A $ saving tip for doing 90° bends: Get a piece of gray pvc conduit 90 elbow and instead of having to cut the pex and add a fitting, you slide the pex through the elbow and it bends 90°. It's cheaper than having to buy the fitting- especially if you have to add rings. It also is one less spot for leaking. Get 1 pipe size larger than the pex. When we were installing 1/2" pex we used 3/4" conduit. Had to repair some hot water lines under the house and used this method to bend the pex to go up through the floor. Some valves now come with pex barbs on them. Although you need to make sure you get the right kind (expansion vs ring). I want to use those j-hook thingies but I have terrible aim with a hammer. LOL.
Your video what like the only one that helped me do this (my first time) plumbing a shower. Making a walkin shower with a rain shower head and into a 2 person sauna. Wish me luck. About to do the preasure test after i get my part for hooking up to the hot water line.
For going down to a tub filler, you can also use 3/4 inch pex instead of 1/2 inch. The 3/4 inch pex will allow enough water down more comparable to 1/2 inch copper to where you will not get any backflow to the shower head.
im a DIY guy. Just wondering if there is a restriction when using pex 1/2 or better 3/4 of pex A or B, because if you look inside these shower valves the orifices are so small that this is the main flow compromise & that any pipes leading to the valve doesnt really matter. Unless you can drill out the orifices in the valve body & cartridge to open up the flow more. Just thinking out loud.
@@LifeMasteryPodcastStevenArecco I was curious about this too. I'm using Delta's R22000 mixing/diverter valve which will serve 3 outputs, using a maximum of two of them at once. Their sheet says the 17T at 40 psi will deliver 5.9 gpm. Since I'm in California and should use 1.8 gpm heads, my max output would be 3.6 gpm so my pressure should be fine. But when looking at the valve outputs, they are 5/8" wide. Both my pex and pex adapter has an inside diameter less than this, making me worry about pressure. So I was originally thinking to oversize to 3/4" for piping and adapters. But when you look inside the valve body as you said, the valve holes are even smaller, which makes me think that is the bottleneck the gpm numbers are coming from so my 1/2 pex and pex adapter shouldn't affect it. But it would be nice to know before starting.
Yes yes, 100% agree with this! That is one thing I wish I would have done differently. With the crimping style pex you have reduction of flow with any fitting, so limiting the amount of fittings is always a good idea. Thanks for the feedback!
@@AtHomeDIY super. gave you a thumbs up (already) and also for having a chat. I do not appreciate hatters beating up folks who post... thanks for your work sir.
@@AtHomeDIY You can save $ by using pvc conduit elbows. They are around $1 or lower, don't have to worry about the pipe popping out the side, and it's adjustable. Just go one pipe size larger than the pex.
Hey brotha. Got a question. I can’t find the fitting at 8:00 in video. I also need those for body jets and shower to mount. But I can’t find them. Can you shoot me a link for Home Depot or lowes ? Or a better name to search
Are both valves the same product? Lowes sells a Delta product called a Multi-choice Rough-in body. So would one be used as the main valve, and another be used as the diverter? The instructions that come with it are pretty vague.
you may like the delta r22000 ws integrated diverter,and i use sweated adapters to pex,,but looks like mine, i did body sprays,and hand-held ,nice video
Thanks for this video! I am in the process of demoing my walls. Have a bath to shower remodel in the process. It's cool that there are diverters for that. I was wondering do you need a certain shower handle to run pex, or do you just buy the threaded converters for it separately?
Most new converters should be like the one I used here. Just thread on (with teflon tape) the adapter for pex and you should be good to go. I would guess they leave them as threaded so plumbers have the option to going with pex or copper.
I have the same setup as what you did , but have no idea what kind of finish trim kit should I buy? I'm using Delta rough in. Any advice what kind of trim kit should I get for my delta? bottom rough in and above rough in . 2 way , 3 way or 4?
Im surprised you are using those crimp rings as opposed to the other type. Im not sire if those ones are better or not but i have become addicted to the other type
In the box with all your hardware there is a paper with instructions. This will have a drawing detailing the exact depth it should be mounted relative to the rough framing as well as backerboard.
Google "rough in shower valve height" and you'll get some info there. As far as placement elsewhere in the shower, it comes down to personal preference and what you feel would be the best place for ease of use base upon your layout. Hope that helps!
Yes sir, correct. That is something that I failed to mention in the video. For anyone wondering, this is a flat metal piece that should come with the crimp tool. It has cutouts at the correct diameter the crimp rings should be at AFTER crimping. You simply slip it over the ring to verify that the ring has been compressed adequately around the fitting. Thanks for mentioning that, Steve!
Short answer: It doesn't matter. The color of the pipe has no affect on the actually water traveling through it. Pex is colored just as a simplicity factor, probably because they market to home owners and DIYers.
@@AtHomeDIY Im trying to do the same thing you did, but im having trouble finding a kit that comes like that..is that 2 kits or ...? How fo i go about getting something like that
@@Fab-md6bd So I used a website called build.com. I just called their customer service and explained what set up I wanted (rain shower, normal wall shower, and detachable wand) and they put it all together in the cart for me! For this set up I have a normal mixer valve and that feeds into the 6-way diverter valve which I think is what you're referring to. My recommendation would be to do to that site, pick out the style (finish, shape, brand) you want then give them a call and they will help you get everything else set up. I was pretty surprised how knowledgable the gal on the phone was about all the stuff.
Thanks for the positive feedback! I'm sure some others will chime in here, but in general I try not to use sharkbites in a space that will be hard to access once closed in. Doing my kitchen reno currently and I had a sharkbite with a slow leak, luckily I caught it before getting much further. As a previous commenter said, I should have avoided the 90* fittings and just gently bent the pex piping 90* (they actually sell a plastic piece that helps with this). Basic rule of thumb... fewer fittings = better flow and less opportunity for leaks. Best of luck!
There are official benders made by Holdrite and other companies but I like to use gray pvc electrical conduit elbows. They are cheap and if you get one size larger than the pex, you can slide the pex right through and it bends 90°. Used it on my friend's plumbing and on my own and it worked great.
@@AtHomeDIY You'll save time and hassle by getting gray pvc 90° elbows. For 1/2" pex get 3/4" elbow. Slides right through, makes the bend, and you can adjust where the bend is. If you wanted to be really cheap you could cut the elbows in half and use tape or some zip ties or something to hold it in place. But, just using an entire elbow is easier.
Good video except... he points to the various valves and describes his design, how the valves work but never mentions the valve type, the manufacturer, and doesn't provide any links to the valves or diverter. [sigh]
FAIL - Good video showing plumbing layout but thats it. He keeps mentioning the valves and diverter but never reveals their type, model or trim numbers in the video or in the description... very disappointing. (They "appear" to be the Delta MultiChoice R10000 rough-in valve leading up to Delta R11000 Universal Diverter but thats just a guess based their physical appearance )
Good job. And simple explanation. No music crap just right to the point.
A $ saving tip for doing 90° bends: Get a piece of gray pvc conduit 90 elbow and instead of having to cut the pex and add a fitting, you slide the pex through the elbow and it bends 90°. It's cheaper than having to buy the fitting- especially if you have to add rings. It also is one less spot for leaking. Get 1 pipe size larger than the pex. When we were installing 1/2" pex we used 3/4" conduit. Had to repair some hot water lines under the house and used this method to bend the pex to go up through the floor.
Some valves now come with pex barbs on them. Although you need to make sure you get the right kind (expansion vs ring).
I want to use those j-hook thingies but I have terrible aim with a hammer. LOL.
Great tip! I'll use this in the future, thanks!
Outstanding! Simple and easy to understand, great job bro!
Thanks!
Your video what like the only one that helped me do this (my first time) plumbing a shower. Making a walkin shower with a rain shower head and into a 2 person sauna. Wish me luck. About to do the preasure test after i get my part for hooking up to the hot water line.
Can't find a "next" video. Would like to see what you used to trim out the rough in.
For going down to a tub filler, you can also use 3/4 inch pex instead of 1/2 inch. The 3/4 inch pex will allow enough water down more comparable to 1/2 inch copper to where you will not get any backflow to the shower head.
im a DIY guy. Just wondering if there is a restriction when using pex 1/2 or better 3/4 of pex A or B, because if you look inside these shower valves the orifices are so small that this is the main flow compromise & that any pipes leading to the valve doesnt really matter. Unless you can drill out the orifices in the valve body & cartridge to open up the flow more. Just thinking out loud.
@@LifeMasteryPodcastStevenArecco I was curious about this too. I'm using Delta's R22000 mixing/diverter valve which will serve 3 outputs, using a maximum of two of them at once. Their sheet says the 17T at 40 psi will deliver 5.9 gpm. Since I'm in California and should use 1.8 gpm heads, my max output would be 3.6 gpm so my pressure should be fine. But when looking at the valve outputs, they are 5/8" wide. Both my pex and pex adapter has an inside diameter less than this, making me worry about pressure. So I was originally thinking to oversize to 3/4" for piping and adapters. But when you look inside the valve body as you said, the valve holes are even smaller, which makes me think that is the bottleneck the gpm numbers are coming from so my 1/2 pex and pex adapter shouldn't affect it. But it would be nice to know before starting.
1/2 PEX-A would be OK, or 3/4 PEX-B, because of stacking, there's enough restriction that the water will go up to the diverter
Great job. What is the make and model # of the valve and the diverter?
Thank you,
thanks! I suggest you do away with elbows and use pex sweep instead of 90s if it will fit.
Yes yes, 100% agree with this! That is one thing I wish I would have done differently. With the crimping style pex you have reduction of flow with any fitting, so limiting the amount of fittings is always a good idea. Thanks for the feedback!
@@AtHomeDIY super. gave you a thumbs up (already) and also for having a chat. I do not appreciate hatters beating up folks who post... thanks for your work sir.
@@AtHomeDIY You can save $ by using pvc conduit elbows. They are around $1 or lower, don't have to worry about the pipe popping out the side, and it's adjustable. Just go one pipe size larger than the pex.
Hey brotha. Got a question.
I can’t find the fitting at 8:00 in video. I also need those for body jets and shower to mount. But I can’t find them. Can you shoot me a link for Home Depot or lowes ? Or a better name to search
Does the upper valve allow for two of the three to be on at the same time?
Perfect and clear. Thanks
Thanks for making the video. Good stuff. The only thing that I saw that made me cringe is the pex pipe but that because I'm use go copper.
Do you happen to know the mixing and diverter valve model and brand name ?
Are both valves the same product? Lowes sells a Delta product called a Multi-choice Rough-in body. So would one be used as the main valve, and another be used as the diverter? The instructions that come with it are pretty vague.
Love this vid. Where can I purchase these 3way valve mixer
you may like the delta r22000 ws integrated diverter,and i use sweated adapters to pex,,but looks like mine, i did body sprays,and hand-held ,nice video
You didn't seem to mention the removal of the plug inside for 2 or 3way valve conversion
Great video. Appreciate it fellow diyer.
You using 3/4 pex or half
Thanks for this video! I am in the process of demoing my walls. Have a bath to shower remodel in the process. It's cool that there are diverters for that. I was wondering do you need a certain shower handle to run pex, or do you just buy the threaded converters for it separately?
Most new converters should be like the one I used here. Just thread on (with teflon tape) the adapter for pex and you should be good to go. I would guess they leave them as threaded so plumbers have the option to going with pex or copper.
Very nice
I have the same setup as what you did , but have no idea what kind of finish trim kit should I buy? I'm using Delta rough in. Any advice what kind of trim kit should I get for my delta? bottom rough in and above rough in . 2 way , 3 way or 4?
Im surprised you are using those crimp rings as opposed to the other type. Im not sire if those ones are better or not but i have become addicted to the other type
How do you know how deep to mount these?
In the box with all your hardware there is a paper with instructions. This will have a drawing detailing the exact depth it should be mounted relative to the rough framing as well as backerboard.
Would like to know the recommended measurements and distances to position the rough-in valves. Does anyone know?
Google "rough in shower valve height" and you'll get some info there. As far as placement elsewhere in the shower, it comes down to personal preference and what you feel would be the best place for ease of use base upon your layout. Hope that helps!
After you compress the crimp ring with the crimping tool you need to check it with a go/no go gauge.
Yes sir, correct. That is something that I failed to mention in the video. For anyone wondering, this is a flat metal piece that should come with the crimp tool. It has cutouts at the correct diameter the crimp rings should be at AFTER crimping. You simply slip it over the ring to verify that the ring has been compressed adequately around the fitting. Thanks for mentioning that, Steve!
Shouldn't the cold be blue or am I missing something?
Short answer: It doesn't matter. The color of the pipe has no affect on the actually water traveling through it. Pex is colored just as a simplicity factor, probably because they market to home owners and DIYers.
@@AtHomeDIY Shorter answer - your channel is not for those with OCD
what is the name of the valve
Show us this set up on a house with walls already up. As repair. 😂😂
Do you not have to worry about your pipes freezing?
This is indoor plumbing in a conditioned space, no concerns for freezing
Where i live pipe dope is code, wont pass with Teflon
What brand is that is that shower kit you installed 3in 1?
The brand is Delta I believe.
@@AtHomeDIY
Im trying to do the same thing you did, but im having trouble finding a kit that comes like that..is that 2 kits or ...?
How fo i go about getting something like that
@@Fab-md6bd So I used a website called build.com. I just called their customer service and explained what set up I wanted (rain shower, normal wall shower, and detachable wand) and they put it all together in the cart for me! For this set up I have a normal mixer valve and that feeds into the 6-way diverter valve which I think is what you're referring to. My recommendation would be to do to that site, pick out the style (finish, shape, brand) you want then give them a call and they will help you get everything else set up. I was pretty surprised how knowledgable the gal on the phone was about all the stuff.
@@AtHomeDIY
Awesome thank you for all the info !!
Thanks from one UA-camr to another😊 I'm guessing you could of used the PEX SharkBite bend support instead of cutting & crimping all the 90° angles
Thanks for the positive feedback! I'm sure some others will chime in here, but in general I try not to use sharkbites in a space that will be hard to access once closed in. Doing my kitchen reno currently and I had a sharkbite with a slow leak, luckily I caught it before getting much further. As a previous commenter said, I should have avoided the 90* fittings and just gently bent the pex piping 90* (they actually sell a plastic piece that helps with this). Basic rule of thumb... fewer fittings = better flow and less opportunity for leaks. Best of luck!
There are official benders made by Holdrite and other companies but I like to use gray pvc electrical conduit elbows. They are cheap and if you get one size larger than the pex, you can slide the pex right through and it bends 90°. Used it on my friend's plumbing and on my own and it worked great.
@@AtHomeDIY You'll save time and hassle by getting gray pvc 90° elbows. For 1/2" pex get 3/4" elbow. Slides right through, makes the bend, and you can adjust where the bend is. If you wanted to be really cheap you could cut the elbows in half and use tape or some zip ties or something to hold it in place. But, just using an entire elbow is easier.
Well done like your explanation nice work
Good video except... he points to the various valves and describes his design, how the valves work but never mentions the valve type, the manufacturer, and doesn't provide any links to the valves or diverter. [sigh]
FAIL - Good video showing plumbing layout but thats it. He keeps mentioning the valves and diverter but never reveals their type, model or trim numbers in the video or in the description... very disappointing. (They "appear" to be the Delta MultiChoice R10000 rough-in valve leading up to Delta R11000 Universal Diverter but thats just a guess based their physical appearance )