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@@TwoBrosRCI'm torn between this and the rafale 64mm, this will be my 2nd jet after the 50mm habu. I just got into the hobby but I push my planes really hard. I really like the way the rafale high alphas, and looks much better imo. I like the flaps and handling on the futura so I'm torn. Any input?
Normally made up looking planes like this aren't my thing. I got it just for fun n games, but man, what a blast this thing is to fly!! I too fly it with the battery the back strap. And I got my buddy whose never flow edfs to fly this one and he loved it so much he bought himself one! What an awesome little plane!
It´s indeed a great jet. I mainly fly her on 4S 2200 35C with 180g. Since I don´t fly hard, I´m flying always around 3:30 - 3:45 and having 3,7-3,75 V/cell and she flies great too. On 5S 2200 CNHL she flies around 3:00 with excessive thrust, but pretty more amps so the capacity is pretty sucked out :P ending around 3,65V. After around 10 flights I had my first edf stall and repaired her. She doesnt looks great but flies as before :) . The other day I had a stall on landing approach beeing almost able to recover her a couple of times but the colleagues told me just to land on the bushes. And she just lost a small already glued piece on the air intake foam. I tested her on the ground, took off and did my landing properly. That was the only way to go home satisfied :D xD
Watched your video after ordering mine two weeks ago 😉 Delivery to Europe takes some time, so still waiting ... It's going to be my 2nd EDF after getting some hours in on an Arrows Avanti. Hope I keep it one piece for a while 😎 Thanks for the thourough review & useful tips !
Nice review of what looks like the next plane in my Hanger. Thanks for the tips on CG also . I have just purchased the 64 MM Rafale and after 20 + flights on it I am really loving it and looking for a Sport Jet to compliment it in the 64 MM 4 S range. This one looks like a Winner and should fly well with the 2600 MAH 4 S batteries I have been buying lately. Thanks again
Great video 2Bros! I absolutely love this 64mm, best of its class! Plenty of power and does everything I want! It is a daily flyer for sure!! I have 26 flights so far on this Jet and only have a few wing scrapes that was easily covered up and protected with electrical tape(thanks for the tip). I am a little worries when spare parts will be available, knowing that ever one of these has a ticket with the ground and will need a replacement at some point, Please FMS stock spare parts for this jet that you will have in your lineup for the next 10 years+!
It's so weird that they have spare parts for literally everything *but* the fuselage and wings. At this point it's almost comical. We're hoping they get this fixed soon for everyone's sake.
Nice review Jon, really looks like a great 64mm. Mishaps can happen when you fly on the edge. Bummer about the spares, I guess it's happening a little bit of everywhere. I know that Arrows Marlin is ugly (with the current decals) but would love to see a comparison video. AirHammer out!!
Would love to hear your comparison of the 64mm Futura vs the 64mm Arrows Marlin. Even though the Marlin has chicken wire Landing gear. Thanks Jon, a most excellent review, as usual.
I would like to see that video myself, always wanted to get the Marlin, never did, but now there's this Futura. I'd have to bet the Marlin can be flown a little slower (if desired).
I have never had an rc plane before i really want the FMS futura. But my parents don't really have money but i will get it on my birthday soon on december im so hyped:D
My 64mm Banshee is very similar. I like to see a comparison between the 2. Mine is equipped with suspension landing gear and I increase the wheel diameter for flying off grass. And I have reverse thrust too. Might pick one of these up sometime and see who’s the real king of The 64mm EDFs.
Both Jets are very Similar except It looks like the Avanta 64mm drops a wing a little quicker then the Banshee . But C.G and airspeed play a big part in that as you obviously know. I'll grab one next Spring , flying season is slowing 🐌 down on the East Coast. Time to pull out the Bush planes soon.
You should look at the freewing 6s 64mm system. I put one in my FMS f-15 and that thing will blow my viper 70 away. I use SMC 2400 6s packs. I think I'm going to grab a futura and toss the 6s in it
I’m asking for the pros opinion on this one. Would you guys recommend this jet as a first plane for someone looking to get into the rc community based off of assembly performance and longevity as well as complexity
It's definitely not a first jet. The wing loading is way too high. As you saw with Ciaran's crash and Jon's crash, getting into a stall can be very difficult to recover from even on batteries weighing close to the recommended size. This is more of a jet you'd fly when you've gotten some experience with RC jets in general.
Great video Jon, love my Futura 64mm! What is the CG in mm that do you use? Your battery probably weighs less than mine so I just want to make sure. Thanks!
About to pull the trigger on this one. Do you think if ESC is upgraded to 60A, it can handle 5S? I fly mostly scale (55% throttle) but like to do 1 or 2 passes at full throttle. Will 5S be a problem in those short passes?
I made a mistake and bought the Eflight 1.2m T-28 Trojan at the end of it production run, flew at maiden. Crashed due to pilot error and now all parts are discontinued. It will become office ceiling art… Decommissioned 😢
Why doesn’t the Rafale 64 mm have some suspension like this futura the Rafale is so loud when your taxinng but i really like how it looks like and it’s really cheap with cool suspension might get one myself in a month overall really good jet
These 64mm... by nature feel like an under powered heavier version of the 50mm edfs from arrows. Would like to see them offered to run on a light weight 6s pack.. to see if thatopens up the flight characteristics
Last week, after a long wait, I bought 2 of these from Turbines-RC, one for my son and one for myself as we like to fly in formation. Unfortunately both models suffered from ESC malfunction. After less than 2 minutes of flying the ESC goes into emergency mode, leaving just the servos working for an emergency landing. The cause is that the ESC is 40Amp while the motor draws 48Amp. We are very very disappointed considering the fact that for a 64mm EDF is very expensive, being more than Eur 80 dearer than the Motion RC Banshee. This also leaves me thinking that FMS does not test their electronics. Sadly I DO NOT recommend this model.
its nice that you make review on jets of a variaty of price ranges, you guys are the only rc review channel i can put my full trust into
We get a lot of what we fly sent in exchange for reviewing the aircraft in question, but we don't feel that it's impossible to be objective and fair with that in mind. Happy to hear you enjoy our channel!
@@TwoBrosRCI'm torn between this and the rafale 64mm, this will be my 2nd jet after the 50mm habu. I just got into the hobby but I push my planes really hard. I really like the way the rafale high alphas, and looks much better imo. I like the flaps and handling on the futura so I'm torn. Any input?
Normally made up looking planes like this aren't my thing. I got it just for fun n games, but man, what a blast this thing is to fly!! I too fly it with the battery the back strap. And I got my buddy whose never flow edfs to fly this one and he loved it so much he bought himself one! What an awesome little plane!
Just maiden mine today. My first EDF! What a blast!! Not one click of trim was needed. I'm hooked now!!
It´s indeed a great jet. I mainly fly her on 4S 2200 35C with 180g. Since I don´t fly hard, I´m flying always around 3:30 - 3:45 and having 3,7-3,75 V/cell and she flies great too. On 5S 2200 CNHL she flies around 3:00 with excessive thrust, but pretty more amps so the capacity is pretty sucked out :P ending around 3,65V. After around 10 flights I had my first edf stall and repaired her. She doesnt looks great but flies as before :) . The other day I had a stall on landing approach beeing almost able to recover her a couple of times but the colleagues told me just to land on the bushes. And she just lost a small already glued piece on the air intake foam. I tested her on the ground, took off and did my landing properly. That was the only way to go home satisfied :D xD
I ordered one today in my fav store ,Get it set next week ❤
Watched your video after ordering mine two weeks ago 😉 Delivery to Europe takes some time, so still waiting ... It's going to be my 2nd EDF after getting some hours in on an Arrows Avanti. Hope I keep it one piece for a while 😎 Thanks for the thourough review & useful tips !
Hope you enjoy it!
Nice review of what looks like the next plane in my Hanger. Thanks for the tips on CG also . I have just purchased the 64 MM Rafale and after 20 + flights on it I am really loving it and looking for a Sport Jet to compliment it in the 64 MM 4 S range. This one looks like a Winner and should fly well with the 2600 MAH 4 S batteries I have been buying lately.
Thanks again
Happy to help!
Great video 2Bros! I absolutely love this 64mm, best of its class! Plenty of power and does everything I want! It is a daily flyer for sure!!
I have 26 flights so far on this Jet and only have a few wing scrapes that was easily covered up and protected with electrical tape(thanks for the tip).
I am a little worries when spare parts will be available, knowing that ever one of these has a ticket with the ground and will need a replacement at some point, Please FMS stock spare parts for this jet that you will have in your lineup for the next 10 years+!
It's so weird that they have spare parts for literally everything *but* the fuselage and wings. At this point it's almost comical. We're hoping they get this fixed soon for everyone's sake.
Nice review Jon, really looks like a great 64mm. Mishaps can happen when you fly on the edge. Bummer about the spares, I guess it's happening a little bit of everywhere. I know that Arrows Marlin is ugly (with the current decals) but would love to see a comparison video.
AirHammer out!!
Would love to hear your comparison of the 64mm Futura vs the 64mm Arrows Marlin. Even though the Marlin has chicken wire Landing gear. Thanks Jon, a most excellent review, as usual.
I would like to see that video myself, always wanted to get the Marlin, never did, but now there's this Futura. I'd have to bet the Marlin can be flown a little slower (if desired).
Both fly very similar. Marlins cheaper but isn't painted and no suspension. Buy what u like the look of.
I have never had an rc plane before i really want the FMS futura. But my parents don't really have money but i will get it on my birthday soon on december im so hyped:D
We miss the Stinger 64, which lacked the need for cheater holes. And now we're worried about Stinger64 replacement parts not being avaliable
My 64mm Banshee is very similar. I like to see a comparison between the 2. Mine is equipped with suspension landing gear and I increase the wheel diameter for flying off grass. And I have reverse thrust too. Might pick one of these up sometime and see who’s the real king of The 64mm EDFs.
It's pretty unlikely that we'll ever pick up a Banshee unless Motion sends one to us. It's just not our style of jet.
Both Jets are very Similar except It looks like the Avanta 64mm drops a wing a little quicker then the Banshee . But C.G and airspeed play a big part in that as you obviously know. I'll grab one next Spring , flying season is slowing 🐌 down on the East Coast. Time to pull out the Bush planes soon.
You should look at the freewing 6s 64mm system. I put one in my FMS f-15 and that thing will blow my viper 70 away. I use SMC 2400 6s packs. I think I'm going to grab a futura and toss the 6s in it
Try it on the stock system first. The wing loading is already pretty high as-is.
Amen to everything said 🍻😎
Solid review as always
Do the flaps travel up and down to enable full span flaperons with independent channel connections?
Nope.
I’m asking for the pros opinion on this one. Would you guys recommend this jet as a first plane for someone looking to get into the rc community based off of assembly performance and longevity as well as complexity
It's definitely not a first jet. The wing loading is way too high. As you saw with Ciaran's crash and Jon's crash, getting into a stall can be very difficult to recover from even on batteries weighing close to the recommended size. This is more of a jet you'd fly when you've gotten some experience with RC jets in general.
Ok thanks are there any you recommend for a 200$ below budget
@@Thinkpancakes The Habu 50mm BnF is a solid choice: bit.ly/3LLgiug
Thanks a lot y’all are the best
Mine on the way :)
I just ordered one of these going to put 8s in it
Really good review
I stopped buying fms planes only for the spareparts on backorder for ever!!
I am a freewing fan now !❤
Freewing isn't much better, unfortunately.
@TwoBrosRC OK I order eu warehouse.. maybe more stock 🤔
"So, don't stall it" Advice of the year! lol
It's not wrong!
@@TwoBrosRC Can't argue that
Great video Jon, love my Futura 64mm! What is the CG in mm that do you use? Your battery probably weighs less than mine so I just want to make sure. Thanks!
We don't use measurements - sorry!
@@TwoBrosRC 🙏🏻
Ohh another futura that can hover
About to pull the trigger on this one. Do you think if ESC is upgraded to 60A, it can handle 5S? I fly mostly scale (55% throttle) but like to do 1 or 2 passes at full throttle. Will 5S be a problem in those short passes?
No idea if the ESC can handle the additional voltage. You'd have to look up the component and decide.
110 mph is definitely good for a 64mm
Can't wait to maiden mine good review thanks 😀✈🛫🛬👍👍
Hi, would you recommend this for a first edf? I will def be using this thing w/reflex. If not, I’ll prob opt for a 50-70mm Habu from Horizon Hobby.
Definitely wouldn't recommend this as a first or even second jet. The Habu is a better choice for that.
@@TwoBrosRC ok! Thanks for the input
I made a mistake and bought the Eflight 1.2m T-28 Trojan at the end of it production run, flew at maiden. Crashed due to pilot error and now all parts are discontinued. It will become office ceiling art… Decommissioned 😢
Oooof, that sucks man!
Got a question for you, I have an AR66010T. How are you getting airspeed callouts?
Join us on Discord and we'll be happy to assist. bit.ly/TBRCDiscord
Hi John -could this be a trainer of sorts? Thanks
It could be.
Cheers john @@TwoBrosRC
Why doesn’t the Rafale 64 mm have some suspension like this futura the Rafale is so loud when your taxinng but i really like how it looks like and it’s really cheap with cool suspension might get one myself in a month overall really good jet
Yeah, it's kinda sad that it doesn't come with better suspension gear.
what is the flight time on these 4s 2800 lipos?
3 to 5 minutes, depending on throttle usage.
Do you think a 4s 3200 would be too heavy?
Probably not, but you'll need to be able to handle accelerated stalls and low speed stalls since they'll be more frequent as wing loading increases.
I fly mine on a 4S 4500 - no issues after 10 flights
Is this a decent beginner plane?
Nope. Wouldn't recommend it for that purpose.
@@TwoBrosRC ok thanks
These 64mm... by nature feel like an under powered heavier version of the 50mm edfs from arrows.
Would like to see them offered to run on a light weight 6s pack.. to see if thatopens up the flight characteristics
Nothing about this jet feels underpowered, though. At least not to us.
I put a freewing 6s system in my f-15...it's amazing now lol
You fly any Xfly jets??
Not yet!
What is Wheaton's Law?
"Don't be a dick."
Last week, after a long wait, I bought 2 of these from Turbines-RC, one for my son and one for myself as we like to fly in formation. Unfortunately both models suffered from ESC malfunction. After less than 2 minutes of flying the ESC goes into emergency mode, leaving just the servos working for an emergency landing. The cause is that the ESC is 40Amp while the motor draws 48Amp. We are very very disappointed considering the fact that for a 64mm EDF is very expensive, being more than Eur 80 dearer than the Motion RC Banshee. This also leaves me thinking that FMS does not test their electronics. Sadly I DO NOT recommend this model.
Sounds like your batteries weren't up to snuff.
@TwoBrosRC we are using brand new Admiral 2500mah, cg came perfect.