Which Stellaris Expansion Should You Buy Next?

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  • Stellaris DLC Tier List. Which Stellaris Expansion should you get next? Lets go through every expansion and DLC available for Stellaris and rank them into a tier list!
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    Chapters:
    0:00 Intro
    0:41 F Tier
    2:58 C Tier
    9:00 B Tier
    15:56 A Tier
    20:22 S Tier
    27:04 DLC Combinations
    Stellaris Version 3.8
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  • @MontuPlays
    @MontuPlays  Рік тому +35

    Up to 75% off base games and 50% off DLC. Don't miss out on the Paradox Spring Sale at Humble Bundle: www.humblebundle.com/store/promo/paradox-interactive-spring-sale/?partner=montuplays

    • @cp1cupcake
      @cp1cupcake Рік тому +1

      Fake news: none of the DLC I am missing are on sale 😭
      I'd also have suggested putting the sale prices alongside the normal ones.

  • @ThatOneGuy_James
    @ThatOneGuy_James Рік тому +736

    Buy Planetoids and Necroids and play space Plants vs Zombies

    • @JaceTheSlacker
      @JaceTheSlacker Рік тому +84

      There's an achievement for that.

    • @Vox_Popul1
      @Vox_Popul1 Рік тому +32

      Who’s buying whole ass planets

    • @pieterfaes6263
      @pieterfaes6263 Рік тому +8

      I think there's a mod with a digsite like that.

    • @U_C_G
      @U_C_G Рік тому +13

      @@JaceTheSlacker I managed to get that achievement by complete accident the other day. It's now my second rarest achievement on steam

    • @Nikolai0169
      @Nikolai0169 Рік тому +7

      @@U_C_G I also got it by accident. I was playing idyllic bloom trying to look for the kettling planets, and a primitive civilisation reached ftl capability. I denied them their territorial claims and appearantly that counts as destroying an empire.

  • @TheGerudan
    @TheGerudan Рік тому +279

    I honestly use the Lithoid ship set for my organic hive mind empire a lot of the time because it is the only ship set that doesn't look like tech. I just wish they would give us an organic ship set for my Zerg/Tyranid/Rachni Swarms.

    • @somedudeok1451
      @somedudeok1451 Рік тому +31

      I find that Molluscoid ships look quite organic as well. No, they're not literall pulsating organs, but those would probably not be viable as a space vessel anyway. And the vessels do have naturally flowing lines and a hull texture that could absolutely be made from a kind of "organic alloy" material.

    • @2MeterLP
      @2MeterLP Рік тому +6

      Well you could always use mods. Pretty sure there are mods that let you use the prethoryn ship set.

    • @dragoniceful
      @dragoniceful Рік тому +7

      @@somedudeok1451 Same for the Fungoid, they look like I’d imagine a bionic ship

    • @ICircuit64
      @ICircuit64 Рік тому +7

      @@somedudeok1451 There are literal space dragons. Not a viable space vessel isn't really an argument at that point

    • @somedudeok1451
      @somedudeok1451 Рік тому +5

      @@ICircuit64 It is. Those Dragons have scales as thick as mountains. If you took those away and exposed the veiny, pulsating innards to the radiation of space, it'd be bad.

  • @scyfrix
    @scyfrix Рік тому +155

    If you're keeping track, that's $161 just for the B Tier and above DLCs.
    Federations, Utopia, and Distant Stars especially feels like a crime for it not to be in the base game already.

    • @MontuPlays
      @MontuPlays  Рік тому +29

      I mean, that is 12/18 DLC (so over two thirds).
      Also, on sale atm you can get those for $98 as well, if you follow the link in the pinned comment!

    • @nqgames2954
      @nqgames2954 8 місяців тому +19

      @@MontuPlays The game is 6 years old. They have been adding new updates to a completed game for 6 years even if you bought all the dlc at full price that's ~$45 a year. Its not all meant to be bought at once.

    • @FluffyFractalshard
      @FluffyFractalshard 7 місяців тому

      Paradox are criminals as is anyone else in this shitty post-capitalist dytopian nightmare slave-matrix garbage world we are still living in.
      But luckily this is about to change and they will all have to face the music soon when they realize their entire life was built on a lie.

    • @lindyy7783
      @lindyy7783 4 місяці тому +1

      CD keys 👍

    • @gidds617
      @gidds617 Місяць тому

      Yeah I'ma buy anyway cause I love this game and want to support the devs

  • @bbott137
    @bbott137 Рік тому +23

    Fair Opinion of Lithoids, however, They have the best Advisor voice in the game doing a Rock-Optimus Prime voice. "Pebbles, ROLL OUT"

  • @BloodRider1914
    @BloodRider1914 Рік тому +84

    My favourite part of Nemesis is honestly its music. Those three tracks are some of the best in the game.

    • @captdude81
      @captdude81 Рік тому +16

      Synthetic God would like a word with you. :)

    • @apie1977
      @apie1977 Рік тому +4

      @@captdude81 That track is...godlike 😀

    • @2MeterLP
      @2MeterLP Рік тому +2

      Hostile Fleet Detected from Apocalypse is my favorite track in the OST

    • @Finn-xq7xg
      @Finn-xq7xg Рік тому

      The imperial fleet from Utopia is the best track in my opinion

    • @Kenstro949
      @Kenstro949 Рік тому

      TRUUUUUUUUUUUEEE

  • @frogvie3624
    @frogvie3624 Рік тому +64

    plantoids is probably my favorite species pack, mostly because I love the portraits and name sets. idyllic bloom is also one of my pet favorite civics because I love gaia worlds. the flavor of this pack is just so spot on for me.

    • @AndrewMellor-darkphoton
      @AndrewMellor-darkphoton Рік тому +1

      Yeah another person that bought plantoids earlier than they should have.

    • @MagnorCriol
      @MagnorCriol Рік тому +1

      I'm personally a fan of the plantoid ship set, as well.

  • @beaujaiskamal9028
    @beaujaiskamal9028 Рік тому +39

    I was playing coop with my friend last night and we found a pretty big bug... when you launch the Unlock New Council Slot agenda, if both players try to select a new council member (at least within like 1 second of each other) it actually gives you two new council slots. We got two heads of research positions and were able to fill both slots and continue playing with no issues. 5 councilors by year 15

    • @PkTLrD
      @PkTLrD Рік тому +4

      We had that too, but a save and reload correctly displays only the one ruler - we never got around to checking if the bonus' applied twice though

    • @smc912
      @smc912 Рік тому

      same thing but with traits lol

  • @cheekloins4126
    @cheekloins4126 4 місяці тому +2

    As a worshipper of Grandfather Nurgle, I impulsively bought Toxoids together with the base game. I am still VERY new to this game, but the Galaxy has not been free of my stench since I’ve started.

  • @arko09
    @arko09 Рік тому +2

    Thank you. I already got all the DLCs but your video is a helpful reminder of what’s in my toybox.

  • @pmvcallan
    @pmvcallan Рік тому +15

    Paragons has a impact on everything, including the vanilla game.
    Forcing vanilla players into the main mechanic changes, without the the majority of its features if pretty damn dirty.

    • @IwhowasdatXD960
      @IwhowasdatXD960 6 місяців тому +2

      Yeah not enough people talked about this i believe

  • @mariotcarreon
    @mariotcarreon Рік тому +1

    Thank you montu, I had been planning to get my friend into stellaris and your video gives me more bang for my buck.

  • @DemonKing19951
    @DemonKing19951 Рік тому +75

    I will admit, I feel like lithoids got done dirty here. I definitely think it should have least been given the same treatment as plants because lithoids + hive minds or lithoids + paragons is actually a great combination. Plus, unless I'm remembering incorrectly, I'm pretty sure they're the only one that actually get to play a faction that outright just eats planets. I get it that this list, in particular with species packs, is subject to Montu's personal preferences but I hate see my rock boys get dissed like this.

    • @Nomadic_Gaming
      @Nomadic_Gaming Рік тому

      agreed and the best necroids are lithoids
      without that its not nearly as busted
      lithoids also have the best announcer for more whimsical stuff like subterranean origin plus w the recent cyborb ascension update cyborg lithoids are pretty solid because pop creation and then the special world that churns pops out

    • @bsh7390
      @bsh7390 Рік тому +2

      lithoid fulfill a lot of roeplays.. but the content so little .. I like the ships set though

    • @TruthHunterTeen
      @TruthHunterTeen 7 місяців тому

      I also enjoy the Rockies... But in general barely ever use them so I agree with placement. All dlc is worth it, I just don't use some all the time. For reference I'm only missing first contact, astral which isn't out yet and paragons

  • @Dollt28
    @Dollt28 Рік тому +18

    Its kinda funny cause I would swap Lithoid + Plantoid with Humanoid and Necroid.
    Lithoid and Plantoid are actually unique aliens with their own distinct portraits/ships etc. while Humanoids and Necroids are yet more futuristic tech ships with humans but these humans have pointy ears, weirdly shaped teeth or just unusual skin colour.
    In TV shows I get it since its cost effective to just give make up to the actors to look like humanoids but imo in video game an entire galaxy should have more variety in life than just humanoid spam (also why I like aqua pack since I dont think every alien life "has" to breathe oxygen out of air/there should be life with some kind of "deeper" synergy with water given the amount of water in the universe)

  • @rezatriwansyah268
    @rezatriwansyah268 Рік тому +6

    i would very much like to see a "patch/update version" tier list, just for nostalgia sake and see how much stellaris have improved over years. and also what is the most game changing patch and/or feature update ever been implemented to stellaris in your opinion.
    would be a fun content to watch!

  • @Turkoktonos1
    @Turkoktonos1 Рік тому +7

    not an unwelcome surprise, actually i was thinking you would make a tierlist on the civics, coz of the new additions to them, but that is very welcome too. Sadly i need to admit i have already all of the dlcs, so ... still happy to hear from you.

  • @Raiden_24
    @Raiden_24 4 місяці тому +2

    I think if you play as a machine empire in the espionage part you should get an option to start a machine rebellion in materialist empires with robots or andriods that would be fun

  • @riotintheair
    @riotintheair Рік тому +12

    For me Federations will always be S-tier. I agree with you putting it in A-tier objectively, but everything in the pack is my jam and what I want.

  • @CrazyVolus
    @CrazyVolus Рік тому +25

    I really like Plantoids and Lithoids! I will agree they are mostly for meme-y empire builds, but I really like meme-y empire builds. Terravore is really fun. Gaia spam or radiotrophic can make interesting runs with plantoids. I have also seen the Galatron a grand total of two (2!) times.

    • @mattsavage6144
      @mattsavage6144 Рік тому

      Said it before me! I'm currently doing my first Terravore playthrough and it's pretty fun!

  • @victorian-dad
    @victorian-dad 3 місяці тому

    Been thinking about getting Stellaris for a long time. This video was VERY useful - thank you!

  • @leftkehsvault2712
    @leftkehsvault2712 Рік тому +13

    From the secret call-out, it is us who thank you Montu for delivering the DLC ranking video so fast! I was happily surprised to see Nemesis and Necroids rising up the ranks. Espionage is really not where it could be, so I would expect for the DLCs to be enriched with future updates of the game. Also, can't wait for PDX to release Overlord and Aquatics on sale; they are now walking into their second year of age, and "fingers crossed" Steam's summer sale could bring us a nice surprise...

  • @fabioduarte3301
    @fabioduarte3301 10 місяців тому

    Have been following your stuff for some years now, made it to the 20 m Mark and Will stick to the end ❤

  • @Jannah_2k
    @Jannah_2k Рік тому +1

    I see quality Montu content, i watch and hit the Like button! ^^ Agreeing mostly with the list, and S tier is spot on. And yes, Paragons DLC belongs there, when balance/bugs fixed, it's a great addition up there with Utopia. :) Personally would have put Apocalypse on A tier, but only because i'm a big Titan & World Cracker enjoyer hahah. Titan's auras can be nice, especially the anti-disengagement aura and couple others got use also. :)

  • @Stajerc88
    @Stajerc88 Рік тому +4

    Bought the game for 9,99 in this sale and already 24h played so i am very interested on how to Upgrade it. So this vid comes at perfect time!

  • @richardchaparro2830
    @richardchaparro2830 3 місяці тому

    Nice. Great work

  • @ripvanwinkle2972
    @ripvanwinkle2972 2 місяці тому

    dude ur actually awesome. subscribing and now an avid watcher 😭

  • @rexross1461
    @rexross1461 Рік тому +2

    I like just having them all, makes it so varied and interesting.

  • @gordohippo8120
    @gordohippo8120 Рік тому +3

    only dlc im missing is first contact and paragons but i always love a tier list

  • @unholyxeras8182
    @unholyxeras8182 Рік тому +7

    The overtuned origin is still great even with galaxtic paragons, specifically for slaver empires. Yes, you have to be careful about using overtuned traits on your primary species, but you still get a leg up on genetic ascension, and the traits are great for use on slaves at no cost at all cos theyre not becoming leaders in the first place...and eventually you'll get enough increased leader lifespan that you can use them without worryies on your primary species anyway, especially with those erudite-elevated synapses-augmented intelligence research skaves with damn the consequences turned on. Thats +80% science per researcher on your science worlds right there

  • @Jackbanne
    @Jackbanne Рік тому +9

    I dont play lithoids but i like having them in the galaxy. Especially my min-maxed cave-dwelling mineral lithoids that makes an excellent vassal

    • @WRanger87
      @WRanger87 Рік тому +1

      That’s exactly how I feel about synthetic dawn. Robot hive minds feel like an essential part of a sci-fi universe, but I don’t personally like playing them due to their lack of personality.

  • @tash1201
    @tash1201 Рік тому +3

    o7 for the call out. I think these are great intro lists and I hope gets more new people included. But I speak for the obsession. The Space Opera. When you and aspec got me into the game, my inner pokemon master came out. I knew I had to be the very best. Like no one ever was. And to catch them all was my real test.... to, to conquer them all. To enslave the Galaxy under my rule. They call me a tyrant but all I bring is peace. Peace in our time... on my terms.

  • @berlindude75
    @berlindude75 Рік тому +2

    10:41 Speaking of Trantor, Season 2 of "Foundation" will be released on July 14, 2023 for streaming via AppleTV+.

    • @KeytarArgonian
      @KeytarArgonian 24 дні тому +1

      How good/bad is it? Does it actually follow the books?

    • @berlindude75
      @berlindude75 23 дні тому +1

      @@KeytarArgonian I enjoyed it a lot. Also because there aren't that many new well-made distant future sci-fi shows these days. It's visually stunning and has a lot of delicious intrigue (especially in the added detailing of the ruling imperial family of the Galactic Empire).
      Hardcore Asimov book fans were as usual critical of the show not adapting every little detail. But this is simply not feasible because Asimov's Foundation books cover thousands of years and he wrote in a style that is not easily adaptable to small screen storytelling. The Asimov Estate also only gave rights to adapt certain books. If you can overlook that and keep an open mind, you will surely enjoy the show for what it is: A well-made sci-fi adaptation for the small screen that follows the key developments of the books in broad strokes. I for one am eagerly waiting for the third season.

  • @neillindgren8992
    @neillindgren8992 Рік тому +4

    I’ll say that lithoids does let you harvest minerals instead of food from livestock. They also can be handy secondary species in a multi-species empire with their extended habitability range. It seems more like a C tier than F tier DLC.

    • @schwingedeshaehers
      @schwingedeshaehers Рік тому +2

      Especially with robots as main species, DA lithoids can be interesting, 90 % base habituially (20 normal, + 50 lithoid, +20 cyborg)

  • @williamschubert4819
    @williamschubert4819 Рік тому +5

    I love lithoids mechanics and their shipsets, and much rather them than necroids, except I love the necroids shipsets. Nemesis is likely the only DLC I'll never get.

  • @matthewshields
    @matthewshields Рік тому +1

    I wish each species type had multiple ship sets that reflected different ethics.
    Note: I do know this would take a lot of time and resources but I feel it would make the galaxy far more diverse than just adding new portraits.

  • @danielwage5595
    @danielwage5595 Рік тому

    Super helpfull, thanks.

  • @art-games6230
    @art-games6230 Рік тому +18

    This is a really great video idea, I want too get some of these when the next discount is here(anyone knows when it is?) and I need some help with choosing 😂

    • @MontuPlays
      @MontuPlays  Рік тому +9

      Well, have I got good news for you! There is a sale on right now (check out the pinned comment)

    • @art-games6230
      @art-games6230 Рік тому +1

      @@MontuPlays thank you a lot!

  • @2MeterLP
    @2MeterLP Рік тому +4

    I like Nemesis. Even if I dont become the crisis, often an NPC empire does, which gives me lots to do in the mid to late game. Burning down a devouring swarm and saving the galaxy after they took over a quarter of the galaxy was one of my favorite playthroughs ever.

    • @williamsjm100
      @williamsjm100 Рік тому

      Agree, it is always fun to hunt down a "crisis aspirant"...

  • @azuredream23
    @azuredream23 Рік тому

    Do you have any plans to make any videos of the DLC combinations you have made? I would like to see those.

  • @derokomaha
    @derokomaha 5 місяців тому

    ever since galactic paragons released and i played with my friend that owned it i cant play the game by myslef any more being able to choose your leader perks is such a good feature i cant play with out it

  • @CuratorFoxy
    @CuratorFoxy Рік тому

    I'm waiting for the next ''How to ship build & the current meta'' With montu xD

  • @antoineroca1690
    @antoineroca1690 Рік тому

    I'd love to have seen the differencial with the previous ranking (as a form of conclusion maybe), but sadly I can't use these nice advices as I have them all.

  • @user-zx6fg9lv4d
    @user-zx6fg9lv4d Рік тому

    btw, I bought the Galaxy Edition Upgrade during the sale for the complete collection but still haven't found the promised spider portrait. Was it a limited feature back in the days, a bug or I should somehow activate in my Paradox account?

  • @voodoowoodpecker4320
    @voodoowoodpecker4320 Рік тому +1

    It's interesting though that Gestalt's Council Nodes will absorb Destiny traits of some event-sourced Paragons like the Caretaker. If they would add a few dozens of such paragons, then those Nodes can get pretty powerful. Although, I would still prefer unique roles for Gestalt's Civics

    • @WRanger87
      @WRanger87 Рік тому

      They really need to do a brainstorm session on what the drawbacks of a gestalt consciousness could be, because they’re just so simple and efficient now, it feels like you’re playing less of a game.

  • @XiagraBalls
    @XiagraBalls 7 місяців тому

    Thanks for this. Have been playing Stellaris on and off for a couple of years now and have never downloaded a DLC. I was wondering what they could offer after coming across a Star Trek version of Stellaris.

  • @shaunmackie2868
    @shaunmackie2868 Рік тому +3

    Just bought the £99 bundle. Don’t regret it.

    • @ripvanwinkle2972
      @ripvanwinkle2972 2 місяці тому

      what is your summary of the experience now that you’ve had time to experiment with it?

  • @KeytarArgonian
    @KeytarArgonian 24 дні тому

    I got a cheap bundle including Utopia, leviathans and Plantoids when plantoids was first released, and honestly it has kept me busy for this long 😅

  • @chrisxd146
    @chrisxd146 Рік тому +2

    Whenever I play a civilization style game I always play through the base game first to learn the core mechanics before delving into the additions made by the DLC. What it usually boils down to (at least for me) is that the base game provides a complete experience where the DLC add flavor (i.e. similar mechanics, different style).
    For Stellaris, Utopia should not have been locked behind a $20 DLC. When playing through the base game without Utopia it honestly felt unfinished/rushed, as of I was playing through a game with the skeleton in place and nothing else. The amount of content this one DLC added turned the game from a husk into one of the best experiences I've ever had playing a 4x game.
    It's honestly a bit jarring how expensive some of the DLCs are compared to overall content they add to the game. $8 USD for a species pack seems a bit ridiculous considering it's mostly just cosmetic. Sure you get some traits added in, but the value for all of it falls in the range of $2 USD - $3 USD. Paradox are essentially saying each species pack adds the equivalent of 1/3rd the content that Utopia or Overlord adds when that's not even close to being true.

    • @williamsjm100
      @williamsjm100 Рік тому

      If you have a child who likes Pokemon you will understand a diminishing returns to investment problem that makes Stellaris with all DLC look like a bargain...gotta buy them all...

  • @therealpyroland
    @therealpyroland 10 місяців тому

    I just bought everything during steam summer sale in a bundle. pretty sure it was around $160 or so USD for all of it. worth it in my opinion.

  • @marcosmauricio7805
    @marcosmauricio7805 Рік тому +4

    Meanwhile here I am, watching this even though I already bought them all.

  • @jsr9617
    @jsr9617 Рік тому +5

    I like Apocalypse higher than C, probably B. If I didn't have it, I'd feel like I was missing out on some really cool features of the game. I use at least one thing from Apocalypse heavily every game (titans); the others are more situational.

    • @JH24821
      @JH24821 Рік тому

      Same for me. Titans are fun. Colossus can make conquest less of a hassle and I always liked the mid-game Marauder threat. But I do agree it can be situational based on preferences.

    • @jsr9617
      @jsr9617 Рік тому +1

      @@JH24821 I remember swearing big time at the screen the first time the Great Khan emerged and jumped me, but pushing him back and defeating him was very satisfying.

    • @JH24821
      @JH24821 Рік тому

      @@jsr9617 That sounds awesome! The feeling when you're fighting with everything you have against the Khan (who directly borders your empire) and then carve out out a well-deserved victory is so satisfying.

    • @fredhurst2528
      @fredhurst2528 Рік тому +1

      Since I have it, I can't imagine the game without marauders.

  • @mnyoda6771
    @mnyoda6771 Рік тому +3

    I am in shock you put humanoids in c-teir above so many others. To each their own but gah dayum

    • @Sanvone
      @Sanvone Рік тому +1

      Probably because of Masterful Crafters Civic. It is still meta-pick for multiplayer. Also Clone Army origin I think? I don't agree with his choice but I think that is his reasoning.

  • @timothypeterson4781
    @timothypeterson4781 Рік тому +13

    I'd be curious to hear if Montu's adjusted his opinion of the leader/council structure for gestalts now that he has actual hands on experience rather than just theory crafting. While they can't be perfectly balanced there are a few things that helps gestalts. All their councilmen are all nodes, none of them are "leaders" (except your core) so they can focus purely on council benefits for the council and leader benefits for their leaders. Immortal (though that was addressed.) Their council is always full with 5, so they don't start with a few then gain experience, they always are gaining experience and are never lost. They don't need to expand their council seats, and some other more minor bonuses.
    While I'd agree that at the high end individuals are probably better I think the gestalt opinion was a bit pessimistic.

    • @virusproofficial1086
      @virusproofficial1086 Рік тому

      Gestalt Council is 10x more boring while also being weaker than normal empires

    • @timothypeterson4781
      @timothypeterson4781 Рік тому

      @@virusproofficial1086 But it's really not. (I can't speak to the boring as that's subjective.)

  • @blahmaster6k
    @blahmaster6k Рік тому +9

    I cannot stand for this disrespect for Lithoids. They have some of the best synergy for necrophage and subterranean, and have a very unique gameplay style.

  • @Disobeysociety
    @Disobeysociety Рік тому

    Been watching your videos for a few months now. Over a few thousand hours on the game. I’d say this is accurate except I believe megacorp is an S tier, and it should be NERFED but maybe for another video.
    Keep it up, you make great content.
    ps. I got The Galatron a few days after megacorp release, lucky me.

  • @wowclassic1145
    @wowclassic1145 Рік тому +1

    Frankly I enjoy leaders in gestalt playthroughs much more than bio. You lose paragons and customizable council positions but you gain more streamlined and less RNG leaders. Starting with 5 slot council is huge for agendas. Not only do your agendas run much quicker than bio, you don't have to spend 40 years or so of your play through unlocking your council slots. You also don't have to worry about planning out your leaders from the start based on your end game civics. And on that note you don't have to choose between a good civic with a bad council position and a bad civic with a good council position(also is it just me or are their WAY too many mono-governor council positions?) Your council nodes also will only ever start with and gain council traits something that's major early rng for bio. All your other leaders as hive you know can be completely focused on their assignments whereas with bio you are juggling who is gonna be council focused and who can be assignment focused. Oh and your nodes basically mean you have +4 leader capacity compared to bio.
    As far as customizable council positions go frankly I don't understand why gestalts don't have customizable nodes. If they want to keep the "council nodes" then what they can do is add specialized node types to the various civics with a council agenda to change one node position. They could still have restrictions on which nodes they apply to(ie a bonuses to navel capacity only applicable to one of the deviance suppression or expansion node which I believe are the Admiral/General nodes).
    Paragons? Too much rng. I got Nasuz Demetor in one of my spiritualist playthroughs as my first renowned and it was amazing. The strategic resource discovery procs just like the basic resource one(fyi, basic resource seems to proc on finishing the survey of an object while the research deposit discovery seems to only have a chance to proc on full system survey completion). Never saw him first again and he's useless outside of the extreme early game.
    tl;dr; Gestalt leaders are far more powerful early game, less rng affected and require significantly less planning effort making it a strong and chill experience. I'd put it in A tier for gestalts though B tier is probably more appropriate for the loss of "flavor" with the new leader stuff, I just don't care for that extra "flavor" as much as others(probably)

  • @bunnybootsink9258
    @bunnybootsink9258 Рік тому +3

    Sells discounts don't happen for Stellaris DLC until 2 years out now. You will be lucky to see Aquatics on sell before November at the end of this year. That said, it looks like I'm going to be on a DLC drought for the game since the last two DLCs are a lot of let down and still have lots of issues mechanic and bug wise.

    • @gerddergaertner5071
      @gerddergaertner5071 Рік тому

      U can buy it reduced from steam key Sellers

    • @bunnybootsink9258
      @bunnybootsink9258 Рік тому

      @@gerddergaertner5071 That is grey market. I generally don't trust those sites because me and a few friends have been burned more than enough times by those sites.

    • @Sanvone
      @Sanvone Рік тому

      True. Been on standby for Aquatics DLC and they still haven't seen as big of discount as previous DLC.

    • @schwingedeshaehers
      @schwingedeshaehers Рік тому

      ​@@bunnybootsink9258there are legit ones (I think humble bundle and gamesplanet), but I know what you mean (and the privlcs reduction there is often not do massive)

  • @jamiegladwin
    @jamiegladwin 6 місяців тому +1

    I wish they would include all the graphics here as cut scenes in the game.

  • @TheDrexxus
    @TheDrexxus Рік тому +10

    I agree with most of this, but for me, Megacorp, Overlord, and Nemesis encapsulate most of what my playstyles revolve around. They are the most FUN for me. I love making Megacorps and spreading branch offices all over the galaxy. I love subjugating my neighbors as vassals and adjusting what they do for me via overlord, using fancy federations with them from the federation DLC, and eventually becoming Galactic Emperor.
    All of that is my jam and I feel like Stellaris wouldn't be very fun without all that.
    Alternatively, I find Toxoid and Ancient Ruins to both be rather boring. Relics and minor artifacts are features I rarely interact with. 90% of the time I just use my minor relics on whatever that button is called that gives you a chance of getting a fallen empire building. Doing digsites is kind of annoying and you don't really get much of anything for it most of the time except minor artifacts which, again, don't do anything but roll the dice to see if I get a useful fallen empire building.
    Toxoid I had high hopes for, but was ultimately just really disappointed with it. The end decision choices are also pretty bad I think. I would've liked to keep all the mechanics as they were and gain the toxic god ally, but you can't, you either have to betray them or throw away half your mechanics. It's silly honestly.

  • @0_Body
    @0_Body Рік тому +1

    What would you rate the
    Starter Pack & Ultimate Bundle that is on Steam?
    A bonus 10% off but some items aren't discounted as of this comment

  • @ariha2717
    @ariha2717 6 місяців тому

    I agree with everything other than apocalypse. I believe it is a must and a game with out it just isn’t fun late game.

  • @WTF_Oscar
    @WTF_Oscar Рік тому

    Hay Montu can you do a replaying campaign with the Republic from Star Wars?

  • @icefire5799
    @icefire5799 9 місяців тому

    must have bought the game at some action because i could bulid titans at my first play through i do have espionage to what did i buy😅
    i have all the s tier once did they base some package on this video i might have bought?

  • @Vasel57945
    @Vasel57945 5 місяців тому

    i plan to get the lithoid pack because the portraits look cool imo

  • @aaronfine734
    @aaronfine734 Рік тому

    You actually dont need federation and megacorp to build ecumenopulas worlds if you go with the relic world origin or if you get the rubricator world then you can turn yhe into ecumenopulas worlds

  • @kajetan9906
    @kajetan9906 Рік тому +1

    Even that I have all Stellaris DLC I'm still watching this out of curiosity

  • @staorus4047
    @staorus4047 Рік тому

    Honestly, the advisor voice for aquatics alone is worth buying! I love me a scurvy scallywag!

  • @maxrander0101
    @maxrander0101 Рік тому

    lol for me its the next one to come out i own them all and like the game enough that any more added dlc will make it better the next time i do a playthrough

  • @bigloser5104
    @bigloser5104 5 місяців тому

    One thing that I despise about aquatics (spoilers for here be dragons start ahead) is that past how overpowered here be dragons is, the young dragons while being very powerful (If you have resources to spare), if the big boy dies because one of your allies decides it's a good idea to try and fight a neighboring fallen empire and the empire takes their anger out on you and your big armada gets destroyed which had the big dragon you can't make the cool dragon thing that is the main reason you did this start anymore, no message saying anything like "lmao your big dragon is dead" just gone

  • @tacticalturtlez4906
    @tacticalturtlez4906 Рік тому +1

    Honestly, I disagree with aquatic’s position. I’ve managed in a number of runs to get +2k alloys a month and +1k food by using anglers and catalytic processors, using ocean paradise and the agrarian trait. It’s a DLC that does require you to take a bit from it, but the aquatic trait can be used with most portraits and you can use whatever ship set. I’d say it’s B tier minimum for its price, but strictly from play, I’d say A or S tier.

  • @primykins106
    @primykins106 Рік тому +8

    Glad to see the species packs at the bottom. I cant do with how full my galaxies get and it messes up my xeno-compata*_CRASH_*
    *[Is forcibly removed from the room through the nearest window]*

    • @championsgaming1
      @championsgaming1 Рік тому +3

      *defenestrates* (yes there is a word for throwing yourself out a window)

    • @10011110011
      @10011110011 Рік тому +5

      Ah, a fellow defenestration enjoyer

    • @primykins106
      @primykins106 Рік тому

      Every day's a school day 🤣
      It scares me that it's an action common enough to require its own word though

  • @10011110011
    @10011110011 Рік тому

    Voidborn lithoids with their shipset is the best RP species. You are basically thr crystal entities

  • @TimeyWimey.
    @TimeyWimey. Рік тому +1

    Hard disagree with lithoids. The announcer for the species is the best one in the game and worth the price alone imo.
    Also flying around as asteroids looks neat to me, just wish there was a special ship/weapon that allowed you to crash asteroids into enemy planets. Maybe as an army ship that does damage while landing(?)

  • @Andy_S79
    @Andy_S79 Рік тому

    I would switch Nemesis instead of Federation in the A Tier, Nemesis spice up every session, fighting the crysisys or the empire, or bee the empire and fighting the rebels. It adds simply more to the game than Federation.

  • @cobaltofdoom
    @cobaltofdoom Рік тому

    On overtuned - really easy to avoid your leaders getting snipped by only engineering pops OFF capital

  • @nicholasjacome341
    @nicholasjacome341 13 днів тому

    Anyone know when there will be a sale on Stellaris and it's DLC?

  • @J4MM1E2
    @J4MM1E2 Рік тому +1

    Not sure I agree that humanoids is better than the other species packs, certainly not 2 tiers better. I think lithoids play significantly differently that they are the best of the human, plant, rock packs. I've not played paragons yet so I can't judge it but I suspect it doesn't belong up there with utopia as that is a very high bar. I think your preference in playstyle for diplomacy is colouring your choices a little too much here montu. Not everyone wants to form clubs with their neighbouring empires, some of us want to conquer or kill them in new and interesting ways :D

  • @ianmurray2340
    @ianmurray2340 Рік тому

    Always buy when the game and dlc is on sale. some of them are NOT worth the price at full price but heavily discounted it is.

  • @NIGTHMERER
    @NIGTHMERER Рік тому

    Just realised that there isn't organic ships for player to use, only the scourge has them

  • @PaulthePhilosopher2
    @PaulthePhilosopher2 Рік тому +2

    Unconvinced Paragons belongs at S tier. Staring at leader and council screens is time not actually playing the core game. Getting the same old special leaders every game will get old.

  • @justinpuzin5120
    @justinpuzin5120 Рік тому +1

    I disagree on Apocalypse, it needs to be in A if not S tier. I find it absolutely essential for the late game to help reduce lag.

  • @MaxHaydenChiz
    @MaxHaydenChiz Рік тому

    If they updated lithoids and plantoids to work like aquatics so that you could use any portrait, would that change your opinion by much?

    • @MontuPlays
      @MontuPlays  Рік тому +2

      sure, they'd be in C tier. But then I'd need to rearrange things to spread the DLC into five tiers again!

  • @SUPREMACY_ARTEMiS
    @SUPREMACY_ARTEMiS Рік тому +1

    There's 2 dlc's I would want to try (Toxicoid and Paragons) but I play on console and they have not been released yet on console. Including for some major updates such as the one that improves the mechanics of psionic species (3.6 ) which allows better bonuses for psionic and easier psionic ascension.

  • @avnblaa7283
    @avnblaa7283 5 місяців тому

    Monty can u make stellaris music tier list i need to know if u r for real

  • @ScorpioneOrzion
    @ScorpioneOrzion Рік тому +2

    24:00 it is still good for hives/machines

    • @MontuPlays
      @MontuPlays  Рік тому +2

      That's mostly base game content. It doesn't really add anything for hives other than doubling the number of perks and letting you pick two thirds of the veteran classes (no destiny traits, no paragons, etc.)

    • @ScorpioneOrzion
      @ScorpioneOrzion Рік тому +2

      @@MontuPlays the last verteran class you already have 5 of at the start of the game (technicly 4, but your ruler gets it at level 4).

  • @victorvaleriani162
    @victorvaleriani162 Рік тому

    all of them at once!

  • @BayBerry1337
    @BayBerry1337 Рік тому

    I bought Lithoids just for the Lithoid advisor voice and all the rock puns. Best $8 I have spent on a game imo

  • @johnwheatley1550
    @johnwheatley1550 4 місяці тому

    Aquatics: "A hydrocentric ascension perch..."
    I see what you did there

  • @makutateridax4788
    @makutateridax4788 Рік тому +2

    I'm a little shocked that Lithiods is so low on the list. They don't need or use farmers at all early to mid game.

    • @wowclassic1145
      @wowclassic1145 Рік тому

      I was excited about that prospect and then I hit like year 20 in my first lithoid game and was like "why does it feel like I don't have any pops? ...Oh right...". If you conquer, raid or buy other bio slaves that defeats the purpose of going lithoid to avoid food and it's like admitting defeat to me. You would also have to override pop growing on each world since lithoids get prioritized everywhere due to habitability(which annoys me enough in broken shackles that I console to replace any lithoids I start with). Building robots is great but that leaves hive stuck a bit.
      If there was ever a version of stellaris in the future where pops weren't everything I'll revisit them.

  • @joshuaghozeil8061
    @joshuaghozeil8061 Рік тому

    Dumb Q: when did mega corps get there anglers civic?

  • @beaglejack2023
    @beaglejack2023 Рік тому

    Great tier-list. For those on limited budgets I encourage following it. I will say if you have the money (and right now is the best time for deals apparently), that the full experience with all DLCs really improves the replayability and provides the comprehensive experience, much like the Total War: Warhammer series

  • @Kossagubben
    @Kossagubben Рік тому

    Funny, I really like the idea of being a living space stooone

  • @metheguy1232
    @metheguy1232 Рік тому

    me, owning every DLC already: as yes this is important information for me

  • @StarboyXL9
    @StarboyXL9 Рік тому

    Which one should you buy next? The next one that comes out ofc!

  • @Bondonb
    @Bondonb Рік тому

    I love you, Montu. But there are entirely way too many ads in this video.

  • @jessblues848
    @jessblues848 Рік тому +1

    Me watching this owning all the dlc's *nods head*

  • @icefire5799
    @icefire5799 9 місяців тому

    time for an update

  • @LaughingBat
    @LaughingBat Рік тому +4

    Lol List starts with Lithoids in F tier when for me it is tied with Toxoids for the species I've probably gotten the most out of lol.
    I love the lithoid trait and even when I'm not playing a lithoid I usually include lithoid empires in my games.

    • @boguinator
      @boguinator Рік тому +1

      I stopped playing when Toxoids came out but lithoids are on of the dlcs I used the most. Obviously there are better ones but I would put Lithoids in like tier A to me

  • @JoannaHammond
    @JoannaHammond Рік тому

    I had some money lying around and hadn't played stellaris for ages, so I bough them all (ouch.) Still the game is much better than I remember with all these DLC's.

  • @JohnyWashtube
    @JohnyWashtube Рік тому

    Hey, can you cover Galactic Doorstep origin? With one of those new legendary paragons that can appear after opening gateway you should have easy start. Since it is 20k fleet early and easy way to vassal others. I also find out that you can save right before the gate opens and than you can just reload the save until you get it since it is not predetermined as L-Cluster is.