'Skyscraper' Stumbles: How Solid is The Rock? - Charting with Dan!
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- Dan Murrell and Roth Cornet discuss The Rock's box office pull with his latest movie Skyscraper, opening numbers for Transylvania 3: Summer Vacation, and more! - it's Charting with Dan
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'Skyscraper' Stumbles: How Solid is The Rock? - Charting with Dan!
Dear Dan and Roth,
You’ve actually made it so I look forward to Monday. Even Monday Night Football couldn’t do that. Thanks for making sure I have something to enjoy each week!
Another Monday which means another day closer to the Meg
Shut up Meg
Everyday is another day closer to the meg
Listening to Dan is like meditation for me.
Dan literally said “Legs” before he was even a minute into the episode.
Antony Post so?
kladams707 It’s a new record. And I don’t have any more Apple Juice.
He'll have to start one of these where he's just like: "Legs. Welcome to the Box office Report. Lots of Legs this week."
Rocks by their nature are solid.
Until they're confronted by paper
just ask Korg, he didn't print enough flyers
TheAnnoyingRanter Maybe if we put the Rock up against a room filled with scissors he'll fare better.
Just ask Miek ;)
What about lava?
I loved “Sorry to Bother You” but I could fully appreciate it because you guys gave me the heads up that it wasn’t just a straight up comedy. Thank you cause otherwise I would have enjoyed it but also been disappointed.
I know this is off topic but could y’all please make a Cram It for the Mission Impossible Series. I’m excited for the new one coming out and you guys do an amazing review of movies series.
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The dudes behind John Wick directing the a John Wick style action flick for the rock please.
devilmikey00 oh my god yes
YES!!!!
Schwarzenegger being considered a massive star compared to The Rock is simple. He was actually in great movies. The Rock has Jumanji and the Fast franchise which are pretty good. Arnold was in classics including two of the best movies ever made in Terminator and T2. True Lies, Total Recall, Predator. Compared to The Rock it's not even close.
Yup he worked with some of the best action/comedy directors of the last 30-40 years. James Cameron, Paul Verhoeven, John McTiernan and Ivan Reitman. The Rock just hasn't really done that yet or perhaps never will. Also if you weren't around back when T2 came out that movie was a fricken PHENOMENON back then, like Infinity War big back in 91'. The rock hasn't come close to anything like that.
People don't give Arnold enough credit. He's actually been very ambitious in his career and clearly wanted to be known as the best just like his bodybuilding. He's done action, comedy, picked great scripts with talent behind them and now at 70 is doing a few dramatic roles. He's willing to branch out and do things he's not completely comfortable with. I think that's the Rock's problem he doesn't want to do something he's not comfortable with. He needs to take some risks and be more ambitious like Arnold was. He has it in him to do it but I'm not sure he will ever fully realize that.
As always, I loves Dan's thoroughness and his analysis. And you're right, Schwarzenegger not only.had good movies but they were ICONIC. The Rock needs someone to help him pick better scripts.
I wouldn't say that the Rock doesn't take risks because his filmography in the recent years is ridiculous. If anything he doesn't place much care at all in the projects he picks whereas even though Arnold's filmography was diverse his role in those projects was to be the same thing he always was.
I'm loving Roth's new look
Over 2 years ago, Shane Black and the Rock both announced that they were going to make a Doc Savage movie. That seems like an adventure franchise that’s well suited to both of them.
The Russo Brothers are the Action Director Duo I would love to see the Rock work with. They have some of the most inventive action sequences I have seen in the past few years.
Yeah, those guys did an impressive job with their MCU outings.
Solo Film Director Suggestions:
Christopher McQuarrie
Chad Stahelski
Russo Brothers
James Mangold
Matt Reeves
Matthew Vaughn
Ron Howard
Duo/Buddy Film Director Suggestions:
Shane Black
Michael Mann
Adam McKay
Unexpected Ensemble Director Suggestions:
Edgar Wright
Guy Ritchie
Rian Johnson
Rian Johnson? I don't know about him, after the backlash to The Last Jedi.
That natural hair color is really doing it for me Roth
"They're both Massive Humans" lmao
Rock should makes some action films with Ryan Coogler. As a kid I loved Arnold films but my favorite by far was Last Action Hero, never understood why it flopped.
The Rock is franchise NOS: he can supercharge a movie to higher returns across the finish line, but he needs another person's well built engine to get a better start.
maybe give Ant-Man a movie that isn't within 6 months of an Avengers movie and see how it does
Crappy as usual
Yeah, I would love to see one that didn't follow such a big movie. I felt so bad that Ant Man had to follow Infinity War. I didn't feel bad about the first one following Age of Ultron because AoU sucked.
onequartercanadian no it didn't!!
Exactly.
Travis Spazz yes it did, rewatched it recently before infinity war and it is pretty terrible. None of the heart of the first avengers and some scene transitions are just painful and jarring
I think Ant-Man and the Wasp can still pull off a solid domestic final in spite of the steep 2nd weekend drop. Remember that Spider-Man: Homecoming, which dropped even steeper around the same time of year, still pulled off about an opening-to-final multiplier of around 2.85, its opening accounting for 35% of its gross. While not incredible, this is actually better than the majority of other MCU films. It shows that the film's box office legs recovered after that steep initial drop, thanks to the summer vacation boosts to weekday numbers and a lack of other comic book movies opening after it. Both of those conditions apply for Ant-Man too, so if it follows a similar pattern it would finish around $215m domestic, or a similar sequel boost as Thor 2 got- not amazing, but a solid earner. Either way, I wouldn't count it out from cracking $200m just yet.
I'm happy for Hotel Translyvania even though it's kinda kiddie. Universal failed me with their reboot and "Dark Universe" so this is the closest I'll get to classic movie monsters on the big screen (for now!).
A sick action director= Brad Bird
A few things....
- I told my girlfriend about your new hair Roth (OK that sounds a little odd?), with this video she saw it, and add another "thumbs Up" on the new style.
- Due to you guys and we'll be seeing The Meg 'with you' (we had no interest before you all started talking, joking, about it).
- We are both now considering traveling to Comic Con next year, if you guys are appearing in whatever fashion. It would be cool to see you all in person. Have fun and looking forward to the reports.
And thanks again for all the interesting conversations, analysis, laughs and extras.
T. Stark wanted to also add to the praise of Roth's hair. A+
i love watching the evolution of Dan's beard throughout the week as he is involved in so many videos. Depending on when they filmed the video, you never know what stage his beard is in.
I’m just waiting for Disney’s Christopher Robin to come out and open to number 1 when it comes out.
Roth is different, she has a more serious look, but at the same time sexier
SO!!!! MANY!!!!! PUNS!!!!!!!!!!!
Great hair, Roth! I like both the cut and the color. You look amazing.
Who would have thought that a full generic action movie with a dull generic trailer didnt have people rushing to the cinemas
Dalton Deverell Comcast did for some reason.
Action Directors for The Rock: David Leach or/and Chad Stahelski, Christopher McQuarrie, Russo Brothers if they get a decent non-Marvel project. I’d say those are the top tier action film makers right now.
I been listening to you guys talk about The Meg for weeks, now u got me wanting to go see it.
Roth is looking gooooood with that sexy new haircut
And that make up. We see you Roth!
I believe that the Russo Brothers and Christopher McQuarie (Mission Impossible 5 and 6) are the best action directors working today. Those actions scenes in their films are jaw dropping, but they also have great stories and characters in their works.
I legit find it sad that King Arthur flopped so hard. I rly enjoyed watching it.
Dan's Jason Statham impressions are the best
The Rock should team up with Raid director Gareth Evans
I loved Last Action Hero. I never knew it was a flop until just now.
Also, if Asura comes to America, even if it's just straight to streaming, you have to announce it on screen junkies news. I have to see it.
You guys have actually made me so excited for the Meg
I love you all!
great episode thanks for posting, dan and roth 😊
The Rock is the Acting version of Drake. They both are really good and are consider the top in their respective fields, but when you watch a Rock solo movie or actually sit down and listen to a whole Drake album, their okay not great. It doesn't take away from their talents, but then their both on to the next project, not really spacing out the content their putting out. They both become overexposed. The Rock had the movie Jumanji less than 7 months ago and its great, but who remembers. Arnold and Jay Z (for a comparison for Drake) they had clunkers as well, but also they had CLASSICS, they spaced out their content and fans don't remember their bad as much as their good. What is the CLASSIC solo Rock movie or the CLASSIC Drake album?
Tooth fairy
Great discussions like always. Loving your haircut btw!
Always love the breakdown, but this week's Rock/Arnold comparison was very interesting. Thank you, and keep it up.
He could carry a movie, if he picked a movie with a decent script. All his staring solo movies are garbage projects.
THEY ARE FUN MOVIES PEOPLE CALL ANYTHING ACTION GARBAGE TODAY
This past Friday, a 10pm showing of the Incredibles 2 was 90% full
I love Monday's for this show.
I really enjoyed King Arthur Legend of the Sword. It has great music and it looks really cool.
great episode guys. I'm still loving the new hair Roth. 25 days until the meg! Ha!
Amazing action film directors. Gareth Edwards (The Raid ). Thomas Konkle (Trouble Is My Business) Christopher Nolan , David Leitch, Chad Stahelski, John Woo , George Miller , Alex Garland
The rock is just over exposed.
JUMANJI DID GREAT AND RAMPAGE DID WELL
Over exposed on 70% weak movies.
LMAO...I love you all...I had 0 interest in seeing THE MEG, but for the last month you have hyped this up Roth. I'm a #believer now. I want it to succeed 🤣😂🤣😂
I don't know how much people felt this as well and granted it was a different time, but with Arnold I originally just thought of him as an actor/movie star and only found out much later that he had had this whole other life before movies. Whereas, I tend to think at times of The Rock as that wrestler who is in movies. I don't know if that's what's causing The Rock's perception issues, but it just feels different and maybe that's why I think that.
Roth's new hairdo looks phenomenal.
I usually listen to yall like a podcast but whoah Roth yo hair on point!
After Black Panther & Infinity War Ant Man & the Wasp needed rave reviews to motivate me to go to a theater to see it. Avengers & Black Panther were really great but they just consumed all of my bandwidth for Marvel for a while. I saw Sorry to Bother You & won’t you be my neighbor instead...
Totally unrelated to anything: I love Roth & I’m not sure if this is a greeking thing but it would be awesome if she could switch to a reusable cup & straw/stirrer.
Great episode and it was fascinating to see The Rock/Arnold comparison.
You guys are my favorite I am now super on board for the Meg
'The Dark Knight' celebrated it's 10 year anniversary by getting beaten out by 'Incredibles 2'! Yet again, WB is rocking it!
I think I figured it out. The Rock understands he’s become a Pauly Shore type actor, and he’s trying to make his money as fast as possible.
I’m not saying he’s a bad actor like Shore, but he’s the same “persona actor” like him.
You always knew what character Shore was going to be. It was the Pauly Shore persona+whatever the script needed. That’s the type of characters that The Rock has been lately. Every single one has, The Rock, as the base, and then plus whatever additional traits the script needs.
Eighth Grade is absolutely fantastic!! It'll totally melt your heart.
Giant sharks? Jason Statham? Absolutely going to see it.
Roth is right, it's simple - the Rock needs to pick better projects.
I actually want the Rock to take a break from big, dumb action movies and do a rom-com (action rom-com?) where he falls in love with a nerd girl who teases him about his giant muscles/gym habits. I liked how he was able to not take himself too seriously in Central Intelligence, and I think he does really well in comedies.
Roth's hair looks great! Loving the shorter length!
The Rock should push Disney for a standalone Maui movie. 😂😂😂
I'd like the same comparison between The Rock and Will Smith.
Roth your hair looks amazing!
I am LOVING Roth's new hair!!
I see a combined "Rampage"/"Skyscraper" Honest Trailer in the future.
I love the Rock. However...... just need a little variety in my movies!
MEG! MEG! MEG! Seeing it opening night! I've been waiting 12 years since I first read the fantastic novel! Roth, you need to read it! I recommended it to a friend and they finished it in a day because they loved it so much
Would love to see The Rock team up with either Villeneuve or Blomkamp,
Thinking like a Totall Recall, Predator or T1/2 Vibe
I can't wait for The Meg and Happytime Murders! Both are my kinda movie
love your new hair Roth
Like Hercules, Skyscraper should finish from $60-70 million domestically. Overall, a flop, at least in North America.
The best part of the Emoji movie was the Hotel Transylvania short at the start.
In The Rundown (the rocks first starring role in a feature) he passes Arnold in a club or something. The filmmakers intention was Arnie was metaphorically passing the action star torch to the most electrifying guy. I think it’s a hex on the rocks career, he became the next Carl Weathers instead.
What else can I say, but hey, your welcome.
Chris Nolan comes to mind. Him teaming up with Rock would be interesting.
The Rock-based puns are strong in this one
It’s Tuesday morning here 😂
Junior and Last Action Hero were at the end of Arnold’s run as a major star. Before Last Action Hero, I can’t think of a flop.
I see that wrestling fandom Roth, good shit.
Please tell me you've been paid to be seem so excited about the meg. Because now, you've done such a great work that I want to see it
We want the Snyder Cut of Asura!
I think the stand out with the Rock is when he is in a good film it does well, when he is in a very average film it doesn't do nearly as well. Also he doesn't have one a great film in his catalogue (Arnold had the Terminator films, Predator, True Lies, Total Recall.
Just wanted to say I’m loving that haircut and color Roth!
I was just going to mention the Rock seems to do better in an ensemble but you guys beat me to it.
The upcoming Hobbs movie I really think will do really well (again an ensemble)
I think The Rock works best with his dialogue with others while Arnie is kick arse and one-liners.
And Jason Statham should Headbut that Shark in the face!
The Rock is only as solid as the projects he picks. Acting like Skyscraper is an anomaly ignores this box office history.
they should have Taika Waititi direct the third Ant-Man movie, it'd be a hoot!
Skyscraper probably won’t do too well in the USA, but it will probably get a huge kick out of China.
The argument about the Rock not having a good film financially without other stars is completely true in my eyes since he hasn't had a big critically successful film in the recent years but his upcoming films in 2019 will have other big names such as Shazam and Jungle Cruise. He also has Red Notice coming out in 2020 with Gal Gadot so the success of those films will most defiantly cement the argument that the Rock can't blow it up without having at least one other big name to help him out.
Way to go Transylvania!
Dwayne Johnnson works best when rejuveninating a franchise (Fast & Furious), remaking/rebooting an existing property (Jumanji), or paired with another actor in terms of action or comedy (Statham & Hart respectively)
Yes, i'm gonna see the Meg as soon as it opens at the theaters, Jason Statham is my hommie :)
i feel like ryan coogler or chad stahelski would be very interesting directors to work with the rock 🙂
Have fun at Comic Con!
Actually it's Tuesday afternoon here in New Zealand, Roth...
10/10 Roth's new do!
i'm still hoping that Jason Statham says "Shut up Meg" when he kills it.
15:30 That one line makes me want a Twins Remake with The Rock and Kevin Hart... Anyone else?? No, Just me??
That's interesting about pulling Asura from the Chinese box office. It creates some buzz and interest - Roth expressed such a desire to see it now herself. I'm sure I'll forget about it until it's re-released and (likely) bombs again.
Modern directors who excel at action: JJ Abrams, Edgar Wright, Christopher McQuarrie, Gareth Evans, Tm Miller, Leitch and Stahelski, Lord and Miller, The Russos