Jumanji Takes Down Jedi - Charting with Dan
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- Опубліковано 23 сер 2024
- Jumanji is the new king of the jungle - where does that leave The Last Jedi? Dan Murrell and Roth Cornet break down the numbers!
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I find it so ironic that Jumanji was hated when the trailer came out and people were like "oh it's gonna suck" and today we are talking about how it beat Star Wars at the weekend box office....
I thought the trailer was good...
I agree with Finkle here I though the trailer looked good and I really liked the movie as well.
I liked the trailer... And apparently so did a lot of other people.
Well Jumanji had a subpar trailer, while Star Wars had a pretty good trailer. And then the movies came out and they were the opposite of what people thought each was going to be. Now we are here.
you're right
I love charting with Dan. :D
I'm so happy Jumanji is doing so well. It could have turned out as another cynical cash grab with no effort but actually the film is really entertaining with a lot of heart. Who knew that this would easily outgross Justice League and Transformers 5?? Props to Sony for having a pretty good 2017 with Homecoming and Baby Driver too.
The Last Jedi well Disney will be disappointed in its performance but anyone saying its failure is just plain wrong. The question becomes whether TLJ will have a negative effect on Episode IX and the overall brand of Star Wars as was shown with BvS with JL's failure.
Your last point is the real point about TLJ. Its numbers are insanely high, but in comparison with expectations, AND as an indication of the eps 7-8-9 (and further movies) trend, it is not good. BvS was also heralded as a financially succesful but overall underwhelming BO movie, with a very low audience approval. That was the real problem of that movie: not that it bombed, but it foreshadowed the future bombing of JL (which, admittingly, didn' "bomb", but had very bad BO finals). I don't think SW8 will "bomb" (c'mon), but I don't think it will do an "end of the trilogy" peak, as some are thinking.
POSSIBLE SPOILERS FOR TLJ
SW8 was divisive at best (if not overall hated by some of the core fans, which is always bad), with new characters that didn't click with the audience, and one of the real reasons people wanted to see the new movies was to meet Han, Leia and Luke again, which is a card that can't be played in SW9. So in SW9 you are left with a movie that conlcudes a story with no cliffhangers left from SW8, and no classic characters to meet again. Maybe they could play the Lando card. But I doubt it can balance the loss of Solo and Luke. So: yes, I think SW9 is going to show the same downwards trajectory, and if not made well it could be the final nail on the coffin for this franchise to be considered the "one almighty" of all franchises. Would a SW saga movie (e.g. episode 10) grossing around 6-800 millions a movie be considered great by Disney?
Darth Lehnsherr Transforms was expected to fail but not JL. My brother is the biggest Dc fanboy and i'm the biggest Marvel fan and even i thought JL would make 1 billion but *nope* . Even he is dissapointed with the movie
Homecoming is Disney/Marvel.
Spider-Man: Homecoming is *not* a Disney/Marvel movie. It was produced *and* distributated by Sony Pictures, with Marvel Studios providing "story and character help" as well as RDJ's "Iron Man".
Those two guys are just great on TV. Dwayne Johnson and Kevin Hart are just great couple. Action and Comedy. Perfect.
I finally saw Jumanji this past Saturday, and I enjoyed it. I absolutely adore the cast, the movie was funny from the start to finish. I’m glad this movie is holding up well in the box office! 💪
My prediction: Solo will not do nearly as well as previous Star Wars films. I just don't think it's a good idea.
edsbigsister no ome asked for it, and negative press on the level of the dceu snyder films, following tlj which wasnt universally loved. Its got its work cut out for it
Agreed. Love star wars, couldn't care less about these stand-alones they're doing. If they were original stories about original characters in another part of the universe and didn't come out every year it would be different
Agreed. It wasn’t a good idea at all however it’s a Star Wars movie so it’s going to make a lot of money.
I think Star Wars fatigue is going to settle in for the general movie going public. A Star Wars film used to be a huge event and now it's commonplace.
Hardcore fans will see it in theaters but everyday movie goers may just wait for streaming and DVD
force awakens made 2b last jedi make 1b so far so no
This is my favourite series from the Screen Junkies team along with - of course - Honest Trailers!
Keep up the great work Screen Junkies!
I just wish they would do an honest trailer for the last jedi
The word of mouth on Star Wars: The Las Jedi has definitely affected its box office performance and should be acknowledged. It's a divisive film and had it been better received, it would be doing better at the box office. Happy for Sony that it has a hit with Jumanji. So glad to have this show back! Love Dan and Roth talking about the Box Office.
We can only hope. We deserved a better movie. Thank you China!
Simon James its made 1.2 billion dollars
lex1247 RT audience rating?! Seriously?! As unreliable as IMBD which gave TLJ 7.5
CinemaScore is the only known reliable source for audience rating and it was A
No this film is not devisive, the simple fact is the minority who disliked this film is louder than others.
Got the 5th place for all time domestic, It is doing great BO wise don’t worry ;)
Lilo Emyoung um didn’t phantom menace have an A- cinemascore. So what’s up with that?
Joseph Davidson the domestic box office might be high but it was mainly made on the first weekend this movie dropped off by close to 70% in its second weekend which even with the second weekend falling on the Christmas weekend is still awful. Now if you like the film then great but a lot of the traditional fan base did not enjoy it. Personally, I did not like the direction this movie took and the sheer stupidity of the movie was really off-putting and when you couple that with the pro-feminism of the movie really put me off. Still as I said if you enjoyed the move all the power too you but using box office takings as a defence of a movie has to be one of the weakest ones I can think off unless of course, you believe that Avatar is the greatest movie ever or Gone with the wind is if you adjust for inflation.
LAST JEDI is going to end up with around a 2.7 multiplayer from opening weekend. The opening weekend was based on the strength of FORCE AWAKENS. To not acknowledge that the word of mouth has affected this film very negatively is ridiculous. It's a huge earner no doubt, but its the next film that will truly feel it's effects.
There is lack of common sense in TLJ, so it shouldn't make any money. This movie deserved to be pirated like no one else.
ShandalfGreyhame a lot of people aren’t more people than Disney realizes
ShandalfGreyhame that’s a reach a lot of fans are turned off by ep. and won’t be tuning in I know I won’t I could care less at this point
ShandalfGreyhame I didn’t pay for ep8 I’m not paying for ep.9. Your underestimating how core fans felt burned from this movie. Unless jj pulls a miracle out of his ass. I’d expect a huge box office drop. We already know production for these movies have been shaky at best with no real vision or overarching story. Rian Johnson finished ep.8 before watching 7. If these movies are going to continue to be treated like individuals that don’t connect I’d expect them not to connect well with audiences.
I should watch Jumanji. I watched the review for The Greatest Showman, and honestly I am in the camp that loved it. I even bought the album. I also told my friends how much I enjoyed it. There are some problems, but overall, I enjoyed it. I think another reason Jumanji and The Greatest Showman are doing well is because it's fun. There's so much seriousness going on, and it's great to just go to the movies and forget about what's going on.
So glad this is back
I love that you guys owned up to the fact that people are really enjoying The Greatest Showman despite your feelings towards it. It is cheesy and predictable and extravagant, and I and a lot of people are in love with it! I believe Dan knocked the music in the review and I think the Golden Globes showed how they still love a heartfelt and empowering message anthem like, This is Me. It isn't the greatest movie in the world, but what some critics missed the boat on is that people care more about a movie that will make them feel good, than a movie that is technically proficient and tells a deeply complex and layered story. As of this comment, the Rotten Tomatoes score has gone up to 56% after starting its release at about 48% and the audience score is 90%, making it one of the biggest divides between critical reception and audience reception I've seen since Boondock Saints.
Nicky B I meant a critically panned movie that the audience loved. The Last Jedi is a different case which is a more common occurance of a critically praised film that audiences were not fans of.
The Golden Globes will love anything that has a big star in it! As Dan describes it "the Golden Globes is where movie stars go to jerk each-other off!" It's not a credible award especially these days.
bright's RT critic score was 27% but its audeince score was 87%
Quite the opposite. I think is pretty hard to see a "blockbuster" being loved by critics while divisive among fans.
We loved Jumanji and saw it this past weekend after seeing Star Wars. I can totally believe it to be #1. I want to see it again and would see it as many times as possible. Star Wars? Meh. If I had free tickets I'd see it again.
The Last Jedi as a whole is summed up in the scene where Luke gets handed his lightsaber!
People who have seen the movie will understand what I mean!
SINGHDASLAYA LOL Luke Dab the Lighsaber
Haha, poetry
"When you wish upon a star, makes no difference who you are, anyone can be a Jedi master now ".
I did a marathon of films at the cinema on my day off and I only went to Paddington 2 because Roth talked so much about it and it ended up being the best out of the 4 films I saw that day. It was honestly such an unexpected delight. Thank you Roth.
I love the Greatest Showman !!💜
Surprising that Jumanji took number 1 at the box office.
Don’t underestimate The Rock!
Raghu Seetharaman It had a lot of cringy moments
Yep, big dumb family-friendly action-comedy with three huge, bankable stars.. It's being positively reviewed and word of mouth is good.. Not really surprised a 2.5hr character-driven space opera isn't dominating, especially when that space opera goes out of its way to challenge its fan base.
Not surprised at all. The Last Jedi was not beloved by the majority of the fans. It hurt it's momentum .
Raghu Seetharaman The Rock and Kevin Hart are the two biggest draws a movie can have right now, And it’s actually good so it’s not that outrageous. That on top of this being a divisive Star Wars that a lot of people have not liked so word of mouth isn’t helping Star Wars either. Any other Star Wars movie would be shocking but I’m not that surprised this one isn’t dominating the box office
Love the show guys. Love you’re chemistry, love how you talk about little detail others miss, love the facts and stats you’ll show. Very very happy for this show
Don't be too sad Dan! I live near Camp Humphreys here in South Korea and I was lucky enough to see The Shape of Water with my cousin (who is in the Army and took me to see it). So happy and thankful that it was available to Soldiers here!!
Great to see you back, love your Box Office rundown. Since I'm not from the US it's great to see you also focus on international numbers, also the per theatre take is always very interesting too!
Tickety-boo is a real word Dan! Glad to see this show back
Honestly, I never expected “The Greatest Showman” to be in the Top 5. Good for Hugh Jackman.
Last Jedi is Last Star Wars movie for a lot of folks
TheRoadToRed not me
Possibly last for me. I will be waiting for actual reviews, not paid off/biased "critics" on any further SW properties.
Sean McCurdy .... same for me. I will be waiting for critic reviews I will no longer go based solely on Star Wars name. I did not like the last Jedi.
TheRoadToRed I doubt it.
Peaches Careful, TLJ got a high professional critic score. There are many reasons for this, but chief among them is staying in the good graces of the major movie studios so you can keep getting into early releases and thus write those reviews that drive your livelihood.
Great research by both Roth and Dan! Love hearing about this!
Ah, I've missed Charting with Dan! Welcome back guys :D
I tried watching Jumanji a week after its release thinking, "There's no way it'll be a full room." And sure enough, it was full. Second time, full. Third time I made sure to get there extra early to get a seat and even that room pretty much filled up. I'm shocked, not even that great of a movie. I enjoyed Ferdinand way more.
Also, I think Jumanji would have made even more if Star Wars wasn't taking up all the rooms. There were so little showings of other movies because Star Wars would take up literally half of the showtimes.
Mellow Felloh you went to see jumanji 3 times?
Nah, he tried to see it three times but couldn't get in because the room was full
Brinsley what slytherin_effi said. Couldn't get a seat the first two times because it was full.
Yeah, New Year, New charts !!! I'm so excited!! Loving that Jumanji is killing it. Also just saw the Greatest Showman two days ago and I cannot stop listening to the soundtrack. It was so good. I cried multiple times, it was so inspiring.
Been waiting for this! Love the numbers!!
I always throw up a like for these videos because I really enjoy how Dan breaks down the box office back on Summer Movie Report and Dan's labyrinth. Roth is an excellent co-host, as good as Sasha was, and i just want to do whatever I can to make sure this show keeps on trucking along. Thank you all for your hard work and passion!
I missed you guys so much! So glad you're back!
Greatest Showman: 56% Rotten, 6/10 average score, 90% liked it
It’s a great musical
Roth can be so delightful, sometimes, especially with tickety-boo.
My best friend watched The Greatest Showman 7 times over Christmas break. I have now seen it twice just to appease him. It isn't the best movie ever, but it is a very lovable movie.
I actually checked out Greatest Showman because of this episode. It started with looking at trailers then discovering the soundtrack which is AMAZING and finally going to see the movie. To know that so many people loved it despite the critic rating made it even more interesting. I loved it!
I,Tonya FINALLY comes to the central valley here in cali this week and im so excited!
Good. It’s about damn time.
*Glad you guys are back*
Believe it or not, Coco hasn't even opened in the UK yet. And, indeed, Paddington 2 is absolutely tickety-boo!
Paddington 2 has been out in the UK for a long time now, does it not count as 2017 release for the 'World box office'? Keep up the cracking work Dan, this stuff absolutely fascinates me :)
I love this show, it is my favourite show on the channel. I would just like to say that Coco has a slim chance to become a top 10 worlwide movie because it still has to open in some major markets like UK, Japan, South Korea and Brazil, and it has already made 600 million.
Very good show this week, Dan & Roth!
Living in Singapore. Want to see The Disaster Artist sooo bad :(
We're not getting Lady Bird in my coutry... :(
I'm really sad about it.
Will have to stream it
Now I want to put Streep & Hanks in a zero budget movie by an unknown director & see what happens. Thanks for the great roundup. I watched Paddington 2 last year, I can confirm it's adorable
I love that Dan loves charts. I bet he loves a good Excel spreadsheet, too.
A chart, also called a graph, is a graphical representation of data, in which "the data is represented by symbols, such as bars in a bar chart, lines in a line chart, or slices in a pie chart". A chart can represent tabular numeric data, functions or some kinds of qualitative structure and provides different info.
Siphoning eyeballsThat's a new one for me
Well, I have been telling lots of people to see Jumanji, so I am not surprised by the jump. It’s a hilarious film and I was completely surprised by how much I enjoyed it.
Paddington 2 is the Empire Strikes Back of Paddington movies, highly recommended family viewing.
Wow a fun and enjoyable movie that works as a pretty good sequel to a beloved classic beats one of the most divisive Star Wars film since what? The Prequels? Empire Strikes Back? Dunno, but it happen only on its third week.
Sleepy Cerberus yeah, this title is misleading
Can't believe I'm here so early. YEAH DAN AND ROTH LOVE YOU
Yaaaaaaaay I’m so happy this is back ♥️♥️♥️
To respond to a topic that I could not feel more directed at me and what I commented yesterday about smaller films not being shown in very many theaters in rural Nebraska- it's just bad luck for me. Living in the middle of Nebraska means small, independent films are not going to be shown at the theaters around me because the theaters have to get the wide audience type films and I can't fault them on that. I'm just complaining because it sucks. I realize that. I plan on moving when I can.
Jumanji was really fun watch
Brit here, tickety boo is absolutely a real world. Sorry Dan, Roth is 100% right on this
I love this show
Holy shit that 'Taken Meets The Leftovers' pitch just broke my whole reality
Love this series !!
I missed this. SO. MUCH!
God I love charts
No one expected TLJ to do TFA numbers don't try to kid yourselves into thinking Disney would be happy with it's numbers. Yes, it's obviously going to make them a great profit, however it clearly didn't do as well as they'd hoped it would. It's going to makes about $700 million less that TFA, less than 20% more than Rogue One and was incredibly divisive among fans. If Solo is crap then Disney will be really worried for IX. Especially since there's not really a big hook to get people excited for it.
I love this show!
11:53 I loved TGS
Yeah, we're waiting until 1st of Feb for Ladybird in Australia.
Jedi Ravenclaw11 Yep, and the 18th Jan for The Shape of Water. I'm really excited to see both of them too and have been waiting months.
Ladybird is overrated but I'm excited to see the shape of water
I have a art theatre here in zagreb and they play the oscar movies ever over the summer
Man! That's a surprise!
Liam Neeson has been in space! Star Wars
Paddington 2 is amazing !
Also will end up in the top 5 for the UK in 2017
Star Wars: The Last Jedi - £73.1m
Beauty And The Beast - £72.4m
Dunkirk - £56.6m
Despicable Me 3 - £47.8m
Guardians Of The Galaxy Vol 2 - £41m
Paddington 2 - £39.3m
Everyone needs to see it. With the shit show that the world is currently in, Paddington is a couple of hours of pure joy.
Great example of Jumanji 2, Keep the budget around 100 Million Dollars and reap the benefits even with decent numbers.
Lady Bird is gonna come out after the oscars here in the netherlands :(
What is your guys predicted top ten domestic and international list? You guys should put your list out and take your bets
Ticketyboo is a real word/colloquialism. Essentially means 'Everything's good with me'.
Hollywood seems to have forgotten the basic concept of increased production cost doesn't automatically mean more profit
Wow, that's gotta be the coup de grace for TLJ. To be dethroned by Jumanji [2].
have you even watched the all video??!
Update: As of 11:20AM EST on Tuesday, 1/9/2018, the average rating on RT for The Greatest Showman is 6/10 with a 56% Tomatometer. So the Tomatometer is rotten, but the average rating is fresh. So, yeah, RT isn't exactly helping with this movie. I haven't seen it yet, but I'm thinking about it because of the good word of mouth. Thanks, Dan and Roth!
Dan, you don't need to apologise for L.A. getting all of the limited release movies. It's not your fault that the Oscar's require a movie to appear on screen in L.A. to be nominated.
And maybe there are reasons why movies "just make" themselves when you put Hanks and Streep on a movie set.. ?
RIP Star Wars...
If Jar Jar couldn't kill it, nothing can. Especially since TLJ is now the 2nd highest-grossing SW of all time.
I really enjoyed Jumanji. I liked TLJ as well for the record.
Don't feel like there is a reason for me to see Star Wars episode 9. The legacy characters are gone and the new characters are just not that interesting.
Don't worry when that day comes I'll let you know.
Poe Dameron is the only new character I have any interest in. If Finn was the force sensitive one, he’d have my interest as well. I mean, c’mon, why would you not have a character go from stormtrooper to a fucking Jedi. Huge opportunity missed.
Kevin Hart had a whole Instagram apocalypse now / heart of darkness breakdown while filming. The jungle was full of bugs and he hates bugs and the rock kept messing with him. Great behind the scenes footage
There might have been more than "bugs" to why Kevin had ... trouble, during the making of that movie.
IT’S BACK! YES!
I honestly forgot Pitch Perfect 3 was a thing.
charting with Dan!!
Wow..I'm happy
Tickety-boo is very real - it means the same as a-ok (everything is perfect 👌)
IMDB says guardian of the galaxy is the second largest grossing film of 2017?
Jumanji 2 has a chance to reach 800 million
Now that it's 2018 it's time to predict the Black Panther opening weekend! Reply with your predictions.
Opening Weekend - $100-120 million
Total Domestic Gross - $330 million
Oh boy, if Rian Johnson really gets his own trilogy, it will be hilarious to see his massive failure, because you know that SW fans will boycott it
Did any of you guys watch Wolf Warrior 2 yet?
TFA and TLJ are more comparable to Avengers and Age of Ultron because they had movies in between. The movie in between is the one that benefits ie. Rogue One and Iron Man 3.
Dan said "Sequelitis" and I thought Arin Hanson. Conspiracy confirmed: GameGrumps is breaking into Film Criticism.
RIP Logan, a great movie.
Liam Neeson has been already in the space -_-
I️ know a lot of people like to forget the movie happened... but Liam Neeson has already been in space. #PhantomMenace
Are the Paddington movie actually that good?
I find it hard to believe that the second one has a current 100% rating and the first has a 96%.
Didn't care for TLJ myself, thought it was really dumb imo.
phlynx68 how? It seemed to go beyond the simple answer most of the time for me.
Like, why did Luke go looking for the first temple? Then they added in what would have been, a broken man’s reaction, to everything he made and loves being destroyed by a family member; and finally, how do you write out a major cast member who wants out of the franchise? as Hamill’s F&F have insinuated before&after TFA.
I found this whole movie didn’t take the easy answer; but still followed the SW:TESB guide of the good guys don’t get everything they want and essentially lose, but they get away in the end with renewed hope.
quite a few things, leia suddenly becoming a super jedi flying through space, if ghosts can cast lightning why don't they fight the first order
:P, gravity in space.... I mean come on! he seemed to make force powers up(director) as he needed them for the plot. if you can use light speed as a weapon what the hell were they waiting for lol just turn one of the smaller ships around and let em have it. Admiral Holdo withholding information just for the hell of it ect ect over all it just wasn't a GOOD movie imo anyway :P it was ok at best
Jumanji was fun. The actual teens and the last action scene sucked but the rest was good
great movie