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Most of this is mainly because, as stated in the video, THERE ARE SO MANY DIFFERENT ITTERATIONS OF THE SAME CAR. This one vehicle has so many different engines and versions that you couldn't possibly fit it all into the same length time frame as a regular car.
I think the thing is with Range Rovers is that if you buy an older used one you really have to be an enthusiast. These are needy cars. So unless you enjoy looking after cars and take pride in maintaining them and keeping up their appearance I wouldn’t bother. This is a purchase you make with your heart not your head. My L322 is now 17 years old and I still clay bar the thing !
@@davids8324 it's just an S... Doesn't mean anything other than to seperate it from the tdv, which is the older, indentical engine producing less power.
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Having owned five different JLR vehicles over the past 10 years I can only speak of my experience. Always bought certified used from the dealer and have not had a single unexpected problem from any of them. Brakes, tires, and oil changes. Toss in a brake fluid flush every now and then and a battery after three years. I drive 12k-15k miles per year. I see many comments about Toyota reliability yet in the news right now we have a major engine recall and now possibly faulty transmissions on 2024 Tacoma trucks. My point is that EVERY manufacturer goes through problems but the proof is whether they fix it and make it better. I am about to buy a 2019 Range Rover from a close friend that bought it new. It is his second one and again, no major problems AND he drives his off-road in the Southwest going hiking and back-country skiing. Sorry to say but I am a fan of JLR products as it has never let me down.
I’m about to buy my first as well. I’ve owned most of the “other brands” (BMW, Porsche, etc…), but I have a buddy with 2 RRs and he won’t stop talking about how they’re the most amazing cars he has (he has like 10 cars. Couple beemers, Audi, Porsche and 2 Rovers). I am only looking at certified pre owned , and still doing PPI. Can’t wait to get my first one.
@@mattrichard9006 I'm in the same boat. I've seen a Hybrid L405 with 65k on the clock for £19k. I'm awaiting my 2015 Jag XJ to sell first, before I go ahead with the purchase.
@@mattrichard9006 I forgot to mention I have owned four different MB products over the years and had problems with 3 of them. The last one was an E420 that had plastic cam oilers crack at approximately 80k miles. Poor design using plastic instead of aluminum, like the replacement part. Sold the car after that and never owned another MB product again.
When I bought a D4 Disco ("the reliable one") with the Ford V6 diesel described in this review, I thought "oh well at least the engine is a Ford". Boy, was I in for an expensive surprise.
I’ve had my D4 since 2013 it’s now on 265000km and no such catastrophic experience at all. Only replaced my air shocks for the first time this year 12years later.
I owned a 93 land rover discovery and had random electrical issues. Put the window washers on and the blinkers would flash. Hit the horn, the wipers would come on. The best one was putting the power window down shut the engine off. Take finger off the switch and the engine fired up again. The thing cost me thousands in repairs, and I ended up selling it as a farm only vehicle. Damn I loved it. Such a good car.
Wow, insane and hilarious that the window switch would short the ignition circuit. Other one sounds like a Clock spring assembly - Basically the part in your steering wheel that allows the wiring to function as you turn it. My old Holden Crewman used to randomly honk the horn for the same reason. I was in the workshop one day messing with a machine, about a week after buying the thing and the workshop supervisor comes rushing up with an angry look on his face, my car was parked in the car park with the horn just absolutely blaring out.
I own a 2015 V8 Supercharged 510 hp in USA. SWB with autobiography interior. Bought it certified pre-owned when 3 y/o. Phenomenal vehicle. I drive 9-10 k miles per year. 75 k currently. Also bought extended warranty to protect me if I encountered electrical issues (mechanic recommended). Only issue has been a front control arm. I would buy this all over again. Previous to this I had 2 Lexus LS 460’s. Other than the electronics of the Lexus, the luxury is comparable and doesn’t disappoint.
I think the key thing when buying one of these is to buy an extended manufacturer's warranty. That way you're protected from the potential for catastrophe. If you can't afford the extended warranty, you can't afford to own one. Additionally, I very much agree with Jim, do an engine oil and filter change every 6k miles and change the gearbox, transfer case, and differential oils every 25k miles. As far as the LS 460, it's also a very complicated and heavy car, and can cost quite a lot to maintain. In particular, the suspension costs a lot to fix when it fails. Sure, Lexus and Toyota have the best reputations, reliability-wise, but from the LS 460 on, Lexuses are complicated and can cost quite a lot more to maintain than most people appreciate when out of warranty. And not all Lexus/Toyota engines are bullet proof, either, far from it. Again, the key is the extended warranty program. Owning any 21st century luxury car out of warranty can be expensive.
My boss got his diesel 2018 Range Rover Vogue serviced at the stealership. They charged him $4800 . The car only has done 72,000 km. What a joke . This was a service nothing was wrong with the car.
They charge like $250 per hour for labor and upcharge the parts like crazy. You can buy everything for an oil change for $100. It's over $500 at the dealer
I think the reason the exorbitant high price is only due to the fact that most of the serviceable parts are hidden behind the engine and it's often so complicated trying to loose the entire thing just to access a single repair point. This is the only reason mist mechanics charge so much to service these things. They're unlike the toyota brands where almost every part is easily accessible to mechanics. I love them though and seriously considering buying one but still a little worried...lol
@@dermotwallace5533 well that’s just poor engineering. My boss has now sold the Range Rover and purchased a Mercedes AMG SUV . It goes in for a service next week, I’ll let you know how much it costs to service.
The garages get a very poor deal from the manufacturers on warranty work, so they need to make profit somehow. With Range Rovers I guess there is lots of warranty work!
I am just here to read the comments from owners claiming that their Range Rover has gone a million kilometers without so much as a burnt-out light bulb and the only maintenance or repairs needed have been an occasional oil change or windshield washer fluid top-up plus replacing the wiper blades and brakes!
My parents own a 2015 Discovery 4 with 3.0L V6 diesel engine, 115,000 km on it. Our experience has been great so far. It had only a few problems and things needing change (2nd battery, timing belt, spark plugs, gear selector control unit error (a few litres of transmission oil were added and no more problems). No other big or small problems. I drive it often and absolutely love it. I also like the peace of mind when it comes to overcoming any terrain - snow, mud, sand, and others. Though I wouldn't own it as servicing costs are crazy expensive.
My favourite part of these breakdown videos of hugely unreliable cars is going to the comments and still seeing people deny that the car is unreliable despite the indisputable evidence being laid out as clearly as possible in painstakingly specific detail by an expert independent mechanic who has spent his entire life working on and researching cars, not to mention the hours and hours and hours of research that went into this video 🗿it is comical
Lovely review! I'm currently writing a script for a L494 RRS in-depth review and there's so much to cover. You're doing a wonderful job of summarizing different aspects.
If you are handy with the spanners & have a lot of patience they are good value. 2015 SDV8 owner. Bought with FSH at 100k km & now knocking on 200k km with no major issues. Service every 10k is a great piece of advice. 👍
Jaguar Land Rover's perceived unreliability, Toyota Lexus's perceived reliability -- as an owner of both I can tell you neither is true anymore.. Just get a pre-purchase inspection, get a warranty, and don't worry about it.
I'd rather be in a lexus than the JLR, the lexus shares parts with the land cruiser and plenty of people have them meaning cheaper to service than the RR and less prone to failing.
clearly u don't own either from this statement, even an unreliable lexus is still far better than anything that comes out of landrover, i have no jokes seen people take their range rovers back to the dealership for servicing 2 weeks after buying it
Perceived? There were protests in CHINA, the land of Tian An Men Square, about the terrible quality of these vehicles. I have owned ten Lexus's and never, not a single thing has ever gone wrong with them. That CANNOT be said for a JLR product. Their reliability is woeful and well documented.
I agree with @papagen00. If you can get an extended factory warranty when buying ANY used large luxury car, you should most certainly get one, and that includes when buying a Lexus! However, it is true that LR products have many more warranty claims early in their lives than Lexuses. Maybe older Lexuses are still significantly less likely to have problems, but when they do, parts and labour are equally expensive. The big Lexuses cost a lot to fix suspension issues, especially from the LS 460 forward. And even Lexus and Toyota engines can have big problems. Most notably, the early DI 2.5 V6 is a dog! LRs aren't as unreliable as generally perceived. And Lexuses/Toyotas aren't as reliable as generally perceived. Those two statements are true facts. That doesn't mean LRs don't have plenty of problems and Lexuses/Toyotas don't have worthy reputations for reliability. What it means is you should get an extended warranty when buying both used to protect against the potential for big maintenance/repair bills. Moreover, there is no Lexus SUV that delivers what the big Range Rover delivers, in terms of comfort, luxury, capability, driveability, performance, feel good factor, prestige, or styling, let alone all in one package. Lastly, Lexuses aren't anywhere near as good as they once were. That's also a true fact.
I ‘ve got both. LX470 from new in 1999, now with 470,000 kms. L405 now with 100,000 kms. Lexus not without issues, one that nearly killed me. Hydraulic suspension replaced with springs and shocks. RR much nicer car- power, torque, massively more economical. We’ll see if its still this good at 500,000 kms.
Honestly, listing all that can possibly go wrong with any car. Range Rover was just a prop used. But very informative and creative way. These are now brilliant.
They're great cars if A: You buy them depreciated B: You have a good warranty C: You know how to work on them or D: You have the resources to fix them. I don't think they're bad cars. I know they're not. It is a Land Rover after all. Many people who have no business buying them tend to buy them used and then act surprised when they break. The information is out there.
Very interesting to read Aussie comments about these. They are (or were...) very common here in the UK as they're relatively cheap and a lot of car for the money. A family member has one and absolutely loves it. He loves wrenching things himself so he doesn't mind the odd issue. We have a lot of independent specialist garages here who can work on them too. The main issue is how many get stolen per year here. They're now virtually uninsurable and people are canning them.
I can't comment on how many are sold here in Australia, but you certainly see a lot of these on the road. But I am not aware of any specialist repairers for them, and most workshops here use subcontractors for their electrical issues, which adds a whole other layer of pricing and markups when you get those electrical problems. All cars here have immobilisers, so when they're stolen, it's usually after they've broken into a house or office to get the keys. Is that the same in the UK?
@@tsubadaikhan6332 Interesting. Oh man, they're ridiculously easy to steal. Keyless relay theft was the main way but a few more methods have crept in. Is relay theft not a thing with you guys?
@@SeaJayBelfast Sorry, haven't been here for a while. Relay enhancement car theft is really unusual in Australia. All States are linked with VIN numbers and such, and you can't drive to another country to sell a stolen car. It appears it's not worth crooks buying the relay enhancers here. There's been a little market in buying insurance write offs at auctions, and then trying to put those details on a stolen car, but even that market is tiny now the Police are over it. Police worked that one out after idiot bikies ended up in a brawl over a written off vehicle at an auction. There are some small advantages to having a small market and getting technology later than other countries. And there's a lot of rich people here. My city of 2 million people in Perth just got a McLaren dealership. Wasn't expecting that.
I'm a Brit and actually only live down the road from where these are made in Solihull. Honestly, as lovely as they are, i wouldn't touch one with a 10 foot pole, how a vehicle thats so expensive be so poorly engineered is beyond me 😂 #britishcarproblems
If they had just made these and the Discovery reliable they would have been the greatest vehicles the world had ever seen. They are sublime when working but they just will not be reliable. I loved my last Disco but will never buy another JLR product again. It's a travesty
@andrewpriest9047 Same here. I had a LR Discovery and would never buy one again. If I was given or won a brand new Range Rover I would sell it immediately.
I wouldn’t go near a JLR car, not even as a company car. I’d mostly be driving a replacement Peugeot while the JLR car is in the repair shop for months at a time.
My 2017 L405 4.4 SD V8 Autobiography is the best car I have ever owned. Never goes wrong and is a joy to drive and own. Apple Car Play and Android Auto is standard
The massage turning on after a while is not a gremlin, but a function. You can set how long after starting the car it automatically turns on. I've had some issues after it has done 170.000 kms, but it's honestly the best car in the world. Get the SDV8 or V8 supercharged. These are the safest engines.
Do you know by any chance where to find enough informations about this car? The only thing I can find by myself is that there's not much cars with more than 250k on the used cars market even though they say the engine is quite reliable? It's used by Mercedes too
There was a time when Rover and Honda were working quite closely, and there was nearly a merger there so it could have happened. Missed opportunity there.
I'm on my second L405, both 4.4D and actually both have been very reliable. Purchased both second hand so haven't taken the hit on depreciation in fact I'd say great value for money. 30 mpg all day long in real life driving.
Owner of an L405 SDV8 since new. My experience is the same. Only issue ive ever rattled my head with was a constant EGR fault appearing. Sorted it out after a good clean, egr temp sensor and a map sensor change.
There is a lot of hate towards Land Rover and mostly from people that have never driven or owned one. My 4.4tdv8 has been a game changer of a car. Feck the hate
@@eoghanfla6343 Seems to also be a lot of hate, and simultaneous love, from those who have had problem after expensive problem. Which is pretty much in line with what Jim said. Problems do not seem to always equate to hate with these. But read any YT comment section related to these and there very much are plenty of actual owners whose experiences turned them completely off them. But confirmation bias either way seems to be a feature of Range Rover YT comment sections.
@@DiscoFang you have some fair points there.. The other thing I see are there are two types of owners. The ones that buy from the dealer at high prices and get them maintained at the dealer and then there are the enthusiasts and home mechanics who buy them at better value and self maintain. I think the latter tend to be the happier customer as they have gotten a bargain in their eyes. A second hand L322 or L405 are going to have problems but most of them are known and can be fixed to a degree. The Range Rover is by far one of the nicest cars I’ve ever owned and I enjoy every mile but they should not be bought by everyone, If you want reliable and uncomfortable buy a Toyota. If you want style and fear of fuel pump failure buy a Pajero. There are plenty of options out there for people anyways…
At $100k second hand, they are still $100k too expensive. They make the interior so comfortable and classy so you have somewhere nice to sit while waiting for roadside assistance.
Every 50+ year old man like you has an ignorant comment like this about every car manufacturer besides Toyota. If you've given up on life, just say so.
Just under 100k for mine and worth it. Zero issues and it's freaking awesome. They must be hit and miss, but it seems when they miss they are pretty F'd
Yeah it's usually,I know a bloke that knows this guy that new somebody that had a land rover product that was always breaking down,usually a boring land cruiser owner!!
Did you even watch the video? There’s an 11 minute section where an independent expert mechanic breaks down specifically every single thing that is documented to consistently and commonly go wrong with these. I simply do not understand how people deny these are one of, if not the most, unreliable car brands that has ever existed particularly when you consider the money it costs to buy one. Fantastic driving experience: yes. Reliable: the biggest no that has ever been assigned to something. Why deny it?
@xXYellie12Xx He's not exactly independent and he's definitely not a Land Rover/ Range Rover expert. He sounded to me he was just parroting of shit from the google machine.
I owned an 2011 evoque. Thing was a nightmare every 2 months a new error would come up on the dash costing 100s to repair. Things got so bad that Every week I would need to replace a fuse for the electric seat. Finally It went into limp mode I spent £££ trying to figure out why, eventually I gave up up and sold it to a mechanic, the only person who wanted to come view it. But I will admit, it was a head turner and miss it. It was a bit like a really hot girlfriend, expensive, good to look at but broke my heart constantly.
Five years ago I bought a five year old L405. Needed a new brake light switch early on. Tyres only lasted five years. Terrible! And the 30+ mpg on diesel doesn't help either. Still have it, of course.
I do actually believe that there's a psyop about RR reliability just so select people buy them. I almost fell for it before I bought my L405 and let me tell you as a BMW/Merc owner for 20 year, this is the best car I've owned. Yes, it has issues, but so does all luxury cars, if not less. If properly maintained it will bring you joy that no other car will.
Do it! Go to a higher end used dealer with a good reputation. They get the good ones, 'Bob's backyard bargain cars' will have the basket cases. Mine is amazing. Zero issues and it's glorious to drive. 10/10 recommend.
Had my 2016 l405 diesel 3 years now love it no problems so far. I purposefully stay away from the stealership they will clean you out imo. I do basic work myself or use a highly rated indy shop. Still this is not your car if you are poor.
After watching this I'd definitely go the wild card you guys put up without a 2nd thought The fact it took so long to drop the back seats is ridiculous when others do it as soon as you need it too. I think it would of been easier for Hullsy to have just said their all shit the engines and left it at that as I have a feeling the poor bloke was starting to go stark raving mad with the issues lol 😂. Good job guys and look forward to Sunday's video as per usual 👍.
Jim, you had me lost when saying that the V6/V8 is basically the same engine, but the rear is blocked off..Are you implying that two cylinder bores are without pistons, con rods etc, or actually filled in?? Please explain.
Yes it’s literally a V8 short block! The 4th cylinder in each bank is filled in. You get all the weight of a V8 with all the power of a V6. A quick google and the first reddit result has pictures of this monstrosity
sweet friggin jesus, I just googled as you suggested and now I can't un-see what I've just seen...........................baby jesus wept @@AWMJoeyjoejoe
@@martyn_g Even BL didn't do it. Maybe they didn't think of it. Maybe BL engineers refused to do it. Of course there are plenty of examples going back more than 50 years of V6s being developed from V8s to save development costs. Actually using the exact same V8 block for the V6 is a new low point.
I don't agree with air suspension problems. LR does air suspension very well. Yes, You probably have to replace compressor after about 200k but that's not to expensive for what is provides. Maybe even more in RR because unlike in Discovery, in the RR the compressor is not below the car. Suspension airbags are very reliable in normal use. 15 year old airbags still working well and not leaking.
I'm not sure what Range Rover model it was, but in 2022 I was driving from Karratha to Perth and pulled into a caravan park in Geraldton. A late-model Range Rover was on the back of a truck and the truck was pulling a caravan. The Range Rover had broken when it was pulling the caravan in country WA, and it was on the back of a truck on its way to be repaired. Apparently Range Rover was covering all the bills - collection, repair etc - but it was woeful end to the family holiday. I was driving a 2021 Toyota Fortuner - ie, a pimped Hilux - and I stated the obvious to the Range Rover owner - 'There is a reason why people buy Toyotas'.
Recently on a holiday in India we were in traffic behind a tilt tray carrying a brand new Rangie (still covered in shipping stickers). No joke, as we sat there behind it the side mirrors would randomly fold in and out together and separately. Plus the tail lights were flashing random patterns through the leds. We had a good laugh at this car waving and winking at us! We did shed a tear for the sucker who would eventually end up with this patched up brand new lemon.....
Haha That last line is almost the exact thing I think whenever I see one here, feel sorry for the owner having fallen under the spell. "Oh you poor sap."
Essential summary imho: it is a spectacular vehicle if it works. Many people love it in spite of the remarkable issues. Many more simply do not understand why anyone would want to accept the trouble or risk.
I have had my 2013 Autobiography L405 for 7 years since it was 3 years old. I have reached 125000KM on my 3 litre Diesel, The only irritating fault is the top tail gate refuses to close on auto unless you you leave it a few minutes then the remote key will close it, but the top button only closes bottom tailgate. Mine is serviced on time by non franchise Range Rover garage at a reasonable cost. I love my car and will keep it at least another 3 years. Cambelt, Brakes, and transmission oils serviced at 100km.
On my 3rd trip in 2 days from Byron Bay to the Gold Coast Land Rover dealership. (in a tow truck) A 2017 Discovery a 2020 Discovery and a 2022 Defender. Whenever my office says I have a tow to Southport I bet my house that it is a Land Rover of some description. So I am in and out of a lot of modern Range Rovers and Land Rovers and my god they are so beautiful they are so gorgeous but so fragile. If you have deep pockets and a spare car then go for it.
Because the people with the net worth to afford these barges do not give a flying fuck about 1) depreciation; because they can afford to eat the cost. 2) reliability; because their vehicles would have the warranty that covers any mechanical or electrical failures that may arise during their ownership period. Sorry to say, but the Lexus just doesn’t compare when it comes to technological prowess and the premium amenities. Yes, the Lexus will run until the earth has dried and shriveled up, but again, the people that can afford Range Rovers prefer the amenities, road presence and status that is associated with these land-yachts.
I will concede and say the Range Rovers drive better and look better and are better when they work. HOWEVER THEY ARE GIANT BUCKETS OF SHIT AND YOU SHOULD NEVER BUY ONE.
Not only have I been driving mine trouble-free for 5 years, I have personally witnessed my vehicle perform complex cardio-thoracic surgery and win the Nobel prize for physics after it wrote a unified theory of quantum gravity.
Me, I’d buy a 25 year old Landcruiser V8 and put it on Classic Rego in SA, and spend all the money I’ve saved getting a lovely new leather interior trimmed up. On the Classic Rego I can drive it 90 days a year on the log book. So it would be available for use at least as many days per year as any Land Rover 😎 😁
Can we please have a survey of the number of armchair experts here who actually own an L405? If you owned one or own one or fix them, fair comment. Otherwise, you are talking out of your ass. I own a 2014 3L gas V6, purchased new in late 2013, in Ontario, Canada, where salt is used on the roads from November through March. I had very few mechanical issues in over 10 years of daily driving, and its aluminium body still looks great. Here, with a set of Michelin Cross-Climate 2 tires, my L405 is unstoppable in snow and ice, or off-pavement. I have never been to Australia but never heard of a snowstorm in Sydney. You have a great channel here with excellent, well-researched content. P.S. Lexus SUVs here are regarded as reliable dinosaurs and the automotive answer to insomnia.
I have nothing but praise for JLR products. I have had two discovery 2's that have done over 350.000kms each (a diesel and a V8 petrol). I bought a Ford Ranger Wildrack in mid 2020 new and it has spent more time in the workshop with errors and bugs, several transmissions, than it has on the road. Something goes wrong every month. Every time I tow the transmission overheats and loses most of the gears. So the only vehicle I can rely on is my old V8 23 year old Discovery... its a sad state of affairs. My brother has had 5 Range Rovers and apart from very small warranty issues, has nothing but praise for them. He usually buys them at about 100,000kms and keeps them until about 250+.He tows with them and finds them better tow vehicles than any Japanese equivalents and much more economical.
Seems to me that Jim Hull knows more than most manufacturer-trained techs about most makes and models. You can't sue because you don't like clearly articulated opinions, and you can't sue unless claimed facts are in fact wrong, and even then if claims were the result of research and reported objectively without malice, you probably won't win anything. Also seems to me that Adam Morris does meticulous research to inform his claims and opinions. Manufacturers normally punish journalists/reviewers/influencers by withdrawing advertising and/or not inviting them to manufacturer paid for product launches, thus depriving them of content, revenues, and free luxury trips. As ReDriven isn't reviewing new cars, they risk little or nothing. Also, under Australian law, I think you're covered for anything you say as long as it's clear it's an opinion or based on experience.
I was driving in a 1998 Land Rover. It was still an awesome SUV. I bought a 2016 Range a River Evoque. It was basic model. But I love my little SUV. Cost od repair ia a bit high. But once a part is replaced it will run like brand new. I love the older models like mine becuwe they were square / boxy.
Seen one with 30k km with 5 warning lights on and in need of an air suspension replacement. And no, it was not a garage queen, it was less than 1 year old
I told my wife she could buy any car she wanted. She bought a first generation Land Rover Freelander. Enough said? I drove it the six hundred k's back to where she bought it, the next day. I had to do it very slowly because within two minutes of being at 100kph on the highway the auto shifted down into SECOND and nearly killed me.
Gear selector goes out when you spill coffee, water oe something. That whole piece is like a mini computer. Mine went out and I had to get towed. I have spilled things on it.
My friend's family own a Morgue and they have multiple of these on their fleet. Unfortunately most of them were unreliable, they had mechanical issues and some electrical issue.
I had 2019 Range Rover HSE, is really a nightmare, so many tiny problem, 2 years later transmission need replace, 3 years engine is toasted... my suggestion don't even buy one, good looking and luxury SUV, but so many trouble, I replace with Lexus LX, never have any issues.
Actually these are all rumors, okay i get it good title but everyone knows they arent like they used to be. I own two range rovers, fully paid for by cash. These cars are unbeatable, luxury, speed, comfort, safety and tech. 2012 evoque compares to 2018 luxury cars. Great video.
mine had full rangrover service history and 3 months into buying it cam snapped and im now in the middle of a full rebuild costing me badly most garages wouldnt touch it
@@nigel.w its had engine full rebild now is hesatating on accelaration so garage now saying it need a gear box service lol i can not see a gearbox service helpiing the problem so 6k into it now gear box service ontop gear box was fine till they stripped car and rebuild engine my love for my rangrover has died and the garage is gonna get a letter from my solicitor there scammers lol
‘How do you justify the depreciation from new?” Easy- company car and can claim lease costs, running costs and depreciation which will most likely impact reportable company tax.
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the ridiculous depreciation is offset by people claiming that depreciation on the ATO
I love how "What goes wrong" is literally half the video bahahaha.
Hahaha… I’ve watched so many of there videos and this is by far the longest “what goes wrong with it” section
Most of this is mainly because, as stated in the video, THERE ARE SO MANY DIFFERENT ITTERATIONS OF THE SAME CAR. This one vehicle has so many different engines and versions that you couldn't possibly fit it all into the same length time frame as a regular car.
Deservedly 😅😅
You could counter that with I've never seen AK rabbit on so much about a car before.
I think the thing is with Range Rovers is that if you buy an older used one you really have to be an enthusiast. These are needy cars. So unless you enjoy looking after cars and take pride in maintaining them and keeping up their appearance I wouldn’t bother. This is a purchase you make with your heart not your head. My L322 is now 17 years old and I still clay bar the thing !
10 minutes and 59 seconds of "what goes wrong" session... Bloody hell
Its true
And the workshop - dealer and indy always seems to say... I've never seen one of these do that!
The ‘S’ in SDv8 can’t refer to supercharged diesel v8, surely. It’s not supercharged, it’s a twin turbo.
@@davids8324sport diesel
Were you surprised? :)
@@davids8324 it's just an S... Doesn't mean anything other than to seperate it from the tdv, which is the older, indentical engine producing less power.
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I bought an L405 new in October 2020 and I have had absolutely no problems with it at all since then. It's a magnificent car - no complaints from me.
Having owned five different JLR vehicles over the past 10 years I can only speak of my experience. Always bought certified used from the dealer and have not had a single unexpected problem from any of them. Brakes, tires, and oil changes. Toss in a brake fluid flush every now and then and a battery after three years. I drive 12k-15k miles per year. I see many comments about Toyota reliability yet in the news right now we have a major engine recall and now possibly faulty transmissions on 2024 Tacoma trucks. My point is that EVERY manufacturer goes through problems but the proof is whether they fix it and make it better. I am about to buy a 2019 Range Rover from a close friend that bought it new. It is his second one and again, no major problems AND he drives his off-road in the Southwest going hiking and back-country skiing. Sorry to say but I am a fan of JLR products as it has never let me down.
I’m about to buy my first as well. I’ve owned most of the “other brands” (BMW, Porsche, etc…), but I have a buddy with 2 RRs and he won’t stop talking about how they’re the most amazing cars he has (he has like 10 cars. Couple beemers, Audi, Porsche and 2 Rovers). I am only looking at certified pre owned , and still doing PPI. Can’t wait to get my first one.
@@mattrichard9006 I'm in the same boat. I've seen a Hybrid L405 with 65k on the clock for £19k. I'm awaiting my 2015 Jag XJ to sell first, before I go ahead with the purchase.
May I ask you if you live in England?
@@mattrichard9006 I forgot to mention I have owned four different MB products over the years and had problems with 3 of them. The last one was an E420 that had plastic cam oilers crack at approximately 80k miles. Poor design using plastic instead of aluminum, like the replacement part. Sold the car after that and never owned another MB product again.
@ wow. I was so close to jumping on the MB train. Looks like RR is next for me!
When I bought a D4 Disco ("the reliable one") with the Ford V6 diesel described in this review, I thought "oh well at least the engine is a Ford". Boy, was I in for an expensive surprise.
Bottom end goes boom
Me too. Broken crankshaft broke my wallet and faith in land rovers
Those are the worst engines 😂
I’ve had my D4 since 2013 it’s now on 265000km and no such catastrophic experience at all. Only replaced my air shocks for the first time this year 12years later.
18 years daily driving my 2006 Range Rover. Love it.
That's why you call your self VW4life
Please let me know how many miles or kilometers it's done. Thanks in advance.
@@unnikrishnan3665 181,000km
You must be a magician
is it a 4.4l?
This is my new favorite car channel
I owned a 93 land rover discovery and had random electrical issues. Put the window washers on and the blinkers would flash. Hit the horn, the wipers would come on. The best one was putting the power window down shut the engine off. Take finger off the switch and the engine fired up again.
The thing cost me thousands in repairs, and I ended up selling it as a farm only vehicle.
Damn I loved it. Such a good car.
I have had cars that were appalling, issues galore, dangerous.
Loved them and miss them.
Wow, insane and hilarious that the window switch would short the ignition circuit.
Other one sounds like a Clock spring assembly - Basically the part in your steering wheel that allows the wiring to function as you turn it.
My old Holden Crewman used to randomly honk the horn for the same reason.
I was in the workshop one day messing with a machine, about a week after buying the thing and the workshop supervisor comes rushing up with an angry look on his face, my car was parked in the car park with the horn just absolutely blaring out.
I own a 2015 V8 Supercharged 510 hp in USA. SWB with autobiography interior. Bought it certified pre-owned when 3 y/o. Phenomenal vehicle. I drive 9-10 k miles per year. 75 k currently. Also bought extended warranty to protect me if I encountered electrical issues (mechanic recommended). Only issue has been a front control arm.
I would buy this all over again. Previous to this I had 2 Lexus LS 460’s. Other than the electronics of the Lexus, the luxury is comparable and doesn’t disappoint.
I think the key thing when buying one of these is to buy an extended manufacturer's warranty. That way you're protected from the potential for catastrophe. If you can't afford the extended warranty, you can't afford to own one. Additionally, I very much agree with Jim, do an engine oil and filter change every 6k miles and change the gearbox, transfer case, and differential oils every 25k miles.
As far as the LS 460, it's also a very complicated and heavy car, and can cost quite a lot to maintain. In particular, the suspension costs a lot to fix when it fails. Sure, Lexus and Toyota have the best reputations, reliability-wise, but from the LS 460 on, Lexuses are complicated and can cost quite a lot more to maintain than most people appreciate when out of warranty. And not all Lexus/Toyota engines are bullet proof, either, far from it. Again, the key is the extended warranty program.
Owning any 21st century luxury car out of warranty can be expensive.
My boss got his diesel 2018 Range Rover Vogue serviced at the stealership. They charged him $4800 . The car only has done 72,000 km. What a joke .
This was a service nothing was wrong with the car.
That's insane. I'd love to know what were the items listed on the invoice.
They charge like $250 per hour for labor and upcharge the parts like crazy.
You can buy everything for an oil change for $100. It's over $500 at the dealer
I think the reason the exorbitant high price is only due to the fact that most of the serviceable parts are hidden behind the engine and it's often so complicated trying to loose the entire thing just to access a single repair point. This is the only reason mist mechanics charge so much to service these things. They're unlike the toyota brands where almost every part is easily accessible to mechanics. I love them though and seriously considering buying one but still a little worried...lol
@@dermotwallace5533 well that’s just poor engineering.
My boss has now sold the Range Rover and purchased a Mercedes AMG SUV . It goes in for a service next week, I’ll let you know how much it costs to service.
The garages get a very poor deal from the manufacturers on warranty work, so they need to make profit somehow. With Range Rovers I guess there is lots of warranty work!
I am just here to read the comments from owners claiming that their Range Rover has gone a million kilometers without so much as a burnt-out light bulb and the only maintenance or repairs needed have been an occasional oil change or windshield washer fluid top-up plus replacing the wiper blades and brakes!
My parents own a 2015 Discovery 4 with 3.0L V6 diesel engine, 115,000 km on it. Our experience has been great so far. It had only a few problems and things needing change (2nd battery, timing belt, spark plugs, gear selector control unit error (a few litres of transmission oil were added and no more problems). No other big or small problems. I drive it often and absolutely love it. I also like the peace of mind when it comes to overcoming any terrain - snow, mud, sand, and others. Though I wouldn't own it as servicing costs are crazy expensive.
Spark plugs on your diesel???
@@r.b.8635 Obviously glow plugs.
My favourite part of these breakdown videos of hugely unreliable cars is going to the comments and still seeing people deny that the car is unreliable despite the indisputable evidence being laid out as clearly as possible in painstakingly specific detail by an expert independent mechanic who has spent his entire life working on and researching cars, not to mention the hours and hours and hours of research that went into this video 🗿it is comical
Gee the "What Goes Wrong" section for the Ford Everest is so long!
Range Rover: Hold My Pimm's
Incredible it has reached 220,000km! Looks good for the mileage and age.
220,000 km and only ten replacement engines! ;-)
@@davidkmatthews and how many replacement interiors?
Lovely review! I'm currently writing a script for a L494 RRS in-depth review and there's so much to cover. You're doing a wonderful job of summarizing different aspects.
If you are handy with the spanners & have a lot of patience they are good value. 2015 SDV8 owner. Bought with FSH at 100k km & now knocking on 200k km with no major issues. Service every 10k is a great piece of advice. 👍
Jaguar Land Rover's perceived unreliability, Toyota Lexus's perceived reliability -- as an owner of both I can tell you neither is true anymore.. Just get a pre-purchase inspection, get a warranty, and don't worry about it.
I'd rather be in a lexus than the JLR, the lexus shares parts with the land cruiser and plenty of people have them meaning cheaper to service than the RR and less prone to failing.
clearly u don't own either from this statement, even an unreliable lexus is still far better than anything that comes out of landrover, i have no jokes seen people take their range rovers back to the dealership for servicing 2 weeks after buying it
Perceived? There were protests in CHINA, the land of Tian An Men Square, about the terrible quality of these vehicles.
I have owned ten Lexus's and never, not a single thing has ever gone wrong with them. That CANNOT be said for a JLR product. Their reliability is woeful and well documented.
I agree with @papagen00. If you can get an extended factory warranty when buying ANY used large luxury car, you should most certainly get one, and that includes when buying a Lexus!
However, it is true that LR products have many more warranty claims early in their lives than Lexuses. Maybe older Lexuses are still significantly less likely to have problems, but when they do, parts and labour are equally expensive.
The big Lexuses cost a lot to fix suspension issues, especially from the LS 460 forward. And even Lexus and Toyota engines can have big problems. Most notably, the early DI 2.5 V6 is a dog!
LRs aren't as unreliable as generally perceived. And Lexuses/Toyotas aren't as reliable as generally perceived. Those two statements are true facts.
That doesn't mean LRs don't have plenty of problems and Lexuses/Toyotas don't have worthy reputations for reliability. What it means is you should get an extended warranty when buying both used to protect against the potential for big maintenance/repair bills.
Moreover, there is no Lexus SUV that delivers what the big Range Rover delivers, in terms of comfort, luxury, capability, driveability, performance, feel good factor, prestige, or styling, let alone all in one package.
Lastly, Lexuses aren't anywhere near as good as they once were. That's also a true fact.
I ‘ve got both. LX470 from new in 1999, now with 470,000 kms. L405 now with 100,000 kms. Lexus not without issues, one that nearly killed me. Hydraulic suspension replaced with springs and shocks. RR much nicer car- power, torque, massively more economical. We’ll see if its still this good at 500,000 kms.
Honestly, listing all that can possibly go wrong with any car. Range Rover was just a prop used. But very informative and creative way. These are now brilliant.
To anyone who hasn’t watched - Jim gave this a 10/10 for being as reliable as a Lexus!
He loved it!!
😂 nuh uh
They're great cars if A: You buy them depreciated B: You have a good warranty C: You know how to work on them or D: You have the resources to fix them. I don't think they're bad cars. I know they're not. It is a Land Rover after all. Many people who have no business buying them tend to buy them used and then act surprised when they break. The information is out there.
My 2019 supercharged is a tank. I've had zero issues. Absolutely love it
Very interesting to read Aussie comments about these.
They are (or were...) very common here in the UK as they're relatively cheap and a lot of car for the money.
A family member has one and absolutely loves it. He loves wrenching things himself so he doesn't mind the odd issue.
We have a lot of independent specialist garages here who can work on them too.
The main issue is how many get stolen per year here. They're now virtually uninsurable and people are canning them.
I can't comment on how many are sold here in Australia, but you certainly see a lot of these on the road. But I am not aware of any specialist repairers for them, and most workshops here use subcontractors for their electrical issues, which adds a whole other layer of pricing and markups when you get those electrical problems. All cars here have immobilisers, so when they're stolen, it's usually after they've broken into a house or office to get the keys. Is that the same in the UK?
@@tsubadaikhan6332 Interesting.
Oh man, they're ridiculously easy to steal. Keyless relay theft was the main way but a few more methods have crept in.
Is relay theft not a thing with you guys?
@@SeaJayBelfast Sorry, haven't been here for a while. Relay enhancement car theft is really unusual in Australia. All States are linked with VIN numbers and such, and you can't drive to another country to sell a stolen car. It appears it's not worth crooks buying the relay enhancers here.
There's been a little market in buying insurance write offs at auctions, and then trying to put those details on a stolen car, but even that market is tiny now the Police are over it. Police worked that one out after idiot bikies ended up in a brawl over a written off vehicle at an auction.
There are some small advantages to having a small market and getting technology later than other countries. And there's a lot of rich people here. My city of 2 million people in Perth just got a McLaren dealership. Wasn't expecting that.
Soooo love your reviews, keep'em coming... shorts included ;-)
I'm a Brit and actually only live down the road from where these are made in Solihull. Honestly, as lovely as they are, i wouldn't touch one with a 10 foot pole, how a vehicle thats so expensive be so poorly engineered is beyond me 😂 #britishcarproblems
May I ask what brand you consider exemplifies most closely the epitome of automotive engineering excellence? Excluding hyper cars.
Poorly engineered lol, have you ever actually looked at one under the skin, starting from the all aluminium body
@@Ben-in6qhif any car has many reliability issues , then it's not well engineered...
You know it's bad when:
1. "What goes wrong" section literally takes the entire video.
2. The title says, "What doesn't go wrong".
If they had just made these and the Discovery reliable they would have been the greatest vehicles the world had ever seen. They are sublime when working but they just will not be reliable. I loved my last Disco but will never buy another JLR product again. It's a travesty
@andrewpriest9047 Same here. I had a LR Discovery and would never buy one again. If I was given or won a brand new Range Rover I would sell it immediately.
I'll "thumbs up" that.
Looks Great very nice inside, but I will stick with my Pajero.....
I love the L405.
Wouldn't own one tho.
Just curious.. Have you driven an L405?
I wouldn’t go near a JLR car, not even as a company car. I’d mostly be driving a replacement Peugeot while the JLR car is in the repair shop for months at a time.
Oh no. Whatever will they do? Didn't know royalty was in the room with us
My 2017 L405 4.4 SD V8 Autobiography is the best car I have ever owned. Never goes wrong and is a joy to drive and own. Apple Car Play and Android Auto is standard
I'd take that red SSS a Pulsar in the background of the workshop
It does look mighty good
I had an N15SSS, really miss that car
@@rugbymatt07 can't wait til they do a retro series, that Escort they had on the lift for a while and this would be sweet
I had that exact car, in that colour😍
So what goes wrong with the LR RR ? Yes.
Maybe need to do a “What doesn’t poo itself” with euro cars.
I think it's time we get a ReDriven shirt with the quote "what goes wrong"
The massage turning on after a while is not a gremlin, but a function. You can set how long after starting the car it automatically turns on. I've had some issues after it has done 170.000 kms, but it's honestly the best car in the world. Get the SDV8 or V8 supercharged. These are the safest engines.
And get an extended factory warranty.
Thanks guys for all the precious work you do, This IMHO is the best channel out there for used cars reviews , will you ever review the Dacia Duster?
The Dacia is not sold in Australia my friend so I reckon you won't see it unfortunately.
Do you know by any chance where to find enough informations about this car? The only thing I can find by myself is that there's not much cars with more than 250k on the used cars market even though they say the engine is quite reliable? It's used by Mercedes too
are you talking about a car ?
Just imagine how good land rover could be if Toyota owned them.
There was a time when Rover and Honda were working quite closely, and there was nearly a merger there so it could have happened. Missed opportunity there.
These days, it's how bad they could have been. Go and look at the LC 300 pages, so many issues theymake Land Rover look good
as long as poms dont get near em
I remember Samcracc's supercharged V8 with dictionary thick service receipts (done in dealer) that the engine still went boom
Because the dealer forgot to pull the chain tensioner pins and it jumped timing after it was put back together. Thats a dealer mistake.
I'm on my second L405, both 4.4D and actually both have been very reliable. Purchased both second hand so haven't taken the hit on depreciation in fact I'd say great value for money. 30 mpg all day long in real life driving.
If you haven't already, time to go to the Casino because you're a very lucky person
Owner of an L405 SDV8 since new. My experience is the same. Only issue ive ever rattled my head with was a constant EGR fault appearing. Sorted it out after a good clean, egr temp sensor and a map sensor change.
There is a lot of hate towards Land Rover and mostly from people that have never driven or owned one. My 4.4tdv8 has been a game changer of a car. Feck the hate
@@eoghanfla6343 Seems to also be a lot of hate, and simultaneous love, from those who have had problem after expensive problem. Which is pretty much in line with what Jim said. Problems do not seem to always equate to hate with these. But read any YT comment section related to these and there very much are plenty of actual owners whose experiences turned them completely off them. But confirmation bias either way seems to be a feature of Range Rover YT comment sections.
@@DiscoFang you have some fair points there..
The other thing I see are there are two types of owners. The ones that buy from the dealer at high prices and get them maintained at the dealer and then there are the enthusiasts and home mechanics who buy them at better value and self maintain.
I think the latter tend to be the happier customer as they have gotten a bargain in their eyes. A second hand L322 or L405 are going to have problems but most of them are known and can be fixed to a degree. The Range Rover is by far one of the nicest cars I’ve ever owned and I enjoy every mile but they should not be bought by everyone, If you want reliable and uncomfortable buy a Toyota. If you want style and fear of fuel pump failure buy a Pajero. There are plenty of options out there for people anyways…
Ive owned Range Rovers for 20 years nothing is better I have an Overfinch L405 right now and love it.
That HVAC Control unit is aftermarket too. And even though hood is open, you can still drive the vehicle
At $100k second hand, they are still $100k too expensive. They make the interior so comfortable and classy so you have somewhere nice to sit while waiting for roadside assistance.
Get back in your Prius babe
Every 50+ year old man like you has an ignorant comment like this about every car manufacturer besides Toyota. If you've given up on life, just say so.
Can’t afford one then…..
Just under 100k for mine and worth it. Zero issues and it's freaking awesome. They must be hit and miss, but it seems when they miss they are pretty F'd
😂😂
People that call range rovers or landrovers unreliable, most likey haven't even used the cars.
Yeah it's usually,I know a bloke that knows this guy that new somebody that had a land rover product that was always breaking down,usually a boring land cruiser owner!!
Did you even watch the video? There’s an 11 minute section where an independent expert mechanic breaks down specifically every single thing that is documented to consistently and commonly go wrong with these. I simply do not understand how people deny these are one of, if not the most, unreliable car brands that has ever existed particularly when you consider the money it costs to buy one. Fantastic driving experience: yes. Reliable: the biggest no that has ever been assigned to something. Why deny it?
@xXYellie12Xx He's not exactly independent and he's definitely not a Land Rover/ Range Rover expert. He sounded to me he was just parroting of shit from the google machine.
I owned an 2011 evoque. Thing was a nightmare every 2 months a new error would come up on the dash costing 100s to repair. Things got so bad that Every week I would need to replace a fuse for the electric seat. Finally It went into limp mode I spent £££ trying to figure out why, eventually I gave up up and sold it to a mechanic, the only person who wanted to come view it. But I will admit, it was a head turner and miss it. It was a bit like a really hot girlfriend, expensive, good to look at but broke my heart constantly.
Five years ago I bought a five year old L405. Needed a new brake light switch early on. Tyres only lasted five years. Terrible! And the 30+ mpg on diesel doesn't help either. Still have it, of course.
legends says that the righthand side 2nd row light still turned on until today.
I do actually believe that there's a psyop about RR reliability just so select people buy them. I almost fell for it before I bought my L405 and let me tell you as a BMW/Merc owner for 20 year, this is the best car I've owned. Yes, it has issues, but so does all luxury cars, if not less. If properly maintained it will bring you joy that no other car will.
As soon as i finished watching this video I started to look RR service near me. I really want to buy one.
Are you Darth Vader? 😂 cause you love the dark side this much sir
You’re either a millionaire or delusional if you still want to buy one after watching this 😂 I hope it’s the first option!
😂
Do it! Go to a higher end used dealer with a good reputation. They get the good ones, 'Bob's backyard bargain cars' will have the basket cases.
Mine is amazing. Zero issues and it's glorious to drive. 10/10 recommend.
Prince William holding a camera nice 1!
Had my 2016 l405 diesel 3 years now love it no problems so far. I purposefully stay away from the stealership they will clean you out imo. I do basic work myself or use a highly rated indy shop. Still this is not your car if you are poor.
2017 is when the dash buttons disappeared.
Awsome video. Thanks bunches. I'm really thinking about running down the Range Rover can o' worms.
After watching this I'd definitely go the wild card you guys put up without a 2nd thought
The fact it took so long to drop the back seats is ridiculous when others do it as soon as you need it too.
I think it would of been easier for Hullsy to have just said their all shit the engines and left it at that as I have a feeling the poor bloke was starting to go stark raving mad with the issues lol 😂.
Good job guys and look forward to Sunday's video as per usual 👍.
If you look again at that seat drop segment it wasn't sped up, it just had that VHS FF filter run over it at normal speed.
@@DiscoFang I know but still slow in comparison to others they've reviewed lol
Jim, you had me lost when saying that the V6/V8 is basically the same engine, but the rear is blocked off..Are you implying that two cylinder bores are without pistons, con rods etc, or actually filled in?? Please explain.
It's the exact same block but the two back pistons are literally filled in. Just Google "Jaguar V6 block" and you'll see.
Yes it’s literally a V8 short block! The 4th cylinder in each bank is filled in. You get all the weight of a V8 with all the power of a V6. A quick google and the first reddit result has pictures of this monstrosity
sweet friggin jesus, I just googled as you suggested and now I can't un-see what I've just seen...........................baby jesus wept @@AWMJoeyjoejoe
It’s something that British Leyland would have pulled off😂
@@martyn_g Even BL didn't do it. Maybe they didn't think of it. Maybe BL engineers refused to do it. Of course there are plenty of examples going back more than 50 years of V6s being developed from V8s to save development costs. Actually using the exact same V8 block for the V6 is a new low point.
I don't agree with air suspension problems. LR does air suspension very well. Yes, You probably have to replace compressor after about 200k but that's not to expensive for what is provides. Maybe even more in RR because unlike in Discovery, in the RR the compressor is not below the car. Suspension airbags are very reliable in normal use. 15 year old airbags still working well and not leaking.
I'm not sure what Range Rover model it was, but in 2022 I was driving from Karratha to Perth and pulled into a caravan park in Geraldton. A late-model Range Rover was on the back of a truck and the truck was pulling a caravan. The Range Rover had broken when it was pulling the caravan in country WA, and it was on the back of a truck on its way to be repaired. Apparently Range Rover was covering all the bills - collection, repair etc - but it was woeful end to the family holiday. I was driving a 2021 Toyota Fortuner - ie, a pimped Hilux - and I stated the obvious to the Range Rover owner - 'There is a reason why people buy Toyotas'.
Recently on a holiday in India we were in traffic behind a tilt tray carrying a brand new Rangie (still covered in shipping stickers). No joke, as we sat there behind it the side mirrors would randomly fold in and out together and separately. Plus the tail lights were flashing random patterns through the leds. We had a good laugh at this car waving and winking at us!
We did shed a tear for the sucker who would eventually end up with this patched up brand new lemon.....
Haha That last line is almost the exact thing I think whenever I see one here, feel sorry for the owner having fallen under the spell. "Oh you poor sap."
Essential summary imho: it is a spectacular vehicle if it works. Many people love it in spite of the remarkable issues. Many more simply do not understand why anyone would want to accept the trouble or risk.
I have had my 2013 Autobiography L405 for 7 years since it was 3 years old. I have reached 125000KM on my 3 litre Diesel, The only irritating fault is the top tail gate refuses to close on auto unless you you leave it a few minutes then the remote key will close it, but the top button only closes bottom tailgate. Mine is serviced on time by non franchise Range Rover garage at a reasonable cost. I love my car and will keep it at least another 3 years. Cambelt, Brakes, and transmission oils serviced at 100km.
You're in the big time getting Idris Elba on. Nice guy!
On my 3rd trip in 2 days from Byron Bay to the Gold Coast Land Rover dealership. (in a tow truck)
A 2017 Discovery a 2020 Discovery and a 2022 Defender.
Whenever my office says I have a tow to Southport I bet my house that it is a Land Rover of some description.
So I am in and out of a lot of modern Range Rovers and Land Rovers and my god they are so beautiful they are so gorgeous but so fragile.
If you have deep pockets and a spare car then go for it.
Why anyone would buy a Range Rover when the Lexus LX570 exists is beyond me.
Cause RR is lovely to drive and the LX is like driving a tank!
Because the people with the net worth to afford these barges do not give a flying fuck about 1) depreciation; because they can afford to eat the cost. 2) reliability; because their vehicles would have the warranty that covers any mechanical or electrical failures that may arise during their ownership period.
Sorry to say, but the Lexus just doesn’t compare when it comes to technological prowess and the premium amenities.
Yes, the Lexus will run until the earth has dried and shriveled up, but again, the people that can afford Range Rovers prefer the amenities, road presence and status that is associated with these land-yachts.
The LX is not available in some markets. Can't buy it here in the UK for example.
I will concede and say the Range Rovers drive better and look better and are better when they work. HOWEVER THEY ARE GIANT BUCKETS OF SHIT AND YOU SHOULD NEVER BUY ONE.
Because the LX570 is SO DAMN UGLY and bland.
Sounds like a reliable bargain!!
lol
Not only have I been driving mine trouble-free for 5 years, I have personally witnessed my vehicle perform complex cardio-thoracic surgery and win the Nobel prize for physics after it wrote a unified theory of quantum gravity.
Me, I’d buy a 25 year old Landcruiser V8 and put it on Classic Rego in SA, and spend all the money I’ve saved getting a lovely new leather interior trimmed up. On the Classic Rego I can drive it 90 days a year on the log book. So it would be available for use at least as many days per year as any Land Rover 😎 😁
Can we please have a survey of the number of armchair experts here who actually own an L405? If you owned one or own one or fix them, fair comment. Otherwise, you are talking out of your ass. I own a 2014 3L gas V6, purchased new in late 2013, in Ontario, Canada, where salt is used on the roads from November through March. I had very few mechanical issues in over 10 years of daily driving, and its aluminium body still looks great. Here, with a set of Michelin Cross-Climate 2 tires, my L405 is unstoppable in snow and ice, or off-pavement. I have never been to Australia but never heard of a snowstorm in Sydney. You have a great channel here with excellent, well-researched content. P.S. Lexus SUVs here are regarded as reliable dinosaurs and the automotive answer to insomnia.
@ReDriven what a transition! 1:48. Top marks. So suave
ingenium engine the mechanic mentioned is a straight 4 & 6 and not a V6. The V6 deisel is the same Ford still uses on the Ranger.
I have nothing but praise for JLR products. I have had two discovery 2's that have done over 350.000kms each (a diesel and a V8 petrol). I bought a Ford Ranger Wildrack in mid 2020 new and it has spent more time in the workshop with errors and bugs, several transmissions, than it has on the road. Something goes wrong every month. Every time I tow the transmission overheats and loses most of the gears. So the only vehicle I can rely on is my old V8 23 year old Discovery... its a sad state of affairs. My brother has had 5 Range Rovers and apart from very small warranty issues, has nothing but praise for them. He usually buys them at about 100,000kms and keeps them until about 250+.He tows with them and finds them better tow vehicles than any Japanese equivalents and much more economical.
RR & B:"let's appeal to the super rich with no taste..." Priceless. And True.
I wonder if any car makers have threatened to sue over these reveiws 😂
Haha, for?
@@ReDriven slagging off their "beasts". We like the honesty and the fact its Australian and relevant to us, keep it up.
It would be an honour to know we’re in their thoughts
Seems to me that Jim Hull knows more than most manufacturer-trained techs about most makes and models. You can't sue because you don't like clearly articulated opinions, and you can't sue unless claimed facts are in fact wrong, and even then if claims were the result of research and reported objectively without malice, you probably won't win anything. Also seems to me that Adam Morris does meticulous research to inform his claims and opinions. Manufacturers normally punish journalists/reviewers/influencers by withdrawing advertising and/or not inviting them to manufacturer paid for product launches, thus depriving them of content, revenues, and free luxury trips. As ReDriven isn't reviewing new cars, they risk little or nothing. Also, under Australian law, I think you're covered for anything you say as long as it's clear it's an opinion or based on experience.
Thank you for sharing the insight and giving insight to help people take informed decision.
Can’t find a video on Disco sports.
Regards
Mad prices. In the UK these can be had for extremely cheap. A poor one is about 20k AUS dollars and it goes up from there.
Is the v6 diesel a similar model to the one in Ford ranger?
Yes the lion v6 is in the ford territory and ford ranger
I was driving in a 1998 Land Rover. It was still an awesome SUV. I bought a 2016 Range a River Evoque. It was basic model. But I love my little SUV. Cost od repair ia a bit high. But once a part is replaced it will run like brand new. I love the older models like mine becuwe they were square / boxy.
Seen one with 30k km with 5 warning lights on and in need of an air suspension replacement. And no, it was not a garage queen, it was less than 1 year old
On your massage seat ‘gremlin’, check you haven’t selected the delay massage where it starts after about 10 mins of driving.
If you earn around a million a year in Australia, that 30k per annum depreciation is peanut in comparison to enjoying a RR
SDV8 stands for “Sequential diesel V 8” 👌👍
This video is everything I love about ReDriven. Well played good sirs.
i have a l405 so far so good well maintained used everyday well looked after i enjoy my L405 v6
I told my wife she could buy any car she wanted. She bought a first generation Land Rover Freelander. Enough said?
I drove it the six hundred k's back to where she bought it, the next day. I had to do it very slowly because within two minutes of being at 100kph on the highway the auto shifted down into SECOND and nearly killed me.
Gear selector goes out when you spill coffee, water oe something. That whole piece is like a mini computer. Mine went out and I had to get towed. I have spilled things on it.
My friend's family own a Morgue and they have multiple of these on their fleet.
Unfortunately most of them were unreliable, they had mechanical issues and some electrical issue.
I had 2019 Range Rover HSE, is really a nightmare, so many tiny problem, 2 years later transmission need replace, 3 years engine is toasted... my suggestion don't even buy one, good looking and luxury SUV, but so many trouble, I replace with Lexus LX, never have any issues.
Hahaha... Love your sense of humour! Enjoyed this white elephant's every bit of it..
one mechanic know every car's problem, that's intersting!
Actually these are all rumors, okay i get it good title but everyone knows they arent like they used to be. I own two range rovers, fully paid for by cash. These cars are unbeatable, luxury, speed, comfort, safety and tech. 2012 evoque compares to 2018 luxury cars. Great video.
Thinking about a 2012 Evoque Si4 Auto 4WD with 61k miles. Any thoughts?
Evoque lol, that's not a range rover that's a pos
Can you tell me how can I get the aftermarket infotainment system? I have the 2018 facelift mode.
I would really appreciate the help.
Thank you for sharing the insights.
Wanted to know if RR Velar is any good? Or same in terms of reliability issues.
Same engines. Same parts. Same assembly. Same problems.
Just get an extended manufacturer's warranty and you should be fine.
Please can you share the aftermarket instrument cluster, and the screens..
Every day I wake up and I thank God that I'm not fan of Jaguar/Land Rover products.
weird
mine had full rangrover service history and 3 months into buying it cam snapped and im now in the middle of a full rebuild costing me badly most garages wouldnt touch it
Sad to read this! If there's a next time, get that all-important extended factory warranty.
@@nigel.w its had engine full rebild now is hesatating on accelaration so garage now saying it need a gear box service lol i can not see a gearbox service helpiing the problem so 6k into it now gear box service ontop gear box was fine till they stripped car and rebuild engine my love for my rangrover has died and the garage is gonna get a letter from my solicitor there scammers lol
@@TravelWithMarti Really sad to read this. I hope you get it sorted to your satisfaction asap.
‘How do you justify the depreciation from new?” Easy- company car and can claim lease costs, running costs and depreciation which will most likely impact reportable company tax.
What is the name of the updated infotainment system? I’m curious to know if they have it here in the United States?
Great job!
All L405’s came with the digital instrument cluster.
Having a RR is like running head into a. Trauma bonded relationship. ( horrible for you but you’ll deny it and say you love it 😂 )
Ask me how I know…