You know what pokke I feel like JingYuan isn’t gonna be as good in pure fiction as we think he will be not doomposting or anything just worried. Edit: Just tested him out Pure fiction enemies aren’t that strong so he is actually pretty good.
JY high ult energy cost and slow LL makes him less desirable than other erudition units in PF, since its like a mob rush with low TURN limit. This is just my two cent after i compare him with himeko and herta with current PF buffs, LL is agonizingly slow even at full stack when herta and himeko were popping. Maybe future buffs will elevate him but as things stand he kinda suck.
This was honestly a pretty creative way for hoyo to ‘fix’ the Erudition path. Not that where was anything wrong with Erudition before PF to begin with, but characters under this path were underperforming as compared to Destruction and Hunt hypercarries.
Nah, they actually created the problem themselves. They got rid of mobs in moc, they mostly put wind/img/ice on the highest floor for erudition/nihility (mainly JY, Argenti, Kafka, Hoyo lightning when) not to shine there compared to 3 destructions (Seele and monoquantum as well). It’s an artificial separation: pf for AoE, moc for blast/st. You can play eruditions in moc and destructions in pf but it would be sub-optimal. It hurts hunts a little tho, I imagine their performance in pf is not that great.
Imo while yes but i feel like in general, its still not fully fix them But it's still good that atleast they actually have a content where they will shine
@@МаркВедров isn't weakness not much a problem for kafka? She literally use dot, the only thing you need is another dot that match the weakness And since you saya wind, yoi can use sampo which is literally her best teammates so far
@@israyantidien4287 she is more advantageous than JY in that regard but if people see wind they would probably use blade instead of her if they have him and it reflected on their usage rate for months. And judging by next pf buff with dots I feel like mhy pushes dot into pf more than into moc but I can be mistaken
@@Kalab23 yeah Ruan Mei makes her so good. I guess that's the missing piece to her kit. I felt something was missing but with Ruan Mei breaking isn't an issue and it's perfect.
@@kieragardRuan Mei does have anti-synergy with Himeko, though. Even then, it doesn’t really matter in Pure Fiction anyway, enemies die before getting to recover.
@@liquid_cheese9930 u need himeko's followup to not kill the mobs but put them under 50% hp so herta can finish them and break them leading into another himeko followup attack in the next wave
@@Aleks96Clips You can see here 0:08 that himeko uses her follow up then her stacks are 0 and when enemies die she gradually gains stacks, I think that's a bug
I personally like how the hsr dev team approaches this. Instead of trying to change memory of chaos to favor erudition, they can design a new game mode that accommodates them. With this method, “non meta” characters get a chance to shine.
i also prefer this approach , adding more end game mode = more jades income = more variety , also imo they probably need to give us 1 more mode which focused heavily on single target battle, since so far moc is best for destruction and pf is for erudition, we only need 1 more for hunt.
@@dohalimilqarasdeldemenanci8483 what are you talking about? once you are done with story/quests the game offers 15 minutes of daily playtime..maybe even less since they changed the dailies.. once dailies are done and the energy is gone there is nothing to do anymore... the low time investment this game needs is actually one of the reasons why i keep playing it...
@@dohalimilqarasdeldemenanci8483 its not to time consuming, i have 2 genshin and 1 hsr account and i only have to allocate about 10-15 minutes of my time a day for dailies/stamina usage and on saturday i can do all the weekly stuff and have fun with all the content
I feel like hsr is planning to create each path end game, now we have erudition and moc is for everything or maybe destruction unit. Hoping we get a boss for the hunt, maybe more end game like this because I think there's more path
i dont think they would make so much content to make a path specific permenant endgame for all paths unless its 1 time, but they might add 1 more style which has one boss enemies since PF is for erudition and MOC kind of caters to destruction/nihility and any basically aoe focused characters so hunt doesnt have any place to be used optimally unlike all the other paths
@@xenoemblem7 but destruction is best is the meta because there's like 2 elites with minion or a boss with minion so maybe they'll create the next end game for other paths like one boss.
I SCREAMED when i saw Himeko/Herta combo back at it. Used to use it for farming xp books. Can't do it right now because i geared them too much and am too lazy to swap gears every time.
I've planned my account ever since the beginning to only invest on AoE DPS units (with a few exceptions due to resource limitations being Jing Yuan, Kafka, and Argenti), and I'm so glad that so far, it's been paying off extremely well for the current contents. I definitely find Pure Fiction more enjoyable than MoC, though I still desperately need that Lightning coverage lol.
I started playing about 3 weeks ago and am level 55 now, been raising my kafka and himeko since day1 so she about to slam PF. My herta is also decently built so i hope ill have enough to do well
That was super useful. I didn't know about the vulnerability after clearing mobs, nor did I know the "splash" damage from clearing mobs didn't depend on element. That's so good to know. Thanks, man.
8:15 Depends. With Erudition it might be possible to not use a sustain, but with every other class, you will get spawn killed, unless you have like a 160+ speed team.
kafka users, kafka HYPERCARRY is better than double DoT. kafka doesn't have to have crit, just good spd and high atk which u should alr have. kafka + tingyun + ruan mei + huohuo can 40k a lightning side (even without shatter). using another DoT unit will require you to setup DoTs first which is not optimal. kafka + tingyun + huohuo essentially keeps kafka's ult in an almost 100% uptimeif ure missing one of the units mentioned, asta could be a good substitute!
I wanted to raise himeko just for the memes, now I have a reason to XD I know maybe the himeko there is E6 with whale investment but hey at least himeko is meta again xD PD: once again I failed to predict the meta and skipped Argenti, now I'm mad
This explained a lot of what I did wrong when I dove head first into it at reset and brought me to the Serval truth for the bottom half of 4. Thank you sir.
Thank you hoyo for creating tons of different playstyle in the game, the Simulated universe is already fun but with this? i finally can play around different characters hehe
Hemiko was my first ever 5* but i didn't use her much after i got Dhil and blade she was collecting dust but now i gave her quike broom and clearerd pure fiction 1,2,3 with my argenti and hemiko dhil and other mates :)))))
i can only 11 stars with IL + Seele. My selee can't even 1 basic some of the mobs at the 4th stage, and my IL is too slow lol. guess i need to start building herta and himeko soon lol.
I ve said this countless times before to my frds, if they want to buff erudition, it is very simple, just make a gamemode or content that thrives on the niche of AoE mob clear. They dont need to buff a unit to make it meta, they can change the meta however they want, we ve seen this on a smaller scale countless times already w the abyss cycles.
Himeko abs Herta combo was ny favorite Team combo since the start. Finally its usable. Jing Lui qnd Blade the second combo. Hope Star rail builds more combos like these
I got Argenti (purely husbando reasons could not care less about meta) ... and lemme tell you ... I ult-ed my way through pure fiction so fast 😂😂 it was one after another 90 ult 🔥🔥🔥 couldn't be more pleased (though I did have both HuoHuo and TY with him >.>")
my favorite thing about PF is AV not resetting. which means those stupid spd breakpoints are not desirable. before, if you didn't get to 201ish spd, having between 180-200 was technically useless. now more speed is just straight up better than not. specially since ATK boots might be overkill for the mobs
14:40 Just wanted to say for anyone out there like me who doesn't have Himeko, Herta is still very good in this mode even without her. As MrPokke said, with Himeko she is exceedingly strong, and without Himeko she is just strong. But PF is so easy that just strong is good enough. I kind of built her awhile back (level 70, mid relics, mid crit, only traces well invested up to level 11 iirc) because I don't have an ice dps and she was at E6 so I thought why not, but she wasn't performing great in MoC so I didn't use her much. But she's performing fantastically in PF stages with ice weak enemies, even though I don't have Himeko. I got all stars with plenty of time to spare, and on the last stage she was even using a hunt lightcone because my only 2 leveled erudition cones were on Jing Yuan and Argenti. Edit: I do have E1 Ruan Mei, so that probably made a difference. But my point still stands that Himeko is not the only option with Herta.
I was a Herta simp at the beginning.... it is very amazing that the most optimal team rn in the current meta is a Herta team. I have always love you Herta
Technically u need at least destruction units. Any erudition units that has weakness breaks elements will work. Hunt units/single target can go sux arse.
I cannot repeat the same strategy with Himeko and Herta. Can someone explain? You can even see it in the video. Himeko does the follow up -> then Herta (completely destroying toughness bars of all mobs) -> then BEFORE the new wave appears Himeko does another follow up. And since all toughness bars are depleted, she will not gain more stacks (which is what heppens to me when I play). But in the video she gains new stack while mobs are dying. Wtf?
@@liquid_cheese9930 Well, not when I play with her. So my best guess is that it was a glitch, but it was fixed. Regardless, would be nice for Pokke to give some explanation.
@@elhant4994 from the videos I've seen, Himeko seems to gain an extra charge stack when an already weakness broken dead enemy who is weak to physical damage triggers the shatter effect. I'm guessing this is probably a bug. Have you tried it against physical weak enemies?
Honestly with them adding more use to erudition characters i might get himeko with my free 5 atar from standard banner since i already have bronya welt(e1) gepard clara and yanqing i mean its either that or bronya e1
Don't have himeko but jing yuan was my 1st limited dps and herta is on her way ( getting her relics is ... ) Didn't touch him much after i got kafka , time for him to shine !
Anyone else looking at this and thinking. This is Hoyoverse not wanting to buff Erudition, so their making a mode where you need them to push sales... 😒
Look at the glass half full. They’re giving you a mode where people who wish for their favorite erudition units can feel good about building them still and not be as pressured to pull for MoC meta. Both modes give you the same rewards, so just build whoever you want first until you can clear the other mode
@@CodeTetsu Well hopefully you can still manage to claim rewards, even without too many Erudition types. Quinque is the only one I have even close to built, and I don't have any resources... 😅
Glad I pulled before dawn for Himeko, I also got Himeko's LC from standard banner pull last month & it's now on my Herta They're omega bing chilling for pure fiction lol
With Pure Fiction, it makes me wonder if MoC will go back to 1 Elite/Boss enemy with 2-4 trash mobs with it to have content for Hunt/Destruction to showcase ST and Blast It seems redundant to have a mode equivalent of MoC dedicated for AoE and have MoC have large AoE scenarios
Himeko + Pela should also be good. Not as good as Herta since you need Pela to get her ult and therefore you will spend more turns but just putting that out there fore people like me who just don't want to build Herta. I used to use Himeko + Pela for Calyx farming.
@@emperorcaesar4311 Well, that's kind of true but also kind of not. I also already said it would be slower. Pela does also gain ult when enemies die so she's also a bit nicer than you think. But yes, as I've already said, it's not as good. I'm not claiming that it is.
Pela in PF is not good, whoever you pair her with. She debuffs (increases damage against) enemies that are already very easy to one-shot, that even a 4-star with bad base stats and 110% multiplier can do so, without overstacking buffs. If her debuff is useless the only thing she bring is her ultimate's own damage, which is similar to Herta's skill.
My account is freaking stacked but no himeko , no argenti. Only tried one time and failed to get 60k. Wondering who I should build. Maybe herta and serval or something? I mean what are the other options? If herta isn't that good without himeko like you say? Look forward to seeing you do some testing. I know alot of people didn't pill for argenti either.
Himeko trigger's followup every weakness break (regardless who breaks those shield) mostly herta who shreds those shield and ruan mei closing the 3 bar shield to a close. Normally w/0 rm its only 2 bar breaks but with the 50 increase it became reachable 2÷2=1 so its 2+1 = 3 breaks
0:30 How is Himeko gaining talent stacks again in the footage after she just used her talent to attack a bunch of enemies already weakness broken by Herta?
it's time to build Herta for my Himeko. She was lvl 70 but not invested traces wise, calyxes here I come. The problem now is I don't have enough build up lighcones for erudition. Only 2=(
I barely beat Pure Fiction 4 because my account isn't really built for this and no Himeko. It took me multiple tries with different teams until I made one work. On the final fight I needed 40000 points to 3 star and I cleared with a total of 60140 by killing Svarog. First team was Pela/Fu Xuan/Sushang/Herta with my Sushang and Herta not really built, under leveled, and off piece artifacts. Second part I got carried with E2S1 Blade/E1S1 Bronya/E1S1 Ruan Mei/E0S0 Jingliu.
Hahahaha, I knew Himeko/Herta was going to go beast mode in Pure Fiction! I'm so ready to go, Have them + Ruan Mei and either Asta or Argenti on one account, and them + Topaz + Bronya on another. So excited to see how they wreck. Too bad Jing Yuan probably isn't going to be great because of how LL works.
@@МаркВедровI tried it with JY. It's not that LL is not doing damage, it's because LL can only move once per cycle, and you only get 4 cycles in this mode. JY himself felt strong with his skill and ult (can pretty much kill all small mobs), but LL moving once per cycle even with 10 stacks really hurts him in this mode. If only hoyo make it so LL strike immediately when 10 stacks Ngl, I felt like MoC is a better game mode for JY compared to PF, because if you clear a wave the cycle resets. And if you kill mobs, LL can do high single target damage
@@dr.stonksakahelth5857 you just need to speed buff him. I cleared with him 2nd part 40k with spd boots and 3 speed buff harmonies (Asta, TY, RM or you can use Hanya). He spammed E and Q quite a lot, considering there is no sub-dps and all the damage is from him. Use 2nd pf buff btw. I think he's pretty strong in any mode, you just need to play him a little bit different in MoC and PF.
Trust me himeko and herta is literally a two man team. All you need to chain is the follow up timing and it will auto clear and enemy never gets a chance
I think this mode gernerally prefers duo DPS over hypercarry I managed 40k point on first side with Jingliu Blade Ruan Mei FX.(JIngliu Bronya hypercarry only got about 30k smth) . Himeko + X subdps for breaking is obviously the most broken Using Himeko over Bronya is almost always better especially when you add Ruan Mei. So Bronya reign might finally be over atleast for this mode?
It is 100% true that Dual Carry is a better option than Hyper Carry in PF. Hyper Carry teams usually oversaturate one character with buffs who then sweeps the enemies, but in PF due to mobs being way weaker than in MoC it is not optimal. Bronya is probably still the best option, she essentially adds an additional action (another wave clear) for your carry. Even in dual carry teams, where her value is diminished you'd be getting 50% more "carry" attacks. Stack that with her LC and E1, and even Ruan E1+LC is unlikely to top that.
@@Amir-ih6jj Well I have tested Ruan Mei vs Bronya many times. Although my account is limited Ruan mei+ dual carry outperform Bronya everytime. Bronya only feel good when you already have a very good Erudition like Argenti. but it's still not as strong as Ruan Mei + dual carry with 1-2 Erudition. ( the hillariously broken Himeko+Hera+Ruan Mei for example) Ruan Mei can also carry weaker dual carry past 30k points way better, and if you have 1 erudition in it it's easy 40k points no sweat it's smthg Bronya can't do. I think most of the community havent' built dual carry so people havent catch up .I prefer dual carry over hyper and have been building them long before PF release so it worked out and is way better for PF at least in my case.
I was suprised that my JY only needed two lightning lord to clear the first two waves and managed to get around 31k points with 4 stars supports. But JY himeko Ruan Mei team is way faster than JY hyper carry team, got 40000 points.
There are tons of good units I didn’t add here, like Ruan Mei Jingyuan Serval etc, will be doing a followup guide soon!
Himeko Herta goes brr 🗿
You know what pokke I feel like JingYuan isn’t gonna be as good in pure fiction as we think he will be not doomposting or anything just worried.
Edit: Just tested him out Pure fiction enemies aren’t that strong so he is actually pretty good.
midyuan destroy all meta
Would kafka be good with the herta LC to get a lot of wnergy back?
JY high ult energy cost and slow LL makes him less desirable than other erudition units in PF, since its like a mob rush with low TURN limit. This is just my two cent after i compare him with himeko and herta with current PF buffs, LL is agonizingly slow even at full stack when herta and himeko were popping.
Maybe future buffs will elevate him but as things stand he kinda suck.
@@user-tsukimikado19he is still decent because aoe skill and ult.
This was honestly a pretty creative way for hoyo to ‘fix’ the Erudition path. Not that where was anything wrong with Erudition before PF to begin with, but characters under this path were underperforming as compared to Destruction and Hunt hypercarries.
Not all Erudition characters are underperforming. Argenti and Qinque are performing well. In the Hunt path, only Seele performs well as a hypercarry.
Nah, they actually created the problem themselves. They got rid of mobs in moc, they mostly put wind/img/ice on the highest floor for erudition/nihility (mainly JY, Argenti, Kafka, Hoyo lightning when) not to shine there compared to 3 destructions (Seele and monoquantum as well). It’s an artificial separation: pf for AoE, moc for blast/st. You can play eruditions in moc and destructions in pf but it would be sub-optimal. It hurts hunts a little tho, I imagine their performance in pf is not that great.
Imo while yes but i feel like in general, its still not fully fix them
But it's still good that atleast they actually have a content where they will shine
@@МаркВедров isn't weakness not much a problem for kafka?
She literally use dot, the only thing you need is another dot that match the weakness
And since you saya wind, yoi can use sampo which is literally her best teammates so far
@@israyantidien4287 she is more advantageous than JY in that regard but if people see wind they would probably use blade instead of her if they have him and it reflected on their usage rate for months. And judging by next pf buff with dots I feel like mhy pushes dot into pf more than into moc but I can be mistaken
The herta and himeko combo stays winning
i went all in with himeko when people said she was bad, now im laughing🤣
I just finished building her so I’m ready 😂 people still think she sucks when she’s ab to be so cracked with raun mei
I have been maining Himeko since day one, but I also know my Argenti will perform a lot better there so I'm ready if we need two teams.
@@Kalab23 yeah Ruan Mei makes her so good. I guess that's the missing piece to her kit. I felt something was missing but with Ruan Mei breaking isn't an issue and it's perfect.
@@kieragardRuan Mei does have anti-synergy with Himeko, though. Even then, it doesn’t really matter in Pure Fiction anyway, enemies die before getting to recover.
Herta is next my boy
That first minute of himeko and herta is PEAK ERUDITION... Time to build herta
This doesn't seem to work for me. Could've been a bug
@@liquid_cheese9930 u need himeko's followup to not kill the mobs but put them under 50% hp so herta can finish them and break them leading into another himeko followup attack in the next wave
@@Aleks96Clips You can see here 0:08 that himeko uses her follow up then her stacks are 0 and when enemies die she gradually gains stacks, I think that's a bug
@@liquid_cheese9930Herta weakness break them and then they died. That still counts for Himeko's talent.
I personally like how the hsr dev team approaches this. Instead of trying to change memory of chaos to favor erudition, they can design a new game mode that accommodates them. With this method, “non meta” characters get a chance to shine.
i also prefer this approach , adding more end game mode = more jades income = more variety , also imo they probably need to give us 1 more mode which focused heavily on single target battle, since so far moc is best for destruction and pf is for erudition, we only need 1 more for hunt.
@@jabermogwai5996 Boss rush mode would be cool
Now we can say they are meta in pure fiction 😀
@@betulla96they might put an elite/boss with near unkillable hp just earning points depending on damage dealt
Same. Something like pure fiction but single target oriented for Hunt Characters would be neat too
I have been preaching the ways of erudition for long, now we are finally meta and I couldn't be any happier (I was bored of using my E2 Lunae)
One of my accounts has ONLY Erudition DPS built (only missing Jing Yuan of available units) and is really excited for this new game mode!
@@KahlevNone of your accounts? Where you even get time to play multiple accounts?🤨
@@dohalimilqarasdeldemenanci8483 I have 3 accounts at Trailblaze 60+ and I started in October
@@dohalimilqarasdeldemenanci8483 what are you talking about? once you are done with story/quests the game offers 15 minutes of daily playtime..maybe even less since they changed the dailies.. once dailies are done and the energy is gone there is nothing to do anymore... the low time investment this game needs is actually one of the reasons why i keep playing it...
@@dohalimilqarasdeldemenanci8483 its not to time consuming, i have 2 genshin and 1 hsr account and i only have to allocate about 10-15 minutes of my time a day for dailies/stamina usage and on saturday i can do all the weekly stuff and have fun with all the content
Argenti and JY carried all the floors with 3 stars.
Now, we just need exclusively single target content so Hunt characters outside of seele and topaz, can get their moment.
Seele is better with small mobs with a boss lol
@@looots1320they literally said outside of seele and topaz
@@angellic8396 you right
MoC is 1 or 2 elites tho, if that's not good content for hunt then idk
@@Servalsno1fan 2 elites is already dropping point
finished it the whole thing in 15 minutes . EZ himeko and herta carried so hard this one lmao
I feel like hsr is planning to create each path end game, now we have erudition and moc is for everything or maybe destruction unit. Hoping we get a boss for the hunt, maybe more end game like this because I think there's more path
MoC is for generalized gameplay, meaning anything goes, but Pure Fiction literally caters to Erudition
i dont think they would make so much content to make a path specific permenant endgame for all paths unless its 1 time, but they might add 1 more style which has one boss enemies since PF is for erudition and MOC kind of caters to destruction/nihility and any basically aoe focused characters so hunt doesnt have any place to be used optimally unlike all the other paths
@@zankoushadow yeah that's what I'm saying if they do this is a Dub
@@xenoemblem7 but destruction is best is the meta because there's like 2 elites with minion or a boss with minion so maybe they'll create the next end game for other paths like one boss.
I dreamt about sam who is ehem, a soloist boss 💀@@datukatsura12
recently built himeko in anticipation for pure fiction! this is perfect. Also Mr. Pokke is a Singaporean sex symbol and scholar
yeah.. leak from insiders appear to be true.
I just got himeko on standard! Perfect timing and I always wanted her
I SCREAMED when i saw Himeko/Herta combo back at it. Used to use it for farming xp books. Can't do it right now because i geared them too much and am too lazy to swap gears every time.
All of us people who lost 50/50 to Himeko are eating good now 😊😊 (Hope you actually invested into building her though 💀)
mines been in the back with amber 🤣
Meta Team :
Team 1 Argenti
Team 2 Himeko-Herta
= Max Point
I've planned my account ever since the beginning to only invest on AoE DPS units (with a few exceptions due to resource limitations being Jing Yuan, Kafka, and Argenti), and I'm so glad that so far, it's been paying off extremely well for the current contents. I definitely find Pure Fiction more enjoyable than MoC, though I still desperately need that Lightning coverage lol.
I started playing about 3 weeks ago and am level 55 now, been raising my kafka and himeko since day1 so she about to slam PF. My herta is also decently built so i hope ill have enough to do well
Thank god I built Himeko+Herta pair as a joke months ago, now due to my Kafka grind, I have tons of good Relics😄😄
Glad I have a pretty well geared Himeko and a decently geared Herta, both max level. .. But also Argenti pretty geared too lol.
i pull argenti and i still remember everyone shitting on him when he reslish 🤣 its so funny
Wait… himeko, herta, to break, run mei for break damage, and topaz to kill the boss while at it for free
That was super useful. I didn't know about the vulnerability after clearing mobs, nor did I know the "splash" damage from clearing mobs didn't depend on element. That's so good to know. Thanks, man.
Finally my E2 Himeko will shine as the litteral star she is...❤
I prepared my Himeko and Herta for weeks just for this gamemode and man they deliver.
I got Himeko built and i just started working on Herta this morning lolll
As a himeko main, I approve this game mode
8:15 Depends. With Erudition it might be possible to not use a sustain, but with every other class, you will get spawn killed, unless you have like a 160+ speed team.
Still got 12 more hours until it's open for Na servers; I'm going to be up at 4 am for this LOL
kafka users, kafka HYPERCARRY is better than double DoT. kafka doesn't have to have crit, just good spd and high atk which u should alr have. kafka + tingyun + ruan mei + huohuo can 40k a lightning side (even without shatter). using another DoT unit will require you to setup DoTs first which is not optimal. kafka + tingyun + huohuo essentially keeps kafka's ult in an almost 100% uptimeif ure missing one of the units mentioned, asta could be a good substitute!
lol people never thought they would see the day Herta would be a better pick than Dang Heng
I wanted to raise himeko just for the memes, now I have a reason to XD I know maybe the himeko there is E6 with whale investment but hey at least himeko is meta again xD
PD: once again I failed to predict the meta and skipped Argenti, now I'm mad
This explained a lot of what I did wrong when I dove head first into it at reset and brought me to the Serval truth for the bottom half of 4. Thank you sir.
Erudition! we're back in the game!
Thank you hoyo for creating tons of different playstyle in the game, the Simulated universe is already fun but with this? i finally can play around different characters hehe
imo this shows how strong Ruan Mei is buffing many different team comps but im also super glad for Himeko and Herta 🤙🏼
Hemiko was my first ever 5* but i didn't use her much after i got Dhil and blade she was collecting dust but now i gave her quike broom and clearerd pure fiction 1,2,3 with my argenti and hemiko dhil and other mates :)))))
it's Himeko
@@lunafreed no
Out of the standard 5 stars the only 1 im missing is himeko, the very lady who made me play this game. Im sad
i can only 11 stars with IL + Seele.
My selee can't even 1 basic some of the mobs at the 4th stage, and my IL is too slow lol.
guess i need to start building herta and himeko soon lol.
Himeko's LC is finally so good in this mode
“Meat grinder” himeko and “skull crusher” herta
Guess I'm leveling Herta
Finally a mode where jingliu blade outperforms jingliu hypercarry
I ve said this countless times before to my frds, if they want to buff erudition, it is very simple, just make a gamemode or content that thrives on the niche of AoE mob clear. They dont need to buff a unit to make it meta, they can change the meta however they want, we ve seen this on a smaller scale countless times already w the abyss cycles.
Himeko abs Herta combo was ny favorite Team combo since the start. Finally its usable. Jing Lui qnd Blade the second combo. Hope Star rail builds more combos like these
Ourgenti getting energy like crazy
I mean, People have been asking where Erudition content. There you have it.
Managed to full star after a bit of tryharding. Final teams were Imbibitor Ruan Pela Herta and Serval Tingyun Asta Blade
Man.... I was so happy since the beggining of the game for never getting a himeko before pure fiction.
Me too😭 im a followup unit collector (blade, topaz, jy) but himeko is just not coming home... 🥲
Remember in the beginning of the game everyone telling Himeko+ herta is op? Hehe boy
I got Argenti (purely husbando reasons could not care less about meta) ... and lemme tell you ... I ult-ed my way through pure fiction so fast 😂😂 it was one after another 90 ult 🔥🔥🔥 couldn't be more pleased
(though I did have both HuoHuo and TY with him >.>")
my favorite thing about PF is AV not resetting.
which means those stupid spd breakpoints are not desirable.
before, if you didn't get to 201ish spd, having between 180-200 was technically useless.
now more speed is just straight up better than not. specially since ATK boots might be overkill for the mobs
Gonna try to brute force this side with Jingliu, if that doenst work I got a reason to build my E1 Himeko and Kurukuru.
Win win.
Finally its time for my highest invested unit, Mid Yuan to become King Yuan, i guess ill need and energy regen rope now...
Tbf Mid Yuan has been not a thing anymore for a while now
Well well time to build red aunty and kuru2.. thx pokke for the guide! :)
I guess imma start cleaning dust from E1 Himeko now
So far it was easier than moc surpisingly
It's the first one. Tou know this is just to get us settled
Himeko value is up. Now, Mihoyo will spam Yanqing for your gacha
Himeko + Herta combo is satisfying
Ive been running Himeko Herta combi for farm all game with Ruan mei so this is a win for me
To see herta and himeko shine like this is like a dream come true . Also my e1 himeko is gonna be a lot more valuable now
14:40 Just wanted to say for anyone out there like me who doesn't have Himeko, Herta is still very good in this mode even without her. As MrPokke said, with Himeko she is exceedingly strong, and without Himeko she is just strong. But PF is so easy that just strong is good enough. I kind of built her awhile back (level 70, mid relics, mid crit, only traces well invested up to level 11 iirc) because I don't have an ice dps and she was at E6 so I thought why not, but she wasn't performing great in MoC so I didn't use her much. But she's performing fantastically in PF stages with ice weak enemies, even though I don't have Himeko. I got all stars with plenty of time to spare, and on the last stage she was even using a hunt lightcone because my only 2 leveled erudition cones were on Jing Yuan and Argenti. Edit: I do have E1 Ruan Mei, so that probably made a difference. But my point still stands that Himeko is not the only option with Herta.
JL + Blade would also slap?
I'm just happy I have a reason to build the Himeko that keeps appearing on my 50/50s tbh
I was a Herta simp at the beginning.... it is very amazing that the most optimal team rn in the current meta is a Herta team. I have always love you Herta
Technically u need at least destruction units. Any erudition units that has weakness breaks elements will work.
Hunt units/single target can go sux arse.
now we understand the point of the event in 1.1...it was to test for this event
I cannot repeat the same strategy with Himeko and Herta. Can someone explain?
You can even see it in the video. Himeko does the follow up -> then Herta (completely destroying toughness bars of all mobs) -> then BEFORE the new wave appears Himeko does another follow up. And since all toughness bars are depleted, she will not gain more stacks (which is what heppens to me when I play). But in the video she gains new stack while mobs are dying. Wtf?
This confused me as well. Is Himeko somehow gaining charge stacks when the enemies die and trigger Shatter damage?
Same. I even went and re-read her eidolons but there doesn't seem to be anything like that
So it seems that Himeko gets a stack when an already weakness broken and dead enemy blows up
@@liquid_cheese9930 Well, not when I play with her. So my best guess is that it was a glitch, but it was fixed. Regardless, would be nice for Pokke to give some explanation.
@@elhant4994 from the videos I've seen, Himeko seems to gain an extra charge stack when an already weakness broken dead enemy who is weak to physical damage triggers the shatter effect. I'm guessing this is probably a bug. Have you tried it against physical weak enemies?
is it time for himeko to rise?
The time is now, friend. The time is now.
Building Herta is a convenient thing. Still full 12-Star PF with just Jingliu + Himeko in the last stage.
Honestly with them adding more use to erudition characters i might get himeko with my free 5 atar from standard banner since i already have bronya welt(e1) gepard clara and yanqing i mean its either that or bronya e1
Now i can enjoy more "NIGASANAI KURU KURU" and "NIGASANAI KURURIN"
Don't have himeko but jing yuan was my 1st limited dps and herta is on her way ( getting her relics is ... ) Didn't touch him much after i got kafka , time for him to shine !
Anyone else looking at this and thinking. This is Hoyoverse not wanting to buff Erudition, so their making a mode where you need them to push sales... 😒
Erudition didn't need to be buffed. This mode takes advantage of their AoE coverage.
Look at the glass half full. They’re giving you a mode where people who wish for their favorite erudition units can feel good about building them still and not be as pressured to pull for MoC meta. Both modes give you the same rewards, so just build whoever you want first until you can clear the other mode
@@CodeTetsu Well hopefully you can still manage to claim rewards, even without too many Erudition types. Quinque is the only one I have even close to built, and I don't have any resources... 😅
Glad I pulled before dawn for Himeko, I also got Himeko's LC from standard banner pull last month & it's now on my Herta
They're omega bing chilling for pure fiction lol
What LC are you using on Himeko?
@@tygerlillee before dawn. Although if I'm not mistaken before dawn should be better on Herta instead. tbh I swap em pretty often lol
With Pure Fiction, it makes me wonder if MoC will go back to 1 Elite/Boss enemy with 2-4 trash mobs with it to have content for Hunt/Destruction to showcase ST and Blast
It seems redundant to have a mode equivalent of MoC dedicated for AoE and have MoC have large AoE scenarios
hypest intro ever 💯💯💯
Himeko + Pela should also be good. Not as good as Herta since you need Pela to get her ult and therefore you will spend more turns but just putting that out there fore people like me who just don't want to build Herta.
I used to use Himeko + Pela for Calyx farming.
Pela only triggers the follow up once, but Herta can keep triggering it.
well that would only unable himeko but pela would have to deal a high amount of damage to replace herta's dps
@@emperorcaesar4311 Well, that's kind of true but also kind of not. I also already said it would be slower. Pela does also gain ult when enemies die so she's also a bit nicer than you think. But yes, as I've already said, it's not as good. I'm not claiming that it is.
No, without Herta, you won't get the chain of follow-ups. Himeko + Pela isn't a thing, that's just Himeko hypercarry.
Pela in PF is not good, whoever you pair her with. She debuffs (increases damage against) enemies that are already very easy to one-shot, that even a 4-star with bad base stats and 110% multiplier can do so, without overstacking buffs. If her debuff is useless the only thing she bring is her ultimate's own damage, which is similar to Herta's skill.
Selee is pretty underrated in this mode. Her hypercsrry team can clear with higher pts than my JL hupercarry team.
Now himeko is safe to say a valuable option on the free 5 star on standard❤️
My account is freaking stacked but no himeko , no argenti. Only tried one time and failed to get 60k. Wondering who I should build. Maybe herta and serval or something? I mean what are the other options? If herta isn't that good without himeko like you say? Look forward to seeing you do some testing. I know alot of people didn't pill for argenti either.
Where's the builds though? How come Himeko/Herta on your video do 10x times damage compared to mine? Is Himeko E6S6 or something?
That intro was badass
I dont have ANY of these unit built
how do u get Herta E6? from gacha or SimUni or something else?
U get E4 maximum from SU I think
Gacha
1st 5 copies are free from SU the last 2 are gacha.
Why was Himeko getting her stacks here 0:08 no enemies were broken anymore and she seemingly gained stacks from mobs dying. How does this work?
Himeko trigger's followup every weakness break (regardless who breaks those shield) mostly herta who shreds those shield and ruan mei closing the 3 bar shield to a close.
Normally w/0 rm its only 2 bar breaks but with the 50 increase it became reachable
2÷2=1 so its 2+1 = 3 breaks
@@Yaoyue春 she triggers follow up - > stacks at 0 - > enemies explode - > himeko has 3 stacks again. No breaks were happening in between
Ahh i see, himeko follow up atk is already registered on the AV so it is safe to say that from herta's followup, she might've break 3 more
@@Yaoyue春 enemies are not weak to fire, also their break bars were already depleted. You can't break an enemy if it has no break bar
@@liquid_cheese9930 ohh, i mean herta's
0:30 How is Himeko gaining talent stacks again in the footage after she just used her talent to attack a bunch of enemies already weakness broken by Herta?
it's time to build Herta for my Himeko. She was lvl 70 but not invested traces wise, calyxes here I come. The problem now is I don't have enough build up lighcones for erudition. Only 2=(
Easy 720 stellar jades
Wish I had a Himeko, but will try to beat it without building my herta
Such a cool intro😀
Time to build my Blade for Jingliu and Himeko since I lack any fire dps at all. Not sure Ill build Herta anytime before Dr. Ratio tho.
I barely beat Pure Fiction 4 because my account isn't really built for this and no Himeko. It took me multiple tries with different teams until I made one work. On the final fight I needed 40000 points to 3 star and I cleared with a total of 60140 by killing Svarog. First team was Pela/Fu Xuan/Sushang/Herta with my Sushang and Herta not really built, under leveled, and off piece artifacts. Second part I got carried with E2S1 Blade/E1S1 Bronya/E1S1 Ruan Mei/E0S0 Jingliu.
Hahahaha, I knew Himeko/Herta was going to go beast mode in Pure Fiction! I'm so ready to go, Have them + Ruan Mei and either Asta or Argenti on one account, and them + Topaz + Bronya on another. So excited to see how they wreck. Too bad Jing Yuan probably isn't going to be great because of how LL works.
Please stop thinking that JY=LL. He has 5 target E and Q
@@МаркВедровI tried it with JY. It's not that LL is not doing damage, it's because LL can only move once per cycle, and you only get 4 cycles in this mode. JY himself felt strong with his skill and ult (can pretty much kill all small mobs), but LL moving once per cycle even with 10 stacks really hurts him in this mode. If only hoyo make it so LL strike immediately when 10 stacks
Ngl, I felt like MoC is a better game mode for JY compared to PF, because if you clear a wave the cycle resets. And if you kill mobs, LL can do high single target damage
@@dr.stonksakahelth5857 you just need to speed buff him. I cleared with him 2nd part 40k with spd boots and 3 speed buff harmonies (Asta, TY, RM or you can use Hanya). He spammed E and Q quite a lot, considering there is no sub-dps and all the damage is from him. Use 2nd pf buff btw.
I think he's pretty strong in any mode, you just need to play him a little bit different in MoC and PF.
Hello. I have a question, how come Himeko get Follow up attack Stacks when the mobs get exploded?
Trust me himeko and herta is literally a two man team. All you need to chain is the follow up timing and it will auto clear and enemy never gets a chance
Argenti with ult dmg buff that stacks is just nuts, u don’t need his 180 ult at all i spam his 90 ukt to 40k all 4 level
Should I build Herta with a break build if I am using Himeko?
I think this mode gernerally prefers duo DPS over hypercarry
I managed 40k point on first side with Jingliu Blade Ruan Mei FX.(JIngliu Bronya hypercarry only got about 30k smth) .
Himeko + X subdps for breaking is obviously the most broken Using Himeko over Bronya is almost always better especially when you add Ruan Mei.
So Bronya reign might finally be over atleast for this mode?
It is 100% true that Dual Carry is a better option than Hyper Carry in PF. Hyper Carry teams usually oversaturate one character with buffs who then sweeps the enemies, but in PF due to mobs being way weaker than in MoC it is not optimal.
Bronya is probably still the best option, she essentially adds an additional action (another wave clear) for your carry. Even in dual carry teams, where her value is diminished you'd be getting 50% more "carry" attacks. Stack that with her LC and E1, and even Ruan E1+LC is unlikely to top that.
@@Amir-ih6jj Well I have tested Ruan Mei vs Bronya many times. Although my account is limited Ruan mei+ dual carry outperform Bronya everytime. Bronya only feel good when you already have a very good Erudition like Argenti. but it's still not as strong as Ruan Mei + dual carry with 1-2 Erudition. ( the hillariously broken Himeko+Hera+Ruan Mei for example) Ruan Mei can also carry weaker dual carry past 30k points way better, and if you have 1 erudition in it it's easy 40k points no sweat it's smthg Bronya can't do.
I think most of the community havent' built dual carry so people havent catch up .I prefer dual carry over hyper and have been building them long before PF release so it worked out and is way better for PF at least in my case.
I was suprised that my JY only needed two lightning lord to clear the first two waves and managed to get around 31k points with 4 stars supports. But JY himeko Ruan Mei team is way faster than JY hyper carry team, got 40000 points.