BRZ vs WRX STI - ReMatch [Disrespected Emotion]

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  • 130kw VS 180kw - Well that was unexpected! We take the BRZ and WRX STI to a smaller track to see if the RWD BRZ can keep up with the JDM Hero STI on a tighter circuit - an unexpected result that we didn't see coming!
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  • @mightycarmods
    @mightycarmods  4 роки тому +100

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    • @kylejones6465
      @kylejones6465 4 роки тому +1

      Bobby-Ray Zelda

    • @predaR6
      @predaR6 4 роки тому

      are you guys going to mod the brz? maby supercharger/turbo etc.?

    • @louiswilliamhicks
      @louiswilliamhicks 4 роки тому

      Just call it BRuumZ, because it's a brum brum

    • @richardunderwood950
      @richardunderwood950 4 роки тому

      Glad the BRZ is getting some well deserved love from the UA-cam car community lately

    • @stateofmike3426
      @stateofmike3426 4 роки тому

      Got mine in the mail today! Cherry scented literally.... if you also buy the air fresheners. Thanks heaps.

  • @JustAGearHead
    @JustAGearHead 4 роки тому +376

    I just noticed Marty is wearing one of the shirts I sent them. I'm happy he liked it enough to actually wear it.

    • @Methosthei
      @Methosthei 4 роки тому +8

      That’s awesome. Were can I get one?

    • @JustAGearHead
      @JustAGearHead 4 роки тому +7

      @@Methosthei you can find the link in the description of my videos, if you want to check out the videos as well. Or you can go to RedBubble and search JustAGearHead.

    • @Methosthei
      @Methosthei 4 роки тому +6

      @@JustAGearHead Just looked at your channel, liked what I saw , subscribed.

    • @JustAGearHead
      @JustAGearHead 4 роки тому +5

      @@Methosthei Thanks for the sub.

    • @talenabezboridka1544
      @talenabezboridka1544 4 роки тому +1

      Thats super cool. :)

  • @aidankingman1316
    @aidankingman1316 4 роки тому +460

    Marty: turns wheel the smallest degree
    Impreza tyres: SCREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEECH

    • @dylanf6091
      @dylanf6091 4 роки тому +3

      Wasnt it 5k for your brz? A high performance clutch doesn't cost that much does it?

    • @truculenttabasco
      @truculenttabasco 4 роки тому +30

      Understeer City: Population = Marty.

    • @radbug
      @radbug 4 роки тому +3

      has the wrong air pressure in those tires. marty is just really timid in the turns. once he started following his corners were easily 20% faster.

    • @bryce5391
      @bryce5391 4 роки тому +4

      Radbug he needs negative camber up front

    • @bryce5391
      @bryce5391 4 роки тому +7

      S F or maybe... those of us who track STis and know from experience you’ll understeer a bitch unless you have decent negative camber.. which any half-brain knows Marty doesn’t because he has no camber adjustment other than stock bolts which net a degree tops. But yes let’s go with your thing

  • @alimuhma
    @alimuhma 4 роки тому +104

    10 years later, Moog is still trying to catch Marty's STI....

  • @Alex-wb2yw
    @Alex-wb2yw 4 роки тому +350

    I feel like the STi is understeering way more than it should be. Id soften the front sway, and stiffen up the rear.

    • @Terminator4000
      @Terminator4000 4 роки тому +13

      Yeah should make a massive difference

    • @Zesserie
      @Zesserie 4 роки тому +39

      It dont think thats the issue, it seems set up right. 4WD does understear but you can correct it with brakes going into a corner. accelerating will understear while breaking is gonna transfer load to the front and give better traction.
      break, rotate and pin it when you have a clear line out of the corner is what im told with 4WD. could be wrong though

    • @Alex-wb2yw
      @Alex-wb2yw 4 роки тому +28

      ​@@Zesserie All i know is on my STi (06, so slightly different but not much), I much preferred the oem front sway bar with a 24mm rear. The car rotates well, and hardly understeers at all. This is only based on autox experience, and lots of back road driving. No actual on track experience.

    • @BeauJohnson247
      @BeauJohnson247 4 роки тому +7

      Cant Be Arsed could be wrong?yes, you are wrong... the car is setup poorly

    • @Zesserie
      @Zesserie 4 роки тому +1

      I stand corrected i guess, Dont have any real experience racing with 4WD.

  • @markraumer2336
    @markraumer2336 4 роки тому +281

    Hey Marty, I had similar issues with my WRX 15 years ago. I bought a stiffer antisway bar on the front suspension and it became a snowplough. I saw the light and removed the bar and returned it to factory spec. I then put a stiffer adjustable bar on the rear and Shazam no understeer. Adjust your tyre pressure as well as that can really change the balance of the car and it’s grip. Love the WRC blue coupe!

    • @jacsmiley
      @jacsmiley 4 роки тому +7

      Agree! I've owned x2 an E2DD and F2DD. Both factory strut and factory swaybars and uprated springs for ride height. I had zero understeer issues. 3rd green light up on the DCCD for loose surface control was bang on👌🏽

    • @warummussmeinnameangegeben6502
      @warummussmeinnameangegeben6502 4 роки тому +1

      Yes, I think hoonigan had a video with Randy Pobst once explaining that Nissan GTR will start to understeer too with heavy front sway bars

    • @flinchy952
      @flinchy952 4 роки тому +3

      @@warummussmeinnameangegeben6502 any car will, sway bars are tuning tools, going too stiff will reduce grip on either axle

    • @designaddict101
      @designaddict101 4 роки тому +1

      Same all the way up to my 2009 WRX Sedan, pushed like a pig in standard form, but really, one bar change away from virtually neutral handling! I think it was their idea of safety or maybe ESC is easier to calibrate for understeer...

    • @markraumer2336
      @markraumer2336 4 роки тому +2

      @Mark Wessley - the early year model WRX were essentially front wheel drive and they need to be real soft up front on the sway bar and real stiff out back - so they can dig into the corners. This does not feel as sporty as the front end feels like it has too much body roll- but the the tyres will grip and turn and the stopwatch will tell the real story. Cant wait to see Marty refine the setup and chop the bloody BR86!

  • @Chaze-yq7ms
    @Chaze-yq7ms 4 роки тому +253

    Call the brz... and hear me out here...
    “Boriz”

  • @lucasross4007
    @lucasross4007 4 роки тому +325

    Brz name: Brazzer
    Keep up the good work Marty and Moog!

  • @IPLayedVR42Long
    @IPLayedVR42Long 4 роки тому +173

    Glad he finally realized how to corner in the BRZ.
    I'm all in for calling her Brazzers lol

    • @toddmccarter45
      @toddmccarter45 4 роки тому +8

      Maybe they can get a new sponsor

    • @vdub5818
      @vdub5818 4 роки тому +1

      You know you want a Bangbaru series😂😆🤣

    • @wasabiwaldo8603
      @wasabiwaldo8603 4 роки тому +1

      Better then Blue Raging Zit

  • @SubaruVideosUK
    @SubaruVideosUK 4 роки тому +13

    Got to agree with the comments here, that STi is understeering WAY too much, especially on turn in. That tyre noise is upsetting 😢
    Get that rear ARB on the stiffer setting, and replace the front top mounts with Whiteline ones for more camber/castor angle.
    Great battle though, love these type of videos by you guys.

    • @acquacow
      @acquacow 4 роки тому +2

      Yup, I would love to know their actual alignment specs. My 2001 GC STI barely understeers these days with 6.6deg of caster and -2.5deg camber. I keep the rear at -1.5 camber and run a 25mm front bar, and 17mm rear bar. I have tons of grip.

  • @junction13pirate
    @junction13pirate 4 роки тому +219

    Such an opening statement, "I am here, now, you are in the internet"
    Yet I am here now and you are in the internet 😵🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯

    • @Bost2301
      @Bost2301 4 роки тому +4

      Woah woah woah, hold on there! I'm here and you are in the internet... And they are also!! But... But... Does that mean I'm also in the internet? Do I exist? Is this the Matrix?
      I think, I have to lay down for a second and let that sink in 🤯😱

    • @poptartmcjelly7054
      @poptartmcjelly7054 4 роки тому +3

      hold up, you mean to tell me that he is there and i am here?
      mind blown

    • @udovdh
      @udovdh 4 роки тому

      Yes, how would they know? :-)

    • @kylejohnson2184
      @kylejohnson2184 4 роки тому

      Wherever I go there I am, and sometimes the internet is as well.

  • @mark89p
    @mark89p 4 роки тому +254

    that other STI coming out of nowhere was like a Ghost Lap!

    • @fredygump5578
      @fredygump5578 4 роки тому +7

      happy Gran Tourismo memories! (Sucks when you have that one killer lap, and can't ever quite match it!)

    • @lilgampla
      @lilgampla 4 роки тому +4

      That was a wrx it belongs to Andrew Hawkins at motive garage

    • @AlvarezAdrian1
      @AlvarezAdrian1 4 роки тому

      This is it guys, this is the one.

    • @lilgampla
      @lilgampla 4 роки тому +1

      @Brad Fuller clearly you do or you wouldn't be so triggered to type that

    • @RedNffc
      @RedNffc 4 роки тому

      Bellllllll

  • @dsmproject95
    @dsmproject95 4 роки тому +26

    BRZ: blue racing zealot. She has no torque, but she has heart.

  • @01gtbdaily30
    @01gtbdaily30 4 роки тому +140

    The only thing I can see Marty doing wrong is with Awd he could just drive straight over the grass in the corners , no need for staying on the pavement .
    This is just a sarcastic joke in case it’s not clear.

    • @WilliamWonka
      @WilliamWonka 4 роки тому +3

      What part of this is a joke to you? Did you even watch the video? This is about LIFE AND DEATH. Marty should have done anything he could to come in ahead of Moog. Crazy that there’s gonna be no more Martin or STI

    • @44caliber100
      @44caliber100 4 роки тому

      Fishing for likes you are

    • @Mini73520
      @Mini73520 4 роки тому

      Oh great dark humour...

  • @breisch1986
    @breisch1986 4 роки тому +96

    4:17 Marty is concentrating so hard he's entered the Rowan Atkinson zone.

    • @kalus1019
      @kalus1019 4 роки тому +3

      I thought it was just me hahaha

    • @AlphaAce15
      @AlphaAce15 4 роки тому +4

      Can this be posted in r/rareinsults ?

    • @poptartmcjelly7054
      @poptartmcjelly7054 4 роки тому +2

      @@AlphaAce15 wdym this is a praise not an insult

    • @Globeglider
      @Globeglider 4 роки тому +1

      Rowan Atkinson is a great driver too!

    • @mojojoji5493
      @mojojoji5493 4 роки тому

      Hardest roast ever

  • @TheCarJesus
    @TheCarJesus 4 роки тому +84

    I hear if you call a car Eleanor then it magically disappears. That would be a cool trick.

    • @YeeThirty
      @YeeThirty 4 роки тому

      Lol done

    • @ajangalbo
      @ajangalbo 4 роки тому +3

      Its not a mustang tho

    • @YeeThirty
      @YeeThirty 4 роки тому

      @@ajangalbo was still funny tho

    • @ajangalbo
      @ajangalbo 4 роки тому

      @@YeeThirty ya right i agree hahaba

  • @aDaWaN
    @aDaWaN 4 роки тому +36

    The DCCD centre diff in the STi has a 65R/35F torque split when open. This means: the looser the diff, the more oversteer. When fully locked the diff is 50F/50R, the same as a WRX (non-STI). This might be counter intuitive at first. On dry asphalt you use the diff full loose (more oversteer for rotation) and on snow/gravel you can set the diff to full lock (more balance / understeer).

    • @CatTerrist
      @CatTerrist 4 роки тому +4

      THATS NOT HOW THE DCCD WORKS
      The F/R is 41:59 or 35:65 depending on year, the better ones are 41:59, full stop end of story. It is MECHANICAL and can never change. Do not make this common mistake in understanding how it all works
      The diff is NEVER completely locked, it still can slip - it just takes a lot more force to do so. The diff going tighter only disallows differences in F/R rotation. And TBH the diff being open just makes it easier to drive - The diff locked can be oversteer city if you throw it in hard enough even on tarmac.

  • @youtubeuseronalot6376
    @youtubeuseronalot6376 4 роки тому +109

    Marty fit a higher ratio steering rack from a bug, blob, hawkeye sti 2.5 turns lock to lock or the type RA 2.25 turn lock to lock , all fits night & day improvement only thing needs modified is steering coupling 1/2 gc8 1/2 New age or swap steering column from New age steering rack pipes may need a slight bend best mod U can do for feel .... also try rear auto roll away bar stiffer or front looser to kill understeer, camber plates swapped sides to give more caster 👍

    • @tasty8186
      @tasty8186 4 роки тому +5

      Replying so hopefully the boys see this

    • @adamryd95
      @adamryd95 4 роки тому

      Great tip

    • @pelagicsky
      @pelagicsky 4 роки тому +2

      Look at you being helpful. What has UA-cam come to. :)

    • @johnwiles4661
      @johnwiles4661 4 роки тому

      Any mk4 legacy racks that are quicker than others?

  • @korbennunn9460
    @korbennunn9460 4 роки тому +2

    Always make me smile, when watching your video, and I will be watching them when im in hospital on the 2nd to get me through my recovery from my operation ❤

  • @aaronl4036
    @aaronl4036 4 роки тому +156

    Marty, get some camber plates for the front and dial in some negative camber. It will vastly improve the front end bite. Cheers.

    • @subarubuildz1738
      @subarubuildz1738 4 роки тому

      Also coilovers!

    • @spicysinglecam
      @spicysinglecam 4 роки тому

      A little toe out would help with turn in also. But that's just the drift kid in me talking

    • @declanrobinson6624
      @declanrobinson6624 4 роки тому +2

      Tom Armstrong I daily drive a 06 wrx with some slight camber dialed in and as long as it’s not stupid it doesn’t really affect it, daily driven both stock and with coil overs and camber but tbh it isn’t too hard to just add camber on the day either with coilovers for the track, however I just leave the camber on for both as it helps with some spirited driving, I would only suggest going to around -1.5/2.5 degrees though (for the 06’s anyway)

    • @tjreeve9024
      @tjreeve9024 4 роки тому

      Or add some caster

    • @mat5267
      @mat5267 4 роки тому

      See earlier episodes....

  • @mickebjorkman7517
    @mickebjorkman7517 4 роки тому +178

    ”BäRZ” is swedish slang for beer. Come on. You are australian after all. Just like the BRZ, beer is impossible not to love. Plus it has ümlauts. Ümlauts god damnit!

    • @GustavBrogren
      @GustavBrogren 4 роки тому +3

      Sounds great! That ä is pronounced the way you would pronounce a in the word ban (banned).

    • @michaelandersson6088
      @michaelandersson6088 4 роки тому

      Epic! :)

    • @broke123
      @broke123 4 роки тому +2

      @@GustavBrogren So like "bears"? So to speak?

    • @hampusj6047
      @hampusj6047 4 роки тому +2

      Forty no like bäsh/bärs

  • @doncosner2611
    @doncosner2611 4 роки тому +2

    Moog did an awesome job pushing that BRZ to it's limits! Marty had the advantage on the strait shots for sure but it looked like both of you were really having a good time! Great video as always!

  • @o0bananaman0o
    @o0bananaman0o 4 роки тому +455

    BRZ: Brazzers
    because its pure pr0n
    and Brazzers vs STI just sounds funny

    • @robinsyrett9315
      @robinsyrett9315 4 роки тому +6

      How about Porn Car/Porn Star? “Porn Star catches STI” 😂

    • @poptartmcjelly7054
      @poptartmcjelly7054 4 роки тому +14

      "brazzers" doesn't have enough vegemite in it.
      Should call it Brazza'.

    • @ericdraven234
      @ericdraven234 4 роки тому

      I was going to make a suggestion, but this one just wins

    • @digital_mindmeld
      @digital_mindmeld 4 роки тому +1

      fck im late

  • @JesseSpec
    @JesseSpec 4 роки тому +2

    Awesome video! You guys are really a good example of what a Car UA-cam Channel should be about! Also, never underestimate lower powered cars!

  • @fast98gtp
    @fast98gtp 4 роки тому +145

    Brz: BLUE BALLS.
    It always leaves you wanting more.

    • @The_One_Over_There
      @The_One_Over_There 4 роки тому +9

      Blue Ball-Z ?

    • @druscanam
      @druscanam 4 роки тому

      Pretty sure it's BRZ, you know with an R and a Z in the name, not a BB whatever that is 🤔

    • @ElkinsEric
      @ElkinsEric 4 роки тому +5

      Blue Ragin Ballz?

  • @harry9959
    @harry9959 4 роки тому +85

    Martin , if you're still struggling with understeer into the corners at slower speeds you could be taking the apex too early. Especially with your awd power advantage you want to hit the apex late and power out early xx

    • @NextGenTrucker23
      @NextGenTrucker23 4 роки тому +9

      Hes forcing the car through turns, instead of finding the flow through a turn.

    • @NextGenTrucker23
      @NextGenTrucker23 4 роки тому +1

      Although if he forces it hard enough he may be losing time, but the car sure fights it.

    • @JLneonhug
      @JLneonhug 4 роки тому +7

      Yeah I agree, if you look at later part of your video you tend to hit apex at theorical middle. Where it should be later 3/4 of the corner (late apex) ideally, so you get a longer run on the straight (you can also trail brake to adjust balance).
      It would help with accuracy if you kept your hands on the steering wheel more and less feeding as if your parking the car. It's much harder to find centre and smooth transition back to straight if you feed the wheel like that.
      Have fun! Can't wait for the brz upgrade!

    • @2JRaz
      @2JRaz 4 роки тому

      Also He may want to try double clutching to let the synchros in the transmission not wear out.

    • @Neishy4AGTE
      @Neishy4AGTE 4 роки тому

      @@2JRaz most people that double clutch do it wrong and wear them anyway with slower shifts, may as well just use the things as intended.

  • @michaelblacktree
    @michaelblacktree 4 роки тому +22

    "Good job, Subaru or Toyota... or whoever made this car."
    hehe 😄

  • @glensgraphix
    @glensgraphix 4 роки тому +52

    Marty found his razor! Moog talked almost the whole way through that even after saying there'd be no talking. Hilarious.

    • @johnwiles4661
      @johnwiles4661 4 роки тому

      Don't think he can help it. 😅 We wouldn't have them any other way though ay?

    • @leemonk4073
      @leemonk4073 4 роки тому

      I think it's easyer driving an all wheel drive in this surcomstance so I would give it to moog

  • @None-kv7sd
    @None-kv7sd 4 роки тому +127

    11:25 "I own a BRZ and I chopped a Corolla once bahaha H E A D G A S K E T"
    -Moog 2020

  • @benfranklin9156
    @benfranklin9156 4 роки тому

    Gentlemen, under Covid lockdown here in Northern California,. Your antics were much fun to watch. The only road fun I get is driving my 2019 WRX w/stick to the grocery store. Great to hear and see you play with those corners. Yep, those big (heavy) Dodges, Mercedes, Mustangs etc. take me on the straight. I leave them far behind after a curve. Light, small and quick is good. You both got fun cars!

  • @kelfrank4166
    @kelfrank4166 4 роки тому +53

    Can Moog drive the Impreza and Marty drive the BRZ then compare times again?

  • @darrenlyddieth5770
    @darrenlyddieth5770 4 роки тому +15

    2:28 Legit thought Moog was gunna start singing "A Thousand Miles" right there, car racing and Moog covers? AWSOME.

  • @mrmcbeardy9268
    @mrmcbeardy9268 4 роки тому +2

    Some tidy driving fellas. Nice to see Moog getting his assettiveness out with an STI up his butt. Nothing like a bit of pressure to improve performance. As for corners, you'll find the following little gem in classic racing analogies: "Mouse in, Lion out". 👌

  • @BadDFWDrivers
    @BadDFWDrivers 4 роки тому +28

    One thing I noticed Marty, is that when you get understeer, you sometimes add even more angle to the wheel. From what I understand, you're already turning as much as possible and if you go further you actually turn even worse. Something to do with contact patch I believe.

    • @TG22222
      @TG22222 4 роки тому +5

      Correct, I believe that's why when you watch actual races, they keep turning the wheel back and forth, when on the edge to try and get a better contact patch.

    • @ikbendusan
      @ikbendusan 4 роки тому +4

      it's to do with coeffecient of friction, once the tyre starts sliding the coefficient goes down and you have less grip

    • @tricd0444
      @tricd0444 4 роки тому +8

      The thing that AWD/4WD excels in is straight line acceleration. With the proper setup, you can trail brake to get the rear to turn around, slide through the last 1/3 of the turn, and get on the power WAY earlier than a RWD can.The effect will be much more prominent on cold or street tires, much the same reason that a FWD will ruin a RWD in a short circuit track, considering same tires and same power.
      The WRX needs the right suspension/diff setup, and a bunch of seat time tweaking settings to make it just right, tires not in consideration, to make the time difference between the BRZ. However, on a tarmac track, the BRZ would also greatly benefit from a bit more seat time, and tires that weren't almost scrubbing. Suspension could use a bit of work and take that away.
      Would DEFINITELY enjoy a seat swap, and see how Marty does in the BRZ, as well as Moog in the STI. Marty might get used to the BRZ's RWD configuration a lot quicker than Moog will figure out how to thrash the STI.

    • @reecedrury4145
      @reecedrury4145 4 роки тому +5

      In advance driving/skid control I was taught that in an understeering condition to as someone has touched on above, to steer out of it and back into it, multiple times until you get the grip

    • @Henryduk
      @Henryduk 4 роки тому +1

      This is down to how the tyre react to whats called the "slip angle", the angle between the direction the tyre is moving, and the direction the tyre is being steered to ( en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slip_angle ). All tyres gain grip with increasing slip angle until it reaches a peak, then it starts to drop until it hits a steady value (see the second diagram down on the wikipedia page). On top of this, since the cornering grip of a tyre is perpendicular to the steered angle, as you steer the wheel more, the amount of torque the tyre can give to the car to turn it goes down (imagine trying to pull a door handle standing near the hinge as compared to by the handle). So once the car is understeering, if you steer more, the tyres are giving less grip and the grip they have got is doing less work trying to turn the car.

  • @IIAdaMll
    @IIAdaMll 4 роки тому +11

    When the motive wrx showed up, that was nice.

  • @Jacedives
    @Jacedives 4 роки тому +24

    I get the feeling that the STI has a very scuffed suspension setup. Never seen a car squeel and scrape with such minor turn in. I'd love to see a professional get behind the wheel and diagnose the issues

    • @t3hdoct3r
      @t3hdoct3r 4 роки тому +1

      "Yep, just throw the whole car away"

  • @vmfan96
    @vmfan96 4 роки тому +7

    This has got to be my favourite series right here. Love the sound of the STI exhaust.

  • @vmfan96
    @vmfan96 4 роки тому +1

    This video and the other track battle is proof to all that say BRZ isn’t a real car or is slow. I love my 2013 BRZ and the engagement you feel driving it. Just look at the grin on Moogs face. That is literally me every time I drive.
    I have the necessary basic boltons UEL Header, Perrin Intake Pipe, OFT tune and light wheels RPF1 (16lbs), Tien coilovers.
    I have driven Porsche 911 997, 991.2 , Lambo, Huracan, BMW M4, GTI, WRX, Miata, and for the price used BRZ is the answer for me.

  • @Undercovergrandma396
    @Undercovergrandma396 4 роки тому +32

    2:28 100% thought Moog was going to give us a rendition of 1000 Miles by Vanessa Carlton.

  • @DirtyEars
    @DirtyEars 4 роки тому +96

    When Moog knocked on the "real BRZ", he almost got me. But I remembered that they are sound engineers and could have added that PERFECTLY in post. #FakeBRZ #BRZGate #SoundConspiracy

  • @jhonelmarania7094
    @jhonelmarania7094 4 роки тому +11

    Name the BRZ “breezy” haha it would be hilarious with pun intended 😂

  • @EvoBeard
    @EvoBeard 4 роки тому +42

    Moog: "You don't wanna look just where you're going, you wanna look AHEAD as well"
    ~ Pro tips for driving in reverse.

  • @autocrossaholic
    @autocrossaholic 4 роки тому +37

    Tip to avoiding hemorrhoids: never bear down fully, ease into the seat and relax

  • @93GrayWolf93
    @93GrayWolf93 4 роки тому +2

    Love watching the boys actually using themselves.
    MOOG. Final corner should be as late an apex as you can to maximise the straight line speed. So opposite to what you're doing in this vid.
    MARTY. you wanna take off some speed and reduce lock until the screaming stops from your front tyres. That's just burning rubber not helping turn in. If you leave your DCCD in auto try being heavy on the throttle them moment you notice your hands start to reduce steering lock.

  • @alexfata8190
    @alexfata8190 4 роки тому +38

    Came to watch STI VS BRZ, the second I saw the MR2 that's all I cared about. GO LITTLE SHITBOX GO!

  • @icecubes_for_the_boiling_frogs
    @icecubes_for_the_boiling_frogs 4 роки тому +71

    Martin would be unstoppable if he learned the art of left foot braking in his awd sti...

    • @nikoprather
      @nikoprather 4 роки тому +4

      And got a bigger rear bar and/or smaller front one

    • @MrSlowestD16
      @MrSlowestD16 4 роки тому +1

      I think he more-so needs a bigger rear sway to pull that rear end around.

    • @icecubes_for_the_boiling_frogs
      @icecubes_for_the_boiling_frogs 4 роки тому +3

      They already put in bigger sway bars. He said he didn't want to go bigger because he still wants to street the car.

    • @Pinyoo81
      @Pinyoo81 4 роки тому +1

      Thinner front bar would reduce understeer a lot. Shouldn't have gone thicher in the front.

    • @Pinyoo81
      @Pinyoo81 4 роки тому +1

      Or just try a 3 series BMW and he'll never go back to jdm...

  • @hawkertyphoon4537
    @hawkertyphoon4537 4 роки тому

    Aha! Quite a few lessons to be learned here.
    Filming each other (moog being filmed while he comments his own driving...) and marty's headcam showing where he is looking at a given moment (eyes tracking)
    Good game on switching places. The BRZ needs a bit , just a tiny bit moore "OOOMPH" to move away.
    Awesome Commentary as well!

  • @beyondmaintenance
    @beyondmaintenance 4 роки тому +41

    Prounounce it “Breezy”.

  • @fedeperezko
    @fedeperezko 4 роки тому +30

    I see More agressive driving from Marty. I Like that... a lot

    • @user-fl1jv9cv7z
      @user-fl1jv9cv7z 4 роки тому

      Same here. It's got my bwalls all moist n stuff

  • @hotshot8207
    @hotshot8207 4 роки тому

    Great Run Guys!! It was a real pleasure watching you two compete as friends and having a good time!! Thank You

  • @kennethjackson7958
    @kennethjackson7958 4 роки тому +11

    I’m literally watching the oil catch can install and then ping ! New vid!!! Let’s go

  • @ninjabrad
    @ninjabrad 4 роки тому +44

    BRZ name: Back Road Zombie, because it really comes to life in the twisty's!

  • @slydweis
    @slydweis 4 роки тому

    Thanks for the shoutout! @10:57

  • @PPaauullyyVV
    @PPaauullyyVV 4 роки тому +60

    BRZ eh sounds like like a blue raspberry zebra to me, it's just missing a good old zebra stripe wrap for the ultimate disrespect.

    • @EXP6
      @EXP6 4 роки тому +1

      Lol was just thinking BRZ Blue Racing Zebra and saw your comment. Lol

    • @AxxLAfriku
      @AxxLAfriku 4 роки тому

      I have a big... BIG... BIIIIGGGGG... muscles!!! HAHAHA!!! What did you think I was going for? That's so DIRTY of you! GAGAGAGA!!! I am the funniest UA-camr ever! Maybe that's the reason why I have TWO (!!!) HOT (!) GIRLFRIENDS. Thanks for being alive, dear buzz

    • @Sun-ut9gr
      @Sun-ut9gr 4 роки тому +1

      @@AxxLAfriku Plot twist: the girlfriends are your hands.
      Actually, is it a plot twist if it's real life?

    • @travischristensen746
      @travischristensen746 4 роки тому

      aww nice, i was thinking Blurry Racing Zebra

    • @travischristensen746
      @travischristensen746 4 роки тому

      @@EXP6 i though the same thing lol

  • @andrewchudyk8518
    @andrewchudyk8518 4 роки тому +19

    It'll be a different story once you get that blower fitted, Moog.

  • @boneydupree9727
    @boneydupree9727 4 роки тому +57

    BRZ: Billy Ray Zyrus........Like Billy Ray Cyrus..."Dont break my heart, my achy breaky heart"
    you can also wear a mullet when driving/racing/wrenching. lmao

    • @JakRabbitNick
      @JakRabbitNick 4 роки тому

      Boney Dupree Literally commented this 12 hours before you lol and have less likes.

    • @mrperfect7969
      @mrperfect7969 4 роки тому

      Nick Carter why does it matter?

    • @rya3190
      @rya3190 4 роки тому

      @@mrperfect7969 "credit where credit is due" or something like that

  • @GhostPoetCrow
    @GhostPoetCrow 4 роки тому +22

    “Blair’s Rakish Zeal” 😂 That’s a fruitful name for ya

  • @vevohoeyo
    @vevohoeyo 4 роки тому +45

    Some serious grip issues with the sti
    Its squealing at even the slightest turn

    • @Mooza1
      @Mooza1 4 роки тому

      Yeah, there is definitely something wrong there.

    • @jarrodflood1353
      @jarrodflood1353 4 роки тому +2

      @ChrisHallett83 that shitbox wrx is also on a crazy tyre compared to michilien pilot sport 4's. Also raced a full season to get the car set up to where it is now

  • @KevskiStyle
    @KevskiStyle 4 роки тому +16

    1:28 : "Look at that thing". Thats a series 1 Fiat 127 and I want to know more about that specific car in the video!?

    • @bernd2244
      @bernd2244 4 роки тому +3

      came here for this. Yes, yes it is. Awesome.

    • @MDM242
      @MDM242 4 роки тому +3

      Instantly recognized it... My father used to drive one... first car i remember us owning

    • @Fictionkite
      @Fictionkite 4 роки тому +2

      My first car was a 127 sport.... I left it up a tree

    • @PitufinVeloz
      @PitufinVeloz 4 роки тому +2

      Me too came here for this. Was totally bamboozled to see a Fiat 127 in Australia. My parents bought a SEAT 127 in Spain when I was 6 years old.Owned one by myself when I was in my mid twenties. Fun little nuggets...

    • @FreshAireCarpetCleaning
      @FreshAireCarpetCleaning 4 роки тому

      Members of the Fiat Club of NSW

  • @scuffedpickles8902
    @scuffedpickles8902 4 роки тому +16

    Marty might wanna decrease tire pressure with those stiff sway bars because the car might want some body roll

  • @Neishy4AGTE
    @Neishy4AGTE 4 роки тому +7

    How was Moogs braking drift, kept the line and everything that was nice. Keichi Tsuchiya would be proud.

  • @chrispietersen804
    @chrispietersen804 4 роки тому

    Mr Marty, not sure what alignment you running but there are a few free tweaks you can try to help the under-stear situation. For the front: Run more toe out, try adding 0.2 (It will help turn in at the cost of stability), Softer front suspension, lower tyre pressures upfront (try 2 - 3 psi incremental), not too sure if you have front sway bar but going softer upfront will keep more tyre on the ground also run 2 - 2.5 degree camber. For the rear, do the opposite, Run toe in, adding 0.2 (having the wheels in opposite direction to the front will aid turn in), Harder rear suspension (It will break traction easier-ish) Higher rear tyre pressure (2 - 3 psi incremental), rear sway bar you want to stiffen up, keep the camber the same at the rear. Hope this helps buddy but you should see quite the difference. Love the show, Keep up the great work!

  • @weaksignal8009
    @weaksignal8009 4 роки тому +12

    Marty needs a driving day with Bunta' to learn the Sti....

  • @craigfjay
    @craigfjay 4 роки тому +6

    BRZ is the airport code for a place in Ivory Coast called Borotou, how’s that for a name?

    • @mattisasleep1969
      @mattisasleep1969 4 роки тому

      This. I really like this one. Well suggested my dude

  • @allynj2272
    @allynj2272 4 роки тому

    You guys are awesome and produce some amazing content! Don't ever let the haters get you down or discouraged.

  • @rhkips
    @rhkips 4 роки тому +31

    Marty:
    I'm watching a UA-cam video, not driving the car or experiencing the track, so I'm not going to tell you I know what's going on. But having experienced a similar situation, I'm curious if you could inexpensively/DIY modify your understeer situation by running factory sway bar in the front, uprated aftermarket in the rear. Heck, that could be a series on its own: Playing around with blending OEM and modification to change a car's dynamics. :D
    Fun race, guys! I enjoyed watching that. Happy weekend!

    • @TheCrazyBird844
      @TheCrazyBird844 4 роки тому +2

      There’s really expensive ways to fix understeer in Subarus and then there’s the way everyone else does it; tight rear loose front. (Lol)

    • @mouldy5156
      @mouldy5156 4 роки тому +1

      a beefy rear would do more than a front swaybar could do by quite a margin. this is the experience i have.

    • @hagglundguy
      @hagglundguy 4 роки тому

      If I remember correctly he already has adjustable sway bars in the STI. He could put the rear on in a bit more stiffer setting and hit a few laps. If that alone does not satisfy the front could be loosened a notch.
      I've heard the STIs are understeer heavy and when they were rallied the drivers always trail braked their car mid corner to put weight on the front and introduce just a little oversteer. This also happens to be exactly what adjustable sway bars are for.

  • @matthewf1979
    @matthewf1979 4 роки тому +36

    Moog needs to learn the pedal dance to turn off the ABS and traction control completely.

    • @mightycarmods
      @mightycarmods  4 роки тому +47

      I know the pedal dance - but in VSC Sport I’ve never noticed it any negative effect as it actually lets you get quite sideways before kicking in (more sideways than you’d want for a fast lap)

    • @KTWA
      @KTWA 4 роки тому +10

      Mighty Car Mods he replied POGGERS

    • @JoeWuhPuh
      @JoeWuhPuh 4 роки тому +2

      @@KTWA I really want Marty or Moog to say Poggers for some reason

    • @Zakkday
      @Zakkday 4 роки тому +2

      pedal dance also has the possibility of bricking the ecu mid-drive which cuts off your electronic steering. 💀

    • @StraightEdgeZap
      @StraightEdgeZap 4 роки тому +2

      @@mightycarmods newer brzs replaced vsc with track mode which is slightly improved for track use as i understand it. i wonder if its something you could update in that older brz

  • @nutsnproud6932
    @nutsnproud6932 4 роки тому

    Thanks for letting me be a virtual passenger. It was fun to watch.

  • @ClayWeber
    @ClayWeber 4 роки тому +39

    Brz name:
    Barely Reaches Zoom

  • @BorisAus
    @BorisAus 4 роки тому +5

    8:21 pretty sure that is Andrew hawkins from motive DVD in that other subaru

  • @Dji9590
    @Dji9590 4 роки тому

    Awsome guys, this face off is realy what i like at this this point of both cars, thx for great content !

  • @steifan
    @steifan 4 роки тому +10

    You should do a track battle with Speed Academy in the future in some way, would be fun xD (and far away...)

  • @jetr332
    @jetr332 4 роки тому +7

    Has to be called “Bruiser” cause it keeps bruising the rexy ego 🤣

  • @MrStuwr250f
    @MrStuwr250f 4 роки тому

    Thanks boys. So, so good to see project cars getting driven properly. Sounded epic, knew the Sti would but didn’t think the BRZ could sound so good. 🤘🏻

  • @ChristopherOvrebo
    @ChristopherOvrebo 4 роки тому +28

    "Bum Rattling Zinger"

  • @HepauDK
    @HepauDK 4 роки тому +5

    "All 4 tires are complaining about it"
    If they didn't, you wouldn't be driving fast enough. ;)

  • @AtrociousNightmare
    @AtrociousNightmare 4 роки тому

    Love these videos! The times are so close! Crazy. What's crazier is that the temps didn't go up all day :O that's quality.
    Can't wait for you to alter all that with a big snail

  • @1Jprios
    @1Jprios 4 роки тому +16

    BRZ: Brazzers!! Best name Ever!

  • @tugstanboat779
    @tugstanboat779 4 роки тому +28

    I can hardly wait to see that K24 swap!

  • @masterjdm101
    @masterjdm101 4 роки тому

    BoxRipZ
    You guys are awesome. Keep up the awesome content.

  • @TheMrericmichel
    @TheMrericmichel 4 роки тому +4

    +Mighty Car Mods It's gotta be Bruce, Bruce the BrZ. And Marty's car, Sheila, the STI ;)

  • @TastierBackInThe80s
    @TastierBackInThe80s 4 роки тому +13

    Moog:"I passed a Corolla once..."
    Everyone:While you were in a Corolla.

  • @parptarf
    @parptarf 4 роки тому +1

    The more I see that BRZ going all out, the more I want one. What a mad car!

  • @TheJohnJohn741
    @TheJohnJohn741 4 роки тому +15

    wait, did i miss the turbo install, or did they literally only just put in the new clutch and race again?

    • @promethbastard
      @promethbastard 4 роки тому +1

      Clutch and race - or this was pre-clutch.

    • @imm8637
      @imm8637 4 роки тому

      This is after clutch

    • @poptartmcjelly7054
      @poptartmcjelly7054 4 роки тому +2

      what's wrong with that?

    • @imm8637
      @imm8637 4 роки тому

      Poptart McJelly, with racing the car just after a clutch upgrade? Nothing wrong! It’s awesome to upgrade a car little by little and see what each individual change does to the car dynamics.

    • @graumail
      @graumail 4 роки тому +1

      We already knew the STI would need a LOT of upgrades to compete with the BRZ once the turbo was installed. Now we know it might need quite a bit because Moog is about to drop an extra 100KW in the car that’s already faster.

  • @alexcoupe.
    @alexcoupe. 4 роки тому +19

    All these PlayStation racers telling you guys how to set up your cars and how to drive 🤣🤣🤣

    • @leemonk4073
      @leemonk4073 4 роки тому +1

      But grand turismo is the best driving game of its time

    • @HarryG98
      @HarryG98 4 роки тому

      lee monk still doesn’t compare to the real world and this is coming from someone’s who’s played gt3 all the way to sport it’s nothing like real life fast driving

  • @paulcollins1322
    @paulcollins1322 4 роки тому

    Here for the music and content. Mighty Car Mods Awesome as always

  • @prophetpat8327
    @prophetpat8327 4 роки тому +29

    BRZ: Blue Rough Zucchini, for Cheryls pleasure.

  • @KamikazeDigital
    @KamikazeDigital 4 роки тому +4

    I got the name! Put the turbo in and call it BRRRRRRRRZUUUZUUZUU
    Also I hope you guys never stop racing each other, that way we all win.

  • @LimeSupra
    @LimeSupra 4 роки тому

    Hey dudes. I have been watching you guys for several years now. Im usually a watcher and click the next video but I wanted to show some support to you guys for your awesome effort in making great content. Missed out on your last poster, bummed! Thats okay.

  • @GB-sg9mi
    @GB-sg9mi 4 роки тому +4

    BRZ - Boosted Rapid Zoomer - for when it’s turbo’d!! 😁🤗

  • @TheFurtada
    @TheFurtada 4 роки тому +4

    Sounds like someone has some 'fender rub' going on!!

  • @A88A88
    @A88A88 4 роки тому

    smiling all the way through this video! great work as always

  • @HighTowerOG
    @HighTowerOG 4 роки тому +14

    BBBBRRRRRZZZZZZTOOOTOOOTOOOO
    Meaning it needs a turbo.

  • @GriffkinPT
    @GriffkinPT 4 роки тому +8

    "That thing" is a Fiat 127 :)

    • @JahKnow_z
      @JahKnow_z 4 роки тому

      A really tasty one, actually!

  • @theautobotmechanic419
    @theautobotmechanic419 4 роки тому +1

    Brilliant
    Racing
    Zoid

  • @obsessivemedia
    @obsessivemedia 4 роки тому +4

    7:27 a wild andrew halkins appears 👀

  • @joelbowness54
    @joelbowness54 4 роки тому +12

    BRZ - Boost Requires Zipties? (MCM Zipties)👍🏻

  • @etiennebelanger8644
    @etiennebelanger8644 4 роки тому

    This race was SO EXCITING 😳😀 Thank you so much for sharing this bucket list moment imo

  • @LucaG1
    @LucaG1 4 роки тому +3

    Marty's WRX sounds worse going around corners than my NA Forester around that track a few weeks ago

  • @kandlrex
    @kandlrex 4 роки тому +12

    “Which one would you buy?” I would buy a 4 door wrx and have the same amount of fun as the 2 door sti for a fraction of the price, and chop BRZ’s all day 🤷‍♂️

    • @Alex-wb2yw
      @Alex-wb2yw 4 роки тому +1

      4 doors have a stiffer chassis as well

    • @nomoney4206
      @nomoney4206 4 роки тому +1

      It’s a shame they won’t just turbo the brz out of the factory it looks so much better than the wrx but then the wrx would be discontinued and I would actually be willing to buy a Subaru

    • @Rawnfella
      @Rawnfella 4 роки тому

      Or for the same price get a Golf and chop WRX’s all day 🤷‍♀️