What I respect the most out of these 4 young men is the idea they're not afraid to admit there are words and ideas they do not understand. They search for knowledge and interested in the truth. That says a lot about an individual.
For real. A fool thinks he has all the answers, a wise man is always seeking more knowledge. edit: I could word that better. A wise man is open to being wrong, a stupid man is sure that hes right. lol
Gentlemen, I’m not your typical subscriber. I’m a white, 65 yr old grandmother. Your channel popped up on my feed, and I started watching. Your discussions, knowledge, interest in learning, and humor have convinced me that your generation isn’t a total loss. Keep up your conversations. Others are learning from them.
Me, too! I'm also a school teacher. I am always trying to get my kids to GTS! (I don't say it out loud, but Google That Sh*t!" You have a wealth of information at your fingertips. Show some initiative! Well done, Guys!
Thats gold. The most digital thing my grandma knows, is her Casio F91 watch, which she only wears so she can see when its time to pray, and she doesn't have to take it off, when shes cleansing before praying, coz its water resist :)
Yes! The way of the world has evolved over time. It’s easy to look back and judge how they did things but they didn’t have doordash let alone electricity. No internet. Watch 1883 and 1923...I’m not saying it’s factual but not that long ago we had to fight to survive and make or trade for everything we need to survive.
Exactly. Most of the arguments I hear about the past are arguments which amount to complaining about biology. "It's not fair! Men are stronger!" I'd say "Fair?" "Are you God? Did you design this universe? Who are you to complain about biology in that way? Now you can wish you were designed differently, but you are who you are and you just have to deal. "Fair" is God's realm. "Dealing" is ours. Deal with the cards you've got and stop whining about the cards you don't have.
Honestly speaking, I don't feel women in general have. It's a small subset of women who have, but like in everything, the vocal minority drown out the rest because they're so aggressive in their mentality and ideology.
@@rean4144 No one said otherwise. A self educated person would read that people could could be inspired to refuse to be blinded by liberal indoctrination rather than assuming what was said was that liberals could not self educate.
There are many, many conservatives who won't self educate and simply take what their peers, family, churches and those who share their views feed them. Willingness to question, challenge, learn and think has absolutely nothing to do with liberal v conservative. It's got to do with the need for people to believe they're right and those who don't agree with them are wrong...
@@jiffypophey1574 True statement, but if you are seeking knowledge and are willing to educate yourself AND have good moral values you will find yourself on the more conservative side. I myself had to walk away from the nonsense after many hours of diving deep into our history and found conservatism is more of a truth seeking platform vrs. Liberalism is more of a dead end road when it comes to seeking truth.
The only problem I have with your channel is that it isn't followed by tens of millions of people. You are truly an amazing example for the youth and I pray that you guys get the level of influence you deserve. Exceptional human beings.
The sheer amount of times you whipped out your phone , paused the video and googled something you didn’t understand was beautiful. We need more people moving past their egos to be able to move to the next level. You guys are exemplary
I remember reading a 100 pages book for a whole month. I had to google 80% of it to try to understand it better. I read it a couple of more times, still googled. lmao If you really want to understand something, you gotta read about it.
@@johnnybravo437 Yeah with a self help book I read that really did change my life, I took so much time to just think about the contents said since the book doesn't just tell you what you should do to change your negative thinking, but how you might have gotten there since that aspect is important in knowing how it happened and why it is changeable based on how it happened. Honestly that book did the research for me in that way and it was for the best too. With Peterson's book that I am still reading, I've had to reread a few sentences since I wanted to make absolute sure that I remembered it.
I'm a teacher, and what a blessing it would be if I ever found myself in a classroom filled with students like you guys, thirsty for knowledge and understanding.
I wish i knew the exact quote from Jordan Peterson, but it was close to this, "We are not equal because equal means the same and men and woman are not the same" and then he said something about if we except that and take on our roles and work together for the greater good, that being different isn't a weakness, but a strength! We dont need to be the same to both have value and be great!
I'm in my 50's (and a minority) I had a similar thirst for the truth in my 20's. Watching these young men looking for answers and questioning what they've been taught gives me incredible hope for our future together. I couldn't have more respect for these men.
I was thinking the same thing from a white woman's perspective--I see other YT videos where the college students just accept the ideas they want to hear and do not question even the doctrines they are fed that don't make sense. These guys ask questions & try to find the answers. Yay! for them.
@@victoriawitherup2342 Well, they're WAY off base about women and education: Women were ALWAYS part of the US education system. They BOTH may have only gone to the 8th grade, they both may have had separate entrances, but they BOTH knew the lyrics to "Mary Had a Little Lamb"...
I think you misheard what he said. He said "there's a difference between what you CAN'T say and what you Have to say". For instance, he's fine with being told that he CAN'T say the N word but he's not ok with being told that he HAS to say they/them
If more youth like you guys would research, study history, and listen without bias, this country would change in a lot of good ways. I love what y'all do!!
I like that you young dudes are up to learning .....women couldn't inherit money or own property once upon a time ...but you are right ,this is not holding women back now
@@whatadollslife But women were ALWAYS part of the US education system. They BOTH may have only gone to the 8th grade, they both may have had separate entrances, but they BOTH knew the lyrics to "Mary Had a Little Lamb"...
Yep - he's trying - the orange jacket guy is a knee-jerk feminist - lol. Why are they showing short snatches of Jordan, the comments are out of context and a very bad way to try to learn anything - the ability of young people to watch anything longer than two minutes if because of TikTok and that type of entertainment. Too many young people of today mainly have very short attention spans and very little comprehension. So sad.
Thank you, guys, for featuring Jordan Peterson on your show. While he may not be the easiest to understand initially, as he delves deeply into complex issues, I've found it worthwhile. I had to rewatch many of his debates, but the time invested has truly been rewarding.
Also I appreciate how a question is asked and Brandon looks this up and then you all talk about it. You guys seem to do well picking each others brains and have fun
They, the Canadian government, never came after him for saying anything controversial. They came after him for saying things that make sense. But to too many people the truth is controversial. He rose to fame for fighting against compelled speech. He's an amazing man.
Yep. And now they are forcing him to take "re-education" courses or lose his license. He plans to air all of it so everyone can see how authoritarian Canada is going.
As a retired teacher, I absolutely love to see young men that have a true passion for learning. I'm not ashamed to look up definitions of words I don't know. Good for you guys!!! Love to watch you!
Yeah, learning isn't bad, but when you're in your early 20s or mid-20s, I don't know how old these guys are, and you still think Karl Marx was Russian and Stalin was German. Yes exactly, that's why the city was also called Stalingrad, because Stalin lost there with his German troops against Hitler with his Russian troops. My goodness.
The amazing part of listening to someone like Jordan Peterson is not to agree or disagree with him, but to challenge your own opinions and thoughts, and not settle on a view point that society says you must have.
Exactly. He clearly wants this for anyone willing to take the time to listen and address themselves honestly with the sharp end of thier character building knives.
As others have said, huge respect to you guys for humbly looking up stuff you didn't know. We need more role models demonstrating this humility and showing that its okay to not know the answer, because that leads you to a place of learning and development as a human.
I have to say, as a mother of boys not very much (if at all) younger than you boys; I am incredibly impressed with your levels of open mindedness, intellect, respect, and desire for knowledge. I hope I’ve done as good a job raising my boys as your parents have done raising each of you. I mean that genuinely. Y’all give me true hope for our future as a nation.
@@marthaahluwalia829 I agree with you, and I think you made an important distinction when you said, "DESIRE for knowledge." As college kids, their base knowledge on these issues is severely lacking, which I don't mean as an insult, but rather an indictment against the American secondary school system. If these guys weren't taking it upon themselves to seek knowledge in these areas, they wouldn't have any, and I think that's indicative of a systemic problem.
As a father, I came to say the same thing. There's a lot of complicated ideas introduced in these clips, and these young men did the work to try and understand them. Good on them!
If you can "respect" the astounding level of ignorance displayed in this video, I have pity on your boys. They had African American Slaves in Jamestown... One of the dumbest things I've ever heard. The men of Jamestown were eating their pregnant wives because of the flu? Again, one of the most ignorant, and racist things I've ever heard. And you praise them? And the sadist thing is the chief dumb ass may have been telling the truth - he may have been taught this mis-information in school. I'll bet they all know that the Nazi's were German, but they don't know the Marxists made the Nazis look like amateurs. So they think their Marxist school teachers are good, but anyone opposing their sick ideology is bad. Your boys are doomed. Your leading them down the path to death
I really respect what you guys are doing. Always keeping an open mind and learning as much as you possibly can. We would have a better society if everybody looked at topics and issues as you do. SUBSCRIBED
Seeing you guys immediately try to gain an understanding of something you didn’t understand when Jordan said it was incredibly refreshing. Your guys’ thirst for knowledge is an incredible example for the current generation to follow. Good on you all!👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Well done guys! I love your approach and hunger to learn and understand. It is inspiring that you aren't just blindly watching but truly learning and understanding things outside your purview!
I love you guys! Before you accept something you find out what it is first - and as young as you seem to be - you seem to have a heart for "right" not "left." That is so refreshing from a group of black men! I just found you yesterday and admire you so much!
Let me just say that you guys give me hope for the younger generation. I'm so impressed with how engaged you young men are with substantive topics. I love how informed and curious you guys are! Keep it up!
I fully agree I first saw these guys they were reacting to rap devil and killshot I love the videos you guys put out and speak upon....it's a glimmer of light in a world that's becoming very dark very fast.....
What I love about the Cartier family is that whenever they hear an unfamiliar word, they stop and look it up, and learn its meaning. In three decades of teaching at a prestigious college, I don't know if I've ever seen one of my students do this. Bravo.
You young men being willing to broaden your knowledge and actually take the time to look things up.....has literally made me a fan and now a subscriber.
I'm just a 43 year old mom, but just wanna say. Y'all are making me proud. I have 8 sons, and a daughter, and I feel some mama pride as I see y'all pressing in to learn and understand and grow in political engagement. Keep going!
Just came to say you’re not just a mom. You have so many lives you were responsible for shaping. I have 4 and I am so thankful e every day I have been able to stay home and raise them for 25 years! You have 9! That’s a lot of responsibility! And I’m pretty sure your kids aren’t saying you’re just a mom. You’re probably the most important person in the world to them.
You guys are great… you’re at the very beginning of your learning and education of the world..! I love how you pause when you don’t know something… although the scary that you don’t know these things already at your age they should be taught in school.. clearly they’re not pressing the matter. “If you don’t learn, your history your doomed to repeat it”. Keep watching Jordan Peterson, he’s a good guy to open your eyes.
JP is one of my favorite people. He is so amazingly smart and everything he speaks about is from the heart. I've learned so much from him, he only speaks the truth, and he comes with receipts! You guys are in for a treat!
I found Jordans lectures about 10 years ago ,when he became well known and " famous " ,I wasn't one bit surprised. I'm so happy for young men that he exists .
Recently found these guys. Now I look forward to them showing up in my feed. I would love to talk with them over dinner and drink. Amazing channel! Thank you!
I think, if Jordan Peterson himself saw this video, he'd be proud of you guys, merely for the fact that you're not ashamed to inform yourself when knowledge or insights are missing, before engaging in a productive discussion... Possessing the correct information is the only way to have productive conversations and I humbly applaud you guys for trying your best to understand the complex wisdom of a man who studied human behaviour and history for more than 40y!
Dr. Peterson was saying that to suggest that men as a whole were oppressing women as a whole all throughout history is being reductionist. It terribly oversimplifies what actually happened throughout history. The fact of the matter was that, for the vast majority of history, ALL people had it tough (yes, even the wealthy, although money helps, of course) simply because LIFE was so tough. We take our modern conveniences for granted these days, and those who view history through the lens of modernity are simply misinterpreting history. The vast majority of humans who have existed throughout history never even considered such things as building and maintaining a patriarchy solely to oppress women because THEY WERE TOO BUSY TRYING TO SURVIVE! People need food, water, medicine, etc. first and foremost. The majority of people were illiterate/uneducated and far from wealthy enough to have others do their food/water collecting and construction/repairs/etc. for them. They didn't sit around all day thinking about the political ramifications of a patriarchy. That's absurd. Men and women BOTH toiled sun up to sun down just to eek out a meager existence. The "patriarchy," "toxic masculinity," "climate change," etc. are all first world problems. We have it so good in this country and this age that we literally MAKE UP problems because we don't have many REAL problematic issues. Have you ever noticed that all these supposedly ubiquitous "problems" don't exist in third world countries? Funny, that. Almost like they have more important things to worry about than some imaginary "oppressive patriarchy."
Basically, it's not just "men controlled women", but more precisely privileged men controlled lots of men & women most the time in history, so it wasn't about men VS women, it was just that some men were more privileged. Also there used to privileged women who controlled lots of men & women in history, like Cleopatra.
By far, I'd say this is one of my top 5 videos by you guys. It got you guys actually talking more than just music or comedy. It was something nice to see the youth and younger guys actually talking about these things of today and hearing your guys feedback on these topics. I'm 29 so it's at the tail end of my generation that's really dealing with this, but with you guys being early 20's, it's really interesting to hear you guys voice up on these matters and hear you guys get to talk more. It'd be amazing to hear you guys be able to have a podcast some day.
@@LovedByYou If they want to learn, or get another perspective, or maybe willing to get their ideas challenged, AND its what they wanna do, they should do it :)
I have met with Dr Jordan Peterson 3 times at different shows. Each time he will take time to actually talk with you and listen to you if you need it if something is bothering you after one of his shows. He will do photos or sign stuff but he genuinely cares are people and especially how young men are greatly ignored in society and suffer in silence.
That whole interview with that girl from GQ is amazing. He pretty much obliterates her entire worldview during that interview lol. There's another one with Kathy Newman? I think that's her name, where she like ignores every answer he gives and tries to pick key words out and turn it against him. He shreds her too lol
I just wanted to say as someone turning 40, whose education system failed me( we didn't have the internet). I am very inspired by these young men, pausing and learning on the spot. Never stop
The education system didn't fail us because we didn't have the internet, it failed us because we had teachers that wanted to teach us what to think instead of HOW to think. I had a few good teachers who didn't try to turn the class into drones, but only a precious few.
@@trusound170 I mean I graduated just as the internet was coming out. But I was thoroughly taught how to critically think. Many teachers made it very clear they were there to teach us how to learn and how to critically think. Not just to regurgitate memorized knowledge. I had nothing but amazing experiences with my teachers. Now I know that's subjective and varies. But all this seething hate towards academia is insane. Half the country thinks they can pull their kids out of school and do a better job. Disregarding the fact both parents work full time jobs just to make ends meet. I mean last week I watched a video of over 50 teachers coming together IN THEIR FREE TIME to discuss ChatGPT and AI. They discussed how they can use it and adapt to the technology to best benefit the students. To teach them to use it as a tool and not a solution. To discuss how lessons plans will more than ever will have to focus on critical thinking skills. They didnt discuss how evil it was or how people are going to use it to cheat or how they will have to do even more work making the assignments harder to use AI to help with. No.. they talked about what they can do to adapt that would best benefit the students.
@@Ljrobison The public schools today are atrocious. I have home schooled my kids from the start. I wouldn't put them in public school if you paid me to do it. However, NOT everyone is cut out to school their kids at home. The quality of education can be excellent as long as the parents aren't just doing some bare minimum to get by. There are some good teachers out there. The problem is you don't know what kind of teacher you have until you get stuck with a bad one. And some districts are rife with the woke, self righteous, identity politics that seems to be taking the place of actual education. The schools need to worry les about sexual identification and more about education.
@@trusound170 that's a very good point. I had a few good ones as well. In 97 was the last straw for me. I got into an argument with my geography teacher. Instead of doing what she said explicitly, I went online and read about the area, then printed it and handed it in. On my way out the security guard yelled if you walk out that door you can't come back ! I skipped school and played PlayStation and N64 talking about video games. My teachers generation said " that's going nowhere and a waste of time!" I ended up going to school to learn computer science pursuing video games. Worked at Rockstar games ( my dream) helped design Red dead redemption. Made more money than any of them and I had to go against everything they taught me unfortunately. Thank God for the internet.
@@tylerriojas6250 There's a great success story! I love how you handled that teacher as well. I always say the best teachers are capable of being able to handle being wrong.
Okay, this is the second video that I’ve watched of you guys (first was your reaction video to legendary rappers Ben Shapiro + Tom MacDonald 😂) & I absolutely love y’all. I’ve been following Peterson for years (even finally got to see him live a couple weeks ago). He is an absolute treasure, so much practical wisdom. But more than anything, I love how y’all just fire up the videos, pause to discuss & Google if you need to & just try to work out what he’s saying. I’d suspect y’all are about my son’s age & you give me hope for your generation. I subscribed & I’m looking forward to seeing more. Love from Missouri ❤
I’m a dad and I feel like I’m watching you guys grow up. The fact that you pushed back on a educated man of that pedigree.. gives me hope. You agreed and disagreed and I love it
Yeah its nice to see close brothers. I have three sons (2, 4, 8) this makes me think of them watchin youtube at these guys age and being able to shoot the shit without getting all butthurt about being wrong lol. Right now its basically, the 8 year old bossing the 4 year old around, the 4 year old trying to be like his older brother, and still be like his younger brother and get away with baby shit, and the 2 year old, beating the shit out of the older two. lol Im sure it was similar when you guys were little haha
@@realchilldude1271 Are all of them brothers? Or are some of them cousins and brothers? Or brothers/nephews/cousins? LOL. I always wished I knew who was who.😁
As a young man i have a question. I've been told that women unknowingly played a huge role in their own oppression so the wouldn't know how to help. But I don't believe that as their was 1st and 2nd wave feminism that made huge changes. To that, they (the partners of my mates) say its not that it's just all the little things women did on a day to day basis. But won't give any examples. I don't believe that but I also believe I could potentially be wrong. I don't want to be on the wrong side, but I also don't want my friends to be on the wrong side due to misinformation, but I also don't want to lose them because I couldn't articulate my point in way that would atleast make them want to do their own deep research. Im asking the woman around me but most seem to just laugh it off as if the people making those claims are idiots, but they simply aren't because I've seen them do intelligent things before. They just seem mislead in a few area's of life, but i think we all have lies we believe about the world around us and that's part of life is uncoving truths. Any my question is do you agree with the first statement? And do you have any advice?
@@flowkimontana3120 If you don't mind my input I'd say taking sides or "being on the right side" is likely best avoided. Thinking that way only feeds the culture war which is getting increasingly convoluted with everyone giving their views on other peoples behaviours/group identities/ideologies etc. Focus on your actions and emotions and the motivations behind them, if your friends do something that lacks integrity then and only then call them out on it. It's the policing how each other thinks that is the problem, it would be more helpful to think about how we act and the motivations behind our actions. We can debate of course but it gets to a point where we're debating based on information we can't completely verify. Much simpler to just be a decent person. As for the oppression thing it's the same in individuals as with groups. If you see a person who is stressed, anxious and generally negative they are oppressing themselves or have a perception which allowed them to feel oppressed in some form. Freedom is freedom from anxiety, doubt, guilt and shame i.e all forms of fear which is brought on by our unconscious beliefs.
@@flowkimontana3120 I saw a meme a while back that said “I didn’t ask to be liberated and have to get a job” it was funny to me how it pointed out women used to be taken care of by the men in their life. We also used to work as a tribe with our extended family to make sure everyone was provided for. Women worked just not for pay their skills of being able to produce heirs was important for survival and depending on how poor they were she took care of the home front while the men fought and hunted to protect and provide. Now it takes two incomes to survive and the immediate family is fractured and no longer work together to keep provide for their tribe. The home is constantly in chaos because everyone is working and can’t clean and often living pay check to pay check and can’t afford a house cleaner. I’m thankful for evolution of our society and the women before me that fought for my right to vote, own property and own a business but I do wish we could still survive on only one income so that one parent could be holding down the home front if they wanted while the other goes out and earns the money.
@Chris P. Bacon I’m a gen x and have seen the disappearing family values and unit in my time. Even my own extended family is split on whether we should celebrate certain holidays together anymore. That was never a question 15+ years ago...we always used to gather share food and stories and hugs and to on about our merry way. This year “Thanksgiving” was labeled a family gathering and held one week early and Christmas was skipped. I was sad and did miss the times when family values and time with family was more important. I’ll even say not just families...I miss socializing with friends and neighbors. From Super Bowl parties, block parties, home interior and Mary Kay parties to even just hosting a friend or family member for dinner...it feels like that has all gotten left behind and is a thing of the past. Families are everywhere but the family unit is a IMHO disappearing.
@Chris P. Bacon there are a few of us out of state rebels who are booking holiday gathering spots for next year at the local community building so anyone who wants can celebrate Christmas and Thanksgiving. We shall see. I’ve enjoyed interacting with you today even when we disagree on something. Not that my opinion should matter but I appreciate your open conversation.
I agree. I’d also like to point you in the direction of Dr. Thomas Sowell. Written many books and is a world renowned economist and scholarly academic. Conservatives hold him in high regard because he spits intellectual facts. He’s an African American that grew up in Harem in the 40s-and 50’s then went to college and excelled. He was sucked into Marxism early in college by some Black Panthers that came he met but eventually worked in government on a side job and saw the reality of how things were ran and where the real problems consisted.
Jiddu Krishnamurti is even greater. JBP is still a boy in comparison (not trying to downplay Peterson's greatness). You should have a listen to him sometime.
Woman here. One of the worst things women did to other women was to convince them that if you are a stay at home mom, you are “less than” working mothers. I would have LOVED to stay at home with my children. It I was convinced I needed a career.
And your children would have benefited greatly if you stayed home with them. Now everyone has to have one or two jobs and the children are suffering. They want their parents to be there. I think motherhood (and fatherhood) is the most difficult job and there is no compensation. It doesn’t make sense to me.
Jordan is eye opening and amazing. The way his mind works and how he is able to break things down is very effective. One point that keeps going through my mind on repeat- women didn’t want to vote back in the day because being able to vote meant you were eligible to be drafted into war and required to leave your family and home to fight. Thank you guys for your content!
People in my family live a long time, I was babysat by my great-grandparents who were born in the 1800s, and had many relatives that grew up throughout the early 20th century. The idea that women were oppressed is nonsense to anyone who met these women. They weren't quiet, they weren't meek, they didn't ask permission for anything, and they were happy that men took on the responsibilities that traditionally went to men. And the men didn't talk down to them or treat them like children, either. They both had their roles and were both very happy with them. Much happier than people today who all have depression, anxiety, identity issues, etc.
It’s incredible how this man was once just standing in a classroom defending his right not to have to change his speech to being plastered everywhere being interviewed about every controversial topic he can have any opinion on. The social foot on your neck demanding you align is wild
I have so much respect for you four young men. You are doing what I wish the rest of your generation would do. You are doing research and listening to speakers that are educated. You are looking up terms that you may not understand. Most of all you are trying to seek the knowledge and make up your own minds. You are not just following the crowd or group mentality. Again much respect. ❤️👍✌️🇺🇸
@@alenahawke475 They have restored my faith in the younger generation. These kids literally have to almost rebel against what is being taught in oir schools.
Love that you guys are learning new things from different people and looking up the definitions of words. It's very important to understand the subject, keep watching more.
I don’t like celebrity culture and idolizing people with no baring on my own life, but I can honestly say Jordan Peterson has changed my life to the point that I have true love for the man.
One of the primary ideals that I have taught both of my boys is to educate yourself. Their education is their responsibility. These young men are the epitome of that. They have taken that responsibility to further themselves and those around them. Kudos
First time coming across this channel, and I am aware this video is well over a year old, but damn these 4 individuals are awesome. I love how they have a great back and forth about the topics, let alone that as soon as they hear something they are not knowledgeable on, they look it up. I will be following this channel, these 4 are great.
Please take the time to listen to some of his full speeches because this is just bits and pieces. This guy's communication skills Rock. The way he stands in his own truth is just amazing
I don't know how I came across this video, but I absolutely love watching you guys taking in all the information, and then having questions, and discussing your views/thoughts! My entire life changed when I started asking questions, instead of believing everything I was ever told.
All is not lost!!!! Some young men ARE interested in the profound and not only the entertaining! Thank you for being a good example of young men trying to enhance their understanding and use their brain!
Hello guys. I am a 67-year-old, moderate, white, American woman and I love watching your videos. I enjoy the majority of your comments, your common sense attitudes, the way in which you talk to each other, and that you like Bill Burr. He is outrageous and hilarious at the same time. As long as there are more people (men and women) like you in America I think our country will be alright. I've had some fears this past year about the future of America. When I listen to you and see what you are watching and talking about I feel safer than I felt previously. I, too, watch Jordan Peterson, Ben Shapiro, Bill Maher, Glen Beck, and others.
What I respect the most out of these 4 young men is the idea they're not afraid to admit there are words and ideas they do not understand. They search for knowledge and interested in the truth. That says a lot about an individual.
@ Wicked Ways these are literally the few of the signs of intelligence.
Absolutely, there is nothing wrong in admitting you don't know something. It's when you don't pursue knowledge that the problem lies.
Facts. Great channel.
For real. A fool thinks he has all the answers, a wise man is always seeking more knowledge.
edit: I could word that better. A wise man is open to being wrong, a stupid man is sure that hes right. lol
I agree with you totally.
Bro in pink is a clever man. He does understand how "back then" is different than how things work "today"
Yes, he was on point.
You mean how things DONT work today
He is clearly the smartest of the group
Gentlemen, I’m not your typical subscriber. I’m a white, 65 yr old grandmother. Your channel popped up on my feed, and I started watching. Your discussions, knowledge, interest in learning, and humor have convinced me that your generation isn’t a total loss. Keep up your conversations. Others are learning from them.
Me, too! I'm also a school teacher. I am always trying to get my kids to GTS! (I don't say it out loud, but Google That Sh*t!" You have a wealth of information at your fingertips. Show some initiative! Well done, Guys!
Me too
Thats gold. The most digital thing my grandma knows, is her Casio F91 watch, which she only wears so she can see when its time to pray, and she doesn't have to take it off, when shes cleansing before praying, coz its water resist :)
Hi grandpa!
your generation failed our generation
Men and women worked together in order to survive the dangerous conditions of the world. That's basically what he was saying.
^^ THIS
Yes! The way of the world has evolved over time. It’s easy to look back and judge how they did things but they didn’t have doordash let alone electricity. No internet. Watch 1883 and 1923...I’m not saying it’s factual but not that long ago we had to fight to survive and make or trade for everything we need to survive.
Exactly. Most of the arguments I hear about the past are arguments which amount to complaining about biology. "It's not fair! Men are stronger!" I'd say "Fair?" "Are you God? Did you design this universe? Who are you to complain about biology in that way? Now you can wish you were designed differently, but you are who you are and you just have to deal. "Fair" is God's realm. "Dealing" is ours. Deal with the cards you've got and stop whining about the cards you don't have.
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@Chris P. Bacon Just come out and say that the information is over your head.
Im a woman and i think Jordan Peterson is absolutely brilliant. And he's 100% correct about women have used feminism to become our own worst enemy.
Agree - I’m a female engineer so glad about some of the feminist changes. But then feminism went off the rails. Modern feminists are crazy.
Honestly speaking, I don't feel women in general have. It's a small subset of women who have, but like in everything, the vocal minority drown out the rest because they're so aggressive in their mentality and ideology.
I offended three people at work when i made that statement and was threatened with termination😁
@@natasharostova5186 #1 rule dude! Never discuss politics or religion at work lol.
@@Grigeral well i posted it in the DEI slack channel of all places 😁
I'm not sure if you guys realize it or not, but you are inspiring so many people to self educate and refuse to be blinded by liberal indoctrination.
They are doing the lords work.
You can be self educated and liberal
@@rean4144 No one said otherwise. A self educated person would read that people could could be inspired to refuse to be blinded by liberal indoctrination rather than assuming what was said was that liberals could not self educate.
There are many, many conservatives who won't self educate and simply take what their peers, family, churches and those who share their views feed them. Willingness to question, challenge, learn and think has absolutely nothing to do with liberal v conservative. It's got to do with the need for people to believe they're right and those who don't agree with them are wrong...
@@jiffypophey1574 True statement, but if you are seeking knowledge and are willing to educate yourself AND have good moral values you will find yourself on the more conservative side. I myself had to walk away from the nonsense after many hours of diving deep into our history and found conservatism is more of a truth seeking platform vrs. Liberalism is more of a dead end road when it comes to seeking truth.
I followed this man from day 1 & I'm happy to see the younger generation checking him out.
The only problem I have with your channel is that it isn't followed by tens of millions of people. You are truly an amazing example for the youth and I pray that you guys get the level of influence you deserve. Exceptional human beings.
The sheer amount of times you whipped out your phone , paused the video and googled something you didn’t understand was beautiful. We need more people moving past their egos to be able to move to the next level. You guys are exemplary
I remember reading a 100 pages book for a whole month. I had to google 80% of it to try to understand it better. I read it a couple of more times, still googled. lmao If you really want to understand something, you gotta read about it.
The amount of times that they have to look something up is also scary. What do you learn in school? Anything?
@@johnnybravo437 Yeah with a self help book I read that really did change my life, I took so much time to just think about the contents said since the book doesn't just tell you what you should do to change your negative thinking, but how you might have gotten there since that aspect is important in knowing how it happened and why it is changeable based on how it happened. Honestly that book did the research for me in that way and it was for the best too. With Peterson's book that I am still reading, I've had to reread a few sentences since I wanted to make absolute sure that I remembered it.
I can't agree more!
The education today sucks. I knew this back in grammar school. School is a brainwashing camp.
I'm a teacher, and what a blessing it would be if I ever found myself in a classroom filled with students like you guys, thirsty for knowledge and understanding.
😊
That is true, they are sincerely trying to learn more.
I wish as a student I was thirsty for knowledge like I am now, and like these young men are!!!
The world is thirsty for teachers who would have taught kids all of this in the first place.
Soooo true!
You young men make my heart swell with pride. I hope you continue asking questions, research, and learn.
I wish i knew the exact quote from Jordan Peterson, but it was close to this, "We are not equal because equal means the same and men and woman are not the same" and then he said something about if we except that and take on our roles and work together for the greater good, that being different isn't a weakness, but a strength! We dont need to be the same to both have value and be great!
I'm in my 50's (and a minority) I had a similar thirst for the truth in my 20's. Watching these young men looking for answers and questioning what they've been taught gives me incredible hope for our future together.
I couldn't have more respect for these men.
Well said, Joe Mahma lol ♥️
Joe mahma would be proud
I was thinking the same thing from a white woman's perspective--I see other YT videos where the college students just accept the ideas they want to hear and do not question even the doctrines they are fed that don't make sense. These guys ask questions & try to find the answers. Yay! for them.
@@victoriawitherup2342 Well, they're WAY off base about women and education: Women were ALWAYS part of the US education system. They BOTH may have only gone to the 8th grade, they both may have had separate entrances, but they BOTH knew the lyrics to "Mary Had a Little Lamb"...
Me too
“There’s a difference between what you CAN say and what you HAVE to say”
Perfect
I think you misheard what he said. He said "there's a difference between what you CAN'T say and what you Have to say".
For instance, he's fine with being told that he CAN'T say the N word but he's not ok with being told that he HAS to say they/them
@@holiconabeat this
Women weren’t aloud to have their own money or property and her husband could hit her!
This channel is unreal. All my little cousins look up to these guys now . Absolutely love it. Lfg
What does Lfg means?
I can’t express how much I love this video. The hunger for knowledge and understanding is such a WONDERFUL thing to see. Great job guys ❤️
If more youth like you guys would research, study history, and listen without bias, this country would change in a lot of good ways. I love what y'all do!!
I like that you young dudes are up to learning .....women couldn't inherit money or own property once upon a time ...but you are right ,this is not holding women back now
@@whatadollslife But women were ALWAYS part of the US education system. They BOTH may have only gone to the 8th grade, they both may have had separate entrances, but they BOTH knew the lyrics to "Mary Had a Little Lamb"...
The guy in the pink hoodie is very intelligent and he’s very good at elaborating his thoughts to his friends.
Yep - he's trying - the orange jacket guy is a knee-jerk feminist - lol. Why are they showing short snatches of Jordan, the comments are out of context and a very bad way to try to learn anything - the ability of young people to watch anything longer than two minutes if because of TikTok and that type of entertainment. Too many young people of today mainly have very short attention spans and very little comprehension. So sad.
Agreed
He is always the most inquisitive and patient.
He specially have the intelligence to search for things when he's not sure... and that in our generation is a huge quality
Yes!!! What's his name? I have such a crush on him 🤭😆
1:20 This young man on the left with the magenta hoodie on is doing a real good job breaking down definitions. I always like when he chimes in 👏
8:10 and he does it again... breaks down Marxism.
Thank you, guys, for featuring Jordan Peterson on your show. While he may not be the easiest to understand initially, as he delves deeply into complex issues, I've found it worthwhile. I had to rewatch many of his debates, but the time invested has truly been rewarding.
Also I appreciate how a question is asked and Brandon looks this up and then you all talk about it. You guys seem to do well picking each others brains and have fun
Great! Thank you. Now I know which one is Brandon. I think I know the names of all four now
I agree. I love how you wereopen minded, open to looking things up, clarifying,. Great conversation.
They, the Canadian government, never came after him for saying anything controversial. They came after him for saying things that make sense. But to too many people the truth is controversial. He rose to fame for fighting against compelled speech. He's an amazing man.
You mean they came after him for wanting to use speech to discriminate, discredit, and harass.
Yep. And now they are forcing him to take "re-education" courses or lose his license. He plans to air all of it so everyone can see how authoritarian Canada is going.
I love the honesty and pure intentions of these guys.
Love seeing 4 young black men embracing Jordan Peterson and opening their mind to new things instead of going with what the “media” says.
I love how you guys look up the definitions of words and concepts. This is essential in order to have an intellectual conversation. Keep it up, guys!
I agree! We need more people like you guys I. This world!
As a retired teacher, I absolutely love to see young men that have a true passion for learning. I'm not ashamed to look up definitions of words I don't know. Good for you guys!!! Love to watch you!
fair enough, but every single person of a similar age should already know 99% of this stuff. Our public schools are jokes.
@@paineintheass233 But has nobody heard "Mary Had a Little Lamb"? Women have been educated in the US all along.
@@paineintheass233 I knew this stuff probably because of my age, but if one doesn't know it, I applaud him/her for learning.
Yeah, learning isn't bad, but when you're in your early 20s or mid-20s, I don't know how old these guys are, and you still think Karl Marx was Russian and Stalin was German.
Yes exactly, that's why the city was also called Stalingrad, because Stalin lost there with his German troops against Hitler with his Russian troops. My goodness.
You guys are great. I'm a 60 year old teacher and I just love to see you working through these ideas. Keep up the good work men!
“Who’s this guy coming at me with the ‘isms’?” Brilliant! 😂
The amazing part of listening to someone like Jordan Peterson is not to agree or disagree with him, but to challenge your own opinions and thoughts, and not settle on a view point that society says you must have.
I wish I could give 1000 thumbs up. He makes you think, and that is very powerful. People trying to cancel him are morons.
Well said
Exactly. He clearly wants this for anyone willing to take the time to listen and address themselves honestly with the sharp end of thier character building knives.
and relentlessly pursue truth as well.
@@daniellooney8878 They are also cowards. If you can't come up with a decent rebuttal, just try to shut them down!
This man is someone I have the utmost respect for he drove my father out of his depressive spiral and I can't thank him enough for that
As others have said, huge respect to you guys for humbly looking up stuff you didn't know.
We need more role models demonstrating this humility and showing that its okay to not know the answer, because that leads you to a place of learning and development as a human.
Can’t get enough of these guys! Love watching them work things out together.
I have to say, as a mother of boys not very much (if at all) younger than you boys; I am incredibly impressed with your levels of open mindedness, intellect, respect, and desire for knowledge. I hope I’ve done as good a job raising my boys as your parents have done raising each of you. I mean that genuinely. Y’all give me true hope for our future as a nation.
Well said and I totally agree!!!! GOD BLESS YOU AND KEEP BEING GOOD SMART YOUNG MEN!!!!!
@@marthaahluwalia829 I agree with you, and I think you made an important distinction when you said, "DESIRE for knowledge."
As college kids, their base knowledge on these issues is severely lacking, which I don't mean as an insult, but rather an indictment against the American secondary school system. If these guys weren't taking it upon themselves to seek knowledge in these areas, they wouldn't have any, and I think that's indicative of a systemic problem.
As a father, I came to say the same thing. There's a lot of complicated ideas introduced in these clips, and these young men did the work to try and understand them. Good on them!
If you can "respect" the astounding level of ignorance displayed in this video, I have pity on your boys. They had African American Slaves in Jamestown... One of the dumbest things I've ever heard. The men of Jamestown were eating their pregnant wives because of the flu? Again, one of the most ignorant, and racist things I've ever heard. And you praise them? And the sadist thing is the chief dumb ass may have been telling the truth - he may have been taught this mis-information in school. I'll bet they all know that the Nazi's were German, but they don't know the Marxists made the Nazis look like amateurs. So they think their Marxist school teachers are good, but anyone opposing their sick ideology is bad. Your boys are doomed. Your leading them down the path to death
Jordans work had saved my life. I hope he does all of that same work for everyone who encounters him.
How so?
I really respect what you guys are doing. Always keeping an open mind and learning as much as you possibly can. We would have a better society if everybody looked at topics and issues as you do. SUBSCRIBED
I have so much respect for you all and these discussions. Slowly working my way through all your videos... Mind blown.
Seeing you guys immediately try to gain an understanding of something you didn’t understand when Jordan said it was incredibly refreshing. Your guys’ thirst for knowledge is an incredible example for the current generation to follow. Good on you all!👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Just have to hope that they listen to right kind of people.
Jordan Peterson is someone that everyone needs to listen to. So great for young men and has amazing advice
Well done guys! I love your approach and hunger to learn and understand. It is inspiring that you aren't just blindly watching but truly learning and understanding things outside your purview!
I love you guys! Before you accept something you find out what it is first - and as young as you seem to be - you seem to have a heart for "right" not "left." That is so refreshing from a group of black men! I just found you yesterday and admire you so much!
Let me just say that you guys give me hope for the younger generation. I'm so impressed with how engaged you young men are with substantive topics. I love how informed and curious you guys are! Keep it up!
I agree with you 99.999%.
We need our youth to get like this!
I fully agree I first saw these guys they were reacting to rap devil and killshot I love the videos you guys put out and speak upon....it's a glimmer of light in a world that's becoming very dark very fast.....
you read my mind and said what I would so TY!
What I love about the Cartier family is that whenever they hear an unfamiliar word, they stop and look it up, and learn its meaning. In three decades of teaching at a prestigious college, I don't know if I've ever seen one of my students do this. Bravo.
My dad says, if you look it up, you'll never forget.
You young men being willing to broaden your knowledge and actually take the time to look things up.....has literally made me a fan and now a subscriber.
What joy to watch you young men learn. Keep up the good work.
Jordan Peterson is so amazing. He totally changed my life and millions of others.
Same
I'm just a 43 year old mom, but just wanna say. Y'all are making me proud. I have 8 sons, and a daughter, and I feel some mama pride as I see y'all pressing in to learn and understand and grow in political engagement. Keep going!
Bless your heart, Jess. Raising 9 kids? You must be super woman. My wife and I have our hands full with 2. lol
@@ArcaneTurbulence my hair gets grayer by the year, but so much multiplied joy too! However many kids any of us have, it's hard work but worth it.
9?? Ma'am, my hat goes off to you!! I'm momma to 3 and I can barely keep up 😂😂
Shaping the lives of 9 children is pretty darn important..your not "just" a anything . 😊
Just came to say you’re not just a mom. You have so many lives you were responsible for shaping. I have 4 and I am so thankful e every day I have been able to stay home and raise them for 25 years! You have 9! That’s a lot of responsibility! And I’m pretty sure your kids aren’t saying you’re just a mom. You’re probably the most important person in the world to them.
As an anti feminist, traditional female I'm delighted I found this channel. You guys are so precious 💕. I'm subscribed!! Great video 💯
Love every video-I’m so glad I found y’all on here!!
Jordan Peterson has brought me and so many other out of some dark places and is a gift to humanity
Indeed he is, he help me as a woman understands I need to appreciate men more!
Please do more Jordan B. Peterson, this man truly cares about other people and he's willing to put his career on the line.
D Douglas Murray too.
I came across your music reactions and enjoyed it, more impressed by these conversations. Thanks for sharing.
You guys are great… you’re at the very beginning of your learning and education of the world..! I love how you pause when you don’t know something… although the scary that you don’t know these things already at your age they should be taught in school.. clearly they’re not pressing the matter. “If you don’t learn, your history your doomed to repeat it”. Keep watching Jordan Peterson, he’s a good guy to open your eyes.
JP is one of my favorite people. He is so amazingly smart and everything he speaks about is from the heart. I've learned so much from him, he only speaks the truth, and he comes with receipts! You guys are in for a treat!
Yeah, I'm quite sad that they are going on a witch hunt against him just because he doesn't want to bow down to the new lgbtq propaganda
I found Jordans lectures about 10 years ago ,when he became well known and " famous " ,I wasn't one bit surprised.
I'm so happy for young men that he exists .
I was listening before he blew up too. He changed my life.
Jordan Peterson is a good man but when challenged, a concise beast emerges.
Its great to see your unbiased curiosity and your evolution towards knowledge.
Recently found these guys. Now I look forward to them showing up in my feed. I would love to talk with them over dinner and drink. Amazing channel! Thank you!
I think, if Jordan Peterson himself saw this video, he'd be proud of you guys, merely for the fact that you're not ashamed to inform yourself when knowledge or insights are missing, before engaging in a productive discussion... Possessing the correct information is the only way to have productive conversations and I humbly applaud you guys for trying your best to understand the complex wisdom of a man who studied human behaviour and history for more than 40y!
Dr. Peterson was saying that to suggest that men as a whole were oppressing women as a whole all throughout history is being reductionist. It terribly oversimplifies what actually happened throughout history. The fact of the matter was that, for the vast majority of history, ALL people had it tough (yes, even the wealthy, although money helps, of course) simply because LIFE was so tough. We take our modern conveniences for granted these days, and those who view history through the lens of modernity are simply misinterpreting history. The vast majority of humans who have existed throughout history never even considered such things as building and maintaining a patriarchy solely to oppress women because THEY WERE TOO BUSY TRYING TO SURVIVE! People need food, water, medicine, etc. first and foremost. The majority of people were illiterate/uneducated and far from wealthy enough to have others do their food/water collecting and construction/repairs/etc. for them. They didn't sit around all day thinking about the political ramifications of a patriarchy. That's absurd. Men and women BOTH toiled sun up to sun down just to eek out a meager existence. The "patriarchy," "toxic masculinity," "climate change," etc. are all first world problems. We have it so good in this country and this age that we literally MAKE UP problems because we don't have many REAL problematic issues. Have you ever noticed that all these supposedly ubiquitous "problems" don't exist in third world countries? Funny, that. Almost like they have more important things to worry about than some imaginary "oppressive patriarchy."
Well said.
Basically, it's not just "men controlled women", but more precisely privileged men controlled lots of men & women most the time in history, so it wasn't about men VS women, it was just that some men were more privileged. Also there used to privileged women who controlled lots of men & women in history, like Cleopatra.
Perfectly said!
Yes, well said.
Great vid guys. Love listening to you discuss the issues.
I wish more people were like these guys. Willing to engage with new ideas
If this is you're first time hearing Dr. Peterson then you have many hours of gems to follow. Continue on.
You guys just gained a ton of fans! It’s refreshing to witness young adults being open-minded.
I really like how you guys have thoughtful conversations about these important issues.
I love these 4 guys. I totally respect their desire to learn and they make it fun.
By far, I'd say this is one of my top 5 videos by you guys.
It got you guys actually talking more than just music or comedy. It was something nice to see the youth and younger guys actually talking about these things of today and hearing your guys feedback on these topics. I'm 29 so it's at the tail end of my generation that's really dealing with this, but with you guys being early 20's, it's really interesting to hear you guys voice up on these matters and hear you guys get to talk more. It'd be amazing to hear you guys be able to have a podcast some day.
Did pinkie say due to white men. He should watch videos of how African tribesmen feel about the man's role.
Actually, he identifies as a “Liberal”
I truly hope they don’t go into politics, it’s so unnecessary and it’s already being done.
Shearing a lot knowledge lots of knowledge
@@LovedByYou If they want to learn, or get another perspective, or maybe willing to get their ideas challenged, AND its what they wanna do, they should do it :)
I have met with Dr Jordan Peterson 3 times at different shows. Each time he will take time to actually talk with you and listen to you if you need it if something is bothering you after one of his shows. He will do photos or sign stuff but he genuinely cares are people and especially how young men are greatly ignored in society and suffer in silence.
How absolutely awesome. I wish I could have been there to see him as well ♡ He's such a wonderful man!
Well said
I'm jealous... would love to meet JBP and speak with him for just a few minutes.
I am seeing Dr Peterson in May, luv that guy (I am a 63 year old woman). You guys rock!
I wish I could have him as a PhD mentor.
thanks you guys put things in a great perspective
You boys are the shit, much love. Please keep doin what ya'll are doin!!
That whole interview with that girl from GQ is amazing. He pretty much obliterates her entire worldview during that interview lol. There's another one with Kathy Newman? I think that's her name, where she like ignores every answer he gives and tries to pick key words out and turn it against him. He shreds her too lol
I just wanted to say as someone turning 40, whose education system failed me( we didn't have the internet). I am very inspired by these young men, pausing and learning on the spot. Never stop
The education system didn't fail us because we didn't have the internet, it failed us because we had teachers that wanted to teach us what to think instead of HOW to think. I had a few good teachers who didn't try to turn the class into drones, but only a precious few.
@@trusound170 I mean I graduated just as the internet was coming out. But I was thoroughly taught how to critically think. Many teachers made it very clear they were there to teach us how to learn and how to critically think. Not just to regurgitate memorized knowledge. I had nothing but amazing experiences with my teachers. Now I know that's subjective and varies. But all this seething hate towards academia is insane. Half the country thinks they can pull their kids out of school and do a better job. Disregarding the fact both parents work full time jobs just to make ends meet.
I mean last week I watched a video of over 50 teachers coming together IN THEIR FREE TIME to discuss ChatGPT and AI. They discussed how they can use it and adapt to the technology to best benefit the students. To teach them to use it as a tool and not a solution. To discuss how lessons plans will more than ever will have to focus on critical thinking skills. They didnt discuss how evil it was or how people are going to use it to cheat or how they will have to do even more work making the assignments harder to use AI to help with. No.. they talked about what they can do to adapt that would best benefit the students.
@@Ljrobison The public schools today are atrocious. I have home schooled my kids from the start. I wouldn't put them in public school if you paid me to do it. However, NOT everyone is cut out to school their kids at home. The quality of education can be excellent as long as the parents aren't just doing some bare minimum to get by.
There are some good teachers out there. The problem is you don't know what kind of teacher you have until you get stuck with a bad one. And some districts are rife with the woke, self righteous, identity politics that seems to be taking the place of actual education. The schools need to worry les about sexual identification and more about education.
@@trusound170 that's a very good point. I had a few good ones as well. In 97 was the last straw for me. I got into an argument with my geography teacher. Instead of doing what she said explicitly, I went online and read about the area, then printed it and handed it in.
On my way out the security guard yelled if you walk out that door you can't come back ! I skipped school and played PlayStation and N64 talking about video games. My teachers generation said " that's going nowhere and a waste of time!"
I ended up going to school to learn computer science pursuing video games. Worked at Rockstar games ( my dream) helped design Red dead redemption. Made more money than any of them and I had to go against everything they taught me unfortunately. Thank God for the internet.
@@tylerriojas6250 There's a great success story! I love how you handled that teacher as well. I always say the best teachers are capable of being able to handle being wrong.
I’m glad you guys are educating yourselves.
Okay, this is the second video that I’ve watched of you guys (first was your reaction video to legendary rappers Ben Shapiro + Tom MacDonald 😂) & I absolutely love y’all. I’ve been following Peterson for years (even finally got to see him live a couple weeks ago). He is an absolute treasure, so much practical wisdom. But more than anything, I love how y’all just fire up the videos, pause to discuss & Google if you need to & just try to work out what he’s saying. I’d suspect y’all are about my son’s age & you give me hope for your generation. I subscribed & I’m looking forward to seeing more. Love from Missouri ❤
Welcome guys to Jordan Peterson.He was one of the people who saved me when I was going the wrong way.
Jesse lee peterson next
@@ojs94bronco43 That would be AMAZIN'
Helped me overcome myself so much.
@@jerm2011 🤣 this
@@ojs94bronco43 BETA! lol 🤣
I’m a dad and I feel like I’m watching you guys grow up. The fact that you pushed back on a educated man of that pedigree.. gives me hope. You agreed and disagreed and I love it
Yeah its nice to see close brothers. I have three sons (2, 4, 8) this makes me think of them watchin youtube at these guys age and being able to shoot the shit without getting all butthurt about being wrong lol. Right now its basically, the 8 year old bossing the 4 year old around, the 4 year old trying to be like his older brother, and still be like his younger brother and get away with baby shit, and the 2 year old, beating the shit out of the older two. lol Im sure it was similar when you guys were little haha
@@realchilldude1271 Are all of them brothers? Or are some of them cousins and brothers? Or brothers/nephews/cousins? LOL. I always wished I knew who was who.😁
I love watching you all on this podcast. Great job please keep up your wonderful work
Coming from 65 year old lady lol
I’m a fan now , love watching you guys . Dope !
As a woman, I can do anything I want. I miss families and wish we had it back
As a young man i have a question. I've been told that women unknowingly played a huge role in their own oppression so the wouldn't know how to help. But I don't believe that as their was 1st and 2nd wave feminism that made huge changes. To that, they (the partners of my mates) say its not that it's just all the little things women did on a day to day basis. But won't give any examples. I don't believe that but I also believe I could potentially be wrong.
I don't want to be on the wrong side, but I also don't want my friends to be on the wrong side due to misinformation, but I also don't want to lose them because I couldn't articulate my point in way that would atleast make them want to do their own deep research. Im asking the woman around me but most seem to just laugh it off as if the people making those claims are idiots, but they simply aren't because I've seen them do intelligent things before. They just seem mislead in a few area's of life, but i think we all have lies we believe about the world around us and that's part of life is uncoving truths.
Any my question is do you agree with the first statement?
And do you have any advice?
@@flowkimontana3120 If you don't mind my input I'd say taking sides or "being on the right side" is likely best avoided. Thinking that way only feeds the culture war which is getting increasingly convoluted with everyone giving their views on other peoples behaviours/group identities/ideologies etc. Focus on your actions and emotions and the motivations behind them, if your friends do something that lacks integrity then and only then call them out on it. It's the policing how each other thinks that is the problem, it would be more helpful to think about how we act and the motivations behind our actions. We can debate of course but it gets to a point where we're debating based on information we can't completely verify. Much simpler to just be a decent person.
As for the oppression thing it's the same in individuals as with groups. If you see a person who is stressed, anxious and generally negative they are oppressing themselves or have a perception which allowed them to feel oppressed in some form. Freedom is freedom from anxiety, doubt, guilt and shame i.e all forms of fear which is brought on by our unconscious beliefs.
@@flowkimontana3120 I saw a meme a while back that said “I didn’t ask to be liberated and have to get a job” it was funny to me how it pointed out women used to be taken care of by the men in their life. We also used to work as a tribe with our extended family to make sure everyone was provided for. Women worked just not for pay their skills of being able to produce heirs was important for survival and depending on how poor they were she took care of the home front while the men fought and hunted to protect and provide.
Now it takes two incomes to survive and the immediate family is fractured and no longer work together to keep provide for their tribe. The home is constantly in chaos because everyone is working and can’t clean and often living pay check to pay check and can’t afford a house cleaner.
I’m thankful for evolution of our society and the women before me that fought for my right to vote, own property and own a business but I do wish we could still survive on only one income so that one parent could be holding down the home front if they wanted while the other goes out and earns the money.
@Chris P. Bacon I’m a gen x and have seen the disappearing family values and unit in my time. Even my own extended family is split on whether we should celebrate certain holidays together anymore. That was never a question 15+ years ago...we always used to gather share food and stories and hugs and to on about our merry way. This year “Thanksgiving” was labeled a family gathering and held one week early and Christmas was skipped. I was sad and did miss the times when family values and time with family was more important.
I’ll even say not just families...I miss socializing with friends and neighbors. From Super Bowl parties, block parties, home interior and Mary Kay parties to even just hosting a friend or family member for dinner...it feels like that has all gotten left behind and is a thing of the past.
Families are everywhere but the family unit is a IMHO disappearing.
@Chris P. Bacon there are a few of us out of state rebels who are booking holiday gathering spots for next year at the local community building so anyone who wants can celebrate Christmas and Thanksgiving. We shall see.
I’ve enjoyed interacting with you today even when we disagree on something. Not that my opinion should matter but I appreciate your open conversation.
Peterson is probably one of the greatest thinkers of our time. You should check out more of his stuff.
I agree. I’d also like to point you in the direction of Dr. Thomas Sowell. Written many books and is a world renowned economist and scholarly academic. Conservatives hold him in high regard because he spits intellectual facts.
He’s an African American that grew up in Harem in the 40s-and 50’s then went to college and excelled. He was sucked into Marxism early in college by some Black Panthers that came he met but eventually worked in government on a side job and saw the reality of how things were ran and where the real problems consisted.
He is incredibly!!!
Jiddu Krishnamurti is even greater. JBP is still a boy in comparison (not trying to downplay Peterson's greatness). You should have a listen to him sometime.
@@kaym6850 Didn't he die 40 years ago?
@@kaym6850 The problem with that take is that OP said "of our time"
I enjoyed watching these young men discuss and learn.
Super late to the party on these but been watching the videos you all make....love the content. Really like the conversations had during pauses.
Woman here. One of the worst things women did to other women was to convince them that if you are a stay at home mom, you are “less than” working mothers. I would have LOVED to stay at home with my children. It I was convinced I needed a career.
Amen!!!
And your children would have benefited greatly if you stayed home with them. Now everyone has to have one or two jobs and the children are suffering. They want their parents to be there.
I think motherhood (and fatherhood) is the most difficult job and there is no compensation. It doesn’t make sense to me.
Jordan is eye opening and amazing. The way his mind works and how he is able to break things down is very effective.
One point that keeps going through my mind on repeat- women didn’t want to vote back in the day because being able to vote meant you were eligible to be drafted into war and required to leave your family and home to fight.
Thank you guys for your content!
People in my family live a long time, I was babysat by my great-grandparents who were born in the 1800s, and had many relatives that grew up throughout the early 20th century. The idea that women were oppressed is nonsense to anyone who met these women.
They weren't quiet, they weren't meek, they didn't ask permission for anything, and they were happy that men took on the responsibilities that traditionally went to men. And the men didn't talk down to them or treat them like children, either. They both had their roles and were both very happy with them. Much happier than people today who all have depression, anxiety, identity issues, etc.
Prior to that, it was they'd have to be a part of the fire brigade.
@Kangaroo Ninja , yep feminism was the beginning of destroying society. Look where we are at right now, and it's not good.
Keep on searching for knowledge we all need to grow and we grow thru dialog. Much respect for your work!
I like that they're trying to understand and communicate about these subjects. The first step is trying to learn and understand. So good video guys.
It’s incredible how this man was once just standing in a classroom defending his right not to have to change his speech to being plastered everywhere being interviewed about every controversial topic he can have any opinion on. The social foot on your neck demanding you align is wild
I have so much respect for you four young men. You are doing what I wish the rest of your generation would do. You are doing research and listening to speakers that are educated. You are looking up terms that you may not understand. Most of all you are trying to seek the knowledge and make up your own minds. You are not just following the crowd or group mentality. Again much respect. ❤️👍✌️🇺🇸
I couldn't have said it any better. Thanks.
@@alenahawke475 They have restored my faith in the younger generation. These kids literally have to almost rebel against what is being taught in oir schools.
I really appreciate these guy's honesty trying to research something they don't know... Kudos to you all
Jordan peterson is 1 of the greatest minds online and
Watching you guys getting red pilled is great 👍....keep the videos coming, guys
Love that you guys are learning new things from different people and looking up the definitions of words. It's very important to understand the subject, keep watching more.
I don’t like celebrity culture and idolizing people with no baring on my own life, but I can honestly say Jordan Peterson has changed my life to the point that I have true love for the man.
mine as well.
You and so many others .my wife and I live by his basic lessons and our happiness and success keep growing every day
@Chris P. Bacon I disagree but I can see why one might feel that way.
Cheers
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@Chris P. Bacon respectfully I disagree.
One of the primary ideals that I have taught both of my boys is to educate yourself. Their education is their responsibility. These young men are the epitome of that. They have taken that responsibility to further themselves and those around them. Kudos
First time coming across this channel, and I am aware this video is well over a year old, but damn these 4 individuals are awesome. I love how they have a great back and forth about the topics, let alone that as soon as they hear something they are not knowledgeable on, they look it up. I will be following this channel, these 4 are great.
Please take the time to listen to some of his full speeches because this is just bits and pieces. This guy's communication skills Rock. The way he stands in his own truth is just amazing
Peterson is so brilliant that sometimes he’s so over my head that I don’t understand what he is saying. I’ll admit that. But I love him.
I don't know how I came across this video, but I absolutely love watching you guys taking in all the information, and then having questions, and discussing your views/thoughts! My entire life changed when I started asking questions, instead of believing everything I was ever told.
These guys are refreshing!!
All is not lost!!!! Some young men ARE interested in the profound and not only the entertaining! Thank you for being a good example of young men trying to enhance their understanding and use their brain!
"In order to be able to think critically you have to risk being offensive." Jordan Peterson.
In the same vein "good jokes come from the same place as bad jokes" Patrice O'Neal.
@@grandmarquee If comedy isn't offensive then it isn't comedy. Comedy is the rubber tipped sword and the mirror to the world
He should take his own advice. He is too offended to debate anyone who will challenge him.
This is my favorite quote of his.
quite the opposite. A critical thinker can understand why something is offensive to someone else that might not be to them.
You guys are great! Keep on learning. You will change your world.
Great job guys.
Hello guys. I am a 67-year-old, moderate, white, American woman and I love watching your videos. I enjoy the majority of your comments, your common sense attitudes, the way in which you talk to each other, and that you like Bill Burr. He is outrageous and hilarious at the same time. As long as there are more people (men and women) like you in America I think our country will be alright. I've had some fears this past year about the future of America. When I listen to you and see what you are watching and talking about I feel safer than I felt previously. I, too, watch Jordan Peterson, Ben Shapiro, Bill Maher, Glen Beck, and others.
You are probably a classical liberal that uses a bit of common sense.