DELPHI UNHINGED: TRIAL PREP 101 and LEGAL ANALYSIS
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- Опубліковано 5 жов 2024
- With Richard Allen's trial fast approaching, Ali and I thought it may useful to have a Live going through the nuts and bolts of trying a case of this magnitude and what you should expect to see during the scheduled three week trial.
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Bob maybe you should do what you do best and watch people and what is going and team up with a good note taker. Get the notes and go over them, and then do a one day thorough briefing on it. Maybe just give a short overall on each day. Without it being filmed and a recording not available, we are not going to get a good feel for what is happening if everybody is busy taking notes. Just my thoughts. If nobody watches the people there will never be a good record of that otherwise. We need someone to read the room. You will have the information from notes others gather and having been in the room you will be able to give your legal insights as well.
I agree completely
@@DefenseDiariesPod I meant to say do a brief the night of but do a thorough go over the next night of the preceding day. It's going to be tough and require a lot of caffeine either way! Thank you for all you do. I don't see how you can go over the notes and do review of it on the same night. Maybe you can! 😁
Replay crew here! I agree completely with this 👆🏻
@@DefenseDiariesPodget a lapel camera, don't share the video but use it to take notes after to discuss
I hate it when Gull defaults to RA’s right to a fair trial when she has violated his rights at every turn. I have concerns about transparency in this trial and the fact that it will not be televised deepens those concerns.
Violated his rights? 😂😂😂
ALLY is right, it is absurd. Im considering just calling the Indiana Vs. Allen, Take One.
Sadly, take 2 could take years and he may take his own life waiting. That’s my fear.
Love when u guys cover Delphi , thanks 🙏
I believe Tobin was originally hired by the state. When he didn't say what they want decide not to use him.
reply crew here as always. Glad you are both back safe and sound. The funniest part was when Ali got caught reading something else while Bob was reading a motion and immediately asked her a question about what he just read. haha
I love that Ali makes Bob into an old guy talking about old stuff. 😊
OMG!!
This judges orders are unconstitutional. No recording in the courthouse and you must have a “recognizable media pass”
Like you say, no one listens to that garbage anymore. Your podcast is way more informative than the local channel blah blah. The people need to stand up and make ALL court proceedings broadcast for all to see. The ultimate transparency.
'I'm not a lawyer, BUT...' #5762: I thought it was entirely at the presiding judge's discretion. It's enough that members of the public can watch the trial in the Public Gallery - even if their numbers are restricted to the first ten in the queue? Have I got that wrong?
You're correct. This is one of the big problems with the injustice system. Judges feel like they can do whatever they want, avoid transparency like the plague, and then we should just all trust that they're being fair and impartial anyway. We need more transparency and fewer judges who want to act like the courtroom is their domain where they're the dictator.
Amazing this judge was all up for TV cameras in the courtroom, until this s/show was landed on her,suddenly the powers being protected are leaning on her to literally have this man convicted in secret...much like Thomas Mair was in England, where his own mother was even banned from attending!
@independentmedia9312 yes, exactly 💯. That judge irks me. Why in the heck can't their be cameras in the courtroom. I planned on going, (I live super close), but they are letting so few in. Everything about this judge has ticked me off. She should have stepped down...imo
@@jc5187 cameras are not permitted in federal trials full stop; judges in state cases have quite a bit of leeway concerning cameras - for example the judge in the Lori Vallow cases did not permit cameras full stop. I think that cameras are in general a great idea as a visual recording exposes people to the legal process etc but I can also understand that witnesses and others can experience levels of anxiety and harassment that are unprecedented w/the combo of cameras/iPhones plus social media. The Vallow judge was very concerned about the witnesses feeling threatened and intimidated by social media loons etc.
Wow Bob you have found a comfort zone big difference from when you started!
Thank you Susanne!
I only live an hour away and I wanted to go to the trial, but I doubt I'd get in. Been following this case for years.
Yay for Melanie & Ali coming back together for an episode!! 🎉🎉
Thank you both!!!! ❤
I live 30 miles from London and it was crazy to think you guys were just so close when I watch you live from all the way over the pond 🥰glad you had a great time x
20:04 a friend of ours is about 5'5 that's the first descriptor that people use to describe him (along with loud Brummie) yet no one said they saw a short arse guy out there.
Glad you guys enjoyed your trip to London and you had a safe trip back, hope you can come back one day and visit some more of the uk, there are so many amazing places to visit outside of London
Like Scotland...we even had the sun turn up for once!😂
@williamrae9954 Scotland is beautiful, my dad comes from a village near to Aberdeen so we used to go up there on holiday every year visiting relatives. Spent some of my best times up there.
@@CW1971 My Great Aunt's farm is just west of Aberdeen... language of their own up there, Doric :)
@williamrae9954 I wouldn't be surprised if that's what my wee great grandma spoke because I often struggled to catch what she was saying but then understand perfectly if she repeated it.
I'm happy you enjoyed London. 😊
Watching a program by prof.He had a retired cop on his show , who said that where the unspent billet was found that it was a target range.
Bahahahaha I love it!! Bob “I want to know what were you looking at?” Lmao 🤣 you guys are the best
lol!! I’m on replay crew right now, and I’m exactly at that part… 59mins! 😂😂 Greatness. Made me laugh and made my early morning wake up tolerable! 🙌💯
I hate it. I miss this life, evening shows are very hard for me… good show
Melanie did a fundraiser for Asheville NC tonight, which is the hardest hit, I believe. I'm in East TN & is bad, also, but Asheville is pretty much gone. There's no way in or out of Asheville, I-40 & I-26 are both closed so many dunno about their family members. No power, water, cell service &: the news is devastating. (I.e. after the water receded they said they were bodies hanging out of windows, hanging in trees, Etc.) While we we're hit, is no where near asb car as NC. I dunno the # est missing in NC. We lost a hospital and all elementary schools in two cities in East Tennessee. We're just not used to this kind of disaster and devastation, and even Governor Santos said not to help Florida but rather than your assistance to Western North Carolina and East Tennessee. Prayers for anyone affected. I didn't get hit badly at all. I have some siding and a couple of shutters down and I'm without internet. Big whoop in comparison! Thousands are without any kind of utility services and are really struggling!!
Okay, Okay...I'll go do my paperwork request to be a FEMA emergency volunteer. I had no idea things went so far inland. The weather is only going to get more erratic until we die.
@@Ieezecayou're absolutely right. It's terrible!! That's awesome if you to volunteer. Thx for that!! I'm lucky where I am, having lost little, but others are in horrific shape!! Asheville is an island now, essentially. Greene Co & Unicoi Co in TN are destroyed. Lost all the schools Greene, some in Unicoi, & the only hospital in Unicoi is gone. Very, very sad.
This is just so tragic! Asheville is such a gorgeous place - this breaks my heart. I went to grad school in NC, and I visited Asheville a few times and admired its beauty (it reminded me of towns in Northern California). 😭 😭 😭
Replay crew. I can totally see Judge Gull denying Tobin's statements, she is totally biased and has granted nearly everything the prosecution has put forward including basically denying Allen any defense, if they wanted to ban the 3rd party stuff then it should've been done early on and not at this late time in the proceedings. Now they want her to deny defense their expert who will challenge the prosecution expert on the unspent round...why? Well because basically he might just make the jury believe that the round just doesn't prove anything which in my opinion it really doesn't (RA has walked those trails before, he could well have dropped that at any time prior to that day, or shock horror someone else may have a weapon that is the same caliber, same make, same model, made on the same machine production line meaning it would have very similar microscopic flaws that leave the same "tool" markings).
I think they must have hard evidence on Allen. By being so closed minded to the defense. If not, she is not a good judge...this whole case is crazy. I thought for sure keegan kline was in on this. But now I just don't know and desperately want to watch this trial. I live an hour away. But wouldn't be able to get in. This ticks me off!
@jc5187 they've got to have something more than the round and the fact he said he was on the trails.
I'm waiting to hear all the evidence before making my mind up fully but I agree with Ali it just shouts that more than one person was involved....now I don't know if Allen is one of those people, if he is he needs to be convicted, but I just can't make it work in my head that he acted alone and in such a short window of time, especially when the judge is literally denying anything that could possibly cause a jury to question the state, the geofencing that shows multiple phones in the area (60-100yds) of the crime scene at around the time of the crime, EF's confession, Libby's phone switching off and then turning back on nearly 12 hours later, not allowing any other person to even be mentioned, denying all of Todd Clicks testimony and investigative work.....
It is a living nightmare.! And it must be for Richard Allen after all it’s his life on the line
1:17:50 the state didn't use statistical data for Zachariah Anderson!!!!! I would love for you guys to get with Solomon Anderson and interview him about Zach's trial. He did an interview recently for some crime show on CW but not sure when it airs. I know you both are super busy but maybe when things settle down a bit. I think Natalie Wisco should be filing his appeal soon.
The sketches in the Maddie McCann case became a nightmare (the infamous “egg guy” sketch). And of course those sketches didn’t lead to any suspect (and the guy that tabloids keep mentioning, the German national, has not been shown to have *ANY* connection to the case despite police grilling him for years at this point).
"Ijames" was the surname of one of Jim Jones main followers that joined his cult while they were still in Indiana in the early days.
The talk show is Sleuth Intution
Replay listener. This was pretty great . Thanks guys
Glad you enjoyed London ❤ glad you are back!!!! ❤
Thank you! 😃
There's a wonderful American writer (very popular in the UK, probably unknown in the US) called Bill Bryson. He wrote a travel book in 1998, 'A Walk In The Woods' which detailed him and his mate walking the Appalachian National Trail. It's an uncharacteristically sour book imo. Bryson usually has a light touch, a mildly amused, jolly-foreigner-abroad approach: but not in this book which is darker. Towards the end of the book, he encounters two very nice young women who are also walking the trail. About a week later, he bumps into a Park Ranger who tells him both women were found str-ngled in their tent around the time he saw them alive. I wonder if they ever caught the person who did that? Wasn't 'Deliverance' filmed in the Appalachians? Some parts are sparsely populated, remote & isolated.
Confessions mean nothing. Even elvis fields confessed.
You don't know that. I think we need to hear them first.
I put a little more weight into confessions made to your wife.
Ohhh! I was going to ask if you were going to do an intro on Delphi w/Melanie!
Good Lord, do you think the state Attorney General would’ve approved television broadcast?
Replay crew 💕💕
46:04 Bob, you don't have to take notes if you don't want to take notes. Do the thing your way. Watch what happens in court and report on that. Your viewers will still watch and appreciate your point of view. It'll be more interesting anyway than word-for-word transcripts.
Hi Mottas!!! So glad you are safely back!!! ❤ Been off here due to Helene here in the mountains of NC.. I am about 1hr down from Asheville NC…
Love Melanie Little. Excited for the collab!
Thanks for covering!
1:24:22 also Zach's DNA was NOWHERE near the "scene." But he supposedly beat and stabbed the guy? And Zach was not telling his daughter not to say anything on the stand. She was trying to talk to him in between questions and he was trying to get her to stop. She hadn't seen him in 3 years. The mom was doing sign language to her to get her to stop as well. It's all on the record.
Bob, re coverage of Delphi, I think you need to do you.I don’t think anyone is expecting you to recite a transcript at the end of each day. Let us hear what you want to tell us. Also, you don’t need me to tell you this, but with some of the other lawyers going, it’s not a bad idea to partner up on note-taking and coverage. You do this witness, I’ll do the next, etc. I love your coverage of Delphi so far. I enjoy your rants & passion along with your legal analysis. And then I also enjoy watching Lawyer Lee and Melanie and Andrea to get their takes on the same thing. During Karen Read, I watched ALL the coverage. I know I will do the same for this trial. We want Bob coverage!
#replaycrew
No guarantees, but I have a sneaky suspicious Andrea has a press pass. Not only is she a content creator, like yourselves, & authors a Substack, as well. I doubt she's trying to go as an atty AND Andrea has family, if I'm not mistaken, in the area. I know she said she has family near Kohlberger 's trial & is going there. I could be wrong about family at this trial.
None of the courts around here allow any electronics to be brought in either. We have to leave purses, phones, and everything outside of any courtroom in this area.
With regards to the ballistics testimony and the jury’s believing it, I would love to see the Defense counter that evidence with an expert on the studies which have shown issues with the test/analysis process, human subjectivity for results, and errors resulting for those. For example, the Army Research Lab’s studies concluded a MINIMUM of 25 test cartridges are needed for accuracy in determining striation patterns, but most ballistic analysis techniques use far less than that when testing for a match. BLUF - go after the methodology for ballistics testing as a whole, in addition to the actual results of this specific test.
Guaranteed seating would be as a guest of the defendants family.
We were raised Anglophiles by my mother. To this day the British Isles are fairyland to me.
1:01:30 metallurgist lol. I used to buy iron castings for Caterpillar and they are critical for making the things of metal. They can tell you how burning jet fuel won't melt steel beams in a really tall building in NYC for example.
Only 900F too cool, and doesn't cut steel beams at 45 degrees...science of metal,crucial, especially when a bullet expands upon firing,i.e.,a gun is more likely to jam with unfired rounds?
Surely Law & Crime is recognized. See if they'll give you credentials?
Damn Bob! I'm in WI, so not too far from you or Indiana and I'm a GREAT notetaker but since we're currently in Cabo, I probably couldn't get off work. Boo.
Wait a minute Bob, you can’t reach out to Court TV and ask them to put you on their Media list, with some potential trade off being you do some Live Hit/recaps from outside the courtroom, providing “in the room analysis” alongside the Journalists recap of events?
You need to take someone with you to take shorthand.
If I am on that Jury, my question to the prosecution is, “That’s it? An unspent shell casing? That’s all you got?” I am not convicting anyone with that tiny piece of evidence. You need more than that, and a blurry video and sketches that can’t agree on what he looks like. I am not even sold on the confessions.
Exactly. An unsent round has absolutely no markings to indicate what gun it was for. I don't know the caliber but I'm sure there is way more than 1 of any that caliber gun in the area, and more than 1 box of the same ammunition sold in the area. Unless it's some extremely rare caliber and ammunition it is absolutely moot
So you know the evidence the state has? Aren't you special 🤣
The jury won't hear or see most of what we know. Only what the judge allows.
This guy is officially screwed.
So will there still be no court livestream or court audiostream allowed during Richard Allen's trial?
No one else, except who are literally sitting in court can follow the trial, anyone else is screwed and unable to follow this trial?
Does anyone know what's up exactly, I didn't watch the entire live 😅?
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Think Gull will allow media chair place holders outside the courthouse doors…a la Judge Cannone? Lol
Wait…Gull actually gave the defense something????
She still won't allow funds for the defense
Where do you get your bs from?
Todd Click was just arrested!!!
This trial really concerns me. I do not trust Gull or Mcleland.
It doesn't matter what you think.
Yes, it does matter. We the people actually matter more than some would like.
In the digital age, it surely seems like censorship, very disappointing
Does RA have family history that names Allen County?
Scottish name...we named a lot of the USA,even one of your Founding Fathers is from this Scottish town! The Irish socialized, the Scots named places,why Americans always ask..."What part of Ireland are you from?"
OMG🤣
@@juliannfriend6226 what’s funny?
I love the UK except for the whole tyranny thing. London can have the same exact stores as here but they are just better. Glad you are back home safely!
Stop scolding your wife on a live. That's worse than her nor paying attention to you for a minute.
The woman mess with it even if it’s perfect to f with us
Get a lapel camera. Don't share the video but keep it for yourself.
I enjoy watching this show from Ontario , But I was baffled seeing the Richard Allen hater on your show. He seriously is a whack job he coaches his watchers to think Richard Allen did it. He has the puffy sleeve on his coat, He has that nose that he compared with one of the sketches. Boy this guy must be bought n sold to say he did it.
In the chat?
it's a very restrictive jury pool if they have to be people who can sit in a hotel in the middle of nowhere Indiana for a month. High probability there will be some retirement age Odinists.
Should be 3mths...going by other less complex cases...but the fix is in!
Good Lord, do you think the state Attorney General would’ve approved television broadcast?