If someone isn’t comfortable with anything bigger then the 22lr, then I say carry it. Any caliber is better then not having one at all. Not sure why people with bigger calibers cut down on those who carry the 22lr, need to lift other shooters up, bringing down other shooters just leaves more room for anti groups to bring us all down. Carry what you are comfortable with, good shooting and gods speed to KP family and fans. 🎥💪🏽💯👍🙏🏻
I built/assembled 3 pistol caliber carbine type firearms for my wife for home defense. She is petite, not very tough, kind of mouse like. But at the range, firing .22 caliber guns didn't scare her as much. For home defense, it gave her short length firearms that she can hold with 2 hands, lightweight, virtually no recoil, and 25 round magazines. Consider this approach for your wife or kids. The sound is manageable, and low recoil means they stay on target easier and faster. And with 25 rounds, she is trained to fire several rounds to stop the threat. And if there are multiple intruders, she will have enough rounds to serve them all up a plate of justice. By now the gun community hopefully has shushed the macho exaggerating fools who say the .22 doesn't kill, or bounces around, or doesn't go through clothes. None of these people would volunteer to test those theories. Fact is, especially in a PCC, high velocity .22lr is going to penetrate, expand, and most likely stop someone immediately. Just the sound of being fired on makes 99% of intruders retreat. And if my wife has fire 10 rounds of .22, I have no doubt that will stop them. If not, well then a .38 or a 9mm wasn't going to stop them either. Its an affordable round, cheaper to practice with, and practice is one huge step towards better defense.
Whatever works man. I don't care what caliber you use as long as it keeps your family safe its all that matters. We are hillbillies lol. My wife shoots 45-70, 454 Casull, a 50AE, shotguns with 3" magnums. My son shoots his own deer with a .243. He hunts turkey and small game with a 20ga and I have him on video on this channel doing mag dumps with an AR when he was six. I would just say train with it, be able to clear a malfunction , and don't worry about what the gun community says. Thanks for watching. God bless you and yours :-)
@@TheKentuckyPatriot I am old and have lots of arthritis now and have been stepping down in calibers as I age. At this point my prefered gun is a S&W 380 EZ, but maybe in a few years I might end up depending on a 22. A 22 doesn't have the energy to create much of a shockwave cavity in tissue like a larger caliber so placement becomes more critical, and it may take more than a couple of rounds to deter a home invader. Truth is most folks will lose their motivation once they get hit, though some may just get more aggressive and since the 22 LR lacks the kind of stopping power of larger calibers it may require multiple rounds to stop them, so having a very reliable gun and reliable ammo can make all the difference.
@@wilycoyote9091 Very well stated. You have lot's of experience and from reading your comment I can tell you have a vast knowledge of firearms and ammo capabilities. A well placed .22 will do wonders. Thanks for watching. May God richly bless you and yours 🙂
@@TheKentuckyPatriot True, well placed 22 round can end the threat. When I was growing up my brother got shot in the gut with a single 22 and almost didn't make it. I don't underestimate its ability in hands of an experienced person.
In my youth, there was a story in the local newspaper about a family in our neighborhood, in which someone was killed by an accidental discharge from a .22lr rifle in the home. It turned out that I knew this family through my church. One day I was visiting their home, and I saw the hole in the bedroom door made by the .22 bullet in the middle of its trajectory from muzzle to victim. I asked, and my host confirmed that this was indeed the hole left by the bullet that day. Mind you, this was an older home with solid wood doors, not modern hollow ones. That a single .22 round could be fatal, even when not carefully aimed and after passing through a solid wood door, made quite an impression on me. Then there's the case of the world record largest grizzly bear being killed by a single round from a .22lr. Now, that round was carefully, expertly placed... but, even so!
I don't know why people use that same quote to defend the .22lr. No one will stand in front of it the same way they would not volunteer to stand in front of scissors, knives, fire crackers, bricks, stone, bats, etc. A better explanation of the effectiveness of .22lr would be the following scenario. If you were captured by the enemy and they gave you the option to shoot you in the head with a .22lr or a 9mm from 7 yards away, and you had no other choice or say in the decision, which will you plead for them to use?
@@joer8386 excellent rebuttal and 100% true. I have made fun of the imbeciles who promote using .22LR as a defense weapon. Simply dumb AF! Yes, better than a sharp stick but not better than a .380, 9mm, .38, .357, .44, .40, .45, ….for gods sake even the ..22mag is significantly better. Why would anyone choose the .22LR. Why?????!
@@number4777. Another thing I hate defenders of the 22lr keep saying is that more people die from 22lr.... BUT, they keep out important information about that statistic. 1) They do not mention the length of time it took for that person to die. Yes, you can die from a 22lr, but it is usually after a long time before you bleed out. A criminal will have plenty of time to cause a lot of damage against you before he succumbs to that bullet. 2) They also fail to mention that because the 22LR is low-cost, everyone has it, especially in poorer neighborhoods where people can't afford more expensive ammo. There is a reason that more crime is committed with the 22LR: It is cheaper to use compared to other ammo. I would not risk my life depending on that calibre to defend me. I will stick to stronger ammo. I even have a .380 as a backup gun using Lehigh defense ammo because it has controllable recoil but a lot more power than a 22lr. That ammo will go through a lot. Especially in the winter months.
Good video. Granted, a .380 or 9mm would be a better all-around EDC round, but the low recoil of a .22lr will allow you to stay "on target" without having to take that split second to re-acquire for follow-up shots. And besides, I've heard it said that "Any gun is better than no gun!".
Thank you so much for watching. I don't carry a .22 for edc. I have on a unique occasion if we are going frog gigging or hunting. I just carry it instead of two guns. I am not advocating a .22 because personally I think there are better options. Some people that do carry a .22 have asked about videos like this so I was trying to oblige. God bless you and yours :-)
The main factor with 22 is penetration. Forget expansion as a significant factor from a handgun. The 22 is a burst fire round, and can seriously injure or kill. Most of these ballistic models don’t factor in the bullet ricocheting off ribs and pelvic bones , creating more damage than expansion would.
I am a funeral director and embalmer by trade. Usually a .22 is hole in and hole out. It's not impossible to ricochet off a pelvic bone but the round won't dance around just takes a different course. Thanks for watching :-)
@@TheKentuckyPatriot Agenda is noted. Your attacker is likely to have a larger caliber weapon so why would you go with the smaller option? This is your life or your families lives you are talking about here and you want to use .22LR.. A round not even designed to be used in pistols.
You may come up against an armor clad attacker. You will need deadly surgical precision to hit the vulnerable areas. The 22 in the Walther TPH makes for a deadly accurate primary or backup weapon when conceal is a real necessity
Already saw my brother get shot in the leg with a22 took less than 10 minutes for him to go into shock Not like the movies where the guys are running around on steroids
Glad to hear people that know what they are talking about. I carry whatever suits me that day from .22Lr-.357 and when I carry .22Lr I feel just as safe as I do when I carry .380/ 9mm/ 40 cal. / .357 whatever.
Great test! My Grandma is 98 yrs. old; she shoots a S&W kit gun .22lr, about 10 years ago, she shot an intruder in the ass 5 times, I believe he is still running!
Nice video. Thank you. The .22lr is very under rated, even in a short barrel. Back in the 80's I dispatched a feral dog with a double tap with a .22 Beretta Bob Cat. I believe it was using cheap hollow points. One thing I've found after 50+ years of shooting .22's is that hollow point expansion is somewhat "ify" with most brands, regardless of barrel lenght. I do carry a .22 lr pocket pistol or a pair of .22mag minis for edc often. They have bailed me out of a few bad situations over the years..
Outstanding video, very informative. I've been into .22LR for self defense for some time now, especially for women. They will do the job. A hit with a .22LR is better than a miss with a .44 Magnum. Thanks for the video.
I agree 💯. Many years ago, Mom stopped a guy trying to break into our house. She used a Marlin model 39- 22 caliber. I was 7 at the time. Dad had just bought the rifle from one of his brothers. Paid $20 for it. He gave it to me as my 1st gun. Mom liked shooting it too. Anyway, Dad was working late one night. A guy tried to break in through a window in my bedroom. Mom heard the noise and came running with a hammer. Mom swung the hammer at his arm that was coming through. She grabbed me up and grabbed the Marlin. He then started trying to get in through our locked back door. Mom hollered "I have a gun and I'll shoot !". He ignored her warning and continued to try to break in. Mom fired a shot dead center through the door. We don't know if he was hit or not, but he quickly left. We ran next door to a neighbor that had a phone and called the cops. Mom told them the story when they arrived and showed them the bullet hole in our door. The cop looked at it and said "Good job. If they come back, do it again!". I'm 58 now- and I still have that ole rifle.
Oh yeah, nothing's wrong with 22LR, I love plinking with some 22, and I wouldn't hesitate to use it to defend my life if I had to. Sure, I have larger calibers, but I'm not one of those who say I'd never use such and such for defense:) HA! I like to say, I've never been in a defend my life situation, but I'd still bet when bullets start flying no one around is considering calibers:)
They consider calibers before the SHTF. If 22s were the answer, the FBI, Military, Police, Gun Guys, ect... would all be armed with 22s. I see the need for them but realistically would you reach for a 22 or a 9mm if you were in a bad situation?
@@FoulPet Whatever, I don't buy it and never will. 45 AUTO, 9MM, .357 MAG, ALL bigger and better and all will do more damage than a .22LR I agree However, IF .22LR is being shot at you, YOU, ME, and the world are going to be getting the hell out the way, and we better hope we don't get hit in the head with it:)
@@geico1975 Yes, I agree. If someone is shooting a slingshot, I'm getting out of the way. 22 will give you a dirt nap but. I'm just against people implying it's a good self defense round. In "my" experience, I get about a 1% or more failure rate . I also believe it has a greater chance to be deflected. If it's all you have then it's better than a stick. Chances are that just showing a gun will resolve most problems. Shooting someone with any gun will resolve most of the other ones. In the rare instances that those don't work, rimfire should be the last option.
@@FoulPet Yeah, I would agree with your last few sentences:) HA! My main point in all of this, is if someone felt comfortable and was proficient with .22 and wanted to conceal carry with it, I wouldn't discourage them because of it, I guess.
Hey brother I just want to say thank you for this very informative, honest, entertaining video, I subscribed and liked and shared which is not something I ever do. Even though I've never met you I can tell you are a man with a good heart. Humble, sincere, and just a all around good ol boy! God bless you as well! Salute to you brother from Gun barrel city, Texas
People hate on me all the time for using my Taurus TX22 Compact as an EDC. What they usually fail to consider is that I use CCI Stingers which are 32 grain and rated for 1640fps. I’ve shot thousands of these rounds from my TX22 Compact without a single failure.
No hate here brother. All that matters is that you return safely home. I don't care what people choose as there edc. I just like to do demonstrations and show the pros and cons of each weapon and round. Thanks for watching 🙂
I was actually shocked at the GREAT performance of the TX 22. It eats anything, including some 50-year-old ammo. Caused me to also buy a TX 22 Compact. It is just like the full size. I also have a G 44 and a Sig P322. Both are ammo picky, but the Sig is a real ammo snob. It only works well with CCI, but I haven't tried all the brands in it.
I just had implants in my hands both in left and right. Im really really recoil sensitive now. I’m switching to my Taurus 22 compact with federal punch and stingers. With a Holosun 507k. Light no recoil and 10000% reliable
Thank you for sharing. The description you gave of a projectile deflecting inside the body matches an explanation we were given in Vietnam when the M16 was introduced in the mid-1960s.
I keep a taurus tx22 in my truck at all times, it's accurate as hell, never jams and holds 17 rounds. I also use a 22 rifle to kill critters that attack the chickens, possums, coyote, fox. And yes it will kill a coyote hit in the correct spot. It's a nasty little round coming out of a rifle especially
I have never been coyote hunting but hopefully after the holidays that is about to change. I appreciate you watching and I wish you and yours the very best :-)
You used the best medium for these type of tests. Good work! I carry the same pistol you were using as an EDC, use only CCI Velocities, and practice a great deal.
Agreed re cci. I think the 40 grain mini mag Target actually is very effective to punch through lots of surprising things for edc… I did a video on it.
Great test, I was impressed by the penetration of all of those 22LR loads. I am considering getting a 22 for a loved one due to low recoil. That winchester mushroomed perfectly! I enjoyed this video looking forward to the next one.
I recently purchased a .22LR Taurus Revolver to use wile teaching my 51 year old daughter and my two grandsons who are in their teens now how to safely handle handguns. I needed it as both my other handguns are chambered in .45 ACP and first I can't afford the ammo now days and second, that is a powerful round for beginners, best to learn the basics before you go for the more powerful calibers.
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I absolutely love it. I shoot the golden bullets and cheap stuff in it all the time and it runs it all fantastic. The only trouble I have with it is when I run the Norma rounds through it. It don't seem to like them at all. Thanks for watching 🙂
Enjoyed the video. That was a lot of time and effort in the heat. I always have practiced with the 22lr. Finish practice with 9mm. The skills carry over. Haven't visited your channel for some time. Think I subbed maybe a yr ago or earlier. Well done. Thanks.
Great video! Love cci mini mags, they run great in all my 22s. You might try out the federal punch too. Keep up the good work, repping all us Kentucky patriots!
Thank you so much. I really appreciate you watching. That is one type of ammo that I don't have. If I see some out I will try and pick up a box or two. Who knows might do a little filming and testing with them 🙂
Very good test . Thanks. I would like to see a comparison between the CCI Stinger and the CCI Veloster. One has a light hollow point and the other has a heavy hollow point.
When was the last time that you heard a bad guy say "You're pointing a 22lr at me?" I think the fact that someone holding is holding a gun in their hand will usually defuse a situation. If you're pointing a gun at someone no one will ask you "what caliber is that?"
Hey Patriot; I understand I'm catching up on older videos, but may I suggest that you mention the barrel length of the pistol you are using to fire the rounds used. It helps making the calculation on velocity, without a chronograph. Keep up the great work. God bless
I'm just now discovering your channel, so a LITTLE late on this one! 😂 Watching this makes me feel a whole lot better about my choice to carry a .22 lr! I'm new to CCW. As a female and also being a little older and having severe carpal tunnel, I have a harder time with a 9 mm and even a .380. My grip strength is not what it used to be. Now if I can just figure out my holster situation! Ugh... that's the hardest part! 😢 Anyway, thanks for the video and info!
I really appreciate you watching. Holster selection is critical but can also be very difficult. I tell you what I did. I went to the NRA convention and tried on several different holsters until I found one that I liked really well. I have been using it as my edc holster for the last several years. It is so hard to buy a holster you like without getting to try it on and see how it feels. I wish you the best of luck in finding the right one. If i can ever been of any help at all. Feel free to give me a shout. I wish you and yours the very best :-)
A couple observations: 22 pistols tend to be fussy about the ammo that will reliably feed, fire and eject. It does not matter how well it did in a test like this if it is unreliable in your pistol. I would suggest shooting a full box through your pistol before deciding to rely upon that ammo. Second, the velocities on the label are in a rifle. The fastest ammo I found was Browning BPR. It was about 200 fps faster than the 40 gr mini-mag, although both showed the same speed on the label. The BPR was optimized for a rifle because when I tested the ammo in a pistol, the BPR was 150fps slower than the other brands.
My grandfather was a revolver man through and through. He carried one and used one for home defense until the day he died. God bless you my friend. I wish you the very best :-)
Im in the same boat with ya. I understand that both semi auto loaders and revolvers can have issues, for some reason though, I'd still rather take my chances of not having enough rounds,that will go boom, then to have plenty of rounds worth booming but wont because of a jam, limp wrist, mag fail, mag fall out etc. and even if the mag gets lost only few auto's will let you shoot singles with no mag. That mag safety is just stupid if ya ask me.
Tested with 2" barrel at 1070 fps, 29 grain bullet! Which gives it a total energy of 73 ft\lbs, even at 1300 fps its only like 108 ft\lbs, that was out of a 6" barrel, which is not very good. And who carries a 6" barrel 22? If i was gonna carry something that size i would just grab my 1911 gov. I've seen the tests & I have been carrying Punch also but reconsidering being there is a lot more powerful rounds for a 22 easily available. It has fair penetration but doesn't expand either. 73 is almost laughable when you consider its literally the weakest 22 round by far; even from pistols. Too each his own though, just stating some facts. I have also found it more reliable than some other types of ammo & that definitely counts for something.
Thanks for the video and I am pretty sure that Paul H. got expansion out of the CCI as well so that’s enough confirmation for me. I carry the 22 Compact and Mini Mags.
Good video. It looks like it took a lot of work on your part to run this test. Suggestion - you may want to use a magic marker to keep track of your shots. I’m glad to see the CCI mini mag hollow point worked out. It’s what I use in my EDC. I switched from a 9 mm compact with a 3 inch barrel to a a 22 lr for EDC. The recoil on the 9 mm was too “snappy”, the slide was miserable to rack, and ammo too expensive. Not a fun gun to shoot. Your video reinforced my decision to switch as I train more with the 22.
I believe as you do! Shot placement can only be achieved if you are in control of the weapon, not the other way around. I carry a 380 and for home defense it's 380 and 22 magnum and 22lr .
i shot 380 version of the P365, recoil was better than 9mm. but ammo is more expensive. and i don't think the recoil spring felt much different than the 9mm version. an option to think about for people who want the concealment and capacity of these 9mm micro-compacts but don't like the recoil. i also tried the recent LCP Max, a little more comfortable than the LCP II 380 with the slightly larger grip. but still fairly jumpy and my palm aches after a trip to the range, with the unchanged weight of the gun.
I have always had respect for all Caliber size bullets and I never ever thought that the .22LR could not be used in self defense of ones life! I do understand why most Gun People do not recommend using this round for self defense but having said this, I also understand that a well placed or a volly of well placed shots can kill anyone! We all have personal Ideas and reasons why we do things based on many variables when it comes to guns and I feel very comfortable and safe when I carry my .22LR Hand Gun with a 16 round magazine! So Be It!
Thank you for the hard work on this video, and for making the info clear and usable. I carry a 22 because of a neurological difficulty, but I'm accurate with it. I use the same pistol you used here, and I'll be trying the CCI definitely. I used the CCI in a Ruger Mark IV, but that is a long and heavy gun to carry. In the M&P 22 Compact, Winchester 36 HP had quite a few jams. I wonder how the Velocitor work vs the MiniMags? Thanks again.
Many of the bulk type boxing of 22LRs like the Remington 36 Grain Hollow Point Golden Bullets or the Browning 36 Grain Hollow Points are less reliable but so far out of about 1000 rounds using both one misfire ( didn't look to see which one it was though ) in my semi auto pistols. CCI packaging separating the rounds in their boxes tells you they will be more reliable but more expensive ! If my life is in danger I'm going with CCI in a revolver for my CCW. Just my thoughts on the ammo.
I've got the Walther P22. Norma works great in it for target practice. For self defense I'd use CCI Stingers. 22plinkster did a test with CCI Stingers out of a rifle on a titanium golf driver and it went straight through it.
1. I have actually got to meet the Plinkster on more than one occasion. He is a wonderful fella. I have been a long time subscriber. 2. I would have lovesd to had some "Stangers" speaking of the Plinkster lol. I have not seen any on the shelves in 2-3 years. They are a great choice for a .22. If I can ever find them I would love to do a video with the federal punch and Stinger comparison. Thanks for watching 🙂
Thanks. Seems from everything Ive read and watched the best 22lr rounds for EDC are the two I use. Federal Punch and Winchester Silvertip. Punch has great penetration past 12 inches and the Silvertip is a segmenting round that has 3 projectiles that spit off from the bullet when it enters. Its a nasty little round. I dont hesitate using either, especially since Ive got 17 of them in my P17.
Good video, I carry 22 Mag. everyday. My g/f 's brother teases me because he carry's a 10 mm. I tend to think shot placement is more important. I'm in Eastern Ky. and my gun range is in my back yard. Thanks for the video.
Howdy neighbor! I wouldn't worry about it. All that matters is you protecting yourself and getting home safe. That is the reason we carry not to impress someone by what we carry. God bless and I really appreciate you watching :-)
I have had no issues with the .22LR which has improved over time ! I’ve carried one for 60 years now ! I also carry the .22 WMR chambering , fine ctg ! Good test !
🇺🇸 💜🙏🏼💜 ☕️☕️😊 Awesome content, I truly enjoy this channel. I appreciate your plain and simple tests and clear results. I agree with you, as a rule it is not often that I see bullet expansion from a pistol length barrel. Thank You my friend. Stay Safe, Stay vigilant, and stay the course. Bless you and your family. 🇺🇸 💜🙏🏼💜 ☕️☕️ 😎👍🏼
Thank you for this video. It seems like an honest opinion from a Kentuckian! We ride a motorcycle during good weather and we love Eastern Kentucky. Mainly from Maysville to Ashland. We;ve been to Pikeville Prestonburg, Greenbo Lake, Cumberland Gap, Cumberland Falls, South Shore to Ashland on Rt 23 where it follows the Ohio River. We don't know much about Western Kentucky, but we sure love the Eastern part.
That is awesome man. I live about 30-40 min from Greenbo. We go there in the summer to hike and let the kids swim in the pool. Next time you are up this way check out Carter Caves state park. It is awesome. Thanks for watching 🙂
@@TheKentuckyPatriot We ride to Carter Caves just about once a year. If you ever see two old grey haired people riding a Red Harley Davidson Trike it will be us. We had to go to a trike after my wife battled cancer eight times and the cancer in her brain caused her to have seizures. She had an operation to remove some cancer from her brain and now she doesn't have seizures but left side is sort of like a stroke victim. She walks out in the garage with her walker climbs on the trike and we go for a ride. She can no longer climb on a two wheeler. I have a few .22lr's, a marlin model 60, a S&W 22 compact and a heritage rough rider. I'm thinking about a Taurus 942M revolver maybe for Chirstmas this year. I am switching to revolvers due to the arthirtis and gout in my hands.(I'm old) It makes it too hard to load a magazine, but I can still load revolvors. Thank you for the video and the reply. Another thing we love about Kentucky are the people. So honest and so nice.
@@genegoodwin8925 It really is a friendly place. We speak and say Hello if we know the people we pass or not lol. We love Carter Caves and go often. Enjoy your rides and stay safe out there 🙂
Best thing about 22lr is that even the boutique ammo is cheap. You have to have access to some serious coin to practice with something like Underwood defensive ammo in 357sig, 10mm or even 9mm for that matter.
Thank you for taking single shots and then showing the results. Paul does a great job in his vids, though my only issue is when he takes many shots at the meat target and then looks at the results. Good vid bud.👍
My favorite self-defense 22 long rifle is the stinger and velocitor... Remington yellow jackets! . 22 long rifle is not my first choice but I definitely would use it for self-defense if that's what I had or as a backup pistol
I feel the same way. I wish I i had some stingers to use for this test but I couldn't find any on the shelf so I just went with what I had. Thanks for watching :-)
@@TheKentuckyPatriot my favorite are actually velocitors a little heavier... Then stingers also I love Remington yellow jackets.... I carry these back in the 1990s when I used to carry a 22 American arms (not north American arms) px.22 for self-defense...(originally made by Iver Johnson looks like a wather..ppk shrunk down) .. very accurate and reliable.. I used to stagger stingers and yellow jackets in the magazine...
Glock 44 with CCI Velocitor is my EDC combination. I don't like the recoil of my G43x and having to resight after every shot. I can put every round on point with my .22, which will give anyone in the way big problems.
More in summer, I carry a Ruger sr22 with 4.5" barrel. It loads reliably. Think that extra 1" of barrel helps with penetration; maybe expansion. Practice with Win 40grn hp, rated at 1280. Been paying abt $.12/ round. My carry rounds are CCI velocitor or Rem 40grn viper. Viper has a flat plate nose. Both, extremely reliable.
I really liked that you used a t shirt, everyone else uses denim! and not many people wear Jeans on their chest. Very nice video Sir. God Bless you and your family as well!
@@TheKentuckyPatriot Just having a little fun with Mr Lopez... 43, I got 5 on ya and feel pretty good (most days). Good content,gonna check out more of your work.
Excellent video. Lots of good info here. I’ve always thought the Harrell Meat Target makes for more real-world-type results. You did forget to use Paul’s High Tech Fleece Bullet Stop, though. ;)
I got some Federal Punch .22 for my S&W M&P 15/22. It cycles reliably and since I’ve got an 18” barrel, it’s probably coming out at around 1600 fps. For me, my .22 semi-auto is a back-up home defense, SHTF and hunting rifle when loaded with Federal Punch .22
When I was 10 years old we did not have a lot of money so we hunted for our meat, pigs, ground hogs, rabbit, squirrel, raccoons, possum, beaver and yes, deer. We ate good and I still use one at 70+ years old. The Ruger 10-22 is a great little rifle and in a SHTF scenario there will be thousands of these around including parts. And, you can easily carry 500 rounds of ammo!
I was considering a new 22 pistol. This does help me consider the efficacy of 22lr versus 9mm or 380, which I already have. The good thing, either way, I live in a very low-crime area.
That Norma Tac 22 has a really thin case. It works best in bolt action target rifles and revolvers I have had them stick in the chamber of several semi autos. I think the thin case expands and sticks in the chamber.
For some reason they do fine in my pistol and in a single shot but I have a mag fed .22 and it don't like the norma rounds at all. It is funny some ammo works better in some guns than it does others. Thanks for watching :-)
I have that 22 compact. I switch from a glock 48 to the compact. Its very comfortable EDC. I have a light and the mag spring upgrades. So 27 rounds of stingers. It shoots fireballs
The .22lr is fine to carry. If you feel you can handle a slightly higher caliber, you could get a convertible bore revolver that allows you to fire .22 mag. The ammo is a little more expensive, but the recoil isn’t much greater, and it will penetrate a little deeper. If you’re practicing or plinking, .22lr is fine. If you’re carrying for self defense, the .22 mag is a little more effective, but .22lr will do the job. Also, if you are a new shooter, the revolver eliminates the worry of your gun jamming when you need it. If you get a misfire, you can move right on to the next chamber without having to stop to clear a jam, and that can be critical in a hot situation. I’d advise a revolver for anyone just starting out, or anyone who has trouble racking a slide because of arthritis or health problems. If you do choose a semi-auto, don’t get a discount brand. The price may be attractive on some of the cheaper ones, but a lot of the cheap ones can be prone to jamming. If the only one you can afford is a cheap one, at least make sure your ammo is top quality, CCI is usually a decent brand. Some of the lower cost ammunition can have more blowback, foul up your gun quicker, or misfire, especially in semi-autos. Practice is key to discovering which ammo is best for your gun.
I cary a 22lr daily. Whenever someone tries to give me crap about my "little, ineffective BB gun" i ask them to let me empty my 10 rounds of pathetic ammo into their chest. So far, no takers. Seems their words and actions don't actually match up.
Oh, that .22LR is a favourite of the Mossad . It's probably not as appreciated in the US because y'all love big calibres and have the the opportunity to indulge yourselves. It's plenty potent enough at close ranges. The argument that's extended is, expansion isn't really a factor when one's putting three four five rounds into a target at eight feet or less . But expansion sure doesn't hurt. And good shooting. Dogs like you. That's always a good sign. How's the little one doing? Haven't seen her in a while. Well, have a great weekend ahead. Cheers!
If someone isn’t comfortable with anything bigger then the 22lr, then I say carry it. Any caliber is better then not having one at all. Not sure why people with bigger calibers cut down on those who carry the 22lr, need to lift other shooters up, bringing down other shooters just leaves more room for anti groups to bring us all down. Carry what you are comfortable with, good shooting and gods speed to KP family and fans. 🎥💪🏽💯👍🙏🏻
I agree 1000% I added an extra 0 for emphasis lol. Thanks for watching my friend :-)
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I have a glock 19 but my walther p22 is an awesome little gun.... accurate and reliable, with cci mini mags never have an issue
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Than, not then.
I built/assembled 3 pistol caliber carbine type firearms for my wife for home defense. She is petite, not very tough, kind of mouse like. But at the range, firing .22 caliber guns didn't scare her as much. For home defense, it gave her short length firearms that she can hold with 2 hands, lightweight, virtually no recoil, and 25 round magazines. Consider this approach for your wife or kids. The sound is manageable, and low recoil means they stay on target easier and faster. And with 25 rounds, she is trained to fire several rounds to stop the threat. And if there are multiple intruders, she will have enough rounds to serve them all up a plate of justice. By now the gun community hopefully has shushed the macho exaggerating fools who say the .22 doesn't kill, or bounces around, or doesn't go through clothes. None of these people would volunteer to test those theories. Fact is, especially in a PCC, high velocity .22lr is going to penetrate, expand, and most likely stop someone immediately. Just the sound of being fired on makes 99% of intruders retreat. And if my wife has fire 10 rounds of .22, I have no doubt that will stop them. If not, well then a .38 or a 9mm wasn't going to stop them either. Its an affordable round, cheaper to practice with, and practice is one huge step towards better defense.
Whatever works man. I don't care what caliber you use as long as it keeps your family safe its all that matters. We are hillbillies lol. My wife shoots 45-70, 454 Casull, a 50AE, shotguns with 3" magnums. My son shoots his own deer with a .243. He hunts turkey and small game with a 20ga and I have him on video on this channel doing mag dumps with an AR when he was six. I would just say train with it, be able to clear a malfunction , and don't worry about what the gun community says. Thanks for watching. God bless you and yours :-)
@@TheKentuckyPatriot I am old and have lots of arthritis now and have been stepping down in calibers as I age. At this point my prefered gun is a S&W 380 EZ, but maybe in a few years I might end up depending on a 22. A 22 doesn't have the energy to create much of a shockwave cavity in tissue like a larger caliber so placement becomes more critical, and it may take more than a couple of rounds to deter a home invader. Truth is most folks will lose their motivation once they get hit, though some may just get more aggressive and since the 22 LR lacks the kind of stopping power of larger calibers it may require multiple rounds to stop them, so having a very reliable gun and reliable ammo can make all the difference.
@@wilycoyote9091 Very well stated. You have lot's of experience and from reading your comment I can tell you have a vast knowledge of firearms and ammo capabilities. A well placed .22 will do wonders. Thanks for watching. May God richly bless you and yours 🙂
@@TheKentuckyPatriot True, well placed 22 round can end the threat. When I was growing up my brother got shot in the gut with a single 22 and almost didn't make it. I don't underestimate its ability in hands of an experienced person.
In my youth, there was a story in the local newspaper about a family in our neighborhood, in which someone was killed by an accidental discharge from a .22lr rifle in the home. It turned out that I knew this family through my church. One day I was visiting their home, and I saw the hole in the bedroom door made by the .22 bullet in the middle of its trajectory from muzzle to victim. I asked, and my host confirmed that this was indeed the hole left by the bullet that day. Mind you, this was an older home with solid wood doors, not modern hollow ones. That a single .22 round could be fatal, even when not carefully aimed and after passing through a solid wood door, made quite an impression on me.
Then there's the case of the world record largest grizzly bear being killed by a single round from a .22lr. Now, that round was carefully, expertly placed... but, even so!
Armchair warriors talk a lot of smack about the .22lr , but the line to volunteer to stand in front of one is still very short.
HAHAHAHHAHAHA! So true :-)
I don't know why people use that same quote to defend the .22lr. No one will stand in front of it the same way they would not volunteer to stand in front of scissors, knives, fire crackers, bricks, stone, bats, etc. A better explanation of the effectiveness of .22lr would be the following scenario.
If you were captured by the enemy and they gave you the option to shoot you in the head with a .22lr or a 9mm from 7 yards away, and you had no other choice or say in the decision, which will you plead for them to use?
@@joer8386 excellent rebuttal and 100% true. I have made fun of the imbeciles who promote using .22LR as a defense weapon. Simply dumb AF! Yes, better than a sharp stick but not better than a .380, 9mm, .38, .357, .44, .40, .45, ….for gods sake even the ..22mag is significantly better. Why would anyone choose the .22LR. Why?????!
@@number4777. Another thing I hate defenders of the 22lr keep saying is that more people die from 22lr.... BUT, they keep out important information about that statistic.
1) They do not mention the length of time it took for that person to die. Yes, you can die from a 22lr, but it is usually after a long time before you bleed out. A criminal will have plenty of time to cause a lot of damage against you before he succumbs to that bullet.
2) They also fail to mention that because the 22LR is low-cost, everyone has it, especially in poorer neighborhoods where people can't afford more expensive ammo. There is a reason that more crime is committed with the 22LR: It is cheaper to use compared to other ammo.
I would not risk my life depending on that calibre to defend me. I will stick to stronger ammo. I even have a .380 as a backup gun using Lehigh defense ammo because it has controllable recoil but a lot more power than a 22lr. That ammo will go through a lot. Especially in the winter months.
Excellent statement not even for money in my experience lol!
Good video. Granted, a .380 or 9mm would be a better all-around EDC round, but the low recoil of a .22lr will allow you to stay "on target" without having to take that split second to re-acquire for follow-up shots. And besides, I've heard it said that "Any gun is better than no gun!".
Thank you so much for watching. I don't carry a .22 for edc. I have on a unique occasion if we are going frog gigging or hunting. I just carry it instead of two guns. I am not advocating a .22 because personally I think there are better options. Some people that do carry a .22 have asked about videos like this so I was trying to oblige. God bless you and yours :-)
The main factor with 22 is penetration. Forget expansion as a significant factor from a handgun. The 22 is a burst fire round, and can seriously injure or kill. Most of these ballistic models don’t factor in the bullet ricocheting off ribs and pelvic bones , creating more damage than expansion would.
I am a funeral director and embalmer by trade. Usually a .22 is hole in and hole out. It's not impossible to ricochet off a pelvic bone but the round won't dance around just takes a different course. Thanks for watching :-)
@@TheKentuckyPatriot Agenda is noted. Your attacker is likely to have a larger caliber weapon so why would you go with the smaller option? This is your life or your families lives you are talking about here and you want to use .22LR.. A round not even designed to be used in pistols.
You may come up against an armor clad attacker. You will need deadly surgical precision to hit the vulnerable areas. The 22 in the Walther TPH makes for a deadly accurate primary or backup weapon when conceal is a real necessity
Already saw my brother get shot in the leg with a22 took less than 10 minutes for him to go into shock Not like the movies where the guys are running around on steroids
Exactly! Meat, bone, and clothing are the best medium for EDC ammo tests, Great video my fellow Kentuckian!
Hey neighbor! Thanks, I really appreciate you watching :-)
Glad to hear people that know what they are talking about. I carry whatever suits me that day from .22Lr-.357 and when I carry .22Lr I feel just as safe as I do when I carry .380/ 9mm/ 40 cal. / .357 whatever.
I appreciate you watching and for your kindness. Lord willing I am gonna to try and do a video with a 22lr out of a rifle here soon🙂
Beats nothing at all!
Great test! My Grandma is 98 yrs. old; she shoots a S&W kit gun .22lr, about 10 years ago, she shot an intruder in the ass 5 times, I believe he is still running!
HAHAHAHAHA!! That is awesome!!! Go Granny!! Thanks for watching 🙂
Nice video. Thank you. The .22lr is very under rated, even in a short barrel. Back in the 80's I dispatched a feral dog with a double tap with a .22 Beretta Bob Cat. I believe it was using cheap hollow points. One thing I've found after 50+ years of shooting .22's is that hollow point expansion is somewhat "ify" with most brands, regardless of barrel lenght. I do carry a .22 lr pocket pistol or a pair of .22mag minis for edc often. They have bailed me out of a few bad situations over the years..
That is awesome. Thanks for sharing your experiences. I really appreciate you watching :-)
I also always carry a NA 22mag in my pocket. And as you said it has gotten me out of a bad situation more than once. Really liked the video, thanks.
@@gelnat7100 Thanks, I really appreciate you watching 🙂
I agree, using meat and clothing is way better than ballistic gel. Gives a more detailed result for hunting or self defense. Good video.
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Thank you for your hard work and great demo!👏
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I like this video. Much like Paul Harrell I love how you are actually shooting targets and examining results rather than just giving opinions.
Thanks you so much. I really appreciate you watching 🙂
@@TheKentuckyPatriot I know videos can be a lot of work. I have been working to get my channel off the ground.
Outstanding video, very informative. I've been into .22LR for self defense for some time now, especially for women. They will do the job. A hit with a .22LR is better than a miss with a .44 Magnum. Thanks for the video.
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I agree 💯. Many years ago, Mom stopped a guy trying to break into our house. She used a Marlin model 39- 22 caliber. I was 7 at the time. Dad had just bought the rifle from one of his brothers. Paid $20 for it. He gave it to me as my 1st gun. Mom liked shooting it too. Anyway, Dad was working late one night. A guy tried to break in through a window in my bedroom. Mom heard the noise and came running with a hammer. Mom swung the hammer at his arm that was coming through. She grabbed me up and grabbed the Marlin. He then started trying to get in through our locked back door. Mom hollered "I have a gun and I'll shoot !". He ignored her warning and continued to try to break in. Mom fired a shot dead center through the door. We don't know if he was hit or not, but he quickly left. We ran next door to a neighbor that had a phone and called the cops. Mom told them the story when they arrived and showed them the bullet hole in our door. The cop looked at it and said "Good job. If they come back, do it again!". I'm 58 now- and I still have that ole rifle.
@@shadowwolf2524 That's what it's all about, I bet money can't buy that rifle either.
@@gatorunleashed275 No, I don't believe the Marlin is for sale.
@@shadowwolf2524 WOW! love the cops response!!!
Oh yeah, nothing's wrong with 22LR, I love plinking with some 22, and I wouldn't hesitate to use it to defend my life if I had to. Sure, I have larger calibers, but I'm not one of those who say I'd never use such and such for defense:) HA! I like to say, I've never been in a defend my life situation, but I'd still bet when bullets start flying no one around is considering calibers:)
Good points brother! Thanks for watching :-)
They consider calibers before the SHTF. If 22s were the answer, the FBI, Military, Police, Gun Guys, ect... would all be armed with 22s. I see the need for them but realistically would you reach for a 22 or a 9mm if you were in a bad situation?
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Whatever, I don't buy it and never will. 45 AUTO, 9MM, .357 MAG, ALL bigger and better and all will do more damage than a .22LR I agree
However, IF .22LR is being shot at you, YOU, ME, and the world are going to be getting the hell out the way, and we better hope we don't get hit in the head with it:)
@@geico1975 Yes, I agree. If someone is shooting a slingshot, I'm getting out of the way. 22 will give you a dirt nap but. I'm just against people implying it's a good self defense round. In "my" experience, I get about a 1% or more failure rate . I also believe it has a greater chance to be deflected. If it's all you have then it's better than a stick. Chances are that just showing a gun will resolve most problems. Shooting someone with any gun will resolve most of the other ones. In the rare instances that those don't work, rimfire should be the last option.
@@FoulPet Yeah, I would agree with your last few sentences:) HA!
My main point in all of this, is if someone felt comfortable and was proficient with .22 and wanted to conceal carry with it, I wouldn't discourage them because of it, I guess.
Great results and video. Always enjoyable, brother. Blessings!
Thank you my friend. I really appreciate your watching and your kindness :-)
Hey brother I just want to say thank you for this very informative, honest, entertaining video, I subscribed and liked and shared which is not something I ever do. Even though I've never met you I can tell you are a man with a good heart. Humble, sincere, and just a all around good ol boy! God bless you as well! Salute to you brother from Gun barrel city, Texas
Ohh man, I really appreciate that. Thank you so much for watching, subscribing, and such kind words. God bless you and yours :-)
People hate on me all the time for using my Taurus TX22 Compact as an EDC. What they usually fail to consider is that I use CCI Stingers which are 32 grain and rated for 1640fps. I’ve shot thousands of these rounds from my TX22 Compact without a single failure.
No hate here brother. All that matters is that you return safely home. I don't care what people choose as there edc. I just like to do demonstrations and show the pros and cons of each weapon and round. Thanks for watching 🙂
I was actually shocked at the GREAT performance of the TX 22. It eats anything, including some 50-year-old ammo. Caused me to also buy a TX 22 Compact. It is just like the full size.
I also have a G 44 and a Sig P322. Both are ammo picky, but the Sig is a real ammo snob. It only works well with CCI, but I haven't tried all the brands in it.
@@Mrelindio42 Taurus has really stepped up their game in the past few years. Thanks for watching 🙂
I just had implants in my hands both in left and right. Im really really recoil sensitive now. I’m switching to my Taurus 22 compact with federal punch and stingers. With a Holosun 507k. Light no recoil and 10000% reliable
1640 fps out of 16" barrel not 4"
Bravo! on your testing, it's important to have you put out vids like this, Great Job
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Thank you for sharing your finding. Great content!
Thanks for watching!
Enjoy watching and learning from your videos. Many thanks from Perryville Kentucky. 😊
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Thank you for sharing. The description you gave of a projectile deflecting inside the body matches an explanation we were given in Vietnam when the M16 was introduced in the mid-1960s.
I appreciate you watching my friend. I wish you and yours the very best. God bless 🙂
Dogs are always a great barometer of a man's character. You're a good man. Thanks, for a practical, informative video. Kudos.
Love my dogs! Thanks, I really appreciate you watching 🙂
Great video, love your Shepherd, thank you for posting.
Thanks man, I appreciate you watching! He is my best buddy 🙂
I keep a taurus tx22 in my truck at all times, it's accurate as hell, never jams and holds 17 rounds.
I also use a 22 rifle to kill critters that attack the chickens, possums, coyote, fox. And yes it will kill a coyote hit in the correct spot. It's a nasty little round coming out of a rifle especially
I have never been coyote hunting but hopefully after the holidays that is about to change. I appreciate you watching and I wish you and yours the very best :-)
You used the best medium for these type of tests. Good work! I carry the same pistol you were using as an EDC, use only CCI Velocities, and practice a great deal.
Awesome! Practice is important. I appreciate you watching and I wish you and yours the very best :-)
Agreed re cci. I think the 40 grain mini mag Target actually is very effective to punch through lots of surprising things for edc… I did a video on it.
Own a .40 and a .22lr semi auto .I am not recoil shy , but the precision of the .22lr fascinates me.I choose the .22lr for edc.
I carry a .40 most of the time but I do change it up every once in a while. Thanks for watching :-)
Great to enjoy another video brother. I've missed you for a while. As always great video!
Thanks for watching. I appreciate all your help and support. God bless you and yours my friend :-)
Great test, I was impressed by the penetration of all of those 22LR loads. I am considering getting a 22 for a loved one due to low recoil. That winchester mushroomed perfectly! I enjoyed this video looking forward to the next one.
Thanks for watching. I wish you the very best and I appreciate all you do on your channel :-)
I recently purchased a .22LR Taurus Revolver to use wile teaching my 51 year old daughter and my two grandsons who are in their teens now how to safely handle handguns. I needed it as both my other handguns are chambered in .45 ACP and first I can't afford the ammo now days and second, that is a powerful round for beginners, best to learn the basics before you go for the more powerful calibers.
You can always cut a cross in your hollow point. At short range it won’t affect accuracy and it will cause the bullet to expand at a lower velocity.
I like a nice mushroom effect from a 45!
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Enjoyed the video! Good information!
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Great test! Thank you. Very well done. That Smith 22 Compact has always been 100% reliable for me....But I only use CCI ammo for all of my 22's.
I absolutely love it. I shoot the golden bullets and cheap stuff in it all the time and it runs it all fantastic. The only trouble I have with it is when I run the Norma rounds through it. It don't seem to like them at all. Thanks for watching 🙂
Great content. This was very interesting. Enjoyed and learned something. Thanks
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Enjoyed the video. That was a lot of time and effort in the heat. I always have practiced with the 22lr. Finish practice with 9mm. The skills carry over. Haven't visited your channel for some time. Think I subbed maybe a yr ago or earlier. Well done. Thanks.
Thank you so much for watching and subscribing. I wish you and yours the very best :-)
That was a fascinating test KP! Impressive results for a rimfire pistol! Wow! Many thanks from Canada.
I thought they performed really well too. Thank you so much for watching. God bless you and yours 🙂
Great video! Love cci mini mags, they run great in all my 22s. You might try out the federal punch too. Keep up the good work, repping all us Kentucky patriots!
Thank you so much. I really appreciate you watching. That is one type of ammo that I don't have. If I see some out I will try and pick up a box or two. Who knows might do a little filming and testing with them 🙂
Your honesty is very much approached.
I try my best to be. Bless you my friend and thanks for watching 🙂
Honest people are natuarally more approachable
Good Job! Love the info the .22 loads
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The 22LR is a great all purpose round in my opinion.... canon's are fine also but a well aimed 22 is all you need
Great round to have around for small game or a SHTF type scenario as well. Thanks for watching :-)
@@TheKentuckyPatriot lol, I'd rather carry 1000 rds of 22LR than 1000 rds of 223
@@michaelreed9805 Could you imagine carrying 1,000 shotgun shells lol. Be like a boat anchor lol
The golden bullet plating process actually makes the bullet harder so it doesn't expand as well, but it does get relatively good penetration
My little boy uses them to hunt bullfrogs. The back legs are good to eat. Thanks for watching :-)
Great video! God bless ya brother! 🙏 Thank you!
Thank you my friend. I sure appreciate you watching :-)
I gave a like as soon as I saw the gorgeous German Shepard at the commencement of your presentation ❤️🐶❤️
Thanks, I appreciate you watching. He is my best buddy :-)
Very good test . Thanks. I would like to see a comparison between the CCI Stinger and the CCI Veloster. One has a light hollow point and the other has a heavy hollow point.
If I can get my hands on some I will be glad to! Thanks for watching :-)
When was the last time that you heard a bad guy say "You're pointing a 22lr at me?" I think the fact that someone holding is holding a gun in their hand will usually defuse a situation. If you're pointing a gun at someone no one will ask you "what caliber is that?"
I sure wouldn't want someone pointing one at me that is for sure! Thanks for watching 🙂
Enjoyed your video, thanks for sharing your work.
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@@TheKentuckyPatriot I had to subscribe. 🙏👍
@@garydrichard5559 Very much appreciated my friend 🙂
Love to see how much that beautiful dog loves you bro. It’s great!
He was my best friend. I am a huge dog lover. Thanks for watching :-)
Hey Patriot; I understand I'm catching up on older videos, but may I suggest that you mention the barrel length of the pistol you are using to fire the rounds used. It helps making the calculation on velocity, without a chronograph. Keep up the great work. God bless
UGH, I am sorry. I always try to but I am so forgetful it ain't funny lol. I appreciate you watching my friend :-)
I'm just now discovering your channel, so a LITTLE late on this one! 😂 Watching this makes me feel a whole lot better about my choice to carry a .22 lr! I'm new to CCW. As a female and also being a little older and having severe carpal tunnel, I have a harder time with a 9 mm and even a .380. My grip strength is not what it used to be. Now if I can just figure out my holster situation! Ugh... that's the hardest part! 😢
Anyway, thanks for the video and info!
I really appreciate you watching. Holster selection is critical but can also be very difficult. I tell you what I did. I went to the NRA convention and tried on several different holsters until I found one that I liked really well. I have been using it as my edc holster for the last several years. It is so hard to buy a holster you like without getting to try it on and see how it feels. I wish you the best of luck in finding the right one. If i can ever been of any help at all. Feel free to give me a shout. I wish you and yours the very best :-)
Great video!
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Great Video !
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Such a very informative video. People should never discount a 22.LR round.
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A couple observations: 22 pistols tend to be fussy about the ammo that will reliably feed, fire and eject. It does not matter how well it did in a test like this if it is unreliable in your pistol. I would suggest shooting a full box through your pistol before deciding to rely upon that ammo. Second, the velocities on the label are in a rifle. The fastest ammo I found was Browning BPR. It was about 200 fps faster than the 40 gr mini-mag, although both showed the same speed on the label. The BPR was optimized for a rifle because when I tested the ammo in a pistol, the BPR was 150fps slower than the other brands.
Thanks for watching :-)
thank you and gr8 info ...love your dog
Thank you so much. He was my best buddy. We lost him back in the spring. I miss him so much. Thanks for watching :-)
Tx for the tip how to test ammo!
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That is why I like the reliable revolver, especially with a rimfire round.
me too
My grandfather was a revolver man through and through. He carried one and used one for home defense until the day he died. God bless you my friend. I wish you the very best :-)
@@TheKentuckyPatriot This can be missread badly.
@@mrd7067 HAHAHAHA!! Gotcha, gonna make the change now lol
Im in the same boat with ya. I understand that both semi auto loaders and revolvers can have issues, for some reason though, I'd still rather take my chances of not having enough rounds,that will go boom, then to have plenty of rounds worth booming but wont because of a jam, limp wrist, mag fail, mag fall out etc. and even if the mag gets lost only few auto's will let you shoot singles with no mag. That mag safety is just stupid if ya ask me.
I highly recommend the Federal Punch in 22LR. Tested with a 2 inch barrel showing over 1100 FPS!! Designed for EDC in 22LR!
Thant's awesome man. I appreciate you watching 🙂
Ralph, i agree, the Federal Punch is awesome!! i call it the Lone Ranger bullet, cause it's silver in color.
Tested with 2" barrel at 1070 fps, 29 grain bullet! Which gives it a total energy of 73 ft\lbs, even at 1300 fps its only like 108 ft\lbs, that was out of a 6" barrel, which is not very good. And who carries a 6" barrel 22? If i was gonna carry something that size i would just grab my 1911 gov. I've seen the tests & I have been carrying Punch also but reconsidering being there is a lot more powerful rounds for a 22 easily available. It has fair penetration but doesn't expand either. 73 is almost laughable when you consider its literally the weakest 22 round by far; even from pistols. Too each his own though, just stating some facts. I have also found it more reliable than some other types of ammo & that definitely counts for something.
That's pretty impressive. Would be even better in a PCC or rifle
Thanks for the video and I am pretty sure that Paul H. got expansion out of the CCI as well so that’s enough confirmation for me. I carry the 22 Compact and Mini Mags.
Thanks, I really appreciate you watching. I was really please with the results of these rounds :-)
Thanks for the video, it worked for me.
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Good video. It looks like it took a lot of work on your part to run this test. Suggestion - you may want to use a magic marker to keep track of your shots. I’m glad to see the CCI mini mag hollow point worked out. It’s what I use in my EDC. I switched from a 9 mm compact with a 3 inch barrel to a a 22 lr for EDC. The recoil on the 9 mm was too “snappy”, the slide was miserable to rack, and ammo too expensive. Not a fun gun to shoot. Your video reinforced my decision to switch as I train more with the 22.
Great idea! I really appreciate the suggestion! Thanks for watching :-)
I believe as you do! Shot placement can only be achieved if you are in control of the weapon, not the other way around. I carry a 380 and for home defense it's 380 and 22 magnum and 22lr .
@@tobylopez445 Thank you for watching! Stay safe brother 🙂
i shot 380 version of the P365, recoil was better than 9mm. but ammo is more expensive. and i don't think the recoil spring felt much different than the 9mm version. an option to think about for people who want the concealment and capacity of these 9mm micro-compacts but don't like the recoil.
i also tried the recent LCP Max, a little more comfortable than the LCP II 380 with the slightly larger grip. but still fairly jumpy and my palm aches after a trip to the range, with the unchanged weight of the gun.
Federal Punch for 22LR is amazing defense ammo.
I have always had respect for all Caliber size bullets and I never ever thought that the .22LR could not be used in self defense of ones life! I do understand why most Gun People do not recommend using this round for self defense but having said this, I also understand that a well placed or a volly of well placed shots can kill anyone! We all have personal Ideas and reasons why we do things based on many variables when it comes to guns and I feel very comfortable and safe when I carry my .22LR Hand Gun with a 16 round magazine! So Be It!
I appreciate you watching. I wish you the very best in this New Year! Stay safe out there my friend :-)
Shot placement or not I'm aiming for the chest and if using .22lr I'm putting minimum 4 shots in you because of that little to no recoil
Great video, thank you brother!
Dan
-Northern California
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Good honest info. Thanks for your trouble.
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Thank you for the hard work on this video, and for making the info clear and usable. I carry a 22 because of a neurological difficulty, but I'm accurate with it. I use the same pistol you used here, and I'll be trying the CCI definitely. I used the CCI in a Ruger Mark IV, but that is a long and heavy gun to carry. In the M&P 22 Compact, Winchester 36 HP had quite a few jams.
I wonder how the Velocitor work vs the MiniMags? Thanks again.
I will have to test them one of these days. I would also like to test the Stingers and the Federal punch rounds as well. Thanks for watching 🙂
Many of the bulk type boxing of 22LRs like the Remington 36 Grain Hollow Point Golden Bullets or the Browning 36 Grain Hollow Points are less reliable but so far out of about 1000 rounds using both one misfire ( didn't look to see which one it was though ) in my semi auto pistols. CCI packaging separating the rounds in their boxes tells you they will be more reliable but more expensive ! If my life is in danger I'm going with CCI in a revolver for my CCW. Just my thoughts on the ammo.
@@ag4allgood CCI is a fantastic choice. Thanks for watching 🙂
I've got the Walther P22. Norma works great in it for target practice. For self defense I'd use CCI Stingers. 22plinkster did a test with CCI Stingers out of a rifle on a titanium golf driver and it went straight through it.
1. I have actually got to meet the Plinkster on more than one occasion. He is a wonderful fella. I have been a long time subscriber. 2. I would have lovesd to had some "Stangers" speaking of the Plinkster lol. I have not seen any on the shelves in 2-3 years. They are a great choice for a .22. If I can ever find them I would love to do a video with the federal punch and Stinger comparison. Thanks for watching 🙂
My Walther loves Stingers.
Good job Sir!
Thank you, I really appreciate you watching and your kind words 🙂
Thanks. Seems from everything Ive read and watched the best 22lr rounds for EDC are the two I use. Federal Punch and Winchester Silvertip. Punch has great penetration past 12 inches and the Silvertip is a segmenting round that has 3 projectiles that spit off from the bullet when it enters. Its a nasty little round. I dont hesitate using either, especially since Ive got 17 of them in my P17.
Thanks for watching. Stay safe out there 🙂
Good video, I carry 22 Mag. everyday. My g/f 's brother teases me because he carry's a 10 mm. I tend to think shot placement is more important. I'm in Eastern Ky. and my gun range is in my back yard. Thanks for the video.
Howdy neighbor! I wouldn't worry about it. All that matters is you protecting yourself and getting home safe. That is the reason we carry not to impress someone by what we carry. God bless and I really appreciate you watching :-)
I have had no issues with the .22LR which has improved over time !
I’ve carried one for 60 years now !
I also carry the .22 WMR chambering , fine ctg !
Good test !
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🇺🇸 💜🙏🏼💜 ☕️☕️😊 Awesome content, I truly enjoy this channel. I appreciate your plain and simple tests and clear results. I agree with you, as a rule it is not often that I see bullet expansion from a pistol length barrel. Thank You my friend. Stay Safe, Stay vigilant, and stay the course. Bless you and your family.
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I appreciate your kind words and encouragement. You have been such a blessing to me and my channel. God bless you my friend :-)
Awesome video!
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Smith & Wesson M43c 12.5 ounces loaded with 8 rounds. Super convenient and easy to carry.
Handy hole punchers can save your life.
Yes sir! Thanks for watching. Have a great 4th 🙂
As a fellow Kentuckian, I agree with everything you mentioned.
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What a beautiful shepherd.
Thanks, I love my buddy. I tell him all the time that he is my best friend! Thanks for watching :-)
Thank you for this video. It seems like an honest opinion from a Kentuckian! We ride a motorcycle during good weather and we love Eastern Kentucky. Mainly from Maysville to Ashland. We;ve been to Pikeville Prestonburg, Greenbo Lake, Cumberland Gap, Cumberland Falls, South Shore to Ashland on Rt 23 where it follows the Ohio River. We don't know much about Western Kentucky, but we sure love the Eastern part.
That is awesome man. I live about 30-40 min from Greenbo. We go there in the summer to hike and let the kids swim in the pool. Next time you are up this way check out Carter Caves state park. It is awesome. Thanks for watching 🙂
@@TheKentuckyPatriot We ride to Carter Caves just about once a year. If you ever see two old grey haired people riding a Red Harley Davidson Trike it will be us. We had to go to a trike after my wife battled cancer eight times and the cancer in her brain caused her to have seizures. She had an operation to remove some cancer from her brain and now she doesn't have seizures but left side is sort of like a stroke victim. She walks out in the garage with her walker climbs on the trike and we go for a ride. She can no longer climb on a two wheeler.
I have a few .22lr's, a marlin model 60, a S&W 22 compact and a heritage rough rider. I'm thinking about a Taurus 942M revolver maybe for Chirstmas this year. I am switching to revolvers due to the arthirtis and gout in my hands.(I'm old) It makes it too hard to load a magazine, but I can still load revolvors. Thank you for the video and the reply. Another thing we love about Kentucky are the people. So honest and so nice.
@@genegoodwin8925 It really is a friendly place. We speak and say Hello if we know the people we pass or not lol. We love Carter Caves and go often. Enjoy your rides and stay safe out there 🙂
A .22LR that you carry is better than the .357 Mag you leave at home. Just my opinion.
I agree 100%! Thanks for watching :-)
That’s awesome thank you for that it says a lot about 22LR NICE 👍 😊
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Very nice and well designed demonstration.
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Best thing about 22lr is that even the boutique ammo is cheap. You have to have access to some serious coin to practice with something like Underwood defensive ammo in 357sig, 10mm or even 9mm for that matter.
Agreed. Thanks for watching :-)
Thank you for taking single shots and then showing the results. Paul does a great job in his vids, though my only issue is when he takes many shots at the meat target and then looks at the results. Good vid bud.👍
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Interesting video nice best buddy too. I know some people DO use .22RF for defense so this may well be helpful
It certainly isn't the best choice but some folks use it because of arthritis, a handicap, or other health related issues. Thanks for watching :-)
Nice demonstration as well as clarification. Paul Harrell would be proud. Subbed.
I really appreciate that. Paul is the absolute best. Thanks for watching :-)
My favorite self-defense 22 long rifle is the stinger and velocitor... Remington yellow jackets! . 22 long rifle is not my first choice but I definitely would use it for self-defense if that's what I had or as a backup pistol
I feel the same way. I wish I i had some stingers to use for this test but I couldn't find any on the shelf so I just went with what I had. Thanks for watching :-)
@@TheKentuckyPatriot my favorite are actually velocitors a little heavier... Then stingers also I love Remington yellow jackets.... I carry these back in the 1990s when I used to carry a 22 American arms (not north American arms) px.22 for self-defense...(originally made by Iver Johnson looks like a wather..ppk shrunk down) .. very accurate and reliable.. I used to stagger stingers and yellow jackets in the magazine...
Glock 44 with CCI Velocitor is my EDC combination. I don't like the recoil of my G43x and having to resight after every shot. I can put every round on point with my .22, which will give anyone in the way big problems.
Yes sir, Stay safe out there. I really appreciate you watching :-)
CCI Velocitors are the best.
@@sixchuterhatesgoogle3824 17HMR is literally 17 grain. 40 grain can wreck some shit with powder behind it. Thanks for the comment.
More in summer, I carry a Ruger sr22 with 4.5" barrel. It loads reliably. Think that extra 1" of barrel helps with penetration; maybe expansion. Practice with Win 40grn hp, rated at 1280. Been paying abt $.12/ round. My carry rounds are CCI velocitor or Rem 40grn viper. Viper has a flat plate nose. Both, extremely reliable.
I really liked that you used a t shirt, everyone else uses denim! and not many people wear Jeans on their chest. Very nice video Sir. God Bless you and your family as well!
Thank you so much! I really appreciate you watching. God bless you and yours my friend 🙂
I'm guessing that you're younger than 40. Back in the 1980's Jean jackets were totally rad.
@@JP-eb3oz I am not sure if you meant him or me under 40? If me then i greatly appreciate it. I wish lol. I will be 43 in a little over a month 😲
@@TheKentuckyPatriot Just having a little fun with Mr Lopez...
43, I got 5 on ya and feel pretty good (most days).
Good content,gonna check out more of your work.
Awsome video. Solid information
Thanks for watching brother :-)
Excellent video. Lots of good info here.
I’ve always thought the Harrell Meat Target makes for more real-world-type results. You did forget to use Paul’s High Tech Fleece Bullet Stop, though. ;)
HAHAHAHA! He has a patent on that lol. He has one of the absolute best channels on UA-cam. Thanks for watching :-)
@@TheKentuckyPatriot Yea Kentucky , two cookie sheets one under the meat target followed by another can be a good catch for the 22s.
@@ag4allgood Thanks for the tip 🙂
I got some Federal Punch .22 for my S&W M&P 15/22. It cycles reliably and since I’ve got an 18” barrel, it’s probably coming out at around 1600 fps. For me, my .22 semi-auto is a back-up home defense, SHTF and hunting rifle when loaded with Federal Punch .22
I would really like to find some and try them out. Make for a good range video. Take care and thanks for watching :-)
When I was 10 years old we did not have a lot of money so we hunted for our meat, pigs, ground hogs, rabbit, squirrel, raccoons, possum, beaver and yes, deer. We ate good and I still use one at 70+ years old. The Ruger 10-22 is a great little rifle and in a SHTF scenario there will be thousands of these around including parts. And, you can easily carry 500 rounds of ammo!
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Beautiful dog!
Thanks, He is my best buddy. :-)
I was considering a new 22 pistol. This does help me consider the efficacy of 22lr versus 9mm or 380, which I already have. The good thing, either way, I live in a very low-crime area.
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That Norma Tac 22 has a really thin case. It works best in bolt action target rifles and revolvers
I have had them stick in the chamber of several semi autos.
I think the thin case expands and sticks in the chamber.
For some reason they do fine in my pistol and in a single shot but I have a mag fed .22 and it don't like the norma rounds at all. It is funny some ammo works better in some guns than it does others. Thanks for watching :-)
M E Norma has a wax coating. it goes bang, i have not had any problems with FTE but i don't care for the wax.
I have that 22 compact. I switch from a glock 48 to the compact. Its very comfortable EDC. I have a light and the mag spring upgrades. So 27 rounds of stingers. It shoots fireballs
Awesome! I wanted them to to use for this test but couldn't find any. Take care my friend :-)
Good video buddy. Good content. Keep up the good work. -Dave
Thank you my friend. I hope you are well and I wish you the very best :-)
Excellent video ! 5🌟
I think Paul Harrell would approve it ! 👍
I think a lot of Paul Harrell and I really enjoy his channel. God bless you and yours and I really appreciate you watching :-)
The .22lr is fine to carry. If you feel you can handle a slightly higher caliber, you could get a convertible bore revolver that allows you to fire .22 mag. The ammo is a little more expensive, but the recoil isn’t much greater, and it will penetrate a little deeper. If you’re practicing or plinking, .22lr is fine. If you’re carrying for self defense, the .22 mag is a little more effective, but .22lr will do the job.
Also, if you are a new shooter, the revolver eliminates the worry of your gun jamming when you need it. If you get a misfire, you can move right on to the next chamber without having to stop to clear a jam, and that can be critical in a hot situation. I’d advise a revolver for anyone just starting out, or anyone who has trouble racking a slide because of arthritis or health problems.
If you do choose a semi-auto, don’t get a discount brand. The price may be attractive on some of the cheaper ones, but a lot of the cheap ones can be prone to jamming. If the only one you can afford is a cheap one, at least make sure your ammo is top quality, CCI is usually a decent brand. Some of the lower cost ammunition can have more blowback, foul up your gun quicker, or misfire, especially in semi-autos. Practice is key to discovering which ammo is best for your gun.
Some fantastic points! Thanks for watching 🙂
Great video
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As with any firearm, shot placement is key, regardless of caliber.
Hitting your target sure helps. Thanks for watching 🙂
I cary a 22lr daily. Whenever someone tries to give me crap about my "little, ineffective BB gun" i ask them to let me empty my 10 rounds of pathetic ammo into their chest. So far, no takers. Seems their words and actions don't actually match up.
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I've been EDC with an NAA mini .22 LR for decades and I've never felt underarmed. No one ever knows i have it either.
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I NEVER seen ANYONE who ever volunteered to get shot with a 22LR ENOUGH said!!!
Thanks for watching brother!!
Even a 22. Short will heart like hell.
Yes sir!
Oh, that .22LR is a favourite of the Mossad . It's probably not as appreciated in the US because y'all love big calibres and have the the opportunity to indulge yourselves. It's plenty potent enough at close ranges. The argument that's extended is, expansion isn't really a factor when one's putting three four five rounds into a target at eight feet or less . But expansion sure doesn't hurt. And good shooting.
Dogs like you. That's always a good sign. How's the little one doing? Haven't seen her in a while. Well, have a great weekend ahead. Cheers!
She is going fine. She is laying here beside my recliner asleep lol. She is spoiled rotten. I appreciate you watching and I wish you the very best :-)