DO NOT START A COFFEE ROASTERY - Until...
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- Опубліковано 9 січ 2020
- Have you ever wanted to start a Coffee roasting business? Well, don’t, until you do these three things first!
• Create a long runway for your business.
• Calculate what all your costs are going to be and forecast out.
• Cup the hell out of coffee and get proficient at it.
Starting a coffee roaster can be very stressful and time-consuming! In this video, I cover the top three things that would have really helped make the startup process easier. Like any business, there will always be ongoing issues and things to learn. Let me know in the comments below if you have gone through something similar. Would love to hear your stories!
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LOVE this video. This is very helpful as we are getting started with our Coffee Company this year.
oohhh boy yall are about to have a good time! lol It is hard getting everything off the ground but so enjoyable. You will not regret it. Keep me posted on your progress. Would love to check it out once you get it up. Thanks for watching buddy!
Rob Pirie - Cedar Ota Coffee There are a lot of great recipes for Aeropress on UA-cam. Easy to make a great cup.
@@paulhodge855 Oh ya! UA-cam definelty has most things covered. That is another reason I am holding off because I am trying to find what I can add that is different. I may literally have to resort to environmental testing it or something. lol IDK.
Rob Pirie - Cedar Ota Coffee You may not add anything new to UA-cam, but you may expose your subscribers to something new.
@@paulhodge855 Great way to think about it man! Very good point!
I'm a bottom of the ladder home roaster who has no intention of starting a business but I like coffee and I like your videos. Thanks!
Well thanks Toby!! I’m happy to hear that man. Ya the business route isn’t for everyone. Heck I sure as hell haven’t figured it out. But like I rationalized to my wife when I got my roaster. Worst case scenario I just roast my own coffee for the next 20 years and save money! Haha thanks again for watching my friend and have a blessed new year!
Love your videos Rob! Thanks for your insight :).
Love seeing your progress!!! Great video.
Thank you so much DEE! Truly appreciate it. I have had a little help from my wife on a few things so that has been helpful!
Love your videos!! Thank you!
Thanks for watching!
On point with everything you said & then some. I have no life, as a one man show with two wholesale accounts ( so blessed to have them ) ordering every Monday for Friday delivery I cant take a vacation. Breakdowns, hurdles, etc etc...shake it off & press forward. a door closes you open another one. once you've tried everything & no more doors are opening...thats when you roll up your sleeves & get to work lol. Great videos Rob, Thanks for the follow on IG.
Glad you enjoyed the video buddy! Ya, it is definitely tough for sure. I view it as a long ultra run. It sucks sometimes, you are going to hurt, your mind is going to try and convince you to quit but if you can press on... crossing that finish line will feel all the better. Good luck brother and continue to sling open those doors and enter in! haha Thanks for watching my friend!
So glad I found your videos. I look fwd to learning more from you.
Thank you so much Terri! I truly appreciate that. I am uploading a video today on how to get into coffee roasting so if you are pretty new to it you may find it very helpful! Again, thanks for watching. Have a wonderful week and stay safe!
Got me motivated this morning. Needed that! 🙏
Heck yea! Happy to do what I can to motivate and get the ball rolling. Appreciate you watching!
Awesome video and great perspective on how to start & grow a roasting business. cant wait for more info!
Thanks so much Troy! I truly appreciate that. I have a few things in the line up. This Covid thing has me thrown off a bit but I have a couple videos I am hoping to get out in the next week or so. Have you been roasting long?
thanks for making learning fun! Your personality and wit really show!
I already like this channel then you started dropping the judah and the lion and I subbed right away. Love those guys and this channel. Keep up the good work!
Thank you Rob for the info. The information is very helpful.
Great to hear my friend. Really glad it was helpful. Hit me up with any questions.
Omw that was so much fun to watch, takes the heaviness out of thinking alot when all the thinking is crammed with laughs, thanks Rob! Subbed!
Haha thanks so much for watching my friend and glad I could make you laugh. You planning on getting into roasting or have you started?
Man what a great video. You have that perfect combination of entertaining and informative. Thanks dude!
Haha thanks so much buddy! Glad to hear that! Truly appreciate you checking it out and hit me up with any questions!
Watched the video in two parts :) finished today! awesome video dude, one of a kind Keep doing what you doing and keep sharing your knowledge, it's very helpful
Great to hear man! Glad it was helpful! That makes it all worth it creating these videos. You just getting into roasting or have you been roasting awhile?
Love This! @LightHausCoffee in year 4. I agree and I also know where I need to learn and grow. The Cupping is something I let slack as well. But I look forward to your video on Cupping!
Appreciate it buddy! Just looked up Light Haus Coffee and you got a nice little thing going on! Super cool. The cupping video will definitely be happening. Best wishes in 2020 with it all!
Rob!! Awesome video. Few things I had no idea that I had to think about. Saved us a bunch of time. U da Man U daaaaa man!!! Thanks a bunch!
No problem my friend! Truly glad it was helpful. Let me know if you have any questions. Thanks for watching buddy!
Thanks for the info! I'm in the process of researching a DIY roaster and a small coffee business and these are great pointers!
No problem at all Cyrus! Truly glad you found them helpful. Best of luck on your journey and hit me up with any questions. Thanks for watching!
You are awesome!!!! Most people view this stuff as "trade secrets" and would never dream of helping others, especially others who could be their competition. You are one great person.
Well thank you so much!! I truly appreciate that! I figure if it helps anyone save time or money then I might as well share it. Haha truly appreciate you checking out my video and hit me up with any questions!
Love the advise!
"Thanks Todd" glad it was well received. Truly appreciate the view.
awesome vids man, wish you loads of success!
Much appreciated again my friend! Putting a plan together this week now that I am moved to hep be more consistent. Thanks again!
Y’all Rock!
Thoroughly enjoying the videos dude. Keep up the good work.
Truly appreciate you checking them out buddy and hope they are helpful! Do you have a roaster yet or just getting started?
@@RobPirieCedarOtaCoffee I'm just getting started with coffee in general. I picked up an entry level machine to cut my teeth on which has been really enjoyable.
A colleague at work who used to have a couple of cafes knows a lot of roasters and suggested I try it for myself. I've been taken with the idea ever since he mentioned it.
What I do need to start with is cupping though and work up from there.
Glad I found your channel man, it's been an invaluable resource.
Man I truly appreciate hearing that! Glad it’s been helpful. What type of roaster did you get?
Love the passion, intelligence and personality you share Rob. Appreciate the transparency and excited to start cupping some coffee as I stare down this long runway ;)
Thanks so much man! I really appreciate the kind words. It is definitely a fun journey and the more you learn the gunner it gets! Good luck my friend and hit me up with any questions.
Really great videos!!!
Thanks so much! Truly appreciate you watching!
Thanks Rob for sharing this, I really appreciate all your time and effort on the videos you made. This is very useful for me because I in am in the process to develop my own business plan.
Nice to hear Fernando! It is truly a fun rabbit hole to go down so I am glad this video was able to help some. Where are you planning to starting your business at? Keep me posted on your progress buddy and hit me up with any questions. Thanks so much for watching!
@@RobPirieCedarOtaCoffee I am planning to open my Coffee Roastery in Mexico, for sure I will keep you updated of my progress!
That's right! What part of Mexico again?
Just finding this guy. Where has he been all of my life hahaha. These are some great points. I wish someone would have told all of this before I started as well
Haha thanks so much buddy! Glad you enjoyed the video! Hopefully I can abide by them more this second time around! Haha thanks for watching buddy!
White Table Cloth and a Chemex...
This ol' boy has Class!!!!
Ya it was kind of a joke. Idk i thought it would be fun and different. I truly appreciate you watching though!
@@RobPirieCedarOtaCoffee
Your videos are fantastic.
Definitely would LOVE to see a video on cupping coffee!
It will most definitely be coming! Hopefully sooner than later! lol
Pretty dope video!! Definitely agree with you on contacting your local roaster. I did that and ended up part timing at my that shop. While I didn't learn much about roasting, I learned a LOT about dealing with customers and the ins and outs of running a business/coffee shop. Pretty useful stuff. But most importantly, I got connected with people who love coffee!
That must have been a great experience. I wish I would have done something like that in the beginning. It would of took much of the guess work out that I did in the beginning. That is what I am lacking right now. Surrounding myself with other coffee enthusiast in the area to learn from and cup with. I definitely need to fix that.
Good One! Thank you for your on-site…insight!
Glad it was helpful!
Found your video as I scour you tube for bits of wisdom. Great video and I like your enthusiasm! I hope everything is going good with your dream! Peace ✌️
Man I truly appreciate hearing that and hope the video was helpful. I’m actually planning out a pretty extensive roastery buildout at the moment. Haven’t really announced it yet! You getting into the roasting game?
@@RobPirieCedarOtaCoffee 🤷♂️ I’ve been roasting coffee in a whirlypop for a year or so, and want to get better. Ordered a bullet 1 kg roaster that I hope to have in a couple weeks. I’m like a older version of yourself so I’m very skeptical of myself, if that makes sense. All I know is I love coffee and everything about it. I’m glad to see your growing from the 1 st video I watched. I will lurk around and watch more.
Nice video, I've thought about it, but nah... Keep doing ya thing. Putting in another order this morning for Bali. And good luck on your ultra! I did mine in Nashville 2015.
STU!! I did not realize you had a drone channel man. Good stuff! Thanks so much for the feedback yesterday as well. Going to "properly" respond tonight. Thanks for the order man...And you do Ultras.. It sounds like we just need to be friends! lol
300 came...and went. Congrats on that milestone! You're doing right by coffee culture with this video and your thoughts on the process of getting a roastery going. Just judging by all the comments I'm seeing, this totally resonated. Well done. I'm looking forward to the cupping video, too.
Lol it sure did.. So caught up in the next step I barely enjoy the victory.. Such is life now days.. I think it resonated as well. We will see what comes of it. Cupping tutorial is definitely coming. Thanks for watching Ryan and keep hammering!
Great video man!
Thanks so much Chris! I truly appreciate you watching! Looking forward to discussing coffee with you this week!
Hi from Perú 🇵🇪! I’m starting in this specialty coffee world so I am hallucinating. I appreciate your videos. Thanks and see u soon!
Heck ya! Good luck buddy! What part of Peru are you from?
Great video, good points, entertaining, great video and sound. I'm a roaster and long distance runner myself.
Dang man we might be long lost brothers then! haha You doing any ultras this year?
Rob, just found this video today. Great content. My dream is to start a coffee company, this video gave me some insight. I appreciate the information.
Thats so cool to hear buddy! Glad it was helpful. Please let me know if you have any questions and good luck on your journey!
We love you too, Rob. You are a good man.
Haha thanks so much! Love ya back brother!
You are 100% correct! I am on the same journey but went the hobby route after I ran the numbers early on and lovin' every minute of it. You have to run the numbers and identify your customer base and figure out how you are going to grow those customers. You might have found your calling in video production, great vids!
I definitely support choosing the hobby route first. I feel you almost have to because there is so much to learn. I guess if the coffee doesn't pan out I will try my luck as a UA-camr! haha. Either way I am going to try and enjoy every minute of it. Keep me updated on your journey and good luck with it all!
Thanks bro from the Philippines!
Great video. I guess we all learn something as we go brother. I know i love to pass on my mistakes to others so they can be successful and be a part of the coffee roasting community.
I hear that! These were just a few. Sometimes I actually feel I am not cut out for it but then I realize that the only way I fail is if I quit.. Thanks again for checking it out!
Love your channel brother!!
Thanks my friend! I truly appreciate that! Thanks so much for watching!! Also, thought I saw another comment by you but don’t see it now. Let me know if you had a question.
@@RobPirieCedarOtaCoffee you are welcome. Somehow my comment disappeared. I just was saying that I’ve been in the corporate coffee business most of my life, and I’m now determined to do something on my own in 2021. That’s why I started looking on UA-cam to get some knowledge, and I just love your approach to sharing your experience. Thanks for that, and I can’t wait to see more.
Heck ya buddy! What did you do in coffee? Like work at a bigger coffee chain? Roasting is a fun journey for sure. You learn so much more about the coffee. Looking forward to seeing what you come up with!
@@RobPirieCedarOtaCoffee yep. I worked for Starbucks for 6 years, then 12 years in another non-coffee retail industry, then the past year back at a small company that does handmade chocolates and roasts their own coffee for their 20 retail stores. I’ve known the owners since I was in high school when they only had 1 store only doing chocolates. I was laid off due to the pandemic, and now I want to start my own roastery on the side to see if I can get it successful enough to do full time. I just am crazy passionate about coffee like yourself, and I’m wanting to take a negative situation and turn into a positive. I e always talked about doing this on my own, and I think my situation is pushing me to actually do that. I’m thankful for people such as yourself to get info and inspiration from. I want to be smart and take time to educate myself so I can start small and build as I go. Thanks so much for taking time to respond and share your videos. Who knows, our paths might cross one day over a cup of coffee. Keep doing what you do!
@@frontporchcoffeecompany4919 haha! I found it in the spam folder. Had to approve it to see it. Don't know what happened. Anyway heck yes my friend! One day the paths will meet and we will most definitely share some stories and ideas over coffee! Have a great Christmas my friend and best of luck! If you need anything do not hesitate to hit me up!
Stumbled upon your channel today some how. OH.....coffee! Awesome content. And you're a runner to boot. BAM. Subscribe! Thanks for all the great information! Peace!
Heck ya my friend! I truly appreciate that and welcome aboard! I have my first 50 miler coming up in November and I have been thinking about bringing some of that into my videos. Do you roast your own coffee currently or just looking into it?
Love all your videos so far I’ve only watched 3 but plan on watching all of them. I own fuse coffee (coffee shop) in Troy Alabama and I have started a roastery with my pastry chef (he’s a Louisiana native) called fuse coffee roasters. We should have our roaster next week.
That’s so cool! What roaster and size did you decide on? I truly appreciate you watching and hit me up with any questions!
great video guys
Thank you so much buddy! Hit me up if you have any questions!
What an awesome video. Super down to earth, funny, knowledgeable and seriously speaking truth. I dig it, Bob. Greetings from Boston. I brew coffee with my Chemex every day and I love it. I wish you the best of luck with your business and I think with your personality and video making skills I'm certain you'll be exploding here on UA-cam. There's such a great coffee community here. Keep making videos!
Dang man! Talk about making me feel good. haha I truly appreciate that! Comments like that make all these videos worth the effort! I am going to do my best to keep at it and hopefully a grow a fun little community. Would love to get back up to Boston one day! Beautiful and historic city for sure. Again though, comments like this make the late night editing so much worth it! Truly appreciate it!
Rob Pirie - Cedar Ota Coffee right on, Bob. Really nice website too. I just bought a bag of the Burundi. Can't wait to try it. Take it easy brother
@@ScottPihl Thank you so much man! I will be roasting this weekend and have it out Monday to you!
You are a funny dude! Love your videos and totally agree with you on those 3 tips.
Haha thanks buddy! I truly hope the videos are helpful. I don’t know a whole lot but figured I might as well share what I do know. Lol truly appreciate you watching and hit me up if you have any questions!
You are my new hero
I just finished courses at IBCA in phoenix AR (SCA brewing, Green Coffee, Sensory, and Roasting) and I am super pumped. I was wondering were you buy your green coffee and do you ever get a sample bag and cup it before you pull the trigger on the bigger bag? If thats a yes, do you have a small roaster for that purpose?
How good is Mill city roasters and which one do you use
do you use the software, Cropster to track your roasting profiles?
Sorry fpr all the questions
Stumbled upon your video today doing some research and BAM! found a new brother to follow.
Heck ya man! Truly hope they were helpful. You just getting into roasting coffee? Thanks for watching buddy!
@@RobPirieCedarOtaCoffee Yeah, thinking about it. Love my coffee!!!! I have my own brand but I'm seeing that it's really not worth it financially. I have done a lot of research over the years and thought that doing it this way would allow me to at least get my foot in the door, but I don't think so. And I just got an email today from my roaster telling me that if I don't sell more coffee I can't continue with my wholesale prices.
So, I may just place a final order and then be done with him. Hence my looking into roasting myself.
Got ya. Ya it seems like it would only be with white labeling if you already had a large following to sell to. Like if Joe Rogan came out with his brand. He would sale a ton just based off the platform he already has. I am kind of with you on the financials of it. I honestly think you have to go big or go home to really make a living with it. You looking to just home roast now or still try and sale?
@@RobPirieCedarOtaCoffee I'm not totally sure yet. I would love to continue to sell it, but I'm just not sure. Otherwise, I will definitely try the roasting myself.
This is what I have available now (not sure for how long) but maybe you can give your thoughts or suggestions on it. duemmelco.com/collections/small-batch-craft-coffee
Thanks for all the incite brother it's highly appreciated.
Ya I am kind of in the same boat. I want to crank back up but with all the Covid risk and potentially being shut down I just don’t know if it is worth the risk at the moment.
Great info you provided. I would just add one more and that is the maintenance of your roaster. Thus if your budget allow, pick one roaster that has good support and easy maintenance. Good luck to your endeavor!
Can not agree more. When I finally get larger scale production roaster I will definitely be taking support and maintenance into consideration. I truly appreciate you checking out my video. Have a great week and happy roasting.
This is my favorite video so far. We opened our shop in March and just now started roasting. I need all the help and advice I can get! I hope we can be successful so I can drink coffee in the woods!
Haha drinking coffee in the woods is far less stress than opening a shop! I commend you for that.
I'm a home roaster and recently had the idea to start a business, and youtube recommended this video. Thank you so much for the wonderful advice.
Not a problem at all my friend. I figure if I can help people save some time from the get they may have a better chance. Thanks for watching buddy. Truly appreciate it and good luck!
Really appreciate this video. Funny as hell too!
Haha thanks so much man. I try to keep it as fun as possible. Never really been into the snobbish coffee personalities. I just want to drink good coffee and enjoy life! Truly appreciate you watching my friend!
@@RobPirieCedarOtaCoffee True! I hope to meet more people like you when I begin my coffee roasting journey.
There are plenty of us out there! You planning on getting into roasting?
@@RobPirieCedarOtaCoffee Yeah once I wrap up my travels. That's the plan for the next phase of my life.
@@thetraveldread6934 What is your plans with you channel. You going to keep Travel Heads going?
Thank you for this. This couldnt have come at a better time. I have been in the process of gathering this information over the years and have finally made the decision to just go for it. (oil and gas taking a nose dive had a lot to do with it). This has been a dream of mine since I can remember. So many go into the business with this false sense of how things will be. They either quit because it not all roses or they adjust. These 3 words of wisdom are going on the dream board. Thanks again...#myrootsarealsointheboot
Truly appreciate you watching my friend and glad it helped. I actually work in the oil and gas industry as well at a pump repair shop. Things have changed a lot down here along the gulf coast. Follow your dreams man and once you put put your head down to move forward don’t quit until you make it! Keep pushing! Good luck my friend and holla if you have any questions.
Awesome video!
Thank you so much Chaunice! I truly appreciate that! Really appreciate you watching my video as well. Hope you found it helpful! Let me know if you have any questions!
@@RobPirieCedarOtaCoffee Very helpful! I have officially subscribed. I can't wait to watch the others. I will definitely let you know if I have any questions! Keep up that awesome energy!
Thank you so much for subscribing! I will definitely keep up the energy! Are you just getting into roasting or do you have a roaster yet?
@@RobPirieCedarOtaCoffee I'm really just getting into it but I've been interested in it for a while. Trying to get as educated as I can!
Got ya. Def check out my “how to become a coffee roaster” video as there is a ton of links and sources for education and help. Really hope you take the dive into roasting and best of luck on the journey! Cheers to better coffee!
i just found your channel yesterday. Thank you for your fresh outlook on coffee "business". I have been roasting my own beans for 9 years now. I started out with a popcorn popper with beans from Sweet Maria's. Then I began to get beans from Smokin' Beans and upgraded to a Gene' roaster. I did that for several years and now get beans from Coban Trade and am looking to upgrade my roasting to the next level. My wife has a small store that I sell at but most of my sales has been word of mouth and friends, plus my co-workers at my day job have ordered around 20lbs of coffee to be delivered by next week. What other wholesale bean providers have you had good experience with? My brother just created a fantastic logo for me. I am super stoked about going to the next level!
Hey buddy! First of all thanks so much for watching my video and glad to hear you liked it! A few good ones that I have talked to are Showroom coffee, coffee bean corral, and coffee shrub. Coffee Shrub can be kind of expensive but very clean and high quality coffee. Good luck on the nexts steps my friend. I am actually planning the same thing for 2022! Let's get it!
Thanks for the video im in the beginning steps
Good luck brother! Thanks so much for watching!
When it hits
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I just wanna
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I have no intention of opening a Coffee Roastery, but this whole video was worth it for this poetry at the end ;)
haha... I mean, it's not my best work but it did fit good there at the end of the video! Thanks so much for tuning in! Really appreciate it!
Funny and... Brilliant
haha thanks! Truly appreciate you watching and hope it was benefitial!
Love Judah and the Lion! Great music choice
Yes indeed! Them dudes been crushing it!
Great video super helpful
I would love to work with you in someway I love your style. your video editing is excellent.
I’m looking to start a coffee roasting company to partner with something I’m already working on in the coffee shop industry. When I have more questions I’ll definitely be in touch
Thanks so much for watching buddy and truly appreciate the kind words. Let me know if I can help and good luck on your journey!
Two Fridays down! Keep on going, 50 to go! Quality stuff right here.
Haha! I know right.. 50 seems like a lot but it is doable. The more I do the better I will get. Thanks for being here since the beginning! Really appreciate it.
Fun video. First of yours I’ve watched. I started home roasting a week ago and did my first cupping. Sadly it all tasted the same. Would it be good to do cuppings of the roast every day to find the point the coffee tastes the best?
Very informative Rob, I've been thinking about starting a roasting company.
Heck yes!! Just have a plan and start. You will learn a ton and the knowledge is amazing to have! Hit me up with any questions.
@@RobPirieCedarOtaCoffee don't worry!!! I sure will, your my go to guy.
@@RobPirieCedarOtaCoffee we are trying to organize a 1kg mill city roaster, but not sure it they sell them here in Australia Rob
Do yo have any suggestions on a roaster
I know mill city gets most of there’s from China so you could probably cut some shipping cost if you ordered directly from one of the Chinese roasters. Also, look on the used coffee equipment and coffee roasters forum Facebook groups and see if any roasters are for sell around you.
Hey! Really enjoying your videos. Great content. Do you mind sharing what kind of scale you’re using?
That one is just a “Mira Model ST85”. It’s a cheap one from amazon. Probably 20 bucks or so. Batteries don’t let long but I am always packing and throwing it around so it is pretty durable. It’s not a commercial scale though. Thanks for watching Renee! Really appreciate it!
Thanks for the quick reply! Do you have a commercial scale that you recommend?
I haven’t personally used one so can’t really recommend a commercial one. If you are starting small scal I wouldn’t think you would need a commercial one unless your area requires it to operate. The “coffee roasters forum” on Facebook would be the best place to get some good feedback on scales. If you search in the search box there should be some posts already covering it. Hope that help. Good luck too!
Greeting from Indonesia, Love your videos.
Thanks so much buddy! I truly appreciate you watching. Would love to see India one day! Looks like a remarkable place.
Coffee in the woods?
In New Mexico ... we call that "Cowboy Coffee"
Coffee over an open Fire... The Best in the World.
Cowboy coffee is good but it has a time and place for sure.
I’m a soon to be college graduate, and I’m looking to start a Coffee Roasting business and eventually a coffee shop. I really enjoyed the video, it was very insightful
Thanks so much buddy!! Ya coffee roasting is a fun journey. I will also say that starting a business in college will help you learn better too. If you are taking business classes you will be able to relate the classes so much easier. Accounting, business law, advertising, and finance will all make so much more sense if you have a business you are trying to operate and grow.
@@RobPirieCedarOtaCoffee I’m actually a Civil Engineering major. I don’t have much business experience, but I wanted to start something on the side and create something that is my own. When I got to college, I became very passionate about coffee. I wanted to learn about the different roast, the different grinds, and everything in between. I guess all the late night studying made coffee crucial 😂
That’s cool man! Ya owning your own business and doing something you love is so important now days. Best of luck man and keep me posted on your progress!
Love your video....nothing but truth. My biggest error when starting my coffee business in 2019 was not getting a partner. I think I was too overconfident and thought I could do it all. Man was I wrong, shit is kicking my ass, I have to be everything all the time. Plus, your point of your business growing slower couldn't be more true. Hard to grow a business when I still have a full time job and family to take care of. That leaves like what? 10 to 20hrs a week to run my coffee business? All by myself? Hindsight.
Preaching to the choir! I am in the exact same boat! haha I have started to change my perspective to grow very slowly and just using this slow time to learn everything I can. That way when an opportunity arises, I have the confidence and knowledge to make a good decision and roll with it. Good luck with it man and keep hammering! My theory is the only way this game beats me is if I quit.
Whats up my man. Visiting from your post in NSC. Not a coffee guy but your trailer thumbnail got my attention. Im also from LA...new Orleans to be exact.
I got a good chuckle out of the millennial line.
Also here is a tip....if you plan to reply to your comments, reply first then heart so people get the notification for the comment first. I dont know which you do first but I always try to share this with folks when I can.
I also enjoyed the opene few moments of the video. Good style and presence on camera my man.
New Orleans? Heck we might be family then! haha Thanks so much for watching and commenting and also for the tip. I never thought about it but it does make more sense to do it that way. I always like it and heart first. I really appreciate the feedback. Hope all is well as it looks like you have a beautiful family!
@@RobPirieCedarOtaCoffee Thanks for the compliment boss. :) @ we might be family. Man you never know. Haha
I'll be sure to check out some other videos whole too.
@@TheRichardsRevealed Haha! Anything possible in Louisiana! No problems. Keep hammering brother!
hey Bob. thanks a zillion for your great and helpful videos. I'm about to start my own coffee roasting business. I'm in the learning level yet, you know, and there are lots of things I don't know yet. Long story short, do I need a consultant to start the business? I mean ,someone experienced in the field to help me through the early steps. thanks again, you are great(:
A consultant, partner, or anything like that will definitely speed up the process. I know people who started with not much knowledge and they are doing great but it took them along time to get it moving. It really comes down to how fast you want to move and how much money do you want to use to speed up the process. Where are you from?
@@RobPirieCedarOtaCoffee thanks. I'm from Iran. a VERY difficult country to start a business. ((:
@@siahaq1129 Got ya! Ya I can only imagine. I know Iran has some great coffee history and people as I keep up with a few on Instagram. They say the same thing though about the uncertainty and stuff. Have you reached out to anyone in Iran that has a roastery currently?
Rob I make coffee in the field all the time. Either when I hiking or hunting I always bring everything I need to make great coffee. I will make a video showing how I make coffee in the backcountry or blind. I use an Aeropress and it make an excellent cup of coffee. Let you know when the video is up.
Haha I just gonna areropress a few months ago and love it for those types of things. I am planning on doing a tutorial on it sometime on March. I feel I can’t quite capture a consistent cup out of it yet. It’s great coffee but I can’t quite make it the same every time for some reason. That’s the only reason I have not made it yet because I’m still experimenting with it some. Hit me up when you post it! I will definitely check it out!
Sometimes I add creamer or fake sugar to my coffee. Every cup I brew I cup. I have my little cupping spoon and if the coffee is what I like at the time, I drink it black. But I cup every brew.
hello I really liked your video! i live in new jersey, i worked with coffee tasting in brazil for 15 years! I am a licensed Q Grader and master of coffee roasting, I am doing some research to open a small roasting company here in New Jersey! my experience in green beans and much more i'm new to the country just three years living here! your videos are of great help! thanks
Thanks so much Carlos! With that much experience you could really dominate starting a coffee roastery. One of my dreams is to go down to one of the coffee origins and see it in person. I truly hope the best for you and let me know if you have any questions that I may could help with. Appreciate you watching my friend!
Rob Pirie - Cedar Ota Coffee
thank you, let me start with my roasting and as soon as questions arise you will help me and i also try to help you with what i know about beans quality and also with regions of brazil where you can find high quality coffee!
Carlos Guedes Dude that would be amazing! I’m here if you have and so fire away. Would live to pick your brain eventually and see what Brazil is like.
Hey!!! Absolutely loving your videos! Love your approach to the entire process and willingness to share and help others! I'm a complete novice but I'm super passionate about coffee, I'm just starting from scratch in terms of educating myself. My wife and I have a concept that we are hoping to get off the ground within a few years. In the meantime, I'm watching all of your videos trying to learn as much as I can. I have a question about cupping...right now I don't have any form of roaster so I'm having to buy my beans and then cup. Do you recommend reading tasting notes BEFORE you cup, or do it blindly, cup it and try to discover and find those notes on a tasting wheel?
Hey!! Thanks so much for checking my videos out Devin! for cupping, I would say put the focus more on consistency than process. I switch it up. Sometimes I blind test, sometimes I know exactly what is in each cup. Sometimes I cup the same coffee on different dates (Same brand of coffee 3 months old, 2 months old, and then a week old) to see when it starts to break down. What does it taste like 6 months old. What about testing all dark coffee together and all light coffees together. For me, it was most important to make cupping a habit. In the beginning, I may cup for 2 days and then not do it for a month and then cup again. it was not until i started cuppig daily or every other day that I really started to get the hang of it. In shorty just cup alot and mix it up. If you get comfortable one way then add different variables and coffees. All naturals, all washed, find a Robusta and cup it. #tryallthethings! lol
@@RobPirieCedarOtaCoffee Amazing! Thanks so much for this Rob I really appreciate you taking the time to get back to me. I'll get on it!!! Going to do my first cupping this week! Amped! I'll keep watching and learning from you as much as I can! Thanks again, dude!!!
No problem at all buddy! Don’t let cupping intimidate you. Make it fun and enjoy the process. Soon you will be pulling flavors you never dreamed you could. It’s like anything, the more you do it the better you get! Good luck and enjoy my friend! Just released a new video today too if you are interested. Enjoy!
@@RobPirieCedarOtaCoffee Sorry for the late response! Again thank you kindly for the help and suggestions! Im getting caught up with your videos now!! Keep them coming please!!! Love it
No worries man and no problem at all. Truly hope you enjoy them and hit me up with any questions later down the road!
Thanks for your very helpful videos! For those of us who are wanting to just start roasting as a hobby is there a simplified version of this "start-up video"? Would love to start it as a hobby and see how it goes and then think about the business side of things?
Hey Alec! My latest video may help you if you are just getting into coffee roasting. I cover basically how to get into coffee roasting in it. It is geared mostly to people who are just looking to buy a roaster and start the journey. Hope it helps you. Let me know if there any questions you have and I would be happy to help.
I love watching your videos but maaaaaaannn you gotta bloom it every time
Bloom it? What you mean?
When you made the pour over on the Chemex you said you bloom it sometimes and sometimes you don’t. I’m just giving you a hard time though, you do you!
Ohhhh haha! Ya... sometimes at work if I’m in a hurry I just rush but I normally do bloom it. Lol thanks so much for checking out my channel buddy! You planning on starting to roast or you already doing it?
Haha I totally get it. Yeah I love your channel, you seem super chill so keep it up! I’ve been passionate about coffee for a long time, been a kickass barista for around 7 years but really want to open a roastery someday. Probably going to purchase a small Kaldi soon and just try to put time into learning the skill so that later in life when I’m ready to open the business, I’ll be more of a seasoned roaster
Heck ya dude! So much of the basics can be learned on the small machines. Look at the Huky 500 too. I hear only good things about it as well. Where you plan to open a roastery down the road at?
Nice job my friend. Your weather is definitely better than mine. I’ve never tried chemex, always French press. Do you ship to Canada yet? I’m eager to try your coffee. I’ll even vlog it and give you a plug. 😊
Man you have to try the Chemex. Takes about 2 or 3 tries to get the hang of it and boooom you have some bomb coffee. Shoot me your address and I will see how much it cost to ship up there. info@cedarotacoffee.com Thanks for watching to buddy! I truly appreciate it.
@@RobPirieCedarOtaCoffee done.
@@trailrunnerspointofview Thanks buddy! I will get with you and have it shipped out Monday!
Good video. All of it is true. However, I don't cup. I just drink alot of coffee. I put myself in the shoes of my customers and see what I taste in my brew.
Yeah. It's like the cost just keeps coming. And this year I told myself that what I want will take time. Good stuff!
Thanks Oke! That is pretty much what I do too. I have a set standard I do with my Chemex and that is how I usually check the quality. But I want to get better at cupping so I can better pick out certain flavors and compare coffees side by side. It is a long journey and it is taking way longer than I imagined too.. We got this though! Hope all has been well with you.
@@RobPirieCedarOtaCoffee Yep. We got this. Yeah. All is well. Just enjoying the slow burn.
@@fastpace81 I hear that! Nice catching up with you Oke!
Having coffee in the wood, close to its home, is Fantastic:)
Haha yes indeed! One of the best places to have it. Although I would like to make some on top of a mountain one day! On my bucket list! Haha
looks like a Remington 870, mind you can't see clearly. Might be a browning too? Great video, your scaring me, and educating me at the same time. Never roasted a bean in my life, never even seen a green bean in my life. But love coffee, and may need a new post pandemic hobby :)
Yep the old Rem 870! Solid little shotgun. Don’t mean to scare ya my friend! Roasting is super fun man! If you enjoy coffee roasting brings out an entire new patio around it. Especially when you realize how much control you can have over the flavor. Hit me up with any questions. Happy to help!
I have a mini coffee hobby that i sell my coffee and i love doing it. I don't do it to gain lots of money. I do it more for fun with the perk of selling the coffee. I sell locally. Right now its all word of mouth.
Once again this video is golden!
I'm in the starting phases of establishing my online coffee brand. But, I'm in Toronto, Canada any advice or recommendations for suppliers like sweet Maria in Canada? Based on your advice, I'll learn to roast first, but I'm definitely planning to roast my own beans very soon. Babysteps first!
Definitely a good question for the coffee roasters forum on FB. I know Toronto has some great coffee roasters up there. I would literally hit some of them up and just let them know you are interested and see if any will help. Cafe Imports, Ally, Genuine origin will all ship to Canada I imagine. Some of the local roasters may sell you small quantities if you ask them. That would cut out shipment and all that for you if you are only getting say a pound to roast with.
@@RobPirieCedarOtaCoffee Cheers Rob, I'm on it thanks again.
No problem buddy!
As a long time coffee drinker, I have always enjoyed brewing coffee different ways. Over the 2020 year, I started thinking about how much buying coffee retail was costing me over the course of a year. So, i started teaching myself about roasting at home, then about where to get beans to roast. Then after i got proficient, i started sending beans to friends and family in the mail. In short, what started as an enjoyable hobby, had turned into a viable business venture with some friends. We started a business plan in Feb 2021, and are now Online selling our own blend.
Dude I love stories like these!! So cool to hear. Link your website when you get a chance and I will check it out. I really wish you guys the best and if I can help in any way don’t hesitate to reach out.
@@RobPirieCedarOtaCoffee It really has been a fun process. I do have to admit having the other partners probably expedited the whole process. Im the guy with the "Wild Marketing Ideas", and get the..."OK DAVE and the EyeRoll". Fernando is the Brain, Ramon is the Storyteller (Gotta have those around a pot of coffee), and Sergio has the "Connections". We all play a role....and most importantly we laugh alot. ***I didnt want to post my website on my previous post because lets face it....NOBODY likes "That Guy".🤣🤣🤣 Our sit is new and will be growing, and we've already added stuff. This was the second video of yours i came across and had to subscribe. Our Company is all about Good Vibes. www.eastaza.com.
That’s awesome man!! That’s actually what I am looking for! A good group to role with and make it happen. Sounds like you guys have a pretty good set up going! I love your website. Very clean and professional. Anxious to see where you guys take it!
@@RobPirieCedarOtaCoffee Like i mentioned, Fernie, is the Technical Brains. We through ideas at him, and Voilá its done. We are going to be adding more to the site soon. Like a page to Get to know us and in my opinion to Break the notion that to enjoy coffee has to be a certain way. "ITS YOUR MUG, ENJOY IT THE WAY YOU WANT IT." I hope you can find some like-minded go getters and keep building.👍
Heck ya buddy!! I hope the same. Completely agree with enjoying coffee the way you like to brew it. I try to promote that as well. It’s so subjective.
The best content about coffee in youtube . Keep going bro, after this shit we will start roasting
Man you do not know how much that means to me! I truly appreciate it. So you wanting to open up a roastery?
Rob Pirie - Cedar Ota Coffee actually I will start with a small machine to learn and to do experiment and to test different type of beans and suppliers, I’m thinking to open a roastery in 1 year, after getting some experience because we don’t have good coffee roastery and quality coffeeshop in my city, so self learning, what do you think about my plan man ?
I think taking the year to learn and grow your knowledge is key. Roast a bunch and taste a bunch in that year. What City do you live in?
Enjoyed the video. How much do you think you should have up front for capital?
Honestly I haven’t succeeded yet so I am hesitant to answer. Lol Man it really depends on so much. Are you starting in the garage, building out a roastery storefront, Mobil truck, or just selling online? I would say at least double what you think you will need unless you have a very good business plan and have experience with it. Also depends on if you buy the roaster or decide to private label. That’s a tough one.
Also, where are you from? That will play a big part to depending on the cost of living.
Love your videos. Such a down to earth guy, and I think that alone will take you farther than you think in your business venture. A few honorable mentions to add to your list. Do - Contact you're local city/state health department. You may find out you cannot roast out of your house. Each state is different. Do - Find your buyer first. I roasted out of a air popcorn popper, gave some samples to friends, who gave some to their friends. Now everyone wants a bag. I came to the conclusion if I can acquire customers with a air popper, then imagine what I can do with a commercial roaster. Do - Utilize your local small business support organizations. Most states have these. Here it's S.C.O.R.E. It's free, and they will help you step, by step. Like you said, it's a long runway. But if you do the math, coffee has one of the highest profit margins, in the end it should pay off. Keep the videos coming, and I'll be ordering some product to taste soon.
For some reason this comment went to spam but I pulled it back over because everything you mentioned is spot on. There are so many things to research in the beginning in regards to laws/legalities and every state and sometimes county is different. Thank you so much for the feedback and sharing some knowledge!
Hi John. Where do you by your green coffee? Also do you know of suppliers prepared to start of with smaller quantities for us to buy?
Hey buddy! Large quantities Coffee Shrub or Cafe Imports it locally Interamerican. For small quantities check out Sweet Maria’s and Coffee Bean Corral. Thanks for watching and hit me up with anything else!
Hey Rob, great video! I live in a 1 bed apartment, just trying to get an idea of the kind of space you need to start roasting. Worried about this because I live in London and rent here is super expensive. Also does it make a lot of noise and are there ant gasses that you need to extract? Cheers
Thanks so much buddy!! You don’t really need a big space if you are just going to be roasting for yourself. If you get a small 200 - 400 gram machine it want be that loud and the smoke will be no worse than cooking on the stove if you are roasting lighter coffee. Now a 2kg and up machine will put out a good bit of smoke. Enough for your neighbors or city to complain about possibly. As far as the gasses... there has been research that there are carcinogens in the smoke and that can cause cancer. On a small roaster I don’t think it will be enough to remotely worry about. Larger roaster yes. What’s your plans or goals with it? Roast from home or startup?
@@RobPirieCedarOtaCoffee Cheers for the reply! I was thinking as a start up, I read that with roasting it pays to get a bigger roaster from the start. I was thinking as a side project initially though..
@@cornerstoneful I would start out with something super cheap like a huky or Kaldi and build a brand up around it first. I got a 2kg roaster and I agree with you. It is not quite big enough to really roast the quantity needed to make money. But it was expensive enough that I cant really go out and upgrade to a 6kg or 10kg machine. Would definitely agree on starting with a larger roaster once you launch. It is such a tough decision because roasters are a ton of money at that size and you really have to believe that you can stick it out, stay interested, and grow fast enough to make it all work.
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As far as starting off small, such as selling at a farmers market selling small batches of coffee, what are the regulations i need to follow for selling a “food” item to the public. If you do know anything about that. Either way, great video, keep up the good work!
That is probably the toughest obstacle when starting out. It differs from state to state. Depending on where you live there may be a "cottage food law" that covers you say up to $25,000 in sales. But where I live the cottage food law does not apply to coffee. Here we have to have a commercial kitchen, all products licensed, and inspected, etc. So like every horrible answer... It depends. lol
I agree with cupping and that is my current weakness. I'm interested to learn more about techniques on how to pull and disect the flavor profile...the best I can do is kinda know if it is citrus or not, maybe fruity? Maybe has some chocolate? But I am never sure....
Haha ya Cupping is hard at times. You have to do it enough to eventually get good at it but it can get monotonous at times and feel like a chore. I’m no professional at it by any means but I see the importance of it. Do you roast coffee too?
I am doing weekly roasting at home with interests in starting my own roasting business in the near future.
Nice! Ya cupping would definitely give you the confidence needed to speak to customers about coffee once you start. What you roasting on at the moment?
Hm, so I bought about 15 different sample packs. I am going down the list, but right now I have roasted Ethiopian, Costa Rica and Bali Indonesia beans. I think so far I like Costa Rica flavor profile so far.
Also my roasts are sample small roasts using a Data dome setup with Hive Roaster product.
I'm curious about the paper you used in your pour-over. I have a pour-over with a built-in filter and I can't get good coffee out of it. I bought it for camping because my French Press got dropped and that's all that was available at the time.
Is that just paper rolled into a cone, or do you buy them already formed into a cone?
I will just say "Thanks Tom" ... haha
But ya.. chemex filters at Bed Bath and Beyond. They are bomb!
The Aero Press is a phenomenal brewing vessel, especially for camping, and they won't break. Glass vessels are great but are fragile and hard to back pack sometimes. But the Chemex is good.
@@TGL_24 Oh yes! I have one of those as well. I am planning on doing a video on it soon. Thanks for watching Ted! Truly appreciate it!
Any recommendations on what size or a preffered brand to start roasting on? I am concerned on starting with a little home electric one but then needing to upgrade too quick if I start selling coffee. I'm checking out sites like alibaba but it seems like you can go big or go home sorta.
Roaster’s get pricy very quickly depending on size and brand. I purchased a 2kg Bideli and I like it. I wish I would of saved up for larger roaster though and learned more about roasting before I spent that much on one. There are smaller machines like the Kaldi and Kaldi wide, Huky 500 and others that are great too. Problem is it is hard to scale with such a small unit. So, without knowing your knowledge level, budget, and determination it’s hard to say. Mill City I hear is good and Buckeye basically sells Bideli roasters too that way you don’t have to go through alibaba. You pay more though.
I'm not even intrested in a coffee brewing business but found your video really interesting lol! Great job!
Well thank you so much.... I guess most of it could apply to any business besides the cupping coffee portion. Truly appreciate you watching!
@@RobPirieCedarOtaCoffee cupping coffee is definitely a requirement for any business.
@@trailrunnerspointofview Haha! I missed this one! Completely agree! I am sure it took many cuppings to build and sell one as well! lol
Would love to chat on the podcast sometime. Just started a Coffee roastery. I am in South Alabama. Almost on the Mississippi line.
Email me and let’s talk.
Coffeerunsdeep@gmail.com
Hey man i tried to email you couple of months ago. Anyways am here now and i wish i have seen this video before i brought my equipment s. I have some questions i need an answer.
1. hot airflow . Still i cant figure the difference between the manual damper and the hot airflow nob.
2. I have 300g sample roaster (china made) and my roasting time at max is 5min i think this is toooo fast.
3. What is the best time to try coffee after roasting in other words how long should i wait to cup my roast.
Cheers bro
Hey buddy! I am horrible with email. So much is spam and promotionals now that I know I miss a lot on there. I need to clean it up one day. What type of machine are you roasting on? I personally start off with minimal airflow in the beginning and I will increase it towards the end of the roast. This allows the harsh smoke and vapor to be pushed out much better. Without seeing a picture I can not really advice on the differences in knobs.
5 min roasts are very fast. I usually shoot for first crack around 8-9 mins and drop around 10-11 minutes depending on who I am roasting for and how light/dark I am roasting. 5 mins is not enough time for the entire coffee bean to develop in. You most likely are getting some grassy underdeveloped tastes.
I would wait at least 2 days to start cupping your coffee. But you can cup it the day of and consecutive days to train your pallet to detect that carbon like flavor.
Hope all this is helpful my friend and best of luck roasting!!!
@@RobPirieCedarOtaCoffee cheers buddy. I will take a picture for the machine once am at the roastary. Thanks for the advice. And i will be in touch very soon
Cool deal! Anxious to see what you are using!
Don’t get hung up on the little things. Go for it! If it’s your passion and dream and I mean whatever it is just do it. No regrets. Live life like there is no tomorrow. The saddest thing in life is a life full of “what ifs or regrets” that you didn’t do everything in your power to pursue your dream.
Heck yes dude! That’s basically what I did. Dove off into the deep end and started kicking for dear life. Then I realized that want be a tomorrow if I don’t create a plan and path forward. I had to break it all the way down to fixing even daily habits that were holding me back. The best part is the growth that comes from the actual experience. For me, that’s what makes the “dream” finally morph into reality. Thanks for watching my friend! Hope all is well and keep hammering whatever it is you are pursuing!
I would argue that if it is your passion and dream the little things are the most important. Details are key in the coffee game and rather than going broke in year like so many do, spend time working in the industry and saving money. Just going for it generally works for those who already have a lot of knowledge and experience. gaining the knowledge from others who have year of experience will allow you to be better at what you do and avoid constant issues that arise from inexperience operators. My advise spend a year or two gaining the knowledge through employment and save some cash, then go for it.
This is both funny and educational 😂 They don’t teach you this in school
Haha! I truly appreciate that man! and no they definitely do not teach you that in school. I could go on for days of what I think of the education system but I will refrain myself. lol
Great Bob !
One Q : is it that huge different between 15k $ roster and 3k $ roster for open a small business ?
Thank u Man
Batch size there will be a big difference. Just depends on how you plan to scale. 15k could get you roaster big enough to actually scale with. 3k you probably only looking at a 1kg machine at best. Which is not much coffee per batch when you start selling.