So the only way to access any function like a/c, etc.. is using the screen, yet you are not allowed to use it. Well done Tesla. This update is evevn more dangrous. I dont think I will use autopilot anymore
I drove it 600 miles after I installed it, after I use it for a little bit it didn’t bother me that much when you first engage it that’s when you get most of your attention from the car
@@sullfolife It's a little better now but it's still very strict - you need to be looking at the road constantly and it asks you to nudge all the time. Nothing like how it was before... 😭
I’ve noticed that you can’t activate autopilot on smaller roads as frequently as I could before - and often it disengages very easily on smaller (non highway roads) - which sucks because I used to use it on almost all roads 😅
Thanks for the video. I'm not liking this new update. So in this video, how many strikes did you get? Did you get one eat time it disengaged? How many audible alerts before it disengages? Previously it was on the 3rd one, but I've gotten like 4 or 5 with this new one without it disengaging or giving me a strike.
Thanks for watching! I didn't get any strikes because I kept disengaging (either unintentionally, or intentionally) before I let 3 "please pay attention to the road" warnings come up. The previous two strikes I received (before this video) was from having two of those and then on the 3rd time, it just showed the red steering wheel that it's disabling.. I'm not 100% sure what the rules are. Have you gotten any strikes yet?
@@europeinatesla no strikes yet. I think getting 5 audible warnings is the limit before they strike you. I also believe if you pull over and put it into park, then restart your drive, it will reset. Following the above assumptions, I haven't gotten any strikes.
Hi - to change lanes, you need either Enhanced Autopilot or FSD. In the EU, you need to initiate the change by selecting the indicator, and then nudging the wheel... However, in the US, it will just start indicating and changing lanes by itself without any intervention.
Wow that's harsh! The first time was that I wasn't aware how sensitive it was - so I let it warn me twice then it just disengaged, the second time, I tried to use it on the highway and kept looking at the screen and it suddenly disengaged too and struck me out. I have noticed that it's become less stringent now - I'm not sure if it's due to the minor updates they've released or if it's just learning from behaviour. Has this been your experience too?
Has this been fixed yet, or is it still as punitive? Dont wanna buy a car where I can’t use the infotainment or check my phone for an email while using autopilot
Love your channel! I own a Model 3 2024 and my wife drives a Toyota Corolla since 2022. I am afraid to say this but Toyota's autopilot is way better than Tesla's. It is actually flawless and serves its purpose. As long as your hands are in the wheel, it keeps the car within the lane, adapts the speed to the road conditions (other cars, tight curves), and does not disengage if you look elsewhere nor due to weather conditions (sun and/or fog). I love Tesla but autopilot is really annoying.
Yes, I can imagine - the Tesla AP used to be like this but with the new update, it has become really annoying. I seriously hope they fix it with future updates. Thank you so much for your support!
You have to drive, troubleshoot a shit computer interface while forced to take your eyes off the road. IT'S INSANELY DANGEROUS. Added bonus, if you were stupid enough to get Tesla insurance. It is constantly docking you to raise your rates.
At 04:50, you KNEW there was a car coming in the blind spot and you still used the indicator. Do you know how dangerous that is for the overtaking car? NEVER and I mean *****NEVER***** indicate before the car currently overtaking has FINISHED overtaking you. You are creating dangerous situations in which the overtaking car thinks that you're actually pulling out to the left and thus you cause them to hit the BRAKES in case you actually pull to the left, in turn causing a crash for a possible car closely following THAT car. NEVER indicate until it's actually FREE to do so!!!!!!!!!! This is basic driving school knowledge... First look in mirror, second look with your head, thirdly indicate. Not before. This also gives you the correct danger-reducing habits.
Trash software. Completely unhinged that this is allowed to exist on the road with the rest of us that aren’t complete morons that have bought into Elon’s lies.
It actually worked great until the government made Tesla and Elon do this. They didn't want to. The goal is not perfection. The goal should be to reduce driver fatigue and make the driver population safer overall. Distracted or fatigued drivers using autopilot > Distracted or fatigued drivers without autopilot and it isnt even close. Its just going to make people not use it and be distracted anyway. Ridiculous. Witchhunt against Tesla.
So the only way to access any function like a/c, etc.. is using the screen, yet you are not allowed to use it. Well done Tesla.
This update is evevn more dangrous. I dont think I will use autopilot anymore
Technically you can do it without looking (with a lot of practice), or you can use the voice control...
no, that's on every regulator, not Tesla. Tesla was forced to do it.
Car flashes up a message, you glance to read it... oh wait..
😂😅
PC LOAD LETTER? WTF IS THAT
@@europeinatesla and Im serious, engage AP " HOLD THE WHEEL" - *but i am?*
The worst is when it says “please hold the steering” then you hold it and then it disengaged because your apparently applied too much torque 😅😂
@@europeinatesla - yes i get that all the time.
Yep installed this before my road trip for Christmas couldn't ever check my navigation while driving looking at the map was an instant strike
sigh - I really hope they fix it soon...
I drove it 600 miles after I installed it, after I use it for a little bit it didn’t bother me that much when you first engage it that’s when you get most of your attention from the car
@@europeinatesla Any updates on that ?
@@sullfolife It's a little better now but it's still very strict - you need to be looking at the road constantly and it asks you to nudge all the time. Nothing like how it was before... 😭
@@europeinatesla even if you put a sticker on the camera ??
Can you guys show how to use the Fm Radio and how to change the Radio stations while driving, cuz I can't drive whitout earing music:) ? Tnx.
I just drove down from the bay area to Palm Springs. It did quite well.
Can you cover the cabin camera and try to use it.
I tested that in the video
it did not automatically disengage at 4:10, you did by taking over the wheel
Yes but it feels like the threshold has decreased dramatically - you don’t need to yank very hard for it to disengage
slurp slurp slurp
Is this still a thing? Ive intentionally denied this update because of how bad Ive been hearing it is. Im still on previous firmware.
I’ve noticed that you can’t activate autopilot on smaller roads as frequently as I could before - and often it disengages very easily on smaller (non highway roads) - which sucks because I used to use it on almost all roads 😅
Thanks for the video. I'm not liking this new update.
So in this video, how many strikes did you get? Did you get one eat time it disengaged?
How many audible alerts before it disengages? Previously it was on the 3rd one, but I've gotten like 4 or 5 with this new one without it disengaging or giving me a strike.
Thanks for watching!
I didn't get any strikes because I kept disengaging (either unintentionally, or intentionally) before I let 3 "please pay attention to the road" warnings come up.
The previous two strikes I received (before this video) was from having two of those and then on the 3rd time, it just showed the red steering wheel that it's disabling.. I'm not 100% sure what the rules are.
Have you gotten any strikes yet?
@@europeinatesla no strikes yet. I think getting 5 audible warnings is the limit before they strike you. I also believe if you pull over and put it into park, then restart your drive, it will reset.
Following the above assumptions, I haven't gotten any strikes.
Did this update and strike/ban system also happen in the US
This was due to the US recall so yes… but we are feeling the effects of it in the EU, unfortunately 😅
Was forced 1-7-24. It sucks
Yeah this update is really annoying, hopefully something can change in the future.
Checking your speed too much = lane keep disabled for a week. Lame.
Watching this now I'm much more happy with my 2019 M3 (camera covered and all working perfectly)
Car beeps and says "Pay attention to road".......... so you look away to read the 'urgent message' ............ idiotic.
😂😂
Does it auto lane change after selecting the indicator direction on base autopilot or do you need "enhanced" or fsd or something for it to do that
Hi - to change lanes, you need either Enhanced Autopilot or FSD. In the EU, you need to initiate the change by selecting the indicator, and then nudging the wheel... However, in the US, it will just start indicating and changing lanes by itself without any intervention.
@@europeinatesla ah ok. ty
so putting a sticker on the cabin camera is the solution so it goes back to normal ?
Apparently…
However, the more you use it, it does seem to loosen up as you drive you get less proms
Yeah I have noticed it hasn’t been as stringent - doesn’t help that I got 2 strikes on the first day and recently another strike though 😅
@@europeinatesla I got one when I answer the phone from the screen that shouldn’t be like that
@@europeinatesla so what did you do to get the two strikes?
Wow that's harsh!
The first time was that I wasn't aware how sensitive it was - so I let it warn me twice then it just disengaged, the second time, I tried to use it on the highway and kept looking at the screen and it suddenly disengaged too and struck me out.
I have noticed that it's become less stringent now - I'm not sure if it's due to the minor updates they've released or if it's just learning from behaviour. Has this been your experience too?
What about simple Adaptive Cruise Control? Is it requiring the same?
No, TAC doesn't track - so you can't get striked out on that. But you do need to steer the wheel yourself :P
Has this been fixed yet, or is it still as punitive? Dont wanna buy a car where I can’t use the infotainment or check my phone for an email while using autopilot
Not fixed, it’s definitely still very sensitive and punitive. AP is ruined tbh 😭
Love your channel!
I own a Model 3 2024 and my wife drives a Toyota Corolla since 2022. I am afraid to say this but Toyota's autopilot is way better than Tesla's. It is actually flawless and serves its purpose. As long as your hands are in the wheel, it keeps the car within the lane, adapts the speed to the road conditions (other cars, tight curves), and does not disengage if you look elsewhere nor due to weather conditions (sun and/or fog). I love Tesla but autopilot is really annoying.
Yes, I can imagine - the Tesla AP used to be like this but with the new update, it has become really annoying. I seriously hope they fix it with future updates.
Thank you so much for your support!
They better remove this.
This is why I'm not going to use autopilot. If it was an automatic pilot, I'd use it. But it's not. You still have to do 90% of the work constantly.
You have to drive, troubleshoot a shit computer interface while forced to take your eyes off the road. IT'S INSANELY DANGEROUS.
Added bonus, if you were stupid enough to get Tesla insurance. It is constantly docking you to raise your rates.
@@NormAppletonI'm on Qover, which has a partnership with Tesla - I don't think there's direct Tesla insurance in Portugal
So this update is more dangerous now got it.
Thx government for screwing auto pilot
At 04:50, you KNEW there was a car coming in the blind spot and you still used the indicator. Do you know how dangerous that is for the overtaking car? NEVER and I mean *****NEVER***** indicate before the car currently overtaking has FINISHED overtaking you.
You are creating dangerous situations in which the overtaking car thinks that you're actually pulling out to the left and thus you cause them to hit the BRAKES in case you actually pull to the left, in turn causing a crash for a possible car closely following THAT car.
NEVER indicate until it's actually FREE to do so!!!!!!!!!! This is basic driving school knowledge...
First look in mirror, second look with your head, thirdly indicate. Not before.
This also gives you the correct danger-reducing habits.
Well they made it worse now.
sounds miserable and dangerous and stressful to use!
Trash software. Completely unhinged that this is allowed to exist on the road with the rest of us that aren’t complete morons that have bought into Elon’s lies.
I'm piszed lol
It actually worked great until the government made Tesla and Elon do this. They didn't want to. The goal is not perfection. The goal should be to reduce driver fatigue and make the driver population safer overall. Distracted or fatigued drivers using autopilot > Distracted or fatigued drivers without autopilot and it isnt even close. Its just going to make people not use it and be distracted anyway. Ridiculous. Witchhunt against Tesla.