FYI the tip around disinheritance is outdated as it now also provides a hit to legitimacy, which will impact your relations with nearly everyone. It's often not worth it.
Yes indeed, legitimacy hits hard especially on empire level. Your main heir can cost 500 legitimacy to disinherit and secondary can cost 250. So this is only to be used when you are swimming in legitimacy after a long reign with one ruler or something.
I try to give out land to my kids early so I keep what I want to but most of the time I can’t because they’ll become an independent ruler, I’ll have multiple duchies but I’m a high chieftain, an I can’t give out duchies without them becoming independent
This works with duchies and above. This is especially handy with kingdoms and empires because you can only hold 2 duchies without penalties. It is possible to distribute duchies to a lowborn/ without heirs character with infertile wife within 1 year before your death and then kill / arrest, put him in a dungeon or just wait for his death
@@nick2open yes but i had a revolt in my empire and after i destroyed them and revoked their titles i somehow get tyrrany -120 so it looks like a end of the game here :)
informative and concise. music is distracting, though. can also play the game where you change who you vote for, so you can grant titles to the the previous person you were voting for, and then switch your vote back again.
Thankyou, im here because i've been always curious about those elective successions but never touched it because i dont understand it i was even not touching those lands with that because when i try to install my house in those foreign lands they immediately get replaced by other houses and now i understand why so thankyou again.
So I have a love hate relationship with this strategy, a lot of the time it works but I find myself (a king) being outvoted by one of my vassals (a duke). Why is that the case? And they usually have like 10 extra votes.
Hmm, are you using the Scandinavian elective? That elective type changes voting power depending on the elector's total domain development and capital's popular opinion which can be difficult/impossible to gerrymander
@@SanjiWatsuki I'm assuming so? I'm playing as Haestein and just took half of Italy. Venice and Another location had elections set up that I could not win against. Is there a way to change from Scandinavian Elective to the regular elective that you talked about in the video?
Similarly, don't (by event or manually) put elective on your kingdom* or empire* level titles as this will start out fine when your small, but isn't needed and when you expand you'll be more and more likely to lose the election * Unless it's for rp
I’m a newb, I hold kingdom of Ireland and Wales and all its lands I gave one son kingdom of wales but after my death he also inherited powerful duchies of Ireland and I guess my heir should’ve received wales?
Do you need to add elective laws on every title you have including county titles? Or will the law be applied to all titles if I just do it on kingdom title?
You only need to add the elective law on the highest title you want to manipulate. If you apply it to a kingdom title, it'll trickle down to the other titles under it.
Really good video and useful strategies for role playing. But if you only care about "beating" the game the easiest way is to simply game the game: once you have a male heir, make a save each time your wife is 6 months pregnant and just re roll it to have daughters instead of sons.
Tanistry Elective is so OP for tribal kingdoms. I just finished a game where my fifth character was emperor of Britain, France, Spain and Germany (and nearly all kingdom titles) When he died in 1020, I gave the strongest son every title via tanistry election. Didn’t need points in intrigue, +25 spymasters got easy hooks to secure votes. Switched to feudalism after a safe succession and ended my campaign. ⚔️
A second part of this is once you get max crown authority, you can designate your heir and just change who you vote for Tho you can't designate/vote for grandchildren most of the time, so this can, tho not commonly, cause difficult situations, usually after learned characters
There are 3 electorate types: saxon, scandinavian, and feudal! Saxon and scandinavian require you to have a saxon or scandinavian culture repectively! While feudal require you to have feudal government type! You Can actually get saxon or scandinavian, while tibal, just by having saxon or scandinavian culture! And scandinavian culture are the vikings, btw!
Thanks, what I always do is throw my other heirs in jail(at age 10), negotiate release and force them to take the vows in exchange for a bit of tyranny. This works when playing as a catholic character, don't know if this is possible with other faiths though.
I am on a streak of skipping a generation ...... I set up my main her and disinherit the rest but then he dies and his 2 year old is now next in line....I'm already 72 oh boy
Bad news, it seems they fixed this in the latest patch. Tried it today and my three sons all inherit something even though all my territory is inside two duchies with feudal elective on a single son
You can do more than this by setting a kingdom to elective and not creating any duchies, then making sure your heir gets the whole kingdom. If you have Partition succession then your heir will get all the lands inside a kingdom as no new duchies will be created for the other heirs, meaning your primary elected heir will get the same lands forever. Also if you need help with the elections, you can fabricate hooks to get vassals to vote for your heir.
In the current version, i Think disinheriting YOUR children counts as tyrranny? And you cant give YOUR heirs titles that another hear is set to inherit! But YOU Can give YOUR heirs titles that THEY Are set to inherit, but that Will count towards their inheritance, so you cant cheat the game that Way! But this Can help if you are above YOUR domain limit! The best Way to deal With parttion, is to make sure that every heir becomes an Independent duke, but that YOUR non-primary heirs dont have any counties! That Way, they Will be weak, making YOUR civil reconquest War of succession easy!
@@Smoke477 U cant choose what to give to your children, the maximum u get is half to ur oldest son. So u keep half the time trying to avoid losing titles on sucession, its snnoying...
after watching a few of this creators videos ill say this aou these videos. no weirdness or extra anything. just flat decent advice without any extra hoopla. and the sucession election law suggestion. thats a wrap, sucession isnt an issue anymore. expensive as far as prestege goes but well worth the cost. i have 8 "elections" to pass my main titles on to my prefered heir emporer, 4 kingdoms and my main 3 dutchies where i own all the counties. at sucession i give off some my main counties until i have the where-with-all to carry them again and just revoke the titles i gave to unlanded nobodies back. my prolem now and im not seeing any videos about it is .. what do do when upon a vassals death thier heir has a top leige other than me and i lose 1/3 of my empire. ive tried to game it out a few ways but my oldest save once i relize the probelm doesnt give me a lot of time to structure a painless solution to the problem. and i cant let a third slip away to another dynasty member that created thier own house and has thier own agenda. its bad enough i empowered the prick when i sent him as my designee on a crusade thinkn he'd get killed only to wind up with a frickn kingdom right next door to me. the pope is my uncle, who my dad reinstated back to the throne of peter after some arabs conqured rome and i took it back only for him to lay claim to my empire title ( Imma have to murder his ungrateful ass). i hate and love this game at the same time. i have about a dozen dutchies i can create. is that how i do it? create those dutchies and give the dutchies to more complient vassals with no out of dynasty hiers
I love you man but the music is too loud.
Lower the volume?
@@fluto6997 thls way you can't hear what he speaks anymore
@@largebig79I hope to god you are trying to be sarcastic
L
I didnt think so
FYI the tip around disinheritance is outdated as it now also provides a hit to legitimacy, which will impact your relations with nearly everyone. It's often not worth it.
Yes indeed, legitimacy hits hard especially on empire level. Your main heir can cost 500 legitimacy to disinherit and secondary can cost 250. So this is only to be used when you are swimming in legitimacy after a long reign with one ruler or something.
Yes and also you can't give lands to your heir early if he doesn't stand to inherit the land after your death.
I've been wracking my brain trying to figure this out- this made it really clear and simple. Great video!!
Thanks for the great content. Can you get us more CK 3 guides? It is so valuable. (music is quite loud by the way)
As the king of brittany (which is equivalent to the duke of brittnay in term of size), this is a perfect trick haha
Again - an AWESOME tactic. Thanks so much!
Making the music louder than you was a bold choice.
I try to give out land to my kids early so I keep what I want to but most of the time I can’t because they’ll become an independent ruler, I’ll have multiple duchies but I’m a high chieftain, an I can’t give out duchies without them becoming independent
please make the music louder I can still barely hear you talking
This works with duchies and above. This is especially handy with kingdoms and empires because you can only hold 2 duchies without penalties. It is possible to distribute duchies to a lowborn/ without heirs character with infertile wife within 1 year before your death and then kill / arrest, put him in a dungeon or just wait for his death
Ok, but how to arrest them without getting a tyrrany (and you are not specialing in intrugue lifestile)?
@@mikes2135 Put lowborn characters with crime traits to your titles then apply prison when you want)
@@nick2open thanks
@@mikes2135 For me tyranny
@@nick2open yes but i had a revolt in my empire and after i destroyed them and revoked their titles i somehow get tyrrany -120 so it looks like a end of the game here :)
You are making good videos, keep it up
Great video : music too loud
informative and concise. music is distracting, though.
can also play the game where you change who you vote for, so you can grant titles to the the previous person you were voting for, and then switch your vote back again.
Thankyou, im here because i've been always curious about those elective successions but never touched it because i dont understand it i was even not touching those lands with that because when i try to install my house in those foreign lands they immediately get replaced by other houses and now i understand why so thankyou again.
So I have a love hate relationship with this strategy, a lot of the time it works but I find myself (a king) being outvoted by one of my vassals (a duke). Why is that the case? And they usually have like 10 extra votes.
Hmm, are you using the Scandinavian elective? That elective type changes voting power depending on the elector's total domain development and capital's popular opinion which can be difficult/impossible to gerrymander
@@SanjiWatsuki I'm assuming so? I'm playing as Haestein and just took half of Italy. Venice and Another location had elections set up that I could not win against. Is there a way to change from Scandinavian Elective to the regular elective that you talked about in the video?
@@RokashyLowlights presumably you can open the title, delete the current law for prestege, then make it the feudal elective that was shown in video
Similarly, don't (by event or manually) put elective on your kingdom* or empire* level titles as this will start out fine when your small, but isn't needed and when you expand you'll be more and more likely to lose the election
* Unless it's for rp
Maybe turn the background sound off ?
Well why does it force me to recruit the vassals? And why can’t I kick them out?
Gerrymandering is the greatest method. I just give land to my heir within those two duchies to help manage it, but also to get him creating income.
Thank you so much for this video ! The music is a bit too loud by the way
thanks for the content.
the song's volume on the background is too high.
I appreciate it!
I’m a newb, I hold kingdom of Ireland and Wales and all its lands I gave one son kingdom of wales but after my death he also inherited powerful duchies of Ireland and I guess my heir should’ve received wales?
Do you need to add elective laws on every title you have including county titles? Or will the law be applied to all titles if I just do it on kingdom title?
You only need to add the elective law on the highest title you want to manipulate. If you apply it to a kingdom title, it'll trickle down to the other titles under it.
@@SanjiWatsukiso like if I put my only empire title under feudal elective and did everything you said would they get everything in that empire?
Really good video and useful strategies for role playing. But if you only care about "beating" the game the easiest way is to simply game the game: once you have a male heir, make a save each time your wife is 6 months pregnant and just re roll it to have daughters instead of sons.
Tanistry Elective is so OP for tribal kingdoms. I just finished a game where my fifth character was emperor of Britain, France, Spain and Germany (and nearly all kingdom titles) When he died in 1020, I gave the strongest son every title via tanistry election. Didn’t need points in intrigue, +25 spymasters got easy hooks to secure votes. Switched to feudalism after a safe succession and ended my campaign. ⚔️
Can you please turn the audio a little more louder i can't barely hear you
wish ur music was off can't hear diddly.
TURN THE MUSIC UP A BIT I CANT WUITE HEAR IT
what if you cannot enact an election law?
A second part of this is once you get max crown authority, you can designate your heir and just change who you vote for
Tho you can't designate/vote for grandchildren most of the time, so this can, tho not commonly, cause difficult situations, usually after learned characters
There are 3 electorate types: saxon, scandinavian, and feudal! Saxon and scandinavian require you to have a saxon or scandinavian culture repectively! While feudal require you to have feudal government type! You Can actually get saxon or scandinavian, while tibal, just by having saxon or scandinavian culture! And scandinavian culture are the vikings, btw!
Thanks, what I always do is throw my other heirs in jail(at age 10), negotiate release and force them to take the vows in exchange for a bit of tyranny. This works when playing as a catholic character, don't know if this is possible with other faiths though.
I am convinced that you have nothing on underneath the camera
Holy order and monks are also op, don’t sleep on it
please elaborate, how so? Thanks
@@legokingiscool You can force your kid into taking vows.
@@ill-fated2895doesn’t it only when kids have warrior traits?
@@RobertStalbans that's for the holy order.
@@ill-fated2895 oh.. It seems Muslims and many other don't have that option
thanks. really well explained.
I am on a streak of skipping a generation ...... I set up my main her and disinherit the rest but then he dies and his 2 year old is now next in line....I'm already 72 oh boy
This is a game changer 😂
Music too loud and distracting
Bad news, it seems they fixed this in the latest patch. Tried it today and my three sons all inherit something even though all my territory is inside two duchies with feudal elective on a single son
Thanks this is super helpful :)
If your wife delivers another son, just load last save. Work for me everytime.
Lmao that works too 😂
You can do more than this by setting a kingdom to elective and not creating any duchies, then making sure your heir gets the whole kingdom. If you have Partition succession then your heir will get all the lands inside a kingdom as no new duchies will be created for the other heirs, meaning your primary elected heir will get the same lands forever.
Also if you need help with the elections, you can fabricate hooks to get vassals to vote for your heir.
Thx bro
I figured this on my own but it honestly kills all the difficulty in the game
In the current version, i Think disinheriting YOUR children counts as tyrranny? And you cant give YOUR heirs titles that another hear is set to inherit! But YOU Can give YOUR heirs titles that THEY Are set to inherit, but that Will count towards their inheritance, so you cant cheat the game that Way! But this Can help if you are above YOUR domain limit! The best Way to deal With parttion, is to make sure that every heir becomes an Independent duke, but that YOUR non-primary heirs dont have any counties! That Way, they Will be weak, making YOUR civil reconquest War of succession easy!
Partition is probably the dumbest mechanic in the game.
fr its so damn annoying lmao
Turn the music down (or better still, off).
Music too loud my guy. Great video therewise tho.
Use the Testament mod
Had to watch muted with subs on due to the loud music overtaking your voice.
Solid content though 👍🏻
Ffs music louder than you
Trying to learn how to solve succession crisis not listen to a fucking symphony 🤣
The new sucession system makes the game annoying.
What did they change?
@@Smoke477 U cant choose what to give to your children, the maximum u get is half to ur oldest son.
So u keep half the time trying to avoid losing titles on sucession, its snnoying...
@@gureidens61 That's lame. I just found this video 2 weeks ago and I was enjoying the game a lot more.
Great content most ck3 guides are trash
This video is okay but you say as long as your careful. I feel like it wouldn’t been more informal to say how to be more careful
after watching a few of this creators videos ill say this aou these videos. no weirdness or extra anything. just flat decent advice without any extra hoopla. and the sucession election law suggestion. thats a wrap, sucession isnt an issue anymore. expensive as far as prestege goes but well worth the cost. i have 8 "elections" to pass my main titles on to my prefered heir emporer, 4 kingdoms and my main 3 dutchies where i own all the counties. at sucession i give off some my main counties until i have the where-with-all to carry them again and just revoke the titles i gave to unlanded nobodies back. my prolem now and im not seeing any videos about it is .. what do do when upon a vassals death thier heir has a top leige other than me and i lose 1/3 of my empire. ive tried to game it out a few ways but my oldest save once i relize the probelm doesnt give me a lot of time to structure a painless solution to the problem. and i cant let a third slip away to another dynasty member that created thier own house and has thier own agenda. its bad enough i empowered the prick when i sent him as my designee on a crusade thinkn he'd get killed only to wind up with a frickn kingdom right next door to me. the pope is my uncle, who my dad reinstated back to the throne of peter after some arabs conqured rome and i took it back only for him to lay claim to my empire title ( Imma have to murder his ungrateful ass). i hate and love this game at the same time. i have about a dozen dutchies i can create. is that how i do it? create those dutchies and give the dutchies to more complient vassals with no out of dynasty hiers