Panasonic Ending In-House TV Production, But Will Still Sell OLED TVs in 2022
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- Опубліковано 5 лип 2024
- Panasonic confirms that it will stop making TVs in-house at the end of fiscal year 2021, but in a statement in response to our questions, Panasonic said that the company will still continue its OLED TV business in 2022, with the manufacturing of the televisions outsourced to an external company.
Original news story: www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php...
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panasonic need to work on the marketing of their tvs. they provide the best picture quality and dont sell that many tvs? same thing happend with their plasmas.
@Patrick Swayze Panasonic better than LG nearly on par with Sony.
@@RobertK1993 totally agree with you!
They are doing the same thing to Technics ... great products with very few retail channels.
You just keep working on your capital letters at the start of sentences and especially names and everything else will be fine.
I own two Plasmas and one Oled tv from Panasonic (the VT60 is still my favorite). I love the picture quality, but I have to admit the Remote is pretty dated as well as the menus of the display. We had to wait ages to have Disney + incorporated too.
If I did not know anyrhing about televisions I would easily get a cheaper dispaly from LG and I think it is exactly what people do, chosing between Sony or LG.
Sad they don't sell them in the US anymore. Panasonic TVs were the ones I would buy back in the day.
Sony Trintron was also popular back then.
I would have bought one if they sold in the U.S. Hell if this outside player sells them in the U.S. next year I might by it if it's as good as this years model.
I am a big fan and owner of Pana TVs since Plasma. I hope that Future will tell that I am wrong, but I am afraid, this is the first step for Panasonic into either the death of Panasonic TVs or just badge engineering.
My last hope is, that they will badge engineer just the basic models, just to make profit and continue to put a lot of effort into their Top models. I am one of the small group of customers that doesn’t look to the cheapest price and is willing to pay more money for superior quality.
Totally agree with you and hope we are both right Pana will keep making the top-tier models in-house.
We had Panasonic Plasmas for many years and have had a GZ 2000 for around 2 years. Still the best for picture quality and the overall viewing experience. Combined with a Panasonic UB820 4K Blu ray player, I think we have the best of all worlds!
Still mourning the loss of Pioneer.
For real right. Was far a bigger shock and far more upsetting than when Panasonic pulled out of the plasma display biz. That and the unquestionable fact that they were the better build and better display and image quality overall.
What was sad about Panasonic pulling out of the plasma R&D and manufacturing was it signaled the end of the technology as a whole - which was incredibly sad when you think of how shit the early generations of OLED were regardless of what the delusional naysayers would try to tell you. Even today OLED sample and hold is inferior in many a way.
I'm looking forward to seeing Samsung and their upcoming True RGB OLED panels though.
@@stugtodd2778 Yeah, Panasonic basically spent the next 4 years trying to get their plasma where Pioneer was before the exited and then gone. I still remember the first time seeing a Kuro at this girl's house and her father was a Doctor and they had a Kuro in the living room and I immediately was like "what is that thing?"
@@vlcthefish
Hehehe
Would of loved to have seen a pioneer oled... still rocking a 9g kuro in our family room and have a Panasonic HZ2000 in a 65 in my den.. only use it for blurays.. whereas the kuro is our everyday tv great all-rounder and prob best outlay in my life 13yrs old....the hz2000 is a phenomenal display but as delicate as hell whereas the kuro is built like a tank... tbh if Panasonic didn't do oled I'm not sure if I would have got into the tech... it has a very plasma cinematic picture to it... and still love my tweaked kuro but the Panasonic is in a different league for movie watching..
@@christophercharles3426 you Panasonic oled is better and more cinematic ?
Another great brand following the same sad route as Pioneer Kuro
Oh no, we are stuck with low grade garbage LG.
@@pioneer2321 LG G1 OLED loses to Sony Bravia A90J Master Series OLED TV and Panasonic OLED JZ 2000
But Pioneer really got ridiculous with its prices. In 2008, I auditioned a 50 inch 1080p Pioneer Elite Kuro at the home theater specialty store where I'd bought my first HDTV, in 2007. That 50" Pioneer was selling for $4,500. But barely 9 months later, the same store introduced a 50" 1080p Panasonic plasma, that seemed to offer nearly 95% of the picture quality that the Pioneer did, yet the Panny's price was just $1,500! Yup, that Panasonic cost only a THIRD of the asking price for Pioneer's same sized, same resolution, plasma!! And since, by that time, Panasonic had already gained a reputation for making quite reliable, very good looking plasmas, it certainly came as no shock to me, when shortly after Panasonic had started offering such a reasonably priced 1080p plasma, Pioneer suddenly announced it was ending the production and marketing of its very overpriced line of plasma TVs. Yes, I must admit the Pioneer Kuro was the best performing plasma (& best TV, PERIOD) that a video enthusiast could get, especially with its black level, that no other display of that time could match. But since most scenes in movies & TV shows weren't likely to reveal the Kuro's superiority over the Panasonic plasmas, only a relatively tiny group of the most demanding video & home theater enthusiasts, were ever going to think that Kuros were worth their high asking prices, once people got to see the very nice looking PQ that a Panasonic could offer at a fraction of the Kuro's price.
@@mrb0775 the prices were high because they were 10 years ahead everyone.
@@mrb0775 still got Pioneer KRP-500A as the second tv at home and being also an owner of 55” Panasonic JZ2000 I can confirm that after 11 years this Pioneer Kuro is still killing 90% of current tv’s on the market including some Oled’s with the colour quality/accuracy and black level. This was the reference tv at that time.
I watch this on my JZ 2000 55" and love it. The settings are ingenious and I'm so happy to not own a Google TV. You can fell it's made for you! Also the way you can customise it to your needs is superb. Please stay in the business Panasonic ❤️
My name is Peter as well and I love Panasonic TVs I just can’t get them here in the US I had one from Canada my friend wanted it so bad I gave it to him and I replaced it with the Sony A90J but I always have a special place for Panasonic.
Top stuff... I'm just glad I recently bought a 65inch hz2000 and not planning on letting it go..
@@christophercharles3426 enjoy it! :)
@@petermaz701 they make great TVs too. Are you happy with it?
@@Peter-pu7bo
I am.... Best picture I've seen in my life.. only use it for blurays 1080p and 4khdr.... the motion on it is better than my previous ez952 and can get super bright... motion seems as good as if not better than my tweaked kuro in the front room..
The prices were very high on the new jz series as new but would of had to go for a jz1500 as dont need the 2000 speakers.... only went for the hz2000 as the 1000s that were left increased in price to nearly 2k and I picked mine up for 2499 either 5yr warranty so a no brainer..
Bet you loving that jz2000
Hope Panasonic will stay in the tv business for a long time, and that this news does not augur the end of their tv’s segment.
Pretty sure it does. They'll only produce OLEDs now. It's just a matter of time before they'll stop with that as well.
@@thenonexistinghero
Hope not... it was Panasonic getting into oled that made me buy one.. which replaced one of my pioneer kuros.. got my hz2000 in a 65 for amazing price but that's where they max out.. if they make bigger sizes that would be great as looking to move in couple yrs and a 77 or 83 by them would be awesome.. but as a monitor too no speakers at all.. that would be even better ...like them and pioneer used to do with their high end or pro plasmas
PANASONIC STAY IN THE GAME ❤️
My Panasonic plasma was the best TV I ever had, considering the value, pq and longevity. I'm glad I waited until I could afford an OLED (CX) to upgrade. Skipped the led generation completely. I would gladly have been a Panasonic customer for life if they hadn't stopped selling in the US.
I still have a Panasonic TX-P50VT65B Plasma which is now 9 years old, I still use it as my main TV and the picture still rocks. Even people who have modern OLED’s comment on how good the picture is when watching Blu-ray content. The Panasonic plasma I had before that is now over 13 years old and still works perfectly, my son has that set.
After 9 years I’m considering moving to a new OLED possibly the new LZ2000 model when it’s released, I’ll probably relegate the plasma to another room, don’t think I can let it go.
@@rufdymond I totally understand :) I still miss plasma but couldn't be happier with oled in current state. And it's only getting better.
@@carlobighouse5434 wait for Panasonic QD OLED maybe next year.
I have an old Panasonic plasma that is still rocking’ along just fine at my neighbors now (after I got a Sony x900 in 2019) after well over a decade of use. It’s stilled used as a primary TV and looks great. Panasonic made a really nice product. It would be a shame to lose them entirely from the market however with their products on the whole, I’m afraid that’s the direction they’re trending.
This comment was literally right below mine 8n which I said the same thing. Had a dope 46x3 which lasted a decade of good service!
how is your electricity bill ;-)
Panasonic TV just last forever, CRT or Plasma. both lasted more than 10 years!!! LG start giving problem in 3.5 years :(
It's a shame really. Of course for PC gaming with the GPU shortage and high priced nothing beats a CRT monitor. 👍
@@classalpha I have an old CRT for more than 25 years, Plasma for more than 10, used daily.
I remember Panasonic being the best in the mid 2000s their quality is amazing but LG just has all the gaming stuff i want.
I still have the Panasonic VIERA that won TV of the year 2006
I’m still using a Panasonic plasma.
I remember when Pioneer had the best plasma and I think Panasonic bought them
I play quite often but don't really care about 120hz so Panasonic is good enough for gaming for me. My Panasonic have better looking game mode than any LG oled i've had, no issues with near black flashing, raised blacks and all the issues the LGs have had over the years either.
You’re forgetting about Pioneer I believe they won the flat-panel shootout three years in a row and I was reading an article from 2014 and they still considered the pioneer elite the best TV made Panasonic makes a fine TV but can’t bite in the US
I've got a 49" Panasonic HXX979
Heavy brushed Aluminum Stand
Full brushed Aluminum Body
The BEST Cable TV Picture❗
Not the best at Streaming (WLAN/WiFi) but I'm using Android TV Box anyway so i don't have to care.
Colors are Popping, Accurate and Natural
Smooth and sharp Pictures watching Soccer, F1 or Boxing
Menus etc. are so easy, quick and great to navigate! Waaaaay better than Sony!
Gaming is superb👌
4K HDR 60fps = NO PROBLEM IN SIGHT
Playing DOOM/MORTAL KOMBAT/TOMB RAIDER/FORZA
Playing on PS4 and XBOX Series X
Everything is awesome about this TV
😎👉Under 1000 € !!! 🤯
... Why aren't there any Reviews for this TV ???
Damn, very sad news for me. I bought Panasonic TVs because it was produced relatively locally for me and the quality was superb.
At least their R&D facility stays in Germany.
Id say Vincent's sweater has 400 backlights.
mini LED with FALD
Still rocking my Panasonic AX-800 from 2014
This is a shame. I’m still rocking a 2005 Quintrix CRT and a 2008 Viera Plasma TV, both made in the Czech Rupublic, both bought from new. I was waiting for one to break before I bought an OLED, but they’re so reliable that I still have them!
They make no fuss practically designed products.
Older products had superior build quality .
I bought a Panasonic 4K Blu ray player based on a video this channel posted about two years ago. I would like to buy a Panasonic TV but there's none available locally.
Really hope Panasonic are not going to outsource to TCL. I'm a huge fan of Panasonic and they are my go to for TV's... however I care more about security and allowing a state run/controlled company to produce a product that connects to home networks and gather data about you.... would be a massive mistake on Panasonic's part :/
amazing as usual vincent. thanks a lot for your precious work.
I still got my 61 inches HDTV Rear Projection Panasonic TV ! Bought in 2002 the TV has now 20 YEARS ! PT-61HX42 model. Best TV EVER !
I’am a owner of a Oled HZ1000 the quality is just amazing.But sometimes i may list myself with a tons of setting! When you find the balance it’s awesome especially with Dolby vision and HDR content. I use to streaming by Netflix and Amazon prime and Disney + ! I’am on the switch to get fiber internet in France and it comes 2 November I’am pretty exiting to get it and enjoy this panel in a good condition! IF Panasonic shift forever,a lot of tears are more to comes 😢✌️✌️ Thanks Vincent for this precious new 🙏🙏🙏
I really hope this makes it easier for panisoinic to come back to the USA
*Panasonic
Panasonic also wants to return to the United States, but it is afraid that it will lose money if the sales volume is small, because many Americans don't know that it is a good TV.
@@user-nt4uk9hd1q and also because Americans love Chinese cheap brands it's not easy for Panasonic to sell in this country
@@Soclean07 Chinese brands do not have a long lifespan, and the quality is not good, and the picture quality is not good enough.
I just bought a 65HZ980e, so I hope they stay in business for the duration of my warranty period :)
We did get panasonic plasmas in the states and I'm not surprised they have the best oleds. I still have my industrial and consumer panasomic plasma models.
Just got my huge 61" Panasonic TV today, insane price and air miles, yeah!! LOVE IT!!! £449 and free delivered, free bracket, too! Happy all the way!
Still have both my Panasonic tvs and sound systems, Purchased in 2004 and 2010. I was saddend when they stopped selling them in the US
Which one has the better picture quality? HZ2000 or JZ2000? I'm also thinking about JZ1500, because I don't need the sounbar under the TV :P
Still have my Panasonic ST50 plasma. Recently sold my VT50 but damn I miss good plasma panels.
So far, for me, between LG, Sony and Panasonic OLED TVs (calibrated), the latter were the only ones to compete with JVC D-ILA / Sony SXRD projectors in near black resolution and natural image, with projectors still holding the upper hand in many regards, but TVs got to the point they are good enough. Panasonic user interface is sadly the worst, but indeed there are a lot of settings and quite good calibration is possible. But anyway people tend to use Apple/Google/Roku/Fire TV, so UX is less of a problem. I hope Panasonic (and the others as well, FWIW) will continue to be in business.
Yes Panasonic makes great TVs however the UI and native apps on Panasonic TVs have never been their strong suit.
@@Astro49flyer Apps suck, UI menu wise is actually perfection. Easy to navigate, far more panel control for calibration and general customization as Vincent eluded to than anything else out there. The Sony equivalents by comparison are watered and dumbed down for mainstream consumers and offer far less panel setting customization. And yes I have owned both and still do in my home.
A projector having perfect blacks and natural image? Projectors holding the upper hand in many regards? Aside from screen size, it has always been to my understanding that projectors are inferior all across the board.
@@walmartpimp2 who said perfect blacks? But yes, more natural image, more colors, better color gradation, better motion, more 3D image, better near black resolution, image size, and no glass between me and the image. Less brightness, less contrast, more elevated blacks, lamp life, decalibration. Look at both, when properly set up. So far, for me, only Panasonic OLED was good enough to not fire up the projector for everything. YMMV.
@@zorqis You are right, you didn't say perfect blacks, so sorry for putting words in your mouth (so to speak). That being said, I never heard of anyone claiming a projector is superior to OLED. Aside from the emersion argument, and cost and screen size, every video, every article, every thing I ever heard about projectors is that they are subpar next to OLED. They have greyed out blacks, inferior colors, inferior contrast ratio, inferior peak brightens. Do you have any sources you can site that support your claims. It seems to me that you just want to feel like you have the best, but that simply isn't the case.
I have always seen them as a high end products especially in the 2000s to 2010 but when I came to looking for gaming TV's LG just delivered with the recent HDMI 2.1 OLEDS but back when it was HD over 4K with their sharpness they just blew everything else away. 2006 was a great year for them.
Any chance of you doing a sky glass setup? seems very dim in a dark room but can’t find a good balance for brightness
Love Panasonic always did. I even managed to get a Panasonic OLED TV from Canada here in the US but now even Canada doesn’t have them. Glad to hear the news that they’re still around and who knows maybe one day they may venture into the US again, that would be nice.
Panasonic also wants to return to the United States, but it is afraid that it will lose money if the sales volume is small, because many Americans don't know that it is a good TV.
it's certainly possible. After all SHARP TVs are returning to the US next year Spring.
I got one in Australia before they left here as well, thankfully before covid inflation as well
I'm watching this on Panasonic z1 plasma
Thanks for your support. If I am not wrong, you stated a decrease of black management in JZ2000 Tv.
Great video. I’m thinking of getting the Sony X950H tv but not sure about a soundbar for my apartment bedroom. Was thinking of the Sonos ARC or the Sony HTX8500. Would appreciate your opinion thank you.
I have the Arc and I highly 100% recommend. Sounds amazing
We all love good old altruistic Vincent 😍😁👌🏻
Have a Panasonic ST 60 which I am happy with never any fault !! Does anyone know anything about how the technical quality will be when Panasonic outsources production? Is there experience from other manufacturers?
Please come back to the USA 🇺🇸 I would buy a Panasonic over any tv brand available in the US. The thought the US having the best looking tv out of the box would be awesome. I spent $2349 for an LGC9 and $1498 for a Nakimachi 9.2.4 sound bar which is an amazing setup. Unfortunately now I’ve spent my lot and have no money for calibration. Would have been nice to get a Panasonic tv so that I would not have to worry about paying more after spending almost $4000 for my setup.
I was SO planning to get the JZ2000, since I waited a year because HZ2000 didn’t have hdmi 2.1. But after watching your reviews and learning that it’s peak brightness is the same as last year and its also using the older OLED panel & A90J is ahead of it, I decided to wait and see. Was a let down to be honest.
If you are a true video/cinema enthusiast, especially HDR content. Get yourself that JZ2000 and forget all that other noise. Panny OLEDs especially these reference pro flagships are the best 65 inch money can buy.
It would be rather a VERY GOOD argument to get that Panasonic.. Because next year they are no real Panasonic TVs anymore.. But Philips Oleds with a Panasonic label.. It is almost impossible that quality will be the same..
@@WiLDCATZ I am sure they are great and better than what I am using. But given their price, short comings, competition, and the fact that we are by the end of 2021, it is not as convincing as I thought it would be.
@@TheRealJohnHooper I am a serious Panasonic fan, and in my experience I preferred their TVs and quality of their images among all my other ones even though there are good too (Samsung and Sony). But I have to admit, Panasonic’s strategic operation is not as focused as Sony and all I want is a flagship for five years or so, which I don’t regret buying. I think A90J nailed it in 2021, but will probably upgrade in 2022 to see which flagship OLED wins me over.
Having said that, I will also try to see in person the JZ2000 if it’s on display somewhere nearby based on your recommendation and Emil Serafino. If its fulfilling, I could get it on the December discounts. Thanks you!
@@AmroG. Every tv brand has Pros and Cons.. Since you care about HDMI 2.1, it seems that you care about gaming. And for that LGs are the best.. I am a huge Panasonic fan myself but I am honest, they almost dont care anymore. They could do sooo much more with their brand.. But I am tempted to get a Panasonic 2021 just because they are last real Panasonic TV models..
Vincent, are they still going to manufacture bluray & 4k players ?
I really like Panasonic's Standard TVs. Earlier In the year, I really wanted their JX940 to be a Full array TV so I don't have to keep wondering in circles with TV choices, because I'm not keen on buying an OLED TV. 😅 I guess I have no choice but to try an OLED at this rate. I mostly just like a good quality TV that really lasts.
They make pretty good TV sets sometimes, and always make the best Oled TVs.
I ordered the 75 inch JX940 for a good price this week
I have just bought a Panasonic OLED in the sale. Excellent price, excellent TV. I have always liked the Panasonic band.
I was excited to finally see a Panasonic OLED in person since I am visiting Europe from Canada, but I couldn't even find one in the electronics store show room here in the Netherlands...would like to see one before these in house models disappear.
i just hope the standard stays as high as in-house products. because i was thinking about buying a panasonic oled tv in 2022. they are the best on the market.
Seeing this video at the right moment. Looking to replace my trusted 2013 Plasma which has served me well but cannot cope with the streaming quality reductions that some services apply and also doesn't have several apps that I now need to acces svia the PlayStation. Guess it's time for a switch to OLED :)
I have a 14-year-old pioneer 150 elite has about 35,000 hours on it the only thing wrong one of the HDMI ports is bad other than that the picture still looks fantastic
And I forgot to mention my first venture into OLED I bought a LG about six months after having problems with it and LG has the worst customer service ever actually QVC pick the TV up and it’s refunding my money I guess Sony here I come
Hi
How are you
Which one do you recommend between this TV JX850 and BU8100? I am confused which one to buy
6 months later: panasonic exits tv business.
Won’t surprise me if they do, hardly anyone mentions Panasonic now ☹️ it’s all bloody LG this LG that.. I’ve got a SONY but would get a Panasonic next, not if the equality drops I won’t though.
I expect that too.
@@marksapollo . North American bias in media, we don’t have them here.
Tested Sony and Philips 2021 oled’s at home, they were good but Panasonic is playing in completely different league and is now hanging on my wall. They should rather outsorce sales and marketing than manufacturing to TCL.
@@robertt9342 Yeah, plus LG ship all their high end stuff to You Tube influencers who gulch over them, not pros like Vincent, but just random tech You Tubers, I've seen channels with maybe 2000 subs getting sent free LG TV's to 'review'.. I've personally always thought of LG as cheap?
the Best TV brand for almost a century now
It depends on what feature set do you need. But for movie consumption they're at the top.
It's so sad that a company that makes TVs as good as Panasonic does just can't seem to sell many of them. It's both due to people just not appreciating quality, as well as Panasonic's own lack of marketing, and selling their TVs. I just don't understand why Panasonic can't seem to understand this.
That’s them across the board, besides like Microwaves
Vincent I live in southwest Pennsylvania can you recommend someone to calibrate my C1?
Hello Vincent! I bought a Panasonic HZ1000 based on your tests and so far I’m pretty happy but I have noticed something strange.
When I watch a Netflix movies on my Apple TV 4K (2017 model) I get a lot of Judder on 23.976 Hz content and it is not very smooth on 60Hz content on UA-cam either, even with IFC on medium. The Apple TV is set on match framerate and dynamic range. If I try the TV integrated Netflix App, I have no judder event with the custom de-judder set to only 1-2 on IFC Custom. Do you think there is a problem on my TV ? Or is there a problème between the Apple TV and the Panasonic TV ?
Is your ATV up to date? I recall ATV having a longtime issue with certain framerates.
@@LDam-pf6lx everything hast the latest Firmware, TV and ATV. Also test a better HDMI cable and another HDMI port to ensure everything.
I think you are talking about the problem that the ATV can’t do true 24Hz but just the 23.976Hz standard and so if you have a true 24Hz source due to the ATV outputting 23.976Hz causing dropped frames.
Hi Vincent. I have an opportunity to buy either a JZ2000 or an HZ2000. Which should I buy? Not really much into gaming and already have an HZ2000. Which has the best PQ and motion handling?
Is there any news about Panasonic OLED TV’s being sold in the USA?
Is Panasonic outofthebox color accuracy a result of their in house production system or is it something independant of the manufacturing process?
We will have to see if the new factory will keep up the high standards of calibration like they are currently do.
My last 2 TVs were from Panasonic and I love them! The only downside is that there's no bigger screen size than 65 inch from Panasonic.
There was a 77" Panasonic OLED TV in 2017
Yes, that's the problem it was 5 years ago
Well you might be in luck, they’ve just announced a 77” OLED for 2022!
The background looks really nice. Vincent can you reveiw Optoma P2 short throw projector please. I love the picture quality for only £1999 now. A great laser projector for a decent price when compared to Samsung £6999 short throw projector.
Due to lack of informations I did only choose between A80J and C1. If they send like 10 TVs to different review channels they might score some sales.
I’m still using my 58” Panasonic 4K LED from 2014 in the States. It pains me to see that they have had trouble being profitable despite releasing amazing TVs.
Would love to get my hands on a Panasonic TV to use as a reference monitor. Sounds like that’s a possibility with this brand
What a shame. They do make the best picture oleds
Think they're too expensive (at least the flagship model) for what they offer in comparison to Sony/Lg
@@federicocatelli8785 Yeah they produce the absolute best picture quality with their impressive oled sets. But you're right on pricing, with their 65 flagship model costing more than a 77 inch from another brand, to me the choice would be quick.
Cough not as good as Sony Bravia OLED Master Series but good better than LG.
@@federicocatelli8785 Sony Bravia A90J black handling almost perfect Panasonic JZ 2000 quite close
@@RobertK1993 Panasonic is definitely better picture quality than sony
I still watch tv with Panasonic TH-PX600 PDP(manufactured in 2007)，impeccable quality!
Nice 😀
Will be good to know which is better out of the Panasonic and the Sony. Looking forward to the shootout.
And does anyone know if Vincent has mentioned getting the hisense 75u9dg for calibration and a review? Would like to know how bright it gets in its brightest mode compared to the oleds. It can apparently hit about 1200 nits in a 2% window and 435 nits full screen sustained. So that should be a lot brighter than oleds can go. And with the local dimming having effectively 2 million dimming zones it should be a contender at least for one of the best maybe.....depending on how good the processing is and other factors of course. It sounds promising anyway, but knowing hisense......who knows?.......maybe those advantages/measurements won't count for much in real content like the value electronics shootout shows. Just want to double check their results, as they said the screen wasn't very bright at all in real scenes compared to the best oleds....huh?....maybe they didn't have the brightest film maker mode on?......thanks.
In Singapore and Malaysia Panasonic Oleds are ALOT cheaper than LG and Sony. Absolute best bang for buck in this part of the world
Only top quality Japanese brand still best TV brand since mid 60s Sony.
All these companies stopping in house productions is so sad. This makes the market a lot more boring to me.
My main concern Vincent with Panasonic outsourcing it's OLED TV Production is will the quality still be at the same standards as they have now?
Sad news indeed.
Still hoping Panasonic brings a competitive lcd tv to rival Sony's x90j to the market. The hx800 was good but here in Malaysia the ips panel (if I'm not mistaken, European had va panels) and edge lit for me took it out of contention. From what I've heard, the factory here uses LG Display ips panels as part of the deal when they bought the oled panels.
I kinda wanna see Panasonic get into the Mini-LED and more mainstream market. They're like the epitome of high end small scale enthusiast products, but they need to make products that make more money while still retaining their high end heritage.
Any update on the Sony OLED TV’s getting UK catch up services like iPlayer, All4 etc? Thanks.
I’ve gave up and got an Apple TV 4K
not sure because most people try to avoid mainstream media nowadays
They will just do the same as Philips. Yes you will still see the brandname but panasonic will stop making everything. This is the first step.
It still surprises me that Panny hasn't, at the very least. Decided on 1 line to bring to the states. Give it a shot, see how it goes. There is definitely a market for them here, I do believe. I still hold out hope!! 😁.
Any news on a JZ1500 review Vincent?
nice bro hope u make video on nanocell tv for next gen
i wish brands like philips an panasonic had a bigger market in america in terms of their oleds, i always wanted a philips oled
I do suppose it makes sense. LG & Samsung have been very aggessive with their marketing. Sony a bit less so. Then below that some other brands. As for Panasonic... not much marketing to be found. At least, not where I live. So even though they make good TV's... they weren't really trying hard to sell them.
I love Panasonic in general a heavyweight in the market especially TVs. I recently bought a jx810e it seems great. I still believe in Panasonic heading to handheld video game console so many quality products. Any thoughts regarding my TV model? P stay in the market!
I have a Plasma Tv by Panasonic. I got a great deal on it as it was one of the final plasmas produced by Panasonic . Everyone told me not to buy it. Well, let me just say it is one of the best Tvs I have ever owned and it is still going strong 12 yrs later with a fantastic picture. Everyone that comes to my home compliments me on my Tv, and they're shocked over the picture quality for being a plasma and its age. I was just looking to get another and I was disappointed to see they don't make them anymore. I appreciate your video. Now I have a idea what Tv to look for, and hopefully I can find another Panasonic.
Panasonic and Pioneer made the best plasma’s. I still use a Pioneer Kuros.
Australia misses Panasonic OLED TV’s 😔
I swear if I get one more "It's ok not to know" Google advert, I'm gonna go mental.
The. Get an ad blocker or use brave on a iOS or Android device to auto block them. I do
Eu fico bem cético na questão do Burn-in e no consumo de energia das OLED's. LCD-LED pra mim é ainda favorável por questões de eficiência energética e “livre” do Burn-in
I wonder if the color accuracy will suffer because of the outsourcing. That would be shame
Is it chance for android in Panasonic's OLED in 2022?
It’s a moot point for me as we lost Panasonic TV’s here in Canada in 2019 but my last Panasonic tv purchase was the DX900 and it’s still one of the best tv’s that I’ve ever owned and would have been a total shame if they stopped production on tv’s altogether thankfully that’s not the case.
I also own a dx900 and it’s an amazing tv, has been calibrated and it regularly blows me away how good it is. I also own a gz1000 and as good as it is I still think the dx900 has a better image especially in HDR, I love them both and hopefully they last a very long time. It would have been great if Panasonic made a follow up to the dx900, obviously they didn’t sell enough of them to justify making a successor, cheap morons buying crappy lg, tcl, hisense TVs have ruined it for those of us who prefer a quality viewing experience. At least we still have Sony to fall back on.
VINCENT Can you talk about white LEDs degrading to blue causing the screen to turn blue? I seen a 65 inch Samsung after a few years has gone blue.
I always go for Panasonic tvs I have done for 20 years, it’s a shame they aren’t as prominent in stores anymore.
Why is TCL assumed? Wouldn't TPV be more likely?
I'm still rocking the very last oled they produced. It's not 4k, but it STILL has one of the best pictures I still see. The cinematic quality is second to none.
do you mean plasma, don't you ?
This is only applicable for European markets right? (EEMA, ECE, etc.)
This won't have an effect for factories in Mexico and Malaysia, correct?
I really hope you get the Philips for the shootout. There really doesn't seem to be much info about them out there and i always liked ambilight.
Ambilight is a gimmick. Get a real bias light.
@@BlownMacTruck what does lord Vincent think about ambilight? I'd more or less settled on the 936+ as my next TV.
@@timeandspace_3.142 I mean ultimately if you like it, fine. But you can get actual bias light performance with any other display at a fraction of the cost, and real bias lights have tangible benefits.
Basically an ambilight is a moot point when buying a display since you can put a bias light on any TV (and those are more accurate). Ambilight is more like a colored LED light strip - fun for five minutes, but isn’t really useful in the long run.
@@BlownMacTruck thanks mate, it was more for the b&w sound bar and thought the ambilight was a plus. Vincent's review of the 935+ seemed positive apart from the hdmi 2;1 which they've fixed
@@timeandspace_3.142 and you don't get 50hz judder on philips... I'm looking at 935+ when the price gets slashed more. Less than 2k euro for 65 inch with decent sound out of the box...
I wonder what you'd think about their recent LED Model JXW944
Overpriced.... by a lot 🙄
@@desinho9 best LED you can get in 2021 for sure and supports all the formats
Jx810e?
thx Vinni
With all and defects, it is my Panasonic TV that gave me the best results for almost a decade. I appreciate LG quite a bit for introducing me to IPS technology, which is not perfect, but after seeing both panel technologies being born, it is a relief to see that the transition to OLED is taking place. Of course, we have 3 technologies in development that intend to surpass the ones we have and knowing the market will be something that will come by 2030.
I like this: "Not all shadow detail are meant to be seen."
I liked this :
Sony brighter shadows make it cleaner less artifacts , and sometimes you see all the details that you shouldn't 🙂
@@fullhd5277 By forcing the brightness of the shadows it also loses its naturalness and this makes the image look flat, with almost no depth. I clarify that I know many people who like this "technique".
@@VidRaza I agree with you that Panasonic is best ; but for someone like me going for the first time to oled , sony is best alternative .
@@fullhd5277 Thanks
I had 32 inch Panasonic led tv. I sold it so i can get smart Panasonic tv but i couldn't find one in Tanzanian Kilimanjaro region moshi town stores
Yes, they need to get better at marketing themselves as a premium brand. Sadly, they don't sell their TVs in Australia anymore.😢
Phew ... what a relief. I hope I can save up to a JZ2000, but I fear I'll have to wait another year to justify the investment.
Heard the rumour a while ago, now confirmed.
Setting for jz1500 gaming please