Khornes hatred burns probably very differently depending what Nurgle does. He wants blood to spill and murder to happen, so if Nurgle lets those rot that murdered and bled and died before he probably doesnt care. But if he makes them numb and sluggish and cause them to slowly rot instead of fighting and murdering he is probably very dissapointed and gnashing his teeth.
I think Khorne is all about death by glorious, bloody combat, so I imagine he wouldn't find a bunch of bloated blobs of flesh a cash money move from Grandpa Nurgle
@@sparking023 What if the blobs are filled with blood? Like, a stupidly large amount of blood? And covered in spikes? Spikes that puncture their neighbor blobs and cause them to bleed? (I'm shitposting, but I guess if worshippers of Chaos undivided exist, there can be those who mix and match who they worship to an extent.)
Typically whenever a Little Lord gets hurt the members feliver them to the Tally man so that he can nurse them back to health. And they also put bad nurglings into Jars.
Tzeentch also hates nurgle because he's unpredictable. Tzeentch plans things and predicts fate, but nurgle defies fate by not moving, disease travels by near random chance, and so nurgles powers, motives, and overall might are nigh unpredictable, all while the fucker lays there and does nothing; in contrast to Tzeentch sweating bullets calculating every contingency.
I mean, yes and no Nurgle is the unmovable object Tzeentch is the unstoppable force The two dont really cant really make sense of the other, lest make use of it, so of course they are enemies
Not quite. Nurgle is INEVITABLE. It doesn't matter what you do, it doesn't matter what you scheme. Nurgle's love is DESTINY. His victory is GUARANTEED. Nurgle only acts because he wants to; he does not need to do anything, for his absolute domination over everything is a fact. But the Grandfather is full of life! He wants to experience life! And so he works to bring forth his gifts to everyone! Boys, girls, xenos, everyone is loved by Nurgle! If you know Nurgle, if you know his eternal love, then excitement for life is (almost) guaranteed! You will bloat with his endless love! You will be host to countless new friends!
Giving in and serving Nurgle doesn't remove his curse (the whole rotting to death and regrowing new shit while still alive shtick), it simply gives you the strength to be ok with it/takes the pain away.
no it doesn't make the pain go away nor does it make you okay with it. in fact many of his followers DESPISE and REJECTED death, and embraced nurgle to throw off the shackles. many have refused death and gained immortality, like davey jones crewmen. if anything nurgle is the god of the persistant nature of life to strive through any suffering, and makes you immune to pain
Nurgle is your grandpa. Old and gross but spreading joy and praise. Tzeentch is your older brother causing problems and getting you blamed for them. Khorne is your pops after he's had a few too many whiskeys and becomes inherently violent and racist. And Slaanesh is that uncle that we NEVER.... ever... ever.... speak about o.O
There was a story, some time after the fall of Cadia and during the invasion of Ultramar, wherein the emperor severed the Death Guards connection to the warp.(Also this had a small part to do with Mortarion ignoring Nurgle's call to return to the Warp to protect his domain from invasion). As soon as it happened, several members of the death guard went insane, screaming in pain and disgust of what became of them. Part of the "issue" with being a nurgle follower, is the rot that effects your mind your in a constant fever dream, and your perception is warper. I mean. They literally spread disease and suffering to others. The thing they fell to nurgle to avoid.
You know you just gave me something to think about, is possible that the death guard is not entirely sure of following nurgle but with so much rotting in their minds all those emotions are suppress
Would that be similar to other chaos worshipers and traitor legions? If they were disconnected from the warp and their gods, would they understand what they had done? Would they repent or go mad?
@@thelion2751 They're basically in a delirium 24/7. They're down with Nurgle, but only because they're not really in a fit mental state to be making important decisions. If they were, they might not be Nurgle followers.
IIRC the numbers associated with each Chaos God reflect their magical affinity. Magnus gave some speech about numerology and how it reflects in psyker powers so assumedly certain numbers are more conducive to certain powers
The most intimidating part about fighting any nurgle army (in the lore, not tabletop) as anything other than a space-marine is seldom talked about: even if everything goes great and you win, you will likely spend the rest of your, probably quite short, life as a disease-ridden wreck who has to be isolated from others.
Well, considering who you play against in real life on tabletop, you may still have to worry about catching something, so the table top can match the lore.
The most BLESSED thing! Where before you were a miserable guardsman leading a pointless life, you now are blessed by Grandfather! How is that now the most glorious reward? How is that not the most joyous of fates?
nurgle being a god of stagnation and not doing anything makes the death guard very interesting, one of the most active chaos factions fucking up the materium are the ones who worship the embodiment of sleeping in until 4pm
I'm sad that none of the fun story shit with Nurgle was discussed. No talking about Isha, no talking about beasts of Nurgle being dumb puppy slugs that eventually develop clinical depression and turn into rot flies but Nurgle finds them a friend so they don't have to be lonely, no talking about the stories of great unclean ones. Like how one is trying to atone for the sin of being a nurgling who drank the entirety of Nurgle's current brew while Nurgle just finds the whole thing adorable and isn't actually mad about it.
Nurgle doesn't change the same way Tzeentch does. Nurgle represents a stable cycle; life, death, rebirth. Same starting point, same outcome every time. Tzeentch is all about radical change. He'd toss out random mutations or light you on fire because you'd be changed from what you were nine seconds ago. Whether you end up a chaos spawn or a burn victim doesn't really matter to him so long as things keep happening.
@@sparking023 Essentially. Tzeentch is every freedom fighter ever born and every anarchist that has ever murdered children in the name of overthrowing the government; Nurgle is every disease and plague, and also every place of stability and comfort. Khorne is every fight for truth and justice, and every bloody massacre. Slaanesh is every physical pleasure - for better and for worse - you have ever felt. The sense is that the cosmos is supposed to be incomplete and unstable without them, in a sense.
I would argue that Nurgle is about stagnation. Less the cycle moving as intended, and more it reaching the lowest point - following the path of least resistance - and then languishing there. A stagnant pond, playing host to foul-smelling algae and a spawning ground for insects and parasites. Getting to that point is what matters to Nurgle, not whether it advances beyond it. Tzeentch, meanwhile, is all about that change. Of moving from one stage to another. In many ways they are both opposites and two sides of the same coin. Nurgle trends things towards the nadir, Tzeentch forces them back up and around.
Can someone back me up here, I could have sworn of the chaos gods, the strongest rivalries were between Khorne and Tzeentch, and then Nurgle and Slaanesh. I must have heard this in one of the old codexes, but it makes sense with Khone's particular disdain for psykers and trickery. And Slaanesh, who epitomizes perfection and sensation, conflicts with Nurgle and his acceptance of age, decay, and stagnation. This could be just some Mandela effect shit on my part, but I can't be the only one who thinks Bricky is missing something here with the Chaos gods and their rivalries.
Rasputin strikes me more as a Vampire Counts character from Warhammer Fantasy, rather than Nurgle. He's dead, but not really in a "we all rot together" way. He's more Necromancer than plague-bearer. Plus, he uses bats.
The Death Guard comes from the planet Barbarus. A medieval farming-culture planet shrouded in fog like Silent Hill, but the fog is poisonous, so everyone needs rebreathers to go outside. There are giant, skinny humanoid monsters in the fog (Pale Kings), with bad eyesight. They'll rip off your roof and eat your family Attack On Titan style. Because of the "Marrowrot" people don't live very long (someone over 30 is described as ancient), and for the kids to survive they need to know when to sow and harvest etc. This is taught to them in a limerick with 3 and 7 being very important numbers, and so they'll often obsessively repeat these limericks to themselves to remember. Over time these have become culturally important numbers. Mortarion the Primarch has 3 bodyguards (Deathshroud) that always walk 7 paces behind him etc. On a sidenote, Nurgle is obsessed with enumerating EVERY disease in existence. How many types of common cold are there? There are daemons whose whole life consists of cataloguing this.
If you haven't read it already, the leader of the Death Guard warband, The Lords of Silence, named Siegemaster Vorx, is seen constantly counting to the number seven on the Lords of Silence book.
@@Jormyyy I've read it. It's also Vorx as a child that keeps repeating the limerick in the short story Unification. If you like the Lords of Silence you can also read about Dragan's origin in the short story Endurance, all of them written by Chris Wraight. Hey, that's 3 DG stories by the same author! Coincidence? Vorx would say not.
During the Siege of Terra, Death Guard Astartes Have a conversation about how they don’t really worry or care about anything anymore. They don’t hate the loyalists, they just fight because it’s something fun to do.
Tzeentch and Nurgle represent polar opposites of the concept of change. One is change through a constant cycle. The other is changed through circumvention of the cycle. Much like how khorne and Slaanesh are polar opposites of death one through quick bloody battle and the other through slow torment.
@@MPHJackson7 both are accepting of change, its mostly just the degree of agency within the change they take. Tzeentch is an active change, agent of change fits, he has plots that might be foiled (or that might just be part of the larger plot). Nergal is a passive change, slow but certain you can't really stop rot or entropy no matter how hard. Both seek to cause change but Nergal lets all things change in their own time.
Here some more strangely wholesome facts about Nurgle: Once a bunch of orks discovered an ancient shrine dedicated to Nurgle, however they misstook it for Gork (or prehaps Mork) and started "worshiping" it. Once Nurgle took notice of it he actually did not mind at all that their worship was not ment to be directed at him and he just apreciated it for what it was. So he just blessed them with his "gifts" again not to be mean but because this is his way of showing his love and ordered a bunch of his daemons to assist those orks with their wars whenever they needed help. Also, Nurgle in contrast to other Chaos Gods he barely creates new daemons (atleast in comparison) . Instead he pretty much turns the souls of his deceased followers into new daemons. Meaning that he is one of the few deities in 40K that actually offers any kind of rewarding afterlife to his followers
Fair enough. If I had to choose (and there’s not another afterlife by following good ol Emprah) a Chaos God to follow I guess it would be him. An afterlife is better than getting my soul rended in the Warp unprotected, js
Im from dayton and we dont even go up to that shit hole of a place. Your only solace is that your not Detroit and that your entire economy is based off of lebron james
Nurgle is the opposition to change, thus he seeks the state that is most stagnant. Tzneetch is change for its own sake, not to any real purpose. About the only reason he has some kind of plan is because intrigue is part of his sphere too. So he has to screw up everybody else's fun or else he isn't doing his job.
From what I've gathered from these episodes, Bricky = Imperial guardsmen/ Battle nun lover tainted by tzeentch and given too much access to the black library. DK = Thousand Son Nurgle convert enjoying being an absolute empty mind pepsi can a little too much. Shy = Ork warboss gifted with Khorne's axe of friendly fire via shitposting.
@@deadcheckofficial1815 Bricky: Night Lord that loves Imperial Guardsman and Sisters of Battle tainted by Tzeentcg that read too much from the Black Library
he's the only chaos god that is actually happy about his follower's deeds. Like a cheery old grandfather listening to the exploits of his grandchildren and giving them "blessings" in the only way he knows how: making the horrific mutations and plagues either painless, or inexplicably beneficial to their host rather than lethal like they are to people who don't follow nurgle.
Khorne sees his followers as disposable weapons. Tzeentch sees his followers as useful idiots. Slanesh sees her followers as breakable toys. By comparison, Nurgle taking the pain away is a blessing
Mainly in the fact if you fail any other god in 40k they obliterate your soul (if you're lucky) with nurgle he just puts you in time out for a few hundred years and then sends you on your way with a pat on the back and a "good luck out there, sport"
I don't really have the money or experience to act on it but I really kinda want to make a VERY customized nurgle demon army based on the idea of the ecosystems that form around rotting whale carcasses, use green stuff to give the great unclean ones rotting whale heads and swapping the hammer bell thing for a anchor, that kinda stuff. Maybe alter ripper swarms for a more nurgle vibe to get a sort of giant isopod look. Pox walkers and rot flys are kinda stumping me though in regards to what to portray them as.
I know it might not fit the "rotting whale carcass" aesthetic, but what about Cookie-Cutter Sharks? They are a small species of shark that live deep underwater, and have a habit of approaching larger fish and marine mammals, bitting off a large chunk of flesh from them with their sharp teeth and strong jaws, than swimming off before the larger animal has any idea what happened.
I mean, Isha isn't really relevant to Imperial perspective or a grand scale. She becomes relevant with the turn of the M42, or if you play space elves.
I always interpreted the chaos gods as hating each other as a base line, with each god having 1 other that they hate to a much greater extent. The threat of the Emperor cutting off their food supply is the only thing that ever United them long enough to unify and pay attention to the materium.
Nurgle will be the actual winner of the setting, he's the only thing that will survive the heat death of the universe and be the only thing left in existence.
@@luangomes2431 That might actually be Nurgels true purpose, outlive everyone else, take their death into himself and then killing himself and through his death restart the cirlce of life again. Just like a decaying corpse turns into soil for new life.
@@jacthing1 Heheheh, no, sometimes one of the many signs of Nurgle's favor is your body begins creating Nurglings out of your own flesh. That's where they all come from - but hey, you'll always have a friend.
I've heard that the only Gods Khorne has an even halfway decent relationship with is Gork and Mork. I remember hearing somewhere that the three will frequently set up wars for the three of them to enjoy.
Surprisingly enough khorne also has a particular appreciation for kharn and lotata. Not as in he sees them as useful weapons but unbeknownst to kharn khorne has a cute custom set up skull pile of skulls kharn sacrificed
DK's reaction to the nurgling was so horrified, and here I am thinking, "it is a boglin, and it is ADORABLE!" I love movies like Gremlins and Ghoulies, so of course I'd find nurglings cute.
DK was absolutely right about the quote of Entropy and Fabius Bile. In the trilogy of Bile books, the clonelord makes many speeches about entropy and fighting off decay. Just because it’s also applicable to Nurgle doesn’t mean he was wrong.
Beasts of nurgle act like giant dogs that accidentally kill their play things but they get depressed when they cant play with their new friend and when they get depressed enough they go into pools of acid and puss and turn into bloat flys which are perpetually depressed.
I'm gonna drop an _ackshually_ here. Khorne doesn't hate psykers, he hates _sorcery._ There's a difference between the two, psykers have the natural ability to channel the power of the Warp through their minds so he sees it as no different to making use of any other natural weapon. Sorcerers, on the other hand, he sees as stealing the power of the Immaterium and making it their own instead of using their own abilities. That's why Khornate psykers exist like the ones among the Blood Pact who make such wonderful toys as Wire Wolves.
I've always wondered about the "rebirth" and disease part of nurgle. Diseases are alive, and they are change. In that way, nurgle _is_ change. There is no "endpoint" to nurgle, it's all just really a "circle of rot", no? Were he a "pure" god of entropy, he'd just petrify people forever or something, right?
all Daemons are based on something of the mind, which entropy is certaintly not. I heard the theory that nurgle is not decay itself, but the FEAR intelligent beings feel of their downfall and death.
Well not really. Nurgle is all about following the cycle of rot and rebirth while Tzeentch wants to break that cycle. Instead of succumbing to disease and turning to sludge, Tzeentch would prefer your transform into a bird, then burn and and become living flame before becoming a formless mass of angry chewing gum. It makes no sense and that's just how Tzeentch likes it.
Surprised they didn't mention him rescuing Isha, arguably Nurgle's most surprising and epic moment... Ahhh, 40k, where the God of death, despair, decay, and entropy is a nicer guy than the *God of Hope*... truly, there is nothing quite like it.
@@mk_gamíng0609 yes and no. Reading it. I get the feeling it was a moment of compassion of a sorts, given what Slannesh did to the other Aeldari/Eldar/Space Elf gods and the fact that Nurgle does seem to care about most of his followers, but Nurgle being Nurgle, the only way he knows how to show that is by, well... testing out his plagues on her. Because being an anthropomorphic gestalt embodiment of rot, death, and entropic decay, he's all kinds of screwed up like that. It doesn't mean Nurgle is a good guy by any imagination. He's not. He's the nicest chaos God. But he's still... you know... a freaking chaos god... with all the issues that entails, since being the twisted embodiment of the darker reflections of mortal minds, he's sort of precluded from being one of the good guys. If that makes sense?
There's some sort of reason behind each Chaos God's number. During "A Thousand Sons", Magnus more or less intuitively realizes this, and points it out to Mortarion, who immediately rejects this idea, despite clearly using it. Slaanesh has the number 6 because it is a mathematically perfect number. Perfect numbers are a real thing, where their divisors sum to the number itself. In the case of 6, 3+2+1=6. Nurgle, from what I remember, has 7 because it is a prime number with lots of use in nature. For the same reason, Nurgle commonly has 3 sided stars used in symbology. I don't know the reasons behind Tzeentch and Khorne though. Tzeentch might be similar to Nurgle, in that it is a prime number, but it's squared. As for Khorne, no idea.
Should’ve talked about the Prisoner of the Emerald Cave in the Great Unclean One section. The most powerful Nurgle daemon and arguably the most powerful daemon in the setting besides Drach’nyen
Bro, the beginning of this episode felt like a total philosophical discussion and I was so down to hear that duality of Tzeetch (don't know if i wrote it right) and Nurgle and their concepts. Not just their troops
Khorne loves bloodshed, but not all bloodshed. If you take a guy and slowly torture him to death it will not feed Khorne. On the contrast, Khorne will hate that. Khorne wants as much bloodshed/death as fast as possible.
He also wants skulls. I'm fairly sure the original book about Chaos from the Rogue Trader era was explicit about Khorne being all about death. A fact which contrasted him with Slaanesh, who wanted to prolong suffering.
He is the god of conflict and violence. A conflict will not be solved violently until the other party has been slain. The aftermath isn't important, but the skull if the enemy is a marker of success.
A lot of the philosophy around Nurgle stems from how he - in a way - is the embodiment of the natural cycle of life. He creates disease and pestilences, lets them loose to claim lives, and people will die. But eventually, new life will be born, and the process will repeat. It also make a lot of sense in his use of viruses and diseases, because dying to those is viewed as a natural death. The jovial nature of his demons and underlings stems his desire and view that death should be accepted as the natural point that it is, and to live the rest of your life understanding this. By doing so, the fear and pain of loss goes away, because to you it becomes "a thing that happens to everyone, so why fight it to feverishly." It's best to live here and now as things are. (All hail Nurgle, chaos god of surfer bros.) When Brikky mentioned how a lot of Papa's followers are probably very depressed, it is likely because it is very hard to come to accept this, and in many cases, nature comes for you whether you wanted it or not. The death guard may be nigh-unkillable monstrosities, but they never asked to be a part of this. The pain you feel as a Nurglite comes from this refusal and resentment of the "truth," and the ones who revel in it are those who understand and abide it. As for Khorne and Nurgle, I don't think big red really cares. Tzeentch is very annoying because Psycher and manipulator, and Slaanesh is all about dragging the experience out for its own sake. But Nurgle would be fine either way if the death was instantaneous or drawn out, so long as the death happens. It wouldn't surprise me if the two had a neutral view of each other because of this. Also, Pops is waaay to lax to hold a grudge. Too much effort.
Aw, the Beasts of Nurgle are just big puppy dogs! They wanna play with everyone, and get sad when all the people they went to play with got squished by them…
35:36 You guys joke about Disney-Princess-Nurglings and shit, but you didn't even go over the fact that Nurgle's _literal_ trophy wife is not only a big-tittied Eldar waifu but is in fact *_the_* big-tittied Eldar waifu, Isha the Goddess of Life and Fertility, one of the few legitimately and purely _good_ entities in the Warhammer multiverse because she whispers the cures to all of her "husband's" diseases to _all_ races he infects! Seriously, if you guys ever get around to covering the gods of the Aeldari, I expect a _substantial_ discussion on how the reason one of them was saved from being eaten by Slaanesh is because she was saved by the _ultimate_ Ugly Bastard and is now stuck as the guinea pig that he tests *all* of his various plagues and blights on before sending them out into all of the universes that connect to the Warp.
Whenever I remember how the Death Guard isn't killed by all the disease, I think of that scene from the Simpsons where Mr. Burns has every disease but none if them affect him. You know, the "Three Stooges Syndrome" scene. Probably not how Nurgle works in lore but whatever.
While we discuss the sacred numbers.... Khorne back in the day before the Heresy: Yes! The World Eaters are perfect for me! What?! They aren't the 8th legion? *AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRGH!!!*
The Lord of Pestilence, Most Egregious Gift Giver, Grandfather Of The Blighted Hordes, King upon a throne of Pus and Boils, a Scientist amidst a Pantheon of War Crimes - Which his is most certainly the scariest.
A friend and I found this story in the DG codex; where a DG lord tells the tallyman to go down to the lower decks of the ship as their engine just got hit. But the Tallyman, instead of running straight down, he takes seven slow steps backwards and then starts running. We now always meme on the number 7 cropping up in games when my friend uses his DG/Nurgle Daemons
Being part of nurgles family is arguably one of the best possible factions for an individual (On terms of worldly outlook and fun with family eternally :3)
Can't believe they didn't talk about how beasts of nurgle have the personality of large friendly dogs, and if they get bummed out by all there new 'friends' going still and boring they pupate into the bitter and depressed rotflies.
Praise Nurgle! The bringer of love, peace, happiness and joy! Rejoice in Grandfather's endless love! Embrace his bountiful blessings! Nurgle is salvation! Nurgle is love! Nurgle is life!
The part with the flies made me think of “The Pain” from MGS:3 and then that made me think of all the ultramarines spinning their guns like ocelot to escape them.
So not related to this episode, but I wanted to share that "ahh! Bugs!" (Silent king towards tyranids) has become a common exclamation between my wife and I XD
Nurgle and Tzeentch don't get along over the cycle of life and death. Sure, the cycle implies change, that change is a set pattern. You knew what came before and you know what comes next. You give Nurgle a seed, he plants it in dirt, waters it, a tree sprouts, grows and dies. You give Tzeentch a seed, and he does something unpredictable with it, like feed it to someone, which causes them to vomit fully grown fruits
The chaos gods arent overly concerned with conquering the materium but their followers who were once part of the mortal empires often have grudges and thus are motivated to conquer it in the name of their new overlords.
You know what, a part of me feels relieved we didn't get to hear about the really **GREAT** great unclean one. Imagine if DK learns about the prisoner of the emerald cave, just thinking about it gives me chills
@@alphariusomegon3965 kind of late but imagine a giant great unclean one who is nigh invulnerable, can spawn armies at will and can morph part of it's body into other appendages. Its theorized that even an exterminatus wouldnt kill the thing
Papas in the house!!! Papas in the house!!! Papas in the house!!! Papas in the house!!! Papas in the house!!! Papas in the house!!! Papas in the house!!! Papas in the house!!! Papas in the house!!! Papas in the house!!! Papas in the house!!! Papas in the house!!! Papas in the house!!! Papas in the house!!! Papa Bless!!!
I think the best way to describe the Chaos Gods' relationships with each other is that they all hate each other for all the reasons DK asked about, there's just one other god they particularly hate more than the other two.
Nurgle is also the god of life and ferility, so nurgle gives his worshippers "gifts" in form of sickness that makes them slow and lethargic but also super resilient and with strong powers.
Wouldn't Slaanesh love nurgle? I figure the sheer disgust from looking and smelling nurgle's servants would be so overwhelming and she'll love it (cranking the senses up to 17 kind of thing)
eh, nurgle also eases the suffering of his worshippers and encourages apathy where slaanesh feeds off obsession. hard to feed off something's suffering if it doesnt care anymore
Nurgle: This is a thing called a present, the whole thing starts with a box! Nurglings: A box? Is it steel? Are there locks? Is it filled with a pox? A pox! How delightful, a poooooooox :D
So that specific Tally man with the skeletal face is named Philemon, he is the tally man for the Lords of Silence warband from the novel of the same name and he takes care of the Nurglings and tells the future through numerology. His warband’s ship participated in the 13th black crusade, attacking a forge world along side the Conqueror and other ships. They then attack Sabatine with a group of Word Bearers after Cadia fell.
The death guard might just already have died when they accepted nurgle which in turn had them become reborn in a sense and they are thus constantly stuck in that cycle of rot-death-decay- reborn?
Khorne hates nurgle like how you hate someone who consistently runs over his mailbox. While he hates the others like they burned his house down
Turns out Khorne hates
Accurate, very very accurate
Khornes hatred burns probably very differently depending what Nurgle does. He wants blood to spill and murder to happen, so if Nurgle lets those rot that murdered and bled and died before he probably doesnt care. But if he makes them numb and sluggish and cause them to slowly rot instead of fighting and murdering he is probably very dissapointed and gnashing his teeth.
I think Khorne is all about death by glorious, bloody combat, so I imagine he wouldn't find a bunch of bloated blobs of flesh a cash money move from Grandpa Nurgle
@@sparking023 What if the blobs are filled with blood? Like, a stupidly large amount of blood? And covered in spikes? Spikes that puncture their neighbor blobs and cause them to bleed? (I'm shitposting, but I guess if worshippers of Chaos undivided exist, there can be those who mix and match who they worship to an extent.)
My favorite bit of lore about nurgle is that Nurglings look like him so all the death guard call them "little kings" and use them like pets
That’s oddly wholesome.
Typically whenever a Little Lord gets hurt the members feliver them to the Tally man so that he can nurse them back to health. And they also put bad nurglings into Jars.
@@moondragon5573 I don't trust, or like, that last part
@@ardensediri80 How else would Slaanesh infiltrate Nurgle’s garden?
Awwww omg that's adorable
Tzeentch also hates nurgle because he's unpredictable. Tzeentch plans things and predicts fate, but nurgle defies fate by not moving, disease travels by near random chance, and so nurgles powers, motives, and overall might are nigh unpredictable, all while the fucker lays there and does nothing; in contrast to Tzeentch sweating bullets calculating every contingency.
I mean, yes and no
Nurgle is the unmovable object
Tzeentch is the unstoppable force
The two dont really cant really make sense of the other, lest make use of it, so of course they are enemies
@@gellasztomania1643 in palace of the plague Lord, that is the main stated reason they're enemies
You can't be predicted if you don't give a shit or bother making plans.
So Nurgle is the gross pussy diseased embodiment of the "He's just standing there... Menacingly!" meme XD
Not quite. Nurgle is INEVITABLE. It doesn't matter what you do, it doesn't matter what you scheme. Nurgle's love is DESTINY. His victory is GUARANTEED. Nurgle only acts because he wants to; he does not need to do anything, for his absolute domination over everything is a fact.
But the Grandfather is full of life! He wants to experience life! And so he works to bring forth his gifts to everyone! Boys, girls, xenos, everyone is loved by Nurgle!
If you know Nurgle, if you know his eternal love, then excitement for life is (almost) guaranteed! You will bloat with his endless love! You will be host to countless new friends!
Giving in and serving Nurgle doesn't remove his curse (the whole rotting to death and regrowing new shit while still alive shtick), it simply gives you the strength to be ok with it/takes the pain away.
"your legs are broken? Well now you can fly. Your legs are still broken but now you don't have to worry about it"
It doesn’t take the pain away despite what is spread around. He simply makes you too apathetic to it to care.
The blessing of Nurgle is not merely infection, but the acceptance of everything that is and will be.
@@Bluecho4 indeed grandpa nurgle has even blessed our world with the powers of CORONAAA
no it doesn't make the pain go away nor does it make you okay with it. in fact many of his followers DESPISE and REJECTED death, and embraced nurgle to throw off the shackles. many have refused death and gained immortality, like davey jones crewmen. if anything nurgle is the god of the persistant nature of life to strive through any suffering, and makes you immune to pain
Bricky: All Nurgle deamons are all happy.
Kul'Gath: *Sad gurgling noises*
I completely forgot that this boi exists
Theyre not really happy, more a gleeful apathy. Still prob the best existance out of all the dark gods servants
Also Epidemius. My mans just overworked af.
Welp, he will live on in Total War at least :)
Especially after he got attacked by a flying floodlight
Nurgle is your grandpa. Old and gross but spreading joy and praise.
Tzeentch is your older brother causing problems and getting you blamed for them.
Khorne is your pops after he's had a few too many whiskeys and becomes inherently violent and racist.
And Slaanesh is that uncle that we NEVER.... ever... ever.... speak about o.O
The nightman
I disagree: Khorne is not racist. He wants everyone to bleed equally.
@@shadowhunter0815 exactly! It's complete misanthropy.
Slaanesh's shopping history is made up of bad dragon products, barbed wire, salt, and a car battery with jumper cables
Tzeentch is a YOUNGER brother.
There was a story, some time after the fall of Cadia and during the invasion of Ultramar, wherein the emperor severed the Death Guards connection to the warp.(Also this had a small part to do with Mortarion ignoring Nurgle's call to return to the Warp to protect his domain from invasion). As soon as it happened, several members of the death guard went insane, screaming in pain and disgust of what became of them.
Part of the "issue" with being a nurgle follower, is the rot that effects your mind your in a constant fever dream, and your perception is warper. I mean. They literally spread disease and suffering to others. The thing they fell to nurgle to avoid.
You know you just gave me something to think about, is possible that the death guard is not entirely sure of following nurgle but with so much rotting in their minds all those emotions are suppress
Brain rot, my favorite
Would that be similar to other chaos worshipers and traitor legions?
If they were disconnected from the warp and their gods, would they understand what they had done? Would they repent or go mad?
@@adamr6621 Some may, but others, such as the World's Eaters, are so insane as it is, they probably wouldn't care
@@thelion2751 They're basically in a delirium 24/7. They're down with Nurgle, but only because they're not really in a fit mental state to be making important decisions. If they were, they might not be Nurgle followers.
Nurgle is, probably, the only deity in 40k, that is kind and loving to his followers. And his love is horrifying!
Nurgle is love. Nurgle is everything.
His love is a bit smelly
All hail grandpa nurgle
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Gork and Mork (or is it Mork and Gork?) Probably love watching the boyz getting into it.
" Nurgle does not care about your THICCNESS
As long as you are down with the sickness."
Anon.
Nurgle: You smell that?
Gaurdsman: ...No?
Nurgle: Me neither. Start rotting.
IIRC the numbers associated with each Chaos God reflect their magical affinity. Magnus gave some speech about numerology and how it reflects in psyker powers so assumedly certain numbers are more conducive to certain powers
Slaanesh's sacred number is 69420
@@randombencounter263 more like 621
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@@kylzepolaczkowaty2197 Combine Slaanesh and Tzeehch together for utter tomfuckery (69)
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@@lucasbeck1391 is this metamorphosis ?
The most intimidating part about fighting any nurgle army (in the lore, not tabletop) as anything other than a space-marine is seldom talked about: even if everything goes great and you win, you will likely spend the rest of your, probably quite short, life as a disease-ridden wreck who has to be isolated from others.
The Inquisition may have something to say about that
Well, considering who you play against in real life on tabletop, you may still have to worry about catching something, so the table top can match the lore.
imagine thinking that you get to live a life after being corrupted by chaos
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The most BLESSED thing! Where before you were a miserable guardsman leading a pointless life, you now are blessed by Grandfather! How is that now the most glorious reward? How is that not the most joyous of fates?
Not short lol
nurgle being a god of stagnation and not doing anything makes the death guard very interesting, one of the most active chaos factions fucking up the materium are the ones who worship the embodiment of sleeping in until 4pm
I'm sad that none of the fun story shit with Nurgle was discussed. No talking about Isha, no talking about beasts of Nurgle being dumb puppy slugs that eventually develop clinical depression and turn into rot flies but Nurgle finds them a friend so they don't have to be lonely, no talking about the stories of great unclean ones. Like how one is trying to atone for the sin of being a nurgling who drank the entirety of Nurgle's current brew while Nurgle just finds the whole thing adorable and isn't actually mad about it.
Right
Big sad
Nurgle doesn't change the same way Tzeentch does. Nurgle represents a stable cycle; life, death, rebirth. Same starting point, same outcome every time. Tzeentch is all about radical change. He'd toss out random mutations or light you on fire because you'd be changed from what you were nine seconds ago. Whether you end up a chaos spawn or a burn victim doesn't really matter to him so long as things keep happening.
Are you telling me Tzeench is all about *la revolución???*
Ye, Tzeentch is deviation from cycles.
@@sparking023 Essentially. Tzeentch is every freedom fighter ever born and every anarchist that has ever murdered children in the name of overthrowing the government; Nurgle is every disease and plague, and also every place of stability and comfort. Khorne is every fight for truth and justice, and every bloody massacre. Slaanesh is every physical pleasure - for better and for worse - you have ever felt. The sense is that the cosmos is supposed to be incomplete and unstable without them, in a sense.
I would argue that Nurgle is about stagnation. Less the cycle moving as intended, and more it reaching the lowest point - following the path of least resistance - and then languishing there. A stagnant pond, playing host to foul-smelling algae and a spawning ground for insects and parasites. Getting to that point is what matters to Nurgle, not whether it advances beyond it.
Tzeentch, meanwhile, is all about that change. Of moving from one stage to another. In many ways they are both opposites and two sides of the same coin. Nurgle trends things towards the nadir, Tzeentch forces them back up and around.
Can someone back me up here, I could have sworn of the chaos gods, the strongest rivalries were between Khorne and Tzeentch, and then Nurgle and Slaanesh. I must have heard this in one of the old codexes, but it makes sense with Khone's particular disdain for psykers and trickery. And Slaanesh, who epitomizes perfection and sensation, conflicts with Nurgle and his acceptance of age, decay, and stagnation. This could be just some Mandela effect shit on my part, but I can't be the only one who thinks Bricky is missing something here with the Chaos gods and their rivalries.
"Disney Nurgle army"
Already done: "Anastasia", 90s movie that rivaled Disney movies of that time. "In the Dark of the Night" so much nurgleness! XD
Big Papa Nurgle energy
I fucking love that movie
Rasputin strikes me more as a Vampire Counts character from Warhammer Fantasy, rather than Nurgle. He's dead, but not really in a "we all rot together" way. He's more Necromancer than plague-bearer. Plus, he uses bats.
Hey technically she's a Disney princess now but that movie is actually a Fox movie and she's not (well wasn't) a DISNEY princess until Fox sold.
@yossarian "she"
I can't believe that Bricky didn't talk about Papa Nurgle's Eldar God wife that he keeps in a jar.
That sounds horrible, i demand more!
@@SamueL-td7fb they have a loving and open relationship lol, he creates disease, she creates a cure, and the couple help the universe run.
Why do I now want a parody of “we all lift together” from war frame but with a Nurgel “we all rot together”
The most horrific thing about Nurgle is the Great Clean Ones
aka Slaanesh Greater Daemon of Gluttony
Those are just neckbeards that had their hair buzzed off after being cleaned with a firehose.
Suds for the Suds God
I too have seen the kitbashes of great clean ones..... (Shudders violently)
@@xanmontes8715 Slaanesh has a mortal chaumpion of gluttony in Age of Sigmar called Gluttos Oscolion.
I hope they talk about Slannesh next because Slannesh has the best potential to be used as a horror story
It depends on how much UA-cam allows them to talk about the one that sucks
They got the patreon to cover it if it gets to "sucky". If they're willing to do the Daemon kielbasa, I think Slannesh will be fine.
Tseench could be a murder mystery, but the investigator is the murderer
@@colinrawls2285 Just as planned
Super-space heroin and raging erections, that’s something I can get behind, or it would likely get behind me.
The Death Guard comes from the planet Barbarus. A medieval farming-culture planet shrouded in fog like Silent Hill, but the fog is poisonous, so everyone needs rebreathers to go outside. There are giant, skinny humanoid monsters in the fog (Pale Kings), with bad eyesight. They'll rip off your roof and eat your family Attack On Titan style. Because of the "Marrowrot" people don't live very long (someone over 30 is described as ancient), and for the kids to survive they need to know when to sow and harvest etc. This is taught to them in a limerick with 3 and 7 being very important numbers, and so they'll often obsessively repeat these limericks to themselves to remember. Over time these have become culturally important numbers. Mortarion the Primarch has 3 bodyguards (Deathshroud) that always walk 7 paces behind him etc.
On a sidenote, Nurgle is obsessed with enumerating EVERY disease in existence. How many types of common cold are there? There are daemons whose whole life consists of cataloguing this.
If you haven't read it already, the leader of the Death Guard warband, The Lords of Silence, named Siegemaster Vorx, is seen constantly counting to the number seven on the Lords of Silence book.
@@Jormyyy I've read it. It's also Vorx as a child that keeps repeating the limerick in the short story Unification. If you like the Lords of Silence you can also read about Dragan's origin in the short story Endurance, all of them written by Chris Wraight. Hey, that's 3 DG stories by the same author! Coincidence? Vorx would say not.
@@LordKingKamiGuru Thank you for this info!
Interested in these Pale Kings.
@@cavenoises3891 Ironically, that became Mortarius' nickname after his turning to daemonhood.
During the Siege of Terra, Death Guard Astartes Have a conversation about how they don’t really worry or care about anything anymore. They don’t hate the loyalists, they just fight because it’s something fun to do.
Tzeentch and Nurgle represent polar opposites of the concept of change. One is change through a constant cycle. The other is changed through circumvention of the cycle. Much like how khorne and Slaanesh are polar opposites of death one through quick bloody battle and the other through slow torment.
In other words, accepting whatever change happens vs. being the agent of change.
@@MPHJackson7 both are accepting of change, its mostly just the degree of agency within the change they take.
Tzeentch is an active change, agent of change fits, he has plots that might be foiled (or that might just be part of the larger plot). Nergal is a passive change, slow but certain you can't really stop rot or entropy no matter how hard.
Both seek to cause change but Nergal lets all things change in their own time.
@@Its-Just-Zip well that's what I meant, said better
One is contentment within the constantly birthing-feeding-dying cycle of life... the other is an angry bird.
Introduce DK to the Sisters of Nurgle.
Also, it's fitting for a guy called _DK_ to be a worshipper of the God of *_Decay._*
Take my like and leave
It's finally here
And about time too
Here some more strangely wholesome facts about Nurgle:
Once a bunch of orks discovered an ancient shrine dedicated to Nurgle, however they misstook it for Gork (or prehaps Mork) and started "worshiping" it. Once Nurgle took notice of it he actually did not mind at all that their worship was not ment to be directed at him and he just apreciated it for what it was. So he just blessed them with his "gifts" again not to be mean but because this is his way of showing his love and ordered a bunch of his daemons to assist those orks with their wars whenever they needed help.
Also, Nurgle in contrast to other Chaos Gods he barely creates new daemons (atleast in comparison) . Instead he pretty much turns the souls of his deceased followers into new daemons. Meaning that he is one of the few deities in 40K that actually offers any kind of rewarding afterlife to his followers
Yep im sold joining nurgle
Lord of stagnation after all, why would you want anything new when the old is fine.
Nurglings and Great Unclean Ones are daemons made from scratch, but the Plaguebearers are indeed made from the souls of mortals.
Fair enough. If I had to choose (and there’s not another afterlife by following good ol Emprah) a Chaos God to follow I guess it would be him. An afterlife is better than getting my soul rended in the Warp unprotected, js
I want to have words with Shy putting a picture of Cleveland up when Bricky says everything decays. We aren't Pittsburg.
It’s still tremendously funny.
I'm disappointed she didn't put up a pic of Chicago when bricky said everything rusts.
At least you're not Detroit!
Im from dayton and we dont even go up to that shit hole of a place. Your only solace is that your not Detroit and that your entire economy is based off of lebron james
@@yuyoshi1602 That "your entire economy is based off Lebron James" joke stopped being true in 2012.
Nurgle is a cycle, while Tzneetch is breaking the cycle or breaking free from it.
Nurgle is the opposition to change, thus he seeks the state that is most stagnant. Tzneetch is change for its own sake, not to any real purpose. About the only reason he has some kind of plan is because intrigue is part of his sphere too. So he has to screw up everybody else's fun or else he isn't doing his job.
From what I've gathered from these episodes,
Bricky = Imperial guardsmen/ Battle nun lover tainted by tzeentch and given too much access to the black library.
DK = Thousand Son Nurgle convert enjoying being an absolute empty mind pepsi can a little too much.
Shy = Ork warboss gifted with Khorne's axe of friendly fire via shitposting.
now we just need a fourth and we would have the whole set.
That is incredibly accurate and the imperium has seen your analysis and reccomends you undergo training as an acolyte under an Inquisitor
Nah Bricky is one of us Night Lord bois now, dont forget
@@deadcheckofficial1815
Bricky: Night Lord that loves Imperial Guardsman and Sisters of Battle tainted by Tzeentcg that read too much from the Black Library
whenever DK or Bricky say something that's outright wrong/dumb, i picture Shy with her head in her hands
I am quite curious how Nurgle is the "nicest" of the chaos gods especially what happen to Mortarian
Because he “takes pain away” from the pestilence either he or his demons would inflict on someone, if that individual decides to worship him.
he's the only chaos god that is actually happy about his follower's deeds. Like a cheery old grandfather listening to the exploits of his grandchildren and giving them "blessings" in the only way he knows how: making the horrific mutations and plagues either painless, or inexplicably beneficial to their host rather than lethal like they are to people who don't follow nurgle.
@@burnin8able yeah his worshipers tend to be the happiest of all the gods and tend to be the most sane dudes from what I saw
Khorne sees his followers as disposable weapons.
Tzeentch sees his followers as useful idiots.
Slanesh sees her followers as breakable toys.
By comparison, Nurgle taking the pain away is a blessing
Mainly in the fact if you fail any other god in 40k they obliterate your soul (if you're lucky) with nurgle he just puts you in time out for a few hundred years and then sends you on your way with a pat on the back and a "good luck out there, sport"
The Nurglings: "Hi-Ho, Hi-Ho, to cause decay we go~ Gonna stain geneseed with all disease, hi-ho, hi-ho here we goooooo"
I hate that im picturing them with pickaxes now
All i can think of is Jack Frost’s “Hee-Ho!”
I don't really have the money or experience to act on it but I really kinda want to make a VERY customized nurgle demon army based on the idea of the ecosystems that form around rotting whale carcasses, use green stuff to give the great unclean ones rotting whale heads and swapping the hammer bell thing for a anchor, that kinda stuff. Maybe alter ripper swarms for a more nurgle vibe to get a sort of giant isopod look. Pox walkers and rot flys are kinda stumping me though in regards to what to portray them as.
Maybe for pox walkers you could give them a crab vibe?
What about turning the rot flys into a jellyfish or into any type of (aquatic) bug larva or adult (water crockroachs, dragonfly larva, etc)
Pox walkers could be drowned sailors.
I know it might not fit the "rotting whale carcass" aesthetic, but what about Cookie-Cutter Sharks? They are a small species of shark that live deep underwater, and have a habit of approaching larger fish and marine mammals, bitting off a large chunk of flesh from them with their sharp teeth and strong jaws, than swimming off before the larger animal has any idea what happened.
A full nurgle episode without one single mention of isha. You’re slipping up big time bricky
I mean, Isha isn't really relevant to Imperial perspective or a grand scale. She becomes relevant with the turn of the M42, or if you play space elves.
I hope one day we get a Vectorium dedicate to Isha, like some kind of honor Guard.
I can't remove from my mind the idea that poor Isha is locked away in Nurgle's jar
Maybe they're saving her for an episode on the Eldar Pantheon?
No Isha in a jar for you
I always interpreted the chaos gods as hating each other as a base line, with each god having 1 other that they hate to a much greater extent.
The threat of the Emperor cutting off their food supply is the only thing that ever United them long enough to unify and pay attention to the materium.
Nurgle will be the actual winner of the setting, he's the only thing that will survive the heat death of the universe and be the only thing left in existence.
A fanfic about nurgle being the last being in the universe and is trying to bring back life in the universe would be very cool
@@luangomes2431 That might actually be Nurgels true purpose, outlive everyone else, take their death into himself and then killing himself and through his death restart the cirlce of life again. Just like a decaying corpse turns into soil for new life.
"When you pray for sick people, that feeds Nurgle." "Wow no wonder he's so fat!" ....wait you forgot to tell DK where Nurglings COME FROM!
I can only guess children?
Plz god no noooooooooo
Please say tears and not the other fluids
Do they come from greater demons? Or is it just that they like to play around and go in and out of the gaping wounds of the great unclean ones?
@@jacthing1 Heheheh, no, sometimes one of the many signs of Nurgle's favor is your body begins creating Nurglings out of your own flesh. That's where they all come from - but hey, you'll always have a friend.
I've heard that the only Gods Khorne has an even halfway decent relationship with is Gork and Mork. I remember hearing somewhere that the three will frequently set up wars for the three of them to enjoy.
Surprisingly enough khorne also has a particular appreciation for kharn and lotata. Not as in he sees them as useful weapons but unbeknownst to kharn khorne has a cute custom set up skull pile of skulls kharn sacrificed
Khorne also like Khaine
@@bluestormpony they work out at the gym together
DK: "how do you even fight that?"
Kriegsman: "Hans get ze Flammenwerfer!"
Hans: *excited gasmasknoises*
Ze flammenwerffer! IT WERFES FLAMMEN!
Khorne: Florida/Texas
Slaneesh: Nevada/ California
Nurgle: Michigan/ New Jersey
Tzentch: Ohio
The accuracy of this statement is easy to confirm because I am Californian.
For slannesh just throw the west coast states for that tbh we're all essentially the same
Malal/Malice: Wisconsin. Our cows are black and white.... And nobody ever remembers us.
So... which Chaos God the Florida Man worship?
@@fabulousimcatbulous690 good question, and probably the Emperor.
DK's reaction to the nurgling was so horrified, and here I am thinking, "it is a boglin, and it is ADORABLE!"
I love movies like Gremlins and Ghoulies, so of course I'd find nurglings cute.
Ku'gath's greatest secret: "I don't like anybody"
Ku"gath's other greatest secret: "I REALLY don't like anybody"
Yo, Tattleslug is low key one of the best Nurgle characters. Love that joke.
Yes tattleslug!!!
DK was absolutely right about the quote of Entropy and Fabius Bile. In the trilogy of Bile books, the clonelord makes many speeches about entropy and fighting off decay. Just because it’s also applicable to Nurgle doesn’t mean he was wrong.
Beasts of nurgle act like giant dogs that accidentally kill their play things but they get depressed when they cant play with their new friend and when they get depressed enough they go into pools of acid and puss and turn into bloat flys which are perpetually depressed.
I'm gonna drop an _ackshually_ here. Khorne doesn't hate psykers, he hates _sorcery._ There's a difference between the two, psykers have the natural ability to channel the power of the Warp through their minds so he sees it as no different to making use of any other natural weapon. Sorcerers, on the other hand, he sees as stealing the power of the Immaterium and making it their own instead of using their own abilities. That's why Khornate psykers exist like the ones among the Blood Pact who make such wonderful toys as Wire Wolves.
I've always wondered about the "rebirth" and disease part of nurgle. Diseases are alive, and they are change. In that way, nurgle _is_ change. There is no "endpoint" to nurgle, it's all just really a "circle of rot", no?
Were he a "pure" god of entropy, he'd just petrify people forever or something, right?
A real Theseus' Rot or Theseus' Stew conundrum
all Daemons are based on something of the mind, which entropy is certaintly not. I heard the theory that nurgle is not decay itself, but the FEAR intelligent beings feel of their downfall and death.
Well not really. Nurgle is all about following the cycle of rot and rebirth while Tzeentch wants to break that cycle. Instead of succumbing to disease and turning to sludge, Tzeentch would prefer your transform into a bird, then burn and and become living flame before becoming a formless mass of angry chewing gum. It makes no sense and that's just how Tzeentch likes it.
The more things change, the more they stay the same.
Pure entropy would be frozen, inert subatomic particles and heat death of the universe.
Nurgle plays a green black deck.
Surprised they didn't mention him rescuing Isha, arguably Nurgle's most surprising and epic moment...
Ahhh, 40k, where the God of death, despair, decay, and entropy is a nicer guy than the *God of Hope*... truly, there is nothing quite like it.
Not really
Nurgle saved her TO test his new diseases and ailments on her.
She was not really "Saved"
@@mk_gamíng0609 yes and no. Reading it. I get the feeling it was a moment of compassion of a sorts, given what Slannesh did to the other Aeldari/Eldar/Space Elf gods and the fact that Nurgle does seem to care about most of his followers, but Nurgle being Nurgle, the only way he knows how to show that is by, well... testing out his plagues on her. Because being an anthropomorphic gestalt embodiment of rot, death, and entropic decay, he's all kinds of screwed up like that.
It doesn't mean Nurgle is a good guy by any imagination. He's not. He's the nicest chaos God. But he's still... you know... a freaking chaos god... with all the issues that entails, since being the twisted embodiment of the darker reflections of mortal minds, he's sort of precluded from being one of the good guys. If that makes sense?
There's some sort of reason behind each Chaos God's number. During "A Thousand Sons", Magnus more or less intuitively realizes this, and points it out to Mortarion, who immediately rejects this idea, despite clearly using it.
Slaanesh has the number 6 because it is a mathematically perfect number. Perfect numbers are a real thing, where their divisors sum to the number itself. In the case of 6, 3+2+1=6.
Nurgle, from what I remember, has 7 because it is a prime number with lots of use in nature. For the same reason, Nurgle commonly has 3 sided stars used in symbology.
I don't know the reasons behind Tzeentch and Khorne though. Tzeentch might be similar to Nurgle, in that it is a prime number, but it's squared. As for Khorne, no idea.
Should’ve talked about the Prisoner of the Emerald Cave in the Great Unclean One section. The most powerful Nurgle daemon and arguably the most powerful daemon in the setting besides Drach’nyen
Have you seen the comic about the two death guards comforting their brother because he went to the doctor and his charts came back all negative.
I need to see this
DK´s cry of horror at the sight of the nurgling was priceless.
Bro, the beginning of this episode felt like a total philosophical discussion and I was so down to hear that duality of Tzeetch (don't know if i wrote it right) and Nurgle and their concepts. Not just their troops
I don't think KHORNE cares about death, just bloodshed.
If someone somewhere is making someone else bleed he's happy.
Khorne loves bloodshed, but not all bloodshed. If you take a guy and slowly torture him to death it will not feed Khorne. On the contrast, Khorne will hate that. Khorne wants as much bloodshed/death as fast as possible.
khorne wants to kill 40 men in 2 seconds while slaneesh wants 2 men tortured for 40 Years
He also wants skulls.
I'm fairly sure the original book about Chaos from the Rogue Trader era was explicit about Khorne being all about death. A fact which contrasted him with Slaanesh, who wanted to prolong suffering.
He is the god of conflict and violence. A conflict will not be solved violently until the other party has been slain.
The aftermath isn't important, but the skull if the enemy is a marker of success.
@@gusta677 khorne does not care we’re the blood flows only that it flows, skulls on the other hand….
A lot of the philosophy around Nurgle stems from how he - in a way - is the embodiment of the natural cycle of life. He creates disease and pestilences, lets them loose to claim lives, and people will die. But eventually, new life will be born, and the process will repeat. It also make a lot of sense in his use of viruses and diseases, because dying to those is viewed as a natural death. The jovial nature of his demons and underlings stems his desire and view that death should be accepted as the natural point that it is, and to live the rest of your life understanding this. By doing so, the fear and pain of loss goes away, because to you it becomes "a thing that happens to everyone, so why fight it to feverishly." It's best to live here and now as things are. (All hail Nurgle, chaos god of surfer bros.)
When Brikky mentioned how a lot of Papa's followers are probably very depressed, it is likely because it is very hard to come to accept this, and in many cases, nature comes for you whether you wanted it or not. The death guard may be nigh-unkillable monstrosities, but they never asked to be a part of this. The pain you feel as a Nurglite comes from this refusal and resentment of the "truth," and the ones who revel in it are those who understand and abide it.
As for Khorne and Nurgle, I don't think big red really cares. Tzeentch is very annoying because Psycher and manipulator, and Slaanesh is all about dragging the experience out for its own sake. But Nurgle would be fine either way if the death was instantaneous or drawn out, so long as the death happens. It wouldn't surprise me if the two had a neutral view of each other because of this. Also, Pops is waaay to lax to hold a grudge. Too much effort.
I love how one day after this gets released, the total war Warhammer 3 nurgle reveal is made
Aw, the Beasts of Nurgle are just big puppy dogs! They wanna play with everyone, and get sad when all the people they went to play with got squished by them…
Do the great unclean ones play with the beasts? Their big enough to treat them like guinnea pigs or dogs
"Feel the touch of Necrosis and rejoice! Nurgle loves you!"
35:36 You guys joke about Disney-Princess-Nurglings and shit, but you didn't even go over the fact that Nurgle's _literal_ trophy wife is not only a big-tittied Eldar waifu but is in fact *_the_* big-tittied Eldar waifu, Isha the Goddess of Life and Fertility, one of the few legitimately and purely _good_ entities in the Warhammer multiverse because she whispers the cures to all of her "husband's" diseases to _all_ races he infects!
Seriously, if you guys ever get around to covering the gods of the Aeldari, I expect a _substantial_ discussion on how the reason one of them was saved from being eaten by Slaanesh is because she was saved by the _ultimate_ Ugly Bastard and is now stuck as the guinea pig that he tests *all* of his various plagues and blights on before sending them out into all of the universes that connect to the Warp.
Whenever I remember how the Death Guard isn't killed by all the disease, I think of that scene from the Simpsons where Mr. Burns has every disease but none if them affect him. You know, the "Three Stooges Syndrome" scene.
Probably not how Nurgle works in lore but whatever.
Indestructible...
While we discuss the sacred numbers....
Khorne back in the day before the Heresy: Yes! The World Eaters are perfect for me! What?! They aren't the 8th legion? *AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRGH!!!*
The Lord of Pestilence, Most Egregious Gift Giver, Grandfather Of The Blighted Hordes, King upon a throne of Pus and Boils, a Scientist amidst a Pantheon of War Crimes - Which his is most certainly the scariest.
"Eww they're disgusting!"
Death guard players: Aww thank you 🥰
A friend and I found this story in the DG codex; where a DG lord tells the tallyman to go down to the lower decks of the ship as their engine just got hit. But the Tallyman, instead of running straight down, he takes seven slow steps backwards and then starts running. We now always meme on the number 7 cropping up in games when my friend uses his DG/Nurgle Daemons
Being part of nurgles family is arguably one of the best possible factions for an individual
(On terms of worldly outlook and fun with family eternally :3)
Can't believe they didn't talk about how beasts of nurgle have the personality of large friendly dogs, and if they get bummed out by all there new 'friends' going still and boring they pupate into the bitter and depressed rotflies.
Nurgle is basically the embodiment of the "This is Fine" meme.
Everything is fucked, but you're okay with it.
beasts of nurgle are one of the most wholesome and saddest thing in the 40k universe, they just want to play and be loved
Praise Nurgle! The bringer of love, peace, happiness and joy! Rejoice in Grandfather's endless love! Embrace his bountiful blessings! Nurgle is salvation! Nurgle is love! Nurgle is life!
That slot machine bit with the God of “Change” really did it for me.
DK freaking out over nurgle makes my day. Embrace grandfather's love DK. He loves you...
I love Nurgle, their minis are literally the sickest in the game.
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Shy is undisputed champion of slaanesh.
I object by the amount of trolling she does she is clearly tzeench
@@luangomes2431 The new champion of chaos undivided.
@@luangomes2431 Emperor's Children are the biggest trolls in chaos and they are for slaanesh.
These episodes need to be longer, love it all
Nurgle helps the diseased and the dying by giving them peace, to the extreme, about it. Nurgle doesn't heal you: He makes you not give a fuck.
That episode comes out the day I start my job at a morgue, what a timing
The part with the flies made me think of “The Pain” from MGS:3 and then that made me think of all the ultramarines spinning their guns like ocelot to escape them.
DK: "Chaos models are so cool"
*sees nurgle demons*
DK: "EWWWWWWWWW"
EEEWWWW BUT THEY'RE COOL-DK
So not related to this episode, but I wanted to share that "ahh! Bugs!" (Silent king towards tyranids) has become a common exclamation between my wife and I XD
Nurgle and Tzeentch don't get along over the cycle of life and death. Sure, the cycle implies change, that change is a set pattern. You knew what came before and you know what comes next.
You give Nurgle a seed, he plants it in dirt, waters it, a tree sprouts, grows and dies.
You give Tzeentch a seed, and he does something unpredictable with it, like feed it to someone, which causes them to vomit fully grown fruits
"Prayers for the dying feed nurgle"
So when everyone prays for the emperor, does that feed nurgle? Does nurgle allow him to go on?
The chaos gods arent overly concerned with conquering the materium but their followers who were once part of the mortal empires often have grudges and thus are motivated to conquer it in the name of their new overlords.
You know what, a part of me feels relieved we didn't get to hear about the really **GREAT** great unclean one.
Imagine if DK learns about the prisoner of the emerald cave, just thinking about it gives me chills
Excuse me my good fuck they WHAT it get worse
@@alphariusomegon3965 Yeah... YEAH THIS THING IS REAL ALRIGHT
hell they could probably make a whole video just for it
@@takebacktheholyland9306 im scared to even look it up
@@alphariusomegon3965 kind of late but imagine a giant great unclean one who is nigh invulnerable, can spawn armies at will and can morph part of it's body into other appendages. Its theorized that even an exterminatus wouldnt kill the thing
@@mattvoll9094 how hasn't burgled taken over this thing sounds like his win token
Oppenheimer when his weapon designed to specifically kill millions kills millions
Brick: That's so much worse
Me: That's so much work
Papas in the house!!! Papas in the house!!! Papas in the house!!! Papas in the house!!! Papas in the house!!! Papas in the house!!! Papas in the house!!! Papas in the house!!! Papas in the house!!! Papas in the house!!! Papas in the house!!! Papas in the house!!! Papas in the house!!! Papas in the house!!!
Papa Bless!!!
Gives us dat rot daddy!
I'm a new fan of Warhammer and I love nurgle he so neat oh and Orks
If you like nurgle and orks look at skaven from age of sigmar there a weird combination of both its great.
14:01 I can't think of anything other than...I'm at a loss.
Got sick after an all nighter party, been in bed for a couple days now. Praise be our Grandfather of Plague I suppose.
I think the best way to describe the Chaos Gods' relationships with each other is that they all hate each other for all the reasons DK asked about, there's just one other god they particularly hate more than the other two.
Nurgle is also the god of life and ferility, so nurgle gives his worshippers "gifts" in form of sickness that makes them slow and lethargic but also super resilient and with strong powers.
Ferility? Did you mean fertility or virility?
You have blessed us with Papa Nurgle today, Thank you!
Whelp, if you lose the fight and blood is everywhere, that worships Khorne, because the blood must flow.
"We all rot together" ~ The Warhammer / Warframe crossover nobody saw coming!
Wouldn't Slaanesh love nurgle? I figure the sheer disgust from looking and smelling nurgle's servants would be so overwhelming and she'll love it (cranking the senses up to 17 kind of thing)
eh, nurgle also eases the suffering of his worshippers and encourages apathy where slaanesh feeds off obsession. hard to feed off something's suffering if it doesnt care anymore
I was having a very bad day and then I saw Grandfather Nurgle and I am now content with life.
Nurgle: This is a thing called a present, the whole thing starts with a box!
Nurglings: A box?
Is it steel? Are there locks? Is it filled with a pox? A pox! How delightful, a poooooooox :D
The fact that the "DecayDiamantes" pun passed unnoticed is truly terrifying
Everyone else: "Where's Isha?"
Me, a smoothbrain: Sloppity Bilepiper?
So that specific Tally man with the skeletal face is named Philemon, he is the tally man for the Lords of Silence warband from the novel of the same name and he takes care of the Nurglings and tells the future through numerology. His warband’s ship participated in the 13th black crusade, attacking a forge world along side the Conqueror and other ships. They then attack Sabatine with a group of Word Bearers after Cadia fell.
The death guard might just already have died when they accepted nurgle which in turn had them become reborn in a sense and they are thus constantly stuck in that cycle of rot-death-decay- reborn?
Deathstrike missles have tried to take down my great unclean one
Even vortex ones
But they have failed to kill papa Gahkor'throk