Drummer reacts to "Supper's Ready" (Live) by Genesis
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- Опубліковано 15 вер 2024
- So my first "Supper's Ready" video a long time ago was pretty shitty... and I was told the live performance was so much better. So, here we are. Let's get this journey through the end of the world started. Are you with me?
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well... this one was a doozy for sure. Peter Gabriel is one of the greatest creative minds and voices of this generation.... Which is insane because there are so many. He brings so much to the table... vocals... instruments... creative writing... lyrics... props and costumes... what else can he do??
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He is in my top 3 all time
i love the version better with phil collins live 1976
@@yvesthivierge5706 Both amazing. I too like Phil's a lot.
@@rogerwebb7501 Lucky you. 15' away! I've seen the Bataclan video but a long time ago. Have to check that out again. I saw The Musical Box perform 'Watcher of the Skies' in Nov. and was stunned by the visuals. I see how very avant-garde Genesis was. Very effective. I don't know how they did it. Primitive by today's standard, but still stunning.
@@rk41gator Not that lucky! The post you answered seems to have mysteriously disappeared! The truth about this 'live' video seems unpalatable.
No computers, no autotune, no shit, just five master musicians doing their best. Perfect!
Hardly 'perfect! Most of what you see (and, especially, hear) is mimed/dubbed! BTW the 4k version that The Genesis Museum has put out is.....well, less imperfect!
@@rogerwebb7501true for the video, But the audio underneath Is from an unaltered live performance (even if it's from a different date). The new 4k version has the original audio, But it's basically a live in studio performance, so that version is actually mimed, But still Is a mix from different live takes.
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Imagine I saw this as a 15 year old in 1972 wasn’t sure what I was witnessing just magical. One gig in 73 At the end Peter was suspended from a high wire amazing 👌🎶🎹🎤
Your awe reminded me of my first time seeing Genesis -- It was just before Peter left the group during the Lamb Lies Down on Broadway tour -- I had never seen or heard them before -- I didnt even know they were a thing -- I just went to a local college concert hall and I had never seen anything like them before or since -- the WHOLE concert from start to finish was one non stop song that reached inside me and changed the way i experience music forever -- you could hear a pin drop with no clapping or cheering for the entire I believe it was 1 and 45 min -- I remember that I could not take my eyes off Peters preformance -- I do remember too that the rest of the band seemed to blend into the background and were never once highlighted -- when the last note was struck the entire crowd sat there for a couple moments like we were held in a spell then exploded into deafening appreciation for what we had witnessed -- I eagerly went to the local record store the next day and to my surprise and delight I discovered that they had so many other albums already there for me to enjoy -- I ended up with all of them ---
You NEED to hear this live from 1977 - with Phil Collins singing. (It’s actually better - let the hate come). I interviewed Genesis in 1981. Suffice to say Tony Banks is not a fan of Gabriel’s claims about the meaning of the song. “Pete’s just trying to be mysterious. This is a simple song that equates Hitler with the Antichrist. The song is rather simple, actually. It’s full of World War II references.”
In those days, there weren't complex mixing boards, so it took several minutes to program the guitars and keyboards. Peter came up with these stories to bridge the gaps between songs. Great reaction, Lee.
Mainly to cover the gaps as the 12-string guitars were tuned.
The build up to the crescendo gets me every time. Peter, Mike and Tony, met while at Charterhouse school, boarding school. This track is always spectacular.
Great reaction! I saw Steve Hackett last month with his band, and they performed "Suppers Ready." He plays an incredible solo at the end of the song that brings the house down. He's new tour is featuring selections from the Lamb album and additional early Genesis tracts. Check his website to see if he'll be in your area. Great concert for Early Genesis fans.
Hey John thanks man! I appreciate it. This was utterly magnificent. I know the audio is a tad worky compared to the studio but the visual performance more then makes up for it. I would love to catch Steve's band. I'll keep an eye out.
Thank you for your information. About a month ago I saw the tour dates, but not the program. Steve continues Foxtrot at Fifty in the USA in March and ends in Mexico in April.
The new tour The Lamb Highlights+solo is coming in July, starting in Belgium, 3 concerts in Holland are already sold out, Denmark, Germany and the UK, new dates may be added.
Lee-- there are other updated vids from the classic Genesis /Gabriel era on y-tube. They've been remastered and 'revamped'--the visuals and presentation are fantastic. Search 'em out,guy! :-) T@@L33Reacts
Insane brilliance
I saw Peter Gabriel last October in Detroit. New album. He hasn't lost a beat. His songwriting and his showmanship are on par with the best of them..
I'm gonna have to try and catch a show of his... I need too while I still can.
I was there at LCA too - very good show!
Hello to Dave and Scott from Grosse Pointe. I was at the amazing LCA show also.
I love Peter. This sounds exactly like the album. If you get a chance watch this whole show.
I can't think of anyone, other than David Gilmour, who plays his guitar with such emotion and expression as Steve Hackett..
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Cant believe this is 50 years old ; they were in their 20s and clearly way ahead of their times
You should definitely check out "Genesis on Belgian TV 1972" on youtube. Its a 45 minute video of them playing live in a TV studio. The version of Giant Hogweed is fantastic.
I'll check it out! Thanks bro 🙏
the joy on your face as you watch the craziness is heartening. it is incredible that it's all on film. we're so lucky. (these guys were kids... it's incredible. in the states, they'd still have been on their parent's health insurance.... they're so young. peter was 22 when supper's ready came out.)
look for the live "the musical box", also. it's out there.
do not be deceived, there is more going on than you might imagine, This whole story resonates with the pre christian bonding between the Lord and his people. where the supper begins the Sabbath. sheer joy. The two thousand year longing is being fulfilled in our day. The ending is so angelic and majestic. A prophecy fulfilled at last.
The fella who edited that video was Phillip Howe. The brother of Steve Howe from Yes.
Oh no shit really?? That's crazy. What a small world lol
The best live performance of this song, for me, is the one on "Seconds Out."
I heard it's amazing! I'll have to check it out.
you should its amazing for some best album live of all time @@L33Reacts
When I need some Genesis I listen to Seconds Out
sorry, without Peter and his show it cannot be as good, Ps ; I have the record and i've listened to Seconds Out several times, Still like this version more
@@KurtSauers-mi5ev you'are not a real true Genesis' fan
Stunned that I have this to look forward to! Another revelatory (!) song from my mid-teens. I hope to join you if the kids are down. The song is of course phenomenal ❤❤❤❤
I hope you can make it! It was a fantastic performance.... and when Peter sheds the darkness at the end... wow. Just wow.
@@L33Reacts Among my top prog songs, this, CTTE, and Gates are tied. This was the first among those to touch my heart from the 3 12-strings (Tony plays one!) at the start to the apocalyptic keys and the final guitar fade at the very end. Pure magic ❤️
Remember this is 50 years ago, amazing time :)
And these guys were barely 20! Like what??? Does not compute lol
wow j'avais jamais vu Tony Bank jouer de la guitare!
A flower?
Genesis Supper's Ready live second's out is the best
The Genesis Tribute band "The Musical Box" has been doing the Best Genesis tours for over 20+years know I've seen them about 13 times now and the do "Exact" tours with Gears, Stage set up and set list !! Tony Banks helped them many years ago to all the master tapes and filled them in on how they did it all in every way, the found and bought all vintage gear or had it made. Rickenbacker made them a Dbl-neck and early on Hackett loaned the Guitarist his vintage very rare Eco-Plex tape delay until he found his own !! So many things like this. Their home page has changed over the years but all the Gen member endorses what they do and Hackett and Collins said once the do our song "Perfect" and our line up was only together some 5yrs TMB has been around 20 years and perfected all our song !! Steve Peter and Phil have all brought their kids to their shows when the were young and sid this is what your Daddy did years ago !!! Lol
The have many video on YT and I have the best ones save, just let me know I'll post them !!
Over the years the do tous like they were so one years the would do the complete "Foxtrot" tour another "The Lamb" tour, then go back to the "Nursery" tour or "SEP" the are Just Amazing and it's just like I remember from 1973-75' like going back in time !! 👍✌
www.themusicalbox.net/
www.themusicalbox.net/bio.php?lang=en....
www.themusicalbox.net/dates.php?lang=en...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Musical_Box_(band)
Great reaction man. Truly brilliant music that has stood the test of time. Great to see young people connecting and appreciating this masterpiece. Supper's Ready is the epitome of 70s Progressive Rock. You must check out more Genesis, Firth Of Fifth, Ripples, In The Cage, Afterglow. The live performances of these are off the scale. Enjoy your discovery of more of music's true brilliant bands, Timeless.
Thanks Lee! I'm so glad you're seeing Supper's Ready live, and that you heard the album version first. This performance is sublime; it is just perfect and Genesis is in their early 20s! Unreal. There are so many contrasts in the performance: Peter is in black while all the others are in white. Peter gets into these amazing artistic theatrical performances while everyone else just sits and plays their instruments, perfectly of course. And the music goes through contrasting parts. That was Mike Rutherford playing the double necked guitar, a 6 string and a 4 string bass, by Rickenbacker- and the tone is tasty good. There are no extras, it's all Genesis. They are amazing no? I didn't realize how steeped in biblical knowledge you are Lee. Cool. Interesting that Peter's last name is Gabriel, like the archangel, and the band name is Genesis. There's a strong Christian spirituality here, or it's all just a coincidence.
Excellent choice! This is definitely my favorite live version of the song 😃
Glad you enjoyed it Haley! I had a great time with this. Probably one of the best songs I've ever heard. Paired with this insane performance.... wow. What else can you say?
Great reaction to an amazing performance! We are so fortunate that this was filmed and focused on the band! My son and I saw Steve Hacket's band perform this a year ago and Steve included an extended solo at the end. Spectacular! Then we saw Peter perform 2 months ago and here he was 50 years later performing at top level. No Genesis pieces, but a very memorable night!
I never listened to 70s Genesis until several years ago. Imagine my shock after thinking Genesis was just a Pop Rock band 😱
That must have been quite a shock. I know it was for me too. Abacab was the second song I did i think... and to my surprise that was.... nothing compared to what was coming lol
@@L33Reacts it was crazy to hear Firth of Fifth and Suppers Ready.
So maybe we can chat on your channel.
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Imagine the disappointment of someone into Genesis since Nursery Cryme, then they went 'Pop'. I've never forgiven them!!
@@lemming9984 Phil Collins knew what he was doing. He followed the money.
“There’s no Genesis song that would’ve sounded anything like it did if I hadn’t been around,” Banks says later. “If you don’t like Genesis, I’m what you don’t like.
UNBELIEVABLE....there's nothing better
Classic Prog Royalty the Genesis "Peter Gabriel" Ers 1970'-75' 👍
And routinely voted Classic Progs Greatest Epic by Prog Magazines yearly poll 🏆🎶
Now and then Yes - Close to the Edge is voted #1 but it's always CTTE and Supper's Ready in the Top 2 spots !! 👍🎼
@@kbrewski1 Yes Supper Ready is Amazing !! 🎶
I saw them around this time at Toronto's fabled sonic shrine Massey Hall. 'Selling England by the Pound'. Incredible musical performance only enhanced by Peter's theatricality.
Was briefly puzzled by your reference to a "touring member", an extra support player after Mike picked up the Rickenbacher double neck after having previously identifying Steve and Mike on acoustics. Nevermind, no worries. 😅😊❤
Those of us who weren't aware of Genesis until later are so fortunate to have this. Most of the show was released on the DVD with the surround sound version of Selling England by the Pound. Peter BSd stories to cover for Tony, Mike and Steve who were tuning their 12 string guitars (a pain in the ass).
Is that what that was in the beginning?? I was wondering what the hell was going on.
Was AT THIS CONCERT at the age of 20 with my once and always best friend...with orange sunshine of course. Thanks for your channel!
Steve Hackett has re-recorded Supper's Ready for his 2011 album Genesis Revisited II. On this, he had different guest singers: Mikael Åkerfeldt from Opeth, Conrad Keely from ...And You Will Know Us By The Trail Of Dead, Francis Dunnery from It Bites and Simon Collins (Phil's oldest son), who delivers a brilliant vocal performance on Apocalypse In 9/8. 😊 But Steve himself also provides lead vocals on Willow Farm.
Genesis has always been a band of creative equals.
I don't think it would be fair to say that only one person was 100% Genesis.
The great thing about these guys, along with other members incl. Ray Wilson and Anthony Phillips, is that they never had a definitive album like Dark Side Of The Moon, Tubular Bells or something like that.
The writing on each album, all the way from 1969's From Genesis To Revelation to 1997's Calling All Stations, is "too diverse", to quote Mike Rutherford. And to me, having such brilliant versatility is healthy.
Peter didn’t write all the lyrics to the Foxtrot album either. Time Table was entirely by Tony, who, along with Mike, wrote the lyrics to Watcher Of The Skies. And Can-Utility And The Coastliners was Steve's lyric.
There is no band or song like Supper's ready live. I mean Yes back then did some great stuff but still nothing like Supper's ready. All these years later & it still stands by itself.
They’ve remastered the Midnight Special video of live Musical Box and it’s totally worth the re-watch!
Yes, excellent, especially for younger people.
However, both performed songs. Genesis started with Watcher Of The Skies.
We'll end with a whistle,
We'll end with a bang!
And all of us fit in our places..."
-"Pythagoras with the looking glass reflects the full moon,
In blood he is writing the lyrics of a brand new tune....And It's...
--Hey babe with your guardian eyes so blue...
Etc..."
Great reaction. I didn't play a note on that song, but I'm pleased you enjoyed it 😊
a few month's ago I atched PG Live doing his last I/O tour, he has not give in on any of his creativity, his voice is about as good as in the past. One artist who gave me so much joy and over the last 50 years, he is lonely at the top of my list man. Great video Lee. I keep pushing the Secret World Live. Keep on the good video's man.
A just brilliant performance by Genesis!
Simply extraordinary in every aspect. A true dazzling gem.
One word. Brilliant.
L33: I guarantee you that Phil wasn't bored during the section called "Apocalypse In 9/8" where Tony's soloing for quite a while over that riff you were enjoying. But yeah, your taking it all in, the musical and visual spectacle, was great to watch cuz all the same stuff that hit us back in the day hits you. What a grand way to ease into my morning. Thanks so much for doing this one.
Okay, I haven't seen this comment yet, so I apologize if it's already here. 6:06 Tony Banks on guitar. A rare sight, at least for me. It's fair that you thought an extra man was up there. I just watched your New Year video and it's so good! I hope your 2024 is amazing!
You are too kind brie :) thank you so much! I hope you have a wonderful 2024 as well. And I was so confused over that 😂 Thanks for pointing that out. What a show. I'm glad you enjoyed the new years video ☺️☺️
Thank you so much for this!.....I've seen odd clips of Genesis, back in the day, but not this ....wow!
It's great to see someone from a younger generation hearing the greatest song from the greatest album. You are reliving my youth.
@L33Reacts No touring member, just them 5. At the beginning Steve, Mike and Tony played guitars. Steve & Tony a 12-string. Then Tony left the guitar and played keys, while a little later Steve changed his. And some part Mike grabbed the 2 neck bass & guitar. Don’t remember if he played a normal bass somewhere in the song too
Live I think Mike usually added bass pedal notes while playing the acoustic (6 string), which he swopped for the Rickenbacker electric bass (twin neck) for the latter part - if I remember rightly he used the twin neck (incl. a Shergold) a bit later on. It's difficult to see whether he actually plays the bass pedals (for the first 5 mins odd) as we don't really see his legs - but you can hear those bass notes....probably this section is dubbed on from a live tape - widely rumoured to be the Rainbow concert of 73 broadcast by the BBC ( listening again to the Rainbow concert, I doubt this). One of the 'mistakes' of this version of the film is that we see Tony playing the 12 string after he has started to play the Hohner pianet N and Hammond (I think the 100L, but can't quite see)
Steve Hacket still performs Genesis songs with his amazing band of musicians, if they come your way, go see them, you will not be disappointed .
Genesis were given the name in 1967 by an ex- Charterhouse pupil called Jonathan King who was
a singer, songwriter and producer at the time, he produced their first 3 singles and the album Genesis to Revelation, the album was put in the religious section in music stores and only sold 649 copies. unfortunately In September 2001 Jonathan King was convicted of an unforgivable crime and sent to prison for 7 years.
Cool react!! You got to see the tribute band The Musical Box... It's a must!
My hands down Genesis favorite! Thanks!
Last month I saw The Musical Box (a tribute band from Canada) do a full early Genesis concert. It was amazing. The details were crazy exact. They did the entire Gabriel's stick with all his stories. They even had the drummer wear Phil's white overalls. When they covered 'Watcher of the Skies' the blacklights, the huge projected 'eyes' above the band, the whole stage was magical, surreal, very avant-garde. That Genesis could do an entire concert by memory, including 'Supper's Ready' just blows my mind. They were truly unique.
Giving you a like before I even watch. My #2 prog epic behind The Gates of Delirium. Let's get started!
Thanks Dennis! I hope you enjoyed brother. I had a blast with this video 🙃
My favorite version is on the SECONDS OUT live album. Phil does the vocals, but does a fantastic job of it. I think Tony said it was their best version. Let the music play!
Agreed!
Agreed too!
Agree, musically they were better on the Seconds Out version
I had Magog as a Halloween costume in 1980, once. Worst idea. I took up too much space on the couch!
😅😆😆😆😆😆
great reaction. revisiting this and seeing your reaction makes it impossible not to recommend a bit of Peter Gabriel solo, I just discovered this one recently. one of the weirder more atmospheric tracks off pg4 (security) in a live performance that really surprised me. great quality. search "peter gabriel lay your hands athens 1987" and it'll pop right to the top. another song with religious overtones that may resonate. anyway, hope you do it soon and have fun.
Best live version of Suppers ready with original line up is a full length performance on French t.v.. I think from 1973? Check it out. I can see your a fan of Genesis style lyrics and progressive rock. As the germ in a seed grows we finally been freed to get back home.!!!!!
Seconds Out live version 💯
The best one by far
Seconds out is gonna be a special thing I do on new years I believe. SO you don't have to wait too long for it;)
I can't wait. It's simply the best live Genesis album and in my top 3 favourite albums of all time.
Another great reaction and great choice of recording. In some shows Gabriel was actually lifted up on a wire at the end. I saw them perform this in London in 76 with Phil on vocals and Bill Bruford on drums. The inflatable flowers exploding from the side of the stage during Willow Farm sent the audience crazy.
I touring member !!!!! 😳😲😖 WWWWhat !!!!!!!!!! Come on man Lol
Lee at least learn the history of the Best band Ever on Wiki , Okay ☺✌
Gabriel/ Banks/ Hackett, Rutherford & Collins ..... The Greatest of the Great !!! 🎶
A Musicians Band 👍
As sure as eggs is eggs ( aching man's feet) is such a great outro to an amazing quintessential Prog song.
I saw them do this live in 1974 in Indianapolis. The ticket for that concert cost a whole $5.00
Fuckin a man.... I wish. Nowadays it's 9 bucks for a gallon of milk. I can't imagine how much some tickets cost for even mid level bands lol
I saw same tour day after you saw. Venue was too big. Had a theater stage and far left and right seats had curtains in way. Gabriel had crew tie back after someone in audience complained. The entire upper half of hall was closed/empty. I only heard Visions of Angels, so I was gobsmacked.
Brilliant. Glad i caught the live show. Lee, mea culpa. I checked Wiki and indeed there is speculation that Jill Gabriel had taken something. I’m pretty sure that other than his one-off disastrous hashish experience, Pete did nothing and was is a lifetime teetotaler. So you were right ❤
Interesting analysis. 💙🎵🎶🎶 You Rock!!
Thanks Renee! No, YOU rock :)
hee hee 🥰
A right, proper Prog song this one and no mistake. Credit to you for reacting to such a long piece of work.
amazing performance and some insightful comments at the end👍
Hey thanks Steven I appreciate that. And I totally agree, it's frickin awesome lol
Supper's Ready es una pieza maestra del rock progresivo, música que no se volverá a crear, por eso hay que disfrutarla al máximo y difundirla entra las nuevas generaciones...
Another great reaction bro!🎸
You rock brother thank you so much! 🙏
Check out PG doing Talk to Me live - he always kept up the theatrical angle, even later on.
I am definitely gonna be doing more solo PG stuff next month! I did in your eyes last week and it was transcendent
Thanks for the reminder man.... WTF was the right response to his costumes. As a Genesis fan I must be the only one who doesn't rank this as his favourite? except for the magnificent ending that is. Firth of Fifth of course and Burning rope are the ones for me!
Just checked out your reaction to The Musical Box. You must try the live version on The Midnight Special, the same quality, but with Gabriel's theatrics and makeup. Much less outlandish than in Supper's Ready and definitely adding to the performance. You'll be surprised!
If you want to feel what it was like to be at a Genesis concert, you should go to see a performance by the Genesis tribute band called The Musical Box. They are a French Canadian band that tour every year throughout the US and Europe. The band attained the rights to all of the costumes that Peter wore. Peter and Phil have given them their stamp of approval. They are awesome. You would think you were seeing Genesis back in the day. They probably come to your area. Check with the theaters where you live, you won't regret it!! I have been going to their shows since 2007.
Quite right. I've seen them do their Lamb show. Outstanding.
I am going to see them if they come by Baltimore or DC for sure. I would love to see that..
Great stuff my friend
Thank you John! I appreciate it! 🙏
I recommend Dance on a Volcano and Los Endos from Seconds Out. Your won't regret it.
Nice Channel.
JT
Thanks JT! I am actually planning on doing something from seconds out on new years!
Saw them do this at the little bitty Roxy on the Sunset Strip. Amazing!
I bet it was fantastic... I'm jealous lol
Supper's Ready Seconds Out
As a drummer, you should check out live video of Los Endos with Phil and Bill Bruford both playing drums. The show I saw was bootlegged and sounds pretty good. I suspect technology will allow isolating these audience recordings into multi-tracked/remixes.
'That other guy' is Steve Hackett! Not just some 'tour guy'.
This was good Lee for your first time you may want to even extend it a little bit in the future.. I know Scott goes an hour and a half on Sunday😊
Peter has said he never did acid. Richard Macphail said in his (very good) book 'My Book of Genesis' that he didn't (but nowhere have I seen that Gabriel didn't do mushrooms, lol) Phil has said they might enjoy a spliff before a performance or at rehearsals.
You finally did it...bravo!
Wooooo! What a ride it was too lol
I started hearing this stuff wafting out of study windows at my boarding school in the early/mid 70s and then from little mono tape machines in the junior study room, awful sound, on cassettes donated by older brothers. After a couple of years I could finally afford to buy the records themselves. I have never looked back. I have just shy of 17,000 files on my ipod.
If I was told I had to delete everything bar one band I would keep my pre `75 Genesis. Even now after 50 years
I actually got to see them just before Gabriel left, at the Empire Pool on the Lamb tour. My friend and I were 14. So by far the youngest out of 10,000 on the night ! A bootleg of the whole thing is here on this site.
one of teh greatest song of all
I agree. Wholeheartedly. This is a masterpiece among masterpieces.
No tour guy there!
Steve Hackett on the far left!
then Mike Rutherford, Peter Gabriel, Phil Collins and finally Tony Banks on the right side...
Phil wasn't bored its his drumming face 👍
The Live version is The best, with Phil Collins.
Keep Rocking,
Ronnie Scotland
Pro-tip: you DONT need drugs to have a creative mind and be able to look at things from weird angles. You just need to train your mind to do that by freeing it from shackles that tell you to "BELIEVE in this ideology".
There was only the 5 of them. Mike changed up to the doubleneck.
Yeah I didn't realize they were moving around the stage LOL I was like what is going on??
Sorry, but you're wrong. Peter wasn't 100% of Genesis. That's only because of his live performances and desguises put a focus on him (making Genesis famous instantly in front page of Melody Maker in 1972) and that at that time people thought Peter did all. Totally wrong. He was one of 5 creatives. Tony and Mike contributed as equal on lyrics and far more musically than Peter. Peter was the singer and brought incredible lyrics on songs, but he wasn't at all the leader, that's a reason among others why he left. The 4 others were beginning been frustrated that the audience and press thought that Peter was the leader who did all. They proove them all wrong with A trick of the tail and with the rest of their albums...
Peter wrote a letter in 75 to avoid misconceptions from the public and press:
In August 1975 Peter Gabriel wrote this letter and delivered it personally to the English press:
I had a dream, eye’s dream. Then I had another dream with the body and soul of a rock star. When it didn’t feel good I packed it in. Looking back for the musical and non-musical reasons, this is what I came up with:
OUT, ANGELS OUT - an investigation.
The vehicle we had built as a co-op to serve our songwriting became our master and had cooped us up inside the success we had wanted. It affected the attitudes and the spirit of the whole band. the music had not dried up and I still respect the other musicians, but our roles had set in hard. To get an idea through “Genesis the Big” meant shifting a lot more concrete than before. For any band, transferring the heart from idealistic enthusiasm to professionalism is a difficult operation.
I believe the use of sound and visual images can be developed to do much more than we have done. But on a large scale it needs one clear and coherent direction, which our pseudo-democratic committee system could not provide.
As an artist, I need to absorb a wide variety of experiences. It is difficult to respond to intuition and impulse within the long-term planning that the band needed. I felt I should look at/learn about/develop myself, my creative bits and pieces and pick up on a lot of work going on outside music. Even the hidden delights of vegetable growing and community living are beginning to reveal their secrets. I could not expect the band to tie in their schedules with my bondage to cabbages. The increase in money and power, if I had stayed, would have anchored me to the spotlights. It was important to me to give space to my family, which I wanted to hold together, and to liberate the daddy in me.
Although I have seen and learnt a great deal in the last seven years, I found I had begun to look at things as the famous Gabriel, despite hiding my occupation whenever possible, hitching lifts, etc. I had begun to think in business terms; very useful for an often bitten once shy musician, but treating records and audiences as money was taking me away from them. When performing, there were less shivers up and down the spine.
I believe the world has soon to go through a difficult period of changes. I’m excited by some of the areas coming through to the surface which seem to have been hidden away in people’s minds. I want to explore and be prepared to be open and flexible enough to respond, not tied in to the old hierarchy.
Much of my psyche’s ambitions as “Gabriel archetypal rock star” have been fulfilled - a lot of the ego-gratification and the need to attract young ladies, perhaps the result of frequent rejection as “Gabriel acne-struck public school boy”. However, I can still get off playing the star game once in a while.
My future within music, if it exists, will be in as many situations as possible. It’s good to see a growing number of artists breaking down the pigeonholes. This is the difference between the profitable, compartmentalized, battery chicken and the free-range. Why did the chicken cross the road anyway?
There is no animosity between myself and the band or management. The decision had been made some time ago and we have talked about our new direction. The reason why my leaving was not announced earlier was because I had been asked to delay until they had found a replacement to plug up the hole. It is not impossible that some of them might work with me on other projects.
The following guesswork has little in common with truth:
Gabriel left Genesis
1) To work in theatre.
2) To make more money as a solo artist.
3) To do a “Bowie”.
4) To do a “Ferry”.
5) To do a “Furry Boa round my neck and hang myself with it”.
6) To go see an institution.
7) To go senile in the sticks.
I do not express myself adequately in interviews and I felt I owed it to the people who have put a lot of love and energy supporting the band to give an accurate picture of my reasons. So I ask that you print all or none of this.
Audience tripping on LSD watching this, probably still tripping 50 years later 🤯🤯🤯😀😀😀
El video es genial, pero deberías haber reaccionado al sonido original del concierto. El falsete de Gabriel en el nuevo sonido editado no termino de digerirlo hasta el día de hoy, después de haber visto como mil veces el vídeo con el sonido original
I recommend that you read the lyrics and the story behind this song. It’s actually quite creepy 😅
You'll often see this film referred to as the "Shepperton" concert. Back in the early 70's it was crazy hard to film indoors concerts, usually because the lighting was crap, but also where do you put your cameras? Just watch the Yessongs film from the Rainbow Theater as an example. To get around this problem Genesis' management rented a soundstage at Shepperton Studios. That way they could set up as many lights and cameras wherever they wanted (and the lighting is still not that good, but no doubt the budget was tiny.) As I recall, they invited members of their fan club in to give it some concert authenticity, plus to give the band someone to play to (and to get some cheering on tape, which was 'enhanced' in post-production.) IMO the live version filmed for the French 'Melody' TV program in 1974 is overall better than this, although it's marred by some unfortunate video effects end editing (ua-cam.com/video/G3IpvFXj2Yw/v-deo.html).
This was filmed in Shepperton film studios. Was there actually an audience? The applause doesn't sound natural - overdubbed?
@@kbrewski1 Oh, OK! Usually in live films the camera does show the audience - I didn't notice any in this.
They're miming most, if not all of this....and there was no audience - the heads you see are cardboard cutout! Watch very carefully at the beginning, Steve, Mike and Tony are all playing acoustic guitars...so who's playing bass - no not Mike playing his foot pedals (although he does later). Secondly watch carefully the few 'fills' that Phil does that are shown close in, they're not what you hear! Peter's lipsync is so obviously faulty at various points too.
This film made at Shepperton was considered not good enough for release when it was made. The sound was in fact the BBC broadcast live from the Rainbow 1973 show (Edit. Listening again to the tapes from the Rainbow, I now doubt this) saw this show twice but not at the Rainbow.
@@rogerwebb7501 Aaaaah, I knew I wasn't too far wrong! Thanks for confirming.
@@kbrewski1Yes, you're right about the 4k version being better, but I'm still not convinced by the audio. I've compared versions of 'live' Supper's Ready, and although the tape from Rainbow 73 broadcast on Radio is very similar, it differs in some respects - this Rainbow tape is often said to be the basis of the Shepperton audio track. The Genesis Museum (who claim only 50% is from the sound recorded at the sessions) says that Charisma (Genesis's record company) provided tapes of live concerts to use in conjunction with the film...but they don't say which.
BTW There is abundant bass on the acoustic guitar intro, and having listened to several live versions, I think Mike normally plays this part on his bass pedals - it's hard to see even on the 4k version whether he is actually playing them, but they are certainly there....probably from a live tape.
In updating the film, The Genesis Museum has taken out some of the obvious mistakes.....but is it in anyway Genesis 'live'?To see that, we either had to be there...I was 5 times in all!
Or, take a look at the remastered 16mm Bataclan French TV concert of '73....all, more or less in close-up, and all more or less 'featuring' Peter!
@@kbrewski1 I'm not claiming it's all mimed - in fact The Genesis Museum claim only 50% of it is mimed. And I'm certainly not claiming the Bataclan concert was....in fact I said that concert gives a true picture of what Genesis was like live back in 1973 - the first year I saw them in concert.
I cannot see how anyone can watch this version of 'Shepperton' and think that it is not in many instances, another sound recording, just replay it and wait for the snare 'fill' in the episode after Peter sings ' I know a fireman who looks after the fire', you'll notice Phil doesn't 'play' the snare 'fill' at that point. This is but one of many examples of the miming (when I say 'miming' I don't mean to suggest that the band weren't 'playing', merely that the sound used in the edit was not that sound made when the band were filmed). Many of the most glaring 'mistakes' don't appear in the 4k version, (eg. the snare fill above) and to a certain extent is more 'believable' .
It's an amazing tune for sure but NOW, listen to the Seconds Out live version with Phil singing. It'll blow your mind. That's all I'll say.
17:15 what other guy? 23:20 Google guards of Magog, that he references
Have you reacted to a plague of lighthouse keepers live yet?
More Phil?
Check out Disco Suicide by Brand X.
JT
It was great to see the live perfomance. You should still give the studio version a listen from Foxtrot. Stunning.
If you want to know what he is able to do with his voice you need to listen to Rythm of the Heat from 3:44 till 4:02.