Magnacut issue is just the latest excuse. Guy has not delivered on 3V and S90V either. He even stated in a recent UA-cam comment on his video that this one customer's knife was ready but didn't have a sheath and sheaths cost money. So, according to his own words, he doesn't have money to get a sheath so he can deliver a completed knife that was ordered in 2020. All that preorder money is spent and he can't fulfill the orders for one reason or another. He has now said he can't make GSO 5.1 in Bohler steel (that he was offering to let customers switch to from Magnacut) because there are high tariffs on large materials, so he is not getting that. I think all the latest videos and such is Guy setting up to file bankruptcy with it being someone else's fault.
I think Guy has backed himself into a corner. By the production schedule posted on 2/14 on his own site, he has barely made progress on the 2022-23 orders. I’m guessing a lot of these backlog knives are for the CPM steels and he has essentially burnt down his bridge with being able to obtain those materials. He has been cheerleading Elmax and K890 to the extreme but he even admits that it’s tough to get the sheets of these materials that are suitable for his larger knifes. So Guy has to hope he can finish the backlog with the materials he already has or a big chunk of his preorders are basically indefinitely delayed with no obvious material replacements and costs will just continue to rise. I think Guy would’ve been in a better position if he was more diplomatic about this situation as well, and waited until he got a conclusive answer on the issue before he started his “PR campaign” against Niagara and Crucible. He also needs to be more transparent with his own customers and give them the cold hard far off order timeframes instead of claiming that all his back orders will be “finished in a few weeks”.
I think it’s admirable to call each customer and offer a refund in response to a manufacturer backing out, it shows integrity. If the manufacturer or upstream provider was ultimately at fault, the time for blame is either after the backlog is cleared… or in bankruptcy proceedings.
I ordered a blade from Survive! so long ago, not only did I forget about the order, I forgot they even existed as a company. Now I'm getting emails from them, and seeing vids whining about Magnacut. If they can't even fill orders, they should not be focused on making content and or bashing CPM. They have pretty much put the last nail in the coffin of their credibility at this point. That's a shame as by all acounts, they made a great knife at one time.
The issues guy is having looks like it’s maybe coming from decarb and not leaving enough steel pre heat treat to grind down past the problem steel post ht. Maybe it’s possible he got a bad batch but I’m not convinced. Guy doesn’t even cut his blanks out transverse to the rolling direction of the steel which means he’s losing out on toughness and clearly doesn’t know what he’s doing. He’s admitted as such, saying he is learning along the way since recently buying shop equipment.
Companies will sometimes offer a settlement as a gesture of good faith before potentially pursuing other legal action. It shows they tried to work with em. Despite the magnacut thing, guy has 2015 (and every year since) orders open in 3v that still have no real delivery date. I don’t think he has any intention of fulfilling all the old 3v big blades and would rather people refund them since he is taking a loss on them. Also..it was telling when guy sent his fanboys on Larrin giving his contact info and all. Larrin has nothing to do with Niagara he doesn’t even work in the knife or steel business.
He gave out Larrin's contact info? Larrin may not be involved in the business side but as the designer of the steel he could likely still offer insight. But he isnt obligated too I don't think
@@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors well going back to look I see he just gave out his UA-cam and instagram account name, but said in the video feel free to reach out to Larrin. He has a short titled something like “all about Larrin.” I’m sure Larrin is aware of what is happening and is in contact with Niagara and maybe their lawyers as well. I’ve heard their scientists determined it was a decarb issue and something guy was doing, and they’ve sent samples off for independent testing.
@ShoahBiz the decarb issue as I understand it was caused by some stress relieving that Peter's did. I don't think these voids have anything to do with decarb bbuuttt I'm not anything close to a metalurgist. As I understand it Larrin was CC'd in emails. Man idk this is all too hot, I hope it can be resolved without anything drastic happening tbh
@@ShoahBizthat's what did it for me man. I could look past all the people complaining for years and the claims he's made against Niagara. But in my eyes Larrin Thomas is a true pioneer, a man of integrity, the Godfather of knife steel nerdology. When Larrin Thomas blocked Guy that really turned me off.
I think you nailed it about this. Beginning a business with batch production, funded by preorders and produced to high standards would be difficult. Toss in a bad batch of steel into that system and you have a nightmare. I hope he gets it all straightened out.
You are SO RIGHT! Glad you are addressing Survive's outrageous "Business" practices are deplorable! Ordered the GSO 5.1 in Magnacut almost 3 years ago, finally, reached someone within the company to change my order from Magnacut to CPM-3V due to my displeasure with their Magnacut issues and no longer have confidence in the steel. So, all this time has passed and he's pumping out all the new 4" models and so on. Also had an EDC 4 on order for 1.5 years. Yet here they are selling them directly to the public, but our pre-orders are just sitting around somewhere! Horrible business model! Yes, I feel bad for him with these Magnacut issues, but STOP running out these new models when you have all these pre-orders just sitting around and not being delivered! He needs to focus of getting his pre-orders delivered before starting new projects! 🤔🤔
Regardless of the issues about him he makes an awesome knife. I just picked up an EDC 4 yesterday and I have gone over it from end to end and it is 100% no flaws. I've been looking for a particular fixed blade for years and kept holding off because either I didn't like something about the knife or the sheath. His knifes check every box for me. I understand the concerns of paying for something and not getting it. I'd be upset too. Hopefully he makes it right.
Don’t worry about anything unless it’s life threatening . Day by day brother and things will come together surrounded by good people . Have a great show
I just read an email from Survive I received back in 2014; at that time were issues with the screws and the g10 lol. Always excuses with Survive Knives 😂
Excuses excuse a problem- Which in this case might not be aplicable. However small businesses will always have some problem they are dealing with. They are reasons for difficulties, not excuses, because most of the time the excuse nothing. How these reasons are handled is what makes or breaks a company
Agree with your opinion on the living wage. I remember a teacher when I was a kid telling us we’re all hypocrites, it’s up to you how much of a hypocrite you want to be aware of
A perfectionist has a inner drive and growing stress to complete a task as efficiently as possible...Procrastinator finds excuses to avoid doing the parts they don’t want to deal with...I see a continued pattern of using his “high standards” as an excuse. The stress Guy continues to create for himself would have driven a perfectionist nuts long ago...Just Say’n FYI: Guy stated in his last few videos that he is finding these imperfections in all stages of his machining and finishing processes.
@dlrmon1 guy explains the difference of why it would be Niagara and not Crucible when he explains how it is recieved from Crucible vs how Niagara presses it into sheets- for what that is or isn't worth.
UPDATE! Just after my first post, I sent an email and asked for my money back, I told them I no longer had confidence in Survive Knives as a Company and all the DRAMA coming out of their business, I requested an immediate refund on my GSO 5.1 and EDC on order. Couple of days later, get an email my GSO 5.1 in 3V was on it's way, still have not heard about my EDC? Don't want to push my luck! "BTW, the GSO is fabulous!" But the emotional drain really takes it out of you! About 2 months ago, I requested 3V instead of the Magnacut I originally ordered, but I actually prefer 3V .
I own many knives with powdered steels (serie and custom) and all are good, some are better and my best knife with CPM MagnaCut so far is the TRC Pohlheim. The Pohlheim is a great knife, great steel and heat treatment (63 hrc), no problems with corrosion and no problems with toughness and edge stability.
Definitely a strange situation. Guy seems genuine. Definitely business mistakes were made, but I think there is probably an issue that he is seeing. Their knives are great, the ones I have owned.
Personally I believe that Survive Knives are full of shit and should start their process of insolvency. And send a big apology to all of their customers and give as much money back to pre paid orders as they can....
I'll add for the record, that your non-judgement was wise and as it turned out it was none of the above. The world is often more complicated than we first think.
I wish you knew how bad I want an ursus cub I've waited years for the potential for it man I hope it's as perfect as I believe it is going to be. Enjoy blade show!!!😊
@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors he took 400 dollars off me in 2021 for a GSO-12, when he failed to deliver, ignored all my requests for a refund. That is theft pure and simple.
Survive will just ghost you or send a copy/paste response. I tried to get a refund from them and they basically sent a copied message saying the money has already been spent to run their business. Contact whichever service you used to order the knife and try to get a refund that way. Even if you’re over the refund or inquiry period, mention how they don’t respond to any of your requests and gather up all the emails you’ve sent to Survive. I was a year over to request a charge dispute but my CC company still gave me a refund after I explained the situation. Good luck. Used my refund to get an Architect 5.5.
This is the first I have heard of the situation. Dr. Larrin Thomas has always been a benefit to the knife community in my opinion. However, weird things can happen in business relationships, especially with money and reputations involved and at risk.
Everybody talks about survive, nobody talks about those who pre ordered all those knives, and allowed this clusterfuck to go on. obviously y'all did not learn with the gaming industry. Never pre order, in any way, anything.
Lmfao😂 ohh man two completely different industries. But I get you I really do but so different because I can sue for not getting my knife Preorder a video game and hoping that the game is going to be good is just a bad idea in general
The suggestion in one of @SurviveKnives recent videos was that each knife on the back order would take 1.5 hours to finish. If there are 100 knives, 5x30 hr weeks (or 3x50hr weeks) would finish out orders that are several years old. Seems like time well spent…..
That does sound like time well spent to me however on the other hand I know that when you are running a business and paying bills you can't just set aside 3-5 weeks of labor for work who's money is already gone. You have to balance continuing to make enough money to pay the bills, do all of the shop upkeep and the little things that inevitably constantly pop up, AND working on the backlog. I think personally that he should have been more aggressive with the backlog for a long time at this point but I am certain that he can't just sit down and say goodbye to 3-5 weeks of labor while businesses paying the bills, paying the employees, and paying ones own bills.
@@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors According to his videos, and website, they have a large supply of finished knives that are available and for sale, specifically for that reason. (Again, working extra on making knives to be sold and shipped immediately, rather than work on years of backlog).
Which is why I have been telling people that if they want a survive! to buy one that is in stock. It's the right way to do things for survive! at this point I think
@@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors I already have $300 invested I an order from 9/12/22… I’m not spending more money on a company until they give me the product I was promised 2 years ago.
@JoshSweet well yes, that makes sense. I was speaking of what I tell folks to do. If I had a pre order from 2 years ago I wouldn't be buying anything either.
I do wonder what other knife companies blades would look like under this process he is using. IF he checked other companies blades in the same steel & found the same issies then maybe its something all magnacut blades have but nobody noticed.
Agree with you. I've watched a few of his explanations, and it seems just like a bad deal all around. At the end of the day, one of them should take the loss to own up to it and move on. I could respect that. If that's the forge company paying him back for the bad steel. Or him just saying whatever he may have done to cause this and if he knows or finds out with his 3rd party testing. Then apologize if that is appropriate, then move on.
@@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors Well I don't like my government or the feds at the moment and I do like good knives that have good value. Thanks man. I hear all the hype of how good they are so was looking at them. Thanks again.
The guy is backed up and using everything as an excuse to me. He can’t even refund people their money and that says alot. Hope I’m wrong and I’m glad I got a Reiff Knife in Magnacut and loving it!
One more comment! You mentioned that Survive MUST focus on their backlog of orders, but this has been going on for around 10 years now with the long waits and back order logs stacking up! So what ever his business model he's using is NOT working! REMEMBER THIS: Doing the same thing over and over agin and expecting different results is call INSANITY! He can't continue to operate in this manor! Some of the 8"-10" GSO's took around 8 years of waiting! That's unacceptable! I would love to just get mymoney back and move on, but that's not going to happen either! And the LAST thing I'd like to point out is he MUST raise his prices! He is so stuck on keeping the same price point when EVERYTHING, including delivery cost have sky rocketed.People are easily paying $400-$500 for top of the line quality knives. Keeping his prices artificially low is only hurting himself and the company! Labor cost to are exploding not to mention the utilities, gas and electricity cost of his factory have doubled in the past 5 years! Guy, RAISE your prices about 20-25%, your knives are worth more than you're selling them for in todays markets!
@@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors ah I might have missed that bit, I just recall you saying you didn’t have any skin in the game with them at the moment. All good :) I’ve been a lucky one at getting my three orders refunded before the 6 month PayPal cutoff.
@CodgersUnited it just makes sense that now that they have knives in stock generally that folks who are wary of the pre order, likely for good reason, just wait till the knife they want is in stock like every other knife company. That would be problem solved immediately. If nothing else Survive!'s customer base and business model is interesting that's for sure.
Looking forward to more coverage on this and especially on the Ursus Cub! 😊 What does it look like under the scales, is it skeletonized? I was interested in this since I wanted to find a fixed blade small enough to EDC but still tough enough to do some bushcraft with. The Ursus Cub seems to tick all the boxes for me so far, with 90 degree spine, stainless, saber grind, overall size and blade length, kydex sheath and comfortable looking handle. Not sure how much time you’ve had with it, but do you see any issues with it processing wood for small fire prep, with maybe 2” diameter baton work? Thanks!👍🏻
So due to blade show I haven't taken the scales off yet or used it a LOT but so far I have NO concerns about any practical fire prep. It is a SWEET size little knife!!!
Good take until the rant at the end. You provide a service and/or goods. Your customer might be a business owner or a company man and regardless of where their money is coming from, it's coming to you. They dont owe you anything besides the money that they already paid to you for your goods/service. How you run your business and your hurdles are your own at the end.
@@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors it could vary by model. I didn't ask for specifics on all the models, but the owner told me that the AK 6.5 in 3V are made by TOPS.
@@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoorsmy 1st run 3V AK 5.5 is definitely made by Tops, labeled as such on the blade. Don't know the current ones, though I thought they said the 3V ones were still Tops and the other CPM steels were White River.
I think 2024 is going to declare survive. I'm rooting for him though, I have a few orders in and looks like the EDC 4 in k890 is about to ship...the two orders in magnacut, who knows with this ongoing crap. But I for one believe him and think he is being genuine, but then I don't have a 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 year old order with him either. But then even Chris Reeve has a 6+ year delivery timeline if you order direct...so its certainly not unheard of for long waits. I mean he really just got his own manufacturing going this past summer so I think he is headed in a good direction at this point and 2024 will be his turnaround year if he doesn't get any more bad materials. I personally think (all speculation as usual) that he got a bad ingot...shit happens, crucible should make him whole figure out their processes so it doesn't happen again...this all would have just blown over, none the wiser...
Well, let’s just state the obvious. He probably needs that money to stay afloat and hopefully soon it won’t be that way. Anyway, it’s not that the criticisms of survive aren’t warranted and the excuses though valid will only carry so far if he doesn’t turn it around pretty quickly. But the fact remains that no matter how Chris Reeves handles it. They still have a six year wait so it’s certainly not unheard of for very long leadtimes in this industry.
Well I’ve received two of my four orders. The remaining two are magnacut so we’ll see. But the two I have received are best fit and finish I’ve ever seen in such a reasonably priced blade. Sorry Chris Reeve would probably cost 3-4x more for the same thing.
CNC shop worker here, prior overseas contractor and LE/Corrections: We are personally seeing bad differences in steel that we order for our parts and those variations come from US suppliers sourced locally to out of state. That causes chattering, problems with run time, set up and breakdown( throwing or using up inserts prematurely) So material no matter where sourced for whatever is a major issue, bad management in every business and factories are a major issue (lots of BlackScout Survival mentalities try to play management and that is no joke) .....as far as inspection goes once again manpower, numbers and resources are an issue. No one wants to work anymore and puts undue hours and stress on those that will MPI equipment costs money to buy, run and maintain so tough call.....MPI is by far IMHO the way to find those flaws. I guess my point is these are not "excuses" these are major problems within the steel and manufacturing industry that have no current easy solution.
I can see that being the case. The entire economy is MASSIVELY overstrained right now with rocketing inflation, stagnant wages and a socially engineered, worthless population devoid of morals or character. We are in for it.
Gary Creely made a good video about the steel part - not about the other issues --------------------- should have just waited like 1 minute late in the vid -- oh well
Thanks for playing your hand. Not that it was necessary from the person who commented "donuts are bad for you" on a knife video 🤣🤣🤣 Seriously though, whoever is paying you is clearly cheap. Find a better contract
10:30 survive knives is the only company using the 'peen process' - so if it is so effective why has it not been patented/tm'd and then licensed to other companies for them to use? and no one else in the entire world has thought up this 'peen process'?
You make it sound like that couldn't happen. Do you know what it costs to patent something (it wouldn't be a trademark) Then once it's patented do you understand what that patent actually does for you? I don't know anything about this process but let's think about how we build these logical bridges.
Guy says the process is “used in other industries” (he said it is used with some titanium processing). I haven’t heard him mention or give an example of another knife maker using it.
Nobody else can sell what I sell because I sell myself. If someone wants an XK&T they want an XK&T. I happily talk to people about other brands fantastic knives in almost every channel because im not worried about someone buying someone else's knife. If they like their knife they will buy it. If they like my knife they will buy that too. Very few of my customers buy only one knife. The idea that for one person to prosper they have to take everyone else down is silly.
Not sure what is and whats not.. But i am concerned about all the customers saying they aren't getting their orders over the last 10yrs.. seems to be alot of people... But also how many people are lying and never placed an order...
The problem with that Bark River knife that Dutch Bushcraft broke was the laser cut gimping just like what Buck had with the Hoodlum knife. When you use a laser to cut on a knife you need to go through a normalizing cycle to relieve the stress of the metal. It is now coming up on 19 months with no product yet reviewers seem to get knives.
No product from Survive! or from BRK&T? Jimping itself is a stress riser- I do find it surprising that brk&t laser cut them but I guess it makes sense.
I ordered gso 4.7 back in 2021 guy changed the design of gso 4.7 to a new design so if I ever get my gso 4.7 it will not even be what I ordered it is dog shit I must say
Guy does have terrible business practices, but i will say he is definitely not the only one having Magnacut issues. I recently purchased an Architect 6.5 Field Buddy and it has an inclusion like those Guy is experiencing. The only difference is, While the Architect is a beautiful and well made knife, Architect obviously doesn't have the same quality standards that Survive does.
@@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors clout chaser be ignorant and ignoring facts. Then trying to make anyone that shares something different, is the bad guy. When in actuality, it's you just trying to make fun of that person to make you feel better about your ignorance. I'm in no way a fan of Guy. But he's not making up these issues.
I really admire Guy's determination to sell the finest product. However.... there are people who have been waiting for over 5 years for a product they paid for. A very reputable steel manufacturer is facing claims that nobody else had a problem with. Larrin Thomas, a true pioneer, a man of reputation and integrity, has blocked Guy. Through all of this I don't know who's right, but I DO KNOW there are more red flags here than in all of Asia.
Well i can say this all you folks who ordered knives from this mfg need to file a class action law suit claiming buisness fraud. Force this mans hand. Make this man anwser for his actions or inactions as such. Other companies dont seem to have issues producing products with same materials. Im not an expert in steel or knives but it seems to me other knife makers have made many thousands of knives with like materials with very few issues. So who do we believe one person whos methods are suspect at best. Self admitted mistakes and learning as we go , or ? . Do we trust the many well respected knife makers who have delivered countless high quality knives to countless customers with very few failures. As i said im no knife or steel expert but im just raising valid questions one must ask themselves when put in simular situation reguarding any proven product manufactured and sold to the public. Whats more likely than not ? If sued he would be forced to prove his posture and methods are sound and the rest of the makers would the be left holding the bag. 🤔 . See what im saying. This maker would have to have some pretty strong evidence and would surely have top experts agree with or dispell his allegations. Who knows ? He might be a genius or a fraud but i doubt he can be both. Good luck to all who placed orders with this maker.
The problem starts with powder metallurgy. The assumption is that there is enough pressure and heat to create a bond. The old smelting process was guaranteed to create bonds because the metal was liquefied, which it is not with PM process. Smelted stock is also hot rolled down from 8 inch thick ingots to half inch or less in thickness. The hot rolling process removes 99.99% possibility of a void. I do not believe Survive is lying, I do believe PM steels present a quality control problem that does not exist with smelted/hot rolled steel stock. I have owned a few GSO's and I thought they were excellent knives.
I think Guy has every intention of delivering knives, but his business managment and manufacturing process development skills are poor. The difference between him and you is that you offered to refund people’s money when there was a problem with delivery. I work doing process development for manufacturing, and I didn’t see anything that he presented was out of the ordinary when developing a manufacturing process for product in a new material, definitely not anything that would stop delivery in it’s tracks for years. Normally when you develop a product you make prototypes, then do a pilot run to get idea of how much it actually costs to make the product as well as to dial in the process. You then price in the process including the cost of scrap into the final product. You can then roll with that process and eat the cost of scrap, until you develop a product with less loss. If he had done that before the pre-order (or limited the pre-order to the pilot run, and selling only that until he can put a realistic price on the final product) he wouldn’t be in this position. Instead of being accountable and refunding people’s money for backorders he is blaming the materials and his suppliers. Challenges are normal when manufacturing new anything, overcoming them is what your customers pay you to do.
when people talk about a "living wage" its in the context of giant multinational corporations that are hugely profitable. The argument is concerning "excess profits" which come as a result of "exploitative labor practices". They're talking about Walmart and McDonalds. They're not talking about small business employers much the local handyman. This stuff isn't rocket science. Every other remotely developed country has it figured out and many of them have a lower minimum wage than the US, or even no minimum wage without these kinds of issues. Walmart literally trains their workers on how to apply for government assistance, it's quite literally part of their business model, and the government enables that. You don't have to be an economist to understand that its a joke and that joke if on you, the serfs.
When people talk about a living wage it's in the context of what they feel they need to make to live. Trying to act as if every person has something more complicated than that in mind is either purposefully deceptive or HIGHLY optimistic about the regular person's ability.
creely is a generic dime a dozen stock removal guy in his garage grinding steel and selling based on gimmicks like rex121. he admitted himself he doesn't even know what that so called peening process is or what it entails. He's not an expert on anything. he's a guy in his garage. All that process is basically glass blasting. It's a finishing process to make stuff look nice. Nothing magical and has nothing to do with anything. MC is a steel that pushes the boundaries on what is currently possible. They were not even sure that it could actually work until they made the first heat and it came out okay at the last minute. The issue is, if the process isn't done carefully with extremely tight tolerances a steel like MC is more likely to have issues than other steels including other pm steels that are simpler to manufacture and not nearly as sensitive. If it's done right then it's an excellent knife steel. Other pm steels like say s35vn have a greater margin for error and the end result is unlikely to have such complications. The socio-economic issue, imo, is the obvious and precipitous decline of the United States. You can't even order a sandwich without a 50/50 shot that it will be wrong or messed up in some way. Notoriously careless American doctors are the 3rd leading cause of death resulting 250,000+ excess deaths each year and injuring millions more. The quality of anything that's made in the US after half a century of unbridled liberal economics, deregulation, and the religion of quarterly profits above all else has hollowed out much of the country. Big American companies are not trustworthy. The American government is not trustworthy. Most Americans are underpaid and hate their jobs. Nobody cares about anything. Would it really be so surprising if this guy got a bad heat of a steel that has to be manufactured extremely precisely? The issue is most guys would just stfu an move on, but he wants to make some grandstand on die on the hill.
Magnacut issue is just the latest excuse. Guy has not delivered on 3V and S90V either. He even stated in a recent UA-cam comment on his video that this one customer's knife was ready but didn't have a sheath and sheaths cost money. So, according to his own words, he doesn't have money to get a sheath so he can deliver a completed knife that was ordered in 2020. All that preorder money is spent and he can't fulfill the orders for one reason or another. He has now said he can't make GSO 5.1 in Bohler steel (that he was offering to let customers switch to from Magnacut) because there are high tariffs on large materials, so he is not getting that. I think all the latest videos and such is Guy setting up to file bankruptcy with it being someone else's fault.
Could be!
Nailed it
I think Guy has backed himself into a corner. By the production schedule posted on 2/14 on his own site, he has barely made progress on the 2022-23 orders. I’m guessing a lot of these backlog knives are for the CPM steels and he has essentially burnt down his bridge with being able to obtain those materials. He has been cheerleading Elmax and K890 to the extreme but he even admits that it’s tough to get the sheets of these materials that are suitable for his larger knifes. So Guy has to hope he can finish the backlog with the materials he already has or a big chunk of his preorders are basically indefinitely delayed with no obvious material replacements and costs will just continue to rise.
I think Guy would’ve been in a better position if he was more diplomatic about this situation as well, and waited until he got a conclusive answer on the issue before he started his “PR campaign” against Niagara and Crucible. He also needs to be more transparent with his own customers and give them the cold hard far off order timeframes instead of claiming that all his back orders will be “finished in a few weeks”.
I think it’s admirable to call each customer and offer a refund in response to a manufacturer backing out, it shows integrity. If the manufacturer or upstream provider was ultimately at fault, the time for blame is either after the backlog is cleared… or in bankruptcy proceedings.
I ordered a blade from Survive! so long ago, not only did I forget about the order, I forgot they even existed as a company. Now I'm getting emails from them, and seeing vids whining about Magnacut. If they can't even fill orders, they should not be focused on making content and or bashing CPM. They have pretty much put the last nail in the coffin of their credibility at this point. That's a shame as by all acounts, they made a great knife at one time.
Thank you for the thoughtful and reasonable reflection.
The issues guy is having looks like it’s maybe coming from decarb and not leaving enough steel pre heat treat to grind down past the problem steel post ht. Maybe it’s possible he got a bad batch but I’m not convinced. Guy doesn’t even cut his blanks out transverse to the rolling direction of the steel which means he’s losing out on toughness and clearly doesn’t know what he’s doing. He’s admitted as such, saying he is learning along the way since recently buying shop equipment.
I asked about the direction of his cuts on one of his rants, and he totally ignored my comment.
Companies will sometimes offer a settlement as a gesture of good faith before potentially pursuing other legal action. It shows they tried to work with em. Despite the magnacut thing, guy has 2015 (and every year since) orders open in 3v that still have no real delivery date. I don’t think he has any intention of fulfilling all the old 3v big blades and would rather people refund them since he is taking a loss on them.
Also..it was telling when guy sent his fanboys on Larrin giving his contact info and all. Larrin has nothing to do with Niagara he doesn’t even work in the knife or steel business.
He gave out Larrin's contact info?
Larrin may not be involved in the business side but as the designer of the steel he could likely still offer insight.
But he isnt obligated too I don't think
@@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors well going back to look I see he just gave out his UA-cam and instagram account name, but said in the video feel free to reach out to Larrin. He has a short titled something like “all about Larrin.” I’m sure Larrin is aware of what is happening and is in contact with Niagara and maybe their lawyers as well. I’ve heard their scientists determined it was a decarb issue and something guy was doing, and they’ve sent samples off for independent testing.
@ShoahBiz the decarb issue as I understand it was caused by some stress relieving that Peter's did.
I don't think these voids have anything to do with decarb bbuuttt I'm not anything close to a metalurgist.
As I understand it Larrin was CC'd in emails.
Man idk this is all too hot, I hope it can be resolved without anything drastic happening tbh
@@ShoahBizthat's what did it for me man. I could look past all the people complaining for years and the claims he's made against Niagara. But in my eyes Larrin Thomas is a true pioneer, a man of integrity, the Godfather of knife steel nerdology. When Larrin Thomas blocked Guy that really turned me off.
I think you nailed it about this. Beginning a business with batch production, funded by preorders and produced to high standards would be difficult. Toss in a bad batch of steel into that system and you have a nightmare. I hope he gets it all straightened out.
Magnacut is good to go, Survive isn’t.
So you're a metallurgist or a high school flunkie? Nothing made in the US is good to go.
You are SO RIGHT! Glad you are addressing Survive's outrageous "Business" practices are deplorable! Ordered the GSO 5.1 in Magnacut almost 3 years ago, finally, reached someone within the company to change my order from Magnacut to CPM-3V due to my displeasure with their Magnacut issues and no longer have confidence in the steel. So, all this time has passed and he's pumping out all the new 4" models and so on. Also had an EDC 4 on order for 1.5 years. Yet here they are selling them directly to the public, but our pre-orders are just sitting around somewhere! Horrible business model! Yes, I feel bad for him with these Magnacut issues, but STOP running out these new models when you have all these pre-orders just sitting around and not being delivered! He needs to focus of getting his pre-orders delivered before starting new projects! 🤔🤔
Regardless of the issues about him he makes an awesome knife. I just picked up an EDC 4 yesterday and I have gone over it from end to end and it is 100% no flaws. I've been looking for a particular fixed blade for years and kept holding off because either I didn't like something about the knife or the sheath. His knifes check every box for me. I understand the concerns of paying for something and not getting it. I'd be upset too. Hopefully he makes it right.
That's what got me making content was an edc4 that I was impressed with!
So incredibly stoked still that I got my hands on the Ursus Cub!!✊️🔥✌️💚
Yyyeeessssss
Don’t worry about anything unless it’s life threatening . Day by day brother and things will come together surrounded by good people . Have a great show
I just read an email from Survive I received back in 2014; at that time were issues with the screws and the g10 lol. Always excuses with Survive Knives 😂
Excuses excuse a problem-
Which in this case might not be aplicable.
However small businesses will always have some problem they are dealing with.
They are reasons for difficulties, not excuses, because most of the time the excuse nothing.
How these reasons are handled is what makes or breaks a company
Great perspective jacob!!! Really shines a light on a whole other side. Most consumers do not think of this aspect of the game
Agree with your opinion on the living wage. I remember a teacher when I was a kid telling us we’re all hypocrites, it’s up to you how much of a hypocrite you want to be aware of
This video and your opinion is again a reason to support you, your company and your channel. Thank you.
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A perfectionist has a inner drive and growing stress to complete a task as efficiently as possible...Procrastinator finds excuses to avoid doing the parts they don’t want to deal with...I see a continued pattern of using his “high standards” as an excuse.
The stress Guy continues to create for himself would have driven a perfectionist nuts long ago...Just Say’n
FYI: Guy stated in his last few videos that he is finding these imperfections in all stages of his machining and finishing processes.
I wasn't familiar with that last part- are you sure he didn't mean all the way throughout the thickness of the product?
2:19 into there video Under The Microscope: CPM Magnacut he describes what he’s been seeing...
I would also think that if there is issues with Magnacut as described it would be in Crucible’s production processes rather than Niagara’s...
@dlrmon1 guy explains the difference of why it would be Niagara and not Crucible when he explains how it is recieved from Crucible vs how Niagara presses it into sheets- for what that is or isn't worth.
I took it as Niagara‘s processes just exaggerating the issues already in the steel...
UPDATE! Just after my first post, I sent an email and asked for my money back, I told them I no longer had confidence in Survive Knives as a Company and all the DRAMA coming out of their business, I requested an immediate refund on my GSO 5.1 and EDC on order. Couple of days later, get an email my GSO 5.1 in 3V was on it's way, still have not heard about my EDC? Don't want to push my luck! "BTW, the GSO is fabulous!" But the emotional drain really takes it out of you! About 2 months ago, I requested 3V instead of the Magnacut I originally ordered, but I actually prefer 3V .
I own many knives with powdered steels (serie and custom) and all are good, some are better and my best knife with CPM MagnaCut so far is the TRC Pohlheim. The Pohlheim is a great knife, great steel and heat treatment (63 hrc), no problems with corrosion and no problems with toughness and edge stability.
Trc makes some amazing stuff!
Definitely a strange situation. Guy seems genuine. Definitely business mistakes were made, but I think there is probably an issue that he is seeing. Their knives are great, the ones I have owned.
A well-reasoned, thoughtful, and even-handed video. He must be a shill! 😀
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Personally I believe that Survive Knives are full of shit and should start their process of insolvency. And send a big apology to all of their customers and give as much money back to pre paid orders as they can....
Which would be zero
Be safe on the road. Appreciate you & what you do.
Felt that sigh at the end, that was real. I've been freelance for 25 years, it's a hustle!
I'll add for the record, that your non-judgement was wise and as it turned out it was none of the above. The world is often more complicated than we first think.
Thanks for sharing your perspective.
I wish you knew how bad I want an ursus cub I've waited years for the potential for it man I hope it's as perfect as I believe it is going to be. Enjoy blade show!!!😊
It's so good!
Thanks man!!!
Guy has not offered a refund.
To you specifically?
To anyone with back orders
@@nandayane oh that's likely true. I know a few people who pressed did however get refunds.
@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors he took 400 dollars off me in 2021 for a GSO-12, when he failed to deliver, ignored all my requests for a refund. That is theft pure and simple.
Survive will just ghost you or send a copy/paste response. I tried to get a refund from them and they basically sent a copied message saying the money has already been spent to run their business. Contact whichever service you used to order the knife and try to get a refund that way. Even if you’re over the refund or inquiry period, mention how they don’t respond to any of your requests and gather up all the emails you’ve sent to Survive. I was a year over to request a charge dispute but my CC company still gave me a refund after I explained the situation. Good luck.
Used my refund to get an Architect 5.5.
Dirt Bag is an UNDER STATEMENT!! But, I agree.
Saw you on John's channel at the homesteading show in Kentucky. Your my next knife to get for a fixed blade especially love the red and white one.
Glad to hear it man!!!
Looking forward to how this pans out
This is the first I have heard of the situation. Dr. Larrin Thomas has always been a benefit to the knife community in my opinion. However, weird things can happen in business relationships, especially with money and reputations involved and at risk.
Everybody talks about survive, nobody talks about those who pre ordered all those knives, and allowed this clusterfuck to go on. obviously y'all did not learn with the gaming industry. Never pre order, in any way, anything.
Lmfao😂 ohh man two completely different industries.
But I get you I really do but so different because I can sue for not getting my knife
Preorder a video game and hoping that the game is going to be good is just a bad idea in general
The suggestion in one of @SurviveKnives recent videos was that each knife on the back order would take 1.5 hours to finish. If there are 100 knives, 5x30 hr weeks (or 3x50hr weeks) would finish out orders that are several years old. Seems like time well spent…..
That does sound like time well spent to me however on the other hand I know that when you are running a business and paying bills you can't just set aside 3-5 weeks of labor for work who's money is already gone.
You have to balance continuing to make enough money to pay the bills, do all of the shop upkeep and the little things that inevitably constantly pop up, AND working on the backlog.
I think personally that he should have been more aggressive with the backlog for a long time at this point but I am certain that he can't just sit down and say goodbye to 3-5 weeks of labor while businesses paying the bills, paying the employees, and paying ones own bills.
@@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors According to his videos, and website, they have a large supply of finished knives that are available and for sale, specifically for that reason. (Again, working extra on making knives to be sold and shipped immediately, rather than work on years of backlog).
Which is why I have been telling people that if they want a survive! to buy one that is in stock.
It's the right way to do things for survive! at this point I think
@@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors I already have $300 invested I an order from 9/12/22… I’m not spending more money on a company until they give me the product I was promised 2 years ago.
@JoshSweet well yes, that makes sense.
I was speaking of what I tell folks to do.
If I had a pre order from 2 years ago I wouldn't be buying anything either.
A portion of those wanting and saying they deserve a living wage are unemployed and don't want to work.
Safe travels, Jacob.
Very true
Man I thought you were Jordan B. Petersons younger knife obsessed brother.
Good video 👍🗡️🔪🇺🇸.
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Who would buy anything from a company called SURVIVE! haha
I do wonder what other knife companies blades would look like under this process he is using. IF he checked other companies blades in the same steel & found the same issies then maybe its something all magnacut blades have but nobody noticed.
It would be interesting to see.
I saw a comment on one of his videos about someone having Reiff knives that had inclusions
Interesting. Thanks. toronto canada.
Agree with you. I've watched a few of his explanations, and it seems just like a bad deal all around. At the end of the day, one of them should take the loss to own up to it and move on. I could respect that. If that's the forge company paying him back for the bad steel. Or him just saying whatever he may have done to cause this and if he knows or finds out with his 3rd party testing. Then apologize if that is appropriate, then move on.
Good informative rant. I'd like to hear one on Montana knife company, because I'd like to hear ypur perspective on them.
Ugh I should...
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I've been looking at Montana Knife Company knives. Anything I should be aware of before buying one?
@michaels7499 if you don't like your government, feds, or psyops and you do like getting a good value for your money I wouldn't.
@@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors Well I don't like my government or the feds at the moment and I do like good knives that have good value. Thanks man. I hear all the hype of how good they are so was looking at them. Thanks again.
The guy is backed up and using everything as an excuse to me. He can’t even refund people their money and that says alot. Hope I’m wrong and I’m glad I got a Reiff Knife in Magnacut and loving it!
Reiff is fantastic!
One more comment! You mentioned that Survive MUST focus on their backlog of orders, but this has been going on for around 10 years now with the long waits and back order logs stacking up! So what ever his business model he's using is NOT working! REMEMBER THIS: Doing the same thing over and over agin and expecting different results is call INSANITY! He can't continue to operate in this manor! Some of the 8"-10" GSO's took around 8 years of waiting! That's unacceptable! I would love to just get mymoney back and move on, but that's not going to happen either! And the LAST thing I'd like to point out is he MUST raise his prices! He is so stuck on keeping the same price point when EVERYTHING, including delivery cost have sky rocketed.People are easily paying $400-$500 for top of the line quality knives. Keeping his prices artificially low is only hurting himself and the company! Labor cost to are exploding not to mention the utilities, gas and electricity cost of his factory have doubled in the past 5 years! Guy, RAISE your prices about 20-25%, your knives are worth more than you're selling them for in todays markets!
I agree on all points- and as much as I LOVE low prices I do think that's a big part of what is killing him!
Well said!
@@JustinDeLeon-sj1xr unless you buy one in stock- then you get an amazing product at an amazing price with quick shipping. 🤷♂️
Interesting question though. Would you put your own money down for a preorder with them?
That question was answered in the video
@@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors ah I might have missed that bit, I just recall you saying you didn’t have any skin in the game with them at the moment. All good :) I’ve been a lucky one at getting my three orders refunded before the 6 month PayPal cutoff.
@CodgersUnited it just makes sense that now that they have knives in stock generally that folks who are wary of the pre order, likely for good reason, just wait till the knife they want is in stock like every other knife company.
That would be problem solved immediately.
If nothing else Survive!'s customer base and business model is interesting that's for sure.
Looking forward to more coverage on this and especially on the Ursus Cub! 😊 What does it look like under the scales, is it skeletonized?
I was interested in this since I wanted to find a fixed blade small enough to EDC but still tough enough to do some bushcraft with. The Ursus Cub seems to tick all the boxes for me so far, with 90 degree spine, stainless, saber grind, overall size and blade length, kydex sheath and comfortable looking handle.
Not sure how much time you’ve had with it, but do you see any issues with it processing wood for small fire prep, with maybe 2” diameter baton work?
Thanks!👍🏻
So due to blade show I haven't taken the scales off yet or used it a LOT but so far I have NO concerns about any practical fire prep.
It is a SWEET size little knife!!!
@@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors Thanks! Lookin forward to more reviews.👍🏻
Good take until the rant at the end. You provide a service and/or goods. Your customer might be a business owner or a company man and regardless of where their money is coming from, it's coming to you. They dont owe you anything besides the money that they already paid to you for your goods/service. How you run your business and your hurdles are your own at the end.
I think there might have been a communication barrier somewhere in there, I don't disagree.
Oh boy so the conspiracy theorists are weighing in talking about fake samples….jeesh. So let me coin this as “steelgate”
It doesn't make a lot of sense.
Doesn’t White River Knives make the AK 5.5 and 6.5 from theknifeconnection in 3v?
And magnacut, yes.
I think WRK makes the S35VN and Magnacut ones. The 1095 and 3V ones are still made by TOPS.
@@TheAverageJoeX I quite certain that I saw that the 3v was done by wrk&t.
I think it's only the 1095 that tops does.
@@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors it could vary by model. I didn't ask for specifics on all the models, but the owner told me that the AK 6.5 in 3V are made by TOPS.
@@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoorsmy 1st run 3V AK 5.5 is definitely made by Tops, labeled as such on the blade.
Don't know the current ones, though I thought they said the 3V ones were still Tops and the other CPM steels were White River.
I think 2024 is going to declare survive. I'm rooting for him though, I have a few orders in and looks like the EDC 4 in k890 is about to ship...the two orders in magnacut, who knows with this ongoing crap. But I for one believe him and think he is being genuine, but then I don't have a 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 year old order with him either. But then even Chris Reeve has a 6+ year delivery timeline if you order direct...so its certainly not unheard of for long waits. I mean he really just got his own manufacturing going this past summer so I think he is headed in a good direction at this point and 2024 will be his turnaround year if he doesn't get any more bad materials. I personally think (all speculation as usual) that he got a bad ingot...shit happens, crucible should make him whole figure out their processes so it doesn't happen again...this all would have just blown over, none the wiser...
Well, let’s just state the obvious. He probably needs that money to stay afloat and hopefully soon it won’t be that way. Anyway, it’s not that the criticisms of survive aren’t warranted and the excuses though valid will only carry so far if he doesn’t turn it around pretty quickly. But the fact remains that no matter how Chris Reeves handles it. They still have a six year wait so it’s certainly not unheard of for very long leadtimes in this industry.
Well I’ve received two of my four orders. The remaining two are magnacut so we’ll see. But the two I have received are best fit and finish I’ve ever seen in such a reasonably priced blade. Sorry Chris Reeve would probably cost 3-4x more for the same thing.
So, let us help them Survive. Help them live up to the name “Survive”. We will all Win in the end. 👽👍. Clean it up, keep moving forward.
CNC shop worker here, prior overseas contractor and LE/Corrections: We are personally seeing bad differences in steel that we order for our parts and those variations come from US suppliers sourced locally to out of state. That causes chattering, problems with run time, set up and breakdown( throwing or using up inserts prematurely) So material no matter where sourced for whatever is a major issue, bad management in every business and factories are a major issue (lots of BlackScout Survival mentalities try to play management and that is no joke) .....as far as inspection goes once again manpower, numbers and resources are an issue. No one wants to work anymore and puts undue hours and stress on those that will MPI equipment costs money to buy, run and maintain so tough call.....MPI is by far IMHO the way to find those flaws. I guess my point is these are not "excuses" these are major problems within the steel and manufacturing industry that have no current easy solution.
I can see that being the case.
The entire economy is MASSIVELY overstrained right now with rocketing inflation, stagnant wages and a socially engineered, worthless population devoid of morals or character.
We are in for it.
Gary Creely made a good video about the steel part - not about the other issues --------------------- should have just waited like 1 minute late in the vid -- oh well
It happens
No he didn't
@@tacticalcenter8658 somebody isn't paying you enough to do a good job lol
@@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors clout chaser
Thanks for playing your hand.
Not that it was necessary from the person who commented "donuts are bad for you" on a knife video 🤣🤣🤣
Seriously though, whoever is paying you is clearly cheap.
Find a better contract
10:30 survive knives is the only company using the 'peen process' - so if it is so effective why has it not been patented/tm'd and then licensed to other companies for them to use? and no one else in the entire world has thought up this 'peen process'?
You make it sound like that couldn't happen.
Do you know what it costs to patent something (it wouldn't be a trademark)
Then once it's patented do you understand what that patent actually does for you?
I don't know anything about this process but let's think about how we build these logical bridges.
Guy says the process is “used in other industries” (he said it is used with some titanium processing). I haven’t heard him mention or give an example of another knife maker using it.
Jacob, I would like to understand what you mean when you say that nobody is your competitor. Please will you comment?
Nobody else can sell what I sell because I sell myself.
If someone wants an XK&T they want an XK&T.
I happily talk to people about other brands fantastic knives in almost every channel because im not worried about someone buying someone else's knife.
If they like their knife they will buy it. If they like my knife they will buy that too.
Very few of my customers buy only one knife. The idea that for one person to prosper they have to take everyone else down is silly.
Glad to hear you having Survive Knives back and i definitely agree with much you have said especially when it came to Guy
Not sure what is and whats not.. But i am concerned about all the customers saying they aren't getting their orders over the last 10yrs.. seems to be alot of people... But also how many people are lying and never placed an order...
The problem with that Bark River knife that Dutch Bushcraft broke was the laser cut gimping just like what Buck had with the Hoodlum knife. When you use a laser to cut on a knife you need to go through a normalizing cycle to relieve the stress of the metal. It is now coming up on 19 months with no product yet reviewers seem to get knives.
No product from Survive! or from BRK&T?
Jimping itself is a stress riser- I do find it surprising that brk&t laser cut them but I guess it makes sense.
Not the shit-tang?
Would you suggest people wait on buying magnacut knives until we find out more?
on the forums BRKT & Survive knives both have very strong detractors ??? tread cautiously
Nah, I think it's g2g. I have beat on a few examples of it at least.
@@blueswan2175 for good reason
Magnacut is fine when heat treated right. Just get it from a good custom maker.
@@drunknnirishLike Creely
I ordered gso 4.7 back in 2021 guy changed the design of gso 4.7 to a new design so if I ever get my gso 4.7 it will not even be what I ordered it is dog shit I must say
That sucks 😓
Great point there at the end. 😅
Guy does have terrible business practices, but i will say he is definitely not the only one having Magnacut issues. I recently purchased an Architect 6.5 Field Buddy and it has an inclusion like those Guy is experiencing. The only difference is, While the Architect is a beautiful and well made knife, Architect obviously doesn't have the same quality standards that Survive does.
Can you grab some pictures of that and send them to me at thepreppersbunkeroutdoors@gmail.com?
There's a lot of people with inclusion issues with crucible. Its not new either. Its kept out of the spotlight.
@@tacticalcenter8658 by the shadow conglomerate of businesses and influencers who control all knife content.
@@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors clout chaser be ignorant and ignoring facts. Then trying to make anyone that shares something different, is the bad guy. When in actuality, it's you just trying to make fun of that person to make you feel better about your ignorance. I'm in no way a fan of Guy. But he's not making up these issues.
@tacticalcenter8658 I didn't say he was.
In fact you are commenting ironicly on an entire video about it.
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You're a gem
I keep seeing comments about the DBK Bark River broke knife being a one off, how would they know.......
I really admire Guy's determination to sell the finest product. However.... there are people who have been waiting for over 5 years for a product they paid for. A very reputable steel manufacturer is facing claims that nobody else had a problem with. Larrin Thomas, a true pioneer, a man of reputation and integrity, has blocked Guy. Through all of this I don't know who's right, but I DO KNOW there are more red flags here than in all of Asia.
Yeah, Larrin is a legend!
Well i can say this all you folks who ordered knives from this mfg need to file a class action law suit claiming buisness fraud.
Force this mans hand. Make this man anwser for his actions or inactions as such.
Other companies dont seem to have issues producing products with same materials. Im not an expert in steel or knives but it seems to me other knife makers have made many thousands of knives with like materials with very few issues.
So who do we believe one person whos methods are suspect at best. Self admitted mistakes and learning as we go , or ? . Do we trust the many well respected knife makers who have delivered countless high quality knives to countless customers with very few failures.
As i said im no knife or steel expert but im just raising valid questions one must ask themselves when put in simular situation reguarding any proven product manufactured and sold to the public. Whats more likely than not ?
If sued he would be forced to prove his posture and methods are sound and the rest of the makers would the be left holding the bag. 🤔 .
See what im saying. This maker would have to have some pretty strong evidence and would surely have top experts agree with or dispell his allegations.
Who knows ? He might be a genius or a fraud but i doubt he can be both. Good luck to all who placed orders with this maker.
The problem starts with powder metallurgy. The assumption is that there is enough pressure and heat to create a bond. The old smelting process was guaranteed to create bonds because the metal was liquefied, which it is not with PM process. Smelted stock is also hot rolled down from 8 inch thick ingots to half inch or less in thickness. The hot rolling process removes 99.99% possibility of a void. I do not believe Survive is lying, I do believe PM steels present a quality control problem that does not exist with smelted/hot rolled steel stock. I have owned a few GSO's and I thought they were excellent knives.
If that were true Bohler would have the same issues but Guy says the don't. They are both PM
I think Guy has every intention of delivering knives, but his business managment and manufacturing process development skills are poor. The difference between him and you is that you offered to refund people’s money when there was a problem with delivery.
I work doing process development for manufacturing, and I didn’t see anything that he presented was out of the ordinary when developing a manufacturing process for product in a new material, definitely not anything that would stop delivery in it’s tracks for years.
Normally when you develop a product you make prototypes, then do a pilot run to get idea of how much it actually costs to make the product as well as to dial in the process. You then price in the process including the cost of scrap into the final product. You can then roll with that process and eat the cost of scrap, until you develop a product with less loss. If he had done that before the pre-order (or limited the pre-order to the pilot run, and selling only that until he can put a realistic price on the final product) he wouldn’t be in this position.
Instead of being accountable and refunding people’s money for backorders he is blaming the materials and his suppliers. Challenges are normal when manufacturing new anything, overcoming them is what your customers pay you to do.
Survive! is also a small American brand
i am a knife whore I need help
Sound?
Sometimes the sound is slow to come.
It's working for me
@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors its good now,maybe I was too early or something
when people talk about a "living wage" its in the context of giant multinational corporations that are hugely profitable. The argument is concerning "excess profits" which come as a result of "exploitative labor practices". They're talking about Walmart and McDonalds. They're not talking about small business employers much the local handyman. This stuff isn't rocket science. Every other remotely developed country has it figured out and many of them have a lower minimum wage than the US, or even no minimum wage without these kinds of issues. Walmart literally trains their workers on how to apply for government assistance, it's quite literally part of their business model, and the government enables that. You don't have to be an economist to understand that its a joke and that joke if on you, the serfs.
When people talk about a living wage it's in the context of what they feel they need to make to live.
Trying to act as if every person has something more complicated than that in mind is either purposefully deceptive or HIGHLY optimistic about the regular person's ability.
creely is a generic dime a dozen stock removal guy in his garage grinding steel and selling based on gimmicks like rex121. he admitted himself he doesn't even know what that so called peening process is or what it entails. He's not an expert on anything. he's a guy in his garage. All that process is basically glass blasting. It's a finishing process to make stuff look nice. Nothing magical and has nothing to do with anything.
MC is a steel that pushes the boundaries on what is currently possible. They were not even sure that it could actually work until they made the first heat and it came out okay at the last minute. The issue is, if the process isn't done carefully with extremely tight tolerances a steel like MC is more likely to have issues than other steels including other pm steels that are simpler to manufacture and not nearly as sensitive. If it's done right then it's an excellent knife steel. Other pm steels like say s35vn have a greater margin for error and the end result is unlikely to have such complications.
The socio-economic issue, imo, is the obvious and precipitous decline of the United States. You can't even order a sandwich without a 50/50 shot that it will be wrong or messed up in some way. Notoriously careless American doctors are the 3rd leading cause of death resulting 250,000+ excess deaths each year and injuring millions more. The quality of anything that's made in the US after half a century of unbridled liberal economics, deregulation, and the religion of quarterly profits above all else has hollowed out much of the country. Big American companies are not trustworthy. The American government is not trustworthy. Most Americans are underpaid and hate their jobs. Nobody cares about anything. Would it really be so surprising if this guy got a bad heat of a steel that has to be manufactured extremely precisely? The issue is most guys would just stfu an move on, but he wants to make some grandstand on die on the hill.