The New Tube Train For London is Here!
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- Опубліковано 20 лис 2023
- The Piccadilly Line is getting New Tube Trains! Built by Siemens, they'll be in passenger service in 2025. We got an invite out to their test track acility in Germany to go and have a ride on the first one off of the production line.
A total of 94 trains are on order, with half of them being made at a new Siemens factory at Goole in Yorkshire. I made a visit to the Goole factory last year, which you can watch here: • The New Tube For London
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We were all restricted to seeing just the front carriage of the train, which meant we couldn't go and see one of the shorter carriages, nor check out the accessible area of the train which we would've liked to have seen.
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"Wish You Were Here" by Dyalla and Joakim Karud
You know you're a real Tube nerd when you're getting on the floor to examine the flecks.
More like a train enthusiast
whilst salivating and jerking off too.
@@ace-paidinfull5240 tube nerd is the word
I Said the same thing.😂😂😂
@@eirho lol hes not just into tube trains tho
The design where they put the extra 10% of customers underneath the train was binned quite early on and I'm glad.
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Ah yes, the so-called "Mumbai Option".
ah man - i wanted to use an off-peak fare during rush hour
@@1258-Eckhartdon't those people ride on the roofs?
@@MACROPARTICLE Only for a few seconds.
Siemens actually installed the third rail at this test facility just for the new tube trains. There was an announcement a few weeks ago in the local newspapers warning about the new hazard, in case locals go "exploring" the area.
I was wondering about that. Probably a fourth rail, too? Or is is a second third rail?
@@geirmyrvagnes8718 I would assume fourth rail
@@sabersz Reminds me of one of Geoff's UA-cam friends presenting a monorail powered by third rail.
@@sabersz Yes, fourth rail is the correct term.
Actually they fitted a 5th and 6th rail because the track is dual gauge (1000 and 1435 mm) and already had a German style conductor rail. You can see all of it at 3:53!
This prabobly the one time only occasion you will experience being on the london tube train and seeing European Forest outside of the window .
So we were all restricted to seeing just the front carriage of the train, which meant we couldn't go and see one of the shorter carriages, nor check out the accessible area of the train which we would've liked to have seen.
And yes, using the "measure" App on my phone ( multiple times) it appears to be 5cm wider inside when you measure from door-to-door.
Um, it should be in 2024 the New Tube Train for London!
I think the buttons on the doors are used at termini when waiting to leave. On the circle line at Hammersmith you have to push the button if the train is waiting.
How wide was it between the seats?
How tall is the train interior from floor to the peak of the roof? Could you stand up? How tall are you?
Is the deverily goes to London via Channel tunnel between calais and folkenstone?
8:08 my theory is that the doors will close a short while after they've been opened when terminating, just like on S-Stock trains
That's exactly what I think, also because of the air conditioning, so that the air circulates better and doesn't mix with the warm outside air.
Like on the London Overground trains.
Also I notice when they terminate at Arnos Grove, the driver will check each carriage and shut each carriage of doors manually to stop people getting on a train that's coming out of service.
I'm guessing without those hidden buttons at the side of each carriage, the driver will need some way of manually closing doors?
Agreed. When district line trains terminate at Ealing Broadway, the doors open then close after people disembark. The doors can be re-opened by the button. This saves on the air conditioning.
@OdarrCZ The mainline stoppertrains called sprinters we have in The Netherlands also close the doors after a few seconds, even while stationary, accompanied by a flashing roof light and beeps for the same reasons.
But there you always use the buttons to open the doors. So my guess is, is it the same for these metrocars that you have to use the buttons to open the doors anyways, or do you only get a few seconds to board if it all goes automatically?
I live around an hour from Wildenrath, and local newspapers here recently ran articles where Siemens said, "warning, we installed London-style exposed third and fourth rails here, don't touch them! You're not really supposed to come to this facility anyway but if you do, don't touch anything, now more than ever!" It's interesting to see how that looks like in practice with all the other equipment they have in the tracks there.
Hey cool just noticed this too. I checked satellite view on Google Maps and usually it's just a normal electrified track. They had to add the 3rd and 4th rail specifically for this.
The look on the face of the TFL guy while you were taking the measurements was priceless! 😂 Thanks for taking us along Geoff, and it's really nice to see so many design features paying homage to the Piccadilly line's art deco heritage.
Lol yes. I noticed that as well. As if Geoff was going to break a secret or something lol 😆
Looks pretty basic to me
When I saw Geoff in the ITV report a few days ago I imagined him exactly as hyped as this. And I’m glad that Siemens didn’t produce a boringly quiet train, the 2024 stock actually has nice motor sounds.
Lol yea ITV London in a report by Rags Martel… saw that also
As it was designed to be as light as possible, silencers were probably considered as dead weight.
Sounds the same like the Siemens Inspiro Warsaw metro
Buttons are used at terminal stations. While the train is waiting to start the doors will close after some time and the buttons will allow the doors to open by passengers waiting to get on.
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8:15: Geoff, I cannot 100% confirm this, but I reckon the buttons are most likely to be used at terminal stations. Probably due to the air-con and other ventillation, they probably won't want doors open for an extended period of time, so including buttons can allow the doors to be closed for a while at terminal stations such as Uxbridge, Heathrow (T5 or T4) or Cockfosters. I suspect that was why the S7/S8 stock has buttons, which also have air conditioning. You would need to ask a siemans guy exactly why (maybe if you get asked to go to any other events), but I think you would get an answer along those lines.
That's such a logical explanation, I can't think it isn't the reason!
It most likely is the same system that the S Stocks use where the doors are shut if kept open for a certain duration.
More than likely it's an energy saving feature.
Yeah a good example is also with the S stock trains. They tend to close after a while when waiting at stations for a while and the buttons remain illuminated.
Seems logical, there is a big difference between doors opening and door release. It makes sense to simply release the doors at open air and less-used stations at the extremities of the line, to enable passenger operation. Saves a lot of wasted energy on the air con apart.
I also think that the driver will be able to unlock the doors (which them has a green/yellow light around the open button), but it will open once someone presses it, like on most NR mainline trains and the EL. And why are the buttons to close the doors gone on most new (NR and LU) trains as they are useful to allow heating/AC work effieicently. It also used to be the case where doors can be (un)locked, but has to be opened manually as the case for GWML (to Reading) and GEML (to Norwich)
Bring back the warm lights
Love those deco-inspired lights.
Some nice touches are... nice. We should have nice things, and we can.
We can all agree that the most important feature is the air conditioning….
absolutely
Making it a 9 segment train also means that the curved platforms (if there are any on this line...) can be positioned closer to the train, as more bendy bits means less sticking out from the bogies on a curve.....or at least, that's what I think.
Perhaps. It's complicated.
I was gonna say the same. Shorter carriages means less big of a gap to mind on curved platforms (theoretically).
Whar really determines the size of 'the gap' are the distances of the doors from the ends of the carriage, the overall length of the carriage, and the radius of the curvature. It's true that the doors of a shorter than standard carriage will be closer to the edge of a curved platform than those of a longer carriage, unless the doors are sufficiently farther from the ends to nullify this advantage. In this case I would expect not (ie the gap WILL be smaller for the shorter carriage doors.
However...the overall length of the train is determined by the lengths of the station platforms, therefore (unless passenger capacity were to be reduced - and they say that in fact it has been increased) the entire new train is no shorter than an existing train. This means that the non-intermediate carriages will in fact be longer than a current standard carriage, and (unless the doors were moved closer to the ends, which they do not appear to be) the gap at those doors will actually be larger than it currently is.
So, "swings and roundabouts" as usual.
@@christopherwright8388 all carriage will be shorter, as there are more of them in the same overall length of train. Or at least, this is what I understood from the video.
3:31 this is so amusing to me. geoff is filming himself on the floor of a tube train surrounded by loads of people and doesn’t care at all 😂
The only problem with the new trains is the heart attack tourists from the airport will get when they change at Piccadilly Circus.
Haha, so true.
Haha, yeah imagine them changing to the bakerloo line😂😂😂😂
Looooo as a fellow london dweller this comment. is gold🤣
Please enlighten me to the joke?
@@LuckyFlanker13 The tourists get on one of these trains at Heathrow, ride in relative comfort to Piccadilly Circus, and then get on a 72 stock ...
Nice tubes , if those seats are anything like the Lizzie line, good luck on long journeys ..45 mins into the journey you got yourself a sore bottom !
Nothing comes close to Bakerloo’ line seats !
Fabric seats should be banished. Plastic is much easier to clean and therefore hygienic !
I believe a sore bottom can also be had at Piccadilly Circus. I'll get my coat.
@@AM-mv6roviruses live longer on plastic seats than fabric ones.
I love how a company as big as Siemens trusts you enough to mail you 'hey wanna come check out our new train and film it too?'
Proves to me that you're an honest guy who loves his craft, if that is so then keep up the good work
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Ohh, route clearance gauging... A nightmare, especially if the new stock is bigger than the old.. I did the route clearance for the 701's contract routes across the Wessex route. It's amazing how bad existing route data really is when doing clearance... I don't envy the people leading the clearance for these....
Can't you just put like some sort of laser thingy at the front of a current train and have it measure where exactly there will be clearance issues with a bigger train? I'd assume we have this tech by now?
Just curious.
Just send the train through and fix the bits that get knocked off easy
Ah! just the person! Am I right in thinking that with less bogeys on these new trains the carriages will be further out on tight corners than the old stock?
@@ephphatha230 I don't think its that easy. Its a very expensive solutionl
i'm going to go out of my way on my commute just to try it out 😭
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UA-cam lol
It's insane to me that all these years later the New Tube Trains look almost exactly like the proof-of-concept video that TfL released
Me too! I'm shocked a government entity actually delivered on something they told us we'd get! Doesn't happen often!
Even I was surprisedddd
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Loved the Tube since I was a kid. I served in the RAF and was stationed at RAF Wildenrath until its closure in 1992. Never imagined that 31 years later I’d see new tube trains riding round the real estate of this former RAF Germany base!
I didn't realise it was actually at the old air base. When I was a kid whenever we drove past Wittering my dad would slow down so we could try to spot any Harriers taking off or landing.
I remember when we used to build trains in once Great Britain, the nation that invented trains as mass transport. I've travelled on British built trains still in service in Thailand.
But it is the past. Germans excel at train building. Be happy that London gets good quality underground trains
The piccadilly line has the most worn seats. Glad to see new trains are coming
Really bad how they’re not being built in the UK, could’ve given so many jobs
I'm in London right now (last time was in 2014!) and because of your videos I can appreciate the tube much more.
Would you believe that the concept video for these New Tubes was uploaded to the TfL channel in 2014 as well?
It's now unlisted but I have it saved to my phone still. Crazy to believe it took a decade to go from design to reality, but they look AMAZING
Great video Geoff. Ironically in 2025 when these new trains enter service on the Piccadilly Line, the existing 1973 stock will become a mere 50 years old (as will I)!
Too hyped to see this new tube on the underground ❤
Thanks Geoff to have travelled to Germany for us :D
Ah yes the brand new tube train for London. This new Piccadilly Line tube stock looks amazing on what Siemens are building and are expected to enter service from late next year and 2025 onwards.
And also new tube trains for the Bakerloo Line as well. Very slick, quiet and very modern. Also congratulations on reaching 320k subscribers.
New Bakerloo line trains are a long long way off
@@LondonEmergency999 I should hope they at least get some work done on them, I always feel like stepping into the 1960's (smell and all).
@@RicardoMusch Definitely no money for a refurb now the 1992 stock refurbishments have started
Yep on the Central Line and W&C Line.
It looks like the Elizabeth and Piccadilly line had a baby😂
I love the Piccadilly line.
It is my favourite tube line thanks to different locations where you can visit London by using the Piccadilly line.
And the designs on the old trains looked great.
While I can definitely say the new Piccadilly line trains look stunning and really well designed!👏
Also, would being 9 shorter carriages rather than 6 longer ones mean that they can curve around more, which in turn can mean stations with curved platforms can be modified to reduce the gap between train and platform edge? Obviously can only be done when the 73 stock are fully withdrawn and at platforms not served by other lines.
Perhaps. It🎉 depends on the geometry of the trains on curves. Sounds like a bad decision. They should have kept to the dimensions of the 1973 stock which fits the infrastructure. They have created a problem and risks unnecessarily. Getting this stock into service could mean expensive alterations to stations and other structures.
From what I understand it's the best and most efficient way to fit all the aircon gubbins on the train.
I had that thought. A good example is also on the new Blackpool trams which use Bombardier Flexity’s, but had to use a similar concept to this to handle some of the extremely tight corners
@@henrybn14arSeems like perfect sense to me, in an era where accessibility is important. The underground is 150 years old and so it needs to evolve. As they said also, getting rid of carriage ends frees up additional floor space for passengers. On a busy day those articulated sections can have 5 or 6 people on them where there used to be a gap between the two carriages
@@Mikeb1001 Having already been in Paris for a long time, the space in the gangway is little used because it moves a lot (tested myself). Logically, the cars move independently of each other.
Really cool to hear some of the engineering choices that went into this train!
Interesting point about the windows. I can see it being a problem as trains age and become noisier and announcements become less easy to hear. I find the best design is on the 92 stock, I understand how expensive to produce the curved glass. However it’s really handy for people standing to be able to see out.
The 92 stock is also an oven and has had windows problems.
Siemens trains sounds like a video you would only watch at 2am.
Air conditioning is a huge win and much needed. I was down in London once during a heatwave and the underground was like an oven.
I am not sure how well it will work on the tube lines. Simply adding air con to trains will not be very beneficial. There is not much space & limited ventilation so nowhere to grab fresh air from or dump the stale hot air. The cut & cover lines have much more ventilation available.
@@TheRip72 because of the open carriage design they have now been able to install cooling systems underneath the train that was not possible with the old design. The open design also allows better airflow also helping keep the carriages cooler.
Im pretty sure they wont be able to run the Aircon underground doe to heat buildup in tunnels
@TeckPanda yeah, But that just is transferring the heat, Cooler on the train, But where is the excess heat going to go, Probably it will make the deep level stations warmer 🤔
@@Markus117d And they are seriously warm already. My wife, who was at the time a fit and healthy 25 year old, fainted on a deep level station one summer's day.
It’s not simply the small windows:
1. Ribbon glazing on the exterior would not only cover the chunky frames/columns, it would provide a much sleeker appearance. Let’s hope future iterations might use this visual trick.
2. On the inside, windows could have been made taller, giving a larger glass area and leaving the thick columns in place… that’s assuming that ALL the columns are indeed being used for the AC. I’m doubtful that all are being used for that purpose.
Being a retire Pic line worker I can't wait to see these wonderful better access trains, thank you for showing this video.
This looks like a massive improvement over the current fleet, bravo to the engineers!
I love the old ones, but these new trains are really nice! And love the lamps at the poles! A great detail!
You know this is a good vid when it reaches trending
Love your passion and excitement. Well done Geoff.
I’ve been excited for these ever since the rendered “New Tube for London” video from ages back. Somehow I didn’t expect the design to actually look the way the render showed it, but Siemens has absolutely delivered on that! Not sure when I’ll get to visit London next, but hopefully I’ll get to see these when I’m there!
I've been expecting this video since I saw Geoff in Rags Martel's video last Saturday! I look forward to a more comfortable ride on the Tube from 2025!
Cant wait to see this train on the network! The picc (and bakerloo) are in dire need of replacement
Siemens has specially built a new factory for new orders in Goole, but TfL is currently skint.
I hope by "dire replacements" you mean "in dire need of replacement" and not "replacements that are dire"
Hopefully the government will full it finger out and buy the Bakerloo line these trains as well, an Central Line as well from 2035. The bigger the order the smaller the cost, an having all three on the same designs would allow for great efficiency savings I imagine.
Thanks Geoff for taking the time to travel to Germany to show this to us. These look great. We should place an order for a few for the Sydney Metro.
Finally some new trains on the Picadilly line! I used to change carriages at stops so I could get to the one that was nearest my exit, now I can just walk up and down. Also means we won't have people opening the windows at the end of the carriage and turning it into a noisy wind tunnel
:) 🤣
Until the aircon fails.
Well then you're screwed as there's no windows to open.
Especially because the Siemens Aircon in most German trains is really unreliable
walk through means it's also easier for beggers and busker. A common sight on S stock
This video reminds me of the Class 717s being built in Germany, which you made a video of Geoff in 2018. I'm sure this video mirrors it. Amazing 👏👏
I'm actually working on that project. Looking forward to have it finally being deployed to London Underground, as it kept me busy most of the summer and still is sometimes.
Brilliant as usual, Geoff. Very interesting about the long/short carriage formation…agree with you about the pointless exterior door opening buttons
Geoff, thanks, as ever, for that informative update. Re your query at around 8 mins 4 secs about provision of door buttons, I suspect they have been provided now so that they are available for passengers when the stock is cascaded to the Isle of Wight in the year 2095.
had no idea there is gonna be a new train. Thanks. I love the way you do whatever is necessary to film your shots, even if that means people will be staring or maybe even laughing a bit like at mark 3:30 when you are pretty much on the floor :D that shows dedication.
I too was slightly underwhelmed with the original press release photos but seeing it “live “ definitely looks a lot better and I’m going to be interested the see the new : almost revolutionary idea of bogie-less carriages . Another innovation by TfL.? Thanks for bringing this to us GM,
I love the 1972 stock, it’s so nostalgic for me too. Loved riding it as a kid. Deffo going to miss them! This new stock does look fine though 👍🏻 I wish it could all be built and tested in the UK.
I'm impressed that Geoff can fit in an overhead bin. I haven't been able to do that since I was 20.
Buttons on the doors might be used if the train doors are on a timer, so if the train is stopped at a station for longer than usual due to an incident the doors might close automatically and then any late arriving passengers can press the button to open them again, same as most non tube trains.
Thanks for this Geoff. Cracking video
Your interest and enthusiasm is infectious. 🥳
I love the lights at the front too! Makes it feel more futuristic
Thanks for this, Geoff. I don't know whether to be pleased for "my own" line, as it will soon have the newest trains on the system, or sad about the impending loss of the 1973 stock, which I've grown very used to (I'm old enough to remember when it was first introduced in the 1970s), and which has stood the test of time pretty well. I'm also pretty sorry for the poor old Bakerloo Line, whose trains have not stood the test of time so well, but which is not going to get new ones for yet a while.
With you on Bakerloo Line trains. They shld be next
Why do you say the 1972 stock haven't stood the test of time? I'm genuinely curious
@@S1lverArr0w Every report I've seen about the1972 stock says it's now getting unreliable and subject to ever more frequent breakdowns. To be fair on it, it was only ever ordered as a temporary stopgap measure (for the Northern Line originally, I think) and was never intended to be in use anything like this long; even for stuff that is not intended to be temporary, the normal lifespan of train stock is normally estimated as an average of about 40 years, and the 1972 stock is now 51. But contrast the 1973 stock is still pretty sprightly for its age (it was actually introduced starting in 1975 I think, so it's not quite 50 yet), and I understand it's being replaced primarily because of accessiblity problems (no wheelchair spaces) but also for other reasons e.g. air conditioning. All this of course applies equally to the 1972 stock, but that doesn't have to serve London's main airport! The Bakerloo Line is therefore not considered such a priority. That's about all I know, but perhaps others more knowledgeable may be able to say more.
Maybe they will move the ‘73 stock to the Bakerloo line!
@@Shalott63That might mean that the 1973 stock goes to the Bakerloo Line…
Great job Geoff enjoyed watching it
It looks amazing! Thanks so much for showing us!
Excellent video Geoff. Really looking forward to seeing the new trains on the Piccadilly line.
Fascinating! Thanks for that Geoff! A big train set! Your measuring the carriage interior, reminds me of when I was a lot younger, crawling all over the interior of Q stock on the district line taking measurements with my mum's tape measure! In order to make models of them.
You made models? That’s actually pretty cool.
I was waiting for this video! I am fully excited to ride this futuristic new rolling stock as I am local to the Piccadilly Line and it will be my most favourite line when the new trains enter service. I am also glad that the decision to put the 2024 Stock on the Bakerloo line next has been reconsidered because it would be unwise to replace 1992 Stocks before the 1972 Stock as those trains are a good twenty years older
I cannot wait for one of these to make their way to Alderney😂
I believe they're having to do some upgrades on the platform to accommodate these new trains. I was in the running for a job of modelling existing stations from point clouds, so they could place new platform camera for the driver for the new trains - as doors would be different positions.
Can’t wait to ride on the new Piccadilly Line trains in 2025! Awesome video Geoff as always 😀👍🏻
Wow!! Tube train design sure has come a long way. These new 2024 stock sure look sleek, don't they? So jealous of you getting to see one for real, Geoff!!
Looooved this trip report :) can’t wait to enjoy the new trains in London! 😍
My friend, you brought a lot of light into the life of this sad, skint 40 something, and for that I can't thank you enough. You showed me a world and to a degree, the world. Thank you again.
Looks very nice
I guess the stock is articulated which saves weight and keeps the train upright in the event of a mishap. Nice touch with the conductor rail having been boarded in on the sides for safety reasons. Good job DC repels! Germany has conductor rails but with side contact. Another excellent video Geoff.
Germany only has third rail for the three true U-Bahn systems, and their exact systems are all a bit different. Even within Berlin you have side and bottom contact I think
Looking forward to these. I live above a Northern Line tunnel entrance and can remember the nocturnal grinding noises as the slight modifications were made to allow the 95 stock to fit!
Playing with new stuff gets fun. I am often picked to work with the testing of the R211 here in New York. Even got to play with the gangway train a few weeks ago.
The new stock looks beautiful 👏👏👍😎
I love your videos so much Geoff!
thanks Matt, very kind!
@@geofftech2 No problem. I was meant to come and see you in York in 2020 but it was cancelled due to covid, sadly.
Ahhh thanks for the explanation on the long-short floating carriages. Clever.
Nice - looking forward to riding on them. I recall seeing the 'new' Victoria line trains mock ups just before they were introduced. Doesn't seem very long ago, but probably was.....
REALLY hoping the BUTTONS get used because coming from the tunnels underground in London it gets COLD when the doors auto open in the Hounslow area.
I really noticed that when returning from Bangkok in February a few years ago. It was roasting hot there & comfortable in the airports & plane, then the doors opened at one of the stations on the Picc & the freezing air hit me.
Bakerloo line is a oven tho
@@Leojw10another reason to only open doors passengers will actually use - keep the air conditioned air in! You don’t want too hot OR too cold air getting in.
At least you get fresh air not recirculated aircon air.
Very nice! Very futuristic! Can't wait!
Also I like the Captain Joe music!
Was totally wondering how far I'd have to scroll to see his name come up 🙂
@@justinhayes6911 Haha, how far was it?
@@aeronautic2374 not far at all! :)
@@justinhayes6911 Nice! I spent all of the video wondering where I'd heard that music before!
Fantastic man thanks a lot for this lovely piece of video
Thanks for the update
I like your new trains because they still look like the old ones. In Paris, new trains are so different...
I mean the walk-through design and the "floating" intermediate cars are quite different! (only the 1st, 3rd, 5th, 7th and 9th cars have wheels!)
Technically they are different but London Underground stayed with most of their aesthetics
I was thinking that. A complete change could have been fun, but there is a lot to be said to update old designs. Especially one that is do iconic
For sure, but from abroad, they have the same iconic shape. Compare that with the metro line 6 in Paris, it recently changed and it's completely different @@RoamingAdhocrat
@@cheeseparis1 Tube trains are a very tight fit in the tunnels. They really couldn't be any other shape. And the three windows in the front are dictated by the need for an emergency door in the cab front - again because of the narrow gap between train and tunnel wall, making evacuation through the side doors impossible.
These new sets are going to be a very worthy addition. I can see this IM concept being used everywhere from now on. Lighter, less track wear, less maint costs...
That did look fun. Well done. Can't wait.
Nice trains. After travelling from Sydney, I travelled to Cockfosters as it was raining a lot. I didn’t realise the doors nearly squashed me as I jumped in late. I learnt a lesson.
Great to see this coming alive, replacing the old tube stock that TFL has put off refurbishing because they know that this will come soon!
Those seats looks very hard and uncomfortable.
Fantastic video on future rolling stock Geoff, loved it! Please keep them coming :)
I love the look of those square windows! Looks very futuristic
8:14 Maybe they are in use when the train is stopped for longer at terminal stations so the AC can work effectively
Didn't think of that !!
As much as I do love the 1973 stock, I will be kind of sad to see them go. They really don’t look 50 years old in my opinion. Are the buttons going to close at the end of the line like they do on the s stocks?
Don’t worry the bakerloo line trains won’t go anywhere’s
@@muhammedsaiful-haq7971 Yes they will.
Yeah
@@muhammedsaiful-haq7971they might use the 24 stock to replace them
@@jamesuk1704 my understanding is that there are contract options on more of the 24 stock to potentially replace existing stock on the Bakerloo, the Central and the Waterloo & City... it mostly depends on TfL having the money available for replacing those trains
Ohhhh that's just BEAUTIFUL!! Absolutely delicious~ =D
Reminds me of a modern take of the 1992 stock, which is definitely one of my favourites!
its great to see some history retained along with modern technology great insight Geoff
I am genuinely exited for the new trains as they look like a huge upgrade from the 1973 stock. Although it will be sad to see them go.
a huge upgrade? Do they?
I can’t wait to ride these trains when they go in to service. Although I do live in the Netherlands
Same here. Bit weird, I'm more excited about London tube stock than new NS stock. Groeten ;)
Another Dutchie here - I think I rode all types of tube stock that are currently on the network when I last visited London back in 2018. (And whatever was running on the East London Line, for good measure.) I would certainly like to go back at some point and ride these.
As for NS stock: I rode the ICNG. It’s decent enough, but feels more like a fancy Sprinter that just happens to reach 200 km/h. Having a table was nice, though.
Just wait guys for that Wilders will do to your country.
Another brilliant video Geoff
maybe buttons will be used in the future, at terminal stations when keeping heat in, or by cleaners