You forgot the amazing Magnus and Vulkan moment when Magnus confronts Big E before he goes to fuck up Horus. Magnus wants to return to Big E but he learns the price is letting all of his son's be traitors and killed. And when he asks Vulkan if he could pay that price, Vulkan is like. "Not even for 1." And then Magnus and Vulkan fight resulting in Magnus about to be killed by Vulkan finally selling his soul to Tzeentch and being teleported away along with his son's that were with him.
Big E when he met Vulkan: Saves his life and by extension sacrifices a bit of his pride Big E when he met Angron: lol here watch your friends get slaughtered lmao
No. Big E should up and offered Angron his army so he could take the world. Angron told Big E to fuck off and the Emperor saved him from certain death on the mountain.
@@Ashtor1337 That's pretty much it, literally all Big E. had to say was "Let me just clarify here Angron. I'm giving you this Legion, and if say your first act as commander of that Legion is to rescue your friends, have them become auxiliaries/potential initiates to said Legion, conquer Nuceria, bring it in into Imperial compliance, abolish slavery upon it and bring justice to the high riders for putting nails in my son's head, I'm fine with that." The only reason I can find is somewhat deranged. That Big E. knew Angron felt pain or emptiness by everything but anger, so he intentionally gave Angron something that would stew and leave him forever angered so he could function, and know some degree of perverse "joy".
@@markgresch9944 You’re right but I don’t think Hectors comment was a alternative action but a statement of what actually happened. I’m fairly sure the “should” was a typo and meant to be “showed”
@@markgresch9944 The problem is that I'm pretty sure Nuceria was already under Imperium control, so I don't think Big E would want Angron tearing up a world he owns and screwing up it's economic stability just for revenge
Here's something to include Vulkan: "There will be no Rad or Phosphex in my legion. We shall fight wars humanely. Some things should be left in the dark age." Ferrus: "So, when are you going to stop burning people to death?" Vulkan: "I don't understand the question."
There's an argument to be made that Rad and Phosphex make the planet uninhabitable, but most flame weapons don't. You know, unless you set an entire planet on fire, like Vulcan did to the planet now known as Caldera. You know, when he renamed it after he lit the entire thing and every innocent, non-Chaos aligned, human on it on fire.
@@jagnestormskull3178 wasn'tthere very innocent people left on that planet?? Still compared to other spave marines salamenders do their best to save as many innocents as they can. That deserves respect.
@@berilsevvalbekret772 "wasn'tthere very innocent people left on that planet??" I assume you mean "weren't there very few," and I would say that almost everyone on Caldera was innocent. The worst "crime" (which was not a crime by their planet's laws, and their planet was not a subject of any empire existing during the Great Crusade, so cannot be subjected to the laws of any empire) the people of Caldera committed was invite Craftworld Eldar stay on their planet after that Craftworld saved them from the Dark Eldar. This is a very reasonable and polite thing to do; how rude would it be, if, an army had come to enslave, torture, rape, and murder you, then another army had defeated that army, asking nothing in return, but kick the second army out, rather than trying to learn more about them and why they helped a bunch of strangers? Why would these bunch of Feral Worlders even know the significance of the Imperium's policies towards the Eldar? They've had no contact with anyone outside of their planet since Old Night besides the Eldar. I don't know exactly why the Eldar helped, this was a Feral World completely independent of the several human empires operating at the time, not exactly of strategic importance to anyone. Perhaps there were a high number of shamans on the planet and the Eldar thought that they could teach the shamans the proper ways to use the Warp without risking a Chaos incursion. Maybe this particular Craftworld just hated the Dark Eldar, and after the humans of what is now called Caldera extended the invitation, they stayed. "Still compared to other spave marines salamenders do their best to save as many innocents as they can. That deserves respect." Of course, I agree. IIRC, the Raven Guard (most sons of Vulcan and Corax) also do their best to minimize civilian casualties. And let us not forget the Lamenters.
@@jagnestormskull3178 by the laws of the PLANET, yes they were innocent, by the laws of the IMPERIUM, no they were not. Vulcan is not an instrument of the planets justice, he is an instrument of the imperiums justice. Collusion with the taliban is not illegal in many Arabic Muslim nations, however the US still arrest the colluders when they occupy those areas
I really wish they had included this part: After Vulkan attacks Konrad Curze in a psychotic rage, Curze, knowing that Vulkan can come back from the dead, takes a moment to monologue about how he will find a way to kill Vulkan permanently. Barely a few seconds later, Vulkan lives again, much faster than Curze is used to. Curze: See? This is death. Learn to accept it, brother! Vulkan: eyes snap open Curze: Oh. That was quick...
‘And which would you have been, then?’ Vulkan smiled, though it did little to warm his diabolic voice. ‘A farmer, I think.’ ‘You would take your blacksmiter’s anvil and turn a sword into a ploughshare, is that it?’ ‘Overly poetic, but yes that’s it.’ one of the best excerpts from Vulkan Lives that establishes what Vulkan is like, conversation with the remembrancer Seriph
Look, let's be real here: we all laugh at Shy's edit of Guilliman crying about how much better Vulkan is than him, but the truth is that Roboute would most likely _agree_ with that sentiment: even if he didn't consider him one of "The Dauntless Few", a logical and rational tactician and statesman like Roboute would _surely_ recognize and respect how powerful and selfless Vulkan was. He's not crying for _himself_ in that edit; he's tearing up with _pride_ and _joy_ that his brother is getting the recognition he deserves!
@@Ontarianmm And when he sees the Lamentors (Sons of the gloriously fabulous hawkboi Sanguinius) always struggling through all they do for normal humans to survive.
I find the “This is a hammer” line from Vulkan so badass. Like Kurze thinks Vulkan is gonna retreat cause he has him hammer now and can teleport, and supposedly Kurze planned ahead. Though Vulkan seems to address that he was a little foolish in thinking Kurze didn’t plan ahead, it seems Kurze forgot one important thing, that aside from being a teleporter, Vulkan’s weapon is also a hammer. It’s like Kurze just thought about the teleporter aspect of the hammer, but entirely forgot it was essentially a hammer.
I fucking love it. While GW does a legitimately good job with long monologues delivering badass lines and interesting insults, the simplicity of that statement is just so efficiently cool
@@Darkhunter441995 the details on how kurze got bodied and the 40k meme if Loki and hulk meme except it's kurze and vulkan always cracks me Up. What a perfect meme
Also, Kurze has seen the future and accounted for the one he saw to such a deterministic extent that he didn't mind committing atrocities near the end because it proves the future he saw is real. The fact that Vulkan hit him with the Hammer and it surprised Kurze means that he DIDN'T see it in the future he knows, and that also means that there's a chance he didn't HAVE to commit all the atrocities he did. That one moment completely upsets the understanding of the universe he forced himself to wholeheartedly believe, and if he wasn't insane he probably would have regretted everything he did.
Vulkan is one of the very rare characters in this setting that can really be called pure hero. Him being unable to die almost seems fitting if he represents the tiny flame of compassion that just won’t die no matter how much the galaxy tries to snuff it out.
The quote from Vulkan to Curze is iconic. Getting shit talked by someone you have been torturing and being called a scared little boy in the dark followed by actually getting your ass beat and losing the prisoner....iconic.
"What are we doing for Christmas" "A tale of a REALLY jolly man who loves a good fire and elves-" "Oh?" "-spines breaking as he can't stand them at all. Vulkan time."
@Obsidia Black Civilian hiding from Druhkari, speaking to a Black Dragon: Are you here to kill me? Black Dragon Sergeant: What!? NO! Of course not! Why would you think that? Black Dragon Dreadnought: Because we are literal monstrosities and not the Ultra Marines? Sergeant, gently rubbing his chin-horns: You do have a point.
you should mention vulkan and big e had the healthiest relationship. big e want his son to guide humanity and eventually let humanity took over. vulcan did just that. also when magus met vulkan in the throne room, he expected hatred from his brother, but vulkan looked at him with sympathy and sadness. a great character building moment.
I mean I don’t know if I call that “healthy”. Daddy E wanted that from all his sons (well, the ones he didn’t completely neglect at least) and Vulkan just happened to be one of the few to actually do it.
@@heathenpride7931 no vulkand and emperor had an actual relationship I believe the emperor told vulkan that he was "his greatest creation" or "my success" (thats not verbatim, but it was something very kind from the emperor) and that was due to his nature, as well as his perpetual ability
A Shard of Magnus helped the Salamanders bring back Vulkan. Magnus and Vulkan both were open-minded and kind people. They got along fairly well, but didn't interact much due to no common interest.
To be fair to the wolves, a fun fact: The reason fenris is the Viking planet is that back in the dark age of technology, it was a theme park. Where rich people would go larp as Vikings. But when the human federation collapsed and the birth of slaneesh made travel impossible. They were trapped there, with only what they brought with them. Expecting the descendants of larpers who got to experience the plot of sword art online in person to be entirely normal might be expecting too much
I want one of the lost primarchs to be a space-pirate grown up on a pirate themed planet park, where a Jack Sparrow's AI kept talking to the population for thousands of years and educated him once he arrived on the Planet. And that's why he wasn't yet recovered, because he's a nasty son of a beach plundering the outskirts of the imperium's borders while trading with the pirate orks!
@@SamueL-td7fb Khans planet was more of a coincidence and had more to do with descendent of Mongolians colonizing that planet and with Angron a slave society is as fucked up as it is a common stage of civilization that can happen regardless of influence. Although the Roman themed crap is definitely from people having old statues and reading books on old Rome
Fulgrim's world of Chemos was a borderline death world. It was a world perpetually covered in dust storms and night, where the population had next to no resources to sustain itself and had to work 24 hours a day just to barely survive. They had to work so much that they didn't have any down-time, so no recreation or culture or leisure, just work. They were all crammed into tech-fortresses because being outside with no protection was a great way of getting flayed alive by the dust storms. Of course, cramming the whole population of a world into a handful of fortresses meant living conditions weren't exactly great. They couldn't produce any food of their own so were entirely dependent on trade for food, which wasn't a common occurrence since Chemos was parked right next to a bunch of raging warp storms and the Chemosians had barely any resources to trade with anyways, effectively condemning the inhabitants to slow starvation and martial law to ration whatever crumbs of food they had and to maintain the work load required just for the planet to not collapse on itself. "Not great" is the understatement of the century when it comes to Chemos.
VULKAN LIVES!!!!!! **STOMP STOMP** I have around 6500 points of Salamanders at this time. So happy to see my favorite Primarch/Chapter being covered by favorite Warhammer lore podcast.
I fully agree! I have been playing the 18th Legion since 3ed edition. I also have a sizable table top army. The apocalypse battles got a bit out of hand for a little while. 12000 points in Salamanders and another 8000 points in vehicles. Also, deep breath: VULKAN LIVES! STOMP STOMP
57:07 he had been torturing him for years. Vulkan should have been malnourished to the point of barely being alive, in fact he had been killed many many times, and he should have been insane, and most other primarchs would have been in bad condition under curz torture for so long, but vulkans thing is resilience, and so he surprised curz by suddenly being at full strength, spirit, and wit. Also, Conrad had his full power armor on, and vulkan had nothing. Also Conrad knew the maze. So he really had all the advantages here, and still blew it xD
In early m41, the Salamanders and Death Korps were assigned to defend a world from a Necron offense. After several months of hard fighting, the soulless xenos were defeated in an overwhelming Imperial victory. Not a single marine or guardsman survived.
Those who care the least about themselves paired with those who care the most about others. I'd like to think that the Kriegsmen recieved forgivness from Emperor's angels before the end.
You forgor about how Magnus was in Big E's throneroom during the heresy when Magnus confronted Big E to get his final shard back. And Magnus had that great moment where he learned the price of returning was sacrificing his son's. He looked to Vulkan, asked if he could pay that price in Magnus's shoes and he solemnly said. "Not even for 1"
That's a pretty new story, like everything that happens regarding Vulkan and his Draaksward after they leave the webwayportal on terra. I would also like to hear more about it, but I don't mind Bricky not having read all about it yet.
Honestly, I like that Vulkan is a perpetual. Any other primarch, and they would be exploiting it to the greatest extent they could - it would truly be the op immortal god. For Vulkan, his immortality is a curse. He is the one truly good guy in a universe of hate and pain. For nearly everyone else, there's a hope of escape - and for every other perpetual, there's the freedom from true consequence and so on. For Vulkan, he has nothing but an ever increasingly load of sadness, feelings of failure, and watching as everyone else around him dies.
As for the "Resurrection of Primarchs", I like to subscribe to the theory that the Primarchs' souls were made out of Minor Warp Gods. Might explain a lot of shenanigans in the lore. :/
my personal theory about vulcan, and the reason big e was so good to him (acting like a real father, saving his life and actually teaching him personally)/was proud of him, is because vulcan was the most “perfected” of all the primarchs, the one who was closest to being like big e. that’s also why he’s one of, if not the biggest primarch, and also why he’s the only primarch that’s a perpetual like dad emperor. just a fun theory i like. also it makes me hate the fact that he's a perpetual a lot less :)
I always felt it was because Vulkan was so human, Emps always loved humanity over all else, so Vulkan showing so much of his humanity actually made emps really proud. He is not like the emperor, but that what makes him so much better, he truly cares for humanity. For the emperor that the best thing to see, all emp's favorite sons normally have some touch with their humanity, while those he treats like shit are normally lacking in that field.
In terms of a primarch being the closest to Big E at least in terms of personality would be sanguinius as stated by Horus. Physically you’re probably right but he also lacks any kind of psychic power unlike many of his brothers.
In today's episode: DK learns about that one time one of the nicest characters in 40K burnt a child to death, really sets the standard for the rest of the setting.
I mean he was deliberately manipulated into doing it by Konrad and the Night Lords, basically so they could use it to cynically wax philosophical about how a person's animal fight or flight response to deliberate provocation is totally indicative of anything about what they're like when they're actually in control of themselves and of sound mind.
Interesting thing is Vulkan actually felt incredibly guilty and even regrets killing the Eldar Child, if he was in a scenario in modern 40k, he would most likely not make the same mistake. Hell he would probably defend them from bigger threats.
I don't know why, but "It is also a hammer" to me is one of the most badass quotes in 40k. No grandstanding, just one simple sentance that preludes the asswhopping of a lifetime
Ok to clarify in the Vulcan versus Conrad fight, Vulcan was either rocking nothing but his skin or a loincloth and Conrad was in full Primarch power armor including gauntlets. Conrad wasn't completely unarmed. It's was not a fair fight at all and Vulcan still won.
Because they forgot something. Conrad is NOT as big as Dorne, Conrad is one of the smallest of Primarchs. He is shorter and thinner than most of them. Even in full Primarch power armor assisting his muscles, he isn't half as strong as Vulcan is physically. Honestly Conrad is lucky Vulcan didn't crack or he'd have his armor ripped off of him along with his limbs. Vulcan is a BIG BOY.
I say the greatest quote that Vulkan has given, is the one that was in conversation with Ferrus Manus led to the motto of the Iron hands. “Flesh is weak, but deeds endure,” it it was apart of a salamander anthology and I think the story was either endure or Deeds Endure with remnants of istvan V salamander and Iron hand survivors doing hit and run tactics. More than likely wrong on the last part though.
I loved the contrast within the legions during the massacre. The iron hands KNEW their primarch was dead. The salamanders in contrast clung to his continued existence like nothing else.
I agree with Bricky about perpetuals being silly, but I like to think that’s just a legend spread by guardsmen who watched him shrug off a D-scythe to the face and he's just super durable.
Yeah but i love how it was done with Vulkan in his books. And he just treats it like an extension of his already weird by human standards biology. Until Curze points it out.
I’ve said it before to some scorn: 40k can be utterly brilliant if you approach most of lore as being told from an in-universe perspective. The more straight forward you make it the dumber it gets
Personally I really like Vulkan being a perpetual. He's one of the foremost defenders of humanity, a giant gleaming knight who no matter the odds, will rise again to defend the imperium's people. He's the only primarch that makes sense being a perpetual.
It makes sense that at least one primarch is a perpetual, given the Emperors origin as thousands of reincarnated shamans (assuming any of that is still even vaguely canon). Some primarchs got Emps psychic powers, others got his intelligence and wisdom, etc. Vulkan got his immortality.
Bricky: "I want to talk about something warm and nice, nice guy for Christmas, so we're talking about Vulkan." You know, there's a certain holiday in 40k that is an analogue for Christmas when they celebrate this certain winged, angelic Primarch who is also a nice guy who sacrificed himself for the God-Emperor...
32:50 and in addition they were given difficult suicidal missions to reinforce desperate lines and buy time for civilians to evacuate and stuff like that. Their attitude was such that they would never abandon the line until their mission of mercy was complete. So if you ever saw salamanders you knew the upcoming battle was going to be desperate and dangerous.
A segment from The Horus Heresy - Sons of the Forge by Nick Kyme Sons of Horus are regrouping and resupplying after a recent skirmish with a Salamander patrol Rayko Solomus had left the pit and was sitting on a ammo crate looking out of the battlements of the north wall. He saw the city ruins on the decaying horizon and found himself unmoved. As he only half-heard the menials toiling below and behind him Solomus wondered how long he has been this way.. dead inside. The rifted feeling, only when he held the torturer's knife, did a moat of true emotion return... and even that had been denied to him. The mechanicum emissary had the drake now. "He did not scream?" asked Nevok. Stopping to regard Solomus as he loaded a fresh shell into his weapons clip. "Hmm they certainly can take pain" Nevok stood sentry, waiting for the Salamanders to come. Sons of Horus stood at arms now, bolters at the ready, a squad of heavy weapons with their sights trained on the skies. Their subterfuge, no longer any use to them. They would fight the Salamanders in open battle. They were bloodied though, a row of dead lay in a makeshift apothecarian, waiting for rank to remove their prodgynoids. Even the survivors had burned and scorched armor. S: "They are born into it..." said Solomus. "..unto fire and death" N: Nevok nodded as he slipped in another bolt shell. "Have you seen their bodies? His scars had scars.." S: Solomus drew his knife, admiring the sharpness of the blade. "He killed Hajuk, Morvek and Ezremas.." he said, counting the legionaries one at the time on his gauntleted fingers. " ..at the same time. He fought them, three against one!" N: Nevok laughed as he slammed his clip back into his boltgun. "I seriously doubt that! The Drake was a fighter, anyone who is legion could see that, BUT ALL THREE?" He shook his head and scoffed. "Ezremas alone would have gutted him! These drakes are warm blooded, but they are not like us. They're weak!" VK: "He did it!" said a voice from behind them. Vosto Kurnan made his way onto the battlements via a metal stair that creaked under his armored weight. "I saw him" he added matter of factly, coming to stand beside the other legionaries. N: "Then why did you not intervene?!" said Nevok. VK: "They done themselves enough dishonor without my defeat of the drake making it worse." he said.. "..besides I hated Hajuk, Morvek and Ezremas.." N: "You hate everyone brother captain.." VK: "Hmph, true.." Kurnan said lightly and looked descant at Nevok. "But I reserve a special hatred for some. And they aren't weak..." he added. "You never served on Istvan V. You never saw them fight." N: Nevok looked at them both, nonplussed.. "What!? That was butchery, not service!" VK: Kurnan drew close. Nevok had his bolter by his side and fully loaded "We HAD them brother... The Ravens were abroad, guerilla fighting even then. The Gorgon and his warriors.. well they were hellbent on Fulgrim. But we had the drakes, surrounded, outnumbered, at the mercy of the high ground and our entrenched artillery. You should have seen the Iron Warriors pummel them.." he shook his head as if remembering the events he was describing in vivid detail. "Any other foe would have died and died fast, and they did..." he said. His voice grew low and menacing "But those drakes refused to yield. They fought even as the bombs rained and their brethren fell in droves. Even when the Gorgon died and when the Lord of Drakes fell soon after.. and when the raven fled they kept on... ..and on. Some had lost limbs, others were impaled or blind. Wounded beyond any reasonable capacity to function... ..even for legionaries..." Kurnan backed off, but his eyes still burned into Nevok's through his retinal lenses. "I heard it said that, ..when you kill one of Guilliman's sons, you make sure he is dead. Vulcan's sons... ..well they just don't die at all..."
@@claudiu-mihaipuiu1221 There something secret when it comes to their gene-seed. Again and again I hear about Salamanders surviving against impossible odds. We even have stratagem for our characters; "Rise from the ashes" On 4+ I can return a destroyed character back on 1 wound
@@boopsnootz6443 The cursed founding tried to mix and blend gene seeds to fix the problems in the primary gene seed. It is believed the Lamenters have that something special from the salamanders in their gene seed. No Lamenter has ever fallen to the black rage, and while lamenters die often...they always go down hard against extremely overwhelming numbers. They fight and die in places most marines refuse to even be deployed. Is it really any surprise that when Guillimen was able to reinforce the legions the ones who got the first Primaris reinforcements were the Lamenters? For the first time since their founding, they are at full strength. I can only imagine that the dreadnaught that though the was the last surviving Lamenter felt such joy, honor, and pride when he received the news that a ship came out of the warp carrying survivors from the penal crusade and that they were being reinforced back to full strength!
What I love most is that rules-wise in 30k there is a relationship chart for the legions to dictate what allies you can take. The Salamanders are close friends with every last one of the loyalist legions, even the Dark Angels who are iirc desperate allies with everyone. Speaking of the DA, the Lion Helm which is this super weird powerful relic the DA use to this day was said to be made as a gift to the Lion from Vulcan. Thought that was nice.
Also according to more recent lore Vulkan is physically the strongest Primarch, and this gets represented on tabletop by a warlord trait that gives a Salamander commander +1 strength.
I love how bricky didn't finish the quote in the beginning thinking that DK would "get it to easy" while DK also forgot about the Dark Eldar. Bricky needs to stop being disappointed, lol
16:44 keep in mind that Vulcan is a perpetual. He just heals any wound he gets, so the debilitating wounds that the eldar inflict won’t do anything to him.
I think perpetuals are alright as primarchs. I imagine every primarch has an inherent psychic ability, and perpetuals wouldn't have any psyker powers but immortality.
I can imagine after the battle a squat steps in front of him, snorts and spits on the ground and then says: "You fight pretty good for a walking mountain but your hammer swinging needs improvement." And Vulcan would laugh and agree with him.
Honestly, seeing that the primarchs are products of some sort of warp fuckery (see Corvus living his best life as a crow daemon) it doesn't seem that out of place for them to be perpetual. We know that deamons respawn after all.
Only vulkan is the perpetual. It’s more like each primarch has a shard of the Emperor within them, kind of like full metal alchemist, different antagonists we’re a cardinal sin. Vulkan got the Emperor’s immortality
@@phylippezimmermannpaquin2062 To be _entirely_ fair, Angron was a great dude until they put the Angry Pokies in his brain, and I doubt any of the primarchs (except probably Vulkan?) Would be fine after that.
No matter how any times I read it, or listen to the vulkan vs Konrad story, the buildup to the “it is also a hammer” line is always the most entertaining thing ever
The planet and moons of Baal are death worlds I believe. And it’s amusing that both Vulkan and Sanguinius who grew up on death worlds turned out to be the primarchs with the kindest hearts. Also, Sang took the deaths of his sons more personally than any of his brothers. Kabandha can testify to that.
List of primarch Death Worlds; Baal (Sanguinius); Arid radioactive desert full of feral mutants that makes Pandora from Borderlands look like a nice friendly neighborhood, with 2 moons that are even worse somehow. Caliban (the Lion); Forest planet with vegetation so thick and which grows so quickly it literally stops any permanent settlement from being built without constant attempts to cut it back. The forests hide horrific Chaos taint and mutant monsters attack on the regular. Fenris (Russ); Constant shifting archipelagos world where entire islands sink and erupt out of the ocean basically overnight. Has only 2 seasons that last years; sub-siberian winter and hotter-than-hell summer. The seas also have giant monsters in them. Nocturne (Vulkan); Volcano world! You want fire? WE HAVE ALL THE FIRE! Makes summer time on Fenris seems pleasant. Also has dragons, because of course it does! Surprisingly, Barbarus (Mortarion) and Chemos (Fulgrim) are not considered Deathworlds. Barbarus is considered Feral, despite being a toxic shit-pool where hardly anything grows and the air somehow gets more poisonous the higher the altitude and there's barely any daylight ever, and Chemos is considered a Mining world, albeit one that also doesn't get any sunlight and which also has jack shit of basically anything else, including water and everything has to be recycled constantly to sustain the population, who spend every waking moment doing so. Medusa (Ferrus) is also considered Feral, and is kinda a knock-off/wannabe Fenris/Nocturne, but nowhere near as bad as either of them, and if you want somewhere cold enough to give Fenris' winters a run for their money, then check out the Ice world of Inwit (Dorn), which is literally just a giant chunk of fucking frozen ass ice. There's literally nothing more to say on that, it's just cold as shit there. So yeah, surprisingly, only 4 Primarch homeworlds are considered Deathworlds, and not even half of them are considered much worse than that. And all of the deathworlders are loyalists.
I haven't read any book on Vulcan besides " Mercy of the dragon" , but this short story literally made me cry and make him my favorite primarch ever, I really can't recommend this book enough, especially after reading something truly grimdark/grimderp.
Ah my favorite primarch and true example of a shining light of goodness in a stupidly dark dumpster of 40K, something to make you actually care because it's not all grim. Vulkan is the true hero who will bring friendship to all humans and fiery death to all fetish dungeon space elves. Nocturne would be a lovely place to live if it wasn't always on fire, still great neighbors who genuinely care about each other. Gotta love how Vulkan was able to MATCH the emperor's physical might, if he wasn't so damn loving he could easily beat all of his siblings in a fist fight, he literally pulled his punches when he sparred with them.
Add on: I don't blame Vulkan he grew up on a world where pointy earred fuckers constantly tortured the people of his home world who where basically one of the most wholesome people in the galaxy. Space elves are basically super devils to him. Also an Eldar child is already trained for combat and can kill a bunch of humans and will do so because they don't view humans as people at best viewing them as just smart animals capable of using firearms. Also a witchling, so it's also a dangerous psycher.
The bowing scene is amazing and I adore and respect Vulcan. However I cannot excise the mental image of him bowing and still looking like a mini-van next to an average sized human.
How vulkan and ferrus met has got to be one of the most anime and epic moments in war hammer histroy. Villain took a a big f*ck off bomb to the face to save a girl and ferrus was just dumbfounded how he was that fast and tough. And how his face looked so scary and kind at the same time.
Vulkan and the task the emperor has for him with a little trinket he forges and has to bring to Terra. Also the fight he has with Magnus which is actually a sad fight as Vulkan just wanted his brother back. Spoilers for those who haven’t read the book I think this comes from: Vulkan is tasked with forging a medallion that he knows not what it does nor the reason for it, all he knows is that he must bring it to his father back in terra. Definitely look this up Bricky because it’s what Vulkan is doing during the siege of Terra and it also leads up to his fight with Magnus in the throne room in the holy palace
Things I would have liked to hear about were Vulkan wrestling parked baneblade class tank to save civilians and when fighting Conrad on macragge while insane wearing random armor pieces he was utilizing teleport hammer at full potential, teleporting mid swings to appear behind Conrad, to dodge and move, full Tracer style.
Big Bobby G and Vulkan are without doubt the best primarchs ever (exept for Sanguinius, of course. He is the goodest boy). Bobby G because of his ability to actually have common sense. And Vulkan because he is Vulkan!
Just realized appearance wise the salamanders are like black chiss and the green armor, forging, and caring for innocents is reminescint of the doom slayer. edit: also big e could've sacrificed the drake as vulkan was more usefull alive than any fatherly instincts if you want to view big e that way
I like to imagine Trazyn just yoinked the cell or cells of Vulkan that were creating him and now technically Vulkan is just being held in Trazyn's vault
I know this was a year ago, but I read on the Lexicanum website that the Primarchs were made with the DNA of both The Emperor AND a perpetual named Erda. Idk if it’s true or cited though. Edit: It was cited from the novel “Saturnine”
I also genuinely would believe Kurze knew Vulkan wouldn’t kill his own brother and would spare him like the Lion, not to mention the fact that he had no reason to really be defensive or self-preserving giving his visions. I also like the idea of despite obviously regenerating, it seems to take Vulk longer and longer each time
If there's one thing I want them to bring up in the next episode it's that Konrad didn't use the time vulcan burned an eldar child alive letting his rage get to him cause I'd imagine that would fuck with Vulcan remembering how he's stooped so low
Finally. White scars episodes were so cool that i almost started an army of them. I wanted to do 2 armies to be exact. One WS and one Orcs, both heavly relying on vechicles (mostly motorcycles in Marines case) and went full on Speedy boys vs speedy boyz. But i just wanted to hear about salamansers to fully make my decision and there it is. Also the fact that Vulcan exudes the biggest Santa vibes makes it great decision (ye ye sanguinala blah blah blah fuck you). PS: VULCAN LIVES! *STOMP* *STOMP*
gotta remember that not all of magnus soul went to chaos the best part of magnus is now the pseudo primarch Janus, think about it like that for all of the fallen primarchs, angry might have fallen but how much of his soul was saved
Hey there Bricky doubt that you'll see this, but I have a small request, when you cover the Salamanders characters, please cover Bray'arth Ashmantle he's a really important character and a super strong dreadnought, and really cool, thanks so much for all the content that you and the team give us, and I would lie to wish you a Merry Christmas and a very successful and blessed New Year.
I swear whenever DK raises his voice at Bricky its akin to a kid talking back to their dad. Im sitting here like o.o oh boi you grounded When he said "is it tau?" Bricky genuinely sounded as disappointed as my own dad sounds
Can I explain why I don't hate Vulkan's perpetuality? I think it's a metaphor, for the way that hope exists in 40k, Vulkan represents this sort of fluctuation between times of true hardship and times of peace, Vulkan gives his life, that is the death of hope, he comes again, hope is reborn, he represents the fluctuating light in the darkest of futures. That's why I love him so much.
This episode was a very thoughtful and in depth discussion of one of the nicest primarchs. Great job everyone and I hope Shy didn't have too much of a hard time editing this one down.
I absolutely love Salamanders and I'm looking forward to the eventual episode on the legion/chapter. I honestly really like their genetic flaw. One, they appear really frightening but are nice, a great "don't judge a book by its cover" thing and the second part often gets forgotten. Salamanders have the genetic flaw of being stubborn as fuck. The older a Salamander gets, the worse this gets as well. You first see this with Vulkan refusing to let his hunted drake go on Mount Deathfire. The Salamanders collectively insist on saving civilians and following the promethiam creed, which gives their inate thick skulls a purpose. Fucking love the Salamanders. With their flaw and companies and all they have more going on than you'd think at first.
With Vulkan being a Master Smith/Forgemaster, do the Mechanicus like to work with his custom creations, or does Vulkan do his own weapon maintenance? I know from Cawl, the Mechanicus don't really like to innovate/invent completely new tech; but do the Primarchs/Emperor get a pass due to the Mechanicus's view on the Emperor being a prophet of the Omnissiah?
Salamanders are noted that all Salamanders maintain their own equipment rather than relying on techmarines which leaves them to mostly focus on making shit. Which most of the time is making hammers or things that cause fires, or of course fire hammers. Salamander thing seems to be more metallurgy and smithing than technology. Besides, during Vulkan's times it was time of the Crusade and things were more optimistic, before Mars had it's own Civil War during Heresy so things were more relaxed then.
Something important to note which alot of people get wrong: the adeptus mechanicus is what the mechanicum of Mars became *after* the heresy. The original mechanicum was much more accepting of scientific thought and innovation than the mechanicus is
I believe that Vulkan, like all of his sons, does his own weapon maintenance. I mean, I don't think the Machanicus could repar his hammer, _Dawnbringer,_ just like that. It is pretty advanced tech.
One slight thing you might want to mention about vulkan is the fact that he died last while fighting the ork (or krork) called the beast and fell into a gargant’s (ork titan’s) power source which is a huge mass of wagh energy. Which is probably why he isn’t back yet.
He's just chilling in the ork gestalt consciousness with Gork and Mork, drinking fungus beer, having arm wrestling and bench pressing contests and debating whether they should german suplex or back break the chaos gods into non-existence once they kick down the Warp's front door.
Gotta agree on the Salamanders colour scheme being a bit meh, especially the green. The thing that fixes it imo is by using the black and gold properly. I don't do flames on green because of the contrast, dirty brownish gold next to green, warm rose gold next to black, a bunch of accents like knee pads etc. painted black, mosty importantly an all black backpack and of course green stuffing some scales and other stuff. Still keeping most of the armor green but helping out with other colours. Also paint helmet lenses yellow but exposed eyes red, works a bit better Just straight up using the green all over does look a bit weird. Still better than their original yellow/black colour scheme though
For some reason, here's what came to mind when Vulcan teleported to Macragge's atmosphere. Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, the whale and potted plant scene. Take your pick which one represents Vulcan better (both are equally humorous lol).
Another Part of the Vulcan story I love is from "Old Earth" where he was just re spawning in Mount DeathFire, stepping out of the Lava and then almost emidiatly turning back around and walking back into the Lava to extend his nap. "Hmmm.... Just 5 days more............"
Big E took over? Vulkans mind and made him create Terra's self destruct button in the final days of the horus heresy, in case if the loyalists lost completely to Horus with no way to win or regroup, as final middle finger to chaos, if Humanity is going down, we are taking as much of chaos as possible with them. Then he gave the said button to Tera's destruction to the most loving primarch, because he knows he can only trust Vulkan with such a decision. The final one. if it comes to that from the novel; Old Earth: To the Gates of Tera by Nick Kyme
23:00 Vulkan be stubborn. Option 1, transfer dragon corpse to legs, lift with 2 arms back to safety. Option 2, hang there, for HOURS, trying to set a new Personal Best for one-arm lifts. Vulkan: But dem gainz doe.
War of the beast will have it's own episode DON'T WORRY
Can't wait!
You forgot the part where Vulcan beats the shit out of Magnus
@@nelsondisalvatore9812 that not really a major thing, like wise you might have to actually read the books to get the full story.
War of The Beast is really weird
-Rogal Dorn speaking the BIGGEST understatement
You forgot the amazing Magnus and Vulkan moment when Magnus confronts Big E before he goes to fuck up Horus. Magnus wants to return to Big E but he learns the price is letting all of his son's be traitors and killed. And when he asks Vulkan if he could pay that price, Vulkan is like. "Not even for 1." And then Magnus and Vulkan fight resulting in Magnus about to be killed by Vulkan finally selling his soul to Tzeentch and being teleported away along with his son's that were with him.
Vulkan is the Optimus Prime of the 40k universe. Mostly because they're always brought back no matter what happens.
Friendship is the right of all sentient beings
@@francescolombardi3438 Sadly most might use it as a right to stab someone in the back
@@francescolombardi3438 it’s been a honor serving with you all. *SALAMANDERS ROLL OUT*
I hope they bring him back but if he'd be too late did the brand is damaged.
@@francescolombardi3438 Friendship is also magic...which is HERESY! INQUISITOR OVER HERE !
Frankly, I like the idea of Vulkan can't be killed because it embodies the humanity/hope/kindness can't be truly killed kind of thing
Exactly
I got my Salamanders codex, my minis and some popcorn. Let’s do this
Also: VULKAN LIVES STOMP STOMP.
I with you there
VULKAN LIVES
VULKAN LIVES! *STOMP* *STOMP*
VULKAN LIVES *STOMP STOMP*
VULKAN LIVES! *STOMP STOMP*
Big E when he met Vulkan: Saves his life and by extension sacrifices a bit of his pride
Big E when he met Angron: lol here watch your friends get slaughtered lmao
No. Big E should up and offered Angron his army so he could take the world. Angron told Big E to fuck off and the Emperor saved him from certain death on the mountain.
@@Ashtor1337 and completely fucked over Angron’s friends
@@Ashtor1337 That's pretty much it, literally all Big E. had to say was "Let me just clarify here Angron. I'm giving you this Legion, and if say your first act as commander of that Legion is to rescue your friends, have them become auxiliaries/potential initiates to said Legion, conquer Nuceria, bring it in into Imperial compliance, abolish slavery upon it and bring justice to the high riders for putting nails in my son's head, I'm fine with that."
The only reason I can find is somewhat deranged. That Big E. knew Angron felt pain or emptiness by everything but anger, so he intentionally gave Angron something that would stew and leave him forever angered so he could function, and know some degree of perverse "joy".
@@markgresch9944 You’re right but I don’t think Hectors comment was a alternative action but a statement of what actually happened. I’m fairly sure the “should” was a typo and meant to be “showed”
@@markgresch9944 The problem is that I'm pretty sure Nuceria was already under Imperium control, so I don't think Big E would want Angron tearing up a world he owns and screwing up it's economic stability just for revenge
Here's something to include
Vulkan: "There will be no Rad or Phosphex in my legion. We shall fight wars humanely. Some things should be left in the dark age."
Ferrus: "So, when are you going to stop burning people to death?"
Vulkan: "I don't understand the question."
There's an argument to be made that Rad and Phosphex make the planet uninhabitable, but most flame weapons don't. You know, unless you set an entire planet on fire, like Vulcan did to the planet now known as Caldera. You know, when he renamed it after he lit the entire thing and every innocent, non-Chaos aligned, human on it on fire.
@@jagnestormskull3178 wasn'tthere very innocent people left on that planet?? Still compared to other spave marines salamenders do their best to save as many innocents as they can. That deserves respect.
@@berilsevvalbekret772 "wasn'tthere very innocent people left on that planet??"
I assume you mean "weren't there very few," and I would say that almost everyone on Caldera was innocent. The worst "crime" (which was not a crime by their planet's laws, and their planet was not a subject of any empire existing during the Great Crusade, so cannot be subjected to the laws of any empire) the people of Caldera committed was invite Craftworld Eldar stay on their planet after that Craftworld saved them from the Dark Eldar. This is a very reasonable and polite thing to do; how rude would it be, if, an army had come to enslave, torture, rape, and murder you, then another army had defeated that army, asking nothing in return, but kick the second army out, rather than trying to learn more about them and why they helped a bunch of strangers? Why would these bunch of Feral Worlders even know the significance of the Imperium's policies towards the Eldar? They've had no contact with anyone outside of their planet since Old Night besides the Eldar.
I don't know exactly why the Eldar helped, this was a Feral World completely independent of the several human empires operating at the time, not exactly of strategic importance to anyone. Perhaps there were a high number of shamans on the planet and the Eldar thought that they could teach the shamans the proper ways to use the Warp without risking a Chaos incursion. Maybe this particular Craftworld just hated the Dark Eldar, and after the humans of what is now called Caldera extended the invitation, they stayed.
"Still compared to other spave marines salamenders do their best to save as many innocents as they can. That deserves respect."
Of course, I agree. IIRC, the Raven Guard (most sons of Vulcan and Corax) also do their best to minimize civilian casualties. And let us not forget the Lamenters.
@@jagnestormskull3178 by the laws of the PLANET, yes they were innocent, by the laws of the IMPERIUM, no they were not. Vulcan is not an instrument of the planets justice, he is an instrument of the imperiums justice. Collusion with the taliban is not illegal in many Arabic Muslim nations, however the US still arrest the colluders when they occupy those areas
@@jagnestormskull3178 yep sorry it was 4 am I was seeing double at that point 🤣
"It is also a hammer" God I love Vulkan
A hammer? Is it for war?
@@SamueL-td7fb Given he splattered a Dhrukari raiding party with just smithing hammers... ANY hammer in Vulkan's hands becomes a War Hammer.
@@Blazo_Djurovic a Carpenter hammer? Nah, its my Tomahammer
@@SamueL-td7fb Is it your 40,000th hammer by any chance?
"...but you forgot one thing."
"What is that, brother?"
"It is also a ligma."
"What?"
I really wish they had included this part:
After Vulkan attacks Konrad Curze in a psychotic rage, Curze, knowing that Vulkan can come back from the dead, takes a moment to monologue about how he will find a way to kill Vulkan permanently. Barely a few seconds later, Vulkan lives again, much faster than Curze is used to.
Curze: See? This is death. Learn to accept it, brother!
Vulkan: eyes snap open
Curze: Oh. That was quick...
‘And which would you have been, then?’
Vulkan smiled, though it did little to warm his diabolic voice.
‘A farmer, I think.’
‘You would take your blacksmiter’s anvil and turn a sword into a ploughshare, is that it?’
‘Overly poetic, but yes that’s it.’
one of the best excerpts from Vulkan Lives that establishes what Vulkan is like, conversation with the remembrancer Seriph
Wait, Vulkan has a diabolic voice? Damn... xD
@@Archon3960 wdym
Look, let's be real here: we all laugh at Shy's edit of Guilliman crying about how much better Vulkan is than him, but the truth is that Roboute would most likely _agree_ with that sentiment: even if he didn't consider him one of "The Dauntless Few", a logical and rational tactician and statesman like Roboute would _surely_ recognize and respect how powerful and selfless Vulkan was.
He's not crying for _himself_ in that edit; he's tearing up with _pride_ and _joy_ that his brother is getting the recognition he deserves!
This^^^
Being a fan of Guilliman as my favorite primarch and loving adeptus ridiculous is like psychological warfare.
As much as a want to dunk on guilliman he would give you a completely honest opinion on each of the primarchs capabilities
Honestly, in a universe full of selfish people and zealot. Vulcan is probably the one of the few hopes he holds onto for humanity.
@@Ontarianmm And when he sees the Lamentors (Sons of the gloriously fabulous hawkboi Sanguinius) always struggling through all they do for normal humans to survive.
the only reason I kinda like Vulkan being a perpetual is because of How much it pissed Curze off that he just couldn't kill him
Also the fact that the good guy is the immortal one and not someone like Cruze is a bit of hope and karmic justice in all that grimdark.
@@edim108to be fair the demon primarchs like Mortarion and Angron also respawn after a while
@@byjercam Yeah, but untill pretty recently it took them a hot minute to do so. Vulkan was lightning fast in comparisson.
I find the “This is a hammer” line from Vulkan so badass. Like Kurze thinks Vulkan is gonna retreat cause he has him hammer now and can teleport, and supposedly Kurze planned ahead. Though Vulkan seems to address that he was a little foolish in thinking Kurze didn’t plan ahead, it seems Kurze forgot one important thing, that aside from being a teleporter, Vulkan’s weapon is also a hammer. It’s like Kurze just thought about the teleporter aspect of the hammer, but entirely forgot it was essentially a hammer.
Is also the most funniest line
I fucking love it. While GW does a legitimately good job with long monologues delivering badass lines and interesting insults, the simplicity of that statement is just so efficiently cool
@@Darkhunter441995 the details on how kurze got bodied and the 40k meme if Loki and hulk meme except it's kurze and vulkan always cracks me Up. What a perfect meme
Also, Kurze has seen the future and accounted for the one he saw to such a deterministic extent that he didn't mind committing atrocities near the end because it proves the future he saw is real.
The fact that Vulkan hit him with the Hammer and it surprised Kurze means that he DIDN'T see it in the future he knows, and that also means that there's a chance he didn't HAVE to commit all the atrocities he did. That one moment completely upsets the understanding of the universe he forced himself to wholeheartedly believe, and if he wasn't insane he probably would have regretted everything he did.
He made a plan, but didn't have anyone look over the plan cause he has no friends, so how could he have known that which he didn't know?
Vulkan is one of the very rare characters in this setting that can really be called pure hero. Him being unable to die almost seems fitting if he represents the tiny flame of compassion that just won’t die no matter how much the galaxy tries to snuff it out.
Also Commander Farsight.
The quote from Vulkan to Curze is iconic. Getting shit talked by someone you have been torturing and being called a scared little boy in the dark followed by actually getting your ass beat and losing the prisoner....iconic.
"What are we doing for Christmas"
"A tale of a REALLY jolly man who loves a good fire and elves-"
"Oh?"
"-spines breaking as he can't stand them at all. Vulkan time."
No he was giving them hugs to die for.
Vulkan going "oh, you thought i wanted my fancy teleporter hammer to ESCAPE? oh sweetie" has honestly made him one of my favorite primarchs
Bricky: “I’m gonna paint my salamanders in black with flame decals.”
Me: “Bricky… that’s just legion of the damned, just minus the bones.”
And if you add bones you could possibly pass them off as the Black Dragons :P
@@ObsidiaBlack1 you would have to remove the flame decals and make their eyes green, but yeah, Black dragons are a good alternative for salamanders.
The Legion really needs their own episode cause they're pretty kickass too.
@Obsidia Black Civilian hiding from Druhkari, speaking to a Black Dragon: Are you here to kill me?
Black Dragon Sergeant: What!? NO! Of course not! Why would you think that?
Black Dragon Dreadnought: Because we are literal monstrosities and not the Ultra Marines?
Sergeant, gently rubbing his chin-horns: You do have a point.
@@SpiritoftheWolf28232 strokes his chin horn like a goatee.
you should mention vulkan and big e had the healthiest relationship. big e want his son to guide humanity and eventually let humanity took over. vulcan did just that. also when magus met vulkan in the throne room, he expected hatred from his brother, but vulkan looked at him with sympathy and sadness. a great character building moment.
Magnus did nothing wrong!!!
I mean I don’t know if I call that “healthy”. Daddy E wanted that from all his sons (well, the ones he didn’t completely neglect at least) and Vulkan just happened to be one of the few to actually do it.
@@heathenpride7931 no vulkand and emperor had an actual relationship I believe the emperor told vulkan that he was "his greatest creation" or "my success" (thats not verbatim, but it was something very kind from the emperor) and that was due to his nature, as well as his perpetual ability
A Shard of Magnus helped the Salamanders bring back Vulkan.
Magnus and Vulkan both were open-minded and kind people. They got along fairly well, but didn't interact much due to no common interest.
@@Ashtor1337he didn't had bad intentions BUT HE FUCKED UP G O O D NAH HE DID ALL WRONG LIKE DAMN
To be fair to the wolves, a fun fact:
The reason fenris is the Viking planet is that back in the dark age of technology, it was a theme park. Where rich people would go larp as Vikings. But when the human federation collapsed and the birth of slaneesh made travel impossible. They were trapped there, with only what they brought with them. Expecting the descendants of larpers who got to experience the plot of sword art online in person to be entirely normal might be expecting too much
I think the Khan and Angron's planet were like that too
I want one of the lost primarchs to be a space-pirate grown up on a pirate themed planet park, where a Jack Sparrow's AI kept talking to the population for thousands of years and educated him once he arrived on the Planet. And that's why he wasn't yet recovered, because he's a nasty son of a beach plundering the outskirts of the imperium's borders while trading with the pirate orks!
@@SamueL-td7fb Khans planet was more of a coincidence and had more to do with descendent of Mongolians colonizing that planet and with Angron a slave society is as fucked up as it is a common stage of civilization that can happen regardless of influence. Although the Roman themed crap is definitely from people having old statues and reading books on old Rome
Please tell me this is a joke
@@h0shidont35 sorry, its canon. its the explanation they gave for why a planet would be vikings even after the golden age had come and gone
Fulgrim's world of Chemos was a borderline death world. It was a world perpetually covered in dust storms and night, where the population had next to no resources to sustain itself and had to work 24 hours a day just to barely survive. They had to work so much that they didn't have any down-time, so no recreation or culture or leisure, just work. They were all crammed into tech-fortresses because being outside with no protection was a great way of getting flayed alive by the dust storms. Of course, cramming the whole population of a world into a handful of fortresses meant living conditions weren't exactly great. They couldn't produce any food of their own so were entirely dependent on trade for food, which wasn't a common occurrence since Chemos was parked right next to a bunch of raging warp storms and the Chemosians had barely any resources to trade with anyways, effectively condemning the inhabitants to slow starvation and martial law to ration whatever crumbs of food they had and to maintain the work load required just for the planet to not collapse on itself. "Not great" is the understatement of the century when it comes to Chemos.
Your description of chemos sounds like a mega city from judge dress....makes sense why fulgrim turned out the way he did lol
When do they reproduce in all that? It just sounds like a planet truly doomed to die
@@VortexTalon *cough* *cough*reconstituted rations *cough*
Judge Dress has sentenced Fulgrim's attire guilty of being too purple: To the boo box
also FENRIS
VULKAN LIVES!!!!!! **STOMP STOMP** I have around 6500 points of Salamanders at this time. So happy to see my favorite Primarch/Chapter being covered by favorite Warhammer lore podcast.
I agree wholeheartedly my dude. Have around 5700 Points of Salamanders and Black Dragons myself, and I love them with my entire heart :D
@@Yormolch hell yeah. brother!
I fully agree! I have been playing the 18th Legion since 3ed edition. I also have a sizable table top army. The apocalypse battles got a bit out of hand for a little while. 12000 points in Salamanders and another 8000 points in vehicles.
Also, deep breath:
VULKAN LIVES! STOMP STOMP
Vulcan lives *stomp stomp*
*STOMP STOMP*
57:07 he had been torturing him for years. Vulkan should have been malnourished to the point of barely being alive, in fact he had been killed many many times, and he should have been insane, and most other primarchs would have been in bad condition under curz torture for so long, but vulkans thing is resilience, and so he surprised curz by suddenly being at full strength, spirit, and wit. Also, Conrad had his full power armor on, and vulkan had nothing. Also Conrad knew the maze. So he really had all the advantages here, and still blew it xD
Perturabo built the maze
@@admechrodi758 was it that same maze? well either way curz was in control of the maze and familiar with it
to quote good boy himself..... "dat day, pain and I became the BEST OF FRIENDS!!"
My favorite part of 40k is when the large obscure man beats the shit out of his mentally ill gremlin brother
Well Vulken did have a hammer. I would say it's fairly even, a little skewed In Vulkens favor a bit.
In early m41, the Salamanders and Death Korps were assigned to defend a world from a Necron offense. After several months of hard fighting, the soulless xenos were defeated in an overwhelming Imperial victory. Not a single marine or guardsman survived.
Overwhelming victory
No one survives except vulkan
VULKAN LIVES
*STOMP STOMP*
Those who care the least about themselves paired with those who care the most about others.
I'd like to think that the Kriegsmen recieved forgivness from Emperor's angels before the end.
In today's episode Bricky comes the closest he's ever been to beating DK about the head in the first ten minuets. Should be a good show.
If the images in the background are anything to go off of, Shy would *also* like to beat DK about the head during those first ten minutes.
"Is it the Tau??!"
Where the fuck did that line of logic even come from?
@@Hawk_of_Battle fire caste? I dont fuckin know why he would think of those fucking blueberries!
You forgor about how Magnus was in Big E's throneroom during the heresy when Magnus confronted Big E to get his final shard back. And Magnus had that great moment where he learned the price of returning was sacrificing his son's. He looked to Vulkan, asked if he could pay that price in Magnus's shoes and he solemnly said. "Not even for 1"
And then smacked the dipshit nerd so hard he had to sell his soul to the devil in order to escape
@@SamueL-td7fb lmfao
I know! Especially with DK being a T-sons fan, he would have liked to hear about that.
I think this will def come up in magus' episode.
That's a pretty new story, like everything that happens regarding Vulkan and his Draaksward after they leave the webwayportal on terra. I would also like to hear more about it, but I don't mind Bricky not having read all about it yet.
Honestly, I like that Vulkan is a perpetual.
Any other primarch, and they would be exploiting it to the greatest extent they could - it would truly be the op immortal god.
For Vulkan, his immortality is a curse. He is the one truly good guy in a universe of hate and pain. For nearly everyone else, there's a hope of escape - and for every other perpetual, there's the freedom from true consequence and so on.
For Vulkan, he has nothing but an ever increasingly load of sadness, feelings of failure, and watching as everyone else around him dies.
As for the "Resurrection of Primarchs", I like to subscribe to the theory that the Primarchs' souls were made out of Minor Warp Gods. Might explain a lot of shenanigans in the lore. :/
What a way to start off the week of Christmas. With the nicest dude in all of 40k, who set a child on fire!! (even if it is a xenos one).
He really warmed their heart and made their face light up though
Just some fruity elf
Well its a xenos one
Xenos don't count as people
Well he did regret it..... Slightly
" I wish to pet this creature" Blows up in a nuclear explosion
"Vulkan do not pet that merry suicide bomber"
" It would be but a simple boop on its snoot. "
"stop wanting"
[prolonged bird noise]
but boop
my personal theory about vulcan, and the reason big e was so good to him (acting like a real father, saving his life and actually teaching him personally)/was proud of him, is because vulcan was the most “perfected” of all the primarchs, the one who was closest to being like big e. that’s also why he’s one of, if not the biggest primarch, and also why he’s the only primarch that’s a perpetual like dad emperor. just a fun theory i like. also it makes me hate the fact that he's a perpetual a lot less :)
I always felt it was because Vulkan was so human, Emps always loved humanity over all else, so Vulkan showing so much of his humanity actually made emps really proud. He is not like the emperor, but that what makes him so much better, he truly cares for humanity. For the emperor that the best thing to see, all emp's favorite sons normally have some touch with their humanity, while those he treats like shit are normally lacking in that field.
In terms of a primarch being the closest to Big E at least in terms of personality would be sanguinius as stated by Horus. Physically you’re probably right but he also lacks any kind of psychic power unlike many of his brothers.
Wouldn't Papa Smurf fit that description more?
In today's episode: DK learns about that one time one of the nicest characters in 40K burnt a child to death, really sets the standard for the rest of the setting.
An eldar kid*
Nothing of value was lost ^^
Well he gave him a pretty quick death compared to 40k standards, especially for a xenos scum.
@@justiron2999 *her.
But yeah Prometheum flamers are surprisingly quick in delivering death.
It was a xenos. It doesn't count as a person.
I mean he was deliberately manipulated into doing it by Konrad and the Night Lords, basically so they could use it to cynically wax philosophical about how a person's animal fight or flight response to deliberate provocation is totally indicative of anything about what they're like when they're actually in control of themselves and of sound mind.
Interesting thing is Vulkan actually felt incredibly guilty and even regrets killing the Eldar Child, if he was in a scenario in modern 40k, he would most likely not make the same mistake. Hell he would probably defend them from bigger threats.
I don't know why, but "It is also a hammer" to me is one of the most badass quotes in 40k. No grandstanding, just one simple sentance that preludes the asswhopping of a lifetime
It's an amazing qoute, because it's Vulkan reminding his brother, who had assumed that he wanted it purely to teleport away, that it's still a weapon.
@@r.cdahuman7682 plus the teleportation is really durable. Like after bashing various skulls or metal of your enemies it still works.
Ok to clarify in the Vulcan versus Conrad fight, Vulcan was either rocking nothing but his skin or a loincloth and Conrad was in full Primarch power armor including gauntlets. Conrad wasn't completely unarmed. It's was not a fair fight at all and Vulcan still won.
Because they forgot something. Conrad is NOT as big as Dorne, Conrad is one of the smallest of Primarchs. He is shorter and thinner than most of them. Even in full Primarch power armor assisting his muscles, he isn't half as strong as Vulcan is physically. Honestly Conrad is lucky Vulcan didn't crack or he'd have his armor ripped off of him along with his limbs.
Vulcan is a BIG BOY.
I say the greatest quote that Vulkan has given, is the one that was in conversation with Ferrus Manus led to the motto of the Iron hands. “Flesh is weak, but deeds endure,” it it was apart of a salamander anthology and I think the story was either endure or Deeds Endure with remnants of istvan V salamander and Iron hand survivors doing hit and run tactics. More than likely wrong on the last part though.
I loved the contrast within the legions during the massacre. The iron hands KNEW their primarch was dead. The salamanders in contrast clung to his continued existence like nothing else.
I agree with Bricky about perpetuals being silly, but I like to think that’s just a legend spread by guardsmen who watched him shrug off a D-scythe to the face and he's just super durable.
Yeah but i love how it was done with Vulkan in his books. And he just treats it like an extension of his already weird by human standards biology. Until Curze points it out.
I’ve said it before to some scorn:
40k can be utterly brilliant if you approach most of lore as being told from an in-universe perspective. The more straight forward you make it the dumber it gets
Personally I really like Vulkan being a perpetual. He's one of the foremost defenders of humanity, a giant gleaming knight who no matter the odds, will rise again to defend the imperium's people.
He's the only primarch that makes sense being a perpetual.
And if two perpetuals provided the genes, at least one was bound to be one. And realistically, who else would you give the genes to?
It makes sense that at least one primarch is a perpetual, given the Emperors origin as thousands of reincarnated shamans (assuming any of that is still even vaguely canon). Some primarchs got Emps psychic powers, others got his intelligence and wisdom, etc. Vulkan got his immortality.
Bricky: "I want to talk about something warm and nice, nice guy for Christmas, so we're talking about Vulkan."
You know, there's a certain holiday in 40k that is an analogue for Christmas when they celebrate this certain winged, angelic Primarch who is also a nice guy who sacrificed himself for the God-Emperor...
Reset the clock!
@@Codeman1930 SILENCE HERETIC
Ti be fair Vulcan does kinda look like a Christmas tree.
RESET THE CLOCK
@@Codeman1930 please explain what do you mean by that
32:50 and in addition they were given difficult suicidal missions to reinforce desperate lines and buy time for civilians to evacuate and stuff like that. Their attitude was such that they would never abandon the line until their mission of mercy was complete. So if you ever saw salamanders you knew the upcoming battle was going to be desperate and dangerous.
A segment from The Horus Heresy - Sons of the Forge by Nick Kyme
Sons of Horus are regrouping and resupplying after a recent skirmish with a Salamander patrol
Rayko Solomus had left the pit and was sitting on a ammo crate looking out of the battlements of the north wall. He saw the city ruins on the decaying horizon and found himself unmoved. As he only half-heard the menials toiling below and behind him Solomus wondered how long he has been this way.. dead inside. The rifted feeling, only when he held the torturer's knife, did a moat of true emotion return... and even that had been denied to him. The mechanicum emissary had the drake now.
"He did not scream?" asked Nevok. Stopping to regard Solomus as he loaded a fresh shell into his weapons clip.
"Hmm they certainly can take pain"
Nevok stood sentry, waiting for the Salamanders to come. Sons of Horus stood at arms now, bolters at the ready, a squad of heavy weapons with their sights trained on the skies. Their subterfuge, no longer any use to them. They would fight the Salamanders in open battle. They were bloodied though, a row of dead lay in a makeshift apothecarian, waiting for rank to remove their prodgynoids. Even the survivors had burned and scorched armor.
S: "They are born into it..." said Solomus. "..unto fire and death"
N: Nevok nodded as he slipped in another bolt shell. "Have you seen their bodies? His scars had scars.."
S: Solomus drew his knife, admiring the sharpness of the blade. "He killed Hajuk, Morvek and Ezremas.." he said, counting the legionaries one at the time on his gauntleted fingers. " ..at the same time. He fought them, three against one!"
N: Nevok laughed as he slammed his clip back into his boltgun. "I seriously doubt that! The Drake was a fighter, anyone who is legion could see that, BUT ALL THREE?"
He shook his head and scoffed. "Ezremas alone would have gutted him! These drakes are warm blooded, but they are not like us. They're weak!"
VK: "He did it!" said a voice from behind them. Vosto Kurnan made his way onto the battlements via a metal stair that creaked under his armored weight. "I saw him" he added matter of factly, coming to stand beside the other legionaries.
N: "Then why did you not intervene?!" said Nevok.
VK: "They done themselves enough dishonor without my defeat of the drake making it worse." he said.. "..besides I hated Hajuk, Morvek and Ezremas.."
N: "You hate everyone brother captain.."
VK: "Hmph, true.." Kurnan said lightly and looked descant at Nevok. "But I reserve a special hatred for some. And they aren't weak..." he added. "You never served on Istvan V. You never saw them fight."
N: Nevok looked at them both, nonplussed.. "What!? That was butchery, not service!"
VK: Kurnan drew close. Nevok had his bolter by his side and fully loaded "We HAD them brother... The Ravens were abroad, guerilla fighting even then. The Gorgon and his warriors.. well they were hellbent on Fulgrim. But we had the drakes, surrounded, outnumbered, at the mercy of the high ground and our entrenched artillery. You should have seen the Iron Warriors pummel them.." he shook his head as if remembering the events he was describing in vivid detail. "Any other foe would have died and died fast, and they did..." he said. His voice grew low and menacing "But those drakes refused to yield. They fought even as the bombs rained and their brethren fell in droves. Even when the Gorgon died and when the Lord of Drakes fell soon after.. and when the raven fled they kept on... ..and on. Some had lost limbs, others were impaled or blind. Wounded beyond any reasonable capacity to function... ..even for legionaries..." Kurnan backed off, but his eyes still burned into Nevok's through his retinal lenses. "I heard it said that, ..when you kill one of Guilliman's sons, you make sure he is dead. Vulcan's sons... ..well they just don't die at all..."
This just makes me love the Salamanders even more. Truly the best boys of the Imperium.
@@claudiu-mihaipuiu1221 There something secret when it comes to their gene-seed. Again and again I hear about Salamanders surviving against impossible odds. We even have stratagem for our characters; "Rise from the ashes" On 4+ I can return a destroyed character back on 1 wound
@@boopsnootz6443 The cursed founding tried to mix and blend gene seeds to fix the problems in the primary gene seed. It is believed the Lamenters have that something special from the salamanders in their gene seed. No Lamenter has ever fallen to the black rage, and while lamenters die often...they always go down hard against extremely overwhelming numbers. They fight and die in places most marines refuse to even be deployed.
Is it really any surprise that when Guillimen was able to reinforce the legions the ones who got the first Primaris reinforcements were the Lamenters? For the first time since their founding, they are at full strength. I can only imagine that the dreadnaught that though the was the last surviving Lamenter felt such joy, honor, and pride when he received the news that a ship came out of the warp carrying survivors from the penal crusade and that they were being reinforced back to full strength!
Konrad: There is no escape.
Vulkan: I ain't stuck in here with you, YOU'RE STUCK IN HERE WITH ME!
In the next episode quote,
Bricky: "I am the Emperor of Mankind"
DK: "Is it.......I don't know, Farsight Tau?"
He was so close...
Loyal. Promethium. Fire.
He was so close...
Bricky "BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD, SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE"
DK: sooo......this is an imperial faction?
What I love most is that rules-wise in 30k there is a relationship chart for the legions to dictate what allies you can take. The Salamanders are close friends with every last one of the loyalist legions, even the Dark Angels who are iirc desperate allies with everyone.
Speaking of the DA, the Lion Helm which is this super weird powerful relic the DA use to this day was said to be made as a gift to the Lion from Vulcan. Thought that was nice.
You know, the line 'it is also a hammer' is probably the most badass line in 40k.
I guess you could say ... it's a war hammer.
I'll leave.
@@MPHJackson7 It actually is, that’s the best part.
Vulkan is the Warhammer 40k
Also according to more recent lore Vulkan is physically the strongest Primarch, and this gets represented on tabletop by a warlord trait that gives a Salamander commander +1 strength.
Vulkan's hammer Is so big and heavy only Vulkan himself and the Emperor were able to wield It.
It's actually +2 strength it's crazy
@@Jakeskater9528 Ah my Apologies...and yeah that's really cool. XD
Salamander characters can become the toughest and strongest out of all of the marines.
It took ten (yes, *ten* ) space marines in The Beast Arises to use Vulkan's _Dawnbringer_ as a freakin' battering ram. Shows how strong the guy is. :/
Everyone: excited to hear about the primarch of the salamanders
Me: excited to hear about eldar children 🔥🔥🔥
isnt that why we are all here?
No you monster
*BURN IN HOLY FIRE!*
*Hell yeah that shit fire* … literally
@@superkgaming8305 don't feel bad for the pointy-eared crotch spawn! He's now residing in mommy Slaneesh's pleasure palace for the rest of eternity ♥️
I love how bricky didn't finish the quote in the beginning thinking that DK would "get it to easy" while DK also forgot about the Dark Eldar. Bricky needs to stop being disappointed, lol
It's frustrating. He's become Mrs. Puff yelling "What I learned in Boating school is- blankety! Blankety! BLANK!"
16:44 keep in mind that Vulcan is a perpetual. He just heals any wound he gets, so the debilitating wounds that the eldar inflict won’t do anything to him.
Isnt that what he implied
Perpetual means you come back to life after death. He isn’t invulnerable. He dies hundreds maybe thousands of times
I think perpetuals are alright as primarchs. I imagine every primarch has an inherent psychic ability, and perpetuals wouldn't have any psyker powers but immortality.
From what I can see, all Primarchs are basically tanks, and Vulkan is a freaking Baneblade
@@sparking023 The psychic ability of Alfarius & Oregon of cloaking their presence and real form from others the Emperor can do It too.
@@davidfrancisco3502 Why did my body feel pain when I read Alpharius & Omegon misspelled?
@@julianhayes9043I don't know, Alpharius. Move along.
My personal head cannon is that Vulcan went headfirst into the Squat home worlds to help them fight off the Tyranid invasion.
I can imagine after the battle a squat steps in front of him, snorts and spits on the ground and then says: "You fight pretty good for a walking mountain but your hammer swinging needs improvement."
And Vulcan would laugh and agree with him.
Somebody, write fanon about this
@@cavareenvius7886 HAHAHA YES SMALL BEARDED MAN, THESE ARMS ARE MORE USED TO HUGS AND THE ANVIL THAN THE WAYS OF WAR.
Honestly, seeing that the primarchs are products of some sort of warp fuckery (see Corvus living his best life as a crow daemon) it doesn't seem that out of place for them to be perpetual. We know that deamons respawn after all.
Oh shit so hes like saint celestine
Only vulkan is the perpetual. It’s more like each primarch has a shard of the Emperor within them, kind of like full metal alchemist, different antagonists we’re a cardinal sin. Vulkan got the Emperor’s immortality
@@michaelharris8111 to think the emperor's empathy went into angron
@@phylippezimmermannpaquin2062 To be _entirely_ fair, Angron was a great dude until they put the Angry Pokies in his brain, and I doubt any of the primarchs (except probably Vulkan?) Would be fine after that.
@@michaelharris8111sounds good to me. Also fma is goated
DK: "Man, Konrad got absolutely bodied in the most embarrassing way."
Lion El Johnson: "Most embarrassing way THUS FAR."
says the guy who lost half his legion to chaos, while still pretending to be loyalist and got bodied by one of his own human servants...
@@BananenbaumEYstill alive tho
@@noblereflex8332 death is nothing, compared to vindication.
@@BananenbaumEY Unpleasant it was!
*I LIVE*
I wish you all merry Christmas, may the Emperors grace smile upon you all
Thank you mighty Vulkan merry Christmas to you too
VULKAN LIVES MERRY CHRISTMAS! STOMP STOMP!
Do we still live, my primarch?
No matter how any times I read it, or listen to the vulkan vs Konrad story, the buildup to the “it is also a hammer” line is always the most entertaining thing ever
The planet and moons of Baal are death worlds I believe. And it’s amusing that both Vulkan and Sanguinius who grew up on death worlds turned out to be the primarchs with the kindest hearts.
Also, Sang took the deaths of his sons more personally than any of his brothers. Kabandha can testify to that.
Corax took the drop site massacre pretty hard as well.
So did the lion and wolf. They are still ass holes. The world has nothing to do with the man they would become.
@@christianholbrook2686 yeah but Corax never had the psychic link that the blood angels had with Sanguinius.
When the ground beneath your feet strives to kill you, you need others to hold your ground. Humanities strength has always been community
@@PIJIM0N Still, I don’t think Corax took what happened with the Raptor project marines very well either.
List of primarch Death Worlds;
Baal (Sanguinius); Arid radioactive desert full of feral mutants that makes Pandora from Borderlands look like a nice friendly neighborhood, with 2 moons that are even worse somehow.
Caliban (the Lion); Forest planet with vegetation so thick and which grows so quickly it literally stops any permanent settlement from being built without constant attempts to cut it back. The forests hide horrific Chaos taint and mutant monsters attack on the regular.
Fenris (Russ); Constant shifting archipelagos world where entire islands sink and erupt out of the ocean basically overnight. Has only 2 seasons that last years; sub-siberian winter and hotter-than-hell summer. The seas also have giant monsters in them.
Nocturne (Vulkan); Volcano world! You want fire? WE HAVE ALL THE FIRE! Makes summer time on Fenris seems pleasant. Also has dragons, because of course it does!
Surprisingly, Barbarus (Mortarion) and Chemos (Fulgrim) are not considered Deathworlds. Barbarus is considered Feral, despite being a toxic shit-pool where hardly anything grows and the air somehow gets more poisonous the higher the altitude and there's barely any daylight ever, and Chemos is considered a Mining world, albeit one that also doesn't get any sunlight and which also has jack shit of basically anything else, including water and everything has to be recycled constantly to sustain the population, who spend every waking moment doing so.
Medusa (Ferrus) is also considered Feral, and is kinda a knock-off/wannabe Fenris/Nocturne, but nowhere near as bad as either of them, and if you want somewhere cold enough to give Fenris' winters a run for their money, then check out the Ice world of Inwit (Dorn), which is literally just a giant chunk of fucking frozen ass ice. There's literally nothing more to say on that, it's just cold as shit there.
So yeah, surprisingly, only 4 Primarch homeworlds are considered Deathworlds, and not even half of them are considered much worse than that. And all of the deathworlders are loyalists.
I’m nearly certain that in terms of just straight strength like if we had a Primarch deadlift contest Vulkan would be the strongest.
In a fight, there are like 4 or 5 Primarchs that can beat Vulkan. In an arm wrestling contest, he wins hands down
@@fenris5932 bro, he said straight strength...
@@Ashtor1337 I know, I was giving another way of thinking about it
Easily, he could lift a goddamn battle cruiser if he put his back into it
@@joaogomes9405 I mean Angron could support the leg of a Titan that was about to step on Lorgar so...
“Painting my Salamanders in black armor with fire decals” ah yes, my favorite mysterious warp born Spacemarines, the SALAMANDERS.
I haven't read any book on Vulcan besides " Mercy of the dragon" , but this short story literally made me cry and make him my favorite primarch ever, I really can't recommend this book enough, especially after reading something truly grimdark/grimderp.
Ah my favorite primarch and true example of a shining light of goodness in a stupidly dark dumpster of 40K, something to make you actually care because it's not all grim.
Vulkan is the true hero who will bring friendship to all humans and fiery death to all fetish dungeon space elves.
Nocturne would be a lovely place to live if it wasn't always on fire, still great neighbors who genuinely care about each other.
Gotta love how Vulkan was able to MATCH the emperor's physical might, if he wasn't so damn loving he could easily beat all of his siblings in a fist fight, he literally pulled his punches when he sparred with them.
Add on: I don't blame Vulkan he grew up on a world where pointy earred fuckers constantly tortured the people of his home world who where basically one of the most wholesome people in the galaxy. Space elves are basically super devils to him.
Also an Eldar child is already trained for combat and can kill a bunch of humans and will do so because they don't view humans as people at best viewing them as just smart animals capable of using firearms. Also a witchling, so it's also a dangerous psycher.
The bowing scene is amazing and I adore and respect Vulcan. However I cannot excise the mental image of him bowing and still looking like a mini-van next to an average sized human.
“Flesh is weak, but deeds endure.”
-Vulkan to Ferrus Manus during a battle with the Ork menace.
Quiet Ghost Ferrus Manus!
How vulkan and ferrus met has got to be one of the most anime and epic moments in war hammer histroy.
Villain took a a big f*ck off bomb to the face to save a girl and ferrus was just dumbfounded how he was that fast and tough.
And how his face looked so scary and kind at the same time.
Damn autocorrect
@@bradleybrazao6762 you know... you can edit your comments...
@@Yormolch I know I choose to leave my mistakes in cause I look back at my comments and find them funny.
"I guess your an exception to the rule..."
-Ferrus Manus.
Vulkan and the task the emperor has for him with a little trinket he forges and has to bring to Terra.
Also the fight he has with Magnus which is actually a sad fight as Vulkan just wanted his brother back.
Spoilers for those who haven’t read the book I think this comes from:
Vulkan is tasked with forging a medallion that he knows not what it does nor the reason for it, all he knows is that he must bring it to his father back in terra. Definitely look this up Bricky because it’s what Vulkan is doing during the siege of Terra and it also leads up to his fight with Magnus in the throne room in the holy palace
Things I would have liked to hear about were Vulkan wrestling parked baneblade class tank to save civilians and when fighting Conrad on macragge while insane wearing random armor pieces he was utilizing teleport hammer at full potential, teleporting mid swings to appear behind Conrad, to dodge and move, full Tracer style.
So the true Warhammer 40k was inside us all along... Thank you vulkan
Big Bobby G and Vulkan are without doubt the best primarchs ever (exept for Sanguinius, of course. He is the goodest boy). Bobby G because of his ability to actually have common sense. And Vulkan because he is Vulkan!
Just realized appearance wise the salamanders are like black chiss and the green armor, forging, and caring for innocents is reminescint of the doom slayer. edit: also big e could've sacrificed the drake as vulkan was more usefull alive than any fatherly instincts if you want to view big e that way
Black *BUFF* Chiss
Yeah, Father of the Millenium Award right there. x)
I have to say i am impressed by how creative conrad is in his torture.
Then he gets angry, and it devolves into *_"Why won't you just DIE!?"_* xD
I like to imagine Trazyn just yoinked the cell or cells of Vulkan that were creating him and now technically Vulkan is just being held in Trazyn's vault
I can actually see that happening
I'm 90% sure Dorn and the Khan are with him too
@@SamueL-td7fb along with Dorn's magic pain glove
@@SamueL-td7fb Now it makes sense why he wasn't excited about clonegrim. Man is waiting for a full set.
I like how he always comes back, it makes him seem like a kind saviour who always returned when needed
All of the primarchs have a shard of the Emperor in them. Vulkan got his immortality. Saw people confused on why vulkan was a perpetual.
Was it confirmed, or is it still just a theory? :/
I know this was a year ago, but I read on the Lexicanum website that the Primarchs were made with the DNA of both The Emperor AND a perpetual named Erda. Idk if it’s true or cited though.
Edit: It was cited from the novel “Saturnine”
The only way dk knew how to talk about Vulcan and the salamanders was “what good boys” and “chads”. Quality reactions.
TTS Vulkan: "Finally I am free from Conrads Kurze's torture, Adventure!"
*Falls from Macragges upper atmosphere*
As eloquent and poetic as all the other quotes we've heard are, I think my absolute favorite will always be "it's also a hammer"
I also genuinely would believe Kurze knew Vulkan wouldn’t kill his own brother and would spare him like the Lion, not to mention the fact that he had no reason to really be defensive or self-preserving giving his visions.
I also like the idea of despite obviously regenerating, it seems to take Vulk longer and longer each time
If there's one thing I want them to bring up in the next episode it's that Konrad didn't use the time vulcan burned an eldar child alive letting his rage get to him cause I'd imagine that would fuck with Vulcan remembering how he's stooped so low
It was an elder. They don't count as People
@@Ashtor1337 yeah but didn't vulkan still hate himself for even doing it
@@capsizemoonz2251 yes.
"I wish to pet this creature."
-Primarch Vulcan
I remember asking when will they do salamanders on stream, i didnt think they'll do it so soon, this is an early christmas gift to me
"They aren't hideous; It's not like they have four eyes etc..."
I love it that the first thing Bricky thought of as hideous was a Batarian.
Finally. White scars episodes were so cool that i almost started an army of them. I wanted to do 2 armies to be exact. One WS and one Orcs, both heavly relying on vechicles (mostly motorcycles in Marines case) and went full on Speedy boys vs speedy boyz. But i just wanted to hear about salamansers to fully make my decision and there it is.
Also the fact that Vulcan exudes the biggest Santa vibes makes it great decision (ye ye sanguinala blah blah blah fuck you).
PS:
VULCAN LIVES! *STOMP* *STOMP*
Tbh, Vulkan probably spared that Eldar kid a worse fate by Night Lord. I’d rather be incinerated than get skinned.
Definitely a quicker death
gotta remember that not all of magnus soul went to chaos the best part of magnus is now the pseudo primarch Janus, think about it like that for all of the fallen primarchs, angry might have fallen but how much of his soul was saved
That is a really good question and a worthy discussion.
I find the if the emperor had a ttsd series funny as hell just with how vulkan was characterized as, also (VULKAN LIVES STOMP STOMP)
Hey there Bricky doubt that you'll see this, but I have a small request, when you cover the Salamanders characters, please cover Bray'arth Ashmantle he's a really important character and a super strong dreadnought, and really cool, thanks so much for all the content that you and the team give us, and I would lie to wish you a Merry Christmas and a very successful and blessed New Year.
He should cover both known occupants, namely the first and the last one. He did briefly in this video, but it didn't do him justice.
I swear whenever DK raises his voice at Bricky its akin to a kid talking back to their dad.
Im sitting here like o.o oh boi you grounded
When he said "is it tau?" Bricky genuinely sounded as disappointed as my own dad sounds
Can I explain why I don't hate Vulkan's perpetuality? I think it's a metaphor, for the way that hope exists in 40k, Vulkan represents this sort of fluctuation between times of true hardship and times of peace, Vulkan gives his life, that is the death of hope, he comes again, hope is reborn, he represents the fluctuating light in the darkest of futures. That's why I love him so much.
This episode was a very thoughtful and in depth discussion of one of the nicest primarchs. Great job everyone and I hope Shy didn't have too much of a hard time editing this one down.
Yes! As a salamanders player I been waiting for this episode since the first episode of adeptus ridiculous. I'm so excited!
I am very surprised bricky dodged the fact that Vulkan beats the ever living shit out of Magnus infront of a magnus fan like DK
Did the novel come out when they did the episode? :/
@@Archon3960 yes.....
I absolutely love Salamanders and I'm looking forward to the eventual episode on the legion/chapter.
I honestly really like their genetic flaw. One, they appear really frightening but are nice, a great "don't judge a book by its cover" thing and the second part often gets forgotten.
Salamanders have the genetic flaw of being stubborn as fuck. The older a Salamander gets, the worse this gets as well. You first see this with Vulkan refusing to let his hunted drake go on Mount Deathfire. The Salamanders collectively insist on saving civilians and following the promethiam creed, which gives their inate thick skulls a purpose.
Fucking love the Salamanders. With their flaw and companies and all they have more going on than you'd think at first.
With Vulkan being a Master Smith/Forgemaster, do the Mechanicus like to work with his custom creations, or does Vulkan do his own weapon maintenance? I know from Cawl, the Mechanicus don't really like to innovate/invent completely new tech; but do the Primarchs/Emperor get a pass due to the Mechanicus's view on the Emperor being a prophet of the Omnissiah?
Salamanders are noted that all Salamanders maintain their own equipment rather than relying on techmarines which leaves them to mostly focus on making shit. Which most of the time is making hammers or things that cause fires, or of course fire hammers. Salamander thing seems to be more metallurgy and smithing than technology. Besides, during Vulkan's times it was time of the Crusade and things were more optimistic, before Mars had it's own Civil War during Heresy so things were more relaxed then.
Vulkan was mind wiped by Big E after he created the the doomsday device for when the golden throne fails because of the broken webway. So he invents.
Something important to note which alot of people get wrong: the adeptus mechanicus is what the mechanicum of Mars became *after* the heresy. The original mechanicum was much more accepting of scientific thought and innovation than the mechanicus is
@@r.cdahuman7682 man, they share a lot more in common with the imperium than I expected
I believe that Vulkan, like all of his sons, does his own weapon maintenance. I mean, I don't think the Machanicus could repar his hammer, _Dawnbringer,_ just like that. It is pretty advanced tech.
I'm happy to say I represent the Salamanders in our current Deathwatch rpg.
Vulkan Lives.
"what the hell was Konrad thinking?!" *HE WASN'T.* Also Bricky's "you WHAT?!" is incredibly on point.
One slight thing you might want to mention about vulkan is the fact that he died last while fighting the ork (or krork) called the beast and fell into a gargant’s (ork titan’s) power source which is a huge mass of wagh energy. Which is probably why he isn’t back yet.
He's just chilling in the ork gestalt consciousness with Gork and Mork, drinking fungus beer, having arm wrestling and bench pressing contests and debating whether they should german suplex or back break the chaos gods into non-existence once they kick down the Warp's front door.
That was before Horus heresy...
@@Ashtor1337 no that happened durring the war of the beast. That was after the heresy
Gotta agree on the Salamanders colour scheme being a bit meh, especially the green.
The thing that fixes it imo is by using the black and gold properly. I don't do flames on green because of the contrast, dirty brownish gold next to green, warm rose gold next to black, a bunch of accents like knee pads etc. painted black, mosty importantly an all black backpack and of course green stuffing some scales and other stuff. Still keeping most of the armor green but helping out with other colours.
Also paint helmet lenses yellow but exposed eyes red, works a bit better
Just straight up using the green all over does look a bit weird.
Still better than their original yellow/black colour scheme though
The moment when you showed guillman with tear... i felt it so hard :(
"But you have forgotten one thing, it is also a hammer" new favorite vulkan line
For some reason, here's what came to mind when Vulcan teleported to Macragge's atmosphere.
Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, the whale and potted plant scene.
Take your pick which one represents Vulcan better (both are equally humorous lol).
Oh no,not again
Another Part of the Vulcan story I love is from "Old Earth" where he was just re spawning in Mount DeathFire, stepping out of the Lava and then almost emidiatly turning back around and walking back into the Lava to extend his nap.
"Hmmm.... Just 5 days more............"
Big E took over? Vulkans mind and made him create Terra's self destruct button in the final days of the horus heresy, in case if the loyalists lost completely to Horus with no way to win or regroup, as final middle finger to chaos, if Humanity is going down, we are taking as much of chaos as possible with them. Then he gave the said button to Tera's destruction to the most loving primarch, because he knows he can only trust Vulkan with such a decision. The final one. if it comes to that
from the novel; Old Earth: To the Gates of Tera by Nick Kyme
23:00
Vulkan be stubborn.
Option 1, transfer dragon corpse to legs, lift with 2 arms back to safety.
Option 2, hang there, for HOURS, trying to set a new Personal Best for one-arm lifts.
Vulkan: But dem gainz doe.