His vocals are SO damn good man. So many different voices. And Phil's back up vocals harmonize perfectly. They are almost unmistakable from each other at points lol
Although his latest album is stupendous, I still think his singing on this album is the best, or at least one of the best, performances of his life. So good.
They do sound very similar. I remember when I got into Gabriel era Genesis I picked up a trick of the tail and wind and Wuthering I thought it was still Peter Gabriel.
What an incredible memory. You are blessed to have been able to hear them! 'The Musical Box' band is touring the world now with a major portion of 'The Lamb' album as their concert. Peter Gabriel took his kids to hear them, Phil Collins and Steve Hackett sat in and played with them. They are the only band Genesis has officially endorsed! I have seen Genesis only once in 1978 and still have vivid memories of the best concert of my life. Never seen The Musical Box however. I'm stoked.
@@rk41gator I have seen The Musical Box over 20 times. The experience is truly time travel. The band uses the original slides used by Genesis during the Lamb tour of 1974-75 and met with members of that tour's road crew to recreate the stage presentation, costumes and visuals, and TMB recreates the tours with incredible detail and authenticity. Hearing my favorite albums played live in a big concert hall is as good as concerts get these days, unless you were fortunate enough to see Steve Hackett's and Peter Gabriel's recent tours.
@@rk41gator Watching The Musical Box in concert is the closest thing we have available to experiencing the real Genesis from this era. I saw them 4 or 5 years back and this show was fantastic. They played about half _The Lamb,_ a couple of songs from _Selling England, Trespass, Foxtrox_ and even a couple of songs from _Wind & Wuthering._
Listening along today, one thing that really stands out to me is that although Tony's keyboards are very much in evidence, they're not the wall-of-sound that they became in later albums. And this is something I really appreciate. Not only can you hear everything else that's going on, it allows real dynamics and subtlety to exist in all the parts and all the passages.
For me, "The Lamb" stands out as a distinct period of Genesis that was their pinnacle in both song writing and performance... and IMO the heights they reached were never matched again. I had only just discovered the band with "Selling England" when "The Lamb" appeared in my local record store in 1974. By the time I got my copy home and I finished playing the final track of Side 4, this album had totally changed my 15 year-old life. The feels I had back then still resonate. A truly great piece of music and my most beloved record from the Genesis catalogue. So cool watching your reactions to this work of art. Spend the time, go back, read the "story", read the lyrics. Get into The Lamb. Enjoy!
I agree completely. This is one of the few albums that changed my teenager's years. With Tales from Yes, Thick as a Brick from Tull, The Court from King Crimson and Led Zeppelin V. The rest came later in my student years (with Gentle giant, Van Der Graaf, Greenslade…)
Genesis LOVED to be ambiguous in their lyrics and music. I think they loved Peter and Phil sounding similar. They loved Steve and Tony sounding similar. It is aggravating and delicious at the same time. It makes you just give up, sit back, and enjoy the experience. This whole album is a series of symbolic events that illustrate how we can find ourselves by letting go of control.
Peter Gabriel's hands (and voice) are all over this album. He basically wrote 95% of the lyrics and sung everything (with a notable exception in the Raven part.. which will be coming up soon). Phil provided background vocals and harmonies. Gabriel wanted a more urban, and raw sound... and he got it with this album. The difference the previous album, "SELLING ENGLAND" and this one is one of the great left turns in rock. So, so different and they're both so great. (Same with Radiohead's "OK COMPUTER" and "KID A"... both great, as well). Gabriel and Hackett really gave GENESIS a gravitas and adventurous spirit they never recaptured after they left. They still made great music... but, to me, it always lacked a little something special. Great reaction, as always!
Thank you John 😊 I truly appreciate the kind words. Peter completely succeeded in changing the sound from selling England to this more gruff, urban sound as you said. It's such a cool switch up! Because I adore selling England. And this... this is almost better in its own way. I'm not done yet tho, so I can't give any final remarks just yet and be so definitive 😊🤣
@@L33Reacts Yeah... Whenever I'm asked for my Top 20 albums of all-time, I've always got to include a GENESIS album. I often go "SELLING ENGLAND," but I've also sometimes felt "THE LAMB"... Sometimes I'll include both. They are the absolute peak of GENESIS. Cheers!
Really enjoyed this reaction, thanks! All Peter on lead vocal, Phil on backing vocal. The full live show - the entire album was played at every concert throughout their long gruelling tour before Peter left - a great performance was recorded at The Shrine, LA. Seriously worth finding. I actually find it more satisfying than the original album. The 'official' release of it had some vocals re-recorded by Peter many years later which don't sit too well, but it's fabulous nevertheless.
This is their most amazing album ever. So sad Tony felt it fell short. He thought it had to be listened in its entirety to be understood. But cuts the lamb, in the cage, and carpet crawlers, did make singles and were prominent in their live shows.
Great comments. You are helping me appreciate this album ( 1974) much more than I first heard it. There are many beautiful songs even if they are weird in parts. Yes Firth of Fifth is so amazing it also changed my world. You are listening to amazing bands. All those you mentioned are.
I'm pretty certain that the only lines sung just by Phil are from "The Colony of Slippermen" where Phil sings the lines "Now can't you see? Where the Raven Flies, there's jeopardy." Phil may also sing "This is it, Rael" during "Counting Out Time." He does a lot of backing vocals and the similarities are many. Peter's vocals on this album are the best in prog rock!
Yeah I just get them confused probably because I have explored their music in such a weird sense. One era to the next and back. It doesn't help how similar they sound at times LOL
Great that you doing this album again, it is in my all time top 5. You know alltough the musicianship is fantastic, you really listening to the magic off Peter Gabriel. For everybody who doesn't agree with me it is "Just my Opinion". But I have been a Genesis/Gabriel fan since day one, but the overall creativity of PG is from a different planet, right up till today. If you follow his career and music you will fiend out! A highlight in his solo career is Secret World live, watch San Jacinto and you will know were I am talking about. Keep up the great Vids mate, I love em, and like you
Paul thank you so much... the kind words are so acceptable LOL this was a great comment. I'm glad I'm back too... this album seems so special. I can't wait to finish it up!
'My second favourite album ever!!!' you say. Is that Genesis? If not it must be Lark's Tongue in Aspic, King Crimson, judging by the motif that accompanies your post!
Just another brilliant side to this album. Sides 2 and 4 are my fav from this record. Just love all tracks on this side especially the beauty of Hairless Heart. You can see Steve's mark all over this, it was of course written by Hackett and Banks.
The audio quality and production of this album are superior to their earlier efforts (Trespass, Nursery Cryme, Foxtrot). Being the final Genesis album with Gabriel, it's extra special.
So true! This group of incredibly talented individuals who tell stories and build worlds thru music better than anyone.... that's why Genesis is my favorite 🤩
"After their allocated time at Headley Grange came to an end, Genesis relocated to Glaspant Manor in Capel Iwan, Carmarthenshire, Wales to record the album." apparently, the second place was so haunted that everyone could barely get any sleep.
A great analogy about the band firing on all cylinders at this point of the classic five members of Genesis. The progressive rock movement of the seventies was magical..
Genesis really rolled out all their tricks on this album. They are all playing lights out. Phil is bringing all his jazz fusion chops to bear. (check out Brand X) This is has tough lyrics to figure out, but who cares the music is so good. What a symphony.
Peter sings: "as I cuddle the Porcupine, he says 'I have none to blame me" An important line. Rael can't play the victim card. I think the porcupine represents him holding on only to his hate and anger. He must find a way to open his heart to all his emotions, especially love. But Rael does not know how......he must shave his heart and become vulnerable. Prickly concept at this point in his journey.
The uniqueness of the synth is because Banks featured the Arp 2600 synth while guys like Rick and Keith were all in on the Mini Moog. Moog used different filters that gave the Mini Moog it's characteristic "fat" sound.
This is an album that you can really live with......and can't live without. Definitely is at the top of my desert island stack. Genesis makes you FEEL the music. Glad you are trying to clear out your 'system'. Reduce the physical demands so you can concentrate on the internal system. That seems what Rael is doing. He is trying to get ahold of his fears, understand and manage them.
Finding your fears is harder then one might think... our shit is buried DEEP under years and years of mud and lies. Then confronting them?? We have to be goddamn superheroes. But we CAN do it. People tend to fear, fear itself. And the unknown. Because if we can't... conceptually understand something... we just can't. And it fucks with us. Fear is a mother fucker.
Lets do it ! At first I didn't like "Back in NYC" because I found it was too agressive and weird and repetitive but now its one of my favorite song on the album.
Mid 70’s - I really enjoyed your comment about the album cover re: referring to Rael stepping out reflecting back on changes he was making and maybe leaving stuff he doesn’t need behind and moving forward in a healthy way - I see you and I saw your face it was a picture when I see your facial expressions and reactions to music sections that touch my spirit in a similar way such as in the carpet crawlers and Chamber of 32 doors - both songs feel Freudian to me - You gotta get in to get out and all the doors seem like choices with consequences and we are all looking for the right door to unlock - Gabriel’s lyrics are so deep, insightful and aware of the human condition- aren’t they - this is more than music - it is psychoanalysis and Spiritual! This is my view since being 16 yrs old - What a collection of questions faced during growing up and forming an identity - way , way ahead of its time. Yet, eternal !
OMFG! Dude! Back in NYC is such a effin' banger! SOOO heavy (to me anyway). AGH! And that is just the first track on the 2nd side, which, btw, love that you are doing it according the actual album. You rock! And then Carpet Crawlers which is just so angelic....... Oh man this is just such gold. Still. To. This. Day! Also, WAIT until you do the Wind and Wuthering album.... no Peter but incredible music just the same. I hope you do that album next!
A 'hairy heart' cannot feel emotion. It is an old English concept that was used in Harry Potter. A sorcerous magician could take his heart out of his chest and shave it off. Rael needed to do this (symbolically) to get his emotions out and truly felt. (Phil is prominent on 'Counting Out Time') Rael is finding out that emotions are tricky, but you need them to be real!
It's a colorful opera about a character from another culture who is suffering from mental health issues. Peter Gabriel created a lot of universal themes out of this character's plight in and around "Broadway"
An amazing and quite a surprising album at the time which is exactly what fans had come to expect of Genesis on it's release. Shifting the action and narrative to the NYC streets instead of the usual british cultural references was a welcome and timely change. Listen out for Phil on lead vocals on a gorgeous track on side 3
It's songs like "Back in NYC" where Peter really gets to stretch his 'Rael' persona, that I think was his entire motivation for doing this album in the first place. After being so heavily steeped in all things English for the past several albums he saw the future for Genesis as exploring a more urban and American musical direction. Unfortunately the rest of the band (except Phil, perhaps) weren't so keen on the idea. "Counting Out Time" is a throwback to songs like "Harold the Barrel" IMO, sort of musical cartoons that would be revisited in later songs like "Robbery Assault & Battery" or "All in a Mouse's Night". And only Peter Gabriel would convince his staid English bandmates to record a song about a kid going to a drugstore to buy a manual on successful sexual encounters. 😄 Re: the Peter vs. Phil confusion, listen to the louder verses in "Carpet Crawlers" and notice how huskier and thicker Peter's vocal is than Phil's on something like "For Absent Friends". Phil's voice got stronger once he took over lead singing duties, but if anything his voice got clearer and higher whereas Peter's has always had that dusky throatiness.
That s one song i remember, on the right side of the stage he entered a tube and got out the other side full of small balloons different colors ! i m wondering if there s a live show on YT. Carpet Crawlers and the cage are the 2 songs i remember the most ! was in the 70s ! i m getting old, so is my memories ! 😎🤔
The sound of Gabriel’s vocals and of the keyboards “suffered” through the Brian Eno treatments. They refer to it as Enossification on the album’s sleeve. Hackett enjoyed Eno’s contributions but Banks did not.
There is an animated movie to this that is amazing. Search youtube for lamb lies down animated and watch the videos for all 20 songs (it used to be 1 movie, but youtube made him break it up into 20 songs. It is fan made, by a professional artist) it is true to the story and will fill in many blanks you have in the story. It is a must see!
My very first concert after it was released.....It was awesome and Gabriel's voice is UNIQUE....more soulful than Phil, more range, and not thin sounding like Phil...together though with Phil as a backup vocal they were great. This was the most Prog Album they did before & after Peter left and is still a top album IMHO.
It was only during the listening of the sacd version by Nick Davis that I saw the soundstage that stays consistent throughout the album. Tony is on the right and Steve is on the left...with soloing exceptions that become stereoscopic. Mike slightly left of center and drums snug in the middle.
That was Phil using his talking voice saying, "this is it! Rael" just as you mentioned your trouble distinguishing 'tween the two singers. Phil does the motown Ooos at the end.
Thought the song, Thirty four doors. seemed to match your mood. The sound of Carpet Crawlers is angelic. Back in NYC is exposition, Rael's brutal background is related to. Arson. Violence and poverty is his background. His journey continues.
The blocking is ridiculous, time-consuming, and must be aggravating as hell. Most of the artists do not block, but their record labels are guilty. It is so short-sighted. Glad you're back with The Lamb. It seems you are really 'getting it' and appreciating their nuanced grace. Looking forward to side 'c'.
Peter and Phil harmonizing all those years no doubt made it easier for fans to accept Phil taking over. They'd been listening to him all along anyway. Try the Seconds Out version of The Carpet Crawlers. I can't say I like one version more than the other, but Phil's vocals are gorgeous. Love that you jump around a bit. It's all good imo ❤
I'm trying here! There's so much damn material to cover. But, it's so good, that I don't mind in the slightest. I can't wait to hear Phil's take on this! I love both of their vocals for different reasons. But when they are together it's just so so good. I'm glad you're enjoying the journey brie 💜
Phil did not want to be the frontman but became the frontman. His voice changed over the years. What really changed is when Banks started to steer the ship (w/o interferences from PG and later SH). Listen to the differences between And Then They Were Three and Wind and Wuthering. A different world. Also, listen to Voyage of the Acolyte by SH. Your can hear where his heart was. A different world from ATTWT also.
@@L33Reacts No pressure! I know you've got plenty to listen to. And I suppose it wouldn't be a genuine reaction if you snuck off and listened to it now ...
@brie_b yeah I honestly do go blind in to every last video. I know some reactors who don't and it honestly makes my blood boil 🤣🤣 I guess you could script a video like this but... why? That's so much work when you can just... listen to the song?🤣
Rael is on a spiritual, mystical journey. The longest journey you will ever take is the one inside. It's the only revolution that matters. Another great album about this same subject is The Moody Blues "In Search Of The Lost Chord". Find the pearl and win a prize! LOL
@@L33Reacts Side C while it's still fresh. Are you following with the lyrics? Knowing the story and following the lyrics helps immensely when digesting this dense masterpiece.
Peer Gabriel should be knighted, if only for his selfless global humanitarian work, let alone his contributions to music and culture. He has expressed his thoughts about the institution of royalty in the UK, which probably disqualify him, though I doubt he cares at all. Divorcing the daughter of one of the Queen's personal secretaries might also delay that honor. :)
@L33Reacts Peter's solo catalog bears little resemblance to his work with Genesis. His WOMAD album of world music opened a whole new musical horizon for me. Peter's album Passion is the soundtrack from the movie The Last Temptation of Christ and is an incredible world music album.
You should read Peter's short story on the inside cover of the album to help understand the story. Here is my summary to help you understand it.. Rael is a punk kid in a gang in NYC who has lived a hard life. After seeing a Lamb, (an omen of his coming death, Rael dies by getting hit by a truck in the 2nd song, fly on a windshield. (They reference the truck in the first song) He doesn't know he's dead though. The rest of the album is him alternating between remembering memories of his life as it flashes before him, and him trying to escape the pugotory his soul has traveled to. The Pugotory is an exact replica of New York, but underground. In trying to find his way out, he comes to a spiral staircase reaching to the sky. He climbs to the top of it where there is a room with 32 doors. But any door you go out of, leads you right back into the same room. He finally meets lily white lylith, a lamia, that says she will help him get out. A lamia is a seductive snake like creature with 3 heads. He gets a disease from having some fun with the lamia before the lamia dies and he eats her. Then he joins the other infected in the colony of slippery men. Their, he finds that the lamia regenerate and it happens all over again unless you get cured. The cure is to have Dr. Dick cut off your penis and put it in a tube for reattachment later. But a raven steals his tube that he was wearing as a necklace, and drops it into the rapids of a river. He must retrieve it.... Oh, and the supernatural anesthetist is death ( the grim reaper). Going back to his life flashing before him there are the following songs.. Counting out time is him remembering his 1st sexual encounter. The song In The Cage is a mixed up memory of him being in jail in the past and also his soul being trapped now. He asks his brother Jon to get him out but he ignores him. In colony of slipperymen he asks John for help again to retrieve the tube with his penis in it that the Raven took, but again John rejects him. Also, Back in NYC is him remembering his violent past. In the light dies down on Broadway Rael sees a door to the real world, he can go back to his real body and be alive, but just as he sees this way out, he sees John drowning in the river. He has to make a choice. Do I get my life back or save John who has not helped me? He chooses to save John. Then after saving John he realizes all those times John didn't help him it was just Rael not helping himself. So by saving John he saves himself and moves on.
In before the blockade hits I'm going on 3 months clean of energy drinks. It was getting to the point where I could not go to sleep unless I drink one and I can't even understand how that works but my body was so fucked up off that shit. The first week was hard. I can only imagine that's what coming off of heroin or nicotine's like. My headaches were so bad but I had to fight that urge. Congrats on getting yourself clean of all these poisons that the man is constantly trying to sell us.
Proud of you brother... keep on truckin. It's hard. But it's worth it... we need to stick around. But those in power want us dead. So we need to have critical thinking skills so we can tell what is good for us or not....Sadly most people don't have it anymore lol
Get to side 3 SOON! To me, side four falls flat. But side 3 has some of the most original and breathtaking music you will ever hear. There are two kinds of people who listen to music; those who have heard 'The Waiting Room' ... and everyone else. I want to see the look on your face! When I was in college aged 17, the musicians who were on my courses held this album like it was a baby in their arms. They cradled it and looked at it like parents do when they say birth is a miracle. Sides 2 and 3 would be an astonishing album on their own.
youtube channel "My Polished Boots" has a high audio quality live recording 1 hour 49 minutes "Genesis-Empire Theatre Liverpool 19th April 1975 (Incredible)" (goto channel, select Popular tab, it is most viewed for reasons that will be obvious when you listen)
Good luck with the longevity of the review. Thankfully, the commercial money-makers aren't on this side. Just progressive classics. The thing about this record is that Genesis did an album centered around an american--not british, lad, and his inner conflicts about the material world that manifests itself, on vinyl.
Good reaction and analysis! Side 1 and 2 is superb. One of my favorites from teens. Lyrically this is Peter's saga of ending his Genesis relationship, and wondering WTF is next? The Chamber of 32 Doors - what choice will get me out of this funk?
Thank you Jim! I really appreciate it. I have immensely enjoyed both sides so far. I can't wait to hear the rest... this band is so special. All of these amazing musicians together to make such beautiful and complex music.
Hey L33 I recommend, urge and entreat you to experience the whole album with Nathaniel Barlam's masterful animations - playlist here ua-cam.com/video/kr110FM-qrs/v-deo.html - Peter Gabriel's lyrics are very, very dense and you can't be referring to the story of Rael on the sleeve the whole time. I found it profoundly changed how I appreciated this album, and I've known it since its release :-0
Yet another great album cover by Hipgnosis the same team that brought you all those great Led Zeppelin and Pink Floyd and Peter Gabriel solo album covers just to name a few. Oh and Going For the One and Tormato by Yes also.
First of all, it isn't Phil singing, it's Peter. And even if it was Phil singing, it doesn't mean he was playing & singing at the same time; it's a studio recording...things don't have to be recorded all at once. Peter was the lead singer on Genesis' first six studio albums (not to mention Genesis Live), of which this was the sixth. Then he quit & Phil became the lead singer on the subsequent albums. Peter has a deeper, more soulful voice, & it cracks occasionally; Phil has a higher, more "professional-sounding" voice. Phil's harmonies blend well with Peter's lead vocals, because both their voices have that slight "raspiness" to them.
It's funny how early 70s prog had such a bad press for decades. Once punk came along this music was dismissed as a self-indulgent joke. It's really interesting to see young people discover 70s prog and hear it with unbiased ears - and love it the way I loved it when it came out.
At the end of the 70's all the greatest bands started to decline, Yes, Genesis, ELP, VDGG, Gentle Giant. I mean, that's a fact. They were here for more than a decade and young music fans started to see it as stale and uncool.
I am glad I came into this music with an open mind. but i have been listening to modern prog and deathcore-ish prog since I was in middle school. and they are the descendants of this era. They are all sprinkled with this style, just merged with a more modern sense. So, I was a prime target to fall in love with this music. the 70s were the fucking best. from a millennial.
@@Alix777. To my ears, they declined; either sounding tired or morphing into different styles - and as with Genesis becoming enormously more popular. I wonder though if punk hadn't come along, would other early-prog type bands have come along with fresh ideas, and taken the music onwards? Or perhaps there's only so much you can do in this area. I don't know. I do think that this style of music produced a few handfuls of albums of really special music, and because of that, is all the more precious.
@@L33Reacts My feeling is modern prog seems to be more self-consciously interested in technique but is less successful at composition and creating atmospheres. That is of course a huge sweeping statement - my personal reaction to what I've heard - and in no way meant as a criticism, as it's just my old head reacting. I would love to discover modern bands that change my mind!
Coma ecliptic by between the buried and me. Start there. It's a metal concept album opera. And it's insane. The concept and the other realities they visit are so eerie and plausible that it frightened at me first listen as an empath. They were in touch with some higher powers for some of the concepts on this album. Intrinsic reincarnation, baby.
You can hear it! This seems like some of the most... unique and consistent sound and tones I've heard from them. Probably due to the concept album approach. I really dig it
Yeah well when you have to live in a crackhead motel away from your kids and girlfriend with no car and no way to see them like I was at the time of this video.. you have no clue. Stop being a bitch old man 😂
In answer to your question "is that Peter or Phil?" ...Peter on main and backing, Phil doing a load of harmony backing and extras, and prob Mike and Tony when needed. This sounds like the most recent remaster. It has been remixed, with slightly different backing vocals being more pronounced, extra reverb, "embiggened" frequencies. ...and unfortunately...Steves guitar was mixed down in parts...especially Hairless Heart with his underlying deep harmony line that absolutely makes the track! ...I'm not even sure it's there! Tony mixed it down in a fit of autocracy i guess, sour grapes? ...not sure, but that is one of my favourite tracks and i consider thus version ruined somewhat without the extra dimension of Steve's other guitar line. For my money the original recording was great, maybe the first and second cd versions are ok, faithful to the original, just might need a little eq to your taste.
When Pete left, it wasn't a forgone conclusion that Phil would take over as lead vocalist. They auditioned a few vocalist. Frustrated with the applicants, Phil finally said something like, I can do better than any of these blokes. Paraphrasing.
Most of the time on any albums with Gabriel on them, Phil's vocals are relegated to backup vocals. One exception at least, on Selling England... but Gabriel takes lead vocals 99% of the time.
Can someone start a Go Fund Me to develop The Lamb to actually have a Broadway production....and why has this not already happened? Thanks @L33 for your channel, love your reactions, comments and musical choices!😍
Your usually a good listener but there is no comparison between Peters voice and Phil. Peter is one of the greats of the Prog world.It's Peter's voice you are hearing.Good as Phil is he is no Gabriel
Btw it's Peter Gabriel singing on this album!!! This is the last Genesis album he sang on before he left. Amazing album and reaction as always!
His vocals are SO damn good man. So many different voices. And Phil's back up vocals harmonize perfectly. They are almost unmistakable from each other at points lol
Although his latest album is stupendous, I still think his singing on this album is the best, or at least one of the best, performances of his life. So good.
@@L33ReactsTony Stratton Smith, a former manager for Genesis, once said that Phil Collins sounded more like Peter Gabriel than Peter Gabriel did...
They do sound very similar. I remember when I got into Gabriel era Genesis I picked up a trick of the tail and wind and Wuthering I thought it was still Peter Gabriel.
Phil doubles Peter's vocals on much of this.
They played the entire album, top to bottom, in concert,
and followed with the encore, Watcher of the Skies and Musical Box.
I didn't want to leave.
My god. That sounds absolutely amazing. I need it. Haha
What an incredible memory. You are blessed to have been able to hear them!
'The Musical Box' band is touring the world now with a major portion of 'The Lamb' album as their concert. Peter Gabriel took his kids to hear them, Phil Collins and Steve Hackett sat in and played with them. They are the only band Genesis has officially endorsed! I have seen Genesis only once in 1978 and still have vivid memories of the best concert of my life. Never seen The Musical Box however. I'm stoked.
@@rk41gator I have seen The Musical Box over 20 times. The experience is truly time travel. The band uses the original slides used by Genesis during the Lamb tour of 1974-75 and met with members of that tour's road crew to recreate the stage presentation, costumes and visuals, and TMB recreates the tours with incredible detail and authenticity. Hearing my favorite albums played live in a big concert hall is as good as concerts get these days, unless you were fortunate enough to see Steve Hackett's and Peter Gabriel's recent tours.
@@rk41gator Watching The Musical Box in concert is the closest thing we have available to experiencing the real Genesis from this era. I saw them 4 or 5 years back and this show was fantastic. They played about half _The Lamb,_ a couple of songs from _Selling England, Trespass, Foxtrox_ and even a couple of songs from _Wind & Wuthering._
@@mikemicrael5749 Steve's concerts on video are amazing.
This is the most ambitious and greatest Genesis (double) Album.
It's amazing what all five of these could do and accomplish!
supper's ready may be the most ambitious and greatest Genesis song
Listening along today, one thing that really stands out to me is that although Tony's keyboards are very much in evidence, they're not the wall-of-sound that they became in later albums. And this is something I really appreciate. Not only can you hear everything else that's going on, it allows real dynamics and subtlety to exist in all the parts and all the passages.
There's room for the sound to breathe more! I love it! His keyboards were precise and not as "wall of sound"-y
For me, "The Lamb" stands out as a distinct period of Genesis that was their pinnacle in both song writing and performance... and IMO the heights they reached were never matched again. I had only just discovered the band with "Selling England" when "The Lamb" appeared in my local record store in 1974. By the time I got my copy home and I finished playing the final track of Side 4, this album had totally changed my 15 year-old life. The feels I had back then still resonate. A truly great piece of music and my most beloved record from the Genesis catalogue. So cool watching your reactions to this work of art. Spend the time, go back, read the "story", read the lyrics. Get into The Lamb. Enjoy!
I agree completely. This is one of the few albums that changed my teenager's years. With Tales from Yes, Thick as a Brick from Tull, The Court from King Crimson and Led Zeppelin V. The rest came later in my student years (with Gentle giant, Van Der Graaf, Greenslade…)
The best they did ever. The story was what you make it. The music was what they made it.
Love Phil's quiet fast-paced drumming on Carpet Crawlers. It is just so appropriate as the whole thing builds and builds. Mellow, yet not.
It's the pinnacle of their prog era creativity, IMO.
And to think you still have "Supernatural Anesthetist/The Lamia" and "Riding the Scree" to look forward to.
Not to mention The Waiting Room.
Genesis LOVED to be ambiguous in their lyrics and music. I think they loved Peter and Phil sounding similar. They loved Steve and Tony sounding similar. It is aggravating and delicious at the same time. It makes you just give up, sit back, and enjoy the experience. This whole album is a series of symbolic events that illustrate how we can find ourselves by letting go of control.
Goose bumps from Carpet Crawlers every time.
Dude, that shit was amazing... this whole side was great. I love this damn band so much 😩
Peter Gabriel's hands (and voice) are all over this album. He basically wrote 95% of the lyrics and sung everything (with a notable exception in the Raven part.. which will be coming up soon). Phil provided background vocals and harmonies. Gabriel wanted a more urban, and raw sound... and he got it with this album. The difference the previous album, "SELLING ENGLAND" and this one is one of the great left turns in rock. So, so different and they're both so great. (Same with Radiohead's "OK COMPUTER" and "KID A"... both great, as well). Gabriel and Hackett really gave GENESIS a gravitas and adventurous spirit they never recaptured after they left. They still made great music... but, to me, it always lacked a little something special. Great reaction, as always!
Thank you John 😊 I truly appreciate the kind words. Peter completely succeeded in changing the sound from selling England to this more gruff, urban sound as you said. It's such a cool switch up! Because I adore selling England. And this... this is almost better in its own way. I'm not done yet tho, so I can't give any final remarks just yet and be so definitive 😊🤣
@@L33Reacts Yeah... Whenever I'm asked for my Top 20 albums of all-time, I've always got to include a GENESIS album. I often go "SELLING ENGLAND," but I've also sometimes felt "THE LAMB"... Sometimes I'll include both. They are the absolute peak of GENESIS. Cheers!
Really enjoyed this reaction, thanks! All Peter on lead vocal, Phil on backing vocal. The full live show - the entire album was played at every concert throughout their long gruelling tour before Peter left - a great performance was recorded at The Shrine, LA. Seriously worth finding. I actually find it more satisfying than the original album. The 'official' release of it had some vocals re-recorded by Peter many years later which don't sit too well, but it's fabulous nevertheless.
Genesis were very creative and talented, yet never lost sight of the importance of melody.
My first LP.
This is their most amazing album ever. So sad Tony felt it fell short. He thought it had to be listened in its entirety to be understood. But cuts the lamb, in the cage, and carpet crawlers, did make singles and were prominent in their live shows.
Great comments. You are helping me appreciate this album ( 1974) much more than I first heard it. There are many beautiful songs even if they are weird in parts. Yes Firth of Fifth is so amazing it also changed my world. You are listening to amazing bands. All those you mentioned are.
I'm pretty certain that the only lines sung just by Phil are from "The Colony of Slippermen" where Phil sings the lines "Now can't you see? Where the Raven Flies, there's jeopardy." Phil may also sing "This is it, Rael" during "Counting Out Time." He does a lot of backing vocals and the similarities are many. Peter's vocals on this album are the best in prog rock!
Yeah I just get them confused probably because I have explored their music in such a weird sense. One era to the next and back. It doesn't help how similar they sound at times LOL
They often sing the same lines together, ghosting each other for that Genesis 'sound'. Phil seems to come through a bit more on 'Counting Out Time'.
Carpet Crawlers also
The Great Peter Gabriel on lead vocals. This was Gabriel's final album as the lead vocalist, main lyricist, flutist and front man of Genesis.
What a swan song for Peter...
@@L33ReactsPeter had an emergency during recording(his wife miscarried) so Phil sang lead on The Light Lies Down on Broadway, side4.
Great that you doing this album again, it is in my all time top 5. You know alltough the musicianship is fantastic, you really listening to the magic off Peter Gabriel. For everybody who doesn't agree with me it is "Just my Opinion". But I have been a Genesis/Gabriel fan since day one, but the overall creativity of PG is from a different planet, right up till today. If you follow his career and music you will fiend out! A highlight in his solo career is Secret World live, watch San Jacinto and you will know were I am talking about. Keep up the great Vids mate, I love em, and like you
Paul thank you so much... the kind words are so acceptable LOL this was a great comment. I'm glad I'm back too... this album seems so special. I can't wait to finish it up!
Back in NYC was a live solo PG favorite until he stopped doing any Genesis stuff around 1981. The next instrumental is such a sweet contrast ❤
My second favorite album ever!!!
So damn good... I loved both sides so far. Can't wait to hear the rest :)
'My second favourite album ever!!!' you say. Is that Genesis? If not it must be Lark's Tongue in Aspic, King Crimson, judging by the motif that accompanies your post!
@@rogerwebb7501this is my fav Genesis. Larks is my fav KC. 🤟🏼
Just another brilliant side to this album. Sides 2 and 4 are my fav from this record. Just love all tracks on this side especially the beauty of Hairless Heart. You can see Steve's mark all over this, it was of course written by Hackett and Banks.
This side felt like yin and yang. Some of the prettiest and yet somber work from genesis yet. I can't wait to hear the rest.
Hairless Heart is so delicate and beautiful, and barely more than an interlude.
On first listen, Hairless Heart was easily my favorite part of the album. And on 26th listen, it's still easily in the top 3.
The audio quality and production of this album are superior to their earlier efforts (Trespass, Nursery Cryme, Foxtrot). Being the final Genesis album with Gabriel, it's extra special.
So true! This group of incredibly talented individuals who tell stories and build worlds thru music better than anyone.... that's why Genesis is my favorite 🤩
They really are the best at what they do! Especially these few albums they all did together. It's absolutely amazing.
A band of incredible musician impressionists. Musical Monets.
"After their allocated time at Headley Grange came to an end, Genesis relocated to Glaspant Manor in Capel Iwan, Carmarthenshire, Wales to record the album."
apparently, the second place was so haunted that everyone could barely get any sleep.
Idk why my voice is so low in points. The audio wasnt like that before i posted it 😂
My favourite album.
Loved listening to the music while watching your reaction. Makes it like im hearing it for the first time again.
A great analogy about the band firing on all cylinders at this point of the classic five members of Genesis. The progressive rock movement of the seventies was magical..
Genesis really rolled out all their tricks on this album. They are all playing lights out. Phil is bringing all his jazz fusion chops to bear. (check out Brand X) This is has tough lyrics to figure out, but who cares the music is so good. What a symphony.
I always perceived this whole story as an "acid trip".
'32 doors' is so fine. Mike and Phil are on the same page. And then the ending is so perfect. Sublime.
Peter sings: "as I cuddle the Porcupine, he says 'I have none to blame me" An important line. Rael can't play the victim card. I think the porcupine represents him holding on only to his hate and anger. He must find a way to open his heart to all his emotions, especially love. But Rael does not know how......he must shave his heart and become vulnerable.
Prickly concept at this point in his journey.
The uniqueness of the synth is because Banks featured the Arp 2600 synth while guys like Rick and Keith were all in on the Mini Moog. Moog used different filters that gave the Mini Moog it's characteristic "fat" sound.
Side 2 and the going gets tough as the tough gets going.
This is an album that you can really live with......and can't live without. Definitely is at the top of my desert island stack. Genesis makes you FEEL the music. Glad you are trying to clear out your 'system'. Reduce the physical demands so you can concentrate on the internal system. That seems what Rael is doing. He is trying to get ahold of his fears, understand and manage them.
Finding your fears is harder then one might think... our shit is buried DEEP under years and years of mud and lies. Then confronting them?? We have to be goddamn superheroes. But we CAN do it. People tend to fear, fear itself. And the unknown. Because if we can't... conceptually understand something... we just can't. And it fucks with us. Fear is a mother fucker.
@@L33Reacts “And you kill what you fear; And you fear what you don't understand” Genesis (Duke’s Travels 1980)
@@rk41gator geez I was born to listen to this band, huh? Lol
Lets do it ! At first I didn't like "Back in NYC" because I found it was too agressive and weird and repetitive but now its one of my favorite song on the album.
This was a fun one to be sure... I love these guys so much
Dude I love back in NYC so much! I loved it. Loved it. So good lol.
Mid 70’s - I really enjoyed your comment about the album cover re: referring to Rael stepping out reflecting back on changes he was making and maybe leaving stuff he doesn’t need behind and moving forward in a healthy way - I see you and I saw your face it was a picture when I see your facial expressions and reactions to music sections that touch my spirit in a similar way such as in the carpet crawlers and Chamber of 32 doors - both songs feel Freudian to me - You gotta get in to get out and all the doors seem like choices with consequences and we are all looking for the right door to unlock - Gabriel’s lyrics are so deep, insightful and aware of the human condition- aren’t they - this is more than music - it is psychoanalysis and Spiritual! This is my view since being 16 yrs old - What a collection of questions faced during growing up and forming an identity - way , way ahead of its time. Yet, eternal !
Late to this party as I was unwell. Looking forward to this so much ❤
I hope your feeling better bro! Enjoy! This albums feels so special and so unique. I love it and I can't wait to finish hearing it 🙌
@@L33Reacts Chamber of 32 Doors always gets to me. And DID YOU MISTAKE PETE FOR PHIL?????
😂😂😂😂
I sure did. I can't tell their voices apart sometimes when their harmonized but even when it's just Peter I swear it's Phil or the other way around 🤣
OMFG! Dude! Back in NYC is such a effin' banger! SOOO heavy (to me anyway). AGH! And that is just the first track on the 2nd side, which, btw, love that you are doing it according the actual album. You rock! And then Carpet Crawlers which is just so angelic....... Oh man this is just such gold. Still. To. This. Day! Also, WAIT until you do the Wind and Wuthering album.... no Peter but incredible music just the same. I hope you do that album next!
No, you rock! :) I'm glad you enjoyed! And it really is.... that and carpet crawlers were my favorites on this album!
Superb record my desert island disc album Neal UK
A 'hairy heart' cannot feel emotion. It is an old English concept that was used in Harry Potter. A sorcerous magician could take his heart out of his chest and shave it off. Rael needed to do this (symbolically) to get his emotions out and truly felt. (Phil is prominent on 'Counting Out Time') Rael is finding out that emotions are tricky, but you need them to be real!
Man, it's so weird how this album is mirroring my own journey at the moment. I guess like I said, this is important.
I was wondering what that meant, thank you for letting me know!
Great and proffesional reaction man. You have to react to PORTISHEAD live in NY... I recommend you
It's a colorful opera about a character from another culture who is suffering from mental health issues. Peter Gabriel created a lot of universal themes out of this character's plight in and around "Broadway"
There's no doubt.... you have become a better person ... 😅 That's because of listening to this music! Keep it up! 🎧
I appreciate that 🙏 I'll take it haha I've been growing so much... this music Is a salve to apply to the wound that is this modern reality.
An amazing and quite a surprising album at the time which is exactly what fans had come to expect of Genesis on it's release. Shifting the action and narrative to the NYC streets instead of the usual british cultural references was a welcome and timely change. Listen out for Phil on lead vocals on a gorgeous track on side 3
Enosifications is on the liner note for the work Brian Eno did on the album
Chamber of 32 Doors must be my favorite of theirs. And it’s Peter and Phil in harmony ❤
Carpet Crawlers was the ultimate slow dance/make out song 45 years or so ago at university house parties!
That's appropriate since the song is about sperm trying to fertilize an egg so it can get out of the womb.
Ooh nearly forgot Peter the singer Greatest band Genersis ❤ L33 thanks so much 😂
It's songs like "Back in NYC" where Peter really gets to stretch his 'Rael' persona, that I think was his entire motivation for doing this album in the first place. After being so heavily steeped in all things English for the past several albums he saw the future for Genesis as exploring a more urban and American musical direction. Unfortunately the rest of the band (except Phil, perhaps) weren't so keen on the idea. "Counting Out Time" is a throwback to songs like "Harold the Barrel" IMO, sort of musical cartoons that would be revisited in later songs like "Robbery Assault & Battery" or "All in a Mouse's Night". And only Peter Gabriel would convince his staid English bandmates to record a song about a kid going to a drugstore to buy a manual on successful sexual encounters. 😄 Re: the Peter vs. Phil confusion, listen to the louder verses in "Carpet Crawlers" and notice how huskier and thicker Peter's vocal is than Phil's on something like "For Absent Friends". Phil's voice got stronger once he took over lead singing duties, but if anything his voice got clearer and higher whereas Peter's has always had that dusky throatiness.
about Phil's voice, there were 2 eras, before and after Duke ! anyway nice comment !
@@JoFandango That's exactly were I would put the demarcation point, regarding Phil's vocals; before and after _Duke._
Lamia!
For me, it's Steve Hackett and Phil Collins who really shine on this Album. Just listen to Phil, never an empty space...Wow.
That s one song i remember, on the right side of the stage he entered a tube and got out the other side full of small balloons different colors ! i m wondering if there s a live show on YT. Carpet Crawlers and the cage are the 2 songs i remember the most ! was in the 70s ! i m getting old, so is my memories ! 😎🤔
The sound of Gabriel’s vocals and of the keyboards “suffered” through the Brian Eno treatments. They refer to it as Enossification on the album’s sleeve. Hackett enjoyed Eno’s contributions but Banks did not.
Back in N.Y.C was written by Mike Rutherford
There is an animated movie to this that is amazing. Search youtube for lamb lies down animated and watch the videos for all 20 songs (it used to be 1 movie, but youtube made him break it up into 20 songs. It is fan made, by a professional artist) it is true to the story and will fill in many blanks you have in the story. It is a must see!
My very first concert after it was released.....It was awesome and Gabriel's voice is UNIQUE....more soulful than Phil, more range, and not thin sounding like Phil...together though with Phil as a backup vocal they were great. This was the most Prog Album they did before & after Peter left and is still a top album IMHO.
Yeesss you dogonne said it Tony Banks,,,,,,,, err Phil on drums Mike on Bass,,,, ❤ ❤ ❤
It was only during the listening of the sacd version by Nick Davis that I saw the soundstage that stays consistent throughout the album. Tony is on the right and Steve is on the left...with soloing exceptions that become stereoscopic. Mike slightly left of center and drums snug in the middle.
That was Phil using his talking voice saying, "this is it! Rael" just as you mentioned your trouble distinguishing 'tween the two singers. Phil does the motown Ooos at the end.
Yeah sometimes I cannot discern between the two 🤣 but then sometimes I can! It's so weird. Their harmony is so unique.
Thought the song, Thirty four doors. seemed to match your mood. The sound of Carpet Crawlers is angelic. Back in NYC is exposition, Rael's brutal background is related to. Arson. Violence and poverty is his background. His journey continues.
there are plenty of superb bands, but Genesis is on its own out in the stratosphere
The blocking is ridiculous, time-consuming, and must be aggravating as hell. Most of the artists do not block, but their record labels are guilty. It is so short-sighted.
Glad you're back with The Lamb. It seems you are really 'getting it' and appreciating their nuanced grace. Looking forward to side 'c'.
Yeah bro, you have no idea... very annoying. Half my videos aren't even monetized lol. It's all good tho
Peter and Phil harmonizing all those years no doubt made it easier for fans to accept Phil taking over. They'd been listening to him all along anyway. Try the Seconds Out version of The Carpet Crawlers. I can't say I like one version more than the other, but Phil's vocals are gorgeous. Love that you jump around a bit. It's all good imo ❤
I'm trying here! There's so much damn material to cover. But, it's so good, that I don't mind in the slightest. I can't wait to hear Phil's take on this! I love both of their vocals for different reasons. But when they are together it's just so so good. I'm glad you're enjoying the journey brie 💜
Phil did not want to be the frontman but became the frontman. His voice changed over the years. What really changed is when Banks started to steer the ship (w/o interferences from PG and later SH). Listen to the differences between And Then They Were Three and Wind and Wuthering. A different world. Also, listen to Voyage of the Acolyte by SH. Your can hear where his heart was. A different world from ATTWT also.
@@L33Reacts No pressure! I know you've got plenty to listen to. And I suppose it wouldn't be a genuine reaction if you snuck off and listened to it now ...
@brie_b yeah I honestly do go blind in to every last video. I know some reactors who don't and it honestly makes my blood boil 🤣🤣 I guess you could script a video like this but... why? That's so much work when you can just... listen to the song?🤣
Rael is on a spiritual, mystical journey. The longest journey you will ever take is the one inside. It's the only revolution that matters. Another great album about this same subject is The Moody Blues "In Search Of The Lost Chord". Find the pearl and win a prize! LOL
Isn't it strange that I did my first ever video for MB and it was that exact album today then? Strange indeed lol
Hang in there L33
Nice one Lee, sides three and four are even better IMHO ;)
Next week will either be side 3 or another track from nursery cryme. It's up to yall!
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@@L33Reacts Side C while it's still fresh. Are you following with the lyrics? Knowing the story and following the lyrics helps immensely when digesting this dense masterpiece.
I would complete The Lamb then return to Nursery Cryme , but life is good whichever direction you choose. 😍
The cover is very interesting. But there is also the back and gate fold pictures as well. Check them out if you can.
Peer Gabriel should be knighted, if only for his selfless global humanitarian work, let alone his contributions to music and culture. He has expressed his thoughts about the institution of royalty in the UK, which probably disqualify him, though I doubt he cares at all. Divorcing the daughter of one of the Queen's personal secretaries might also delay that honor. :)
Yeah that might set him back from getting knighted 🤣 frickin Peter. I love him so much I can't wait to see the live shows to see him really shine!!
@L33Reacts Peter's solo catalog bears little resemblance to his work with Genesis. His WOMAD album of world music opened a whole new musical horizon for me. Peter's album Passion is the soundtrack from the movie The Last Temptation of Christ and is an incredible world music album.
You should read Peter's short story on the inside cover of the album to help understand the story. Here is my summary to help you understand it.. Rael is a punk kid in a gang in NYC who has lived a hard life.
After seeing a Lamb, (an omen of his coming death, Rael dies by getting hit by a truck in the 2nd song, fly on a windshield. (They reference the truck in the first song) He doesn't know he's dead though.
The rest of the album is him alternating between remembering memories of his life as it flashes before him, and him trying to escape the pugotory his soul has traveled to. The Pugotory is an exact replica of New York, but underground.
In trying to find his way out, he comes to a spiral staircase reaching to the sky. He climbs to the top of it where there is a room with 32 doors. But any door you go out of, leads you right back into the same room. He finally meets lily white lylith, a lamia, that says she will help him get out. A lamia is a seductive snake like creature with 3 heads. He gets a disease from having some fun with the lamia before the lamia dies and he eats her. Then he joins the other infected in the colony of slippery men. Their, he finds that the lamia regenerate and it happens all over again unless you get cured. The cure is to have Dr. Dick cut off your penis and put it in a tube for reattachment later. But a raven steals his tube that he was wearing as a necklace, and drops it into the rapids of a river. He must retrieve it.... Oh, and the supernatural anesthetist is death ( the grim reaper).
Going back to his life flashing before him there are the following songs..
Counting out time is him remembering his 1st sexual encounter. The song In The Cage is a mixed up memory of him being in jail in the past and also his soul being trapped now. He asks his brother Jon to get him out but he ignores him.
In colony of slipperymen he asks John for help again to retrieve the tube with his penis in it that the Raven took, but again John rejects him.
Also, Back in NYC is him remembering his violent past.
In the light dies down on Broadway Rael sees a door to the real world, he can go back to his real body and be alive, but just as he sees this way out, he sees John drowning in the river. He has to make a choice. Do I get my life back or save John who has not helped me?
He chooses to save John. Then after saving John he realizes all those times John didn't help him it was just Rael not helping himself. So by saving John he saves himself and moves on.
In before the blockade hits
I'm going on 3 months clean of energy drinks. It was getting to the point where I could not go to sleep unless I drink one and I can't even understand how that works but my body was so fucked up off that shit.
The first week was hard. I can only imagine that's what coming off of heroin or nicotine's like. My headaches were so bad but I had to fight that urge.
Congrats on getting yourself clean of all these poisons that the man is constantly trying to sell us.
Proud of you brother... keep on truckin. It's hard. But it's worth it... we need to stick around. But those in power want us dead. So we need to have critical thinking skills so we can tell what is good for us or not....Sadly most people don't have it anymore lol
I saw the Musical Box do the whole Lamb concert earlier this year. Closest you’ll see to the real thing!
I bet that was awesome Peter. I would have LOVED to have seen that.
I cried. Seeing them again in June. They kill “Supers Ready “
Get to side 3 SOON! To me, side four falls flat. But side 3 has some of the most original and breathtaking music you will ever hear. There are two kinds of people who listen to music; those who have heard 'The Waiting Room' ... and everyone else. I want to see the look on your face!
When I was in college aged 17, the musicians who were on my courses held this album like it was a baby in their arms. They cradled it and looked at it like parents do when they say birth is a miracle. Sides 2 and 3 would be an astonishing album on their own.
My nickname in high school was Rael. Lol.
Steve on guitar ❤
It's ALL Peter!
youtube channel "My Polished Boots" has a high audio quality live recording 1 hour 49 minutes "Genesis-Empire Theatre Liverpool 19th April 1975 (Incredible)" (goto channel, select Popular tab, it is most viewed for reasons that will be obvious when you listen)
Good luck with the longevity of the review. Thankfully, the commercial money-makers aren't on this side. Just progressive classics.
The thing about this record is that Genesis did an album centered around an american--not british, lad, and his inner conflicts about the material world that manifests itself, on vinyl.
Good reaction and analysis! Side 1 and 2 is superb. One of my favorites from teens. Lyrically this is Peter's saga of ending his Genesis relationship, and wondering WTF is next? The Chamber of 32 Doors - what choice will get me out of this funk?
Thank you Jim! I really appreciate it. I have immensely enjoyed both sides so far. I can't wait to hear the rest... this band is so special. All of these amazing musicians together to make such beautiful and complex music.
Hey L33 I recommend, urge and entreat you to experience the whole album with Nathaniel Barlam's masterful animations - playlist here ua-cam.com/video/kr110FM-qrs/v-deo.html - Peter Gabriel's lyrics are very, very dense and you can't be referring to the story of Rael on the sleeve the whole time. I found it profoundly changed how I appreciated this album, and I've known it since its release :-0
Yet another great album cover by Hipgnosis the same team that brought you all those great Led Zeppelin and Pink Floyd and Peter Gabriel solo album covers just to name a few. Oh and Going For the One and Tormato by Yes also.
Gabriel's last album with Genesis.
First of all, it isn't Phil singing, it's Peter. And even if it was Phil singing, it doesn't mean he was playing & singing at the same time; it's a studio recording...things don't have to be recorded all at once. Peter was the lead singer on Genesis' first six studio albums (not to mention Genesis Live), of which this was the sixth. Then he quit & Phil became the lead singer on the subsequent albums. Peter has a deeper, more soulful voice, & it cracks occasionally; Phil has a higher, more "professional-sounding" voice. Phil's harmonies blend well with Peter's lead vocals, because both their voices have that slight "raspiness" to them.
It's funny how early 70s prog had such a bad press for decades. Once punk came along this music was dismissed as a self-indulgent joke. It's really interesting to see young people discover 70s prog and hear it with unbiased ears - and love it the way I loved it when it came out.
At the end of the 70's all the greatest bands started to decline, Yes, Genesis, ELP, VDGG, Gentle Giant. I mean, that's a fact. They were here for more than a decade and young music fans started to see it as stale and uncool.
I am glad I came into this music with an open mind. but i have been listening to modern prog and deathcore-ish prog since I was in middle school. and they are the descendants of this era. They are all sprinkled with this style, just merged with a more modern sense. So, I was a prime target to fall in love with this music. the 70s were the fucking best. from a millennial.
@@Alix777. To my ears, they declined; either sounding tired or morphing into different styles - and as with Genesis becoming enormously more popular. I wonder though if punk hadn't come along, would other early-prog type bands have come along with fresh ideas, and taken the music onwards? Or perhaps there's only so much you can do in this area. I don't know. I do think that this style of music produced a few handfuls of albums of really special music, and because of that, is all the more precious.
@@L33Reacts My feeling is modern prog seems to be more self-consciously interested in technique but is less successful at composition and creating atmospheres. That is of course a huge sweeping statement - my personal reaction to what I've heard - and in no way meant as a criticism, as it's just my old head reacting. I would love to discover modern bands that change my mind!
Coma ecliptic by between the buried and me. Start there. It's a metal concept album opera. And it's insane. The concept and the other realities they visit are so eerie and plausible that it frightened at me first listen as an empath. They were in touch with some higher powers for some of the concepts on this album. Intrinsic reincarnation, baby.
Lee, the Lamb is Peter's farewell. Those vocals on Back in NYC could only be Peter's. He has a much rougher voice.
You are absolutely right bro! It's just so hard for me to discern between the two sometimes. I'll get there!! Lol. I loved this.
@@L33Reacts I'm a full fledge Genesis nerd. I could probably tell their farts apart. Hopefully, you won't get that far...
@Pcrimson1 *fart noise* snifffffff.... oh yeah that's Phil baby.
the lead vocal is doubled... Its peter and phil, its confusing because it both of them! I am 70, seen em live and been a fan forever!
Phils playing is amazing on this. This was their effort to try different approaches.
You can hear it! This seems like some of the most... unique and consistent sound and tones I've heard from them. Probably due to the concept album approach. I really dig it
have you reacted to supper's ready? maybe their best song with Peter
9:41 Personnel check ❤
I'm gonna have it open on my phone before I start the video from now on lol
@@L33Reacts Watch out for challenges with Drama/Yes!
Then… there’s Phil Collins on drums. So young
Instead of Genesis read Genius !! 😍
A grown person shouldn't have anxiety.
Yeah ok lol
@@L33Reacts I had anxiety one time, I was 8 and it was Christmas eve, I was so anxious I couldn't sleep.
Yeah well when you have to live in a crackhead motel away from your kids and girlfriend with no car and no way to see them like I was at the time of this video.. you have no clue. Stop being a bitch old man 😂
@@L33Reacts You have me mistaken for someone else, everyone has various troubles if you can't deal with them you should find a bridge and use it.
@@L33Reacts By the way I guess it makes you feel tough to insult strangers on YT so good luck with that.
Genesis 😂
I always thought that "Counting Out Time" didn't follow the narrative of the rest of the album.
Worst song on the album for me
I get what your saying. It does seem different.
In answer to your question "is that Peter or Phil?" ...Peter on main and backing, Phil doing a load of harmony backing and extras, and prob Mike and Tony when needed.
This sounds like the most recent remaster.
It has been remixed, with slightly different backing vocals being more pronounced, extra reverb, "embiggened" frequencies.
...and unfortunately...Steves guitar was mixed down in parts...especially Hairless Heart with his underlying deep harmony line that absolutely makes the track! ...I'm not even sure it's there! Tony mixed it down in a fit of autocracy i guess, sour grapes? ...not sure, but that is one of my favourite tracks and i consider thus version ruined somewhat without the extra dimension of Steve's other guitar line.
For my money the original recording was great, maybe the first and second cd versions are ok, faithful to the original, just might need a little eq to your taste.
When Pete left, it wasn't a forgone conclusion that Phil would take over as lead vocalist. They auditioned a few vocalist. Frustrated with the applicants, Phil finally said something like, I can do better than any of these blokes.
Paraphrasing.
Most of the time on any albums with Gabriel on them, Phil's vocals are relegated to backup vocals. One exception at least, on Selling England... but Gabriel takes lead vocals 99% of the time.
Can someone start a Go Fund Me to develop The Lamb to actually have a Broadway production....and why has this not already happened? Thanks @L33 for your channel, love your reactions, comments and musical choices!😍
Your usually a good listener but there is no comparison between Peters voice and Phil. Peter is one of the greats of the Prog world.It's Peter's voice you are hearing.Good as Phil is he is no Gabriel