METAMORPHOSIS (S1E02) Clark Floating, Bug Boy, Suspending Disbelief & Hidden Messaging
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Tom and Michael address the step back in the second episode of the series Smallville where the ‘freak of the week’ concept gets solidified with our introduction to a buggy individual. The guys reflect on the suspension of disbelief that it took to shoot certain scenes and what it was like shooting the special effect shots that involved kryptonite and bullet time. During this episode, Michael points out scenes that didn’t flow after remembering cut dialogue and Tom looks for answers on the floating that never got addressed.
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02 - Metamorphosis | Clark Floating, Bug Boy, Suspending Disbelief & Hidden Messaging #talkville #smallville #seasonone - Розваги
About Tom’s question at the end, Clark floated several times later on the show, he floated to the caves and woke up right there when Lex entered, once in the middle of the street and in the end dancing with Lois at the Homecoming episode when Bug Guy reappears.
He was referencing that specific convo never being brought up again which always bugged me too.
I would've loved in Rosetta when Clark talked about sleep flying if Johnathan had said "At least last year you didn't leave your room when you were floating above your bed."
Yup the specific scene is never referenced. Clark has jokingly said he is earthbound (when he is no longer controlled by Jor-El) seemingly to show he considers flight not possibly (at least till he meets other Kyptonians who can fly freely like Zod and kara).
@@ryandeffley7652 I took it as Jonathan & Martha were taken back and didn't know how to deal with the floating. So they didn't mention it. That was just my take on it.
@@nicklor24 - I think they could've done a one liner with any of the "anti gravity" moments just for continuity purposes. It's always nice when stuff links up.
It could've been cool with Johnathan/Clark talking in Vortex about the tornado or the scene from Rosetta I mentioned, etc.. Or like in Insurgence when Clark does the super leap of faith from the DP and Johnathan says "This is a big step up from floating above your bed" etc..
If I remember right don't they also address it to some degree in season finale of Season 3? I feel like I remember Kara mentioning something about Jor-El teaching him to be able to fly instead of floating while sleeping.
Hey it's Rosenbaum here. yes. It's really me. Just thanking all of you for listening and watching. We are working out the kinks and trying to make a better show each week. Unfortunately we filmed a chunk of these and on Tom's end... the sound isn't ideal. Bear with us. It will get really good after episode 6. Much love to all and thanks for the continued support. Love, Michael Rosenbaum
This is a lot of fun. You guys are doing great. Another count you might want to consider is which character had the most "cheesy" one liner's on the show referring to other movies or TV shows. For example when Pete says "I heard someone tried to go all "Swimfan" on Lana in S3. Seems to me Lana and Chloe had alot of those. Poor them. lol Thanks again for making these pod casts.
You guys have done a fantastic job. Thank you guys for hosting this podcast!
Lol sure buddy and I am the king of England.
Kinks or no... I'm watching the heck outta this podcast! You guys rock!! Keep it up!!!
I d kiné tout hear subtitles in French because I don’t understand English totally
1:04:23 I will sound like a total weirdo, but a few years ago when I watched through the series again, I actually wrote a list that in every season who was saved by who and how many times, who had died and who had found out Clark's secret and how many of them stayed alive or just forgot the secret. :D To Tom's specific question, Lois is the winner, in total she was saved 58 times, though not only by Clark. On 2nd place, it's Clark himself, he was saved 54 times. 3rd place is for Chloe with 48 times, then Lana with 41 and finally Lex with 35. These are the top 5. :D As to how many people Clark saved, the cheap answer is that he saved the whole world like 5 times. :D I didn't write down what exactly happened, so I only remember the finale of the series, but I guess everybody knows about that.
love that this exists
All these savings let's see if they end up with the same numbers at the end of the podcast ;)! But Tom's question wasn't how many times each characters were saved on the show, it was who Clark saved the most.
@@vbrandy7088 I got really curious and looked up some stats and crunched the numbers and Lois still wins with about 44. Chloe 34, Lana 32, and Lex 30 times. I say "about" because I included characters' possessions and partial/attempted saves such as when Clark stopped Lois from suffering "cosmetic acupuncture" in Facade but then needed to be saved by Lois because of kryptonite.
The record of saves : was that deliberately written in thr writing? Nifty
This episode was fairly significant in the long term. “Bug boy” returns in the final season at the Smallville High reunion (“Homecoming”) and tells Lois how impactful Clark was to his life, ultimately in a positive way. It’s one of the rare times we see a ‘freak of the week’ return, and he doesn’t even want a round 2 fight situation.
Ahh right I knew it was either him or the electric boy from the pilot that came back, thanks.
Mannnnn that episode homecoming was great. A nice reflection episode of the entire series. Plus Brainiac 5
Wow, I'm so impressed you remembered this! I literally got finished with the series this year, and I forgot about that!
Was just about to say the same thing. I loved that episode because he was questioning every decision and doubting himself in that season, and that episode was more of showing how big of an impact he has had in the past and the impact he makes in the future.
Aha - Tom was right! Bug Boy wasn't dead after all!
I'm so glad that Tom owes Mike enough money that we get 269 more episodes of this
Why does Tom Welling owe Michael Rosenbaum money?
@@stoic_1394 I don't know, I just remember in the first episode that's what he said, that he owes Michael a considerable amount of money, and Michael asked Tom, instead of paying him back the money, do the podcast rewatching Smallville and help him earn it.
@@christopherlee8989 Yeah I saw that too in the first episode, I thought he was joking lol. But you won't hear me complaining if it's true, because it brought us this amazing podcast
@@stoic_1394 same man. I'm happy they agreed to do this
@@stoic_1394 Tom owes Mike money for the Porsche Tom ruined when he hit Mike driving on the bridge.
I think most of Lex's creep vibes comes from his upbringing. The way he interacts with people is like he's trying to make a bussiness deal. Plus his loneliness that's makes him desperate to befriend
That’s a great theory
Tom is 100% right about the show earning the special effects. We all wanted to see Clark do cool shit, but they never just handed it to us, it always came as part of the story and it made the payoff way more satisfying as a viewer
well said bud
The superspeed effects on smallville are better then on Flash..
@@TalkVillePodcast a reply from talkville?! You just made my day, can’t wait to see next week already!
@@tabxtra7057 shameful isn't it, as time goes on it's supposed to get better not worse
@@ninjanibba4259 FACTS
I've been saying a similar subject about the 2008-2012 early movies on the Marvel Cinematic Universe vs the Marvel Cinematic Universe/Disney plus shows we have now. Hell even Love and Thunder vfx sucks so bad that even the director came out and admitted that his movie sucks
I love the quote from this episode: Lana told Clark “Life is about change, sometimes its painful, sometimes its beautiful but most of the time its both” Smalllville had so many gems like this throughout.
100%. I was going through something hard with a girl 3 years ago when I first heard Lana say that and it gave me some perspective about life 👌
"As much as some things change, some things always remain the same" - Pete
Smallville scenarists did an AMAZING job in terms of dialogues and ligns 👌
Every season, you get inspiring quotes and life lesson as well as some witty humor in it.
Smallville had so many amazing quotes over the years. Two of my favorites come from Season 7.
"In textbook talk, Isis is the goddess of love, and life, and healing. She even marched to the ends of the earth to help jump-start the man she loved. What the textbook left out is that Isis is also the Goddess of the underworld. She's responsible for bringing the Great God Ra (the man she loved) to his knees."- Chloe Sullivan-Smallville (Season 7, Episode 7: Wrath)
"My father often reminded me that despite the power of the sun, it's always night on half the planet. For all the good you do, there will always be darkness. People who would kill you or abuse your power for their own gain."- Patricia Swann-Smallville (Season 7, Episode 14:Traveler)
Those quotes made such an impact on my life that I still have them saved to this day.
I swear she didn’t say that until the episode where Nell was moving to Metropolis and Lana moved in with Chloe.
I feel that this episode established the theme of the series, Clark has a heroic complexity thanks to his upbringing by The Kents, Lex is suspicious by nature but his intention are genuinely pure in his friendship to Clark. The whole Scooby-Doo mystery with Pete, Clark and Chole figuring out the plot of Greg abilities as a result of exposure to kryptonite laced bugs was very much establishing Clark’s interest in Investigative reporting a nod to his future career as reporter for the Daily planet.
well said, this kick starts a lot
I love how Rosey’s save count doesn’t include Clark’s first save; Lex.
Yes!
Came here to say this!! I would also say that baby Clark saved Martha and Jonathan from the car.
Right??? Isaid that to myself each time they rehashed the saves
@@maireadsbookshelvesYeah but it’s not written that way in the show until a later episode, in the pilot the Kent’s just wake up in a flipped over truck and see baby clark out the window, the next shit just shows them holding him with no indication of any saving.
Michael is so unfiltered, it's amazing. So happy you two are doing this! Always loved Smallville growing up.
It's like looking in the mirror for me I have Tom's demeanor but Rosenbaums witty humor not to sound like I'm braging but I'm funnier and it makes this watching this so much better ❤❤
198 episodes from now Michael will be surprised to find out that “Bug Boy” did in fact survive.
I just want to say to Tom:
The babbling is precicely why I'm here. I can absolutely listen to 15 min of conversation about the episode itself, and 45 of you and Rosie shooting the breeze about "life on set".
It was barely mentioned but the scenes showing off Clark's super speed were well done showing how a "speedster" reacts or time slows down. Especially in the later season how it kind of has those waves emanating from him to visually show you that he has sped up. One of the best visual effects that represent speed to date imo.
Still the best representation of super speed. Some modern movies could learn something from Smallville.
I love when Tom babbles. I can listen to his stories all day.
Wow, you’ve been on UA-cam a long time.
@@shawn2587 pretty much since it started lol
So have you.@@shawn2587
Wouldn't it be funny if after Lex closes the box, he's like "wait a second" opens it again and closes it like 5 times, watching Clark's reaction.
It'd be so funny🤣🤣
@@noemimondini5050 yep
"omg you're allergic!" what he'd say
😂😂
ahahahahahahaha and Clark's just like STOP IT
"Sometimes you're the windshield, Sometimes you're the bug!" Is a really good line. One of my favorites in the show
agreed, great line
Tom is a lot more thoughtful about this stuff than I would’ve expected
One of the interesting character traits in the comics for Lex is that he IS smart enough to figure out that Clark is Superman, BUUUT he refuses to believe that someone with all that power would want to live as a normal person and not use this power. It's a testament to Lex's lust for Power
Unlike others, I really enjoyed the set-up of the "freak of the week." It was interesting learning all of the different ways the meteor shower/kryptonite affected people. And it also gave Clark 'practice' saving people/fighting bad guys. What this episode really started too was the odd fascination literally every character ends up having with Lana. Poor thing. lol
I discovered Lifehouse because of Smallville and they are my favorite band to this day. I know all of their songs and they inspire me so much! Smallville soundtrack was always amazing!
Agree
I am absolutely loving this. Smallville is one of my all-time favorite shows ever. I binge watched the first few seasons with my wife (while she was pregnant) to get catch her up. My oldest son and I are planning to sit down and binge watch the series as well.
love seeing stuff like this. thanks Jason
@@TalkVillePodcast Michael, you are very welcome sir. We need to get Tom's setup at his house fixed though....his mic sounds funky.
😂 Michael scolding Tom for leaving a voicemail question when he himself left one asking about taking his shirt off lol
I know I'm very, very late on commenting, but one thing I love about Lex is that his character had this really great ambiguity when it came to his true motives. I always believed that he only wanted the best for Clark, his family and Lana but it would have been easy to think the opposite.
I always thought he just wanted to be enough for someone and he tried to prove to Clark that he could be trusted and Clark could just never take the leap to trust him
“You were tied to a stake in the middle of a field. Even the Romans saved that for special occasions.“
That was it for me. Don’t ask why, but I absolutely fell in love with Lex at that line.
Also, about bug boy’s death! He comes back in the finale, raving about how Clark inspired him to be a better person back when they were in high school. By, um, crushing him under a slab? I guess it was a very inspiring slab.
Greg did that to himself if you watch that scene again. Also, Clark warned him earlier that he was becoming a slave to his instincts, but Greg didn't listen at the time.
Not the finale! He comes back in "Homecoming", the 200th episode. Yeah, he definitely didn't die in Metamorphosis. :)
I rewatched that line like 10 times. Lol
I love that you both don't think you are watching yourself. Michael questioning if Lex is creepy with Lana 😂
I loved that scene with Clark Kent being scared about the abilities he is having and the floating was a nice one because fathers are supposed to know the answers and you can tell he badly wants to help his son and doesn't know what to say. It is very much Clark Kent going through growing pains, puberty with powers. I feel they should've explored Jonathan and Martha helping Clark navigate with his abilities but I feel everytime he had a "Freak of the week" to deal with it.
The show really did a great job in showcasing how instrumental both Jonathan and Martha were pivotal in helping Clark adjust to his emerging powers and how supportive they were in guiding him to use them responsibly. As a result Clark took it upon himself to help those in need whenever the opportunity presented itself which often came through a confrontation with the freek of the week villain or Saving people in Smallville to eventually the world ultimately.
This is so awesome thanks dudes all seasons please bring Kristin in too For a spot or two I’ve always found your connection with her in interviews genuine and like old friends
That's the plan!
I can't get over how Lex immediately became Clark's hype man by telling Clark to bring Lana her necklace. Talk about best friend of the year award
If they're doing a save count they should do a count of how many times characters get knocked unconscious, in Particular Lex, he's definitely knocked out dozens of times over the whole series. No concern for CTE at any stage haha
Mike and Tom joked about that actually
Oh my gosh yes. I always joked with my brother that everyone in Smallville was made of glass. People get knocked out so easily. A lot of people in Smallville have irreversible brain damage.
I think Lana has the highest.
@The Chunky Badger yesss. The irreversible brain damage! You can only have so many concussions 😂
i did hear what the number was but i can't remember i want to say 17 but i also want to guess 24 but there is a numbe
Greg “bug boy” shows up again in season 10 in the Homecoming episode which is one of my favorite episodes of the whole series!
The Homecoming episode also addresses Clark’s flight again. Him shedding the weight of the past and having the support and love from Lois gets him to float/fly at the end of the episode when they are dancing. Which it seems he doesn’t even realize he is is doing it.
Yes I loved that call back all the way to episode 2 and getting the same actor too!
Good memory! I thought Bug Boy didn’t die either. I agree this is also my one of my fav episode! It had the best song and it was a callback to Clark’s past. I CANT wait until we get that far!
He even mentions the positive impact that Clark had on him and apparently helped him change his life around which was a bit of twist
Definitely my favorite episode so awesome
Yes I agree. I remember Clark saying something to the affect of “let’s not worry about anything else right now, let’s just live in the moment” and they start the slow dancing and that’s when he is able to float
When I saw "Hot Head" I didn't realize that you got Dan Lauria from Wonder Years playing the unhinged Football coach. That was awesome. The guest stars always helped the show elevate.
crazy right!
@@TalkVillePodcast It surely was. I remember him also guest starring on Boy Meets World which is another show I enjoyed during the 90's.
Y’all need to have Kristen on the show it would be amazing
They're having her back for the pool episode 🤞
@@relaxntakecare3438 really?
@@Lily-ul4dj no clue lol sorry
she was on michael's podcast, so I'm sure they'll get her on this also.
@@relaxntakecare3438 hahaha sound good to me..
Something I wanted to point out is Tom's question at the end of the podcast, my siblings and I are big Smallville fans and he recalled later in the show the other times that Clark floated/flew; later on in the show when Jensen Ackle's character comes in (SE4); Clark becomes possessed by his Kryptonian persona and flies in the show. I think it's the first episode. Anyway, when Ma Kent gets Clark back, Pa Kent asks later in that episode, concerned, "Your mother tells me you can fly?" and Clark responds with "Kal-El can fly, Clark Kent is still earthbound". I think they get a little relieved at that but I believe Pa Kent mentions that its an ability he can probably do too with practice like his other abilities, but Clark states it's harder for some reason. I think in the show he mentions that he actually has a fear of heights. So, Clark had psychological barriers that prevented him from flying on his own. I hope this helps Tom out.
4:30 major props to Rosey for crediting everyone involved in the episode and giving a synopsis before you got started! I rewatched it before the podcast, but that's still so helpful, and I'm sure the creators, director, guest stars, etc., would be so happy to hear you reference them!
Smallville always had the best shots. The music, the lightening, everything was so well thought out. Very few shows can hold up 20 + years later. Maybe I'm bias, but I still think everything looks great. No superhero show has come close to what you guys made!
This show is so 2000s and I love every minute of it. When they play wherever you will go by the calling it was this beautiful mix of ironically enjoying the song while also very honestly feeling the moment. God I love smallville
well said :)
Truth spoken 👍✨🤍
I think Clark always could fly, because he was Kryptonian, but due to limitations he conscientiously put on himself, he stayed "grounded"; however, subconsciously when he was in the unconscious state of sleep, those limitations were suppressed and therefore he was able to float. I think what is interesting for the first four seasons, basically, Clark doesn't want these powers, he just wants to be normal. This is interesting take of Superman, because Wellings presents a Superman that wants to be "normal". He wants to marry Lana, run the farm, and just be a normal person like his Dad. These are his "dreams", not having this greater destiny imposed upon him by a "father" he never knew, and who very well could have abandoned him. However in contrast, in Season 4's opener, where he is just "Kal-El" and his Clark persona of his psyche is suppressed, he is able to fly and use all of his abilities.
His leaping ability is also linked to this psychological limitation. The more he embraces his role as a hero, and suppresses his own wants, the better he gets at leaping. I believe this is why the first time we see him perform a super leap was when he went to Metropolis and jumped off the Daily Planet, because in part he was psychologically embracing this idea of needing to let go of Smallville and help the "world". Season 6 displayed one of his best leap/flies to date because being on Red K, and not repressing his feelings/attractions for Lois, allowed him to leap/fly with her across almost all of Metropolis. Then in season 8, when he becomes the Blur, we see Clark mastering the ability to jump vertically/leap buildings in a single bound. The specific scene was when Doomsday was attacking the night club. As stated throughout the show, Doomsday's presence and him embracing his role as the world's destroyer, would externally force Clark to embrace his roll as the world's savior, because he wouldn't be able to sit idely by (hence him vigorously that season chasing down after this "serial killer"). In season 9 when Jor-EL was walking him through flying simulations off the statue of liberty, Clark is not able to focus because he thinking about Lois and in his mind at that moment /season he put the limitation on himself I am either going to have a future with Lois as Clark Kent OR I am going to be this Savior called the Blur, in his head/heart at the time, he didn't see where the two would co-exist. But as is shown throughout, its actually romantically falling in love with Lois and trusting her and the confidence that she brings him in him accepting to himself, that the more he is around Lois, his Kryptonian powers strengthen. Her direct quote in season 10 is this, "Don't listen to it, Clark. Just trust yourself. You did it for me your secret. You trusted yourself, and you were right. The only way to see the truth is to close your eyes and ears and take a leap of faith. I believe in you." Her belief in him bolsters his confidence in himself, and he is able to fly with her (as paralleled in season 6). In the background the Daily Planet is focused upon because in key major scenes where Clark in this show has demonstrated flight, the Daily Planet has been present, which in this show is a image/theme that is representative of Clark's "future" where he has embraced his role on earth as a Hero. Before that shot ends, we see Clark look into Lois's eyes, it is acknowledgment that season 9's Clark didn't realize, that he can have BOTH, be the hero and have a life with Lois at his side. After this realization hits him, Clark is then seen, much like the final shot in Pattinson's, "Batman", with Clark "looking up" into the sky's of Metropolis. Then in the season finale, when fighting Darksied, it is Jor-El who says to him, "You have always had the power within you. Seize your destiny".
I'm currently re-watching all episodes, and I'm on Season 8. As an adult now in my 40's, I have a greater appreciation for the character arcs and journeys taken by many on the show. I'm so glad that we have this masterpiece of a show to look back on and share with younger generations! This is definitely one of the greatest series of all time, and I thank you all for the sacrifice and dedication you gave to bring this brilliance to our lives! ❤❤
32:50 - THANK YOU, Rosey, for defending Tom on that point! I cannot imagine how consuming the show was for both of you, but especially him as the main star. And in the first podcast episode you mentioned the physical suffering you had to go through as well. I was so sad that I never saw him go on to do more acting, but after that, I'm sure I would've wanted out, too!
I have to say the visual effects especially for Clark's super speed scenes was really well done. You could see Tom really doing the stunts. With something like The Flash you can see when Barry turns into a CGI puppet and it just doesn't have the same impact a lot of the times.
I never made the connection the "zits" were "bug bites". Great observation, Ms. Welling!
right!?!
Same. Always assumed he was just a nerd with bad acne.
They might have had a bug incident where the bites are explained but as is the case with most shows in the sci-fi genere, it got cut for time and might not have even made it to filming.
I like how they brought the bug guy back for the 200th episode, and he's there to thank Clark for helping him!
Spoiler*
I love how deep you guys went into the aspect of Tom actually giving 10 years of his life and just how you guys took the time to reflect on this very important aspect. That's why i Love this podcast. It goes way behind "behind the scenes". This is raw and real. Love it. Thank you Michael & Tom. Greetings from ARUBA
The more time passes the more I appreciate how special Smallville is.
Got to love the use of Papa Roach on a bug episode. Smallville always had an amazing soundtrack over the ten years. It was great revisiting this episode.
great subtleties.
Watch the episode last night. I loved the loft being referred to as his "Fortress of Solitude" goes along with Lana's "are you man or superman" from Episode 1
I also wonder if it was a callback to The Lois & Clark Series because Clark had a tree house named that in the show. Its on HBO Max if you want to see it
@@TCT92Graphics The Fortress of Solitude started with the comics.
One of the better commentaries I've heard so far on a podcast rewatch show. I was worried that Tom would be more shy about the behind the scenes stories but it turns out his detailed expositions, insights and description of production behind the scenes and acting were completely exciting and just fun to hear. Thank you Tom! You're quite the person and seem very comfortable with Michael in your insights. Michael you just hit it out of the park with this podcast too! Thank you to you and Ryan! Bravo gentlemen!
I can't say enough of Tom and Michael. I spent a lot of time rewatching Smallville when I was younger. I can't believe it has been 20 years. The 2000's had some really great shows, sports, films, and music. And if I am being on honest I would have never heard of Jensen Ackles and Supernatural if it wasn't for watching Smallville because that was the only WB show I watched at the time.
"WHO'S GONNA TAKE CARE OF MY BUGS?????" My husband and I died laughing. Who can take that line seriously? The funniest line in the show. 😂😂😂
The Calling “Wherever You Will Go” playing at the end when Clark returns the necklace was such a great scene.
The music of Smallville brings back all my emotions from that time. I was 18 when the show debuted.
@@emiddleb2 It’s great to hear someone else feel this way.
A shame they only released 2 soundtracks
The music on this show is amazing. I built my own soundtrack on Amazon music as I worked my way through all the series!
@@ThatOneDude219 ooh, I wonder if anyone on Spotify has made an unofficial playlist???
It's a shame you guys never touched on the ending of the episode. It's one of the most romantic endings in television or Cinema history in my opinion. Instead of outing out Whitney and returning the necklace to Lana in order to win her heart; Clark takes the road less travelled. He takes the road of the hero and returns her property anonymously. This seemingly, simple act of selflessness does more to put Clark on the path of becoming Superman then battling the main freak of the week. This is why Metamorphosis is one of my favorite episodes in the entire run of the series. It shows the difference between being a hero and being the average Joe. The hero will make the choice that no one else can or will.
Wherever You Will Go is on my playlist cuz of this episode, I think of the ending scene everytime I listen to it
I agree with the both of you Shakeem and Ninja 👍✨🤍
Great comment!🙂i totally agree! It really showed raw " stripped of powers" Clark. He can do whatever he wants, and still choose to be selfless. He actually had every right to be upset with Whitney, and he decided to step aside and let Whitney to shine. That' s what i like, and i'm sure many fans like about Clark. That's so rare in real life ( almost non existent) and actually reminds us how flawed we are, sadly.
@@misoboskovic Indeed
Yes!!!!!
I'm gonna come to the defense of the special effects on Smallville here. They were absolutely great for its time, but also in some ways they do things better, like, they used real fire and real explosions. It's all CGI these days and it completely takes you out of it.
Honestly, Rosenbaum being nervous in the beginning worked perfectly with the story. The more evil Lex got, the more swagger he had.
I can't believe it! After this episode, I want to re-watch the first season again. My favorite scene is when Lana says, 'Did you realize you could see my house from here?' and Clark quickly moves the telescope. 😂😂😂
I am so glad this is happening, I started re watching the whole series with my wife about a month ago. We are currently on S5E19, she really likes it, I am so glad to be able to re watch it, and hear you guys comment on the episodes. Keep it up! Good job!! May Talk Ville reach millions of fans around the world. Greetings from Ecuador, South America.
I've got a suggestion, how about starting a discord channel for people to join and talk Smallville. You could also make a channel for upcoming episode questions. Thank you so much for doing this podcast by the way! This was by far my favorite show growing up. This show helped me get through high school. Also, tom and rosey not being cast for a live action movie is so sad. Definitely would have loved to have seen it. Hopefully the animated show gets picked up. Again, thanks for doing this!
Thank you guys.... Yesterday I was laid off after 3 years and a father of 2. This hit me hard, but watching this podcast and having memories watching Smallville helped me get thru my horrible day. Thank you helping my spirits.
I'm wishing you all the best with finding a new job. 🙏
@@TMSokoya thank you fam
I recently caught a few minutes of one of my favorite early-season Smallville episodes, the one where Lex is split into Evil Lex and Good Lex, and Evil Lex utters the line, "You were right all along, Mr. Kent. I am the villain of the story."
We call them Practical Effects or CGI. We don't say Special Effects. We're not that old!
This is great! I love seeing you guys together again talking about Smallville. It's been one of my favorite shows for a long time! I watched it when it first aired on TV, and have watched through the DVDs a few time. Would love to see Kristin, Sam, John Glover, or Annette on the show! Thanks guys. Keep it up!
thanks Ryan
Don’t forget Clark saved Lex in the first episode, and Greg came back for Homecoming
Just a thought: to make the roses and bombs ranking system unique to talk ville , you could change to items to capes and kryptonite. Keep up the spectacular work :)
The natural chemistry between Tom and Rosenbaum made their onscreen character friendship make total sense. Side note: Are you guys using Zoom? You can turn off the noise filters so the sound comes through better.
Another great episode !
Love the show! Could Tom record his audio locally and send the file to Ryan to mix in before uploading? Keep up the great work!
Yup. Toms audio makes it really hard to listen.
There other ways.. like stream yard or something
But yes that's my only comment so at least both of them have the same audio quality since tom have a nice set up..🙌
yup fixing moving forward sorry folks
@@TalkVillePodcast thanks for the quick confirmation.
@@TalkVillePodcast no worries we completely understand guys.... :)
Just love the podcast! Guys, you do a great job!
One reminder, the bug boy didn't really die, we saw his comeback in the season finale, episode „Homecoming”.
So, minus one in the died list.
true
But you can add one back in for bug boy's poor old mum 😂
We all want this pod to be huge!! I really think you gotta get Tom some proper sound mixing if you’re going to be doing it from different locations a lot of the time. It’s funny that he has equipment but it still sounds like a zoom call 😅 love you guys and will be here for every episode!!
yup had an issue in this one, fixing moving forward
@@TalkVillePodcast you guys are the best!! It’s only so clear because of Roseys silky smooth radio voice! Seriously you need to do books on tape or calming videos with those pipes!
@@JDSharar13 Rosey has an amazing voice for reading everything, I agree!!
@@TalkVillePodcast did tom not press record?
@@JDSharar13 Or have Michael read books with Lex's voice! I would LOVE that. He did so much exposition about history on Smallville, it would be like an extention of that!
CGI 20 years ago on Smallville was waaaay better than any of this cw rubbery shit
Just discovered this podcast, absolutely love everything about this. I could listen to you both just ramble on about your experiences for hours (and I plan to through this podcast) but please don't ever think that your just rambling on and its too much. I love the rambling because it feels like listening to old friends just have a real conversation. Please keep this up for the entire run of the show!
I hope I'm not the only one, but I'm so glad that Ryan is getting to participate more in the podcast. I'm happy to see he's doing good (I've been a Warp Zone fan for years now)
love that :)
Yep I enjoy this aspect of it too. He cracks me up because he'll have the occasional zinger or moment of insight out of nowhere. Being a "fly on the wall" fits the Metamorphosis theme. LOL
**His Papa Roach catch was awesome and it always cracked me up they put a song from the group in a bug episode. 😁
@@ryandeffley7652 Yeah bug boy even had the Papa Roach poster in his room haha
@17:48 what Tom says about Kristin is so sweet. It probably started when she was a teenager and she quickly learned how to reject them with kindness.
The kryptonite in the blood is shielded by their natural iron in the blood. Thus doesn’t effect Clark. At least that would be my theory.
I’m rewatching the show right now and every time Clark showed up to save someone, nobody questioned how he got there so fast without a car 😂
Lol right
It’s like every time he disappears either Cloe Pete or Lana they just look around and say Clark
Funny how they just look confused 😂😂
I think Lex had an inkling in the pilot when he pulls Clark off the scarecrow sticks, that there is something to this necklace. Clark takes off as if he was okay, then Lex picked up the necklace. I think in episode 2, Lex was looking for some confirmation and received it during the Trojan horse scene. The idea that this is Lana's favorite object, starts to show that even though Clark is in love with Lana, he cannot have her, or be close to her, because of it. A nice parallel for being hurt by the ones you love, or perhaps, simpler, the forbidden fruit analogy.
Or… that they’re not meant/destined to be together
So happy this podcast is a thing, this show meant so much to me as a teen and still does. Thank you!
thank you for returning :)
Clark's appearances displaying the ability of Flight (floating, Super leaping)
Season 1: Metamorphosis
Season 2: Vortex, Rosseta, Insurgence : Clark's first Super leaping
Season 3: Covenant
Season 4: Crusade: Kal-El took to the skys, Lucy
Season 5: Hidden, Reckoning
Season 6: Crimson, Phantom- (Bizarro flew out of Reeves Damn)
Season 7: Bizarro flew in all his appearances
Season 8: Prey, Hex, Doomsday
Season 9: Savior, Warrior, Charade, Salvation
Season 10: Lazarus, Supergirl, Homecoming, Collateral and Finale part 2
niiiice
24:45 yo imagine being in a hotel restaurant, the Remy zero song starts playing, and THEN Tom welling walks in lolololol
THIS MAKES ME SO HAPPY!! omg nostalgia! this is so cool you guys are doing this!! i grew up watching this show and it will always be my all time favorite show!! you were my heros as a kid!!
Loving this, keep up the great work. Also Tom is correct “bug boy” returns at the high school reunion in a later season.
yup he knew it
Clark DOES acknowledge feeling like he might be able to fly in another episode. It was the Season 2 premiere, he's talking to Jonathan about saving Lana when they both got picked up by the tornado. He said something to the effect of "being able to control where we wanted to go while in the air". After that though, I don't believe it's ever brought up again. We do see Clark flying in a later season (6, I want to say) but for storyline reasons it's not actually "Clark Kent" doing the flying.
Yeah, it's when he's "inhabited" by Kal-El. I think it had something to do with the caves and some stone.
@@grayden4138 I didn't want to get into major spoilers for those watching along for the first time.
just fyi it was the first ep of season 4. You're right about who it is that is actually flying though.
So, the bug guy is not dead! He actually makes an appearance towards the ending of the show. Tells Lois to thank Clark at a high school reunion that he saved his life and turned things around for him!
It’s one of my favourite scenes, because it drives home that Clark is all about helping people rather than punishing them (like say, Batman).
Yeah that was a really beautiful moment
SPOILERS!
Yeah that moment made no sense. How, when, and why did Clark - who led Greg to his “death” - saved him?
How is the bug guy still around? They never explain that.
@@jasonnguyen2575 He “saved” him by not letting him kill further people I took it
I don’t believe they ever addressed Clark floating again but throughout the series Clark’s ability to fly was gradually worked up to. I believe that scene in Metamorphosis was more for Easter Egg.
I’m just reminded about how much Kara (the real one in S7) tries to get him to fly.
😂 I use to keep a count of how many times Clark saved Lex, Lana, Pete… etc.. How many times characters were hospitalized. How many times Lex was shot..
SOMEBODY SAVEEEE MEEEE Was our alarm clock ⏰ for YEARS‼️ And now Thanks to Talkville we have it back AGAIN ‼️ I Love You Guys 😘🥰✨🤍
what a wake up
Sam Jones III lasted for first 3 seasons and came back for one episode in season 7. Eric Johnson lasted for one season and then came back as a special guest star in season 2 and the flashback for season 4.
Yessss I’m so excited for this, I grew up obsessed with the show. Lex Luther was my gay awakening
hope you enjoyed
On one hand, I'm sad I didn't hear about this podcast sooner. On the other hand, I have a whole year of episodes to binge as much as I'd like 😃
46:30 Micheal Rosenbaum completely unprompted announcing his sex dream about Kristen Kreuk.
I Loved the DVD commentary's now im getting one for each episode. I can't wait for them to talk about Lex Luther's Security
The podcast great! Only thing I could suggest is for it to be longer, I could listen to you guys talk about this stuff forever lol
haha appreciate it Jake
I want Tom to know that some of my favorite acting from Tom happens in this episode. The emotion on his eyes and face when he sees Whitney taking Lana to the car, the pain in his eyes my heart broke for him, i have felt that myself in life. Congrats Tom!!!
Lol I see what you’re saying but I would do that in a heartbeat I am an actor and I hope to God that happens to me I hope to work get my own show. In out industry it’s all about sacrifices but at least you’ll get to leave a legacy behind you just like you guys did!
Hey Michael Rosenbaum, Ryan, sorry I forgot your last name lol Tom welling!
Smallville is indeed one hell of a series,I enjoyed the show, characters , special effects, cast and above everything else including storyline as well!...I did a comment on your other podcast of inside of you with Michael Rosenbaum!..Thank you and I appreciate you for responding to my comments as well!...😎🍻
Who else would love to see Tom & Michael try their best to recreate a picture of them in character. Tom as Clark. Michael as Lex
YES! I watched the first Talkville episode 5 or 6 times. So excited for this.
Love the podcast man, I actually just started binge watching Smallville this summer for the 1st time & I have to say this has to be the best CW superhero tv show I have ever seen, I’m on season 4 & I can’t wait to see the rest and the animated revival as well!!!!
P.S. My momma watches the show with me as well, & she didn’t watch it when it was airing cos she didn’t know it was a superman prequel tv show 😂, can’t wait to see more of the podcast man keep it up OG!!!! 👍
Clark floats again when he is dancing with Lois after the reunion dance.
I love this, I wasn't much younger than Tom or Michael when Smallville came out and as a big Superman fan I LOVED it! I would binge the box set with my then girlfriend (now wife) - Getting this extra insight on each episode is pretty awesome imo, keep em coming! 😃
The biggest difference between Michael Rosenbaum and Lex Luthor is that Lex Luthor would never forget to include Lex Luthor on Clark's Save List