He said, “There is no pain-free path. Pain is an essential, irrevocable component of lived experience. The only way to not feel pain is to not be alive.” Very deep.
refreshing,I started an unplanned journey two years ago my life was changed in irreversible ways. So painful and unwanted was this change of life. Dark I was a Mom without my children. Never had I fathomed being here swimming in pain discomfort scared bewildered at where I was now.I am alive though, still breathing thinking missing still feeling this stark unfamiliarity running through me,I had to be born again.I had to die inside and start from the very being.A child in me was born.I allowed this process I just said yes in my heart and the road to healing was puzzled together piece by colorful piece by me instead of before me.
This guy rocks so hard. he is the kind of psychologist you ACTUALLY want. I left the field because of all the fraudulence, incompetence and the disdain the mainstream has for Depth Psychology. It's so refreshing to see a young professional speak from this perspective.
@@joshfranklin9941 I hate how his questions are always off centre. By off centre I mean that he always asks from a very personal perspective and not what a great majority would be thinking or asking. The only thing he does well for the most part is let the guest talk. It’s also clear to see the interviewer side a sort of unruly bias towards his interjections and opinions
I often feel like qotes and sayings are presented like a factual truth or fasit. And we're all seeking the same when we're looking for the meaning of life, itvsounds like. When in fact for example the sentence the meaning of life probably have almost as many answers as people you ask. Unfortunately we live in a materialistic, cold, egoistic world where most people are terrified of standing out. They don't even have rhe balls to say what they want or think because it's different from the rest of the herd. If it makes sense. It's difficult to explain in English when my native language is Norwegian. I find your interpretetation of the meaning of life very great. It tells me you're a good, caring person. Thank higher Powers there still are people who in fact care more about other people than a career, status, money and all of that most people care about.
This boils down to living for something beyond yourself. I think that’s part of the reason religion is so prominent in society. It gives people something to live for beyond themselves.
To give of yourself without thought to the self is to be able to give freely and fully. What ever you give has more value to the receiver than it does to the giver.
I discovered Orion on this channel and have listened to maybe 40 hours of his channel since then. Orion has healthy solutions for men in an unhealthy world.
They need it. It's on a fast path down. It's so sick, once good men become unrecognizable. On a level that runs the world. It didn't go bad, it's the Short Season.
Yep me too! I've listened to so many hours of Orion's stuff, i can't even count that high 😂😂, and every long form interview i see of him, he says at least 1 thing that changes or upgrades my perspective on life, he's truly a blessing to us all
No, he does not. He is not a resolved man, he is grifting and exploiting vulnerable young men, and/or needs to check himself as it may be that he is projecting his own trauma responses as prescriptive advice for others who really do actually need love and support.
Thanks Mark for introducing Dr. Orion Taraban, I'm a psychology student at university and love your channel (and now psychacks). Seeing well educated and inspiring people brings great diversity and opens my eyes to new perspectives on YT.
This guy is such a 180 from your typical guests who can barely sit up straight or even still through the interview . This guest seems very intelligent and knowledgeable and I enjoyed listening to his points of view of certain topics . I can say that I completely agree that our lives in general and everything around us is a miracle , it doesn’t take a wild event for that . Keep up the great interviews ! I love this channel
I love this man. Sometimes I I feel awe when I realize that people can be so intelligent and well spoken. I really enjoy him and the education he’s laying down. Seems honest which gives me all the feels!
@@BulkernatorKerb Agreed. Very dumb quote. It takes adjustability to be able to adjust to anything- whether it's functional or not. Someone who is well adjusted is VERY healthy by some metrics. I can't help but wonder if the quote is mistranslated or misunderstood from Krishnamurti's native language or something.
It is indeed a dumb quote, due to the following: 1. It needs a strawman, since it negates an unknown (non-existent for all intents and purposes), assumption that doesn't make much sense to begin with - being well adjusted to society is a measure of health ??? 2. As an individual, locates the problem (whatever the problem is) in the group consisting of a vast majority, rather than the individual, and does so based on some personal ideas of morality (not being personal wouldn't make much difference either) 3. What does that have to do with the price of tea in China? The quote probably made sense and had merit in the specific context it is taken from, but as just the quote, without the context, in its own right, it's bollocks
@paradigma101 It makes sense in a way that when society is based on a toxic system (capitalism) that puts profits before people and a narcissistic ideology (neo liberalism) that spits on empathy because it costs money and money is god, so narcissism (self interest, destroying others and the habitat) is the norm,.which is the case in western society, the quote actually makes a whole lot of sense. The denial of this (in the hope of "winning" or "progressing" in this rigged game) is quite delusional aka "no meassure of health". Toxicity isn't very healthy.
“If it hadn’t gotten that bad, my life would be much worse today.” Ohhh, this hit me so hard…as someone who was finally diagnosed with BPD at the age of 28…thank God for DBT and Marsha Linehan, for my therapists who did not give up on me! I have now two sons and I use my skills every day and I teach my sons. This guy is so so complex! I just love him!
“I slept and dreamt that life was joy, I awoke and saw that life was service I acted, and saw that service was joy.” My favorite of all. Understanding who we are, as Orión put it, is key in living a life in gratitude and service. So profound! Good talk!
So everyone decides for themselves what the meaning of life is? So Hitler’s meaning of life is just as good as everyone else? Why do we know we shouldn’t torture babies? Because we are all created with some level of morality, or a set of laws that are placed into the heart of every human. Who put that law into all of our hearts? God. Without God, you arrive on your answer, which is to say, “make up your meaning of life.” The creation never decides its purpose, the creator does.
@@vegasguydoingitlive3381 I would think you like the idea of god because it gives you something to live for that is beyond and outside of yourself (and maybe a fear of death). I’d be interested to know if religion became more important, less important or stayed of the same importance in your life after the birth of your son (I’m assuming that’s your pfp, disregard that question if not lol). Last, killing babies is wrong to us because humans evolved to be social creatures. It’s only wrong because it feels wrong to most people most of the time.
@@vegasguydoingitlive3381 I like how people use Hitler as a comparative analysis tool... lol. Hitler didn't elect himself. He hacked people's minds using words, sound, and dialogue cadence. The devil can only offer you Hell, it takes YOU to get there. And we're not created with some level of morality at all. There have been studies done on this. You arrive as a total blank slate. Life is totally nature vs nurture.
I think Orion should do more of this type talking on his channel, I find his shorter form content harder to watch and I enjoy how much more relaxed he seems in these.
I love these videos . I’m in that finding the real me. Being my real self journey. Work, gym and watch videos like this all day. I was on top but life happens then I had to start back over. I’m 60% back to where I was. This time I’ll be even better. Every successful person fails. If you don’t fail then you’re not trying. Thank you for these videos. They’re helping a lot of people more than you know Mark.
All he is trying to do is understand the human psyche better, and then explaining what he has discovered. Interesting interview, intellectual curiosity and learning, including from others, is what makes us grow as humans.
Guys like this make money directly off of people's insecurities about exactly this, that they're living life the "wrong way" As though life is able to be objectively quantified lol
This was a good conversation. The quotes mark threw at him and the responses were insightful and thought provoking. Not sure why so many people are negative on this guy. His insight and thoughts are way better than most of the drug addicted burnouts that we see here on swu.
It's very weird isn't it? It's like people like seeing the train wrecks more than the people trying to give help to avoid becoming the train wreck. I think it makes people feel better to see someone in a similar or worse position. It makes them think, "I'm not the only one," and it normalizes the situation to a degree. But Orion says, "Here is the problem and here is how to fix it," and that puts responsibility on the individual and many don't want to believe that they are responsible for their own predicament. Unfortunately, I've seen this in person. Often times, it's best to speak once and only once. If the person wants the change, he/she will then seek you out. Otherwise, let them be. Some have to learn the hard way.
"pain is the gift nobody wants" - Orion. There's so much to think about on this one. Great discussion. I find it hard not to share with others I know suffering but so many are closed to change. They'd rather walk away than have the hard talk.
Mark, thanks for all the Jim Rohn quotes! All the other quotes were gems, and Jim's quotes are the diamonds among them. Was just chatting with someone today about how brilliant and full of heart he was, a simple farm boy from Idaho. Great format of using the quotes to open up each piece of the conversation. Well done....loved it! Intelligent episode.
Orion is very appealing in every in most aspects. His communications skills are very sexy to to a women who appreciates good sense with out the unnecessary manipulate jargon. Men are to be respected.
Im one of those people who will stand up for what is the truth and justice. Idont care if I lose friends and family. Ive just went threw this for the last 5 yrs. Im not a follower. God is the truth. And I live by his word. Im not religious, and dont go by mans word. I now love myself , and Im very happy.
The meaning of life is just to be alive. It is so plain and so obvious and so simple. And yet, everybody rushes around in a great panic as if it were necessary to achieve something beyond themselves.
People have mixed feelings about Orion, but I followed the entire conversation. He does know his stuff. If you get him Good, & if you don’t it’s still all Good. I think he’s super intelligent 🤘🏻
The essence of human existence lies in the profound concept of love and the noble act of extending assistance to fellow individuals as they navigate the complexities of life. His personality shines... ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
What an insightful conversation about the depth of human experience and self-discovery! It's crucial to embrace all facets of ourselves, including the shadows, for true growth and understanding. Understanding that life's meaning lies in the richness of experiences rather than in a single, elusive answer is truly liberating. 🌟
He is so true, people learn from pain. To much pain is bad but for a person to train through it will make them a stronger better person. If humans can learn this, I believe it a very important key to living a better life.
Lol. That seems like a possibility that this is his therapist. I've never heard Mark talk and share and interact so much with anyone like he does with this guy. Lol. Who knows
The part where he discusses about how difficult/easy a task should be reminds me of the following quote by Albert Einstein: "One should not pursue goals that are easily achieved. One must develop an instinct for what one can just barely achieve through one's greatest efforts."
This guy is so smart and I love listening to him. Unfortunately he doesn’t understand ice. Ice floats because it’s less dense and more full of air. Great talk. Thank you.❤
Interviews from the brightest minds, to those dosed, damaged, and detached. One of the best and most useful interviews, language and thought I can connect with. Have him back.. again.
He's so right, my ex was such a self righteous person because she was a teacher and felt like she could do no wrong. She constantly harassed the people who she felt wronged her and caused so much pain and suffering to others instead of moving on with her life.
I never thought it was particularly complicated. Meaningful relationships, meaningful work, respect yourself, serve God in all things. And don't expect perfection, like ever. ;)
This conversation between Mark and Orion made my brain light up with fireworks of thought. Loved the reason why the Greek Gods were jealous of us mortals! Great, great stuff!!! Totally understand why Mark is very familiar with your channel! Fascinating mind you have there, Orion.
Why don't you do an insert where he talks about his own life, own heartbreaks, experiences etc? Would be interesting to hear what real-life experiences led to these insights.
I dont understand why people are talking shit about this guy. He's an intelligent man. He fully explains the quotes given to him, sometimes uses psychological examples. I feel that you guys are afraid of intelligent conversation. It's just a bit lengthy.
@@IHTPOD He never claimed to be God. He give context to situations. What you do with that is up to you. Quite frankly, it's mostly whymen complaining and it's because of his views on relationships. Many whymen only know how to criticize. They can't tell you what the actual solution is. And "pee see" culture is ruining society because people get mad when the truth is told.
@@IHTPODjust because he can have in depth comments on philosophical topics? On some level many people think they have things figured out however in reality no one really knows whats going on, i mean the general consensus is that we are flying around on a rock at incredible speeds revolving around a fireball in outer space. So who is to say? But does it bother you that he can come up w a seemingly logical answer to some of humanity's deeper issues?
@@andrewrahn7489 I only answer to andrewrahn7488 - you didn’t make the cut - feel free to put Senator Taraban on a pedestal- I don’t give a damn if you think he’s a genius
very in-depth interview. your channel itself is about the meaning of life. every story on here can be learned from. I love what you're doing for our planet. I'd love to sit down and speak with you. on or off camera. keep up the amazing work!
What he said about "anesthetizing snares" was spot on and that's a great term for these modern addictions. Pain has always led people to addiction, especially emotional pain and generational trauma. In the past we knew who they were - drunks and drug addicts. Now addiction is so much easier and normalized.
The intelligence take has many problems. Intelligence often arises from obsessive behavior and rumination coupled with a good memory, curiosity and even bravery. But the problem is that complex thought can have many confounding variables like difficulty concentrating, being hyper-aware, difficulty sleeping, difficulty relating with other people or even being understood by them. Also, intelligence is not the ability to fall into good outcomes by brute force. You'd need to be amoral, and manage to bypass any circumstance, no matter how inpractical, bypass all the chaos and inumerable patterns in the world and somehow herd them to your advantage reducing any luck element to zero. We are not Gods. Intelligence is many things: like the ability to create complexity, to simplify it, to see patterns, to configure them, to be inquisitive, to be creative, to be experimental, etc. There are so many possible sides that could be worked with that could display what we call intelligence but forcing profitable outcomes is just one of those dimensions. It would be hard to not call an incredible painter intelligent, or even the guy that decided to spilt the atom, but the first might have died in hunger and latter opened room for the atomic bomb. Well... Is then the smartest person the one that did the least damage and the maximum amout of good? Who is that person? A kindergarten teacher? Could be. But it would seem simplistic to not call the other guys smart even if they also reaped cathastrophy. Intelligence is overvalued for sure, specially because it's confused with success in life. Which is dubious considering the amount of depression, drug habits, bad decisions, etc. It's a coin toss. Better be average/normal to succeed in life.
The only way I started getting any kind of real success in my workplace was when I decided to let them think that I am dumb, and it worked like a charm. It’s incredible how vicious people can be when they think that you think you’re better than them in anyway, even if it’s not true. Perhaps even specially so.
To me how I measure smart/intelligent if people who have taken risk and being accountable for the risk. This is the opposite of Academia. Which is based on bureaucracy and only judge by their academia peers. A carpenter is judge by their customers not by sophisticated academia nonsense.
Great that you've been able to oversimplify the problems of the world. Disneyland is a poor analogy. The majority of the world spend their days just surviving, looking for food, consistent shelter, and a path to tomorrow.
I preferred their separate interviews; but this was ok. Orion has been on SWU several times and all are fantastic! It was frustrating at times when Orion was interrupted and unable to finish his thought. James is admittedly a talker and Orion is a great listener who also has a lot of valuable insight to share.
@@karenfryberger4260Yes, a whole lot of borrowed wisdom. I suspect that many people don't read and especialy not certain literature, so they wouldn't know any better, but i find it rather annoying how someone can take other people's work, spin it to mask the theft, and sit all over the internet pretending to have integrity.
@@thematriarchy2075 Well-founded suspicions and altogether well said, if I may use the same confirmation that you gave me for my earlier comment, for which I thank you.
"When you expand the conception of self, then your behavior begins to look more and more like service to others. But it's really not. It's really a service to a higher more expansive conception of self" - incredibly powerful
That's true. The first quote. The meaning of life in the end comes down to your own interpretation. Your choices of surroundings, experiences, risks, joys and pain etc. The meaning of life once you've learnt to embrace it. Comes down to your own meaning. I believe, ... somewhat. Pretty cool hey. So make wise decisions people and you'll be ok.
I'm always leary of people who preach make wise decisions. Every one of us has made decisions in our lives that were not wise. The unwise decisions help us to make the wise decisions.
@@prodbyfrank74 I don't pretend to speak for @thematriarchy, but someone else alluded to the problem with the OP's comment: the vast majority of people in the world are suffering from poverty, war, famine, disease. They're not in a position to make "wise decisions and be ok" or chose their surroundings, experiences, risks, etc. - they are just trying to hang on to see another day. Pondering the meaning of life is a luxury when you're barely surviving.
@muganzimarvin5818 I've noticed a trend where people nowadays just say things regardless of if it makes sense or can be substantiated with facts. And when you ask them to explain themselves, they say nothing. Because in that moment, they realize their comment had no merit to begin with.
@@lauraabeysinghe9321 Actually, like you just did, they reply with a comment that has nothing to do with defending their first comment. Instead the comment is usually an ad-hominem aimed at me. Thanks for proving my point.
"Meaning" by definition is what is meant by a word, text, concept or action. If we take life as a concept, then the meaning of life is quite obvious: you are just meant to survive, and pass your genes to enable the survival of your species. There is really nothing more to life when you think about it, that applies to all living beings, and not just humans. And it perfectly fits what he said around 7:35: "... if there is a meaning to life, it needs to be experienced or approachable at any given place an at any given time...".
You don't have to agree with everything this guy says or his rational approach to everything (which can be weary to listen to if you value a more emotional based discussion) but he's obviously an intelligent dude and it's good to listen to people of all walks of life sharing their own personal view on the human experience.
He said, “There is no pain-free path. Pain is an essential, irrevocable component of lived experience. The only way to not feel pain is to not be alive.” Very deep.
refreshing,I started an unplanned journey two years ago my life was changed in irreversible ways. So painful and unwanted was this change of life. Dark I was a Mom without my children. Never had I fathomed being here swimming in pain discomfort scared bewildered at where I was now.I am alive though, still breathing thinking missing still feeling this stark unfamiliarity running through me,I had to be born again.I had to die inside and start from the very being.A child in me was born.I allowed this process I just said yes in my heart and the road to healing was puzzled together piece by colorful piece by me instead of before me.
this reminds me of the guest 'Tyrone' who had a interesting relationship with pain. that interview definitely resonated with me.
This is so true..
lived causes pain, living can cure it.
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I am glad that I can watch this for free
Right. Glass half full human. I know you are a lucky person because this one sentence says it all
@@ssing7113I could say the same for yourself. I have an insight to your reasoning
This guy rocks so hard. he is the kind of psychologist you ACTUALLY want. I left the field because of all the fraudulence, incompetence and the disdain the mainstream has for Depth Psychology. It's so refreshing to see a young professional speak from this perspective.
He helps us keep hope alive.
You gotta hate the interviewer Mark but Orion is a legend
@@kylesapphire2537what’s wrong with the interviewer?
@@joshfranklin9941 I hate how his questions are always off centre. By off centre I mean that he always asks from a very personal perspective and not what a great majority would be thinking or asking. The only thing he does well for the most part is let the guest talk. It’s also clear to see the interviewer side a sort of unruly bias towards his interjections and opinions
Hello has other ways to make money which is good for an individuals honesty, I recommend income streams 😊
I can't express how helpful Orion is for my understanding of the world
He had open my eyes in so many ways
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This man provokes thought and all other sorts of feelings. He makes people uncomfortable. Brilliant!
Says user4577899😂
It only provokes thought in people that don't know how to think for themselves.
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You mean Mark, or Orion?
Those people on the streets screaming and preaching about Jesus and Judgment Day also make me uncomfortable as well.
I could listen to Orion talk for 8 hours and not get tired. Such insight and wisdom is so refreshing.
Being useful to your fellow man, is the meaning of life. Honesty, humility, love and peace. For me that's the trick
I often feel like qotes and sayings are presented like a factual truth or fasit.
And we're all seeking the same when we're looking for the meaning of life, itvsounds like.
When in fact for example the sentence the meaning of life probably have almost as many answers as people you ask.
Unfortunately we live in a materialistic, cold, egoistic world where most people are terrified of standing out.
They don't even have rhe balls to say what they want or think because it's different from the rest of the herd.
If it makes sense.
It's difficult to explain in English when my native language is Norwegian.
I find your interpretetation of the meaning of life very great.
It tells me you're a good, caring person. Thank higher Powers there still are people who in fact care more about other people than a career, status, money and all of that most people care about.
@@leneo1731 Thank you
In my experience, being "useful to your fellow man" results in being used. I totally agree with your second statement though.
This boils down to living for something beyond yourself. I think that’s part of the reason religion is so prominent in society. It gives people something to live for beyond themselves.
To give of yourself without thought to the self is to be able to give freely and fully. What ever you give has more value to the receiver than it does to the giver.
I discovered Orion on this channel and have listened to maybe 40 hours of his channel since then. Orion has healthy solutions for men in an unhealthy world.
They need it. It's on a fast path down. It's so sick, once good men become unrecognizable. On a level that runs the world. It didn't go bad, it's the Short Season.
Yep me too! I've listened to so many hours of Orion's stuff, i can't even count that high 😂😂, and every long form interview i see of him, he says at least 1 thing that changes or upgrades my perspective on life, he's truly a blessing to us all
I've casually listened to both. More on Orions's Psyc-hacks. Certainly someone wanting to better society.
No, he does not. He is not a resolved man, he is grifting and exploiting vulnerable young men, and/or needs to check himself as it may be that he is projecting his own trauma responses as prescriptive advice for others who really do actually need love and support.
@@gSWG3RHe does offer very healthy solutions. You may need to watch more of his videos! He could miss with something but I haven't seen it yet.
Thanks Mark for introducing Dr. Orion Taraban, I'm a psychology student at university and love your channel (and now psychacks). Seeing well educated and inspiring people brings great diversity and opens my eyes to new perspectives on YT.
This guy is such a 180 from your typical guests who can barely sit up straight or even still through the interview . This guest seems very intelligent and knowledgeable and I enjoyed listening to his points of view of certain topics . I can say that I completely agree that our lives in general and everything around us is a miracle , it doesn’t take a wild event for that . Keep up the great interviews ! I love this channel
You should check out the James Sexton interview. Cool guy.
I love this man. Sometimes I I feel awe when I realize that people can be so intelligent and well spoken. I really enjoy him and the education he’s laying down. Seems honest which gives me all the feels!
*ALL* the feels : )
My favorite guest. He’s changed my life with the knowledge I’ve applied from his words.
“It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society”- J. Krishnamurti
Dumb quote
@@BulkernatorKerbneeds a hug
@@BulkernatorKerb Agreed. Very dumb quote. It takes adjustability to be able to adjust to anything- whether it's functional or not. Someone who is well adjusted is VERY healthy by some metrics. I can't help but wonder if the quote is mistranslated or misunderstood from Krishnamurti's native language or something.
It is indeed a dumb quote, due to the following:
1. It needs a strawman, since it negates an unknown (non-existent for all intents and purposes), assumption that doesn't make much sense to begin with
- being well adjusted to society is a measure of health ???
2. As an individual, locates the problem (whatever the problem is) in the group consisting of a vast majority, rather than the individual, and does so based on some personal ideas of morality (not being personal wouldn't make much difference either)
3. What does that have to do with the price of tea in China?
The quote probably made sense and had merit in the specific context it is taken from, but as just the quote, without the context, in its own right, it's bollocks
@paradigma101 It makes sense in a way that when society is based on a toxic system (capitalism) that puts profits before people and a narcissistic ideology (neo liberalism) that spits on empathy because it costs money and money is god, so narcissism (self interest, destroying others and the habitat) is the norm,.which is the case in western society, the quote actually makes a whole lot of sense. The denial of this (in the hope of "winning" or "progressing" in this rigged game) is quite delusional aka "no meassure of health". Toxicity isn't very healthy.
“If it hadn’t gotten that bad, my life would be much worse today.”
Ohhh, this hit me so hard…as someone who was finally diagnosed with BPD at the age of 28…thank God for DBT and Marsha Linehan, for my therapists who did not give up on me! I have now two sons and I use my skills every day and I teach my sons.
This guy is so so complex! I just love him!
“I slept and dreamt that life was joy, I awoke and saw that life was service I acted, and saw that service was joy.” My favorite of all.
Understanding who we are, as Orión put it, is key in living a life in gratitude and service. So profound! Good talk!
" I awoke and saw that life was service. I acted and behold, service was joy"
~ Rabindranath Tagore ~
The meaning of life is to give life meaning
So everyone decides for themselves what the meaning of life is? So Hitler’s meaning of life is just as good as everyone else? Why do we know we shouldn’t torture babies? Because we are all created with some level of morality, or a set of laws that are placed into the heart of every human. Who put that law into all of our hearts? God. Without God, you arrive on your answer, which is to say, “make up your meaning of life.” The creation never decides its purpose, the creator does.
@@vegasguydoingitlive3381 feeling smart? - it passes, just give it time.
@@hwb-zalpachIt’s not being smart, it’s just exposing the obvious for the benefit of the ignorant.
@@vegasguydoingitlive3381 I would think you like the idea of god because it gives you something to live for that is beyond and outside of yourself (and maybe a fear of death).
I’d be interested to know if religion became more important, less important or stayed of the same importance in your life after the birth of your son (I’m assuming that’s your pfp, disregard that question if not lol).
Last, killing babies is wrong to us because humans evolved to be social creatures. It’s only wrong because it feels wrong to most people most of the time.
@@vegasguydoingitlive3381 I like how people use Hitler as a comparative analysis tool... lol. Hitler didn't elect himself. He hacked people's minds using words, sound, and dialogue cadence. The devil can only offer you Hell, it takes YOU to get there. And we're not created with some level of morality at all. There have been studies done on this. You arrive as a total blank slate. Life is totally nature vs nurture.
breakdowns can become breakthroughs. how beautifully put!
How banal… Sorry, it’s been said a million times before.
And yet not everyone has heard it Mr know it all.
Orion has a brilliant way of communicating deep truths.
Barz !!!!! Everyone needs to hear this and have this on repeat, dissect and analyze every single aspect of the conversation. This is vocal art 🖼️ 🗣️
15:38 "The cost of living your own life is the acceptance by others"
A very nice point.
Yes facts 🙏🏽
But u gain ur authentic self
what doe s it mean??
“Courage is just a fear of being a coward.” How can he come up with such excellent quotes so quickly?👏
Narcissism
I think Orion should do more of this type talking on his channel, I find his shorter form content harder to watch and I enjoy how much more relaxed he seems in these.
Agreed. I think he’s writing a book which would be awesome
I agree. I tried to watch it but only liked his longer interviews/discussions.
Orion is the most optimistic, sincere, productive UA-camr. It's contagious.
I love these videos . I’m in that finding the real me. Being my real self journey. Work, gym and watch videos like this all day. I was on top but life happens then I had to start back over. I’m 60% back to where I was. This time I’ll be even better. Every successful person fails. If you don’t fail then you’re not trying. Thank you for these videos. They’re helping a lot of people more than you know Mark.
The layers of this interview is mind blowing. I really got a lot out of it and grateful to hear it, thanks for sharing ‼️
So nice to hear Dr. Taraban talk about these kinds of different topics. Thank you!
All he is trying to do is understand the human psyche better, and then explaining what he has discovered. Interesting interview, intellectual curiosity and learning, including from others, is what makes us grow as humans.
Wow what a generous soul surely he wouldn't try to shill $500 'sessions'
If he is, it's because he understands his value. How much did you pay for this video?
@strictlydiesel8305 genius. Instead he should do it for 20 bucks an hour, for people who are only half assed listening and willing to introspect
@@joshb6993 yeah man paying $500 for redpill nonsense disguised as "self help" is surely the pinnacle of introspective thought
@@strictlydiesel8305 good, thanks for that dieselboy. If I need any life tips I'll be in touch
Side note: Love how his blue eyes echo the color of his suit. Art!!
He's brilliant, always enjoy listening to this guy. Thanks Mark.
Orion is truly a gem! He’s phenomenal with metaphors in order to get everyone to understand
Gotta love the variety on this channel!
People spend too much time worrying about the meaning of life. Life is life. Live the best you can.
Exactly
Well said.
Guys like this make money directly off of people's insecurities about exactly this, that they're living life the "wrong way"
As though life is able to be objectively quantified lol
Life has its own agenda; we can't know what it is, we're just a part of it for a while.
Well, we put meaning to everything else... Existence is arguably the biggest concept you'll ever experience. It has meaning and should have meaning.
Agree or disagree with his conclusions, dude thinks deeply and I feel he speaks in good conscience
Fascinating!! I can listen to Orion speak for hours, the words and his voice combined have a great vibration😎
Only through half the video and already I can say it is one of the best interviews I have watched 🤯 thanks for making it 🙏
"The only way to not feel pain is to not be alive." YES! Absolutely!
37:50 "You can't always get what you want"....
In my head: "But if you try sometimes, you get what you need....ya ya..." 🎶🎶😆
I'm glad i read your comment because i was going to post the same😂. I have that Rolling Stones song in my head also. Have a nice weekend 🤘✌
😂😂😂😂
Mick Jadm
Great rolling Stones song sister I want this to play at my funeral just like the movie The Big chill
@@MichelleJacquelineBustamante I hear ya sista
This was a good conversation. The quotes mark threw at him and the responses were insightful and thought provoking. Not sure why so many people are negative on this guy. His insight and thoughts are way better than most of the drug addicted burnouts that we see here on swu.
It's very weird isn't it? It's like people like seeing the train wrecks more than the people trying to give help to avoid becoming the train wreck. I think it makes people feel better to see someone in a similar or worse position. It makes them think, "I'm not the only one," and it normalizes the situation to a degree. But Orion says, "Here is the problem and here is how to fix it," and that puts responsibility on the individual and many don't want to believe that they are responsible for their own predicament.
Unfortunately, I've seen this in person. Often times, it's best to speak once and only once. If the person wants the change, he/she will then seek you out. Otherwise, let them be. Some have to learn the hard way.
The bromance here is strong 😂
"pain is the gift nobody wants" - Orion. There's so much to think about on this one. Great discussion. I find it hard not to share with others I know suffering but so many are closed to change. They'd rather walk away than have the hard talk.
That's the title of a book by Philip Yancey and Paul Brand.
Mark, thanks for all the Jim Rohn quotes! All the other quotes were gems, and Jim's quotes are the diamonds among them. Was just chatting with someone today about how brilliant and full of heart he was, a simple farm boy from Idaho. Great format of using the quotes to open up each piece of the conversation. Well done....loved it! Intelligent episode.
Orion is very appealing in every in most aspects. His communications skills are very sexy to to a women who appreciates good sense with out the unnecessary manipulate jargon. Men are to be respected.
I simply LOVE this man and I could listen to him endlessly.
Im one of those people who will stand up for what is the truth and justice. Idont care if I lose friends and family. Ive just went threw this for the last 5 yrs. Im not a follower. God is the truth. And I live by his word. Im not religious, and dont go by mans word. I now love myself , and Im very happy.
100 percent
The meaning of life is just to be alive. It is so plain and so obvious and so simple. And yet, everybody rushes around in a great panic as if it were necessary to achieve something beyond themselves.
Alan watts ❤
Thank you Mark and Orion, great talk!
This man changes my life every time
People have mixed feelings about Orion, but I followed the entire conversation. He does know his stuff. If you get him Good, & if you don’t it’s still all Good. I think he’s super intelligent 🤘🏻
That can be said about Jim Jones, David Koresh and Donald Trump to Kim Kardashian and Kanye West just to name a few.
Well said man. He is really smart.
@@Kotaro1326 What a nonsensical comparison.
The essence of human existence lies in the profound concept of love and the noble act of extending assistance to fellow individuals as they navigate the complexities of life.
His personality shines...
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Always a banger when its Orion. Great episode as always.
What an insightful conversation about the depth of human experience and self-discovery! It's crucial to embrace all facets of ourselves, including the shadows, for true growth and understanding. Understanding that life's meaning lies in the richness of experiences rather than in a single, elusive answer is truly liberating. 🌟
Thank you Mark I’ve been paralyzed from the waist down for 6 years. Orion gave me the strength to get up and turn off my computer!
Here's wishing you success!
It's a MIRACLE!!!!
hahahaha, they both need ointment for that burn now js
He is so true, people learn from pain. To much pain is bad but for a person to train through it will make them a stronger better person. If humans can learn this, I believe it a very important key to living a better life.
We just unmasked Mark’s therapist.
$500/hour therapist.
He only gives 100, i heard him say one time.@@amydrew2907
I was thinking the same thing
Not necessarily (Could be someone else).
Lol. That seems like a possibility that this is his therapist. I've never heard Mark talk and share and interact so much with anyone like he does with this guy. Lol. Who knows
Thank you for bringing this thought provoking & eloquent individual into my life, Mark. I loved the format of this video. Bravo! 👏
Orion is a cool guy, lone wolf and self developed. It takes time to learn and gain wisdom.
The part where he discusses about how difficult/easy a task should be reminds me of the following quote by Albert Einstein: "One should not pursue goals that are easily achieved. One must develop an instinct for what one can just barely achieve through one's greatest efforts."
My SWU book arrived today! I can't wait to get home tonight so i can see it. So extremely excited ❤
Incredible, love this speaker, Mark, their thoughts on life, very sensible, thoughtful, profound.
Orion has a very special place on the interviewer's heart 😂
Orion has a great knowledge to teach men and women alike. He’s doing a tremendous public service in my view
I am a follower of Orion and admire his work. I enjoyed this episode thoroughly. Thank you for doing this episode.
I freaking love this dude…. Geeeeeshhhhh .. i do generally listen to these interviews multiple times.
This guy is so smart and I love listening to him. Unfortunately he doesn’t understand ice. Ice floats because it’s less dense and more full of air. Great talk. Thank you.❤
I have learned more from your interviews with Orion than I did from 12 years of public schooling 🤙
I freaking love hearing this guy talk. Absolutely fascinating 👏
Orion & James are absolute gold. Among the best guests on this channel that have brought with them the strongest content
Thank you. World needs these truth words.
This is the content that’s helping us evolve so quickly.. this is really good stuff. Thank you🙏
Wow I finally found someone who knows of the book “a course in miracles”. Made my day sir, thank you
Thanks for the recommendation ❤
Cults have been formed around the book
@@amydrew2907 kinda like the bible?
@@Alexxx492 yes
Love this interview! We get to know Mark better as well as his guest. I could listen to the 2 of them for hours
Interviews from the brightest minds, to those dosed, damaged, and detached. One of the best and most useful interviews, language and thought I can connect with. Have him back.. again.
I’m assuming this man falls into the category of the dosed damaged and detached
@@teahcrew why? because he has a different way of thinking and seeing life compared to what you perceive as normal?
Paid comment
@@D4no00 hardly. Because he’s an arrogant ass who’s this a pseudo intellectual
@@D4no00 and I’m assuming my opinion isn’t your normal either
He's so right, my ex was such a self righteous person because she was a teacher and felt like she could do no wrong. She constantly harassed the people who she felt wronged her and caused so much pain and suffering to others instead of moving on with her life.
I never thought it was particularly complicated. Meaningful relationships, meaningful work, respect yourself, serve God in all things. And don't expect perfection, like ever. ;)
i agree on all points. except i never really believed in god. and still dont rlly.
Serve who??? 😂😂😂
Ecc 12:13 The end of the matter; all has been heard. Fear God and keep his commandments, for this is the whole duty of man.
@@fredflintstone8048 no
Allahu Akbar!
One of my favorite reoccurring guests on this channel
This conversation between Mark and Orion made my brain light up with fireworks of thought. Loved the reason why the Greek Gods were jealous of us mortals! Great, great stuff!!! Totally understand why Mark is very familiar with your channel! Fascinating mind you have there, Orion.
The razors edge in book and both films is an epic tale
Why don't you do an insert where he talks about his own life, own heartbreaks, experiences etc? Would be interesting to hear what real-life experiences led to these insights.
I dont understand why people are talking shit about this guy. He's an intelligent man. He fully explains the quotes given to him, sometimes uses psychological examples. I feel that you guys are afraid of intelligent conversation. It's just a bit lengthy.
Politician vibes - con man energy - nobody has all the answers - you will learn that
@@IHTPOD He never claimed to be God. He give context to situations. What you do with that is up to you. Quite frankly, it's mostly whymen complaining and it's because of his views on relationships. Many whymen only know how to criticize. They can't tell you what the actual solution is. And "pee see" culture is ruining society because people get mad when the truth is told.
@@IHTPODjust because he can have in depth comments on philosophical topics? On some level many people think they have things figured out however in reality no one really knows whats going on, i mean the general consensus is that we are flying around on a rock at incredible speeds revolving around a fireball in outer space. So who is to say? But does it bother you that he can come up w a seemingly logical answer to some of humanity's deeper issues?
@@andrewrahn7489 I only answer to andrewrahn7488 - you didn’t make the cut - feel free to put Senator Taraban on a pedestal- I don’t give a damn if you think he’s a genius
very in-depth interview. your channel itself is about the meaning of life. every story on here can be learned from. I love what you're doing for our planet. I'd love to sit down and speak with you. on or off camera. keep up the amazing work!
This guy is actually amazing.
What he said about "anesthetizing snares" was spot on and that's a great term for these modern addictions. Pain has always led people to addiction, especially emotional pain and generational trauma. In the past we knew who they were - drunks and drug addicts. Now addiction is so much easier and normalized.
I'm so glad Mark is inspired by Orion because I find him fascinating as well. TY!!!
His suit brings out his eyes!
The intelligence take has many problems. Intelligence often arises from obsessive behavior and rumination coupled with a good memory, curiosity and even bravery. But the problem is that complex thought can have many confounding variables like difficulty concentrating, being hyper-aware, difficulty sleeping, difficulty relating with other people or even being understood by them.
Also, intelligence is not the ability to fall into good outcomes by brute force. You'd need to be amoral, and manage to bypass any circumstance, no matter how inpractical, bypass all the chaos and inumerable patterns in the world and somehow herd them to your advantage reducing any luck element to zero. We are not Gods.
Intelligence is many things: like the ability to create complexity, to simplify it, to see patterns, to configure them, to be inquisitive, to be creative, to be experimental, etc. There are so many possible sides that could be worked with that could display what we call intelligence but forcing profitable outcomes is just one of those dimensions.
It would be hard to not call an incredible painter intelligent, or even the guy that decided to spilt the atom, but the first might have died in hunger and latter opened room for the atomic bomb. Well... Is then the smartest person the one that did the least damage and the maximum amout of good? Who is that person? A kindergarten teacher? Could be. But it would seem simplistic to not call the other guys smart even if they also reaped cathastrophy.
Intelligence is overvalued for sure, specially because it's confused with success in life. Which is dubious considering the amount of depression, drug habits, bad decisions, etc. It's a coin toss. Better be average/normal to succeed in life.
The only way I started getting any kind of real success in my workplace was when I decided to let them think that I am dumb, and it worked like a charm. It’s incredible how vicious people can be when they think that you think you’re better than them in anyway, even if it’s not true. Perhaps even specially so.
@@AntonioSerradella That's because you make them feel insecure. It's specially bad if they're your boss.
To me how I measure smart/intelligent if people who have taken risk and being accountable for the risk. This is the opposite of Academia. Which is based on bureaucracy and only judge by their academia peers. A carpenter is judge by their customers not by sophisticated academia nonsense.
Really enjoyed that conversation - thank you both
Politician Taraban will say “i get negative comments but I ignore them” - imagine if we all did that
out of all people you decided to quote a politician
@@zipporahh6744 ??? Politician Taraban is my name for this “Dr” - he has politician vibes
Why are you butt hurt over this guy?
This might be more impactful if you left out the politician part. It’s not my experience that those sorts are a trusted on anything ever. Lmao
@@wendylu7500 HE’s THE FUCKING POLITICIAN - you don’t even see his last name?
I'm so glad he is a repeat guest!!
Great that you've been able to oversimplify the problems of the world. Disneyland is a poor analogy. The majority of the world spend their days just surviving, looking for food, consistent shelter, and a path to tomorrow.
Thanks for "exposing" THIS. The western, capitalist, neo liberal bubble.
That's how it was for the majority of time. That is what humans evolved doing.
I preferred their separate interviews; but this was ok. Orion has been on SWU several times and all are fantastic! It was frustrating at times when Orion was interrupted and unable to finish his thought. James is admittedly a talker and Orion is a great listener who also has a lot of valuable insight to share.
His remarks about seeking and finding around 6 minutes in are straight out of Hermann Hesse's 'Siddhartha.' Highly, highly recommend that book
Indeed, a lot of borrowed wisdom...
@@karenfryberger4260Yes, a whole lot of borrowed wisdom. I suspect that many people don't read and especialy not certain literature, so they wouldn't know any better, but i find it rather annoying how someone can take other people's work, spin it to mask the theft, and sit all over the internet pretending to have integrity.
@@thematriarchy2075 Well-founded suspicions and altogether well said, if I may use the same confirmation that you gave me for my earlier comment, for which I thank you.
"When you expand the conception of self, then your behavior begins to look more and more like service to others. But it's really not. It's really a service to a higher more expansive conception of self" - incredibly powerful
That's true. The first quote. The meaning of life in the end comes down to your own interpretation. Your choices of surroundings, experiences, risks, joys and pain etc. The meaning of life once you've learnt to embrace it. Comes down to your own meaning. I believe, ... somewhat. Pretty cool hey. So make wise decisions people and you'll be ok.
It is a luxury to sit on the tube and write such a comment.
@@thematriarchy2075 can you elaborate I don’t understand your comment?
I'm always leary of people who preach make wise decisions. Every one of us has made decisions in our lives that were not wise. The unwise decisions help us to make the wise decisions.
@@prodbyfrank74 I don't pretend to speak for @thematriarchy, but someone else alluded to the problem with the OP's comment: the vast majority of people in the world are suffering from poverty, war, famine, disease. They're not in a position to make "wise decisions and be ok" or chose their surroundings, experiences, risks, etc. - they are just trying to hang on to see another day. Pondering the meaning of life is a luxury when you're barely surviving.
This has been a great guest! Thanks Mark.
I've tried listening to this for the past 3 videos, and I just can't. He is just so full of himself.
In what way? And please be specific.
This seems to be a 'you' problem.
@muganzimarvin5818 I've noticed a trend where people nowadays just say things regardless of if it makes sense or can be substantiated with facts. And when you ask them to explain themselves, they say nothing. Because in that moment, they realize their comment had no merit to begin with.
@@slylockfox85or because they don't need to give air to the fire you want to start.😅
@@lauraabeysinghe9321 Actually, like you just did, they reply with a comment that has nothing to do with defending their first comment. Instead the comment is usually an ad-hominem aimed at me. Thanks for proving my point.
50:03 "Pain is the gift that nobody wants but it's" a "necessity..." Great way to think about it. Nice work. Thanks.
That's actually a book by Philip Yancey and Paul Brand. ' Pain; The gift nobody wants. Look it up
Teraban is the best guest that channel has ever had.
By far!
Fabulous interview. So appreciative and grateful for the interview, My Gift of Today❤
Very thought-provoking and interesting. I love the quotes you brought up.
"Meaning" by definition is what is meant by a word, text, concept or action. If we take life as a concept, then the meaning of life is quite obvious: you are just meant to survive, and pass your genes to enable the survival of your species. There is really nothing more to life when you think about it, that applies to all living beings, and not just humans. And it perfectly fits what he said around 7:35: "... if there is a meaning to life, it needs to be experienced or approachable at any given place an at any given time...".
Yep, survive and if you survive long enough breed.
Am always taken by how the banal can be “repositioned” every 5-10 years and be viewed as brilliant. It’s a book publisher’s dream.
Thought-provoking! Loved it and listened more than once.
You don't have to agree with everything this guy says or his rational approach to everything (which can be weary to listen to if you value a more emotional based discussion) but he's obviously an intelligent dude and it's good to listen to people of all walks of life sharing their own personal view on the human experience.