Ruger LCP II 22 Lite Rack review - Pocket size protection
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- Опубліковано 7 вер 2024
- Thr Ruger LCP II "Lite Rack" .22, is a compact easy to manipulate .22 caliber semi auto pistol that is optimized for high velocity .22lr ammo. Ten +1 capacity and an easy to rack slide, combined with it's compact size make it a good choice for concealed carry if you choose to carry a .22 for personal protection.
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You convinced me to never buy Winchester .22 ammo ever again. The McCarbo trigger spring kit and replacement trigger do wonders for these LCP II pistols.
I just present my findings, you get to make the decisions! Lol, Thanks for watching!
Winchester 22lr ammo is trash
I had similar problems out of mine, light primer strikes new out of the box. Almost wrote it off as a defensive tool because of it, but i really wanted it to work for when it does run it fit my needs perfectly. So after some research i found the galloway precision spring kit. It has been one of the most reliable firearms ive ever had since installing that kit. Havent found an ammo it doesnt like after putting that kit in. I keep it clean and it just works now, carry it everywhere i am allowed for the last year or so. Love this pistol.
Sometimes I wish the manufacturer would work closer with the aftermarket industry. The aftermarket usually finds a way to improve a product. Thanks for watching!
Awesome!! I just ordered the spring kit for mine! Did you leave the factory trigger in? I actually don’t mine the stock trigger but I’m considering ordering the Sigurd trigger they sell, but it’s currently out of stock. Thanks ❤️🇺🇸
See my comment above. I hope you're right but it's a pretty expensive pea shooter to begin with.
@@bangsnap2651😊
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Almost seems like the Manufacturer's do it on purpose so the aftermarket can get a piece of the pie
Bought this gun about a year ago. Had similar issues with Aguila ammo. Sent it to Ruger, and they replaced the spring, and tested it. Sent it back to me, and I haven't had any issues since. Ruger's customer service was great.
Good to know, thanks for sharing! Thanks for watching too!
Could of done it yourself
I stopped using Winchester 22lr a couple years ago. It won't run very well in ANY gun I have. That seems like a decent pistol. 🇺🇸
I've had more issues with Winchester .22lr than any other .22lr
I am definitely going to get one of these! Thank you Richard
You're welcome. I hope you enjoy it!
I had terrible problems with light primer strikes with my LCP 22 when it was new. It was also very ammo fussy. Now that it's broke in, it seems to shoot everything without issue. Fun little gun!
Good to know. There were a couple strikes that looked a little light and some that looked okay. Hopefully it just needs a break in, I like when they eat anything. Thanks for the info and thanks for watching too!
I have the same problem and mine is still new... so that's good to hear!!!
I bought one of these about a month ago, it seemed to like those Federal punch rounds, also had success with the CCI ammo, I have since installed the red Viridian laser on it
Bought this at a gun show about 2 weeks ago, very disappointing. I'm using CCI ammo, and literally every other shot the gun is jamming. I've probably shot 150 rounds already and it's the same thing, I find this very frustrating. Ready to sell!!!
@@elizabethbowen1606 I was very frustrated too at first. Try a different brand of ammo to see if that helps.
This pistol has my mom written all over it. Thanks for reviewing it. I always use sticky holsters with pocket pistols.
Just find an ammo that it likes. Thanks for watching!
Nice review. I keep this next to my keys and always goes with me, even when I take my Glock. It did take a couple hundred rounds to break it in but has been flawless for several hundred rounds. Ruger knocked this one out of the park in my opinion. Keep up the good work.
I kind of like it myself. Thanks for watching!
1) I would NEVER try to fire a light primer strike or rim fire round a second time. 2) I freakin love the whole range set up! It’s like a living room, with a bar, and the painting of the girl with the A$5!!! 😂👍🏽
I'm curious to know why you wouldn't try a dud round a second time? Lol, thanks! I need to change out that picture, i have a couple more of the same theme! Thanks for watching!
@@SmallCaliberArmsReview no way man keep that pic it’s amazing 👍🏽 I worry about squib loads, rounds that get struck but don’t fire then BOOM!!!! That’s why😎👍🏽
I haven't had one do that yet, not saying it couldn't happen though. The other pics are pretty amazing too!
Thanks for the review. Good info! I got my LCP II 22 last week. So far the only issues I've had were with Winchester ammo. Other than that I'm at nearly 500 rounds and it runs like a clock.
Winchester seems to be a problem in a lot of guns. I'm glad it's working well for you and keeps on going. Thanks for watching!
Winchester doen't feed in mine at all. Remingtom Golden Bullets work great.
@@fpav4049 I like the Golden Bullets ant the Thunderbolts.
Almost all round nose goes nice. Problem is with the hollow point. All brands
First round of Winchester in my glock 10mm only went half way down the barrel .
Excellent video! My LCR is excellent and the only problem I've had was with Winchester ammo. All failures to fire. When I pulled the bullets, I found little or no priming compound in the cases. Its especially concerning that the PREMIUM, high dollar Winchester Silvertip round that someone may depend upon for defense, has the same lame-ass quality control as their junk bulk ammo. Use CCI. Even their low end stuff goes bang every time in my experience.
Thank you! Sad to hear about the Silvertips. I agree, if they advertise it as self defense ammo, they should pay close attention during the QA/QC process. It is a fun little gun. Thanks for watching!
What kind of CCI ammo do you like for the LCR revolver?
The only ammo that gave some issues (2 out of 500+ rounds) was the Blazer (CCI) bulk stuff, but the rounds looked like they were successfully struck so I didn’t blame the gun either. The only other thing I’ve ever shot in it is Federal Punch and I haven’t had issues with that.
Really glad to see you review this. You're the first I've seen do it in 22lr. I think I like what I see for 299. Ruger should forego the loader and add another mag in my opinion. Thanks for a quality review.
That would be a good move on their part if they did. The loading tool isn't needed for the .22 version, they load easy. I don't think deleting the tool would offset the price of an extra mag but it would probably help sell more of them. The 299 was a sale price, 409 was the MSRP, I think the average street price is about 330ish. Thanks for watching!
@@SmallCaliberArmsReview I bought 4 extra mags and a belt carrier for them for mine... thanks for this review!
@@SaintBrianTheGodless Thank you for watching!
finally this is what I was looking for! I'm carrying this gun in the summer in shorts and I want to have at least some punch if needed for self defense. I keep buying high velocity ammo thinking it's the recoil from the round that is causing my next chambered round to fail, looks like it's the brand of ammo.
I'm sure this ammo would run through a rifle just fine. If someone makes a handgun chambered for .22lr ammo, it better fire .22lr ammo all damn day!!!
I've seen guns that seem to "like" one brand better than another. You should always try different brands with a new gun, at least with rimfires anyway. Centerfire guns are much more reliable by design but, they can be picky eaters too. Thanks for watching!
try Velocitors
Excellent review. I had very similar experiences with my former LCP ll 22lr. Sent it to Ruger repair twice for misfeeds, light primer strikes and poor accuracy including keyholing.
They replaced the barrel and slide which fixed everything except for the light primer strikes. Any Olin ammo-Winchester/Browning, had the most light primer strikes. CCI, Aguila and Federal ammo between 1200 and 1300 FPS worked best. I think the Lite Rack easy slide operation may be too easy. I kept all of the light primer stuck ammo and they all fired from a different 22lr.
There were a couple rounds that appeared to have light strikes and a couple that looked okay. I believe that may be the biggest issue with this little pistol though. I may have to do more testing/tinkering! Thanks for watching!
It's funny how each pistol or rifle can be unique itself ammo wise. I have the Ruger LCP II .22LR and even though I have not put a ton of ammo through it yet I've only tried high velocity ammo so far shooting it with no problems. Recently watched .22 Plinkster do a review on this pistol and he said Ruger recommends high velocity ammo in this gun, but Plinkster was using the CCI standard 1070 in his Ruger LCP II .22lr with no problems. Ha watched another guys video on Ruger LCPII .22lr and he was running all brands of ammo, but said it was hanging up on CCI standard 1070,go figure.
@@NLINE7 you never really know until it's in your hands.
@@SmallCaliberArmsReview I agree 👍.
Have an lcpll 22lr, cci mini mags and stingers work great
Mine runs good. Put the Hogue grip on it. Made it a fun plinker. I did send a different gun (LCR 22mag) back to Ruger that I purchased used. They decided the gun couldn't be fixed and sent me a brand new gun. That's pretty awesome customer service. Winchester 22lr ammo sucks.
Well that bites, I like .22mag. Yes, I've had the worst luck with Winchester ammo. Thanks for watching!
mine has run flawless right out of box... have approx 2k round through mine. you can use spent casing rim as tool to pull pin... tk custom makes mag bumpers to get 14+1 capacity and there is a company that will thread the barrel too!!
Reading through all the comments, there are people that have had many mixed results. Some say it depends on the brand of ammo they used and some say it needed a "break in" period. It's hard to make a decision on one video, I may have to revisit this one in the future! Thanks for watching!
Threaded barrels everywhere now
Love the Bobcat. More of a 3032 fan... but that mag release is a problem for a lot of people. I don't think it's much of a problem myself though. Think it's one of the best pocket guns ever invented.
Both times I went to the store to buy one, the mag release ruined it for me. I'm not saying it's a bad gun at all, I just couldn't make myself get it. I might some day, just not today. I do agree, the Tomcat is a sleeker looking pistol. Thanks for watching!
That was a good video the LCP 2 is a good gun . I have had problems with the Winchester ammunition It's not want it used to be.
There are differences between manufacturers and sometimes you'll get a gun that seems to only like a certain one. I also like the little pistol, good shooter. Thanks for watching!
Your shoot'n shack rocks.
Thank you! Thanks for watching too!
Yep. You're having the same sort of issues I did; but mine never got over it and settled down.
Well that bites, maybe mine could have the same fate as yours! Thanks for watching!
Oooooo!!! I like this gun. Thanks, Ricardo.
No problemo Hombre!
Really wish Ruger would include 2 magazines with every firearm they sell.
You also might be able to start the takedown pin with your nail and then wedge the rim of a 22 case underneath it. Obviously easier just to use a screwdriver, but I guess if you're in a pinch that might work.
Every pistol should include two magazines! I imagine the pin will get easier with time. Thanks for watching!
We bought our lcp ll almost a year ago and tested a dozen different brands of ammo (100 rds per) through it...we immediately discarded all Winchester, Aguila, and Federal for too many failures...the only ammo to pass 100 round test were cci 36gr mini-mags, blazers, and thunderbolts...because we had so many failures during testing we do not trust the gun and keep it for a range toy...the rare times we carry .22lr it is in a revolver... -i think the problem everybody seems to have with the winchester stems from the funny shaped nose of the bullet, if it was rounded perhaps it would feed better...?
Thunderbolts have always been my "go-to" ammo for reliability. Sadly the 550 round boxes are hard to find and when you do, they're way overpriced. Thanks for watching!
Had the same problems with mine. Installed a spring kit from galloway precision in mine and it performs flawlessly now. Their spring kit puts 10% more pressure on the hammer, and the ejector. 10%less on the firing pin return spring and I believe the slide spring if i recall correctly. What ever scorcery they did with it, it worked wonders in mine. I believe ruger was trying to do alot in as small of machine as possible and in pushing everything to its tiny limits just didnt work with some ammo. The 10% changes in the springs made a world of difference. Only ammo mine doesnt like now it the cci stingers. Has run everything else ive fed it flawlessly. Remington golden bullet, thunder bolts, cci standard,and even the semi auto quiet… for science, aguila super maximum both 40 gr round nose and 38 gr hollow point, the winchester bulk he had problems with and federal punch
@MrGriff305 mine is the lite rack. I don't think I actually have any mini-mags left. The only thing I've ran through it, is what's in the video. The only problems that I've encountered are also in the video. I'd love to get it out again and do some more shooting but one day for filming just isn't enough. Thanks for watching!
@MrGriff305 oops, sorry. Dirty? Yes. Unreliable? I haven't had very many bad rounds of Thunderbolts.
@MrGriff305 we ran the 40gr mini-mags at 98-99%...the 36gr mini-mags ran at 99-100%...last week I ran an old box of federal champion at 100%, which surprised me...I will note that with one exception, most of the problems seem to begin 60-70 rounds into the count, as the gun becomes dirtier, applied to all brands of ammo...everyone says to change to the Galloway springs, but that will have to wait until the factory springs wear out...oh, well...
Know 2 wimmen who got these and after a coupla boxes of cartridges for a break-in and a bit of strategic lube (oil), they both work fine and reliably.
There's a lot of guns that need a little breaking in to function correctly. Thanks for watching!
Just got one these , have had the Beretta for awhile. Like them both. 21A does not like Federal punch at all , mini mags work perfectly.
I think Federal Punch would be great for revolvers. Thanks for watching!
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Mine is reliable with CCI HV ammo. Put some white paint on the front sight. Fun little gun and cheap to shoot. Thanks for posting.
Fun and accurate too, when it doesn't have issues. I'm going to try a good, deep clean and lube as well as try some different ammo. Thanks for watching!
I started to get light primer strikes and Ruger sent me a new slide assembly. Great customer service and so far so good. Very fun to shoot.
Mine also had lots of issues with Winchester SuperX 1280fps... The 1300fps I only shot one box of and it worked alright. I had great luck with the Winchester 1330fps but that is a very rare box that doesn't seem to exist now (this was years ago). But it likes Federal Bulk.
I've always had good luck with Remington Thunderbolts but I haven't used and of the new ones yet.
@@SmallCaliberArmsReview Golden Bullet & Federal American Eagle literally wouldn't cycle in my gun. Thunderbolt I had pretty good luck with as well.
I have a couple of the "Bucket-O-Bullets" Golden bullets but haven't tried any of those yet.
@@SmallCaliberArmsReview that's what my friend had and they didn't work for me
The Winchester and Federal gave me problems FTF and FTE. CCI Blazer CCI Mini-Mag and Remington Thunderbolt (bulk) ran perfectly for me. Aproximately 1000 rounds each of CCI and Remington without a single failure. Can't get through a single magazine of Winchester or Federal without at least 2 failures. I told my wife to stick with the CCI for carry and Remington for practice. (although the FTE & FTF makes for good practice)
I like Remington myself. Thanks for watching!
The Taurus tx22 is the only reliable 22 it will eat any kind of ammo you put in it it's a shame they don't build it in a small gun I'm glad I watch this video I like little 22 pocket guns but I will not be adding the LCP 22 to my list
I had pretty good luck with the KelTec P17, I think it's a little smaller than the TX22.
Tx22 compact is my favorite gun!!!!!!!
Winchester bulk '555" rounds per box guarantee failure. CCI standad, Rem Golden Fiochhi all work.
I've always had good luck with Remington Thunderbolts. I hope to see them return to the shelves soon. Thanks for watching!
I haven’t had great luck with Winchester Amo, nice 22
Many of my viewers have said that about Winchester. I'm a fan of Remington Thunderbolts and their Golden Bullets too.
Don't use screwdrivers, nails or anything metal to remove the take down pin on these. They will scratch and mar the finish. Use dental floss simply hooking around and underneath the head of the take down pin and pull up. Your pistol won't be all chewed up after some use like it will be using metal tools.
There's an idea. Thanks for watching!
MCarbo has a $10 replacement takedown pin that you can pull out without a tool.
MCarbo has a lot of items that fix the factory mistakes of manufacturers. Thanks for watching!
Had one for about a year but could not get consistently reliable performance with any ammo. Winchester was worst and Federal HV Match was best but still not good enough to depend on it. Traded it off to help fund a 351pd.
I'm not a fan of picky eaters or ones that need 10,000 rounds to break in. Thanks for watching!
@@SmallCaliberArmsReview Anothet round mine sort of liked were those 45 graib Federal suppressed ones.
I just picked up one of these little pistols, plan to visit the range soon. I paid $329.99 local shop price and also got a 2 pack of magazines for $42.99. I'll be taking Aguila, CCI, & Federal ammo to the range.
I hope you enjoy it. Be safe and have fun! Thanks for watching.
I've ran four different brands of HV ammo threw mine with zero failure's. I did a full cleaning and oil fresh out of the box.
I just did a light cleaning, mostly of the barrel to make sure there were no obstructions. Maybe I'll do a thorough clean and lube and try again. What ammo brands have you used successfully?
@@SmallCaliberArmsReview CCI mini mag, Remington golden bullet, aguila super extra and Norma USA target round.
@@charlese.prospecting6627 I can give 3 of those a try, I don't think I have any Mini Mags left. Thanks for the info!
I broke my LCP II .22 in today and was floored by the accuracy I got, even at 50 yards, had only 1 FTF to on the first Mag,
Got some vids up and a few shorts, bought the LCP II as a trainer for my LCP max and a plinker, im definitely going to improve the front sight, probably do a fine tall shotgun bead in front of the front sight, this gun is plenty accurate enough for pest control and would make a good gun for survival small game hunting in a pinch.
Cool! 50yds is kind of tricky with a little short barrel like these. I used to take 100yd shots with different pistols, just to see if I could. Thanks for watching!
Heres a few at a small Shillouette hanging below target reset rack
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I had to really focus on the front sight and lost it easy, really want the sights they put on the LCP max on the .22
I have had the Ruger LCP II since it was first introduced and picked up the LCP Max a month or so ago. Both are in 380. I spend a lot at the gun range so when I found the option to fire 22 LR from an LCP I jumped at it. I just picked up a new LCP II in 22LR. Can't wait to shoot it.
Other uses have merit but for me, the huge cost savings were the primary factor.
I agree, 22 is fun and cheap-ish. Have fun, be safe and thanks for watching!
I went the reverse order you did. Got the 22 first then the 380 by somewhat happy mistake, it was supposed to be another 22. Tho the 380 has been nothing but reliable with no modifications out of the box, for some reason i shoot the 22 version exceptionally better than its 380 counterpart. So after some work to make the 22 extremely reliable, i now carry it, in the provided holster, everywhere im allowed to. It is always on me. I love it
I would imagine the lesser recoil of the .22lr is why.@@frederickjeremy
All 22 pistols since its rimfire will surely have issue on ammo the best one in my experience and honest opinion nothing beats the TAURUS TX22....
I like the TX22, the Keltec P17 and I don't think I ever had a single issue with my Ruger SR22. The SR22 eats thunderbolts like a fat kid eats cake! (or me with Milky Ways) Thanks for watching!
Never had any issues of light primer strikes, in all brands, even cheap bulk, in either the TX-22, or my "elcheapo" Phoenix hp22! It's clearly the pistol! Send it back to Ruger!
Ditto on the tx 22. Mine has been a heck of a machine, just doesn’t fit in my pocket as well as my lcp2. Had alot of the issues in this video with mine initially. Installed a spring kit from galloway precision and it shoots everything flawlessly with the exception of stingers.
Nice gun, bad ammo with .22LR is always going to happen! Thanx for the review!
I agree. Thanks for watching!
Love this video, not to educated on guns gonna start by getting this little guy. I think this helped me learn everything I needed✊🏾🤞🏾
Thank you! I think you'll like the LCP II, it's not too expensive and a pretty good shooter. Thanks for watching!
Welcome to the gun community. I believe you picked a fine way to get started. Happy plinking!
Aguila ammo runs great in the Ruger lcp2 22lr.
I've always had good luck with Aguila, I just didn't try any this time. Thanks for watching!
Super extra run mint in mine
@@jpdaddy678 I like the smell of the Super Extra and I've never had any issues with them.
Just started running aguila in mine for plinking. I to have grown to like their ammo. If you want it to be less picky over ammo i highly recommend installing a spring kit from galloway precision. It made mine super reliable with everything except cci stingers. It still didnt like those but that is it.
Nice little gun, mine doesn't like the Winchester ammo either.
Must be something about Winchester. Thanks for watching!
A very thorough review! Thanks for your very compleat evaluation.
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching too!
Got mine a couple weeks ago. Mine has the Hogue grip sleeve on it and I got some stuff from M*CARBO. Stainless guide rod and recoil spring and the high carbon takedown pin. Very easy to swap out myself. Nice review, love the gun and I bought the CCI Mini Mags for ammo.
Very nice! Thank you for watching!
@@SmallCaliberArmsReview thx for the video!
Tandemkross makes a replacement takedown pin that doesn’t require any tools to remove. One example of a good $10 purchase.
Tandemkross makes a lot of good stuff. Thanks for watching!
Well done great review. I personally like Ruger products I have quite a few This pistol I might leave home and bring a revolver. Or something more reliable.
I don't think you can go wrong with a wheel gun! Thanks for watching!
The pocket holster works very nicely.
I don't like them with jeans, they'd be great in a jacket pocket. Thanks for watching!
I have feeding and light strikes issues with mine as well, that is, with some types of ammo it's bad. I'm also not as accurate with it as my Beretta Bobcat. The Bobcat just gives me a much better purchase on the grip, a better fit, than my Ruger does. Currently I won't carry the Ruger, I just don't trust it, and my accuracy with it. Anyway, thank for the video.👍
I'm not a fan of firearms that are picky eaters myself. Thank you for watching!
Great show. I have great success with CCI mini-mags copper plated 1235 fps.
Thanks! CCI makes some pretty good ammo.
I don't think "light strikes" are the issue... I had a lot of misfires, even with my Ruger 10/22 with Winchester and Browning (especially) and found an article showing how some manufacturers have (very) inconsistent rim thicknesses... i.e. I could use most or all of the misfires in one of my revolvers, and it went off... but it seems if they have less thickness (than "normal") then they don't fire in some (or most) of my semi-auto... After seeing this first hand by comparison with other brands (CCI/Federal/etc) I I traded off all the Browning and Winchester for other brands...
Many people have had issues with Winchester ammo, that could have been my issue as well. Thanks for watching!
SWEET , little gun pard ! Glad you got one ..
Me too. Shoots great with the right ammo. Thanks for watching!
With cci ammo I never have any issues 😊
I like it when they eat everything you feed them. Thanks for watching!
I know this is an old post but….. my gf’s LCP hated Winchester an Armscor constant light primer strikes. Everything else was fine. 👍
I've heard people complain that some brands have harder primers than others. Thanks for watching!
Mine has issues with Winchester Super X. i find that rounder the nose the better it works out of these.
I seem to have more problems with the Winchester ammo myself. Thanks for watching!
According to the failed rounds on the floor at my range, it`s not just your Ruger LCPll that doesn`t like the Winchester, it`s everything that doesn`t shoot it.
That seems to be pretty common with Winchester rimfire ammo. Thanks for watching!
Mine is about 6 months old. Had a few failure to fires in the first 200 rounds that I would have to call as light strikes. Cleared up quickly. Still have the occasional failure to fire, but all I attribute to ammo. Not too picky, but definitely favors higher velocity ammo. I like the firearm, but would stay with my S&W 43C for reliability.
Centerfires are much more reliable than any rimfire. I like the little LCP, it's a fun little pistol. Thanks for watching!
Issue with revolvers thar sometimes gunfight doesn't over with 8 shots of 22lr and reloading one is pita, while you can just in 2 sec reload a whole 10round magazine with lcp2 22lr. When it comes to reliability... clean it, lube it after every range, premium cci ammo + galloway spring kit. And if still will have a light primer strike and feed, train rack the slide fast. It is still faster than reload 8 rounds of revolver
Awesome video, it's my experience that Winchester is pretty bad ammo
I should have broke out the Thunderbolts! Thanks for watching!
@@SmallCaliberArmsReview 😆 🤣 😂
I have been looking forward to your review, thank you sir.
Hope you enjoy it and thanks for watching!
You don’t need to pull the trigger to take apart this gun, and the front rim of the magazine, under the nose of the top round, works to pop out the pin.
No, I know, the problem I had was that I didn't remove the magazine. I did question myself in the video, then discovered what I did wrong. Yes you would need some sort of tool to disassemble, I'm not sure I would use the thin metal of the magazine, especially when new. Any way you look at it, you'll probably need something other than your bare hands for disassembly. There will also be a pin that could be lost if disassembly was done in the field. The Ruger SR22 has a great takedown procedure with no risk of losing a pin. You may never have to actually field strip one actually "In the field" but there is always a possibility. I'm in no way trying to degrade the gun by pointing out the takedown procedure, I just prefer firearms with a simple "no tools" disassembly. Thank you for watching!
Thank you for the review. I have one but I have not taken it to the range.
I think you'll enjoy it when you do get to the range. Thanks for watching!
Mine runs good with aguilla and stingers and mini mags. Gotta clean it when it starts jamming after about a hundred rounds.
Most rimfire ammo is pretty dirty. Enjoy and thanks for watching!
Great review and very well done, thank you.
Thank you, I really appreciate that!
Federal Auto Match on the 4th round gave me a dud. Pushing the barrel back a quarter inch takes some tension off the disassembly pin. CCI Mini Mags work best in my semi autos. I also want the Ruger LCR 22
Thanks for the info, thanks for watching too!
I too have had complete duds with the Winchester Silvertips. Two solid primer strikes and still no bang.
Rimfire isn't always reliable but when the market them as personal defense rounds, they should be 100%. Thanks for watching!
if it ran well id love one but i prefer my old h&r for a backup gun its 9 shots 22lr and is accurate to 50 yards
It definitely seems to be ammo picky. Doesn't seem to like the flavor of the Winchester ammo, it likes Federal ammo. Thanks for watching!
@@SmallCaliberArmsReview they make a 14 round mag for that too a plus four id think that would be a sweet upgrade if it worked
The spring kit from galloway precision tuned mine up to be one of the most reliable firearms i have. Only thing I’ve found it doesn’t like now after installing their kit is cci stingers. I believe the case is too long for the chamber, not sure tho.
I shoot CCI Tactical 40 grain. These seem most accurate in my LCP along with very good performance.
CCI makes some good stuff.
Mine was terrible out of the box. I put in the sigerd spring kit and a stronger recoild spring from mcarbo. now it runs just fine.
Good to hear and thanks for the tip!
Sucks that Ruger puts this garbage out for us to prove fail and then return to ruger. I’m gonna ditch my Ruger POS and look at a Bersa. Yep a bersa. Gotta be better than this LCP 22 POS
Thanks for the great unbiased review. 22 handguns are always lots of fun to shoot, but never ever rely on one for personal protection. The consistent reliability of the .22 cartridge just isn’t there as you have proven. Keep those good reviews coming!
That's the reason J.M.Browning developed the .25ACP. There are some firearms that just never seem to have a problem with rimfire ammo. Thanks for the compliment and thanks for watching!
I hear what your saying about the reliability and fully understand where you are coming from having mowed through brick after of brick of cheap bulk 22 as a youngster, 3-4 duds per brick is common I think we are starting to see a change in the industry, some of the rounds available today are very reliable. The federal punch has been one of them.
$299 is a great deal for that pistol. Good job 👏
I agree. Thank you!
Thanks for the review
Thank you for watching!
I’m getting this next can’t wait !!!!
Try some different brands of ammo, it seems to be picky. Thanks for watching!
If you have problems shooting your favorite ammo out of it, the spring kit from galloway precision can help tremendously. Mine was ammo finicky new out of the box. After installing their spring kit it shoots anything i can get my hands on except cci stingers.
I've been seeing a lot of complaints about Winchester .22 ammo lately. Odd, as it used to be the best. The only .22 ammo I ever had problems with was CCI and I think the Mini Mags in particular, and in only one pistol. Was a high-quality pistol too and all I could ever figure out was that the brass was too thick or hard or something. Or maybe the firing pin spring was just a little bit weak in this particular pistol, but it fired anything and everything else I put in it.
I think they all have bad batches from time to time. I really like Remington Thunderbolts for "bulk" ammo but some people hate it. Sometimes it can be a combination of ammo, weak springs, heavy slides and a gun that just needs cleaned and lubed that cause problems.
That is interesting. CCI MM 40 grain are just flawless in my experiences.
You had more duds than I had in the last 600 Aguilia regular bulk pack.
I'm not sure if it was duds or light primer strikes. I usually save all the ones that don't go off and put them in a revolver to see if they go bang. I haven't done it yet so I couldn't say for sure. Thanks for watching!
I found mine to be light primer strikes mostly, some were the usual bulk ammo duds. But the higher quality ones all went bang when recycled through my 10-22. The spring kit from galloway precision fixed this problem in my lcp2 with every ammo except cci stingers. Highly recommend if you need the lcp2 to be dead nuts reliable for carry purposes.
Seems nice I just got a Walther ppk/s in 22lr. See how it runs soon.
I've been keeping my eyes open for one of them. I can find them in .380 but I want it Blued in .22lr.
@@SmallCaliberArmsReview have you checked out the keltec p17 and taurus tx22?
@@GiorgosC-rp5ms I have both and did a video of them too.
Great video Richard ...
Thanks Shane!
Nice review and especially the testing of various brand ammo. Some reviews suggest changing the trigger to improve the action. What would you suggest? Thank you.
I think leaving it as the factory designed it is fine. Although if you really wanted to make it into a high performance pistol, that's up to you. There are other pistols that might be better suited for a high performance rig. It all depends on your end use. Thanks for watching!
Thank You !
You're welcome!
Like your demonstration .
Thank you! Thanks for watching too!
Thank you for video.
Thank you for watching!
As a gunsmith, my belief is that when they make them, so called, dry fire safe, they are shortening the firing pin, which is causing all these new light strikes. They need to
Just ship a few snap caps with them and allow that firing pin to do it’s job right. This would save a lot of headaches. I hate people blaming the ammo when it’s usually not the cause. But today’s Winchesters are JUNK.
I agree with you. I have had a couple that were shipped with a snap cap and I'll move it from one pistol to another.
Good review i just ordered mine today from buds
Hope you enjoy it!
I found performance was much better with higher velocity ammo.
Good to know, thanks for watching!
I've never had much luck with Winchester ammo.
I not having much either. Thanks for watching!
you got a real nice place, there
Thanks! I've been working on it for a few years, I still have a LOT to do!
I've never had any luck with Winchester ammo.
I haven't had much luck with it either. Thanks for watching!
John Moses browning had a terrible time getting a 22 to work in a small pistol. That’s why he invented the 25 ACP.
I heard it was because he wanted something more reliable than rimfire but still in a small cartridge, and .25acp was the smallest centerfire cartridge that could be made.
Even if you have one that works 100%, not like mine, the ammo is unreliable at best. Going to a small 380 is way better to protect your life with. LCP Max is a great carry. DB9 Gen4 is even better. IMO anyway.
Rimfire ammo is the reason John M. Browning developed the .25acp. The primers for centerfire ammo are much easier to QC than rimfire. Thanks for watching!
Extra Magazine $29.00? My local gun shop has $49.00 on it. I see a lot of places sell the mags in pairs for some reason. I like mine, good shooter, dependable after just a little break in. The example I got also shoots just a wee bit high, but not bad, I can hit good with it. Fun little gun to shoot and you forget it's in your pocket.
I have seen pairs of magazines in line for around $40, I wish I would have ordered those instead. Very fun little pistol. Thanks for watching!
Good job
No place to shoot
In Seattle
For meee
Surely there has to be a range somewhere near you.
If I keep mine clean and lubed it is flawless with mini mags and velocitors . Just like yours it will not shoot Winchesters.
That's the best thing you can do for any firearm, cleaned and lubed. There's just something about Winchester rimfire ammo. Thanks for watching!
I don't see how light primer strikes can be the ammo's fault, but mine also had a high failure with certain ammo - really shot my confidence in the gun. I'm going to see what Ruger says and try other ammo and see if the unfired rounds work in another gun. Meanwhile I'm real disappointed.
I say light primer strikes but it could really be that the shell thickness is inconsistent. Thanks for watching!
It could use a better spring but one ammo worked flawlessly so the fault is given to both I guess.
Straight from the living room
Straight from the Saloon!
It loves Stingers!
I'm kind of fond of them myself. Thanks for watching!
I have the original 10th anniversary edition LCP
Very nice.
I broke my firing pin from dry firing so much. Ruger sent me a new firing pin no questions asked, but I will not be dry firing anymore
Some guns are made to handle it, and some aren't. Most manufacturers like to keep their customers happy, I'm glad they took care of you! Thanks for watching!
I got a 2pk on Ebay for about the same price as the 1pk usually are
I see them on sale every now and then in the two pack, some day I'll pick up a pair. Thanks for watching.
Need a after market sprig kit
It would probably help.
mine hates the punch but it likes cci velocitors best fun gun
I think the Punch and Silvertip stuff is mostly for revolvers. This makes the second semi auto that didn't like either one of the self defense .22 ammo. Thanks for watching!
@@SmallCaliberArmsReview I believe your exactly right.my tx 22 didn't like the punch either.revolvers have shown good performance though with the punch.
@@badbilly60 I'm a big fan of revolvers myself.
If you havent written it off yet check out galloway precision. They offer a spring kit that fixed my light primer strike problem. Mine eats everything except cci stingers now.
Wow that's expensive 😢 for 22 . I might have to pass . I can find a 22mag for less and you can put down a deer with a 22 mag so it should be suitable to use as a backup
It's all about shot placement.