How does a Steam game get the OVERWHELMINGLY NEGATIVE rating?
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
- We’ll, it’s certainly not by being great. But you don't get to 500 negative reviews unless people wanted to play your game in the first place.
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Footage used (that I didn't capture myself) in order:
Gollum Gameplay:
• I paid 59.00$ for this...
Sonic '06 Glitches:
• Glitches and Fails of ...
Beyond Good and Evil 2 2008 Gameplay Trailer:
• Beyond Good & Evil 2 -...
Doom Eternal Weapon Animations:
• Doom Eternal - All Wea...
Mobile Suit Gundam Zeta ep. 24
• Mobile Suit Zeta Gunda...
Poptheater Kickstarter:
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MyHitch Kickstarter:
www.kickstarte...
Kinetic Void Kickstarter:
www.kickstarte...
Kinetic Void Trailer:
• Kinetic Void Trailer
Tokaku's O2 Jam Video:
• The Death of the WORST...
Top Ranked O2 Jam Gameplay:
• [2016] MALAYSIA TOP RA...
Malice Gameplay:
• Malice 怨念 - Creepy Man...
Airport Simulator Gameplay:
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BEFORE YOU LEAVE THAT COMMENT, this video was finished the day Overwatch 2 hit Steam. And surprisingly, even though it doesn't come up in the script, the reasoning behind Overwatch 2's current review score is pretty thoroughly answered by the psychology we delve into here. I compiled the list in this video on July 12th, 2023, so it is naturally very out of date. Even though this video was never intended to be a "bottom 10" list, if you're curious, the the current list is surprisingly similar (as of January 30, 2024):
10. Construction Machines 2014
9. Jurassic Island: The Dinosaur Zoo
8. Kinetic Void
7. Spacebase DF-9
6. CoD: Modern Warfare II
5. Malice
4. Flatout 3
3. Overwatch 2
2. Airport Simulator 2014
1. Superpower 3
Also, to add a correction: For a game to receive the Overwhelmingly Positive rating, it needs to have at least 500 reviews in total, 95% of which must be positive. Overwhelmingly Negative requires 500 reviews with at least 81% negative. Valve doesn't actually publish these numbers anywhere, so they had to be sleuthed out by the community. The information I was working with was a bit outdated.
wow
Camwing wants to KILL all blizzard fans????
Fwiw, as an OW fan, I wish you covered OW2
Was wondering if it would show up in the video what terrible timing
@@camwing Yeah thats pretty par for the course for those reviews
“I find it to be a decent simulation” as the construction worker spins around eternally is beautiful
Well, I've never worked at construction, so maybe that's what they do.
@@heisenbachofficial9437 Can vouch, they do that. Not because they are flailing, just because they are paid hourly.
@@heisenbachofficial9437 That's what they do when they're on strike.
@@Are_you_eyeballing_me
Oh that makes sense, I'll know to salute any construction workers i find rapidly spinning and hope they get the rights they deserve
I assume them screaming "oh god help me i can't stop spinning" is a strike chant?
my brother confirmed that is exactly what a day at the construction site looks like. 10/10.
I really thought this video was dragging and lacking in humour, but then the six intermittently spaced fart reverbs happened and I was blown away. Truly the greatest comeback I’ve seen within a UA-cam video.
Blown away, huh?
I am reading your comment while on the toilet at work and it made me laugh out loud
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Can we get a timestamp on that
12:00
Who on Earth had the villain audacity to lock the OPTIONS behind 30 MINUTES OF GAMEPLAY
the super villain
Git gud
There's terrible media, then there's "so bad it's good" media. And then there's the lost, forgotten art of "so bad it's good and then loops around to being bad again"
I think that’s what TV Tropes calls “so bad it’s horrible”.
Sonic 2006 vs Sonic Boom?
@@imagiguard💀
Starwars Christmas special
Alien 3
16:57 IMO people vastly underestimate the issues around 'accepting offers of help from the community'. First you have your 'mythical man-month' issues. Opening the project up to community involvement either means (a) open-sourcing it - with all the overheads and licencing issues that involves, or (b) selectively inviting in people from the community and spending the time and effort to familiarise them with your codebase and field questions on how various things work which takes time away from coding. When you're low on manhours and budget in the first place, taking time to ramp up new coders can be an expensive thing to afford - especially if those coders might just contribute a few hours of code then wander off.
Is implementing community features/fixes without familiarising them with the codebase not possible? I know that some fixes might be impossible with how the game is designed but a lot should be bound to hit
@@theblinkingbrownie4654Depends on the fix. Low-hanging fruit might be okay. More complex changes are likely to need some handholding.
Also with the second option there are various issues- EVE Online actually does this “invite fans onboard for suggestions and fixes” method and Fredrick Knudson mentioned in his documentary that not only are these players typically super fans so they don’t represent the opinion of an average player, they also often continue to play the game and use their privilege to their own personal gain (more an issue in an online game like EVE but it could also lead to leaks so they can gain clout and whatnot). This is also not to mention that having an outsider dabble in your code can be hard to manage at best and actively dangerous at worst. It’s like inviting someone to come behind the counter if you work at a convenience store, it’s oftentimes just not a good idea.
@@ozzi9816 More like inviting them behind the counter of a bakery IMO. They might have plenty of opinions on cake, but that doesn't mean they know how to bake and frost one good enough to sell to the rest of your customers. And who knows, they may just burn down your kitchen if left unsupervised.
Generally it's a horrible idea to accept any outside "help" on a project.
Gundam enjoyer here: In the Gundam shows there's usually a sentence at some point along the lines of "piloting a mobile suit is like flying a brick through space" and I could be wrong, but I think Battle Operation leaned into that heavily when designing the game. They're supposed to be heavy and unwieldly, which is a huge point of most of the shows. Gundams are not the same as mobile suits, and are usually considered to be highly advanced technology, either lost to time and found again later, or newly developed by some weapons manufacturer.
I think this is why people consider it to be a "good Gundam game", while I cant speak for the gameplay, the servers are terrible
Walking Gundam encyclopedia here. I love the heavy feeling of piloting an old MS. I really hated GBO because of how clunky/janky it felt rather than the slow pacing. That and I don't like the setting of mashing MS from multiple eras together lol
@@STIR-FRIED-SUBWAY-RAT nah I'm just a stickler for like war specific MS you know? Nothing wrong with how it is, it's just not my thing. I know there's also battles like that occasionally but I remember not wanting to wait for something like that to pop up.
The gameplay is genuinely great, almost every negative review is just from the terrible servers that haven’t been fixed despite the multiple play tests.
I have plenty of experience with classic anime/manga and a very rudimentary exposure to Gundam..think I watched a few episodes of seed when it was coming out.
At the risk of opening pandora's box...what's the diff between a Gundam and a mobile suit? I thought it was literally Mobile Suit Gundam.
@@fvb7I thought the same thing for a while as well. mobile suits are standard and mass produced. Gundams are usually a one of a kind piece of highly advanced technology.
For my example, it would be like if during WWI someone showed up with an M1 Abrams (or something more advanced).
Mobile suit Gundam 00 is about four Gundam pilots fighting against the entire rest of the whole world.
(Anyone feel free to add more, theres a ton of people here already that Iknow for a fact understand it better than myself)
If you want to play funny bad games, which I do, you have to be very discerning. When you see a funny video about a bad game, it could very well just be that the creator sharing their suffering was amusing. There's a certain sense of when they're, perhaps secretly, enjoying themselves. These kinds of games are rare. Most bad games are not Rogue Warrior. Most bad games are Jurassic Island: The Dinosaur Zoo
And if you whant to play a very bad game you can play Overwatch 2
There’s a difference between bad and not fun and combining both makes a genuinely horrid title
so bad its good is a rare experience. pre patch yiik can do it, but with games its kinda hard to pull cause it has to not just be clumsy in story but has to have decent to good gameplay. i think the S.T.A.L.K.E.R series could be an contender. yah its the poster child of slav jank but its got a charm that is almost impossible to replicate. all in all so bad its good is far harder to pull off in gaming rather than books and movies/shows.
Edit: i think the worst thing a game or really any media is boring. Even trash like Jurassic Island: The Dinosaur Zoo is still an experience though absolutely shit.
bro i realized it was undertale from when he said 51124 dollars i gotta touch grass dawg💀
I thought "this must be either Stardew Valley or Undertale" so when he said "with help of his friends" I went "it's totally Undertale"
💀💀💀 brah dawg naaahh💀💀💀video gaming from ohio
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for me it's the gamemaker part
@@gl4dius4pple75bro is literally gaming 😂😂 we got video games before gta 5 😝
this video killed my dog and usurped my fathers throne
Zoinks!
This video killed my father... And r**ed my mother
this is the most random thing I've seen this day so far
don't stop, thank you
@@aloe7794 it was a review showed in the video
@@RalseiGaming oh I see
I just hadn't watched the video yet and this was one of the first comments to pop up, thought it was funny
"I've never seen a game where a sword has to recharge." Minecraft post 1.9
The Master Sword from Breath of the Wild/Tears of the Kingdom would like a word with you.
The thing about bad reviews, and this is true for just about any situation where reviews are relevant (restaurants, hotels, etc.): When someone has a good experience, they tell s couple people. When they have a bad experience, they tell EVERYBODY. On Steam, I think this means people will leave a bad review on a game they didn't like, but won't bother to leave a good review on a game they enjoyed.
Space base still hits hard after all these years. Double fine had put out the mediocre Massive Chalice and was branching out to try new things. Space base was super interesting and the development was going along nicely, I was there to play every update as it added something fun to the game. But then they released the game and gave us another one of their games as an "apology". it was one of their experimental titles that I never bothered with. It felt like an absolute kick in the nuts, came out of nowhere too.
Oh yeah, I absolutely understand the reception. Having no personal attachment to it, the disappointment is to be expected. The 3 hours I played were genuinely super enjoyable, but it did become pretty apparent near the end that the game wasn't even close to being finished. It really is a bummer.
check out a game called space haven
For someone who took the wagon at the end im still pissed off that this game isn't finished and pushed above the limit there iss omething special about it and even new games come and try to prey on this misfortune to attract people double fine are not only trash but also irresponsible .
As a kickstarter backer and negative reviewer of DF-9. That was the issue: The base gameplay loop was fun but you literally saw all there is to see in the game by the 3-5 hour mark
I think Massive Chalice was the last thing I ever backed on Kickstarter. I should've learnt my lesson after Firefall...
I think something to keep in mind as well is that people are not rating the quality of the game when they review it on steam, they are explaining why they do or do not recommend it. Steam does not have a 5 star rating system (for better or for worse), so you can't give a game a 3/5 and have it reflect on the store page directly. As such, the lowest "reviewed" games are really the least recommended games.
That definitely would've been a good addition to the intro. The simplicity of the thumbs up/down system Steam uses is one of the reasons so many people review games in the first place, since it doesn't really require a lot of thought, but it also doesn't provide a lot of detail. Most of the time, I think a negative Steam review carries a lot more weight than a positive one.
@@camwing Plus the number of meme reviews. The truly so-bad-it's-good games tend to have middling to positive reviews, because people give them "Thumbs up, literally perfect!" when the game is barely functional, the models are either ugly or ripped from the Unity store (or both), and so on
12:45 unspoken rule of gaming #1.4: always check for UIs in the 4 screen corners
I'm just gonna say it, I don't get the gamemaker hate. Yeah it's a software used by highschoolers but as you show you can make good games using it. Personally I love the software, lets me prototype dumb game ideas really quickly and I can continue game making as a hobby without having to learn a new IDE, which I would hate to while working full time. But like you can look up 'best gamemaker games of 20XX' and you'll see a lot of high quality games.
I think it's just because it's very approachable. Basically anybody can use it, which means people can very easily make some very bad games, so a huge percentage of the worst games on itch.io are built with GameMaker. Unity has a pretty similar reputation, but most of the best indie games ever made are in cheap or free engines. It's not about the tools, it's the way they're used.
@@camwing 100% this, Unity gets the same treatment, honestly the only reason I don't hate Unity is because it was the source of some really low quality but fun indie games from my childhood.
As someone who has used Gamemaker for almost two years now - it's just good software. If youre a solo dev and don't care about 3D it's the exact right place to be in or at the very least to start in. It's approachable, it offers you a metric shit ton of tools and approaches to every design problem and it has a wonderfully well-maintained wiki. Also it's still regularly updated. 10/10 would recommend. (Also Undertale, Hotline Miami and Katana ZERO were all made in Gamemaker, which is argument enough for me)
@@americantoastman7296 I believe Spooky's Jumpscare Mansion was originally released on it as well, using the Doom style of fake 3D.
fuckin Hyper Light Drifter (if I'm not mistaken), Nuclear Throne, FIGHT KNIGHT were made on it, Gamemaker doesn't deserve the reputation
Re: Kinetic Void. I've known the dev. The story of him releasing it from steam greenlight to finished product was because he was making less money due to the steam greenlight changes. It caused profit to go down so he just decided to release it instead. As for dev work, all of the work was done by contractors who had little to no communication with each other as the owner funded the game via his job owning a games store and was more of an ideas guy. This caused a lot of issues with say, sizes of windows on stations compared to sizes of ships, and a lot of technical problems.
They made a decent amount of money on it, way more than they should have, and the main guy cut and ran claiming the game being a success since it was profitable.
Wasn't O2jam also the game with a 14€ “battlepass” for songs that wasn't the expected 14€ a month and instead 14€ a day
DAMMIT, STOP BEING SO UNDERRATED CAMWING :(
I'M TRYING
@@camwingtry try but dont cry , i am 100% you'll make it some day
HOLY SHIT I THOUGHT THIS WAS LIKE A BIG CHANNEL, I COMPLETELY MISSED THE SUBSCRIPTION AMOUNT WHEN CHECKING THE COMMENTS.
Stop being so underrated, camwing, seriously.
dewd, i promise ull make it big one day, dont give up! : D
@@camwingTRY HARDER! YOU ONLY HAVE 25 K'S! I CAN WRITE THAT OUT EASILY (KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK)
13:10 "YOU WONT GET TIRED OF MY VOICE, WILL YOU?" Ahh character
That Simulator font is originally from Microsoft Flight Simulator. I remember my grandad played MFS 2002 way back when. Fun times. And, oh yes, subscribed.
24:17 i want to play a horror game that plays it completely straight except for Hanna Barbera sound effects now. Maybe a mod for Outlast or something
This is oddly high production value, keep it up my guy, I’m positive you’ll make it big
comes with no pumping videos out in a short span but yea i can tell or hope for growth his videos has quality!
@@M4TTYNHe's gained 15k subs in the last month so I'd say he's well on his way
comma abuse: small IQ
@@alysdexia silence pseudo intellectual
@@birdup1_2 exactly you, who withheld a needed comma
Worst part of the gundam game is the shading texture on the male PC's booty promising a truly luscious badonkadonk ripe for a slapping. And then you pan the camera and it's like he put a piece of cardboard down his trousers.
Oh man, Battle Operation 2. I've never been into Gundam, but I have a friend who very much is. He enjoyed the game on console and seeing it was coming to Steam brought it up wanting to play. It was set to have a network test weekend so three of us had it installed and were waiting when the time arrived. We couldn't log in. We waited another hour. Couldn't log in. A few hours afterwards they put out a statement regarding technical difficulties. The network test never happened. I was not at all surprised a few months later when I scrolled by it and saw the review score.
As for battle operation 2, I love the game. I have 366 hours ATM of writing this. The monetization isn't bad but the network sucks and it has an insane amount of mechanics and high skill cielling similar to that of a fighting game. The small tutorial is not enough to really show you how the game is like; to me it feels like a vehicle simulator mixed with a fighting game. The controls make sense but, you need to understand the 500 mechanics in the game, such as weapon switching, tackling, staggering, what weapons does what, custom parts, suit specific abilities, etc, etc. And there's alot of stats the game does not tell you such as suit recovery time after being toppled, or what each directional on a combo does, or how some suits have a melee priority (which basically means, can i hit this guy, or will i clash, or will he hit me).
I LOVE the game because my love for Gundam made me learn it and I tend to play simulator games (which is akin to this in terms of complexity), but it does a extremely poor job at explaining it to new users, and some these decisions you found perplexing make sense once you look into the thick of it. I wish the servers were functional and more people would play it, but most people's first match is just being murdered being constantly staggered and ultimately uninstalling after 4 hours of matchmaking.
I don't think it deserves to be the 8th worst game, but I think it has a lot of room for improvement.
Yeah, gbo2 is pretty great.
I think the first few days of disaster is what condemned the game to be the 8th worst game on steam, even after things went better a few weeks later, I guess the damage was already done for some.
But yeah, I also love gbo2
Nah the game is just that bad really. I played it for 60 hours during the first month. You could get suits that were just upgrades to some free suits in the gacha that would compete in the same cost like the Unit 4 and it's gacha only Bst variation, it was absolute pay2win garbage. The mechanics are fun when they worked, but so often the connection would get in the way there and some mechanics are just plain broken too, even in the tutorial I had trouble getting counters to work. Many mobile suits in the later costs are just there to feed people with lower level suits, all of those are also locked behind gacha, 0 attempts at balancing the higher level suits. There's 0 attempt at making the game good in the first place, the devs are too focused getting new suits out for the monthly gacha to balance any existing ones.
And that's all without mentioning how hard it is to get into a match. I like to compare this game to world of tanks with the monetization and pay2win turned even further up, only difference was I could atleast play the game when I wanted to, didn't have to wait up to 2 hours for a single match. Then there's also the issue of being unable to play with friends if you aren't the same comp rank. What were they thinking with that honestly, I couldn't join my friend for a casual match bc their comp rank was too high for me.
I got into gundam a few years ago and liked it so much that I watched most of the anime there is already, some even multiple times, but the game couldn't even hold me for a month.
@@De_kaid the game really isn't p2w, never spent a dime but I had a lot of fun and getting tokens is super easy; thought admittedly I avoided high costs since I enjoy early one year war suits more than the titular Gundams. I stuck to 500 and 300. but it sounds like you were having really bad connection issues. You can actually join if your comp rank is 2-3 difference and there's no limit on quick play; but if you can't connect to the room it'll give you the same stupid error you get for rank difference which is very infuriating. Regardless of anything else the game has the connection problems are really bad and it blows me away it was released like this after 3 network tests which were done a year before launch.
@@sanikku7359 getting tokens is super easy but that doesn't mean getting lucky in the gacha pulls is, most of the pulls will be garbage high level high cost suits anyways that you can't use, sticking to certain costs means you're locked out of the game until the matchmaking decides to give you maybe one lobby in your cost range, even then the balancing between suits is soooo bad.
and no, we had confirmed it wasn't network errors when trying to connect for a quick play lobby, it had just worked until the friend I was playing with had ranked up, after that we couldn't play together even in quick play. even if it were like that it limits your options for maps you can play to 1 or maybe 2 and the map rotation takes hours
@@De_kaid But Bst isn't in the same cost as the default Unit 4, and for all costs except 700 you can just buy genuinely good suits from the shop. I will agree that high lvl suits are generally garbage for no reason other than to pad out the gacha.
Thank you for the reverbed fart sound effects. It was starting to feel a little dry in the jokes department but the 6 farts really did wet it up.
“The 6 farts really did wet it up” brand new sentence
Daedelic (Who made gollum) is a very succesful studio with tons of great games under their belt. They got shut down because of poor management, not incompetence
Kinetic Void still hurts me to this day. I remember finding that game back in 2013 saw the flaws but loved the potential it had, just to come back 3 years later to a completely different game that took out the more interesting aspects to bad ship building and an even emptier space to travel. It'll always make me frown whenever I see it in my steam library.
I almost committed murder at 8:14
I found Spacebase of 9 randomly when I was a kid, and got my dad to buy both of us copies on our steam accounts when the game was in alpha (it was the first alpha game I ever encountered and I had to ask my dad what 'alpha' meant). I had a lot of the same experiences as you. I personally loved the game (got ~40 hours of playtime before everything being too repetitive kicked my 11year old ass). My dad hated it so much he only ever played it a couple of times, and only when I needed help getting a colony running smoothly. Crucially, I never looked it up online, and he did. Thats the biggest factor in wether or not someone likes that game.
Or maybe it's because you were a child, basically playing a demo without realising it.
I avidly play GBO2 (the gundam game) on console, and have to admit that the game is very hard to get into if you’re not a gundam fan. The control schemes, weird matchmaking, use of P2P instead of dedicated servers, along with a whole bunch more issues, make this game hard to play, let alone love.
My main reason for staying is that there is no game that even comes close, especially a Gundam game (most of them are either stuck on PS3 or kinda bad).
There is a UA-camr, flailthroughs, who calls this game a “frustration engine”, and he’s not entirely wrong.
Great vid man.
Speaking of Gundam, the first RPG card game is from a spin off of Gundam called SD Gundam Knight Montagari. Yes, Gundam is responsible for Triple Triad. It blew my mind when I learned that.
Idk why but this Raid "sponsorship" might be the funniest joke on UA-cam for me.
For the Gundam title, Armored Core VI: Fires of Rubicon (rolls off the tongue, I know) actually has a somewhat similar concept, except it executes it significantly better.
While there are a significant amount of reloads (the cooldowns you mention) on various actions, the game takes this opportunity to turn it into the gameplay loop by enhancing the movement capability. One moment you are chucking attacks at the enemy and getting them into a vulnerable state, the other you are dodging their incoming attacks until an opening is found.
But the reason AC VI can even afford do this loop is because the gameplay is generally a lot faster (even if you have a heavy slow build). :)
Havent watched the video yet but just look at tf2 now it doesnt seem that hard to do
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One of the best video essays I've seen in a while. This channel should definitely receive more recognition.
Given what you said about Spacebase DF-9, I think you would enjoy figuring out the many systems of Dwarf Fortress (which recently got a steam release with huge UI improvements and _official_ pixel art instesd of colored text or a community made tileset)
People will scream "keep politics out of video games" and accuse people online of "slacktavism" then down vote a game they have never played because 4chan told them too
People that say this have no media literacy, half the time their favorite game is some shit like metal gear
That has no correlation to politics, its just people blindly following what they think is thr best thing.
@@Unidentified_Entity6the Metal Gear series is a good game series with an amazing spin off, not everyone likes it of course but theres a reason it's popular and it's been popular long before the memes got to it.
The beauty of Bandai Namco is that it's made up of two companies: Namco, gaming legends who usually make pretty solid titles like Tekken or Pac-Man and have purchased other folks like FromSoft, and Bandai, who are really a toy manufacturer that spends the ABSOLUTE BARE MINIMUM on their video games and has been doing so since the Showa era. The Gundam game is just a continuation of their minimal budget shenanigans, where if they bothered to actually spend any money on their games they might be competent, but they farm out tiny budgets to the lowest bidder and you get hot garbage the majority of the time. To learn more about this, just check out the endless spew of garbage SD Gundam games for Game Boy...
6:00 the guy tried having his sentences not reference the subject when he shouldve, should work shouldnt it? but in this sentence it doesnt along with theirs. as a native u gotta fill in those blanks for it to make sense. similar to how i used 'it'
Instant subscribe 3 minutes in, it’s so refreshing to see a video that goes this in depth (into literally anything) these days when all I usually get recommended are click baity bullshit based on a tutorial I looked up 6 months ago. Like I said I’m only 3 minutes in but I appreciate the thorough explanation of how the ratings work and I don’t even use steam, but I am interested in everything there is to know about video games and this is normally the kind of stuff I’d have to google while watching, but you’re answering any questions before I even think them. Anyway this is just my overly caffeinated way of saying keep it up man, great job.
Ok 6 minutes in now, and I’m cracking up, this video is a masterpiece. “Like a bat out of……he heecck” (don’t worry I’m not going to do an insane live comment thread every few minutes as I’m watching) I’m just so tickled and delighted to be served this wonderful content out of what is usually a steaming pile of garbage. I love the wit on display here, and wish we could be real life friends.
"I've never seen a game in which swinging a sword has to recharge."
*cries in King's Field*
The irony of SPACEBASE DF9 is that, at the time, this was one of the biggest gaming scandals but if the game would've been released today, it would be just another drop on the sea of shit gaming scandals. Really goes to show just how much WORSE the industry has gotten.
"I have never seen a game where swinging a sword requires you to recharge..."
introducing Armored Core 6, one of the most highly acclaimed games of late
Here a big overwatch since 2016... That stopped playing around 3 years ago. The awful controversies around the company, the few updates and balance patches, the unhealthy meta that was trying to please both casual and competitive fans but didnt please neither, the awful monetization of ow 2 with the excuse of making it free to play and the promises of a complete multiplayer pve mode with new abilities that has just been scrapped are all factors of the incredibly bad reviews it got on steam. I loved the game when it came out, it was genuinely the most fun I have had with a shooter and I really wanted it to be a fun and competitive game that would have years at the spotlight but the awful decisions of the team and all the shitty things on the company itself have made me, just like 99% of the playerbase, leave the game with a sense of disappointment. A sad story and a perfect example of a game company having gold in their hands and fumbling the bag.
17:39 O2 Jam... this hurts. I loved the original game so much.
For anyone who isn’t a Gundam fan and wants clarification on what is or is not a Gundam or a Mobile Suit (because I see a LOT of people confuse the 2), here you go:
Mobile Suit- The standard mecha in every show. If it’s got at least 2 arms and 2 legs, it’s PROBABLY a Mobile Suit (abbreviated to “MS”). There are of course exceptions to this rule, such as the Zaku Tank (A big tank with the turret replaced with the top half of a mobile suit), Guntank (Different faction’s Zaku Tank), whatever the fuck is going on in G Gundam (the crazy Gundam show), or the Zeong.
Gundam- Either the name of a show, so things like “G Gundam” or “Mobile Suit Gundam” are the names of the anime, or a specific kind of mobile suit. Think of it like a brand. In basically every show, a Gundam is going to be more advanced in some way than what anyone else has. The specifics of what makes it special depends on the series. In the original the Gundam had better armor and speed than anything else, in Wing it’s the same. In 00 it’s the suit’s power source, in IBO it’s the AV system, in SEED it’s a combination of power source, operating system, and armor. The Unicorn, the Banshee, and the Phenex all do cocaine, etc.
Good luck with the _Florence Henderson: And The Nine Very Special Grains of Basmati Rice_ project! I will be following your updates closely, so I am expecting to see a great roadmap in the coming months :)
9:52 "...when swinging a sword has to recharge..." (side glance at Secret of Mana)
Though I suppose in SoM, you "can" swing, it just doesn't really do anything until it does recharge.
I guess the Master Sword in Zelda BotW might qualify to some degree as having to wait for it to recharge before being able to swing it again.
I was under the impression we all left terrible reviews on OW2 was because (in addition to concepts outlined in the video):
1. It's very, very funny
2. We love to hate the game -- 90% of memes talk about how much we hate it and are literally queuing up for another match
3. Blizzard releasing an already out game on Steam made it An Event, driving more people to review (because it's funny)
4. It was the first time there was community access to reviewing the game in the capacity Steam has (afaik) -- basically just reinforces the "This was an Event" + OW players love to troll Blizzard
Tf2 has done it
Just found your channel - dude, you deserve so many more subscribers! Some of the best video game content I've found on youtube, and your presentation style is funny and engaging. Looking forward to binge-watching every other video you've made and then falling into a deep depression as I wait for new uploads uhh uh I mean seeing what you put out next
"I have never seen a game in which swinging a sword has to be recharged" MY FELLOW HUMAN BEING UNDER THE SKY, YOU JUST SHOWED MINECRAFT.
You can spam click in Minecraft if you want, it just does less DPS
9:54 So you don't play Minecraft java edition huh?
I’ve just seen Camwing's Steam's 10 lowest rated games are honestly not that bad and nothing prepares you for this. I cheered, I shouted, I fist pumped the air, I cried, I stood and cheered, it’s absolutely everything you hoped it was going to be, and I can’t wait for you to see it.
6:40 i dont know if this is the original game but i remember playing this game with my cousin while i was a child in the early 2000s
its not too bad, we had fun back then.
the reason the dinosaur escaped from the fence was because you had no power on the fences,
Thanks for pointing out, im definately gonna play this game 😊😊😊😊
@@GameBoyyearsago just tried it, its buggy
@@nomadshiba well the game os open source now and i am learnin c programming so who knows maybe im gonna abke to patch the game by myself 😊😊😊😊
camwing will be a household name in 5 months
:grimace-grimace-face:
I can’t think of a single game where swinging your sword doesn’t cause it to need to recharge…
I have been looking for the game “Broken Age” for a while now but given that all I could remember was the art style and a bit of the first chapter I had a bit of difficulty. The MOMENT it was on screen I recognized it, so thank you. Imma go play it now ✌️
Twas mid ngl
Re: expectations, see also online restaurant reviews. I often check places to eat when travelling and find the top rated places are basic burger bars or similar. Meanwhile, the fine dining place down the road is at 4.2 out of 5, dragged down by "the music was a bit loud" and "slightly too much pepper for my taste"
15:37 the absolute whiplash I felt when my hometown of Sioux Falls, SD was named on screen was intense. I didn't expect that any game devs lived there.
Nice. I’ve gone to that Christian music festival Lifelight in Sioux Falls.
It's obvious there is so much research put into this vid, it's great keep it up!
Rip helldiver
Nah
The issue I had with Spacebase DF9 was the lack of proper tutorial. Maybe I just missed something, but it took me half past forever.
Played Gundam Battle Operation 2 on the PS4 since it first came out in Japan.
Quitting that game last year was among the best decisions I've ever made in my life. Bandai Namco and BB Studios can choke on it for their utter contempt towards effort.
Hello! I'm a big Mobile Suit Gundam fan, and I'm here to shed some light upon the magnificent turd that is Battle Operation 2(GBO2 from now on) on PC. But first some backstory: GBO2 is built upon GBO1, a PS3 game that was really bad, had horrendous FPS issues, was even clunkier. And the reason for that is because it was a rehash and reused assets (still used in GBO2 by the way, mobile suits, weapons, animations... Not mechanics tho.). The game it was rehashing was BB Studio's (the devs of the GBO games) Mobile Suit Gundam: Side Stories The Missing Link (GML for short). Its a somewhat fast paced singleplayer third person action game with gundams, you can play as either hybrid suits, melee-based fast bois and slow range based, if this sounds familiar is because it should, those are the 3 classes used in GBO, General, Raid and Support.
GML had hundreds of suits, each with their own loadout and not a single one of them played as clunky as GBO2 does. However, every single suit in GML gets their assets (which are pretty good by the way) for GBO and GBO2. I played Missing Link through an emulator and to be honest, I had quite a good time with it, it controlled great, it felt good to play even if it was kinda basic but it had all the Gundam goodness I liked! Makes me wonder why they didn't made a sequel, well the reason is because GBO2 exists, that damn gacha is being more profitable than making a game. Built on a ps3 engine. Reusing code from that era, still being updated, the netcode is a mess and the optimization is ass too specially on ps4, the pc version is better on that regard but the netcode is even worse somehow. The game is held by gum and paperclips...
I do in fact, enjoy GBO2 even if its a mess, though I've dropped the game a while back and have no plans to revisit it either on the PS4 or PC. Could it be better? Oh you bet. But the thing is it went too far on slow stuff, specially the extremely poor balacing on weapons like: the automatic rifles being peashooters, the meta revolving entirely on shotguns, laser guns and so that instantly stagger you to take you down with a melee combo. This is what happens when you reuse a whole game and repurpose it for something that wasn't made for.
UA-cam recommended this video to me. It's flippin' great !
The rythm, the humor, the actual analysis, everything is really nice and enjoyable... and interesting as well !
I'm subscribing :)
"This game killed my dog and usurped my father's throne"
*10 people forgot to shower*
DAMN
I played Gundam Battle Ops2 on PC and honestly, I liked the gameplay. But steam asked if I would recommend it and the answer is no, because with all the problems surrounding it, I find it hard to recommend.
I dont even mind the gacha mechanics. Its the fact that the game is obviously not made with PC in mind, and that I could spend over an hour trying to get a match to start.
Answering the question in the thumbnail is such a power move. Instant respect.
"I've never seen a game in which swinging a sword has to recharge"
Minecraft:
Also, there’s the troll reviews, which might matter a bit when it comes to smaller games.
9:49 "I''ve never seen a game in which swinging a sword has to recharge"
Really?
Guess you've never played any of the thousands of games with Stamina bars
And even with that aside, Armored Core has seen Melee have ammo _and_ cooldown at different points and it's been fine both times
*Several seconds with no other options however,*
Or Minecraft
Companies just shouldn't do early access. Expectations will never be met and any sort of finalizing will come across as "abandonment".
19:00 I despise always-online games so much. You can't even go to game settings without praying that the servers are working so the game can launch. It just makes servers bloated and slow for absolutely no good reason, and the day the company stops supporting the game, all servers shut down and the game becomes useless.
Really enjoyed this video. Good job! Just one thing though - you said you can see the lowest rated games on Steam by navigating to the steam store, sorting by "user reviews" and then scrolling to the bottom? That's like nearly 60,000 games isn't it? You must have been scrolling for days!
One thing that always makes me feel weird is when there's a game with mostly negative reviews, the reviews talk about the game as if it was horrible to play, and yet you're giving a positive review and you had fun. Not even in the same way as with some of these games where people were hoping for a good game or are sad to see its lost potential, but just games most people didn't like.
I get it’s a niche game but damn Gundam BO2 would be so positive if they would just do something about the servers, I don’t even mind when they’re slow or ass too terribly much it’s just the fact the game is commonly very literally unplayable.
10:08 It is called fake difficulty.
the range on "mixed" rating is so huge, that's a 29% gap.
I can't see why a game rated at 40% positive should get the same rating as one at 69% positive.
That's a huge difference.
Honestly there needs to be a sub category for when you hit 60% - 69%
This is why I don't release my games. No game no negative review. I am a genius if I do say so myself
Another thing with GBO2, is that it's a game that came out in Japan first on console, before being localized for international release, and then ported to PC.
All the jank and annoying aspects likely stem from the fact that the way the game is, is more normal in Japan than it is in everywhere else. Majority of the games under the Gundam franchise are often Japan/Asia exclusive, or are designed with the Asian playerbase in mind first, and then adding on stuff for the West, in which case, it's all similar with their structure and attitude towards the design of the games. It was only recently that they started releasing games internationally with the West in mind from the start of development.
You weren't lying about this video being being low hanging fruit
8:17 hey, how dare you compare Raid to AIDS, that's an insult to AIDS
500 hours into GBO2 right now, it's actually a decent, strategically slow game. The wait times aren't as bad as they were at the release of this video aynmore. Though, you'll need to play according to timezones.
Saving my timestamp: 3:07
You say no game has a cool down for melee, minecraft does.
That's the key - For a game to be overwhelmingly negative, it requires there to be passion behind that sentiment.
A bad game doesn't get that sentiment. A shovelware game (aside from the fake sims) doesn't get that sentiment.
Games that should be good get that sentiment. You don't buy "300 games party mix 7" hoping it could be the best game of the year, or at least something fun and memorable and well made. But you do buy Starfield, or Redfall, or (well not 'buy', but overwatch) or no man's sky, etc. with that sort of thought process. So it's the pain of the hope crashing down, or the bitterness of people feeling betrayed, that reaches those ratings.
jesus... White background is still a thing in 2023? It hurt eyes
Thumbnails, THUMBNAILS!
The joke ad interaction at 8:14 is so fucking funny I love it
7:50 kind of unrelated but it boggles my mind as a consumer how basically every single game on the app stores have a 4.0+ star rating and nobody really cares. With all the "give us 5 stars to get bonuses in game" popups when playing and flat out fake reviews, it's hard to distinguish what is really a good game or not. At least most of them are free so it only costs the time to download and try it for a few minutes before uninstalling
I live in fear that a game I've developed ends on one of this videos
Ah, Bandai Namco and ps to pc ports. A match made in the deepest pits of hell.
GBO2's only true flaws are cheaters and server connections issues. Apart from those, it's a fricking banger if you work together with your team as you should. 😊
Ah, Spacebase DF-9 was great and looked like it would be better, but then it left itself unfinished and decided it was done, and that taught me a lesson on Early Access and the risks of trusting people.
that gundam game looks AWESOME- except for the flaws
On the notes of unrealized potential and making a community fix the game, I want to share a success story from that. A game called Star Wars: Empire at War: Forces of Corruption (yeah two subtitles).
When it launched, it was mediocre. It was released to steam and didn't see much attention until molders got ahold of it and made it... good. So good. It's the only official SW RTS game I am aware of, and it somehow has enjoyable ground AND space combat. Ask Total War about how hard it is to have two enjoyable combat modes.
Anyway, modder have made the game 10/10 in my book. Between Awakening of the Rebellion, Remake, Thrawn's Revenge, various Clone Wars mods, and submods for all of the above, it's an amazing game.
_And,_ and this is the important part: They're still updating the game. They recently made it 64-bit.
Never seen anything by you before. I love the calm tone, and the jokes, and was actually laughing out loud several times when I spotted the little edit you made to what seemed like screenshots (Like with the Mr Beast Video, or "Aids shadow Legends")! That's a sub from me!