Well...to be honest i used the embrace celibacy, and a year later the wife was pregnant...the child looked nothing like my character but I ended up with 2 heirs one of which was definitely not from my character lineage.
That why I peak wife that does not have traits that oppose my owns and Romance her right away. I did that many times, with soulmate there were no situations like yours.
Hey man, don't forget to talk about the elective succession laws that can be added. It will not only reduce the distribution of titles, and you can even select your primary heir.
Always make you main (or two main) duchy elective, and be sure you are the only one voting. Easy. Once you start collecting kingdoms/empires, time to start using renown or killing babies.
Yup, and don't forget you can also set up different inheritance laws for your different titles. For example, let's say as a Norse character you own two duchies. Normally one would go to your primary heir, the other to your second son. If you leave confederate succession for your primary title but you change it to elective for your second duchy and select your first son as heir, you can have your primary heir inherit both.
Another tip: if you want to get rid of someone in your court like one of your heirs, you can declare war on a distant ruler then send the person you want to be killed either alone or with 2-3 people. The method is great for not incurring tyranny or decreased renown.
@@thelenardjourney8525 "Alright my son, I am trusting you to go and besiege the city of Paris. I leave in your charge 4 archers, a couple footmen, and glitterhoof, the court marshal."
1. Expand quickly, conquer poor and foreign lands and give it to your minor heirs 2. Amass a lot of gold and retinues to help your main heir reconquer lands given to other heirs
killing heirs is always solid solution, but what i have discovered during my andalusia game is conquer another nearby kingdom disinherit the undesirable child with 150 renoune and then give him the kingdom title that way i can rely on having him as solid ally to call in my wars + the extra 1 renoune per month you get for a relative sitting on another throne
I’m surprised you don’t have tens of thousands of followers. All your videos are great and helpful! I have been learning from them. Keep up the great work!
The answer is pretty easy. The more people know and agree that he makes great content the more potential subscribers he can get. And that is in a large part the task of his current subscribers. So spread the word people.
Most often during my reign I snatch up a few unwanted kingdoms. I then give those kingdoms to my unwanted heirs and give them independence, which I tend to do pretty early, because all of them will start to generate renown. Hand out unused artifacts that give renown to them and by the time you need to fix inheritance, they've generated part of the renown needed to disinherit them. Over generations this snowballs into huge renown gains and the dynasty of many crowns decision, which increases the renown gain even further to the point that you can disinherit an heir faster than any wife or concubine can spit them out.
Also, if you grant titles to your secondary heirs they won't inherit on your death, because that land counts toward their inheritance, so if you have a lot of newly conquered land you might want to give it to your sons
I played much more ck2 but i found if you had an empire you could keep a secondary heir from claiming any prinary holdings if you gave them two duchies.
You can also do this, i always save like 200 gold in the bank extra, so that when succession happens. My next player character will immediately declare multiple wars in on his siblings using mercenaries. I prefer spending my money rather than renown. Because renown will give you passive effect on a specific focus. Specially in the early game. You can always have money, like modify contract, ask Popey for donation, wars, taxes, blackmails. I tend to have lots of children because im a sucker for a perfect heir.
oh I had a weird game yesterday, had to stop it. they changed Jarl Dyre, now he is part of his fathers dynasty, Halfdan. Everything was fine, I had a gladiator wife with 36 prowess, 4 star martial 19, albino. My first son was generated and quite bad, I divorced that wife and my house changed from Oskyldr to Sjegge. But the other weird thing was that my heir changed from my first to second son, was nothing changed, I landed him, probably my father was alive and with more troops he became the dynasty leader, so I ended up with my second son in rule. I was like, oh I switch character to my genius albino kid and take it back. Nope, even with the support of the superior aunts and alliances I couldn't fight Kiev and the Maa I left for him so next generation was even worse. Sad part is that I had the albino genius for my 2nd 4th and 5th ruler but wasn't playable as an independent king, I swear even as a duke vassal would of been better. I could of played as my second son but he skipped over those traits. oh well, the small update ruined the savefile anyway.
I was so confused when I conquered Ireland and declared a kingdom and then my primary heir ended up with zero taxes coming in from his jealous vassal siblings.
Ambitious trait usually makes it impossible to have your heirs take the vows, but remember that your weak hook as head of the dynasty can always be used to make them accept.
8:00 I'm not sure if you played many tribals or custom tribals, but if you can select your priest, temporarily disables him as an heir to any title, so it only works for one person and only until he is a priest, but if you can fire your current one and select your son before succession, skipping over one bad kid is possible but the sad thing is that often times your heir, the primary kid will have all the events boosting his stats, like blademaster, correcting flaws and befriending other vassals so doing early makes sense. there is an event where your son kills someone during a hunt, and one option is to kill him too, so doing hunting on cooldown is important, also maybe the level of the hunting ground, you can see a small icon where you hunt, so you can double click yourself during hunt and takes you to the location to check that icon. now, with royal court, one of the new items is a small ornament which comes from hunt and I played almost up to 1300 and only got one. if you can't murder your kids, you can still imprison them, torture and move to dungeon and also won't count for kinslayer since they die from wounds/inprisonment. another way is forcing them to be knights, also you can settle them in dangerous areas, like giving a duchy where someone else owns all but one county. this will trigger a fight over those lands as the ai will try to revoke them right away. sadly if they lose titles they might get other on succession so don't land them too early or it messes up the land allocation even further (sad we don't have control over this). You can land him in a rich county with low walls and near a tribal neighbor, they can capture or kill him during a raid. yesterday I had a really weird situation where I needed to move my capital to pick up a different culture, but also didn't wanted my other son getting it (kiev with 21 development due to the decision) and one way to go about it is setting a scandinavian election just for the duchy, and since you own it, you select whoever you want with each county counting a vote. the bad part is that you lose all your courtiers, so make sure to land them first or pin them or something, but that early, rebuilding court is fine. you can always fight wars for those lands, and one important thing is having your capital maxed out, even in tribal counts, the development won't give extra troops but income, and your main son gets the man at arms. but in feudal the huge development difference makes it so that you will easily beat your brothers and take back the lands. Don't forget that they can be your best vassals if they lose the claims on you so don't ransom them, make them renounce claims. Also consider leaving them alone, an independent empire or kingdom is usually gives a bunch of renown for your family.
Great piece. 👍 What I personally try to do is a “controlled distribution” before your character dies. As I only play Ironman this of course a bit of a hit and miss as sometimes the char will die before you set that up (especially during plague bombs). But basically the tactic I use is to dole out similar level teir titles as they would inherit to all my eligible heirs. This way I can control which kingdom, duchy or county they get. It’s easier the smaller your realm is of course but usually it plays out well.
Hands down, the very best video on the topic. Not only are you funny while explaining things, it is very clear and straightforward. 7/11 would disinherit again
Another option I use is immediately after the birth on an unwanted heir, I imprison them and send them to the dungeons. Most of the time they die within the year if they don't have good buffs from the start. If you only do it once every few years the Tyranny incured isn't too bad either.
First time my character died I for some reason thought that it would all go to my primary heir, I was so flabergasted when I saw my empire being divided by multiple duchies I ragequited and never played the game again until now. I was really scared that something horrendous would happen to my lands again but now I can rest easy. Thank you ! 🗡🛡👍
One thing that I did recently is to change your authority to level 4, that way you can choose your heir for 1500 prestige and they will inherit absolutely everything. Beware though I was able to do that because of my culture (Austrian) being very developed (867 start). It's not hard to do that, just make your own culture as you like it and have it in your capital, which you'd then constantly develop with your steward. At some point you'd be flying through all the innovations
Something else you can do is start a war, make a very small army, add the people you want to die to it (not only sons but also annoying vassals) and send them to the enemy. I discovered this by complete chance when losing a fight with my five sons in the army, 3 died, 2 survived, my player heir, and the order member, I got really lucky lmao. I totally agree with the do nothing part, having a big realm with no enemies is quite boring after a few generations. A little siblings war is always good fun. Or I conquer enough duchies for my sons to have lands without taking my 2 main duchies, it's a nice driving force to expand when you're content with what you have. Not long ago I played as the Doux of Cyprus, decided to play tall on my comfy island, but I got a second son so conquered a few counties on the eastern coast for him. My main son didn't have any sons and his primary daughter was married normally so the next heir would have been of another dynasty so I switched to play the second son, took one duchy, but he had three sons so I took two other duchies, next son had five sons so I ended up creating the Kingdom of Syria and later conquered the entirety of Egypt in a Holy War. All of my sons had two duchies. And orthodoxy had all of its holy cities except Rome so I took Rome and then the Byzantine Emperor died and his 2 year old daughter was on the throne so I made a faction to claim it (using the meritocracy perk which is pretty broken honestly) and literally the entire Empire joined (I later discovered that everyone who had joined gained a hook on me so all of my vassals had one…) and then it was a headache to manage that weird Empire so I just left there.
Just things to keep in mind. Disinheriting can't be helped sometimes. But it's more you need to be Dynasty head, which I wasn't because I had a better heir in my 2nd or 3rd son. I could do that with an elective succession. (it took me 2 generations, wars, murder, and a lot of frustration to fix that) You can only have so much control over your characters. If you still play as the parent, your heir is going to do thier own thing, like have a lot of children. And you can only take celibacy if you have control of your character. Giving your heir land, which you sometimes really want to do, will make them even less controllable. 10:52 I disagree here. If you do 1 it eats away at your own domain, duchy and counties. Probably the stronger counties if you have already build buildings in them. If you want to regain control over those stronger counties, you'd have to revoke them giving you some long lasting modifiers. It's tedious and takes time. Having them split of into independent realms and reconquer them is usually better. Just keep in mind they can be allied with each other when you try to reconquer them, but it's still better. You won't get any tax or levies from your siblings if they rebel against you. And because they ate away at your personal domain they could be stronger than. Try to have them inherit small and weak, kingdoms duchies and counties. There are a few 1 county duchies around, and a significant amount of 2 county duchies. Some kingdoms have only 1 or 2 duchies or are weak in general. Bohemia is 1 but that one can be build up to be incredibly beefy. If you can handle the Byzantines and/or the Muslim Caliphates there are 2 2 county 1 duchy kingdoms right next to each other. Krete and Cyprus. For example if you are king of Aquitaine, you might want to become emperor, but you can also focus on Navarra and Brittany first. 1 is 1 duchy 6 counties kingdom, the other is a 5 counties kingdom with 2 duchies where controlling 3 counties, the same as the bigger duchy, is already enough to create the kingdom. In the video, you could maybe create the Kingdom of Sardinia. But with 2 heirs you could also wait, let it split, create the kingdom then reconquer Corsica. Then you have number of options available and your new character has some extra prestige which your previous character maybe didn't need being an old feudal ruler. You could even give back the duchy to your sibling if they still have a county, so your sibling likes you because you gave him his title back. Or conquer something else and give him land there and revoke the titles in Corsica. The benefits of receiving titles will outweigh the revoking penalties. If you create the kingdom first, the sibling could just eat away at your land in Sardinia, because they want land that is equal to a kingdom. You might have a kingdom title, but because they will have more direct domain they can be stronger than you, making them dangerous for rebellions. Also the music in the outro drowned out your voice. It being so loud was not a pleasant experience.
Thanks for the help dude, I’ve been a glutton for self punishment since I bought the game. Only breaks I’ve been having is to marathon a bunch of tutorials to try and do better next time 2 days of nearly unifying wales 4 times just go die before I could do it and have everything spilt into a million tiny pieces because I have a shit ton of sons Lol. Loving the game though in a infuriating way haha
I recently played a game in Spain managed the first sucession well, was 34, had conquered all of Iberia, was waiting to get to the level of prestige necessary to form an empire had loads of health bonuses and my children where to young to make monks or decide which is best and I got murdered by a random mayor long story short there are now 6 kingdoms.
10:09 "You automatically get a claim on any land that your parent owned." EXCEPT when they inherited lower titles than yours and stayed in your realm! If you're an emperor that holds multiple kingdom titles, your player heir can inherit the empire and your primary kingdom title, but your other children might inherit other kingdoms and become your primary heir's vassals. In this case, your heir's siblings all get claims on each other's kingdoms and your empire, but you don't get the claims on their kingdoms. This makes it really easy to find yourself stuck with a bunch of pretender vassals that all hate you and each other. This is just one example, but in general keep in mind that sometimes it might be better for your succession to avoid creating (or even destroy!) titles. For example, not creating the empire title means you lose your additional kingdoms to your non-player-heir children, but it also means you as your heir can declare war to reclaim those kingdoms.
@@GunGun-cf3ss As stated in the comment: > This makes it really easy to find yourself stuck with a bunch of [strong] pretender vassals that all hate you and each other.
If you own every county in a duchy and then change its succession law to “feudal elective”, you can just vote for your player heir and they will inherit everything in that duchy no matter how many heirs you have. Since you don’t have any vassals in that duchy you are the only one that can vote so it’s an easy way to secure a bunch of land for your heir.
Heya! Great video! There's a really cheesy way to deal with succession in the early game, and it makes use of any kind of elective succession law. If you hold 2 or more titles with titles below it with no titles above it (2 or more duchy titles no kingdom title, 2 or more kingdom titles with no empire title, or 2 empire titles), and set these to an elective succession type (Scandinavian, Tanistry, Saxon, Feudal Elective), you effectively can choose your own heir in the early game. There are some drawbacks to this method though. You will need to create whatever title that is equivalent to your top title and set these to whatever elective law whenever you can, or some of your land and titles will be lost on succession despite the Succession Tab saying that it won't. Also, if you only one title that is highest (one kingdom title, one empire title), it won't work even if you give all of your eligible heirs a duchy title. Your firstborn eligible heir will always receive your capital county for whatever reason. To counter this, you need to have absolute crown authority and designated your kid that you want to elected as well.
I remember that once, i literally imprisoned all of my childs (exept one) and just exucuted them. Since my ruler had cancer and he was near to death, i didnt had much of an issue about tyranny.
One cheesy trick is to set your main heir up with good lands before you die. Usually partition wont allow you to give your heir titles they are not in line to inherit, but there is a workaround; change your heir, land them, and change back. There are a few easy ways to do this. 1: Practice a faith with gender equality. This allows you to switch at will between male preference and female preference in your succession laws so long as you have 500 prestige and your vassals like you. As long as you have both a son and a daughter, this will change who your heir is long enough to change them and switch back. 2: Have absolute crown authority. Change your heir at will for 1000 prestige. 3: Have elective succession laws, and simply change your vote. This is dependent on your culture, and may be less dependable if you don't control a majority of the votes, but doesn't cost you anything after you spend the initial prestige to add the election law to your title. 4: Have a bastard or two before you get married. Give them land, and legitimize them afterward. This works better if your faith has gender equality, so RNGesus can't deny you the benefits of marriage long term by giving you five bastard daughters in a row. 5: And the old classic; Disinherit, land them, restore inheritance. Expensive, but doesn't depend on you belonging to a specific religion or culture. If you don't want to risk your heir getting themselves killed or maimed as a proper landed character, go down the Education Tree to get 'Know Thyself', which gives you a year's warning before you die of old age. Then you can give them all your titles at the last minute assuming nobody murders you. If you don't want to risk dying by accident before you get the old age learning, you can go out to get new counties to give your heir so you don't have to give the titles you are using away while you are alive.. If you use this method, it is best to invest in a large capital county with lots of holdings, and never spend too much on holdings outside of it; Aside from your capital you will have new titles, each generation. When looking for counties to give your heir, look for high control and development. Taking a county by force either hurts control, so it is best to either get your kids titles by peacefully revoking them from other vassals (fabricate claims on them first to avoid tyranny penalties), or land them nice in early so that your marshal has time to fix any existing control issues in their new county.
omg I literally discovered this method like 1 year ago and then forgotten it like 2 months ago and I have looked through all the internet for it again but didn't find it and I thought I was insane and having false menor but then I found your comment and it came back to me, I also pair it with Ritual Suecide so that I can give my heir all my titles and then off myself
Oh hey, it's me on the end cart! But yeah, I normally take the historical route of just reconquering my siblings' lands after succession. The part that I feel might be 'new' since the last time I played is that I recall having to always fabricate a claim on said lands which also carried a malus due to 'fabricating against a relative', but if that's not a thing any more, NICE!
Subscribed! Finally someone who goes directly to the point and is fun to listen/watch to. Do you plan to continue covering CK3 topics? And is there anywhere where people can ask you game related questions of or future video ideas? For example how to deal with the bad ally AI during crusades. Thx u
I’m a very casual gamer at best . But I just loved ck3 so much when I seen it on Xbox game pass , anyways these videos have been very helpful and my ck3 experience is like no other using your tips after 2 Uninstalls later I got the hang of it Currently Sweden trying to take over to be Scandinavia but Denmark is extremely hard as they took out Norway and much larger then me
personaly i love trying to make my family as spread out as possible, so to me i generaly don´t mind relm divides. Have been a joy to me all since early into ck2. But i can also see how it gets frustrating when you´re trying to build a super realm. With that said i recently found the random succession mod which is really fun when playing the way i play, since it lets you play as a random dynasty member upon succession,
I prefered the do nothing stance. And lost my second most valuable county to one of the two brothers. My hier Harold 3 of Deira still was the most powerful but his power was probably half that of his father. The second brother then went and took his place as second in the kingdom by taking all but 1 of the youngest brothers countys. To stop the brotherly infighting i made my Nephew from the sister as earl of Northumbria and forced the youngest brother to hand over his title. And then The middle brother tried plotting to take the crown. Luckily i stopped the plot so that Harold the IV and Harold the V could become the great kings of Deira. I started as the earl of Lindsey and split from Mercia was a fun game!
One of the best ways to beat succession while still being feudal. Go Bohemia (already a really good start) and instantly research the Table of Princes technology.
Another tip: Some special formable titles give you primogeniture for free. The archduchy of Austria for example. Sure there aren't everywhere, but you have enough of them you get on in many playthroughs.
one more trick: if your inheritance is still partition, your grandson or granddaughter comes before your next son. but if you can change the laws for gender or elective, then switch back it resets to your next son. one way of doing it is taking a kingdom like galycia-Volhynia or Bohemia, anything with election, make primary, then switch back or destroy their law. doing hunts and feasts also might trigger events or stress events, like someone kills them or they kill someone, so you can land secondary sons in baronies/cities and give enough money, if you do it later when you got gregarious, they will spend their own money for feast or hunt as well, and selecting highly stressful childhood traits might kill them. one time my bad firstborn was complete opposite of my grandfather and he conveniently killed him on a feast, they even had the same name :D
I like Celibacy and the perk that lets you know when you will die. When I know I’m gonna die I’ll just give all my lands to my heir. Ofc it’s not always that simple.
also note on the "hey maybe just let it split apart" sometimes having a neighbor whos of your religion and dynasty is a good thing. especially when your goal isnt making a giga empire. id say its almost necessary for reformed pagan feudal games were all your neighors are monotheists and tribes who will raid you the isntant you go to war.
One of my favorite play-throughs, playing as some Persian country, I had four heirs, so after about three hours I successfully murdered three of my children. Then upon my king's death, my empire broke up anyway because my children's children got the inheritance instead and went independent. So I re-loaded my save before killing my kids, played the same three hours or whatever until my king died, but when he did my sons got their inheritance but all stayed in my empire as my heir's vassals. So I absolutely did not need to kill them. Then my next succession my empire completely broke up and I quit. I've never survived more than about 8 successions. I can handle them to a point, but eventually just as I'm getting close to conquering all of either western Africa, Iberia, Western Europe, Arabia, Persia and India, or Mongolia, eventually I get hit with a succession and my empire is cut in a third and everyone invades me and everyone revolts simultaneously. The only game I legit quit as too easy/boring was the Byzantines after restoring the Roman Empire, bringing all of Europe into Orthodoxy, and beginning to conquer the Middle East. But I think I needed a ton of piety to declare wars and had to save up for like 10 game years just to launch a county-level war, but absolutely no one could stand up to me in any wars.
Played Irish, thus Insular Christian , started with 1 son, no wife.so I married off asap before unpause.primary wife had 15 kids (mostly male).another 12 with the secondary wives.conquered Ireland to be King, and died leaving hell for my heir and his 27 siblings
Another means of solving potential inheritance crises is to give the titles to your heirs early before you die. one, you will no longer lose the titles on succession because you've already given them out. two, if you use this method while you're still alive then you have the ability to pick and choose who is getting what. so long as the title partitions are equal there is no succession issue. this means you can give your primary/preferred heir all of the really good titles and his brothers/sisters (if you went that route) get all the lame duck titles.
I think the dry tone of your voice contrasts well with the memes . The clips of the blokes chair collapsing didnt seem to fit with the vid , but did fit , and I couldnt work out if it was genius or you slapped it in and hoped for the best. Either way , it made me laugh . You explain well too , seems that the best way for keeping your lands is changing the succession laws or managing the titles you have so the split is minimal . Keep doing the vids. Dont know what you need to do to build up your subs but I bet theres plenty out there for you.
I am new to this game, and all I can say is the succession system is absolutely asinine. If I have a kingdom over various duchies, my heir who inherits the kingdoms over those duchies should never lose those duchies. That makes no logical sense. Even when they’re not my family, my vassals just take all of my land when my character dies. It’s so frustrating and ridiculous.
You kinda skipped or I somehow missed it. But the BEST way to deal early on with Succession is to focus your control on One Duchy and have all or most of the castles under your control. Then when you have the right Title (Maybe King/Queen) and 1500 prestige just add election law to that duchy. Select YOUR main Heir and he/she will be the only one that can get enough votes to get that title. Side effect of that is that NO ONE can get any of the castle under that. All other kids will be left out. You can do it with Kingdom/Empire titles as well but it's harder to insure that you will out vote other's. :)
@@Zieley Thanks works great for main dutchy/counties ... Doesn't work well with Kingdoms if your Heir are women as it triggers like a 150 point pen to elect her.
I like to have children late in life (50 when my bloodline is still weak and I havent got lots of dynasty perks, 70 when I expect to live to 100). Marry infertile women when I'm still in my 20-40s for the skills, when I'm ready to reproduce I'll do an epstein and get the best trait 16 yrs old. Sometimes I'll have lovers when I'm young, if she gives me daughters I'll legitimise them and matrilinial marry them off for dynasty prestige, not for sons cuz they'll be 60 when I die. That way I usually only have 1-2 sons with good traits, I'll just disinherit to have 1 sole heir. The other son(s) I'll give some distant kingdom to and give him independence for dynasty prestige.
This is all good and all but you can also revoke titles after a revolt. I find this is a great way to situate your holdings. So when your character is new to the throne you can wait to marry siblings and kids and appear weak. Then join a war take a few losses and the revolt will take off. It helps to have money to buy mercenaries if need be
7:30 if you just imprison your child. There is a negotiate brelease option to force your child to take the vows. You will gain some tyranny. But you can easily make them a monk.....
I just picked the primarily male heir option. And I looked for betroval brides as soo as they were born. My son, Rease was 2 years old brotroved to a 10 year old girl. He had quick trait she had pretty trait.lol
My favorite method is using concubines/lovers. Marry women who are infertile exclusively for alliances/renown and take concubines/find lovers to have children. You can break up with lovers and ditch concubines at will to ensure you don’t have unwanted extra kids.
Grant as many duchies to your first son as you have before a second one is born, once a second one is born, give him another to make sure the player heir inherits your direct control counties.
Can confirm, the disinherit was a perfect last resort to cut out my primary heir who had a ton of negative traits and committed crimes and put things on a sole son just before my main character died
Ended my first character after taking almost all of Ireland starting at 41 ending at 60 I had 3 sons, the one I had to play as was the eldest one which was 33 at the time of my death. My other son had inherited 1/3 of Ireland and became a Holy pacifist….
11:08 option 3: Yuo keep ALL Of YOUR counties, but YOUR heirs get a few Independent titles without any domain! This is the best option, as it Will be super easy!
My slowly trying to keep the Eastern Roman Empire in one piece in 1078 after spending the past 200 years as the king of Greece before eventually becoming emperor.
My goal is to have as many kids as possible and trying to live an extremely long life so that if i hopefully conquer a number kingdoms i can die happily knowing my heirs will inherit massive amounts of land & power.
I finally united Kent, Wessex, and Cornwall after 60 years and built a huge revenue gain, just for my character to die when I declare a major war. Next thing you know the kingdom is split amongst his 3 sons, I lose the war, and all the planning wasted.
Yes, but that method doesn't guarantee to kill them. They might just get caught, wounded or retreat respawning at your capital. Sometimes it takes many attempts to get them finally removed.
i only had one holding after a succession or two, so i waged war on some of my siblings one by one to get it back. then had a successor with high stewardship and got to around +10 gold/month for a while, so that works too works even better if your siblings are still little kids
Best thing you can do, you use your house head hook to get all children that you don´t want inheriting anything to become monks with the "ask to take the vows decision"
I tend to go with step 4 for my tribal astral saves, and do nothing. I like the idea of roleplaying a real dynasty without the cheese. Only problem is about one to two rulers in. Everything goes swimmingly at first. Viking leadership. Massive levies and professional soldiers. Setting up new titles and kingdoms, until boooom, Kingdom of Jorvik baby! Then you die. You lose most of your income because your lands get distributed. You can't afford your massive men-at-arms regiments. You can't raid as effectively. You get a war declared on your smaller army. You don't have any friends anywhere so your vassals and neighbours all happily watch you get stomped. Then a faction declares an ultimatum and fucks you completely. What to do?
After I became the head of the faith, converting your undesirable heirs to another religion before they become adults disinherits them through assigning them to a educator of another religion.
8:53 The best way to do is imprison them and forcibly making them to accept being a monk. Caution you will get some tyranny. But it can be cleared within 5 years.
I just lost everything because my heir got cancer right after I died, and he did not have any heirs, so I was rushing to get him a son, then right before he died I had a newborn baby to play as, which was fucking terrible. soon after this newborn baby took over the empire, a powerful faction took over and installed a new emperor. With that, I ended up with a tiny piece of land that was constantly getting raided and I just rage quit. Was so frustrating to lose everything. I had lots of men-at-arms but couldnt really use them because they were too expensive with my new piece of land.
Well...to be honest i used the embrace celibacy, and a year later the wife was pregnant...the child looked nothing like my character but I ended up with 2 heirs one of which was definitely not from my character lineage.
That why I peak wife that does not have traits that oppose my owns and Romance her right away. I did that many times, with soulmate there were no situations like yours.
Bring her on Maury
Papa? Lol
Son, I have some bad news.... he's adopted.
That's why you merry lesbians.
@9:00
One of my personal faves--force low prowess heirs to be knights.
Stress hit can lay shit to your real in that case ma man . Otherwise ut surely wouldve been the meta
The guys I have tried to get rid of this way, turned out to be tough die-hards :)
@@akiamini4006 especially if u have some bad traits combo which increase your stress gain
Hey man, don't forget to talk about the elective succession laws that can be added. It will not only reduce the distribution of titles, and you can even select your primary heir.
Yup that is how I handle it :)
Always make you main (or two main) duchy elective, and be sure you are the only one voting. Easy. Once you start collecting kingdoms/empires, time to start using renown or killing babies.
Yup, and don't forget you can also set up different inheritance laws for your different titles. For example, let's say as a Norse character you own two duchies. Normally one would go to your primary heir, the other to your second son. If you leave confederate succession for your primary title but you change it to elective for your second duchy and select your first son as heir, you can have your primary heir inherit both.
@@TheKillaShow With Feudal Elective the kingdoms will take all lower titles with them, but Saxon Elective for some reason is more of a crapshoot.
@@ingold1470 Be smart about which duchy you make your main ones.
Another tip: if you want to get rid of someone in your court like one of your heirs, you can declare war on a distant ruler then send the person you want to be killed either alone or with 2-3 people. The method is great for not incurring tyranny or decreased renown.
yeah but this is completely unrealistic lmao
Monthly python and the holy grail was all a scheme to get rid of those lords and solve their inherretance
they get imprisioned most of the times tho
@@thelenardjourney8525 "Alright my son, I am trusting you to go and besiege the city of Paris. I leave in your charge 4 archers, a couple footmen, and glitterhoof, the court marshal."
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1. Expand quickly, conquer poor and foreign lands and give it to your minor heirs
2. Amass a lot of gold and retinues to help your main heir reconquer lands given to other heirs
killing heirs is always solid solution, but what i have discovered during my andalusia game is conquer another nearby kingdom disinherit the undesirable child with 150 renoune and then give him the kingdom title that way i can rely on having him as solid ally to call in my wars + the extra 1 renoune per month you get for a relative sitting on another throne
That's a pretty solid play as well, having a big powerful family definitely has its benefits
@@Zieley then restoring inheritance gives a bunch of opinion with him and he is after your kids anyway.
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Thanks my man! Very nice of you to say
Agree
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Honestly, one good way, never to expand further than the highest title you can obtain in a lifetime and also make sure your heir is fairly young.
Great point ^
Most often during my reign I snatch up a few unwanted kingdoms. I then give those kingdoms to my unwanted heirs and give them independence, which I tend to do pretty early, because all of them will start to generate renown. Hand out unused artifacts that give renown to them and by the time you need to fix inheritance, they've generated part of the renown needed to disinherit them. Over generations this snowballs into huge renown gains and the dynasty of many crowns decision, which increases the renown gain even further to the point that you can disinherit an heir faster than any wife or concubine can spit them out.
Also, if you grant titles to your secondary heirs they won't inherit on your death, because that land counts toward their inheritance, so if you have a lot of newly conquered land you might want to give it to your sons
Thank you, actually made it through a life and didn’t loose anything valuable. Idk why but no video helped me but this comment did
I played much more ck2 but i found if you had an empire you could keep a secondary heir from claiming any prinary holdings if you gave them two duchies.
You can also do this, i always save like 200 gold in the bank extra, so that when succession happens. My next player character will immediately declare multiple wars in on his siblings using mercenaries. I prefer spending my money rather than renown. Because renown will give you passive effect on a specific focus. Specially in the early game. You can always have money, like modify contract, ask Popey for donation, wars, taxes, blackmails. I tend to have lots of children because im a sucker for a perfect heir.
I like the "do nothing" approach. Fun to see how it plays out.
oh I had a weird game yesterday, had to stop it. they changed Jarl Dyre, now he is part of his fathers dynasty, Halfdan. Everything was fine, I had a gladiator wife with 36 prowess, 4 star martial 19, albino. My first son was generated and quite bad, I divorced that wife and my house changed from Oskyldr to Sjegge. But the other weird thing was that my heir changed from my first to second son, was nothing changed, I landed him, probably my father was alive and with more troops he became the dynasty leader, so I ended up with my second son in rule. I was like, oh I switch character to my genius albino kid and take it back. Nope, even with the support of the superior aunts and alliances I couldn't fight Kiev and the Maa I left for him so next generation was even worse. Sad part is that I had the albino genius for my 2nd 4th and 5th ruler but wasn't playable as an independent king, I swear even as a duke vassal would of been better. I could of played as my second son but he skipped over those traits. oh well, the small update ruined the savefile anyway.
I was so confused when I conquered Ireland and declared a kingdom and then my primary heir ended up with zero taxes coming in from his jealous vassal siblings.
@@That0Homeless0GuyI think that’s because of your control. Set your martial to control, any land that is red is skimming you on taxes.
Ambitious trait usually makes it impossible to have your heirs take the vows, but remember that your weak hook as head of the dynasty can always be used to make them accept.
8:00 I'm not sure if you played many tribals or custom tribals, but if you can select your priest, temporarily disables him as an heir to any title, so it only works for one person and only until he is a priest, but if you can fire your current one and select your son before succession, skipping over one bad kid is possible
but the sad thing is that often times your heir, the primary kid will have all the events boosting his stats, like blademaster, correcting flaws and befriending other vassals so doing early makes sense.
there is an event where your son kills someone during a hunt, and one option is to kill him too, so doing hunting on cooldown is important, also maybe the level of the hunting ground, you can see a small icon where you hunt, so you can double click yourself during hunt and takes you to the location to check that icon. now, with royal court, one of the new items is a small ornament which comes from hunt and I played almost up to 1300 and only got one.
if you can't murder your kids, you can still imprison them, torture and move to dungeon and also won't count for kinslayer since they die from wounds/inprisonment. another way is forcing them to be knights, also you can settle them in dangerous areas, like giving a duchy where someone else owns all but one county. this will trigger a fight over those lands as the ai will try to revoke them right away. sadly if they lose titles they might get other on succession so don't land them too early or it messes up the land allocation even further (sad we don't have control over this). You can land him in a rich county with low walls and near a tribal neighbor, they can capture or kill him during a raid.
yesterday I had a really weird situation where I needed to move my capital to pick up a different culture, but also didn't wanted my other son getting it (kiev with 21 development due to the decision) and one way to go about it is setting a scandinavian election just for the duchy, and since you own it, you select whoever you want with each county counting a vote. the bad part is that you lose all your courtiers, so make sure to land them first or pin them or something, but that early, rebuilding court is fine.
you can always fight wars for those lands, and one important thing is having your capital maxed out, even in tribal counts, the development won't give extra troops but income, and your main son gets the man at arms. but in feudal the huge development difference makes it so that you will easily beat your brothers and take back the lands. Don't forget that they can be your best vassals if they lose the claims on you so don't ransom them, make them renounce claims. Also consider leaving them alone, an independent empire or kingdom is usually gives a bunch of renown for your family.
Ok the classic 80's/90's infomercial or training vid music did it for me! Chef's kiss!
This is the shortest and most helpful video so far. Thank you!
Great piece. 👍 What I personally try to do is a “controlled distribution” before your character dies. As I only play Ironman this of course a bit of a hit and miss as sometimes the char will die before you set that up (especially during plague bombs). But basically the tactic I use is to dole out similar level teir titles as they would inherit to all my eligible heirs. This way I can control which kingdom, duchy or county they get. It’s easier the smaller your realm is of course but usually it plays out well.
Hands down, the very best video on the topic. Not only are you funny while explaining things, it is very clear and straightforward. 7/11 would disinherit again
Another option I use is immediately after the birth on an unwanted heir, I imprison them and send them to the dungeons. Most of the time they die within the year if they don't have good buffs from the start. If you only do it once every few years the Tyranny incured isn't too bad either.
First time my character died I for some reason thought that it would all go to my primary heir, I was so flabergasted when I saw my empire being divided by multiple duchies I ragequited and never played the game again until now. I was really scared that something horrendous would happen to my lands again but now I can rest easy. Thank you ! 🗡🛡👍
Got 70 hours in ck3 and just now figuring this out, sheesh. Thanks a lot!
One thing that I did recently is to change your authority to level 4, that way you can choose your heir for 1500 prestige and they will inherit absolutely everything. Beware though I was able to do that because of my culture (Austrian) being very developed (867 start).
It's not hard to do that, just make your own culture as you like it and have it in your capital, which you'd then constantly develop with your steward. At some point you'd be flying through all the innovations
Something else you can do is start a war, make a very small army, add the people you want to die to it (not only sons but also annoying vassals) and send them to the enemy. I discovered this by complete chance when losing a fight with my five sons in the army, 3 died, 2 survived, my player heir, and the order member, I got really lucky lmao.
I totally agree with the do nothing part, having a big realm with no enemies is quite boring after a few generations. A little siblings war is always good fun.
Or I conquer enough duchies for my sons to have lands without taking my 2 main duchies, it's a nice driving force to expand when you're content with what you have. Not long ago I played as the Doux of Cyprus, decided to play tall on my comfy island, but I got a second son so conquered a few counties on the eastern coast for him. My main son didn't have any sons and his primary daughter was married normally so the next heir would have been of another dynasty so I switched to play the second son, took one duchy, but he had three sons so I took two other duchies, next son had five sons so I ended up creating the Kingdom of Syria and later conquered the entirety of Egypt in a Holy War. All of my sons had two duchies. And orthodoxy had all of its holy cities except Rome so I took Rome and then the Byzantine Emperor died and his 2 year old daughter was on the throne so I made a faction to claim it (using the meritocracy perk which is pretty broken honestly) and literally the entire Empire joined (I later discovered that everyone who had joined gained a hook on me so all of my vassals had one…) and then it was a headache to manage that weird Empire so I just left there.
Just things to keep in mind.
Disinheriting can't be helped sometimes. But it's more you need to be Dynasty head, which I wasn't because I had a better heir in my 2nd or 3rd son. I could do that with an elective succession. (it took me 2 generations, wars, murder, and a lot of frustration to fix that)
You can only have so much control over your characters. If you still play as the parent, your heir is going to do thier own thing, like have a lot of children. And you can only take celibacy if you have control of your character. Giving your heir land, which you sometimes really want to do, will make them even less controllable.
10:52 I disagree here. If you do 1 it eats away at your own domain, duchy and counties. Probably the stronger counties if you have already build buildings in them. If you want to regain control over those stronger counties, you'd have to revoke them giving you some long lasting modifiers. It's tedious and takes time. Having them split of into independent realms and reconquer them is usually better. Just keep in mind they can be allied with each other when you try to reconquer them, but it's still better. You won't get any tax or levies from your siblings if they rebel against you. And because they ate away at your personal domain they could be stronger than.
Try to have them inherit small and weak, kingdoms duchies and counties. There are a few 1 county duchies around, and a significant amount of 2 county duchies. Some kingdoms have only 1 or 2 duchies or are weak in general. Bohemia is 1 but that one can be build up to be incredibly beefy. If you can handle the Byzantines and/or the Muslim Caliphates there are 2 2 county 1 duchy kingdoms right next to each other. Krete and Cyprus.
For example if you are king of Aquitaine, you might want to become emperor, but you can also focus on Navarra and Brittany first. 1 is 1 duchy 6 counties kingdom, the other is a 5 counties kingdom with 2 duchies where controlling 3 counties, the same as the bigger duchy, is already enough to create the kingdom.
In the video, you could maybe create the Kingdom of Sardinia. But with 2 heirs you could also wait, let it split, create the kingdom then reconquer Corsica. Then you have number of options available and your new character has some extra prestige which your previous character maybe didn't need being an old feudal ruler. You could even give back the duchy to your sibling if they still have a county, so your sibling likes you because you gave him his title back. Or conquer something else and give him land there and revoke the titles in Corsica. The benefits of receiving titles will outweigh the revoking penalties.
If you create the kingdom first, the sibling could just eat away at your land in Sardinia, because they want land that is equal to a kingdom. You might have a kingdom title, but because they will have more direct domain they can be stronger than you, making them dangerous for rebellions.
Also the music in the outro drowned out your voice. It being so loud was not a pleasant experience.
been needing this info great vid i got 50hrs in the game and still learning everyday
Thanks for the help dude, I’ve been a glutton for self punishment since I bought the game. Only breaks I’ve been having is to marathon a bunch of tutorials to try and do better next time
2 days of nearly unifying wales 4 times just go die before I could do it and have everything spilt into a million tiny pieces because I have a shit ton of sons Lol. Loving the game though in a infuriating way haha
least confusing vid on this topic, thanks man
I recently played a game in Spain managed the first sucession well, was 34, had conquered all of Iberia, was waiting to get to the level of prestige necessary to form an empire had loads of health bonuses and my children where to young to make monks or decide which is best and I got murdered by a random mayor long story short there are now
6 kingdoms.
10:09 "You automatically get a claim on any land that your parent owned." EXCEPT when they inherited lower titles than yours and stayed in your realm! If you're an emperor that holds multiple kingdom titles, your player heir can inherit the empire and your primary kingdom title, but your other children might inherit other kingdoms and become your primary heir's vassals. In this case, your heir's siblings all get claims on each other's kingdoms and your empire, but you don't get the claims on their kingdoms. This makes it really easy to find yourself stuck with a bunch of pretender vassals that all hate you and each other.
This is just one example, but in general keep in mind that sometimes it might be better for your succession to avoid creating (or even destroy!) titles. For example, not creating the empire title means you lose your additional kingdoms to your non-player-heir children, but it also means you as your heir can declare war to reclaim those kingdoms.
But why would you need to hold all these kingdoms?
@@GunGun-cf3ss As stated in the comment:
> This makes it really easy to find yourself stuck with a bunch of [strong] pretender vassals that all hate you and each other.
@@porcuspine2368 but it's not that hard to keep your vassals happy? Also holding every single kingdom in your empire is just silly imo.
If you own every county in a duchy and then change its succession law to “feudal elective”, you can just vote for your player heir and they will inherit everything in that duchy no matter how many heirs you have. Since you don’t have any vassals in that duchy you are the only one that can vote so it’s an easy way to secure a bunch of land for your heir.
good point about not cheezing the succession... makes for a more realistic play.
Heya! Great video! There's a really cheesy way to deal with succession in the early game, and it makes use of any kind of elective succession law. If you hold 2 or more titles with titles below it with no titles above it (2 or more duchy titles no kingdom title, 2 or more kingdom titles with no empire title, or 2 empire titles), and set these to an elective succession type (Scandinavian, Tanistry, Saxon, Feudal Elective), you effectively can choose your own heir in the early game.
There are some drawbacks to this method though. You will need to create whatever title that is equivalent to your top title and set these to whatever elective law whenever you can, or some of your land and titles will be lost on succession despite the Succession Tab saying that it won't.
Also, if you only one title that is highest (one kingdom title, one empire title), it won't work even if you give all of your eligible heirs a duchy title. Your firstborn eligible heir will always receive your capital county for whatever reason. To counter this, you need to have absolute crown authority and designated your kid that you want to elected as well.
Never thought of that, could be fun to try out!
I remember that once, i literally imprisoned all of my childs (exept one) and just exucuted them. Since my ruler had cancer and he was near to death, i didnt had much of an issue about tyranny.
One cheesy trick is to set your main heir up with good lands before you die. Usually partition wont allow you to give your heir titles they are not in line to inherit, but there is a workaround; change your heir, land them, and change back. There are a few easy ways to do this.
1: Practice a faith with gender equality. This allows you to switch at will between male preference and female preference in your succession laws so long as you have 500 prestige and your vassals like you. As long as you have both a son and a daughter, this will change who your heir is long enough to change them and switch back.
2: Have absolute crown authority. Change your heir at will for 1000 prestige.
3: Have elective succession laws, and simply change your vote. This is dependent on your culture, and may be less dependable if you don't control a majority of the votes, but doesn't cost you anything after you spend the initial prestige to add the election law to your title.
4: Have a bastard or two before you get married. Give them land, and legitimize them afterward. This works better if your faith has gender equality, so RNGesus can't deny you the benefits of marriage long term by giving you five bastard daughters in a row.
5: And the old classic; Disinherit, land them, restore inheritance. Expensive, but doesn't depend on you belonging to a specific religion or culture.
If you don't want to risk your heir getting themselves killed or maimed as a proper landed character, go down the Education Tree to get 'Know Thyself', which gives you a year's warning before you die of old age. Then you can give them all your titles at the last minute assuming nobody murders you.
If you don't want to risk dying by accident before you get the old age learning, you can go out to get new counties to give your heir so you don't have to give the titles you are using away while you are alive.. If you use this method, it is best to invest in a large capital county with lots of holdings, and never spend too much on holdings outside of it; Aside from your capital you will have new titles, each generation. When looking for counties to give your heir, look for high control and development. Taking a county by force either hurts control, so it is best to either get your kids titles by peacefully revoking them from other vassals (fabricate claims on them first to avoid tyranny penalties), or land them nice in early so that your marshal has time to fix any existing control issues in their new county.
omg I literally discovered this method like 1 year ago and then forgotten it like 2 months ago and I have looked through all the internet for it again but didn't find it and I thought I was insane and having false menor but then I found your comment and it came back to me, I also pair it with Ritual Suecide so that I can give my heir all my titles and then off myself
Oh hey, it's me on the end cart! But yeah, I normally take the historical route of just reconquering my siblings' lands after succession. The part that I feel might be 'new' since the last time I played is that I recall having to always fabricate a claim on said lands which also carried a malus due to 'fabricating against a relative', but if that's not a thing any more, NICE!
Haha always great to hear from you. It's adds a lot to the game playing that way I find
Subscribed! Finally someone who goes directly to the point and is fun to listen/watch to. Do you plan to continue covering CK3 topics? And is there anywhere where people can ask you game related questions of or future video ideas?
For example how to deal with the bad ally AI during crusades.
Thx u
Wow, thanks my man! You can always let me know in the comments of videos, I do plan on making more tutorials, maybe one about crusades would be good
I’m a very casual gamer at best . But I just loved ck3 so much when I seen it on Xbox game pass , anyways these videos have been very helpful and my ck3 experience is like no other using your tips after 2 Uninstalls later I got the hang of it
Currently Sweden trying to take over to be Scandinavia but Denmark is extremely hard as they took out Norway and much larger then me
I feel like I’m the only one who enjoys playing as the eastern an slavic empires or realms
@@jayo7215 Yeah you just might be, but hey we all have the luxury of playing the game as we want
personaly i love trying to make my family as spread out as possible, so to me i generaly don´t mind relm divides. Have been a joy to me all since early into ck2. But i can also see how it gets frustrating when you´re trying to build a super realm. With that said i recently found the random succession mod which is really fun when playing the way i play, since it lets you play as a random dynasty member upon succession,
I prefered the do nothing stance. And lost my second most valuable county to one of the two brothers. My hier Harold 3 of Deira still was the most powerful but his power was probably half that of his father. The second brother then went and took his place as second in the kingdom by taking all but 1 of the youngest brothers countys. To stop the brotherly infighting i made my Nephew from the sister as earl of Northumbria and forced the youngest brother to hand over his title. And then The middle brother tried plotting to take the crown. Luckily i stopped the plot so that Harold the IV and Harold the V could become the great kings of Deira. I started as the earl of Lindsey and split from Mercia was a fun game!
One of the best ways to beat succession while still being feudal. Go Bohemia (already a really good start) and instantly research the Table of Princes technology.
Another tip: Some special formable titles give you primogeniture for free. The archduchy of Austria for example. Sure there aren't everywhere, but you have enough of them you get on in many playthroughs.
It's not primo, but Galycia-Volhynia is a small kingdom with election (at least it used to be, not sure now)
one more trick: if your inheritance is still partition, your grandson or granddaughter comes before your next son. but if you can change the laws for gender or elective, then switch back it resets to your next son. one way of doing it is taking a kingdom like galycia-Volhynia or Bohemia, anything with election, make primary, then switch back or destroy their law.
doing hunts and feasts also might trigger events or stress events, like someone kills them or they kill someone, so you can land secondary sons in baronies/cities and give enough money, if you do it later when you got gregarious, they will spend their own money for feast or hunt as well, and selecting highly stressful childhood traits might kill them. one time my bad firstborn was complete opposite of my grandfather and he conveniently killed him on a feast, they even had the same name :D
I like Celibacy and the perk that lets you know when you will die. When I know I’m gonna die I’ll just give all my lands to my heir. Ofc it’s not always that simple.
also note on the "hey maybe just let it split apart" sometimes having a neighbor whos of your religion and dynasty is a good thing. especially when your goal isnt making a giga empire. id say its almost necessary for reformed pagan feudal games were all your neighors are monotheists and tribes who will raid you the isntant you go to war.
You deserve more subscribers, thanks to you man i like your videos you are the best contenter for Ck3
One of my favorite play-throughs, playing as some Persian country, I had four heirs, so after about three hours I successfully murdered three of my children. Then upon my king's death, my empire broke up anyway because my children's children got the inheritance instead and went independent. So I re-loaded my save before killing my kids, played the same three hours or whatever until my king died, but when he did my sons got their inheritance but all stayed in my empire as my heir's vassals. So I absolutely did not need to kill them. Then my next succession my empire completely broke up and I quit.
I've never survived more than about 8 successions. I can handle them to a point, but eventually just as I'm getting close to conquering all of either western Africa, Iberia, Western Europe, Arabia, Persia and India, or Mongolia, eventually I get hit with a succession and my empire is cut in a third and everyone invades me and everyone revolts simultaneously. The only game I legit quit as too easy/boring was the Byzantines after restoring the Roman Empire, bringing all of Europe into Orthodoxy, and beginning to conquer the Middle East. But I think I needed a ton of piety to declare wars and had to save up for like 10 game years just to launch a county-level war, but absolutely no one could stand up to me in any wars.
Played Irish, thus Insular Christian , started with 1 son, no wife.so I married off asap before unpause.primary wife had 15 kids (mostly male).another 12 with the secondary wives.conquered Ireland to be King, and died leaving hell for my heir and his 27 siblings
Another means of solving potential inheritance crises is to give the titles to your heirs early before you die. one, you will no longer lose the titles on succession because you've already given them out. two, if you use this method while you're still alive then you have the ability to pick and choose who is getting what. so long as the title partitions are equal there is no succession issue. this means you can give your primary/preferred heir all of the really good titles and his brothers/sisters (if you went that route) get all the lame duck titles.
Please start a new series like a lil bit of tutorial you are a great btw... new fan here dont want your channel to die down.
I started a breeding program. There were dozens of possible heirs, my great grandson was the best. Took a while to disown all of them
your CK3 content and guides are dope dude
The HR training video music/outro at the end had me cracking up 😅😅
I think the dry tone of your voice contrasts well with the memes . The clips of the blokes chair collapsing didnt seem to fit with the vid , but did fit , and I couldnt work out if it was genius or you slapped it in and hoped for the best. Either way , it made me laugh . You explain well too , seems that the best way for keeping your lands is changing the succession laws or managing the titles you have so the split is minimal . Keep doing the vids. Dont know what you need to do to build up your subs but I bet theres plenty out there for you.
Haha thanks a lot man! Happy to make people laugh with dumb videos like that
I am new to this game, and all I can say is the succession system is absolutely asinine. If I have a kingdom over various duchies, my heir who inherits the kingdoms over those duchies should never lose those duchies. That makes no logical sense. Even when they’re not my family, my vassals just take all of my land when my character dies. It’s so frustrating and ridiculous.
You kinda skipped or I somehow missed it. But the BEST way to deal early on with Succession is to focus your control on One Duchy and have all or most of the castles under your control. Then when you have the right Title (Maybe King/Queen) and 1500 prestige just add election law to that duchy. Select YOUR main Heir and he/she will be the only one that can get enough votes to get that title. Side effect of that is that NO ONE can get any of the castle under that. All other kids will be left out. You can do it with Kingdom/Empire titles as well but it's harder to insure that you will out vote other's. :)
Great strat!
@@Zieley Thanks works great for main dutchy/counties ... Doesn't work well with Kingdoms if your Heir are women as it triggers like a 150 point pen to elect her.
Not all cultures have that law.
I like to have children late in life (50 when my bloodline is still weak and I havent got lots of dynasty perks, 70 when I expect to live to 100). Marry infertile women when I'm still in my 20-40s for the skills, when I'm ready to reproduce I'll do an epstein and get the best trait 16 yrs old. Sometimes I'll have lovers when I'm young, if she gives me daughters I'll legitimise them and matrilinial marry them off for dynasty prestige, not for sons cuz they'll be 60 when I die.
That way I usually only have 1-2 sons with good traits, I'll just disinherit to have 1 sole heir. The other son(s) I'll give some distant kingdom to and give him independence for dynasty prestige.
This is all good and all but you can also revoke titles after a revolt. I find this is a great way to situate your holdings. So when your character is new to the throne you can wait to marry siblings and kids and appear weak. Then join a war take a few losses and the revolt will take off. It helps to have money to buy mercenaries if need be
7:30 if you just imprison your child. There is a negotiate brelease option to force your child to take the vows. You will gain some tyranny. But you can easily make them a monk.....
Simple: give your heir an intrigue education and let them go to town like good old Vlad.
I just picked the primarily male heir option. And I looked for betroval brides as soo as they were born. My son, Rease was 2 years old brotroved to a 10 year old girl. He had quick trait she had pretty trait.lol
My favorite method is using concubines/lovers. Marry women who are infertile exclusively for alliances/renown and take concubines/find lovers to have children. You can break up with lovers and ditch concubines at will to ensure you don’t have unwanted extra kids.
I’m gonna cheese the celibacy now. I got into ck3 because of you I’m doing the Ireland start and I’m trying to create brittania
Really helped me out! Thanks!
Great video learned so much . Keep up the good work .
Grant as many duchies to your first son as you have before a second one is born, once a second one is born, give him another to make sure the player heir inherits your direct control counties.
Can confirm, the disinherit was a perfect last resort to cut out my primary heir who had a ton of negative traits and committed crimes and put things on a sole son just before my main character died
Yeah it really comes in clutch
Rule #2. Have less kids
*Me ending up with 10+ kids everytime*: "goddammit, should've pulled out sooner..."
Ended my first character after taking almost all of Ireland starting at 41 ending at 60 I had 3 sons, the one I had to play as was the eldest one which was 33 at the time of my death. My other son had inherited 1/3 of Ireland and became a Holy pacifist….
11:08 option 3: Yuo keep ALL Of YOUR counties, but YOUR heirs get a few Independent titles without any domain! This is the best option, as it Will be super easy!
King henry truly was a metagamer
im surpised utube hasnt taken this down for copyright XD that wii music takes me back
Yeh this is helpful, thank you.
7:48 Don't forget that traits like Temperate or Zealous also affect their acceptance. Educate your unwanted spawn well.
My slowly trying to keep the Eastern Roman Empire in one piece in 1078 after spending the past 200 years as the king of Greece before eventually becoming emperor.
My goal is to have as many kids as possible and trying to live an extremely long life so that if i hopefully conquer a number kingdoms i can die happily knowing my heirs will inherit massive amounts of land & power.
I finally united Kent, Wessex, and Cornwall after 60 years and built a huge revenue gain, just for my character to die when I declare a major war. Next thing you know the kingdom is split amongst his 3 sons, I lose the war, and all the planning wasted.
Could you make your more useless heirs knights and then recklessly attack someone unsupported to remove them?
Yes, but that method doesn't guarantee to kill them. They might just get caught, wounded or retreat respawning at your capital. Sometimes it takes many attempts to get them finally removed.
Great and entertaining video. This game is great
Great video. Thank you
10:09 the main heir does NOT get a claim to all titles, only the secondary heirs do.
Sooo hypothetically if I’m the only emperor for let’s say 400 years my empire won’t shatter completely. It will continue to pass down that way
i only had one holding after a succession or two, so i waged war on some of my siblings one by one to get it back. then had a successor with high stewardship and got to around +10 gold/month for a while, so that works too
works even better if your siblings are still little kids
So long as you aren't in a hurry, you can just throw them in dungeon and let them die from poor health.
Any tips on dealing with alliances with brothers? Would love to not have to deal with the attacking ally/breaking alliance malice.
Best thing you can do, you use your house head hook to get all children that you don´t want inheriting anything to become monks with the "ask to take the vows decision"
I like your editing. Just ignore those comment
Disinherit first, ask questions later.
Great video!
Great video. LOVE the memes.
I tend to go with step 4 for my tribal astral saves, and do nothing. I like the idea of roleplaying a real dynasty without the cheese.
Only problem is about one to two rulers in.
Everything goes swimmingly at first. Viking leadership. Massive levies and professional soldiers. Setting up new titles and kingdoms, until boooom, Kingdom of Jorvik baby!
Then you die. You lose most of your income because your lands get distributed. You can't afford your massive men-at-arms regiments. You can't raid as effectively. You get a war declared on your smaller army. You don't have any friends anywhere so your vassals and neighbours all happily watch you get stomped.
Then a faction declares an ultimatum and fucks you completely.
What to do?
After I became the head of the faith, converting your undesirable heirs to another religion before they become adults disinherits them through assigning them to a educator of another religion.
10:16 whenever I play, once the parent dies, my player heir has no claims on his siblings' titles... but they all have claims on everything.
The end of the CK3 trailer is so very Hollywood:
Dude on a horse charging a castle. Not a ladder or siege tower in sight. Sure, why not.
If your religion allows it you can put an heir on the council as a priest / shaman / etc etc. Thus he will be eliminated from the line of succession.
Thank you sir thank you so much
Disinherit ftw!
Thank you good video
8:53 The best way to do is imprison them and forcibly making them to accept being a monk. Caution you will get some tyranny. But it can be cleared within 5 years.
I just lost everything because my heir got cancer right after I died, and he did not have any heirs, so I was rushing to get him a son, then right before he died I had a newborn baby to play as, which was fucking terrible. soon after this newborn baby took over the empire, a powerful faction took over and installed a new emperor. With that, I ended up with a tiny piece of land that was constantly getting raided and I just rage quit. Was so frustrating to lose everything. I had lots of men-at-arms but couldnt really use them because they were too expensive with my new piece of land.
4:00 Although... someone (I think the Czechs) just immediately starts with House Seniority.