Bohemian Rhapsody Explodes, Disney Bombs - Charting with Dan!
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- Опубліковано 23 сер 2024
- Dan Murrell and Roth Cornet break down the opening of Bohemian Rhapsody, the disappointment of The Nutcracker, and more! - it's Charting with Dan!
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I hope the entire Grinch review is them intentionally misspeaking Benedict Cumberbatch's name while Joe Starr seethes angrily in the corner.
So happy for BoRhap !!! Queen deserves all the love is getting lately. Wish Freddie were alive to see how many people still love him.
9 times out 10 times I prefer fan posters over the official ones. They feel so safe without taking bold stylistic risks. Have this design by committee rather than an artist using it to entice the audience. I walk by a wall of them at the cinema and pretty rare that ones catches my eye.
That collage of Disney posters just makes me sad.
disney just makes so many bombs yearly, it's because iger bought up stuff that other studios made so now disney just coasts.
Cmon Freddie is Freddie! He's a LEGEND!
Another reason for the Nutcracker's failure could be Morgan Freeman has been accused of sexual misconduct by several women and his face is featured very prominently on the poster and it is a kids film and parents did not wanna take their kids
It’s hilarious that Bohemian Rhapsody was panned by critics but loved by audiences because the band themselves were the same. Most people now probably don’t know because Queen is so beloved now, but back in the day the British press used to always diss on Queen. Critics just don’t seem to get it. Maybe they never will.
Queen and the critics never did see eye to eye, so not surprised that the movie is the same. It was always more about the fans/band synergy and the critics never got that. Personally I think most critics (not all) need the stick up their arses removed and to have someone beat some sense into them with it.
Film critics and music critics are very different and film critics tend to be held to higher regards.
The main reason it's being panned is because it's a fluff piece. Which I guess is fine, I didn't hate the film, but it was loaded with historical inaccuracies and outright omissions. It's like a larger budgeted VH1 movie of the week that doesn't get the story right for the sake of a contrived feelgood narrative and story convenience....... Most of the critics have very valid complaints about it. It's still worth seeing, just don't go thinking it's an accurate telling of the story.
@@brianjones8432 - the other (big, IMO) reason for critics giving it a "meh" is that it's a fantastic music video interspersed by a mediocre, cookie-cutter music histography that doesn't really fit into the reality of either the band or of Freddy Mercury as a person. (which plays into your point about historical accuracy).
Also, many critics pointed out that there seemed to be a meta-compromise going on behind the scene with the living members of the band, who have the rights to the music - that they would be given screentime and have their side of the story told, even if the Freddy Mercury side of things was (agruably) WAY more interesting.
they had to move the events around to keep the movie going since it was only 2 hours long. brian and roger approved of this change and it was considered a creative decision. they can't exactly fit 20 years of success into a 2 hour film. if they approved of this change then it's good for me!
I have been Twice to see Bohemian Rhapsody and I Loved it ♥️♥️
Disney decided to push sooner two movies this year. Solo and the Nutcracker. these two movies would had done better during the Christmas holidays.
Dan mentioned that because they're releasing Mary Poppins in December that's why they released nutcracker now
I'd argue that Disney shouldn't have also released Incredibles 2 a year early like it was. It would have helped the film be less disappointing.
@@justqueennothighqueen38 wait what? How was incredibles 2 disappointing? It made like a billion dollars at the box office...
@@justqueennothighqueen38 disappointing in what way? it grossed over $600 million domestically
@@nameyourchannel838 disappointing in terms of quality. It was a sequel to Pixar's less film, so there was no doubt it was going to make a lot of money. I honestly don't understand why its Rotten Tomatoes score is so high. If it was released next year as planned, I think they would have had more time to polish the script. Just my opinion.
Trailers for The Nutcracker gave me a "Tim Burton's Alice in Wonderland" vibe in the worst way.
I thought the same thing.
Everytime I saw the trailer in theatres I would be like "oh hey is this Alice in wonderland??... Wait no what is this... Oh this is *that* movie."
Bohemian Rhapsody, I've seen twice, and average audience age...early 60s. Me too. LOL. Greetings from Sydney, Australia.
Really starting to hate the sameness of the Disney posters...wish they would use a new marketing team. Kinda proud of how well Venom is doing, and I really really hope Sony produces a much better and worthy sequel out of its success.
y, r rated and more focused on venom eddy relation instead of this cheesy cliche story
@@kingplunger6033 Making the film R rated won't magically improve the quality, just saying
I loved Bohemian Rhapsody. It was incredible!
can't wait to see Bohemian Rhapsody!
12:00
Dan: Including a mistake I made on last weeks show
Roth: I do those all the time!
Dan: I know.
LOL. You guys are the best. Thanks!
Maybe it’s just me but I don’t find there’s much artistry put into movie posters anymore. Big studios need to get creative with their posters again. I can’t imagine people will want to frame these posters and show them off 10/20 years down the line the same that people do of posters from the 80s and earlier. Not that that is their goal but still, it’s unfortunate they can’t really be looked at as their own separate art form anymore.
Jocelyne Isabelle I agree. The only posters I’ve seen this year that I’ve really liked are one of the First Man ones where his helmet visor looks like the moon, and the theatrical poster for The Old Man and The Gun
I loved the Kong: Skull Island posters.
That is Queen, they never was critical acclaimed as a band but always very beloved from the audiences, so this is like a tradition :p
I watched bohemian rhapsody 3 times!
Please review The Nutcracker!!! I'm so curious what you would say!
Hope Joe can join in in your Grinch review. The swear jar will be filled up to the brim with Joe’s money.
Bohemian Rhapsody will crush A Star is Born in the International box office. The international music scene is somewhat different to the US, and many British bands are way bigger internationally than Americans may realize. In US sales, people ranging from Tim McGraw to Kenny Rogers to Barbara Streisand have all sold more units than Queen - this is _not_ the case internationally. (Lady Gaga has not though). Practically everyone in Asia knows Queen, while I seriously doubt that more than a few hundred listen to Garth Brooks (the biggest selling American artist of all time in the US). BR is going to do well worldwide.
Loved bohemian Rhapsody had a great time at AMC Dolby!
I'm watching this now and it is so weird to think about how Bohemian Rhapsody made $900 million worldwide
I feel like nowadays, with huge stars being cast in these movies, having their name AND face on the movie poster is being written into contracts to sign them, which might be forcing studios (particularly Disney) to create posters like they have been
Rhapsody will have people going more than once i think too
The Chuck Jones How the Grinch Stole Christmas cartoon is perfect.
Loved Bohemian Rhapsody! Rami Malek definitely deserves at least an Oscar nomination for his incredible performance.
I forgot I was watching an actor a few times that's how good he was the guy playing the guitarist was also really good
They didn't promote The Nutcracker worth a damn.
canderia it wasn’t worth promoting.
As someone who spends all day online and consuming media (my job), this video is my first time even hearing that there was a new Nutcracker movie let alone that it already came out. Very bad marketing campaign.
They promoted the hell out of it what?
CANDERIA, yes they did. It's been everywhere. The reason it bombed is simply because The Nutcracker doesn't ever translate well. It's a ballet, not a film.
canderia they relied too much on it being a Disney movie
Saw it in IMAX and the live aid scene was amazing.
At least Disney’s Christopher Robin is now just $1 million away from $100M domestic.
Still underwhelming.
Michael Linde Not really, especially for a Winnie the Pooh movie.
It kind of is for an all ages movie.
Michael Linde Disagree.
Some of those posters actually really stand out though. Ant-Man and the Wasp, Last Jedi, Thor Ragnarok and probably also A Wrinkle In Time posters all stand out. The rest really don't.
The problem isn't with the overall direction of any of those posters, but with the execution of the specifics. I just said the Ant-Man poster stands out. It does. It also looks fantastic. But it does a terrible job of conveying what the movie is. The only great poster there is really the Last Jedi one, which looks amazing and actually hints at the movie you're getting.
Black Panther and Guardians 2 posters both capture the feel of the films (as does Ragnarok), despite (IMO) not being all that nice to look at or necessarily standing out at all. Beauty and the Beast also does a pretty good job of selling the movie. The only real poster that has an easy job is Infinity War - you can never make a poster with all those people on it look good, so just cram 'em all in there and have Thanos loom over them. Perfect.
Damn that Last Jedi poster is good tho.
To be fair, Guardians 2 had this alternative Poster which had the Guardians look like some band in black and white.
Love you two and this show so much.
I'd like to watch one where Venom would chop Lambert's head off and replace Mercury in Bohemian Rhapsody 2! x')))
Forgive me if there are other posters of the Nutcracker apart from the one I’ve seen....but where is the Nutcracker in the poster, and if he’s there, why isn’t he front and center with the female MC?
The only reason I knew there was a Nutcracker movie was a poster at the movie theatre no other marketing.
I found out about it from this video
I think I saw one trailer about it and I'm not sure where
I found out because someone reported about the peaceful way Joe Johnston and the original director mutually agreed for Co-Credit rather than make it ugly like most filmmakers do and that was like two days before it came out.
I've seen a few ads on youtube and in the theater sometimes.
Why did executives end up getting terrified by the concept of an illustrated poster? Like, look at Drew Struzan's poster for Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone vs. the poster for like the Half-Blood Prince. Movie posters often used to be magic and mysterious and actually added something to the film.
A movie like Bohemian Rhapsody is not to be judge by the critics but the original members of the band
Again maybe this is because I live in NY but I saw a lot of marketing for the Nutcracker for over a month in NYC and have been obsessed with the trailer since I first saw it last December. I honestly (my personal opinion) didn’t go see it right away because it’s too early but can’t wait to watch. I feel releasing this movie this early hurt it because some people actually wait until AFTER Thanksgiving to see Christmas movies.
Same here. I mean, I stumbled over a trailer by accident, but there hasn't been a proper Nutcracker movie yet and despite the critics, I hope that I might like this one. But there is no way I am watching The Nutcracker before December. It's a typical Christmas story which I have to watch when I am in a Christmas mood.
Looking forward to all the reviews this week!
god disney posters are awful. cram as many stars as possible on a sheet, it works for superhero movies but not for nutcracker
I loved Bohemin Rhapsody. I’m so glad people made up their own mind and went to see it. The critics don’t know crap about this movie. I enjoyed every single thing about it. I’m gonna see it again. 👍🙂
It's mainly because the average movie goer doesn't give a damn about historical accuracy. I mean, it's not a bad film, but it's got tons of inaccuracies and outright omissions. Anyone who's a Queen fan should just go in knowing it's far from a true telling of the tale. That said, Malek was good as well as the rest of the cast. It's just a VH1 puff piece type biopic with a larger budget.
@@brianjones8432 How does the accuracy rate on a scale of The Greatest Showman being a P.T. Barnum biopic?
@@DanielFSmith About as fantastical.....
they had to move the events around since the film was only 2 hours long. brian and roger approved of this change and was considered a creative decision by them.
@@buffycatnip It wasn't JUST what they moved around, it was what they manufactured and outright made up out of thin air as well.......smh
Dan looks so good today! And so does Roth!
I'd like to see Motion Picture Ratings discussed. Including the differences between different countries. When we went to see the first Deapool movie which was rated R in the U.S., there were tons of people who had brought their kids as it was rated 14A in Canada. Do you think the Motion Picture Ratings should be updated and possibly expanded? As an adult with adult children, I'd appreciate some changes with more options.
As the year winds down, I think it would be cool to do a show about box office, busts success and annonamalies for the whole year!! plz?
Wow, ASIB will outgross Solo domestically at this rate.
I hadn’t even heard about the Nutcracker movie until I watched this video. Granted that happens somewhat frequently but usually the movies I don’t know about are the ones from the per screen average chart and not a wide release.
I manage a new theater and I haven't seen Bohemian Rhapsody, but all of my guests are in love with it. When somebody opens the theater door to visit the restroom, I catch some of the music and it just blesses my soul. Ugh, I can't wait to find time for it... Somebody let me know what you think of it
I loved it.
I fell in love with it 😍
The most fascinating image platform is the movie poster.
Their design trends tell a lot about the Zeitgeist of the Spectacle.
It has so many variables to its representation of life story reality and art itself.
Its style and trends are ever-changing b/c its language has different sources and purposes.
I think another problem with the Disney posters, outside of the sameness, is that they're focused on putting names and faces on the posters, and not trying to give people a peek at what the story is about.
little tidbit; Bohemian Rhapsody was so hyped and wanted that Guns n Roses went to a Mexican theatre (cuz they had a concert this weekend in Monterrey) to see it because they could not for the love of cheese wait to see it until they returned to the us
this was honestly the first i'd even heard of the nutcracker movie...
All in office dress in green, grinch color, for Joe Starr :-D
I wish I had Dan's job
How do you guys determine what movies to review? I was looking for a Nutcracker review because that movie made me so angry and I was hoping you would talk it over and ease my pain.
I don´t think Disney´s posters are lazy... it is just that the movies include a wide number of important actors / characters
Two more weeks until Widows!!!
Will there be a review of suspiria?
Charts!
"Mary Poppins Returns" will do fine
5/10 movies are marvel properties. Awesome!
Will you guys review Suspiria? Close to a masterpiece of a film but not quite, Thanks guys
Yeah the posters for the MCU (while I like some of them) is really a thing they should do better. They are making movies based on comicbooks! Where story and drawing are equals! If you want faces on posters at least give it a vibe to it by hiring a comic book artist! You even got Andy Park (among others) who is making realistic concept arts, so give him a poster to do!
Yes! Good to see Bohemian Rhapsody doing well- "Allllrigght!🎤"
I agree, Dan. Disney’s Christopher Robin is a modest success.
It's too early to watch The Nutcracker. It belongs into December. But it should still be in theatres next month and then I will see if I can catch it. I don't really care if the story is good or not, I love the music and honestly, the story is mostly visuals anyway.
Straight outta Compton can beat Bohemian Rhapsody in the US, but worldwide it’s a different story.
I'm with the critics on Bohemian Rhapsody, it just didn't do what other Music Biopics seemed to be able to achieve. Really didn't feel that I got a good understanding of Freddy Mercury's personal life or how Queen's songs came to life or drew inspiration from the lives of the band members. Got more out of Jersey Boys or Love and Mercy.
I mean the fact Morgan Freeman is in Nutcracker after being accused of being a perv might have something to do with a section of the population not bringing their kids to see the movie....just a thought.
Suspiria spoiler review, pretty please?!
Now I’m really curious how well Venom will open in China.
HAHAHA Joe is a Grinch Grinch
I gave it a standing ovation, n the rest of the theater did as well. 😉
See the Grinch, so Visite at Joe's?
Bohemian Rhapsody was a crowd pleaser.
ScreenJunkies, what do you make of Ivan Ortega's first The Last Jedi Edit trailer? And what do you think of his project as a whole?
Disney's posters are looking a lot like the current screenprint scene (just not as cool)
Damn wasnt attracted to roth at first.... But her personality is pretty fiery. And her kink for joe kinda makes me feel a certain way
Only place I’ve seen The Nutcracker heavily advertised is on Food Network. I’m guessing they’re going for the “watches holiday baking shows about Christmas in October” crowd...
I tolerated the Jim Carrey Grinch film: I've NO reason to see the animated nightmare, mostly as a) I grew up with the Karloff animated version, which follows its source material, and b) if you're gonna cast Benedict Cumberbatch as a Voice Over role, with a film known for a British accent voice (Karloff), LET HIM SPEAK NORMALLY. They may as well have just brought in Steve Carrell.
I'm sorry Dan, but according to Deadline Pirates 5 made a profit of $280m. So hardly a failure, but just a case of diminishing returns.
The house of the impenetrable Disney seems to be finally starting to losing some of its bricks. I love Disney, always have, ever since I was a child.... I adore their animated features, I particularly love the Marvel offerings.... but this needed to happen. They’ve been monopolising the industry for far too long.... the industry was in danger of being swallowed up by them. Hopefully, we’ll get a breather now from the overload of milking franchises more than a jersey cow!!
Not really. They're still on track to break the record for biggest year at the box office for a single studio, or if not they'll get very close, and they own the current record anyway. Disney will finish the year around $8billion worldwide, double what WB will finish with. As for monopolising, Disney only release 8-10 movies a year, around half what the other major studios release. Just because they focus on fewer movies that are all tentpoles and have turned that into a success does not mean they have a monopoly. WB still own more IP's than Disney, they just keep flopping (Tomb Raider, DCEU, Blade Runner 2049, Lego Ninjago etc). If other studios release more movies with IP's that are just as big but have less success because the movies simply aren't as good, then that's not Disney's fault.
Pretty sure this will just make Disney more cautious and rely on there franchise films and there live action cash cows.
Next year will offset any losses of this year. I mean Frozen 2, Toy Story 4, Aladdin, lion King, Dumbo.
That is not even mentioning any of the Marvel/Star Wars films
Andrew Murray true words indeed Andy! Marketing aside, their line up is incredibly impenetrable. I can’t wait to see what they do with the Lion King, I have an inkling it’s going to bury any worries people have of it tarnishing the beloved original.
"Ralph Breaks The Internet" is out in a few weeks
VoyageOne1 cannot wait for it!!! Apparently Baby Groot makes an appearance!!!⭐️⭐️😂😂😂😂⭐️⭐️⭐️👍👍👍👍
is it just me or has there been no big promotion for Mary Poppins? like i know its coming out cause of you guys, but I haven't seen no posters or no trailers
Hold on, wait, hold on, sooo...
Boy Erased isn't a gender-swapped remake of Girl Interrupted?
Ugh so sorry you have to watch that new Grinch movie. I couldn't imagine having to rehash that again. "Hey let's turn a 14 page kids book into an hour and a half movie" How about no!?!
DC rules!!!
I saw The Miseducation of Cameron Post at Sundance and Boy Erased at the Austin Film Festival this year, and I have to completely disagree with Roth on this one. I found that Miseducation was way too on the nose and really a disappointingly generic telling of such an important story, where I found Boy Erased accomplished subtly and with love all the things Miseducation was trying to do. It's so interesting that two people can see the same movies and have completely different responses. Neither film is bad in my opinion, I just found Boy Erased on a completely higher level. That's just my thoughts. I hope everyone sees these films. And enjoys them. :)
Also love the poster comparison. Could be a new segment. How every genre of film makes the same looking posters (Disney now being their own genre I suppose). All the rom-com leads standing back to back and so on.
Holy crap! Why is Charts with Dan released so early?! Is it Christmas?
The only reason I have even heard about the Nutcracker movie is because there were a bunch of posters in Union Station (Toronto) last weekend. I haven't seen anything else about it. Why did it come out now? It's more of a Christmas movie, no?
Because if they released it in December it'd be competing against Mary Poppins.
The green screen duing the Live Aid concert was SUPER DISTRACTING. i enjoyed the movie, but jeez, that was a mood killer.
I'm in the UK and only just managed to get to see Bohemian Rhapsody. For a Monday afternoon, all the screens were what I would say busy. All over half full.
I didn't even realize The Nutcracker had come out.
They really suck at marketing.
Wow...seeing Disney's posters together like that looked HORRIBLE. Their MCU posters especially looked lazy as hell next to one another, lots of recycled poses and colors. I find all of them ugly too, it's just a mass of faces in order for no stars to be left out, like god forbid someone isn't on it...I actually want to go back to a time where posters were their own form of art and you actually wanted to buy them to hang on your wall! Less faces and more concepts or themes, sell the MOVIE, not the damn star budget!
I'm a movie theater manager and I didn't know Nutcracker was even coming out until it did.
Free Solo is opening for me this weekend, thank you for letting me know it exists, also love the show!
Charting with Dan is the best thing about Mondays!
The marketing problem with Nutcracker isn't the samey-ness of the poster, it's that they didn't actually do a damn thing. I saw the trailer in a theater only once, not a single TV commercial, and absolutely no buzz anywhere.
Also, I think Mary Poppins isn't going to be anywhere near as successful as Dan & Roth et al are hyping it up to be. I'm sure it'll make bank but I'm highly doubtful it'll be something people go crazy over or even remember in 4 months after its release.
Oh, and The Grinch will be a total shit pile.
I mean it's basically Disney live action that's a hit or miss....Disney in house that does wreck it Ralph, zootopia, and frozen/tangled is still up there with Pixar, marvel, starwars
Disney's non-animated and non-superhero movies have not done great this year.
Disney in 2018 put out 4 superhero movies and 4 non-superhero movies. The four superhero movies all became the biggest hits ever. The other four, all flopped terribly. That's just weird...
@@Libx920 Lets not give Disney ideas. Lets hope this streak of events doesn't change anything at all the studios. I dont wanna see only superhero movies and absolutely nothing else. People need to see some others once in a while...
@@hackman6486 There are others, people just need to actually go watch them.
@@hackman6486 Actually, what you said was "I am tired of seeing soooooo many superhero movies. People need to see some others once in a while...". You're clearly making a complaint and implying the release of so many superhero movies is impairing other films which is scarcely the case. Like you said in your OP, Disney released 4 this year. That's only 4 films in less than a 12 year span versus how many movies come out in a given month? You can go see other movies literally anytime you want.
@@__________1175 Oh! I have been misinterpreted. Lemme change my initial statement..
Did you guys review Suspiria yet?
The nutcracker wasn't terrible but it might be because I thought i would hate it