I'm one of the sound designers on the movie :) Been a fan of you for a while now so was delighted to hear you enjoyed it. My sound design partner Michelle counted how many thwacks she made for the Tommy Jarvis guys face and it was around 80!!
How closely did you work with the editors? During the first act the thought occurred to me of how many hours the editors had listen to the sound of leaves crunching.
“Here at Chelsea Rebecca’s Home For Wayward Slashers, we focus on rehabilitation and bringing out the very best in our sweet boys. Every so often, for enrichment, we let them hunt a billionaire.”
Y'all missed, or at least forgot to mention, when Johny walks around the house after setting off the car alarm, you can see that the kid who tries to shoot him is visible in the window looking at Johnny walking by, foreshadowing he would try to do something.
I know you guys probably won't see this but at my screening of this, Chris Nash talked about the woodsplitter scene and how the entire body was a dummy except for the eyes which they edited on in post
I took the shift of POV being associated with the necklace. When she left it, that’s when the POV switched to her and not Johnny. He was on quest to get it back and when returned, wasn’t about him anymore.
i watched this without having seen any type of promotional material, purely based on chelsea's opinion. she was so excited about it so it's like "alright let's go, I'm going to see this in the cinema" and she was right. this is a banger of a film
when you mention how this movie is making fun of slashers but made by people who love slashers, it reminds me of this one tumblr post that always rings true. "You can always tell when an author is trying to "deconstruct" something that they think is stupid or boring or otherwise beneath them because they're unwilling or unable to develop the necessary understanding of the source material to properly rip into it and the end result invariably fucking sucks. You need to love a genre in order to truly do it violence."
As someone who adores ASMR, the long stretches of Johnny just walking aimlessly was satisfying on the ears It was like taking a nature walk with your pal who just so happens to be a murderer.
35:47 Historically, it actually was a combination of both: The stores can be run by independent vendors and the company "pays" for the supplies (hence the huge markups). And I put "pays" in quote marks because it was actually a loan that the employee was expected to pay back (with interest), thus causing a VICIOUS debt cycle. It's what the old song "16 Tons" is talking about with the line "I owe my soul to the company store." Also: I am glad I was not imagining this film had a darkly gruesome sense of humor. I'm not sure if the yoga or logging machine kill is the best. The former is more creative but the latter is more genuinely terrifying, especially considering the state of the victim throughout.
43:19 This music is indeed diegetic! In the instant Johnny passes the blade (it’s a wood planer that you would use to debark a log) Ehren lifts his hands to stop it and unplugs his cassette player headphones, so the music Ehren was listening to is now playing through the player’s built in speakers. The music does slow down and warp as the player runs out of battery. Bonus! As Johnny picks up Ehren’s body, he sees that his bright yellow shirt is a school sports shirt showing their mascot, the Rangers, thus reminding Johnny about the ranger station and giving him a motivation to then go there!
@@thehorrorwombat, I think we're going into Terrifier to expect great kills. With Violent Nature, I didn't expect the gruesomeness due to how subtle the in-between (walking) scenes played out. Don't get me wrong, I'm still stoked for T3.
I waited to watch this podcast until I was able to see the movie! It was so good! One thing I noticed while watching was in relation to Johnny being drawn to these sounds. When hiking or camping, a general rule is make plenty of noise. Animals avoid humans and events like serious bear attacks tend to occur when bears are accidentally snuck up on or surprised. Johnny inverts this rule, and by doing something that should be keeping these kids safe, they get themselves killed.
To add to the “Johnny is an animal” messaging, when Johnny is scared at the end, he MAULS the body. Not his usual kill then move on. Where some rules differ from violent animal encounters, others remain the same
I can't wait for this to hit Shudder/Home media. I had two teenagers who spent the entire movie talking. I would likely appreciate the sound design and pacing a lot more if I was able to be immersed and hear more of it.
You must have a great sound system at home, because I don’t know how I would enjoy this outside a theater. Do you wear headphones when watching movies?
@@thomasffrench3639 Yes my current set up is my laptop with headphones. My TV had a great sound system that worked well for for immersive things likeSkinamarink but the screen went bad a few months ago 😥
Damn that stinks! I was lucky and was able to see this at a 10:30 PM screening completely by myself. It was pretty damn awesome. I have a feeling you’ll enjoy it MUCH more once you can be totally immersed in it!
I didn't like that scene for the first 2 mins but then i found myself listening to the story like I was there but also worried and frightened because I was sure Johnny was going to ruin story time, also the constant rotation of the camera heightened that fear.
I'm sure others have noticed this, but I just realized that Johnny "learns" the car horn lure trick from the ranger as he's trying to get #1 Motherfucker out of his house before the first kill. Just another reason to love this movie. Also, great podcast as always, love ya'll commentary on these awesome movies!
i thought it was pretty cool how when the tommy jarvis character pops up behind johnny and johnny instantly hits him in the head with a axe like he got scared because he has the mind of a child and is kinda similar to the story of him dying by being jump scared and falling off the fire tower which was why he was wailing on the guys so much after he killed him
That’s a good theory. Honestly these theories remind me of the Friday the 13th fandom who debate if Jason didn’t drown or did drown and just came back to life. And I think that is totally intentional by the filmmaker who is likely a part of that fandom.
@@eujinxed1173that’s my theory as well. It’s not really stated in the movies how he’s back in Part 2. I think it’s really fascinating that it’s left up to interpretation, because it adds mystery and unease for what type of being Jason is. It’s ambiguous.
@thomasffrench3639 a documentary about f13 part 2 discusses this logic and tldr they said f it and just made jason the killer. They didn't know how to make this happen because the first director intentionally made jason a dead kid to be dead
Did anyone else feel a little bad for Johnny, especially after seeing him play with the toy car? Like, at the end of the day, he's basically just a little kid who wants to be left alone.
I was like Chelsea when I saw that scene. I was like, aw, he just wants to be left alone with his mom's necklace to play with his toy cars! What a sweet boy!
I saw Zoran describe it as 'Horror ASMR', and after having seen the film myself, it's a very apt description. It's almost weird in how soothing parts of this film can be. And then they crank it hard in the other direction, and all that slowness from earlier helps ratchet up the effect. Wonderful film. I don't know if I'd rewatch as much as something like The Dead Zone or House of Dracula, but I will definitely rewatch it at some point.
Even though I didn't, I would have walked out at how little that girl wanted to survive apparently XD. No running or a struggle. Like my friend whispers to me "I guess she's stuck up there", and then it zooms out to show the cliff when he kicks her body down..... "She so could have rolled down that hill" LMAO, it was so manageable XD
@krismarshall3803 it was definitely the freeze response, but yeah, I'd much rather take my chances tumbling down a cliff side than whatever a hulking dude in an antique firefighter suit has planned for me.
Listening to how excited James and Chelsea were the whole time talking about this episode was so awesome. I really loved the movie, and Chelsea talking about how much she laughed during the Yoga kill made me feel validated for also laughing during it. I can’t wait to see this movie again after all the things you brought up about. This episode was really fun to listen to.
For anyone wondering: the tool that's used to kill the walkman guy is a drawknife (among other things used to debark logs). I really like how the movie uses lesser known forestry tools, axes and chainsaws are such a cliche nowadays. I imagine that's what it felt like to see a chainsaw used as a weapon in the 70s. When the killer started the log-splitter I thought it was a sawmill, that would've been absolutely grotesque (in a good way)
I saw this in a theater and I loved the cinematography, sound design, gore, and the nods to other horror movies. Some scenes did drag and felt a bit like padding. The last monologue scene seemed a bit "Oh we need to explain more to the audience" but it was acted well. Not to mention there were at least 3 times I literally exclaimed "Holy shit!" "What the actual fuck?!" in this very quiet theater. I laughed a lot and no one else in the audience gave much reactions. I had fun anyway.
Yeah I think it would have been fine if it was shorter. I like the concept of it and the ending “non-scare” was really effective. I was like 80% sure that he wouldn’t jump out at her, but the 20% chance he would kept me on the edge of my seat.
@@thomasffrench3639 Like I understand the point is the walking scenes are meant to be "boring" but there were a couple in particular that really, really dragged on, particularly some still shots of just nature (which were admittedly very nice still).
@@pusheenqueen519I’m referring to the monologue specifically. I didn’t find the rest of the film boring at all, it was really engaging due to the excellent cinematography and great sound design along with a bunch of stuff happening either in the foreground or background.
i had to drive 45 minutes to see it in theaters but wow it was worth it. so much that i actually want twice. i absolutely loved everything about this, the "hey wanna check out this cool spider" to get brodie (stoner lesbian) in the house had me fucking crying laughing both times
After hearing this discussion, it's made me rephrase my own thoughts on the movie. It may have just been when I saw it late at night after work but I just wasn't putting the pieces together of the slowness of it all but I was chuckling each time the next long walk sequence would happen. Really thoughtful video and I appreciate hearing your takes :)
Watched it this morning, and feel in love with this film. I unironically love the slow pace and found Johnny walking around really interesting. But to be fair its one of those films that feels tailored to my tastes, just happy this films exists.
I'm so happy ya'll also thought it was particularly funny! Such a great sense of humor from the filmmakers and actors, you can tell they were really well versed in horror expectations and how to subvert them in funny and cruel ways.
In A Violent Nature: Ranger Danger would be an interest prequel to watch. It would be interesting if they elaborated on the cover-up where certain people know it is Johnny and those people are gaslighting others into thinking the attacks are from a wild animal. Of course the best would be an origin story of In A Violent Nature: Lumberjack Massacre lol. Keep up the good work y'all.
The Ranger kill has been living in my head rent free. He paralyzed that guy and made him watch himself slowly getting chopped apart. I thought he was gunna split him up the middle like Terrifier. The only "complaint" I have is I think the killer's mask looks dumb as hell, but the story for it still works
@@HauntedHeme13 yeah same. That kill really stuck with me. Yoga Kill was fun, but it was a little disappointing if I’m being honest because of how hyped up it was. It’s an objectively cool kill, I just had expectations too high.
@@thomasffrench3639100% my experience too man! I had heard soooo much about the yoga kill that I guess I expected more lol. I saw someone say “move over Terrifier fans”… BUT I heard absolutely nothing about the ranger wood splitter kill and him being paralyzed with his eyes darting around…. Easily most disturbing kill of the movie for me!
Ahhhh! This movie was filmed in my town! So amazing to see this movie getting as much love as it has been especially from you guys along with Stephen King!❤️
Finally saw this thanks to this podcast. I LOVE THIS MOVIE! Yall were right about how the sound works. That cassette player made me feel so uneasy the longer it went. The Kills....each one was unique! Thanks again guys!
I love when I can see two frames from a trailer and just KNOW the movie was filmed in Canada 😂 Was a little surprised to hear it was in Ontario and not BC though! Can't wait to watch this one!
i'm not into super heavy gore movies so i am glad i listened to you guys talk about it, and man it's always such a treat to hear you guys talk about movies :) i always look forward to new podcast episodes!
The most mindblowing part of this movie is how every single death was foreshadowed and had symbolism to it. Like, for example, Troy wasn't the friendliest and called his friends a lot of names; he died by literal sticks and stones.
First thing I thought of after finishing this film was how I FINALLY get to watch this podcast, one of my favorite things about catching up on horror releases I missed!
Kind of wondering with the monologue at the end and all the talk of animals they meant this as some kind of twisted take on a nature documentary where we’re just following the great northern slasher villain as he stalks his prey through the woods, sans Attenborough narration. Really enjoyed this movie
I'm so glad I went out and saw this before the pod dropped cause those kills truly were something else. I've got complicated feelings about the thing as a whole but It's so uniquely and conceptually cool I have no choice but to love it
i saw this at sundance and ever since THAT ONE KILL scene happened i was so excited for u guys to see it and now there's a whole episode on the movie so the wait paid off
A lot of it is more explainable then you might realize. When he goes in the lake he isn't swimming the whole length, it's most likely a comp shot, as soon as he is fully submerged in the water they just cut to the next shot right there. His head is above water behind the pier when he emerges, he's merely waiting behind it. The rock one is even more rudimentary. If it wasn't CGI it could very easily be a comp shot with the a fake big rock masking his face with what they explode around it in a different shot. A more fun solution could be it's hollow inside the rock and it's filled with jelly and stuff and it's essentially a cream pie.
I also cannot get the "the black fly song" out of my head. I was an usher at my local theater when this movie came out and it is one of the only credit songs I can remember that I never got sick of hearing.
Ginny says Paul like 50 times in that movie how can you forget his name? Ginny’s the GOAT and they forgot her boyfriend’s name. SMH Edit: it could be a reference to Arrested Development.
45:00 I absolutely lost my shit when Johnny just yeets Aaron's headless body into the glass case. I had to pause it because I was laughing so hard lol.
I just watched the movie and loved it. It is so wonderful to see a Canadian indie film on a seriously thin budget be so great. I got to the yoga scene and was like “this is going to win best kill and the next Horror Awards”. I’m so glad you have been championing this film because it definitely got me to watch it.
Just watched this at home and I absolutely loved it too! I'm glad I read a little bit on Wikipedia that the film was shot like a nature documentary because I went in respecting the pace and not wondering why it was so quote unquote boring between the kills.
I’m so happy that you two loved this movie too. I know a lot of people won’t agree or call me crazy, but for me, personally, this is in my top 3 favorite movies of the year. Most definitely dedicated to a niche audience. But I AM THAT NICHE AUDIENCE. Been waiting for a slasher like this for years and it delivered on all fronts. Didn’t get to see it in theaters because the closest location was hours away, but I had the privilege of watching this by myself in front of a massive 80 inch screen. I strapped myself in because I was so excited. Seriously love everything about this film and I cannot wait for the sequel. Fingers crossed to them releasing to more theaters. I truly think Terrifier 3 helped pave the way for more amazing movies to finally get their big screen experience.
i know this was posted a few months ago but i just watched and really loved the naturalist aspect of this film. the change of point of view in a situation we so clearly know of a slasher isn't just a new insight, but i found that for the first time it externalizes the panic of any character/victim and the gore becomes just a step in the storyline that doesn't try for you to empathize more than the inevitable. in the end, when the storyline (quest to find the necklace) is over, we finally get to see a reaction/consequence to the occured, and even then it's still contained and more sensorial. This movie takes us out of our 'humanness' to watch a more "natural" 'animal' who is inherently violent and doesn't have our destructive concept of death to those around it. the violence we (humans) translated to language conventionally - (i think it's intentional the one talkative "cancellable" guy is the first killed from the group by cutting through his mouth when the killer doesn't speak). Even the killer in his most 'animal' state, kills for a material thing he humanly saves from his mother, not because he needs to. The secondary story and conversations of the characters became so not relevant to the landscapes and (pun intended) violent nature of the movie, that it is almost an analysis of animal-human brain and mass as it also self-conscious of it being a movie slasher.
Saw this the day it came out by myself in a theater that was just me. It was so calming funny enough. I walked out feeling like I just watched a nature documentary lol. Really enjoyed that interesting viewing experience.
The pink ribbons are for the guy putting the traps in the woods to find the trap once he steps off trail. Its like a more permanent popcorn trail for the character.
I did watch it at home but I used headphones (glad I did). There were a few bits I laughed at (the completely stoic ranger kill and the axe to the guy's face near the end) and i wasn't sure if i was supposed to so I'm glad that other people did as well!
I was excited for this movie but kinda worried it was gonna be another skinamarink (which I have mixed feelings about) but I was so amazed when I walked out of the theater. The beautiful ambiance, the bits of lore sprinkled in and of course the kills it was awesome. I wished I went to watch a second time.
I need this to be streaming already. Can’t fully listen until I’ve seen it but I am freaking stoked to hopefully be able to see it this weekend (question mark?).
In my opinion I thought that this was a pretty entertaining movie. I wasn’t too bored nor was I constantly checking my phone even though I was watching this at the comfort of my home. Granted, I knew what I was going into after I watched this video. The kills are for sure the main highlight though, they are crazy brutal and I think James is gonna have one hell of a time kill counting this movie and I absolutely can’t wait for it.
I literally went to my small local theater at one of the last showings if this movie at midnight specifically to be ready for this podcast episode ❤ I really did like the movie, even though I also don't love slashers/gore. Thank you for explaining why this movie is so cool and all the hard work your team does!! ❤❤❤
I thought it would be like a POV movie too. Glad to hear it isn't and I'm excited to check it out! Also, f you want a POV killer movie, check out Manic (with Elijah Wood)
Make sure to qualify remake. You don’t want people checking out the original film on accident. If you know what you are getting into with the first movie, then great, but the original is pretty disturbing
50:23 When Johnny first got her I thought, "ok good kill," but he just kept GOING! My mouth was open the rest of the scene. Great kill, I knew it would make it on the next Dead Meat Awards 😂
My biggest problem with this movie was also one that I had with Late Night With the Devil. It's that they have a really unique concept, but then don't keep it up the whole way through. Like for LNWTD it was marketed as being found footage of a broadcast from the 70s, but then there's so much in the film that breaks with that convention. And then in this one, the concept of following from the killer's POV just completely vanishes in the last 10-15 minutes of the movie. I don't know, I just ended up being let down by both movies because I wanted them to fully follow through with how they were sold. And to see how the movies could be within the restrictive constraints of their concepts.
I thought the change in perspective at the end of this movie was a stroke of genius. Realistically from what we knew of Johnny it was unrealistic that he could catch up with her, especially after they had been driving down the road for five minutes, but our understanding of horror movie tropes is so ingrained that we couldn't give them up. Johnny can't teleport, he can't psychically determine where the characters will be, and he can't drive. We got to experience the fear she might have for the rest of her life despite it not being rational. I wish I could relive watching the end of this movie again not knowing if Johnny will just show up or not. The tracking shots reminded me of the shots at the end of Holloween when we had no idea where Michael Myers was anymore, or the ambiguity of the ending of The Thing. I like how open everything felt.
For LNWTD, I feel like it's not quite "this is found footage" as it is "this is what someone in-universe viewing the footage would see". SPOILERS BELOW The only things that break from the found-footage angle, if I recall correctly, are the hypnosis scene and the ending segment. The former works with the angle that hypnosis works on anyone who sees it, even through TV. To me, the latter still makes sense since at that point the demon has directly taken control over the broadcast; what is seen is no longer just something captured on film by a camera, but something supernaturally manipulated by the demon.
The slowed down music coming from Ehren's walkman, as the battery is dying is inventive AF. And yeah, it's because the battery is dying (walkman cassette players slow down when that happens). Pretty sure it was to give the impression that it took Johnny a very long time to drag him to the ranger station (plus, great way to make the scene even more twisted). I highly recommend getting blazed for this movie.
literally JUST got home from watching this, as a movie i thought it was bad but as a horror movie i really enjoyed it. I was pleasantly surprised with the gore in this movie and johnny as a killer.
I thought at the ending that maybe they were driving towards Johnny bc i didnt know like where outve the woods she came from when she found the car-so in my head at the end i was like-“oh shit how far have they driven-are they moving away from Johnny or closer to him” bc of how expansive the woods seem in the film-either way i love this movie and i didnt even consider the thematic ways in which characters died so thank you for pointing this out in the podcast!
Watched a lot of pre rec and this is most DEFINITELY taking from the game. I'm not trying to belittle the filmmakers, this is apples and oranges, through the looking glass whatever, game and movie imo are great
I've been so torn over whether I would enjoy this film. I was really looking forward to your podcast so I could get a good idea of the film. I'm so glad I watched this!! Based on your commentary this sounds like a film I would appreciate.
When it comes to appreciating genre material I find the biggest difference between myself and James & Chelsea is with regard to run-time. They'll say 'man, I'd love this a lot more if only it were 80 minutes!' whereas I tend to think 'man, if only this were two hours!' so I can't tell you how happy I was to hear they both loved IAVN. I get why those prolonged walking sequences might grate on folks' nerves, but I loved every bit of it because it finally answers the question of how slashers can ever kill anyone when they're walking and everyone else is running their asses off. Lastly, I'm glad I'm not the only one that cackled like a lunatic when Yoga Girl's corpse only made it halfway down that slope. Excellent work as always!
Honestly, I would love more shorter slashers. More films need something like the opening of Friday remake, and that would not work for a 90 minute movie.
Johnny: *brutally kills a bunch of Rangers and teenagers*
Chelsea: he's so sweet, I can fix him!
Why is this accurate
So sweet! 😊
i immediately thought "my son" when i saw johnny playing with the car after mutilating someone
When you're right, you're right! @@mortua_conjuga
Well, you just need to make sure not to take any heirlooms from the guy and give him a toy car or two to play with, and you'd be fine!
I'm one of the sound designers on the movie :) Been a fan of you for a while now so was delighted to hear you enjoyed it.
My sound design partner Michelle counted how many thwacks she made for the Tommy Jarvis guys face and it was around 80!!
Awesome work, Tim! Honored to have you as a fan
Great job! The sound design created such a tense atmosphere and I haven't felt that from a movie in a really long time. 👍
@@jbonesrva9679 very kind of you to say, thank you! Glad it worked for you :)
How closely did you work with the editors? During the first act the thought occurred to me of how many hours the editors had listen to the sound of leaves crunching.
Loved the footsteps!! This was a great movie.
“Here at Chelsea Rebecca’s Home For Wayward Slashers, we focus on rehabilitation and bringing out the very best in our sweet boys. Every so often, for enrichment, we let them hunt a billionaire.”
“We have a strong arts and crafts program”
@@evanlinden4410 “Look, Michael and Jason are making friendship bracelets!”
Y'all missed, or at least forgot to mention, when Johny walks around the house after setting off the car alarm, you can see that the kid who tries to shoot him is visible in the window looking at Johnny walking by, foreshadowing he would try to do something.
I know you guys probably won't see this but at my screening of this, Chris Nash talked about the woodsplitter scene and how the entire body was a dummy except for the eyes which they edited on in post
That's pretty cool.
Oh wow that’s wild.
Sweet heart we can tell a lot of those bodies were dummies no shade
that's acessss
Its actually extremely convenient you post these right when i get off of work, i get to go home smoke and relax and listen to yous guys.
I listen to these when I'm working overnights, it's the only thing that keeps me sane.
Ugh I want to be off work 🥲
I'm just clocking in for work 💀
I’m going to work rn u lucky bastard 😂
this is me currently
I took the shift of POV being associated with the necklace. When she left it, that’s when the POV switched to her and not Johnny. He was on quest to get it back and when returned, wasn’t about him anymore.
Chelsea: Welcome to the Dead Meat Podcast-
Molly: UPPIES NOW PLEASE
when Chelsea is this enthusiastic about smth I’m seated bc I KNOW she’s correct
Yeah, well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
i watched this without having seen any type of promotional material, purely based on chelsea's opinion. she was so excited about it so it's like "alright let's go, I'm going to see this in the cinema" and she was right. this is a banger of a film
Hope Johnny makes it into next years Horror Royal Rumble
Hmm, how’s Chelsea gonna do his mask, though…? Also, do you think she can use “The Black Fly Song” as his entry music?
when you mention how this movie is making fun of slashers but made by people who love slashers, it reminds me of this one tumblr post that always rings true.
"You can always tell when an author is trying to "deconstruct" something that they think is stupid or boring or otherwise beneath them because they're unwilling or unable to develop the necessary understanding of the source material to properly rip into it and the end result invariably fucking sucks. You need to love a genre in order to truly do it violence."
I love that, that's so fun lmao
As someone who adores ASMR, the long stretches of Johnny just walking aimlessly was satisfying on the ears
It was like taking a nature walk with your pal who just so happens to be a murderer.
35:47 Historically, it actually was a combination of both: The stores can be run by independent vendors and the company "pays" for the supplies (hence the huge markups). And I put "pays" in quote marks because it was actually a loan that the employee was expected to pay back (with interest), thus causing a VICIOUS debt cycle.
It's what the old song "16 Tons" is talking about with the line "I owe my soul to the company store."
Also: I am glad I was not imagining this film had a darkly gruesome sense of humor.
I'm not sure if the yoga or logging machine kill is the best. The former is more creative but the latter is more genuinely terrifying, especially considering the state of the victim throughout.
43:19 This music is indeed diegetic! In the instant Johnny passes the blade (it’s a wood planer that you would use to debark a log) Ehren lifts his hands to stop it and unplugs his cassette player headphones, so the music Ehren was listening to is now playing through the player’s built in speakers. The music does slow down and warp as the player runs out of battery.
Bonus! As Johnny picks up Ehren’s body, he sees that his bright yellow shirt is a school sports shirt showing their mascot, the Rangers, thus reminding Johnny about the ranger station and giving him a motivation to then go there!
The Yoga Kill is THE Horror kill of the year. It’s fucking GNARLY.
If there is a Golden Chainsaw for the year, this would be the winner.
Let’s see what terrifier 3 is bringing to the table tho
@@thehorrorwombat, I think we're going into Terrifier to expect great kills. With Violent Nature, I didn't expect the gruesomeness due to how subtle the in-between (walking) scenes played out.
Don't get me wrong, I'm still stoked for T3.
Fr, it was like watching a Mortal Kombat Fatality IRL
@@weirdguy1495 I mean, that's technically what Best Kill is at the Dead Meat Awards, so this is definitely the front runner for that Prime Rib.
This movie reminds me of Tom Cardy’s Lord of the Rings song: “they walk walk walk walk walk walk somebody’s following them walk walk walk walk…”
“Nighttime walk, walk walk, attacked by tweees… I’M BUT A THIRD OF THE WAY THROUGH”
I waited to watch this podcast until I was able to see the movie! It was so good! One thing I noticed while watching was in relation to Johnny being drawn to these sounds. When hiking or camping, a general rule is make plenty of noise. Animals avoid humans and events like serious bear attacks tend to occur when bears are accidentally snuck up on or surprised. Johnny inverts this rule, and by doing something that should be keeping these kids safe, they get themselves killed.
To add to the “Johnny is an animal” messaging, when Johnny is scared at the end, he MAULS the body. Not his usual kill then move on. Where some rules differ from violent animal encounters, others remain the same
I can't wait for this to hit Shudder/Home media. I had two teenagers who spent the entire movie talking. I would likely appreciate the sound design and pacing a lot more if I was able to be immersed and hear more of it.
You must have a great sound system at home, because I don’t know how I would enjoy this outside a theater. Do you wear headphones when watching movies?
@@thomasffrench3639headphones are key if you actually wanna enjoy a good movie outside of theaters and don’t have a sound system.
@@thomasffrench3639 Yes my current set up is my laptop with headphones. My TV had a great sound system that worked well for for immersive things likeSkinamarink but the screen went bad a few months ago 😥
Damn that stinks! I was lucky and was able to see this at a 10:30 PM screening completely by myself. It was pretty damn awesome. I have a feeling you’ll enjoy it MUCH more once you can be totally immersed in it!
Once this movie started I thought "If it's just this for the entire time I'll be happy." so aside from the campfire scene, I was happy.
That scene felt like 40 minutes long 😂
I didn't like that scene for the first 2 mins but then i found myself listening to the story like I was there but also worried and frightened because I was sure Johnny was going to ruin story time, also the constant rotation of the camera heightened that fear.
@@normcollison2659 I would have been happy if we stayed with Johnny walking around them the whole scene instead
@@robertstoner4973 That would've been so cool.
I felt like I was getting dizzy during that scene 😂 I just wanted the story to be over so we could move on lmao
I'm sure others have noticed this, but I just realized that Johnny "learns" the car horn lure trick from the ranger as he's trying to get #1 Motherfucker out of his house before the first kill. Just another reason to love this movie.
Also, great podcast as always, love ya'll commentary on these awesome movies!
i thought it was pretty cool how when the tommy jarvis character pops up behind johnny and johnny instantly hits him in the head with a axe like he got scared because he has the mind of a child and is kinda similar to the story of him dying by being jump scared and falling off the fire tower which was why he was wailing on the guys so much after he killed him
Real quick, on the johnny origin story, I was getting the impression that Johnny's spirit took over his father dead body and got revenge.
That’s a good theory. Honestly these theories remind me of the Friday the 13th fandom who debate if Jason didn’t drown or did drown and just came back to life. And I think that is totally intentional by the filmmaker who is likely a part of that fandom.
@@thomasffrench3639I genuinely believe Jason survived the drowning n washed up on the shore
@@eujinxed1173that’s my theory as well. It’s not really stated in the movies how he’s back in Part 2. I think it’s really fascinating that it’s left up to interpretation, because it adds mystery and unease for what type of being Jason is. It’s ambiguous.
@thomasffrench3639 a documentary about f13 part 2 discusses this logic and tldr they said f it and just made jason the killer. They didn't know how to make this happen because the first director intentionally made jason a dead kid to be dead
@@Bruteworldwide it’s totally unintentional from Paramount, but I’m referring to stuff inspired by F13 like In a Violent Nature or Hatchet.
Did anyone else feel a little bad for Johnny, especially after seeing him play with the toy car? Like, at the end of the day, he's basically just a little kid who wants to be left alone.
I was like Chelsea when I saw that scene. I was like, aw, he just wants to be left alone with his mom's necklace to play with his toy cars! What a sweet boy!
I love Molly ❤ This is definitely the most energy I’ve ever seen her have. She’s so precious.
This was such fun deconstruction of the slasher genre as a whole. I cannot wait to watch it again!!
Gave me “Behind the Mask: Rise of Leslie Vernon” vibes but played straight
I saw Zoran describe it as 'Horror ASMR', and after having seen the film myself, it's a very apt description. It's almost weird in how soothing parts of this film can be. And then they crank it hard in the other direction, and all that slowness from earlier helps ratchet up the effect. Wonderful film. I don't know if I'd rewatch as much as something like The Dead Zone or House of Dracula, but I will definitely rewatch it at some point.
A couple ladies walked out of my theater after the yoga kill. I was dying 🤣
That one took me by surprise.
Even though I didn't, I would have walked out at how little that girl wanted to survive apparently XD. No running or a struggle. Like my friend whispers to me "I guess she's stuck up there", and then it zooms out to show the cliff when he kicks her body down.....
"She so could have rolled down that hill" LMAO, it was so manageable XD
@krismarshall3803 it was definitely the freeze response, but yeah, I'd much rather take my chances tumbling down a cliff side than whatever a hulking dude in an antique firefighter suit has planned for me.
Listening to how excited James and Chelsea were the whole time talking about this episode was so awesome. I really loved the movie, and Chelsea talking about how much she laughed during the Yoga kill made me feel validated for also laughing during it.
I can’t wait to see this movie again after all the things you brought up about. This episode was really fun to listen to.
For anyone wondering: the tool that's used to kill the walkman guy is a drawknife (among other things used to debark logs). I really like how the movie uses lesser known forestry tools, axes and chainsaws are such a cliche nowadays. I imagine that's what it felt like to see a chainsaw used as a weapon in the 70s. When the killer started the log-splitter I thought it was a sawmill, that would've been absolutely grotesque (in a good way)
There were multiple kills in the movie where I thought "That's the Golden Chainsaw". This movie had so many memorable kills.
I saw this in a theater and I loved the cinematography, sound design, gore, and the nods to other horror movies. Some scenes did drag and felt a bit like padding. The last monologue scene seemed a bit "Oh we need to explain more to the audience" but it was acted well. Not to mention there were at least 3 times I literally exclaimed "Holy shit!" "What the actual fuck?!" in this very quiet theater. I laughed a lot and no one else in the audience gave much reactions. I had fun anyway.
Yeah I think it would have been fine if it was shorter. I like the concept of it and the ending “non-scare” was really effective. I was like 80% sure that he wouldn’t jump out at her, but the 20% chance he would kept me on the edge of my seat.
@@thomasffrench3639 Like I understand the point is the walking scenes are meant to be "boring" but there were a couple in particular that really, really dragged on, particularly some still shots of just nature (which were admittedly very nice still).
@@pusheenqueen519I’m referring to the monologue specifically. I didn’t find the rest of the film boring at all, it was really engaging due to the excellent cinematography and great sound design along with a bunch of stuff happening either in the foreground or background.
This is what people have asked for, for YEARS. Then NOBODY goes out to support it. That’s some bullshit man. I really liked this movie.
It had IFCs biggest opening ever! It made decent money.
@@pphillips4586I though that was Late Night with the Devil
@@thomasffrench3639 Late Night made more money overall but Violent Nature had the bigger opening.
i had to drive 45 minutes to see it in theaters but wow it was worth it. so much that i actually want twice. i absolutely loved everything about this, the "hey wanna check out this cool spider" to get brodie (stoner lesbian) in the house had me fucking crying laughing both times
After hearing this discussion, it's made me rephrase my own thoughts on the movie. It may have just been when I saw it late at night after work but I just wasn't putting the pieces together of the slowness of it all but I was chuckling each time the next long walk sequence would happen. Really thoughtful video and I appreciate hearing your takes :)
When Chelsea says "He starts walking" I just imagined Stone Cold Steve Austin walking and JR shouting "He's walkin', he's talkin'"
I’m glad you guys found it funny cuz I was laughing a LOT in the theater lol
Saw this in theaters. One of my favorites of the year so far. Extremely immersive and interesting.
This movie was WELL WORTH THE WAIT, loved it so much!
ALSO, Chelsea's Home for Wayward Slashers would make a GREAT animated series!
Watched it this morning, and feel in love with this film. I unironically love the slow pace and found Johnny walking around really interesting. But to be fair its one of those films that feels tailored to my tastes, just happy this films exists.
I'm so happy ya'll also thought it was particularly funny! Such a great sense of humor from the filmmakers and actors, you can tell they were really well versed in horror expectations and how to subvert them in funny and cruel ways.
In A Violent Nature: Ranger Danger would be an interest prequel to watch. It would be interesting if they elaborated on the cover-up where certain people know it is Johnny and those people are gaslighting others into thinking the attacks are from a wild animal. Of course the best would be an origin story of In A Violent Nature: Lumberjack Massacre lol. Keep up the good work y'all.
The Ranger kill has been living in my head rent free. He paralyzed that guy and made him watch himself slowly getting chopped apart. I thought he was gunna split him up the middle like Terrifier. The only "complaint" I have is I think the killer's mask looks dumb as hell, but the story for it still works
@@HauntedHeme13 yeah same. That kill really stuck with me. Yoga Kill was fun, but it was a little disappointing if I’m being honest because of how hyped up it was. It’s an objectively cool kill, I just had expectations too high.
Honestly I thought the mask was cool asf
For me that’s the Yoga kill! And I agree with the silly mask lol, it reminded me of something from SpongeBob but I still loved it
@@thomasffrench3639100% my experience too man! I had heard soooo much about the yoga kill that I guess I expected more lol. I saw someone say “move over Terrifier fans”… BUT I heard absolutely nothing about the ranger wood splitter kill and him being paralyzed with his eyes darting around…. Easily most disturbing kill of the movie for me!
Yoga Kill definitely was all I heard people talk about so the Ranger one really surprised me😂
Ahhhh! This movie was filmed in my town! So amazing to see this movie getting as much love as it has been especially from you guys along with Stephen King!❤️
Finally saw this thanks to this podcast. I LOVE THIS MOVIE! Yall were right about how the sound works. That cassette player made me feel so uneasy the longer it went. The Kills....each one was unique! Thanks again guys!
There isn’t a shudder release date but Amazon prime is letting people pre order with a release date of June 27th 9pm PDT
I love when I can see two frames from a trailer and just KNOW the movie was filmed in Canada 😂 Was a little surprised to hear it was in Ontario and not BC though! Can't wait to watch this one!
i'm not into super heavy gore movies so i am glad i listened to you guys talk about it, and man it's always such a treat to hear you guys talk about movies :) i always look forward to new podcast episodes!
This movie reminded me so much of The Zone of Interest.
The most mindblowing part of this movie is how every single death was foreshadowed and had symbolism to it. Like, for example, Troy wasn't the friendliest and called his friends a lot of names; he died by literal sticks and stones.
First thing I thought of after finishing this film was how I FINALLY get to watch this podcast, one of my favorite things about catching up on horror releases I missed!
Kind of wondering with the monologue at the end and all the talk of animals they meant this as some kind of twisted take on a nature documentary where we’re just following the great northern slasher villain as he stalks his prey through the woods, sans Attenborough narration.
Really enjoyed this movie
I'm so glad I went out and saw this before the pod dropped cause those kills truly were something else. I've got complicated feelings about the thing as a whole but It's so uniquely and conceptually cool I have no choice but to love it
i saw this at sundance and ever since THAT ONE KILL scene happened i was so excited for u guys to see it and now there's a whole episode on the movie so the wait paid off
Hey you’re looking at the 4th best Friday the 13th movie!
James and Chelsea: * talks about the most bloody s**t ever *
Molly: 🐶
The way that my ears perked up when y'all mentioned Mano and Betsy- all of my entertainment worlds are colliding!
A lot of it is more explainable then you might realize. When he goes in the lake he isn't swimming the whole length, it's most likely a comp shot, as soon as he is fully submerged in the water they just cut to the next shot right there. His head is above water behind the pier when he emerges, he's merely waiting behind it. The rock one is even more rudimentary. If it wasn't CGI it could very easily be a comp shot with the a fake big rock masking his face with what they explode around it in a different shot. A more fun solution could be it's hollow inside the rock and it's filled with jelly and stuff and it's essentially a cream pie.
I also cannot get the "the black fly song" out of my head. I was an usher at my local theater when this movie came out and it is one of the only credit songs I can remember that I never got sick of hearing.
James: "Steve HOLT!"
Me: "Oh how you forget so slowly. It's PAUL HOLT!"
Ginny says Paul like 50 times in that movie how can you forget his name? Ginny’s the GOAT and they forgot her boyfriend’s name. SMH
Edit: it could be a reference to Arrested Development.
@@thomasffrench3639 Oh. Would make sense :O
It's kind of amazing how I can listen to these podcasts multiple times when I'm not even a horror fan.
YOU ARE AMAZING DEAD MEAT PEOPLE 😍🤩🤩😍
Congratulations on all the success. Y'all deserve it. Big fan!
Love the podcast. It took me a couple years of watching the channel before I watched the podcast. Its embarrassing. Deadmeat podcast is the best❤
45:00 I absolutely lost my shit when Johnny just yeets Aaron's headless body into the glass case. I had to pause it because I was laughing so hard lol.
I just watched the movie and loved it. It is so wonderful to see a Canadian indie film on a seriously thin budget be so great. I got to the yoga scene and was like “this is going to win best kill and the next Horror Awards”. I’m so glad you have been championing this film because it definitely got me to watch it.
Just watched this at home and I absolutely loved it too! I'm glad I read a little bit on Wikipedia that the film was shot like a nature documentary because I went in respecting the pace and not wondering why it was so quote unquote boring between the kills.
I’m so happy that you two loved this movie too. I know a lot of people won’t agree or call me crazy, but for me, personally, this is in my top 3 favorite movies of the year.
Most definitely dedicated to a niche audience. But I AM THAT NICHE AUDIENCE. Been waiting for a slasher like this for years and it delivered on all fronts. Didn’t get to see it in theaters because the closest location was hours away, but I had the privilege of watching this by myself in front of a massive 80 inch screen. I strapped myself in because I was so excited.
Seriously love everything about this film and I cannot wait for the sequel. Fingers crossed to them releasing to more theaters. I truly think Terrifier 3 helped pave the way for more amazing movies to finally get their big screen experience.
Loved this film. But now hearing yalls takes I love it even more
i know this was posted a few months ago but i just watched and really loved the naturalist aspect of this film. the change of point of view in a situation we so clearly know of a slasher isn't just a new insight, but i found that for the first time it externalizes the panic of any character/victim and the gore becomes just a step in the storyline that doesn't try for you to empathize more than the inevitable. in the end, when the storyline (quest to find the necklace) is over, we finally get to see a reaction/consequence to the occured, and even then it's still contained and more sensorial. This movie takes us out of our 'humanness' to watch a more "natural" 'animal' who is inherently violent and doesn't have our destructive concept of death to those around it. the violence we (humans) translated to language conventionally - (i think it's intentional the one talkative "cancellable" guy is the first killed from the group by cutting through his mouth when the killer doesn't speak). Even the killer in his most 'animal' state, kills for a material thing he humanly saves from his mother, not because he needs to. The secondary story and conversations of the characters became so not relevant to the landscapes and (pun intended) violent nature of the movie, that it is almost an analysis of animal-human brain and mass as it also self-conscious of it being a movie slasher.
watched it last night and absolutely loved it, i was fully invested with this movie.
Amazing timing since i found out I'm working from home today ☺️
21:49 Those ribbons are usually left by hunters to either mark the trail to their hunting blinds/stands or, in this case, their traps.
Saw this the day it came out by myself in a theater that was just me. It was so calming funny enough. I walked out feeling like I just watched a nature documentary lol. Really enjoyed that interesting viewing experience.
The pink ribbons are for the guy putting the traps in the woods to find the trap once he steps off trail. Its like a more permanent popcorn trail for the character.
Haven't been able to stop watching this film. It's amazing.
The Void! One of my favorite horror movies.
The long tracks in the woods just following Johnny, honestly forgot I was watching a horror and got super relaxed 😅
I work at the movies and I saw this in a theater by myself. It was great. Definitely recommend to see it in a theater.
I did watch it at home but I used headphones (glad I did). There were a few bits I laughed at (the completely stoic ranger kill and the axe to the guy's face near the end) and i wasn't sure if i was supposed to so I'm glad that other people did as well!
you know its a good day when dead meat post's
I like how this movie breaks the illusion that Killers just teleport. They are just luckily not seen or they walk under an entire lake lol
I was excited for this movie but kinda worried it was gonna be another skinamarink (which I have mixed feelings about) but I was so amazed when I walked out of the theater. The beautiful ambiance, the bits of lore sprinkled in and of course the kills it was awesome. I wished I went to watch a second time.
I need this to be streaming already. Can’t fully listen until I’ve seen it but I am freaking stoked to hopefully be able to see it this weekend (question mark?).
In my opinion I thought that this was a pretty entertaining movie. I wasn’t too bored nor was I constantly checking my phone even though I was watching this at the comfort of my home. Granted, I knew what I was going into after I watched this video. The kills are for sure the main highlight though, they are crazy brutal and I think James is gonna have one hell of a time kill counting this movie and I absolutely can’t wait for it.
Yeah I don’t get why they say it’s boring. It’s definitely more entertaining than stuff like Pieces, Prom Night, or Friday the 13th part 5
I literally went to my small local theater at one of the last showings if this movie at midnight specifically to be ready for this podcast episode ❤
I really did like the movie, even though I also don't love slashers/gore. Thank you for explaining why this movie is so cool and all the hard work your team does!! ❤❤❤
50:31 In the theater I literally said “this is a MK fatality!” 😝
I thought it would be like a POV movie too. Glad to hear it isn't and I'm excited to check it out!
Also, f you want a POV killer movie, check out Manic (with Elijah Wood)
Make sure to qualify remake. You don’t want people checking out the original film on accident. If you know what you are getting into with the first movie, then great, but the original is pretty disturbing
@thomasffrench3639 that's why I specified with Elijah Wood but good callout!
@@Zolthuxfair enough. I love the original Maniac, and I want to see the remake, but the original was very disturbing. Excellent, but disturbing.
I’m SO excited to listen, this is my favorite movie of the year, legitimately. I squealed and laughed throughout the whole thing, I had SO much fun.
Now I’m excited on rewatching the movie with the knowledge of how yall talk about it
50:23 When Johnny first got her I thought, "ok good kill," but he just kept GOING! My mouth was open the rest of the scene. Great kill, I knew it would make it on the next Dead Meat Awards 😂
My biggest problem with this movie was also one that I had with Late Night With the Devil. It's that they have a really unique concept, but then don't keep it up the whole way through. Like for LNWTD it was marketed as being found footage of a broadcast from the 70s, but then there's so much in the film that breaks with that convention. And then in this one, the concept of following from the killer's POV just completely vanishes in the last 10-15 minutes of the movie. I don't know, I just ended up being let down by both movies because I wanted them to fully follow through with how they were sold. And to see how the movies could be within the restrictive constraints of their concepts.
Totally agree.
I thought the change in perspective at the end of this movie was a stroke of genius. Realistically from what we knew of Johnny it was unrealistic that he could catch up with her, especially after they had been driving down the road for five minutes, but our understanding of horror movie tropes is so ingrained that we couldn't give them up. Johnny can't teleport, he can't psychically determine where the characters will be, and he can't drive. We got to experience the fear she might have for the rest of her life despite it not being rational.
I wish I could relive watching the end of this movie again not knowing if Johnny will just show up or not.
The tracking shots reminded me of the shots at the end of Holloween when we had no idea where Michael Myers was anymore, or the ambiguity of the ending of The Thing. I like how open everything felt.
@@jamestully156the ending showing her ptsd felt like a definite homage to the ending of Texas Chainsaw Massacre.
For LNWTD, I feel like it's not quite "this is found footage" as it is "this is what someone in-universe viewing the footage would see". SPOILERS BELOW
The only things that break from the found-footage angle, if I recall correctly, are the hypnosis scene and the ending segment. The former works with the angle that hypnosis works on anyone who sees it, even through TV. To me, the latter still makes sense since at that point the demon has directly taken control over the broadcast; what is seen is no longer just something captured on film by a camera, but something supernaturally manipulated by the demon.
The slowed down music coming from Ehren's walkman, as the battery is dying is inventive AF. And yeah, it's because the battery is dying (walkman cassette players slow down when that happens). Pretty sure it was to give the impression that it took Johnny a very long time to drag him to the ranger station (plus, great way to make the scene even more twisted). I highly recommend getting blazed for this movie.
Love that this just hit shudder! Perfect timing for the podcast release
6:36 omg i just spent the day binge watching schmigadoon and went to watch in a violent nature after - this podcast is for me!!
literally JUST got home from watching this, as a movie i thought it was bad but as a horror movie i really enjoyed it. I was pleasantly surprised with the gore in this movie and johnny as a killer.
I thought at the ending that maybe they were driving towards Johnny bc i didnt know like where outve the woods she came from when she found the car-so in my head at the end i was like-“oh shit how far have they driven-are they moving away from Johnny or closer to him” bc of how expansive the woods seem in the film-either way i love this movie and i didnt even consider the thematic ways in which characters died so thank you for pointing this out in the podcast!
Kind of funny too that the guy with the number 1 hat is the first kill of the movie as well.
Watched a lot of pre rec and this is most DEFINITELY taking from the game. I'm not trying to belittle the filmmakers, this is apples and oranges, through the looking glass whatever, game and movie imo are great
I've been so torn over whether I would enjoy this film. I was really looking forward to your podcast so I could get a good idea of the film. I'm so glad I watched this!! Based on your commentary this sounds like a film I would appreciate.
When it comes to appreciating genre material I find the biggest difference between myself and James & Chelsea is with regard to run-time. They'll say 'man, I'd love this a lot more if only it were 80 minutes!' whereas I tend to think 'man, if only this were two hours!' so I can't tell you how happy I was to hear they both loved IAVN. I get why those prolonged walking sequences might grate on folks' nerves, but I loved every bit of it because it finally answers the question of how slashers can ever kill anyone when they're walking and everyone else is running their asses off. Lastly, I'm glad I'm not the only one that cackled like a lunatic when Yoga Girl's corpse only made it halfway down that slope. Excellent work as always!
Honestly, I would love more shorter slashers. More films need something like the opening of Friday remake, and that would not work for a 90 minute movie.