I really dig Vulkan's mindset: V: "So, I really like melee, I forged hammers, spears and the like. Still, nothing beats bashing someone's face in the old fashioned way." Some salamander: "What if you burnt the enemies whilst punching?" V: "By the Emperor, my son, now give me a Hug! We shall celebrate your genius with fire whisky!"
Imagine how hillarious it would be if the salamanders get the 9 artifacts just to discover that Vulkan was thrown in a random corner in Trazyn's collection
I can just imagine Vulkan somehow knowing they've all been gathered and then Doom Eternal music starts playing as he single handedly and explosively escapes the museum lol
Fun tidbit: The Salamanders have a successor chapter that they don't really accept called the Black Dragons, they're part of the Cursed Founding with Lamenters, their armor is black with some white accents and they have a mutation that makes them sprout a pair of big and long sharp bones like the equivalent of Baraka's claws from their forearms and one big horn on each of their foreheads. Because of this mutation they are seen as cursed by everyone, including the Salamanders who, while they didn't really ostracize them, they didn't really accept them either. Also, it didn't help that the Black Dragons saw the mutation as a curse and yet cherished them to the point that they THANKED the Emperor for it and the newly-made Black Dragons who had yet to mutate would pray to the Emperor to 'bless them with the curse'.
BDs are also bigger than most other astartees, but typically for a salamander, they are very considerate of civilian life in 40k. And they coat those bones with adamantine plating, making them beasts in mele.
Heard a short story the other day abot the BDs. Cool dudes! They are one of those things were you can clearly see why the imperium will fail at some point, only plot armor can save it!
That founding is famous for gene seed being a bit sketchy Also for a chapter with heavy mutation chance they have remarkably stable gene seed tithes and that’s even weirder because salamanders have unstable gene seed.
After the mention of self sacrificial tendencies of Salamanders, my new headcannon is that The High Lords of Terra must've deemed that the Salamanders and Krieg can't be deployed to the same location because the Kriegsman would run infront of the Salamander and then a Salamander would run would run infront of said Kriegsman and another Kriegsman would run in front of the Salamander protecting his ally and it would repeat over and over again.
@@11jerans No the commissar must outwit the two because a krieg would executed him for cowardice while he'll have a council with the Salamanders for unnecessary Guardsman's death toll
@@stalinsoulz7872 Krieg Commisaars are hilarious. Their whole job is to prevent the Krieg from rushing too blindly. Yet, they also have a higher than normal death numbers because everything about the Commisaar is about raising morale through heroics...but a normal Kriegsman is already at normal Commisaar levels of heroics so it pushes the Commisaars to become even MORE insane in what they try and do to raise morale.
In early m41, the Salamanders and Death Korps were assigned to defend a world from a Necron offensive. After several months of hars fighting, the soulless xenos were defeated in an overwhelming Imperial Victory. Not a single Guardsman or Marine survived.
Also in the salamanders codex supplement is the story where a captain gets pissed at kreig for bombing an area with salamander troops in it and demands to speak to their generals and "When the salamanders captain departs, Voltern onlookers bear witness to a sight they never would have thought to see - genuine terror amongst the kreig officers."
Man, how could you not include Tu’shan knocking the FUCK out of the Marines Malevolent Chapter Master for blasting civilians with whirlwind artillery because he “had no time to save them”?
And the fact that instead of demanding an honor duel he just straight up punched him in the face shows just how extremely pissed off he was and Tu'shan is one of the most honorable chapter masters out there.
To be fair, 1 milion astartees would not even be too much if you compared it to earths population, now imagine the untold gazilions of people in 40k. Trading astartees for humans is not a good deal.
@@HalIOfFamer still does not give them the excuse to be total dicks to regular people, chapters like the marines malevolent are an example, along with the fact they call the regular people "Mortal" when all they are is a human with some extra organs and can live longer.
@@HalIOfFamer Astartes are human. They are recruited from normal human populations. They will always be human. Probably in their best interest to save people overall.
@@Nerdiness1985 some of them are still assholes about it tho. Seeing them more superior than regular humans. I think only white scars and salamanders are the only ones who really care about regular humans. Ultramarines too but screw those blueberries
@@Nerdiness1985 saving humanity yes, saving humans, no. Most astartees will happily sacrifice a billion people if it means winning the war and preventing an ork wagh or a geenstealer cult from spreading sector wide.
I think it's worth noting that during the second war of Armageddon, T'ushan got praised by Dante, chapter master of the Blood Angels himself for helping the civilians. In addition, if i'm not mistaken, this is when the salamanders' beef with the marines malevolent began.
@@lichguard Salamanders doing joint ops with Black Templars would be the funniest shit "Hello brother! I noticed you accidentally targeted several civilian centers for orbital bombardment during our invasion planning! Not to worry though, I corrected this before the coordinates were locked in." *incoherent screaming about mutants* "Aww, you're welcome brother. I look forward to fighting by your side!"
Actually, Salamanders can go centuries without returning home, so being able to spend time with their family can be a double-edged sword, because they could be away for a century or more and by time they return all of their parents and siblings are dead and gone, while their great grand nieces and nephews are ancient and on their death beds. Also, the Fire Walk is definitely taken straight out of Judge Dredd and their Long Walk.
I don't think that's where the Fire Walk is from, there's plenty of ancient cultural practices which have those elements. I think it's just a coincidence
Salamanders keep in touch with their family line. They return home even after centuries pass to the family and are treated as a living ancestor. The salamander shares their memories of the current generations' great grandparents. Keeping the long dead alive in the collective family memory. They also give gifts of things they craft themselves to their families. Soldiers in ancient times would carve horses out of small palm sized blocks of wood. The salamanders come back with things they build out of scrap metal and re-forged into priceless heirlooms. Also, any family that gives birth to a salamander is honored by their town/city. NO ONE will cause them any problems, as they know that should they cause problems for that family a very angry and large man will literally bring fire and brimstone upon them.
@@Nempo13 I got this really wholesome/sad image of a near immortal son going off to war (Like WW1 or 2 image) and coming home to see his parents and siblings dead and his nephews and nieces asking him for his memories of the people they knew (Sort of the "What were they like when you were kids? How was it back then? etc.). He obliges, grows closer to the current generation, and then leaves for another war. He returns again to see the cycle repeated, the grandchildren of his nephews and nieces are now running around, asking for memories of their great grandfathers, people they know the legacy of because of the tales of their grandfathers told to them by this same soldier. Heartbreaking, but heartwarming as he keeps the tales alive to the future generations, a truly melancholy role ontop of being a Space Marine. I can also imagine a family having multiple members raised up, a Marine Lieutenant running into one of their nephews from four generations down the line as a Battle Brother, raised up from the tales of family and heroics.
Fun fact human servants of Salamanders who die sometimes throw themselves into their masters death pyre of their own volition just out of sheer grief or devotion because the Salamanders are so damn good to them they can't cope without them... The Salamanders are literally so good to people that it makes them inconsolable when they die this is some powerful emotions shit they put out.
I’m extremely disappointed they didn’t mention Tu’ Shan slapping the shit out of the Marines Malevolent captain or whatever for bombarding a civilian refugee camp to kill the Orks that was raiding it. It was one of the most notable actions of the third war.
I mean they started the video with 'there aren't many good Salamander books' which we can infer meant 'oh......so you didn't read any of the good ones then?'
As somebody who's just recently finished the Tome of Fire, fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck Marines Malevolent. I hope some very deranged Magos puts uncomfortable things up their bums.
The other "Artefacts of Vulkan" that were found so far can't be used by an individual. The "Chalice of Fire" is a ship that is a factory that is orbiting Prometheus the moon of nocturne. So it is a mobile factory. The "Eye of Vulkan" is a massive laser cannon, which originally was equipped to the "Chalice of Fire" and now is orbiting Prometheus.
@@Ake-TL The "Eye of Vulkan" and the "Chalice of Fire" were found at the same time and the "Eye of Vulkan" was still attached. The Salamanders separated them so that the "Eye of Vulkan" could act as a dedicated defense system for Prometheus. A side note: The Salamanders have 3 "Masters of the Forge", the head tech marines, instead of 1 like most chapters and one of them is the operator of the "Eye of Vulkan"
I think Bricky said he wasn't sure if a Primarch could take on a hundred Dark Eldar but they also covered White Scars, did they not cover Kor'sarro Khan and that time he chased the Dark Eldar into the webway and came back 2 years later with hundreds of their skulls?
The "2 years" is the key factor. But honestly, i could see the same happening with Vulkan. A raiding party came against his city, he rallied his people and they took the raider's ship. Over the course of, like, 2 weeks he kills 50 Eldar solo. Then reinforcements come and the nocturnians prepare an ambush, leaving the rescuing eldari scattered, and after the big fight, Vulkan hunts those as well, accumulating 100 skulls over a month and during dozens of small engagements, instead of killing 100 of them in one fight.
@@marcospatricio8283 at the same time, at that time the dark Eldar would have no idea of what a Primarch is, and have seen this raid as easy pickings, when lo and behold, a freaking Goliath walks out. I can see a bunch of them thinking, 'Oh, this will be easy!', until the first 10 get massacred by his enhanced reflexes, and their poisoned blades do nothing to him as he just tanks the hits and keeps swinging. Obviously embellished, but they likely had no idea what they were facing and thought it was just a large specimen from a typical 'cattle run'.
@@djsaunter oh, absolutely! But at the same time, eldari are smart. I think after the first 10/12 massacred, they'd figure out they should run, and Vulkan would have to chase the other 90/88.
@@marcospatricio8283 hmmm... I wonder how fast Vulkan is as a runner? Salamanders are supposed to be a bit slower in reaction and movement than other legions due to the planet's gravity and size, but as a Primarch... This needs to put into one of those Hulk vs 1000 Zombie type videogame simulators, lol
@@djsaunter Here is the problem with GW's thinking regarding that "slower reaction times and base speed due to nocturne's gravity" thinking. That would actually make them FASTER in all respects when put into the normal gravity of the normal astarte's worlds, and would...by proxy, make them faster than any other chapter when both are on the same world. When you live, fight, and train under heavier gravity...your bone structure, muscle mass, and such would aclimate to it. You take that denser bone mass and higher muscle mass off of that planet and put it on a lesser gravity world...you now have faster and stronger individuals than those who grew up on such a planet.
I currently have 3 favorite legions on the loyalist side. Blood Angels because of their struggle with the twin flaws and that the primaris upgrades didn’t just out right erase it. That internal struggle to tame the darkness within has always been a draw to me. Dark Angels because of the Lion before and towards the end of the heresy. Another character who had fought against the temptations of the dark gods early on in his life. My favorite quote will always be “Loyalty is it’s own reward” while he kicks the shit out of Konrad. Salamanders because of their kind hearts and knowing that they are fighting for the people and not just for their own glory as a legion
Rip with the clock reset. Definitely agree with you for the dark angels. Lion is awesome and probably the closest to big E in attitude. The angels themselves, well there is a reason they’re the first
I like the Dark Angel's because of their design, but the way that they act now is such a fall from grace for them in my opinion. Their obsession with hiding and killing the Fallen shows how much they have fallen when the other founding loyalist have their own heretics that have arisen from them over the 10,000 years. Salamanders are my favorite because they simply are the closest to humans for the Astarties, but it's also their weakness. Helsreach proves this simply because the Salamanders cared too much for humanity. They might've helped, but they did add to the problem as well. The Iron Warriors are my favorite of the heretic Astarties simply based on how they function. They were not corrupted, but tired of being the ones given the terrible jobs. Perturabo compounded that to a breaking point, and even then, they still had those who remained. Death Guard and World Eaters are in the same boat for me as I like their pre-primarch organization structures. They are what I want to make as kill teams.
The Salamanders and the Death Guard are among the tankiest legions, the main difference is that when you hit them, good luck on inflicting damage to a Salamander, meanwhile you can easily shred a Death Guard's body (well, as easy as any other legion), that's just not gonna stop him: he has a lot of shit but none spare to give.
“I think the color scheme looks better the darker the green is” man I can’t wait until DK sees the Dark Angels then, because that green is just beautiful.
@@hunterskidmore1672 oh shit, really? Hadn’t heard that theory, but I’m still fairly new to 40k. If that’s true, then that means a raid on Trazyn’s collection would net two loyalists Primarchs, because there is nothing I want more than to see the clone of Fulgrim return to the fold of the Imperium.
Hrmmm... You really threw Tu'Shan and Bray'Arth under the bus there. Tu'shans story how he FRIGHTENED multiple death Korps commanders, after they shelled a building block, where salamanders were still inside is dope, as is bray arth walking out of the sewers after a week of genestealerhunting, covered in the soot and ash of dead genestealers, hence his name Ashmantle. Also you could have mentioned the other two artifacts, and the reason why he'stan doesn't carry them. Because one is the biggest space laser in the imperium (afaik) and the other is the spaceship it is currently mounted on, which is itself a giant forge for weapons and machinery.
@@Yormolch Honestly, I thought the same. IIRC The backstory to the artifacts is that Vulkan had made loads and loads but destroyed them at one point and these artifacts are some of the last ones left, so I have no idea why the Dreadnought wouldn't count but I think it isn't counted as one of them
Let us take a moment to realize just how HUGE those sewers had to be to fit a bloody DREADNAUGHT in them. Even if this was done while he was still 'alive'...astartes are huge and sewers today are cramped for normal people.
about the salamanders agressors and vulkan he'stan - Salamanders also have a stratagem called flamecraft, where all flame weapons shoot their max amount of shots. meaning you can end up rolling 72 dice, against another SM faction, hits on 3's in assault phase and re roll all 1's and 2's because vulkan hestan. i love salamanders
Tu'shan's stories are the main reasons why salamanders are my favorite legion. When a marines malevolent captain ordered an artillery bombardment on a refugee camp and called it "collateral damage", Tu'shan punched him in the face. The other one is when Tu'shan met Dante, chapter master of the blood angels. He was honored to meet such an ancient and revered marine, and wanted his council on how to be a better leader for his chapter, but Dante spoke to him like an equal. It's a very heart warming moment that represents how these demigods are very humble and just want to do their best for their chapters and humanity. Salamanders are also extremely fun to paint and kitbash with other models, green stuff, and 3d printing. You can put a lot of personality into salamander models.
Ultramarine: "Why are you Salamanders so slow?" Salamanders: "So we can watch our enemies in the eyes when we bonk them." Ultramarine: "Oh that makes se-- _wait bonk?"_ Salamander: >bonk
Yeah, I saw somewhere that if you hit someone with your bare hand, you have a great risk of breaking your hand, and so a big pause in your career if not an outright stop, but with the introduction of gloves more daring punches were possible, more violent ones, meanwhile the brain in the skull is no more protected than before and is subject to quick accelerations and stops against the skull, which leads to all the fun stuff that happens when you take a sponge-like fragile sac of meat full of veins and arteries.
As a Sallie player, and given how few unique units they have, I'm curious to hear what Bricky would like to see added to them from GW if they ever get shown some love I'm not gonna lie, I kind of want to see a giant dragon dreadnought too now. Or much like how Space Wolves rode giant wolves, maybe some Sallies riding giant salamanders into battle even though there is no lore to support that at all. There is supposed to be one of the 7 settlements on the chapter planet where the locals are all strong and skilled fisherman with spears, so a squad of power-spear wielding veterans would be pretty cool to see some day.
on the table top you could have them as vanguard vets with spears and plasma. just say they count as hammers, flavour the plasma pistols as the thrown "profile" of the spears. thoughts?
If you think of it, the Salamanders really share a vibe with the Death Guard legion in a few ways. In terms of the sheer physical size of the marines in their legions compared to others, they both were described as being larger as a whole than most other space marines. They both are extremely resilient; time and time again you think that you’ve killed them for good and then they come back. Their tactics are similar; a slow and steady advancing green wave. I’m gonna go ahead and declare it. Salamanders are loyalist Death Guard. It’s 9:41 on a Wednesday morning. What am I doing with my life?
I remember I fought my friend in a 500 point game and I was playing black templars and my friend was salamanders and was rolling forge master Vulcan and one of my crusader squads suffered heavy casualties as i marched up to him and the battle brother was the last man of that squad passed all his moral rolls and my friend started to roll crappy and from out of no where I own Vulcan with a regular chain sword and his salamander Liberian tried to help him before he died but I had a Culexus assassin with me and he was giving him hell
Imperium: _"noooo you can't just burn everything you don't like!!"_ Salamanders: *BURN BABY BURN, DISCO INFERNOOO!!! BURN BABY BURN, **_LET'S BURN IT TO THE GRROOUUUNND!!!_*
Imperium is not really against burning anything/everyone though... it's just that the salamanders "AND THEN LETS BURN THE ASH OF THE ASH!" is where the rest say "Ok, you are done now. put down the matches, there ar heretics elsewhere that needs to burn as well"
Something worth noting about the Salamander's "slower" nature is that it's actually something they're consciously conditioned into; where most Space Marine chapters are happy to just follow the rule books to the letter or do whatever, the Salamanders are taught to slow down, consider all potential options and select the ones that yield the best results not just for battle, but also for the ones they're protecting. Where the Minotaurs would just open fire into a crowd that's being attacked by their enemies, the Salamanders would instead first analyse the situation and see how they can save as many lives as possible. This more patient perception of things is also relfected in the Promethean Cult, which teaches its adherents to be stalwart, resolute and to endure the greatest hardships without breaking. This conditioning has negative consequences however, as it leads to them being noticeably more stubborn than other Astartes chapters, with some even going to the point that they will refuse to retreat or stop advancing towards their goal, even if it means pointlessly throwing away their life. Final note, no, the Ultramarine's recruitment process is *NOT* easier than anyone else's lmao. The Marneus Calgar comics show it in gruelling detail. It's no less brutal.
Wait that seems like the opposite of what would come from that. They're basically taught to take a moment to be flexible and consider every possibility which is like...the opposite of approaching a situation stubbornly and blindly. Pointlessly throwing away your life would be the last thing being conditioned into considering the best options would lead to. Throwing away your life for a good reason to get the best outcome would make sense but not outright wasting it like....what?
Firesight isn't all that useful. It's a small frequency of radiation on the light scale. The helmets are more useful. But it can help identifying other salamanders in the haze of battle because their armor radiates that specific heat.
I'm not a great painter, so my stuff isn't particularly fancy. I rationalize this by saying "Man, if only you had firesight, you could see how pimped out this Rhino is"
I would just imagine that a salamander trainee going through the trail of being a salamander accidentally taming two mated salamander and riding them into battle.
I kinda want Vulcan to be found hanging out with Eldar. Having been overcome with grief after killing the eldar child. (I know he over came it. But I think being tortured by Curze re opens the wound) and then after taking out the orks he wander the galaxy. Finds some eldar who take care of him and everything. I don’t know. I just think it’d be nice for Vulcan to be found chilling with the eldar the race he hated so damn much
He can still hate the Dark Eldar, but by and large, Vulkan seems the type to be most likely to realize that the Eldar can be a decent bunch. Could make a nice character ark.
The "I'll do it myself and how I want it" thing you explained at 13:50 is exactly what makes Salamanders a pretty fun army to build and paint for someone like me who doesn't actually play. What I mean by that is that I get to fuck around a lot with even basic marines, from trying to give them scales and other dragon bits and bones with greenstuff, modify their equipment a bit here and there and just stuff like that. When I joined the hobby part of 40k about 1.5 years ago and was looking for what to paint my Indomitus marines as I came to the Salamanders subreddit and someone showed off a pretty cool custom helmet they sculpted while writing something along the lines of "The Salamanders are all master craftsmen and our hobbying should try to reflect that" which stuck with me Now problem is that it only fuels my perfectionism and stubbornness to call something complete so I keep going at it over and over, so I'm slow as hell. Still fun tho
You forgot after that coversation when Magnus killed two Salamanders and heard the most terrifying thing in the world "MAGNUS, YOU ARE NOT FRIEND" before being flung out of the Palace of Terra's highest window. Side note, the majority of awesome shit the Salamanders do is outside of Nick Kyme writing them. Armageddon, and granted while War of the Beast isn't the best but Vulkan showing up to kick mushroom ass wholesale is awesome.
One important note for any inquisitor, imperial guard commander, or really anyone that needs soldiers to be fed: They have great culinary skills, as long as you like it well done, if slightly burned. I had one in my deathwatch squad that was my personal cook and he was awesome!
i don't know if it's the same with other chapter but i would've liked for them to talk a bit more about the battles of the salamanders and especially about the fact that tu'shan backhanded the chapter master of the marine malevolant to oblivion
59:59 There are historical examples of this, by the way. During WWI and early WWII, the British were using armored cars fitted with flamethrowers as a sort-of quick-response vehicle to see off any attacks on any of their airbases. If the Fallschirmjager were landing just outside the base, the armored cars could end the threat safely because Fallschirmjagers threw all their weapons out in a tube with its own parachute before jumping, meaning they only had their pistols on them when they landed, and the armored cars were completely safe from retaliation. The flamethrower could be also be used to destroy strafing aircraft or burn enemy supplies dropped to support an attack.
Really glad you did them, though did miss a few things, few things wrong etc. The really major one if the fact that they are *mostly* immune to fire, so putting their hands directly in the flamepire for example does very little to them. The branding as well is only miniorly painful. Another big thing, due to the Salamanders making all of their own gear, they do work close with the Admech and Nocture gives Admech very special jewels to keep them off their asses, mostly. Adrax is actually not a new character, but he is only mentioned in the Salamanders omnibus book, and it kind of explains why he is a bit.. doomer. I would recommend reading it, though its just Salamanders mostly, its still really well written. The sadge shade at chad Ashmantle, just big oof on the dude that was so chad he defended his ships geneseed banks completely alone against a large portion of a recently turned traitor marine chapter. On top of being a meme dreadnought (that was nerfed kinda hard in durability) on the tabletop. On the tomes of fire, Vulkan wrote all of them, then fucked off into the void, all while being completely mad. Absolutely bonkers. Zero braincells. In an ancient dialect that only Vulkan and the Emperor would be able to read, but also nonsensically written, so even they would struggle to understand what he meant. You missed the semi-death star relic of vulkan as well (i cant remember if its just a straight up giga-mangarail cannon of if its like a laser beam field like in that one star wars the clone wars TV series episode).
Funnily enough i started watching adeptus ridiculous because i used to watch DK’s warframe streams amd heard his voice when looking up warhammer lore. I was so confused
Man, wished they talked about how Tu'shan fist fought a Marines Malevelant captain after he heard about the civilian casualties they caused. Or how The Death Korps of Krieg bombed a Hav-block the Salamanders were in. So they dug themselves out and had a talk with the Krieg commander that left him quaking. Or how the Promethium Creed was deemed heretical by Doge Vandire's number two and sent the Sisters of Battle and an army of faith after them but the Sallies kept giving the slip until they threatened civilians. Or how the Iron Dragon Dreadnaught usually destroys the mind of it's occupant unless they have immense will power. But the video is an hour and almost ten minutes already. SO I don't blame then for keeping it as is. I just love my burny boys and want to talk about them more. Awesome episode!
Really love the podcast guys. You deserve all the hype you get and the following you have. Thanks to you guys my girlfriend is joining me in the hobby and is patiently waiting for the thousand sons episode so she can hear you guys talk about her army.
Never in a million years would I ever actually you guys....but the day has come, the transgression was too high... The song ACTUALLY GOES: It's log it's log, it's big, it's heavy, it's wood! It's log, it's log, it's better than bad, it's GOOD DK
Okay. First: Salamanders are epic. Second: I like how we constantly shit on the ultramarines for actually being the best people they can be. Like ''Fucking boyscouts'' Yeah...But...They ARE courageous and HONORABLE. That's why it won't stop spilling from their mouth
I'm 50/50 on whether or not trazyn has Vulcan already. He just swooped in put his ass in a box took em home realized he didn't have all his bad ass action figure accessories, popped back to the Sally's real quick and left one of the most complex ransom notes ever an dipped. He then promptly forgot the whole thing later cause he scored some other dope shit offa some other poor saps.
At 4:30 I heard "oh its the warcrime! Every space marine legion has a warcrime!" I stead of "war cry" and I was just 100% ready to roll with it bc Warhammer 40k is just 90% warcrimes
The best Chapter to be a part of would be the space wolves, because all the other chapters are basically monks whereas the space wolves recruitment process is effectively their homeworld's equivalent of being chosen to go to Valhalla and they act like they're in Valhalla, so they literally drink beer and feast and sing sagas in between going into battle which even before they became space wolves they were raised from birth to love. The world of Warhammer 40k is literally like going to heaven for space wolves.
Assuming you survive the trials which even some primaris couldn't theres parties, drinking, and I could be wrong but the sex drive isn't completely gone. Believe it was Lukas the Trickster that went 12 women in a night. And if you don't get ripped apart you can tame a pupper! No other chapter lets you have pets
.... No.... Everything they do is to ward off the weird. They get drunk to forget how shit thier life is and prey they don't go full wolf next time they survive a fight.
“Log rolls down stairs over in pairs, over your neighbors dog! It’s great for a snack and fits on your back it’s Log log log. It’s big it heavy it’s wood!
07:25 You nailed it We. We were the Salamander's of the Boy Scouts. We literally got Lodge Chapter permission to call ourselves the Pyro Patrol. We "did" win every fire building competition, and our flag was a kerosene soaked roll of toilet paper on a stick.... Also Eagle at 18. Also lost my tote n chip 9 times, one they literally burned it in front of me (k-bars are a big no no... )
There is also a theory (nothing official) that at least two of their new Primaris successor chapters were actually made with the Geneseed of traitor legions. The theory states that the Salamanders were chosen as a "surrogate" founding chapter, because they are way more accepting than other chapters. One of their successors bears striking resemblances in its creed to Loyalist wordbearers for example. I like that theory, although I wouldn't read toooo much into it. Also one other successor chapter of theirs are brooding, secretive assholes, who had the salamander emissary vanish and often hang around belisarius cawl and other admech dudes.
I do agree that, unless there was direct evidence of active wrong-doing, the Salamanders would probably go to bat for any successor chapter secretly created with heretic geneseed. On the other hand, the Black Dragons were an actual Salamanders successor chapter from the Cursed Founding, and even Salamanders are notably cold towards them. Not outright rejection or condemnation, but they aren't embraced. So who really knows.
Also there's the primaris chapter The Knights of Phoenix are obvious Emperor's Children gene stock despite they're officially labeled as Imperial Fists successors.
@@davidfrancisco3502 this is, despite DKs confusion regarding Vulkan, not an Imperial Fist episode. Regardless, you are technically correct, the best kind of correct.
@@davidfrancisco3502 I'd have probably given Phoenix boys a Salamander surrogate situation. Try to head off the ego with a more humble lineage. Also, Phoenix implies fire.
I took a liking to the Salamanders when I first heard about them, but I was afraid that if I learned about them more, I wouldn’t like them as much. Now, after watching this, I can confidently say that I like them more than I originally thought.
I have quite personally enjoyed every aspect of this channel, y'all make for some great and interactive personalities. I'm looking forwards to all your future content, and have basically gone through all of your older content that I had originally missed. Though I have lost hearing in the past year which has prevented me from doing alot of which I used to enjoy I am thankful that for whatever reason it is y'all are still something I can understand. So thanks.
I believe the gathering of the relics is a trick by Trazyn. He has Vulkan in his museum and when the relics are brought together Trazyn will then appear and say hay nice work now let’s trade. Give me the relics and I’ll give you Vulkan.
Thank you so much for everything you all have done this year. I can't describe how grateful I am for listening to this podcast. So keep up the good work and happy new year!
I really loved this episode everyone. Everyone of you deserves all the praise and adoration that you have received, and I look forward to another year of ridiculousness. Thank you Shy, Bricky, and DK.
I like the Alpha Legions natural talent of deception, infiltration, and creating a network of spies and saboteurs. I like that the Thousand Sons are scholars first and are also natural powerful Psykers. I think it gives them an additional view point of everything. As for the Dark Angels, they are and will always be the 1st. Their geneseed is stable they have aspects of the other Legions. There's nothing not to like about the 1st to me. 🤷🏿♂️
You guys do a great job of the podcast and deserve all the success you've earned, youve done a better job hyping up warhammer 40k than games workshop ever do and may slanesh do fucking horrible things to them if they even think of coming after you guys.Have a great new year. 👍
I didnt really know alot about the Salamanders so thanks for the cliff notes. That said I've read very few books with them but my favorite Salamander book is The Damnation Of Pythos.
I really dig Vulkan's mindset:
V: "So, I really like melee, I forged hammers, spears and the like. Still, nothing beats bashing someone's face in the old fashioned way."
Some salamander: "What if you burnt the enemies whilst punching?"
V: "By the Emperor, my son, now give me a Hug! We shall celebrate your genius with fire whisky!"
I like this
@@brandoncarter5662 sound similar to The Ultramarines that actually like to use axes
Bro i read Vulkan's part in the TTS Vulkan voice and now I can't stop laughing
@@Ranger-Cealers I know, right? 😭🤣🤣
@@Ranger-Cealers I love his Caribbean accent in tts it’s great
Imagine how hillarious it would be if the salamanders get the 9 artifacts just to discover that Vulkan was thrown in a random corner in Trazyn's collection
Trazyn trying to get the full set
I can just imagine Vulkan somehow knowing they've all been gathered and then Doom Eternal music starts playing as he single handedly and explosively escapes the museum lol
That’s made extra funny considering Trazyn tried to steal one of the Salamanders’ artifacts once.
@@rebel1717 more then once
@@samfire3067 yup, and it’s basically “fine if I can’t have your toys, then I’ll have your dad.”
Fun tidbit: The Salamanders have a successor chapter that they don't really accept called the Black Dragons, they're part of the Cursed Founding with Lamenters, their armor is black with some white accents and they have a mutation that makes them sprout a pair of big and long sharp bones like the equivalent of Baraka's claws from their forearms and one big horn on each of their foreheads. Because of this mutation they are seen as cursed by everyone, including the Salamanders who, while they didn't really ostracize them, they didn't really accept them either. Also, it didn't help that the Black Dragons saw the mutation as a curse and yet cherished them to the point that they THANKED the Emperor for it and the newly-made Black Dragons who had yet to mutate would pray to the Emperor to 'bless them with the curse'.
BDs are also bigger than most other astartees, but typically for a salamander, they are very considerate of civilian life in 40k. And they coat those bones with adamantine plating, making them beasts in mele.
"To bless with a curse" is the oxymore of the fucking century XD
Heard a short story the other day abot the BDs. Cool dudes! They are one of those things were you can clearly see why the imperium will fail at some point, only plot armor can save it!
That founding is famous for gene seed being a bit sketchy
Also for a chapter with heavy mutation chance they have remarkably stable gene seed tithes and that’s even weirder because salamanders have unstable gene seed.
So we actually DONT KNOW if they are salamander successors. That relation is theory and official sources only say suspected successor.
After the mention of self sacrificial tendencies of Salamanders, my new headcannon is that The High Lords of Terra must've deemed that the Salamanders and Krieg can't be deployed to the same location because the Kriegsman would run infront of the Salamander and then a Salamander would run would run infront of said Kriegsman and another Kriegsman would run in front of the Salamander protecting his ally and it would repeat over and over again.
Sounds like a great way to advance quickly without needing a commissar to threaten regular guardsmen
@@11jerans No the commissar must outwit the two because a krieg would executed him for cowardice while he'll have a council with the Salamanders for unnecessary Guardsman's death toll
@@stalinsoulz7872 Krieg Commisaars are hilarious. Their whole job is to prevent the Krieg from rushing too blindly. Yet, they also have a higher than normal death numbers because everything about the Commisaar is about raising morale through heroics...but a normal Kriegsman is already at normal Commisaar levels of heroics so it pushes the Commisaars to become even MORE insane in what they try and do to raise morale.
Followed by the sound of Yakety Sax in the background
In early m41, the Salamanders and Death Korps were assigned to defend a world from a Necron offensive. After several months of hars fighting, the soulless xenos were defeated in an overwhelming Imperial Victory. Not a single Guardsman or Marine survived.
Also in the salamanders codex supplement is the story where a captain gets pissed at kreig for bombing an area with salamander troops in it and demands to speak to their generals and "When the salamanders captain departs, Voltern onlookers bear witness to a sight they never would have thought to see - genuine terror amongst the kreig officers."
There are three things all wise men fear:
The Sea in a Storm
A Night with no Moon
And the Anger of a Gentle Man
Do not get in the way of a man's kindness. All that will remain will be fury.
Man, how could you not include Tu’shan knocking the FUCK out of the Marines Malevolent Chapter Master for blasting civilians with whirlwind artillery because he “had no time to save them”?
And the fact that instead of demanding an honor duel he just straight up punched him in the face shows just how extremely pissed off he was and Tu'shan is one of the most honorable chapter masters out there.
And then Tu'Shan walked out without a single word and the entire imperial command staff was like "N i c e".
Tu'Shan, who was praised by Lord Dante, my man gets all the praise he deserves, his own model
A lot of people have mentioned this in the comments.
Luetin for knowledge
Auspex for tactics
Adeptus Ridiculous for KEKs
This is the way
Majorkill for Battlemace 40,000,000 hentai
Are the other 2 different lore channels?
@@AZIONG651 if you are asking me then: Auspex Tactics is about tabletop tactics, unita and synergies
Luetin is the best 40k lore chanel on YT
Badger for the *C H A O S*
The Salamaders: AKA - One of a few Chapters that actually gives a shit about normal human and will sacrifice themselves to defend them.
To be fair, 1 milion astartees would not even be too much if you compared it to earths population, now imagine the untold gazilions of people in 40k. Trading astartees for humans is not a good deal.
@@HalIOfFamer still does not give them the excuse to be total dicks to regular people, chapters like the marines malevolent are an example, along with the fact they call the regular people "Mortal" when all they are is a human with some extra organs and can live longer.
@@HalIOfFamer Astartes are human. They are recruited from normal human populations. They will always be human. Probably in their best interest to save people overall.
@@Nerdiness1985 some of them are still assholes about it tho. Seeing them more superior than regular humans. I think only white scars and salamanders are the only ones who really care about regular humans. Ultramarines too but screw those blueberries
@@Nerdiness1985 saving humanity yes, saving humans, no. Most astartees will happily sacrifice a billion people if it means winning the war and preventing an ork wagh or a geenstealer cult from spreading sector wide.
"Brother, get the Flamer, the Heavy Flamer."
yes brother Sargent
Yes, brother Barachiel, i realize you want better armor. BUT NOW I CAN PURGE HERETICS IN THREE DIFFERENT KINDS OF FIRE!
Must you whip it like a noodle at a swimming pool?
“What is that? It’s my ex-wife Karen!”
“I’m gonna burn these xenos like I burned the custody papers!”
The Hersey! it burnsss
I think it's worth noting that during the second war of Armageddon, T'ushan got praised by Dante, chapter master of the Blood Angels himself for helping the civilians. In addition, if i'm not mistaken, this is when the salamanders' beef with the marines malevolent began.
T'ushan and Dante are broskis. I read it in a Dante book.
@@lichguard Salamanders doing joint ops with Black Templars would be the funniest shit
"Hello brother! I noticed you accidentally targeted several civilian centers for orbital bombardment during our invasion planning! Not to worry though, I corrected this before the coordinates were locked in."
*incoherent screaming about mutants*
"Aww, you're welcome brother. I look forward to fighting by your side!"
@@Rhysman30 huh, neat
Iirc T'ushan backhanded one of the Malevolent for their disregard for civilians.
Tu'Shaun smacked the absolute shit out of Captain Vinyard of the Marines Malevolent
Actually, Salamanders can go centuries without returning home, so being able to spend time with their family can be a double-edged sword, because they could be away for a century or more and by time they return all of their parents and siblings are dead and gone, while their great grand nieces and nephews are ancient and on their death beds.
Also, the Fire Walk is definitely taken straight out of Judge Dredd and their Long Walk.
The Salamanders are venerated by their families like living ancestors because they outlive entire generations of their families.
At least they have choice in remaining a part of the family.
I don't think that's where the Fire Walk is from, there's plenty of ancient cultural practices which have those elements. I think it's just a coincidence
Salamanders keep in touch with their family line. They return home even after centuries pass to the family and are treated as a living ancestor. The salamander shares their memories of the current generations' great grandparents. Keeping the long dead alive in the collective family memory.
They also give gifts of things they craft themselves to their families. Soldiers in ancient times would carve horses out of small palm sized blocks of wood. The salamanders come back with things they build out of scrap metal and re-forged into priceless heirlooms.
Also, any family that gives birth to a salamander is honored by their town/city. NO ONE will cause them any problems, as they know that should they cause problems for that family a very angry and large man will literally bring fire and brimstone upon them.
@@Nempo13 I got this really wholesome/sad image of a near immortal son going off to war (Like WW1 or 2 image) and coming home to see his parents and siblings dead and his nephews and nieces asking him for his memories of the people they knew (Sort of the "What were they like when you were kids? How was it back then? etc.). He obliges, grows closer to the current generation, and then leaves for another war. He returns again to see the cycle repeated, the grandchildren of his nephews and nieces are now running around, asking for memories of their great grandfathers, people they know the legacy of because of the tales of their grandfathers told to them by this same soldier.
Heartbreaking, but heartwarming as he keeps the tales alive to the future generations, a truly melancholy role ontop of being a Space Marine.
I can also imagine a family having multiple members raised up, a Marine Lieutenant running into one of their nephews from four generations down the line as a Battle Brother, raised up from the tales of family and heroics.
Fun fact human servants of Salamanders who die sometimes throw themselves into their masters death pyre of their own volition just out of sheer grief or devotion because the Salamanders are so damn good to them they can't cope without them... The Salamanders are literally so good to people that it makes them inconsolable when they die this is some powerful emotions shit they put out.
Damn 😂
Oh no!
I'd rather have that than a master who makes me want to die from non-happiness.
I’m extremely disappointed they didn’t mention Tu’ Shan slapping the shit out of the Marines Malevolent captain or whatever for bombarding a civilian refugee camp to kill the Orks that was raiding it. It was one of the most notable actions of the third war.
I mean they started the video with 'there aren't many good Salamander books' which we can infer meant 'oh......so you didn't read any of the good ones then?'
As somebody who's just recently finished the Tome of Fire, fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck Marines Malevolent. I hope some very deranged Magos puts uncomfortable things up their bums.
A lot of people have mentioned this in the comments.
I always like these episodes where they discuss the Primarch and later the Space Marines associated with that Primarch
*sad Alpha noises*
The way the emperor would want
Me too man:)
@@andrewespinoza2896 you alpha legion are all the same person. What's there to talk about
9 done 9 to go, i cant wait for them !!!
The other "Artefacts of Vulkan" that were found so far can't be used by an individual.
The "Chalice of Fire" is a ship that is a factory that is orbiting Prometheus the moon of nocturne. So it is a mobile factory.
The "Eye of Vulkan" is a massive laser cannon, which originally was equipped to the "Chalice of Fire" and now is orbiting Prometheus.
Did it fall of?
@@Ake-TL The "Eye of Vulkan" and the "Chalice of Fire" were found at the same time and the "Eye of Vulkan" was still attached. The Salamanders separated them so that the "Eye of Vulkan" could act as a dedicated defense system for Prometheus.
A side note: The Salamanders have 3 "Masters of the Forge", the head tech marines, instead of 1 like most chapters and one of them is the operator of the "Eye of Vulkan"
sounds dope as fuck, sad they didnt mention those bet bricky would have loved it
The salamanders now have successor chapters one of them called themselves the dark Krakens they hunt any big creatures they can find.
Bet they love the Tyranids.
@@varthalgamekiin4931 Oh they do😉😉😉.
If you guys want to put the other salamanders successor chapter in this as wall please do.
They should go to the kerbol system. There is a little race that fought against kraken everyday.
That sounds like every space wolf chapter ever
I think Bricky said he wasn't sure if a Primarch could take on a hundred Dark Eldar but they also covered White Scars, did they not cover Kor'sarro Khan and that time he chased the Dark Eldar into the webway and came back 2 years later with hundreds of their skulls?
The "2 years" is the key factor. But honestly, i could see the same happening with Vulkan. A raiding party came against his city, he rallied his people and they took the raider's ship. Over the course of, like, 2 weeks he kills 50 Eldar solo. Then reinforcements come and the nocturnians prepare an ambush, leaving the rescuing eldari scattered, and after the big fight, Vulkan hunts those as well, accumulating 100 skulls over a month and during dozens of small engagements, instead of killing 100 of them in one fight.
@@marcospatricio8283 at the same time, at that time the dark Eldar would have no idea of what a Primarch is, and have seen this raid as easy pickings, when lo and behold, a freaking Goliath walks out. I can see a bunch of them thinking, 'Oh, this will be easy!', until the first 10 get massacred by his enhanced reflexes, and their poisoned blades do nothing to him as he just tanks the hits and keeps swinging.
Obviously embellished, but they likely had no idea what they were facing and thought it was just a large specimen from a typical 'cattle run'.
@@djsaunter oh, absolutely! But at the same time, eldari are smart. I think after the first 10/12 massacred, they'd figure out they should run, and Vulkan would have to chase the other 90/88.
@@marcospatricio8283 hmmm... I wonder how fast Vulkan is as a runner? Salamanders are supposed to be a bit slower in reaction and movement than other legions due to the planet's gravity and size, but as a Primarch... This needs to put into one of those Hulk vs 1000 Zombie type videogame simulators, lol
@@djsaunter Here is the problem with GW's thinking regarding that "slower reaction times and base speed due to nocturne's gravity" thinking. That would actually make them FASTER in all respects when put into the normal gravity of the normal astarte's worlds, and would...by proxy, make them faster than any other chapter when both are on the same world. When you live, fight, and train under heavier gravity...your bone structure, muscle mass, and such would aclimate to it. You take that denser bone mass and higher muscle mass off of that planet and put it on a lesser gravity world...you now have faster and stronger individuals than those who grew up on such a planet.
I currently have 3 favorite legions on the loyalist side.
Blood Angels because of their struggle with the twin flaws and that the primaris upgrades didn’t just out right erase it. That internal struggle to tame the darkness within has always been a draw to me.
Dark Angels because of the Lion before and towards the end of the heresy. Another character who had fought against the temptations of the dark gods early on in his life. My favorite quote will always be “Loyalty is it’s own reward” while he kicks the shit out of Konrad.
Salamanders because of their kind hearts and knowing that they are fighting for the people and not just for their own glory as a legion
The clock resets
Rip with the clock reset. Definitely agree with you for the dark angels. Lion is awesome and probably the closest to big E in attitude. The angels themselves, well there is a reason they’re the first
Same but for me dark angels are best cuz bathrobes
I like the Dark Angel's because of their design, but the way that they act now is such a fall from grace for them in my opinion. Their obsession with hiding and killing the Fallen shows how much they have fallen when the other founding loyalist have their own heretics that have arisen from them over the 10,000 years.
Salamanders are my favorite because they simply are the closest to humans for the Astarties, but it's also their weakness. Helsreach proves this simply because the Salamanders cared too much for humanity. They might've helped, but they did add to the problem as well.
The Iron Warriors are my favorite of the heretic Astarties simply based on how they function. They were not corrupted, but tired of being the ones given the terrible jobs. Perturabo compounded that to a breaking point, and even then, they still had those who remained.
Death Guard and World Eaters are in the same boat for me as I like their pre-primarch organization structures. They are what I want to make as kill teams.
Dammit...the clock once again denies us!
The Salamanders and the Death Guard are among the tankiest legions, the main difference is that when you hit them, good luck on inflicting damage to a Salamander, meanwhile you can easily shred a Death Guard's body (well, as easy as any other legion), that's just not gonna stop him: he has a lot of shit but none spare to give.
“I think the color scheme looks better the darker the green is” man I can’t wait until DK sees the Dark Angels then, because that green is just beautiful.
Trazin should help them get the other artifacts. Take all of them. Then take Vulkan.
It's commonly believed he has vulkan
Imagine if Trazyn actually had to help the Salmanders without a promise of getting things.
@@hunterskidmore1672 oh shit, really? Hadn’t heard that theory, but I’m still fairly new to 40k. If that’s true, then that means a raid on Trazyn’s collection would net two loyalists Primarchs, because there is nothing I want more than to see the clone of Fulgrim return to the fold of the Imperium.
@@nedcurfman3486 2 Primarchs and chadeus CREEDus
@@aaronstorey9712 I just assume he has Creed next to Vulkan
DK's delivery of "Death to the Emperor" was just superb.
Hrmmm... You really threw Tu'Shan and Bray'Arth under the bus there. Tu'shans story how he FRIGHTENED multiple death Korps commanders, after they shelled a building block, where salamanders were still inside is dope, as is bray arth walking out of the sewers after a week of genestealerhunting, covered in the soot and ash of dead genestealers, hence his name Ashmantle.
Also you could have mentioned the other two artifacts, and the reason why he'stan doesn't carry them. Because one is the biggest space laser in the imperium (afaik) and the other is the spaceship it is currently mounted on, which is itself a giant forge for weapons and machinery.
Don't forget that Ashmantle's dreadnought is the Iron Dragon, literally the first of it's kind made by Vulkan himsel
@@Meuduso1 They mentioned that in the video at least... BTW shouldn't that make Ashmantle himself one of the 9 artifacts?
@@Yormolch Honestly, I thought the same.
IIRC The backstory to the artifacts is that Vulkan had made loads and loads but destroyed them at one point and these artifacts are some of the last ones left, so I have no idea why the Dreadnought wouldn't count but I think it isn't counted as one of them
Let us take a moment to realize just how HUGE those sewers had to be to fit a bloody DREADNAUGHT in them. Even if this was done while he was still 'alive'...astartes are huge and sewers today are cramped for normal people.
about the salamanders agressors and vulkan he'stan - Salamanders also have a stratagem called flamecraft, where all flame weapons shoot their max amount of shots. meaning you can end up rolling 72 dice, against another SM faction, hits on 3's in assault phase and re roll all 1's and 2's because vulkan hestan. i love salamanders
That's a squad of six aggressors for 72 shots
In tactical phase they shoot with +1 to wound and -1 AP
Can anybody else hear "burn, baby burn..." playing in the flames?
Bricky forgot mention the Salamanders normally use Inferno bolter rounds that sacrifices armor penetration for fiery explosions of promethium.
Nice!
Tu'shan's stories are the main reasons why salamanders are my favorite legion. When a marines malevolent captain ordered an artillery bombardment on a refugee camp and called it "collateral damage", Tu'shan punched him in the face. The other one is when Tu'shan met Dante, chapter master of the blood angels. He was honored to meet such an ancient and revered marine, and wanted his council on how to be a better leader for his chapter, but Dante spoke to him like an equal. It's a very heart warming moment that represents how these demigods are very humble and just want to do their best for their chapters and humanity. Salamanders are also extremely fun to paint and kitbash with other models, green stuff, and 3d printing. You can put a lot of personality into salamander models.
Tu'shan didnt just *punch* him. He fucking knocked him out
@@velphidrow knocked him so hard he might have had a vision from chaos.
Ultramarine: "Why are you Salamanders so slow?"
Salamanders: "So we can watch our enemies in the eyes when we bonk them."
Ultramarine: "Oh that makes se-- _wait bonk?"_
Salamander: >bonk
It's actually because we take our time so the flames in front of us go out
"It is also a hammer
I must boop the snoot of this creature
@@imperialinquisitormordecai9688 the last thing a Tyranid hears before getting squashed by a flaming hammer
My boys are presented as giga chads, I expected no less
I've been telling everyone for years!
VULKAN LIVES!!!
VULKAN LIVES!
"STOMP STOMP"
VULKAN LIVES
Stomp Stomp!!!!
Vulkan now that your back you mind talking to your brother about the lamenters? They need some resupply and hugs ASAP!
Fun fact, introducing the glove lead to an increase in deaths in boxing, it seems it protects the hand more than the head of the target
Yeah, I saw somewhere that if you hit someone with your bare hand, you have a great risk of breaking your hand, and so a big pause in your career if not an outright stop, but with the introduction of gloves more daring punches were possible, more violent ones, meanwhile the brain in the skull is no more protected than before and is subject to quick accelerations and stops against the skull, which leads to all the fun stuff that happens when you take a sponge-like fragile sac of meat full of veins and arteries.
More motivational art of loyalist battle brothers please, I need it for research purposes
As a Sallie player, and given how few unique units they have, I'm curious to hear what Bricky would like to see added to them from GW if they ever get shown some love
I'm not gonna lie, I kind of want to see a giant dragon dreadnought too now.
Or much like how Space Wolves rode giant wolves, maybe some Sallies riding giant salamanders into battle even though there is no lore to support that at all.
There is supposed to be one of the 7 settlements on the chapter planet where the locals are all strong and skilled fisherman with spears, so a squad of power-spear wielding veterans would be pretty cool to see some day.
on the table top you could have them as vanguard vets with spears and plasma. just say they count as hammers, flavour the plasma pistols as the thrown "profile" of the spears. thoughts?
On Reddit I saw a guy post about making Outrider Squads ride on the backs of Salamanders. Could work imo
Is it true that salamanders have better regeneration than the other space ?
If you think of it, the Salamanders really share a vibe with the Death Guard legion in a few ways. In terms of the sheer physical size of the marines in their legions compared to others, they both were described as being larger as a whole than most other space marines. They both are extremely resilient; time and time again you think that you’ve killed them for good and then they come back. Their tactics are similar; a slow and steady advancing green wave. I’m gonna go ahead and declare it. Salamanders are loyalist Death Guard. It’s 9:41 on a Wednesday morning. What am I doing with my life?
The emperors will
the right thing
I mean the parallels are there, the death guard are one of the largest legions 🧐
I see nothing wrong with this comment
The Legions tend to have a mirror version on Chaos, it's not always 100% but th similarities are there, and your comparison actually makes sense.
I remember I fought my friend in a 500 point game and I was playing black templars and my friend was salamanders and was rolling forge master Vulcan and one of my crusader squads suffered heavy casualties as i marched up to him and the battle brother was the last man of that squad passed all his moral rolls and my friend started to roll crappy and from out of no where I own Vulcan with a regular chain sword and his salamander Liberian tried to help him before he died but I had a Culexus assassin with me and he was giving him hell
Imperium: _"noooo you can't just burn everything you don't like!!"_
Salamanders: *BURN BABY BURN, DISCO INFERNOOO!!! BURN BABY BURN, **_LET'S BURN IT TO THE GRROOUUUNND!!!_*
Yes BURN BABY yes the salamanders
Imperium is not really against burning anything/everyone though... it's just that the salamanders "AND THEN LETS BURN THE ASH OF THE ASH!" is where the rest say "Ok, you are done now. put down the matches, there ar heretics elsewhere that needs to burn as well"
THEY HIT 15K! Who’s ready for the biggest “JAYSUS” you’ve ever heard when DK learns of the daemon kielbasa?
His body is NOT ready!
15K subs?
So nice of them to share a sneak peek of the next poster in the thumbnail.
They should read Master of Mankind by ADB for an episode on the Emperor.
Or a Malcador episode. That'll fun no matter what 🙂
WHEN WILL THE SUN RISE?
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I hope the salamanders solving their dad's crossword puzzles and colouring book gets animated, the visuals are too good
Something worth noting about the Salamander's "slower" nature is that it's actually something they're consciously conditioned into; where most Space Marine chapters are happy to just follow the rule books to the letter or do whatever, the Salamanders are taught to slow down, consider all potential options and select the ones that yield the best results not just for battle, but also for the ones they're protecting. Where the Minotaurs would just open fire into a crowd that's being attacked by their enemies, the Salamanders would instead first analyse the situation and see how they can save as many lives as possible. This more patient perception of things is also relfected in the Promethean Cult, which teaches its adherents to be stalwart, resolute and to endure the greatest hardships without breaking. This conditioning has negative consequences however, as it leads to them being noticeably more stubborn than other Astartes chapters, with some even going to the point that they will refuse to retreat or stop advancing towards their goal, even if it means pointlessly throwing away their life.
Final note, no, the Ultramarine's recruitment process is *NOT* easier than anyone else's lmao. The Marneus Calgar comics show it in gruelling detail. It's no less brutal.
Wait that seems like the opposite of what would come from that. They're basically taught to take a moment to be flexible and consider every possibility which is like...the opposite of approaching a situation stubbornly and blindly. Pointlessly throwing away your life would be the last thing being conditioned into considering the best options would lead to. Throwing away your life for a good reason to get the best outcome would make sense but not outright wasting it like....what?
Firesight isn't all that useful. It's a small frequency of radiation on the light scale. The helmets are more useful. But it can help identifying other salamanders in the haze of battle because their armor radiates that specific heat.
It also helps detect raven guards who try to hang in the ceiling
@@Lost_Yeti they have a specific broom for getting them out.
I'm not a great painter, so my stuff isn't particularly fancy. I rationalize this by saying "Man, if only you had firesight, you could see how pimped out this Rhino is"
@@mikemarcotte5962 are you me?
The Salamander captain "MC R'de" with his war cry:
"Into the flame, into to the fire with no regard for a elf, fuck that I'm the lord of the game"
I would just imagine that a salamander trainee going through the trail of being a salamander accidentally taming two mated salamander and riding them into battle.
...
Okay, this is something I want, especially with TTS Vulkan's animal handling rolls.
I feel the most important thing I learned from this is that Vulkan is not into feet. Thank you guys for providing us with important lore
I really hope they do an episode on Malcador
I am surprised they have not done it yet, but they will talk about him someday.
I kinda want Vulcan to be found hanging out with Eldar. Having been overcome with grief after killing the eldar child. (I know he over came it. But I think being tortured by Curze re opens the wound) and then after taking out the orks he wander the galaxy. Finds some eldar who take care of him and everything. I don’t know. I just think it’d be nice for Vulcan to be found chilling with the eldar the race he hated so damn much
And then be declared Heretic by the Inquisition
He can still hate the Dark Eldar, but by and large, Vulkan seems the type to be most likely to realize that the Eldar can be a decent bunch. Could make a nice character ark.
@Noob7Zilla What about Gulliman and his Big Tiddy Goth Elf GF? 😂
@@The-Real-JDguilliman would never…
Vulkan quote: NOW GIMME A HUG
3:32 we don’t come here for high quality, we come here to get our silly fix ever since TTS was murdered!
The "I'll do it myself and how I want it" thing you explained at 13:50 is exactly what makes Salamanders a pretty fun army to build and paint for someone like me who doesn't actually play.
What I mean by that is that I get to fuck around a lot with even basic marines, from trying to give them scales and other dragon bits and bones with greenstuff, modify their equipment a bit here and there and just stuff like that.
When I joined the hobby part of 40k about 1.5 years ago and was looking for what to paint my Indomitus marines as I came to the Salamanders subreddit and someone showed off a pretty cool custom helmet they sculpted while writing something along the lines of "The Salamanders are all master craftsmen and our hobbying should try to reflect that" which stuck with me
Now problem is that it only fuels my perfectionism and stubbornness to call something complete so I keep going at it over and over, so I'm slow as hell. Still fun tho
They: Speaking about Slaanesh.
Me: "Kill it with fire"
You forgot after that coversation when Magnus killed two Salamanders and heard the most terrifying thing in the world "MAGNUS, YOU ARE NOT FRIEND" before being flung out of the Palace of Terra's highest window.
Side note, the majority of awesome shit the Salamanders do is outside of Nick Kyme writing them. Armageddon, and granted while War of the Beast isn't the best but Vulkan showing up to kick mushroom ass wholesale is awesome.
I love how Ian McCullum the gun memelord was features with the M2 flamethrower.
At first I thought you said ,"Every legion has a war crime". Which I mean is accurate for like 90% of em.
Its not war crime when you do it on xenos,except marine manevolent
"They're chill. They are just putting whatever they can find on the fire to see what happens."
One important note for any inquisitor, imperial guard commander, or really anyone that needs soldiers to be fed:
They have great culinary skills, as long as you like it well done, if slightly burned. I had one in my deathwatch squad that was my personal cook and he was awesome!
I am now very curious on what the food is like in 40K.
I know bug/human ration bars are common in Hive Cities but not much else.
i don't know if it's the same with other chapter but i would've liked for them to talk a bit more about the battles of the salamanders and especially about the fact that tu'shan backhanded the chapter master of the marine malevolant to oblivion
In the Salamanders, operating a stock bolter is the sign of being an initiate.
All I know from the salamanders is that joke from TTS that they have a fire fetish.
They’re basically the nicest people to do war crimes and care the most about civilians (think the polar opposite to the night lords).
I find their deafness to be hilarious in TTS.
And that Vulkan and the Beast are fused
@@meanestgreen3320 what?
Ah yes, Vulkan's activity book. Also, there is a chaos salamanders chapter called the Dragon Warriors. They're red with black trim.
59:59
There are historical examples of this, by the way. During WWI and early WWII, the British were using armored cars fitted with flamethrowers as a sort-of quick-response vehicle to see off any attacks on any of their airbases. If the Fallschirmjager were landing just outside the base, the armored cars could end the threat safely because Fallschirmjagers threw all their weapons out in a tube with its own parachute before jumping, meaning they only had their pistols on them when they landed, and the armored cars were completely safe from retaliation. The flamethrower could be also be used to destroy strafing aircraft or burn enemy supplies dropped to support an attack.
Really glad you did them, though did miss a few things, few things wrong etc. The really major one if the fact that they are *mostly* immune to fire, so putting their hands directly in the flamepire for example does very little to them. The branding as well is only miniorly painful.
Another big thing, due to the Salamanders making all of their own gear, they do work close with the Admech and Nocture gives Admech very special jewels to keep them off their asses, mostly.
Adrax is actually not a new character, but he is only mentioned in the Salamanders omnibus book, and it kind of explains why he is a bit.. doomer. I would recommend reading it, though its just Salamanders mostly, its still really well written.
The sadge shade at chad Ashmantle, just big oof on the dude that was so chad he defended his ships geneseed banks completely alone against a large portion of a recently turned traitor marine chapter. On top of being a meme dreadnought (that was nerfed kinda hard in durability) on the tabletop.
On the tomes of fire, Vulkan wrote all of them, then fucked off into the void, all while being completely mad. Absolutely bonkers. Zero braincells. In an ancient dialect that only Vulkan and the Emperor would be able to read, but also nonsensically written, so even they would struggle to understand what he meant.
You missed the semi-death star relic of vulkan as well (i cant remember if its just a straight up giga-mangarail cannon of if its like a laser beam field like in that one star wars the clone wars TV series episode).
So basically he wrote the tomes in Pig Latin translated into actual Latin.
@@GamerGrovyle Basically yea.
Funnily enough i started watching adeptus ridiculous because i used to watch DK’s warframe streams amd heard his voice when looking up warhammer lore. I was so confused
Man, wished they talked about how Tu'shan fist fought a Marines Malevelant captain after he heard about the civilian casualties they caused. Or how The Death Korps of Krieg bombed a Hav-block the Salamanders were in. So they dug themselves out and had a talk with the Krieg commander that left him quaking. Or how the Promethium Creed was deemed heretical by Doge Vandire's number two and sent the Sisters of Battle and an army of faith after them but the Sallies kept giving the slip until they threatened civilians. Or how the Iron Dragon Dreadnaught usually destroys the mind of it's occupant unless they have immense will power.
But the video is an hour and almost ten minutes already. SO I don't blame then for keeping it as is. I just love my burny boys and want to talk about them more. Awesome episode!
Salamanders really work hard to earn that "feel no pain" attribute from flames...
Really love the podcast guys. You deserve all the hype you get and the following you have. Thanks to you guys my girlfriend is joining me in the hobby and is patiently waiting for the thousand sons episode so she can hear you guys talk about her army.
Never in a million years would I ever actually you guys....but the day has come, the transgression was too high... The song ACTUALLY GOES:
It's log it's log, it's big, it's heavy, it's wood!
It's log, it's log, it's better than bad, it's GOOD DK
Okay. First: Salamanders are epic. Second: I like how we constantly shit on the ultramarines for actually being the best people they can be. Like ''Fucking boyscouts'' Yeah...But...They ARE courageous and HONORABLE. That's why it won't stop spilling from their mouth
The whole "Immolation" bit, could actually be a good joke for TTS
23:07
The absolute greatest laugh I've had in all of all of Adeptus Ridiculous
I'm 50/50 on whether or not trazyn has Vulcan already. He just swooped in put his ass in a box took em home realized he didn't have all his bad ass action figure accessories, popped back to the Sally's real quick and left one of the most complex ransom notes ever an dipped. He then promptly forgot the whole thing later cause he scored some other dope shit offa some other poor saps.
If y’all can make D20 dice in the same format as the d6 that would be great
Last adeptus Ridiculous episode b4 I ship out for Basic so when I get back in June I’ll have a lot of catching up to do keep up the good work bois
At 4:30 I heard "oh its the warcrime! Every space marine legion has a warcrime!" I stead of "war cry" and I was just 100% ready to roll with it bc Warhammer 40k is just 90% warcrimes
Flamethrowers are chemical weapons so you’re not wrong.
23:20 The most casual renouncement of imperial loyalty I’ve ever seen.
It was fucking funny af.
The best Chapter to be a part of would be the space wolves, because all the other chapters are basically monks whereas the space wolves recruitment process is effectively their homeworld's equivalent of being chosen to go to Valhalla and they act like they're in Valhalla, so they literally drink beer and feast and sing sagas in between going into battle which even before they became space wolves they were raised from birth to love. The world of Warhammer 40k is literally like going to heaven for space wolves.
That requires you to live on Fenris thk
I'm guessing you don't know much about the initiation. They might be the most fun to be once you are, but getting there is worse than most.
That's actually really cool. Everyone else pretty much have to stoically face the universe while the Vlka Fenryka marches into it as heaven...
Assuming you survive the trials which even some primaris couldn't theres parties, drinking, and I could be wrong but the sex drive isn't completely gone. Believe it was Lukas the Trickster that went 12 women in a night. And if you don't get ripped apart you can tame a pupper! No other chapter lets you have pets
.... No.... Everything they do is to ward off the weird. They get drunk to forget how shit thier life is and prey they don't go full wolf next time they survive a fight.
I feel like this is one of the funniest episodes you guys did and the "Tall glass of Slaneesh" line just killed me xD
“Log rolls down stairs over in pairs, over your neighbors dog! It’s great for a snack and fits on your back it’s Log log log. It’s big it heavy it’s wood!
Log log it's better than bad it's good
@@karlnicholson414 Everyone wants a log!
07:25 You nailed it We. We were the Salamander's of the Boy Scouts. We literally got Lodge Chapter permission to call ourselves the Pyro Patrol. We "did" win every fire building competition, and our flag was a kerosene soaked roll of toilet paper on a stick.... Also Eagle at 18. Also lost my tote n chip 9 times, one they literally burned it in front of me (k-bars are a big no no... )
Man can't wait another 3 years to hear about the blood angels.
There is also a theory (nothing official) that at least two of their new Primaris successor chapters were actually made with the Geneseed of traitor legions. The theory states that the Salamanders were chosen as a "surrogate" founding chapter, because they are way more accepting than other chapters. One of their successors bears striking resemblances in its creed to Loyalist wordbearers for example.
I like that theory, although I wouldn't read toooo much into it. Also one other successor chapter of theirs are brooding, secretive assholes, who had the salamander emissary vanish and often hang around belisarius cawl and other admech dudes.
I do agree that, unless there was direct evidence of active wrong-doing, the Salamanders would probably go to bat for any successor chapter secretly created with heretic geneseed.
On the other hand, the Black Dragons were an actual Salamanders successor chapter from the Cursed Founding, and even Salamanders are notably cold towards them. Not outright rejection or condemnation, but they aren't embraced. So who really knows.
Also there's the primaris chapter The Knights of Phoenix are obvious Emperor's Children gene stock despite they're officially labeled as Imperial Fists successors.
@@Bluecho4 wish the bookseries about Salys and Black Dragons would have continued :c
@@davidfrancisco3502 this is, despite DKs confusion regarding Vulkan, not an Imperial Fist episode.
Regardless, you are technically correct, the best kind of correct.
@@davidfrancisco3502 I'd have probably given Phoenix boys a Salamander surrogate situation. Try to head off the ego with a more humble lineage. Also, Phoenix implies fire.
I took a liking to the Salamanders when I first heard about them, but I was afraid that if I learned about them more, I wouldn’t like them as much.
Now, after watching this, I can confidently say that I like them more than I originally thought.
I have quite personally enjoyed every aspect of this channel, y'all make for some great and interactive personalities. I'm looking forwards to all your future content, and have basically gone through all of your older content that I had originally missed. Though I have lost hearing in the past year which has prevented me from doing alot of which I used to enjoy I am thankful that for whatever reason it is y'all are still something I can understand. So thanks.
I believe the gathering of the relics is a trick by Trazyn. He has Vulkan in his museum and when the relics are brought together Trazyn will then appear and say hay nice work now let’s trade. Give me the relics and I’ll give you Vulkan.
20:06 that is freaking hilarious imagine going into your old house and your room is the one of a child because that is how you left it
Ok. Since DK brought up Ren & Stimpy I can't unsee DK as Stimpy and Bricky as Ren...
Thank you so much for everything you all have done this year. I can't describe how grateful I am for listening to this podcast. So keep up the good work and happy new year!
Vulkan also translates to Volcano in Swedish. The big fiery lava primarch from big fiery lava planet is literally named Volcano.
Vulcan is also the Roman God of the forge and blacksmithing, he is the equivalent of the Greek diety Hephaestus.
Vulkan's primarch novel is very good. Also the Horus Heresy novel "Old Earth" is amazing.
I would love to see you guys do the Raven Guard next!
Our sneaky beaky bois need some love
@@samlevy9897 Corvus also does some proper ass kicking and has some really interesting (and honestly quite funny) lore
They have already done an episode about them.
@@Dracobyte Bro that was a whole year ago that episode wasn’t even out, love you tho it’s cool
I really loved this episode everyone. Everyone of you deserves all the praise and adoration that you have received, and I look forward to another year of ridiculousness. Thank you Shy, Bricky, and DK.
I was going to call Bricky out for being ignorant of log, but then I remembered that I'm rapidly approaching my 30s...
49:20 if I saw that I would immediately go from cowering in fear of my life to cheering and crying from the beautiful badassery!
If I could choose a Legion it would either be the Alpha Legion, Thousand Sons, or Dark Angel.
World Eaters and night lords
Why? No shame, just asking.
I like the Alpha Legions natural talent of deception, infiltration, and creating a network of spies and saboteurs. I like that the Thousand Sons are scholars first and are also natural powerful Psykers. I think it gives them an additional view point of everything. As for the Dark Angels, they are and will always be the 1st. Their geneseed is stable they have aspects of the other Legions. There's nothing not to like about the 1st to me. 🤷🏿♂️
@@emperor002002 thank you for answering!
"I AM GONNA PET THIS CRETURE!" - Primarch Vulkan of Salamander.
You guys do a great job of the podcast and deserve all the success you've earned, youve done a better job hyping up warhammer 40k than games workshop ever do and may slanesh do fucking horrible things to them if they even think of coming after you guys.Have a great new year. 👍
Horribly awesome things to them?
@@lucascoval828 no if Gamesworkshop come after this podcast like they did other fan content creators slanesh needs to get out the spiky dragon dildo.
It was so nice seeing Xptolvl3 and Jocat in video with fireballs. :)
Fun fact: Vulkan is the swedish word for volcano
I didnt really know alot about the Salamanders so thanks for the cliff notes. That said I've read very few books with them but my favorite Salamander book is The Damnation Of Pythos.
'Being a space marine is great'.... milage may vary
Watching this I'd love to see an episode solely dedicated to all the different types of weapons and how they work
I feel like having thermal vision isn't all that useful when your primary weapon is a flame thrower...
You didn't have to make that marine on the thumbnail so sexy but thank you for doing that.