Red Rattlers back on track in Melbourne | ABC Australia
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- Опубліковано 16 жов 2024
- Fire nor financial trouble could keep a determined group of volunteers from bringing the historic Tait train back into service for passengers to experience suburban travel from a bygone era. Today’s launch marks the first time the Red Rattler has been certified to carry passengers on Melbourne’s suburban railway network while operating under its own power since 2004.
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Thank you for restoring this beautiful train
I have many great memories of these trains so good to see it running again and they were very comfortable.
Yes they were comfortable
Remember going to work on these as a teenager. Very comfortable ride and kept immaculate. Long may they continue. Wonder if the blue ones will be restored and returned.
I remember the blue ones too, mind you I was really young ;)
Never liked the blue trains the smell that came from them was horrid an the Silver's that came after didn't smell any better
They won't. All got buried in a quarry in Clayton thanks to their asbestos quantity. However they may very well restore the electrics of the 2 carriages in the AHRS Newport Railway museum.
Childhood memories. I remember catching these on the old St.Kilda line and also from Balaclava into Flinders St. I also the doors being open in summer too. I remember the protests to save the St. Kilda line and the "Red Rattlers" in the early 80's
The carriages were built and were steam locomotive hauled in Melbourne from 1910 before electrification was started and completed from Essendon to the city in 1918 and then to Sandringham before the conversion on other Melbourne routes, it would have been a little earlier but for the outbreak of world one, the Tait trains (named after a railway commissioner Thomas Tait) were built at Newport Workshops and were and it’s electric drive motors were built in the USA by General Electric but also not mentioned is the fact that the Victorian Railways also converted Melbournes earlier built and the mainstay of the then Suburban steam hauled carriages from the latter 1880’s the Swing Door or the other well known name Melburnians gave them the “Dog Boxes” by lengthening them and installing the same GE equipment in the Motor cars and pantographs and were used extensively on a lot of certain routes especially the St.Kilda and Port Melbourne lines, I used to love travelling on them on the way to Luna Park with my mates back in the 1960’s
Damn I miss the Red (& Blue) Rattlers. Have a lot of fond memories of sitting in the open door way on a hot day.
We had a lot more freedom.
@@c.a.marsupial.1282 Undeniable
I loved these trains.
A beautiful piece of machinery built with character and style built to last pretty much the same as old cars
Much better train's back then. Windows and doors open. No constant loud announcements. Seats super covetable. Beautiful interiors. I'm sure they speed was just the same.
They were trains will beauty and comfort. The pictures were unique on trains. The Windows could be opened,but that went on later models.Great to see the red rattler again.
Loved the red rattlers on a hot Melbourne afternoon, doors open wind in your face.
Does anyone remember the parcel vans that used to travel on the Melbourne rail network until the late 70’s? they used to look like a cut in half red rattler carriage with a big barn door on both sides..
Yeah, I remember the Parcel Van trains. They had the same colour scheme as the ill-fated Blue Harris trains. Painted in dark blue, with a wider yellow coloured band running horizontal. A by gone era.
This restored train is also surprisingly comfortable and enjoyable to ride! However in the early to mid 1980s just before they were all officially withdrawn from service in 1984 they were extremely uncomfortable and not running very well and reliably due to how they were not very well maintained at all in the years leading up to their offical retirement! Also the restored Tait train runs like new! :)
The blue ones were awesome too. I remember either sitting on the bar in the middle of the doorway or hanging partially out the door on the way home from school. Never heard of anyone having any accidents either
I remember as a child one passenger jumped out before the train stopped at West Footscray station, he lost his feet and fell down hard on the platform.
Yea the blue ones smelt like cigarettes but i think they contained asbestos so they were withdrawn and buried
I remember both the red and blue ones.😊
The blue electric trains were “Harris” sets and the first were built in England and had asbestos right thru them, they were dumped in Quicksand in Melbournes Clayton South Quarry pits in the early 1980’s I still remember seeing them being trucked by Low Loaders going down centre road on their way to them in 1984, the Australian built (by Martin & King) survived and were highly modified and others were extensively rebuilt into regional commuter cars and were named “H” sets and were and still are Diesel locomotive hauled
If you ever took an express Red Rattler from Box Hill to Richmond and the Flinders Street,like I did years ago ,you will never forget the experience.
Love the historic footage from Milsons Pt. Station looking towards the Sydney Harbour Bridge. Because many Tait trans ran there.
Well done ABC.
Tait trains were only in Melbourne on Broad gauge , they were never used in New South Wales, the Sydney Electrics looked a bit like them but were certainly not Tait trains
@@jamesgovett2501 he is responding to the clip at 1:48 of Milsons Pt station in the video. A clear error from the ABC.
@@jamesgovett2501 That's right. Shortly before the remaining red Sydney long-lived standard units were retired for good in the late eighties, the Sydney media rather stupidly and cheaply pinched the term "red rattler" from Melbourne to describe the Sydney ones - i.e. Media personnel with a distinct lack of imagination. And somehow the name stuck although there was no justification for that label. Perhaps that's the reason for Shane's confusion. I lived on the North Shore of Sydney and all during my school days of frequent suburban train travel in the 60s no-one I knew among friends, family, church or schoolmates ever called the Sydney trains 'red rattlers.' The term was unknown to us.
Also, apart from those, there was an even earlier model of electric train in Sydney, probably of a similar vintage to the Melbourne Taits, and a precursor of the ones I was familiar with. These you occasionally saw running on the network, but seemed to have disappeared by the late 60s. They were rusty- red as well, but had a different front and back end design. However for the antique look, nothing can beat the Taits.
@@jamesgovett2501 I think hes being sarcastic
@@jamesgovett2501 that's the joke Shane is trying to make. They're pointing out the error in ABC using that footage
May the person that deliberately set the fire burn 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 in the bowels of hell. LONG LIVE OLD TRAINS 🙏🏼
They don't make them like that anymore actually looks nice inside
Hi everyone
Love these good trains
At one point you had to change trains at Glen Iris to continue to Glen Waverley.
No JB, you changed at East Mavern to the train in the dock platform. That train was from one to four carriages long depending on the load.
Don't suppose anyone preserved examples of later rail car fleets. Couple cars of a fleet since retired are on the roof of a restaurant someplace.
Go the red rattler
they run better than what we have now ( Belgrave Line )
These trains are good
We would sit in the doorway with the doors open as a kid
Cool👍
How can we ride these trains? Can someone please let me know? I'm filming a documentary on migrants who made the trip from Station Pier to Bonegilla migrant camp near Albury / Wodonga & even though those trains were not electric, it would make for amazing footage, for me to interview migrants in the carriages. Someone please help me?
Well you gotta follow steamrail Victoria and elecrail because they post all the info about these trains
The Victorian Railways did use a Tait train to pick up passengers and migrants from Station Pier Port Melbourne to Flinders street Station a few years into the latter part of “new Australians” arrivals and the Tait train actually had special electric lighting down its sides denoting “The Boat Train” and was used as a dedicated shuttle for a period of time
Why when the red rattlers come out I don't find out they've run till a week after love to take my girl on one si she could what I grew up with
only way to travel better than xtrapolis
13/6/22 glen waverley
Be differently better than the crap trains we have now
At least the old boy isn't living in fear and wearing a mask like Mr "I'm scared" 🤦♂️
I asked the interviewer if she wanted the masked removed. She said no. So cut the criticism. And for the record, I can’t stand wearing those bloody masks.
Also they did not have the cream outer window color, it was all red, plus they had 1st class, 2nd class and even 3rd class carriages, used to get on them on the port melbourne station and it ran directly to the city on platform 10 i believe from memory, plus also the blue trains also had 1st class and 2nd class carriages, after the red rattlers stopped, plus the train did not stop at furlong station which was near montague station, back in the day, also missed the ticketing system, one way or return tickets.
Loved those trains if only they restored them back to how they really looks ,with 1st, 2nd, & 3rd class seating arrangements, especially 1st class, even remember the ticket inspectors checking and hole punching the ticket you have, to make sure your not riding for free.👍👍🦘🦘🦘🦘👌👌