@@danielivanov930 I bet it was someone who hated their job and finally got a call from someone nice with a different problem. I did the same when I worked for apple support.
Huge props to Samsung for actually going through the effort of troubleshooting a 10+ year old product and providing some customer support for it! Now THAT'S some reliable service right there.
Working in customer service, I can totally relate with the Samsung CS. I would stay full time over the phone to help with something out of the ordinary tech support call. Removes our job boredom. Kudos to that CS guy and your efforts. More powers...
@@LuisMan123 depends on the call center and how they track things. where I used to work not at all! If anything you'd get a pat on the back if it was high profile enough. "You managed to fix someone's obscure problem which we had no documentation for and they were happy with the results. Congratulations"
I work with support as well and do the same thing but my bosses aren’t happy about it since the company gets paid by the companies we do support for by the call not by the minute so they want you to take no more than a few minutes per call.
Piques, it piques your interest. Comes from the French word for "prick", like it pokes you the right way. Not actually related to the "peak" of your interest.
Agreed! They tanked their MTR when I’m sure any manager would have been fine with them ignoring a call for a device that’s now old enough to legally vote
There were some good ones, but many had horrible design choices. Like in video you can see 1,8" ZIF-HDD. It's so, so incredibly slow storage media that it's absurd. Also UI's just weren't suitable for display sizes etc. Who honestly wants to use PC with less than 10" display? I had EEE-series Asus and it had 7" display. It was almost unusable. These days I have many 12-13" laptops and I find that to be the idea size for laptop. Also as today, high-end models costs so much that for average joe it just doesn't make sense to buy one.
@@jothain yeah, they were SLOW. You had to want one, it's nothing like today. I worked in an office with an executive who LOVED ultra portable PC's. He got a special exemption to have a non standard UMPC style laptop. It was super cool, but my god it was slow. I'm not exaggerating when I say it took 20 minutes to reboot and load our standard winXP setup which only took about 4 minutes on our worst hardware. It was atrociously slow. All because of the 1.8" or whatever size ipod style hard drive it used. I despised working on that computer, my day went to sh1t when a trouble call or software request from him came in because I knew I'd be at that desk for 2 hours simply waiting for the computer.
Having dealt with Samsung support before, I am *stunned* they were even willing to talk about this one, let alone dig in and actually help. That rep deserves a promotion!
These were wildly popular in Korea. There was one guy in IT I worked with who absolutely loved the Sony UMPC because it offered him a much easier set up for on the floor IT work at the server farm or somewhere in the office. I managed to snag a WiBrain UMPC with Ubuntu for pretty cheap in Yongsan and took that baby home to install Knoppix STD for work. I still got it kicking around here somewhere. I'm really excited that Steam Deck kind of kicked off the UMPC revival here tho, and I love that GPD basically kept it alive all these years with their og Win handheld (which was lowkey the best IT tool I ever got my mits on).
This is a new record, in 18 hours you've managed to make this tablet and every other one like it either extremely expensive £300 or so, but also the chargers are now £25 not £8 congrats.
If it wasn't for guys like you then little gems like this would be lost to history. Sure, there might be an odd website or blog somewhere buried on the interwebs but these kind of videos really help. Mad props to Samsung too 👀
Glad to see you're back! I remember having the same language issues you had when translating it from russian to english way back in 2012 or 2013, while reinstalling windows and then using an english to portuguese patch I found online back then. Only way i found out of these bugs was upgrading to vista. I think thats the only time upgrading to vista solved anything
So glad to see another upload! I like this little tablet quite a lot, UMPCs from this era had a lot of charm even if they were a tad underpowered. Nowadays it makes a great retro PC gaming box for the pocket, beats the heck out of an XP virtual machine on a phone in my opinion.
I used to use quite a few of these back in like 2008. We were using them at events for taking green screen photos with phones, bluetoothing it to the little PC, then uploading that directly to a web server for people to retrieve their photos. Besides the horrendous speed of how slow the HDD was, these little things actually ran quite well. And powered with an external battery, they'd run all day long. We even had some attached to mobile arms off backpacks and stuff so our brand ambassadors were completely mobile.
I wanted a UMPC so bad when I was a teenager, I loved the form factors and how small they were considering they were a full PC, and at the time they seemed so futuristic.
I have two later models of this, the Ultra ans Ultra Premium models. They actually have tiny keyboards built in, half on each side of the screen. I think they're super cool, really fun to mess around with older games on. Would have been amazing to have had one when they were new!
Oh great, I own one of these too. It's interesting how your copy of XP Tablet PC gave a lot of issues, mine went fluidly. Also, no, you can't install 10 or 11, 11 is a defo no since it's 64-bit only, and 8.1 or 10 won't start the installer because the CPU is missing PAE. Thankfully however Windows 7 and Vista are supported on it, and I've booted them alongside XP thanks to a 256GB ZIF SSD. Super smooth. Now only if I can get a new battery... (P.S. Minecraft 1.7.10 with Optifine at low ran at 7fps)
I have the Q1 ultra, I run windows 10 from a live USB...it's limited to the USB 2.0 bus speed tho but still cool. internally, it has an XP msata SSD. I have the SSD connected via an IDE ZIF to msata board :)
I bought a Samsung Q1 in 2006. It still works until this day. I run a Linux distro on it and use it routinely to interface with other equipment in my lab. This was a great video. Took me back. 🙏
This looks like a hell of a lot of fun. I've had a bit too smooth a year with computers and I yearn for some painful troubleshooting. I might treat myself.
I loved the UMPC form factor ... when it was done well. I was an early user of the Viliv S5, which had noticeably useful features like Bluetooth for a wireless keyboard/mouse, a SIM card slot for a data plan modem, and GPS. And it was small enough to (barely) fit into a lot of my pockets. It was a lot more convenient than a laptop for contract work on-the-go, both on site (when allowed) and nights in dingy hotel rooms. Also IN THE CAR with a suction-cup mount it made for an excellent GPS to navigate unfamiliar distant locales. It was way more capable of smartphones at the time, and ran all of the developer apps I could ever need, including things like MS Office, MS Visual Studio, GIMP and Audacity. Plus it played some games. It was brilliant! It strikes me as so strange that this form factor stayed so niche, as it was everything I could ever want when I was on the go. With Skype it even made real phone calls. (Though I'd have preferred UMPCs to eventually include real phone systems. Which they still don't.) The Viliv S5 even had an FM radio. Whereas today you rarely even find SIM modems or radios in UMPCs. Heck, you can rarely even find a modern UMPC with more than one USB port either, as if it won't be constantly tied up for charging, which is weird considering how cut-down their feature sets usually are today. WHY?! Either give them hardware features built-in OR give them USB ports to add those features. (I'd prefer built-in, but you take what you can get.) It's the weird cut-down cost-saving nonsense that makes most UMPCs, then and now, pretty freaking useless as laptop replacements. That, and most won't fit into a pocket anymore, in spite of technology getting better and better. And why so few get a decent docking station... Honestly, all these years with them, and still no one, including their manufacturers, understand them. But maybe with the modern resurgence as portable game consoles, like the Steam Deck, maybe, just maybe, someone will finally get it right again, as the ultimate laptop replacement for people on-the-go and in-the-know.
i actually owned one of these. was never able to actually install any other operating system on it. after a few years in storage, i went back to it just to see the screen had smashed. Nice to see what it could have became of it
do you think it could have been the old hdd causing installation woes? those old mini ide hard drives aren't known for longevity, and ssd upgrades are pretty easy to come by with the popularity of ipod ssd upgrades.
I imagine your video made this device quite popular, as I tried to buy one three days after the video was released and the lowest price I could find was $130. Great video! Made me miss windows xp for some weird reason.
$130 parts only, $230 for a working one lmao. I'll stick with my Steam Deck that can already run all my old XP games. For $30 maybe but hundreds for a device that doesn't even have proper support anymore and has a hodge podge of drivers that requires you to be multilingual, no thanks.
That was a really nice review and an excellent device - never would I have known that something that has a lot in common with the Steam Deck, would have been available in 2005/2006... And no, these won't stay under the radar now you've done a review about them.
The UMPC I salivated over wishing I could afford at the time was the OQO Model 02. I still kind of want a Model 01+ or Model 02. Being quite rare bits of tech I find it unlikely however :(
I was obsessed the OQO M2 and UMPC's around 2007 at their peak. There were websites dedicated to selling them. They were ahead of their time and very powerful. But also very expensive. Also Netbooks were a thing too.
It was only a couple of days ago when I was lying in bed looking for something to watch on UA-cam. And I thought to myself. I wonder where budget builds is, it's been a while. And now after seeing the trouble you have had with this. I see why it's been a while. You have more patience than me mate 🤣 Glad to see you're doing well
I would be very impressed if you decided to make a video using this device, rendering, mixing, and all that. A short 30 second sketch about drinking tea and browsing second hand sites would be good. I got my start on a different channel using windows xp movie maker
There was a tool to overclock those GMA 900 chips in xp to 400 mhz if I remember. I think it also worked on the GMA 950. The software vertex shading ready killed the frame rate for some things still but it helped
In around 2020, I've got the Lenovo T410 from recycling, it had one of the first SSDs in it (weird 1.8 micro SATA) and the reason why they tossed it out, the "dead" SSD, it decided to lock in Read Only mode. I've searched for firmware for it (it was crucial's OEM model) and found it, tried it and it failed to detect SSD (the issue was that default BIOS setup is AHCI, and software only works with legacy IDE emulation mode, that I've learned much later) I've contacted crucial support being sure that they'll laugh on me at best, but the guy on the line was really nice and helpful, after my complains about firmware missing on their site, he found it and emailed me the files, the same ones I've found and failed to install due to AHCI, but still kudos to them, and shame to intel to removing BIOSEs for "old" motherboards. SSD fixed itself after firmware update by the way, laptop still rocks Windows 10 like a champ.
Great video, and kudos to the Samsung support for helping to get it up and running, I'm surprised they didn't just say it's no longer supported. Though you're putting the device at a potentially high risk by taking that thing online especially without antivirus running on it. Granted there's probably less of them spreading around the internet, though years ago it was possible to almost immediately become infected with worms or trojans due to how far out of date it is and no longer receiving security patches. It's possible that time-frame has mostly passed with less and less XP devices being on the internet, though I would have connected it to an isolated SSID with firewall rules to only allow the device to talk to the internet and nothing else locally as a safety precaution, especially if you have any other retro devices on your network as well.
Those 1.8 inch hard drives were also used on the Dell Inspiron D430. Good news you can upgrade to an MSATA ssd with the right hardware. Made my Dell a lot quicker.
I happen to have one of those (as well as the Samsung NP-Q1) as I fix laptops as a hobby. It can run Windows 10 with all drivers installed, but either the underclocked/underpowered Core2 Duo or the weeny HDD really make it sluggish.
I have a samsung phone (s23u) for the first time now and absolutely love it. Like samsung in general. Now I like them even more. The fact that they spent so much time helping you make the device work is awesome. And this thing looks like such a cool device. Imagine having that back in 2006
I remember Sony made an even smaller UMPC using the 1.2GHz Core 2 Solo ULV cpu. It used a 4.5" 1024x640 touchscreen, I think, and ran on WinXP Professional. It had a slide-out keyboard. Neat little thing. I think when new, they were asking 2 grand for it...
I really wanted the first GPD Win back when it came out but it was too expensive and hard to get. The newer ones were/are even more expensive :D Even the first one would have been a pretty nice upgrade from my HP Stream 7
On the USB stick , i find some older USB2 sticks are better for older devices or doing things like bios/firmware updates. I keep a 512mb ancient hardly USB 2.0 disk about for just stuff like this . I have tried to update firmware on some very high end kit from modern USB3 disks and had problems , throw it on that old 512meg disk and boom problem solved.
That is an impressive portable computer. That Samsung actually helped troubleshoot such an old computer running an OS not supported for nearly a decade is... impressive :) Sadly the processor, while it supports PAE, does not advertise it in the CPUID instruction. Later revisions of the architecture did. Windows, starting in Windows 8, requires PAE and will refuse to boot. Linux has a patch where you can pass forcepae that will allow it to use PAE even if CPUID does not report it. There were a few patches for Windows 8 (note: not 8.1) but any update will break it. So Windows 7 is the last version you can install without patching and patching is fragile for Windows 8. Windows 11, furthermore, does not support 32-bit computers at all. For the graphics, Intel has a driver for Windows Vista, but not Windows 7. However, the Vista driver appears to work for people who upgraded from Vista to 7 with that GMA 900 (though it is not WDDM driver so no Aero). If you want to try to upgrade to Windows Vista or 7, that is potentially feasible without weird patches.
Wow! I never even knew these existed! I'm currently an intel Mac (Catalina) enthusiast (for audio), but I fondly remember WinXP back when I recorded with Adobe Audition 3.0, and I clutched onto that OS legit until Windows was like: Come on man! Let it go! LMAO! XP was one of the most freakin' stable Microsoft OS IMO. Great video!
my comment was deleted for having a link, but I had said that I know how to fix the archived recovery images, you just need to go into the $oem folder and delete all of the MUI files, and edit the autorun to exclude them. I spent hours trying to fix this same Russian problem when I used those images on my q1 ultra
I was thinking about UMPCs/Palmtops and thought, "I haven't seen Budget Builds in a while. I wonder what he's posted since I last checked in." I saw this was your newest video and I couldn't remember if I'd watched it. After about twenty seconds I remembered that I had. Then I watched the whole thing again! I just wanted to take a moment to let you know that I enjoy your channel's content and I hope you're doing well wherever you are. Cheers from Kentucky.
God, I remember seeing these things as store demos when I was in high school and being bewildered at the form factor. They were expensive, too, like $1,300 or something. They later made versions running Vista that handled as well as you can imagine.
Same chip as the original Asus Eee PC (aka the 701). 900mhz Celeron M 353. It's quite a pringle of a chip but yes, Windows 10 32-bit does somehow run on them lol.
Been having a rough time of it and your videos always help me unwind (plus they let me appreciate my hardware alot more 🤣) Welcome back and happy new years 😊
This thing is even weirder than I thought. I kinda love those UMPCs, they still seem so futuristic to me. I mean, a whole proper PC in an almost pocket size, modern tablets are pretty boring in comparison lol By the way, if you didn't know, you can fully update Windows XP and actually restore its Update feature with legacy update. I don't know if updating XP would actually make a difference in performance, but that would be an interesting video idea maybe.
Yeah huge props to Samsung for the tech support on this device because you don't know how many people who worked for Samsung at the time when this device was new are still working there now and still remember this device and how it even worked. Also it is amazing how well this device ran the games you threw at it with that GMA 900 adapter that it had in it. A true early SteamDeck.
man have i missed your content. it's always a pleasant surprise when you upload a new video. You make me feel at home, as corny as that sounds. Keep it up!
I had one of these back in the day. I did a torture test on it by having it on and operating while running it through a dishwasher. It survived and was still working when it finished the drying cycle. Shockingly well built machine.
I was obsessed with UMPC's around 2007 at their peak. There were websites dedicated to selling them. They were ahead of their time and very powerful. But also very expensive. Also Netbooks were a thing too.
I used Toshiba Libretto's pre year 2000 xd. User experience not so different from the one in the video actually. Running Windows 98, some Pentium chip and it was quite fun! Keyboard integrated!
i brought myself a Steam Deck the other day, its been amazing so far, and I'm not even close to getting everything I what running it but it's such a refreshing PC experience I've found joy in gaming for the first time in the better part of a year. then along comes your video I find it mind-blowing this is a path we have been down in the past. its also got me nostalgic for the XP tablet experience, need to add windows XP duel boot to my steam deck wish/to-do list XD
For web browsing, there is now Mypal which has a beta release based on Firefox 68 (Quantum) great way to browse the web on XP and 2000 (with extended kernel). I'd recommend giving that a shot at some point.
I found one of these at a computer recycler in high school (around 2015) and I used the hell out of. Since this is before the nintendo switch came out, all my friends joked that it was a prototype for the "Nintendo NX" because of the resistive touch screen.
Thanks for the video. In a follow up video you should try to upgrade it as far as possible (faster CPU & mSATA SSD if possible) and compare the results to the benchmarks in this video. Would be pretty interesting imo.
Greetings! Your video came up as a recommend one for me and I’m glad it did! It was nice seeing someone else with one of these UMPC’s! I have two that I’ve had for quite a while. Both where second hand eBay purchases so I did not have much more than the unit’s which one is lacking a charger! On my main one, it has the stock operating system. I’m not sure if I can make an image to have to install to yours as I’ve never had any luck moving older OS’s from one system to another.
Interesting fact: the GMA900 has only pixel shaders, but no vertex shaders, yet support Shader Model 2.0; the GMA basically orders the CPU to calculate vertices and T&L and then the graphic core simply takes the credit.
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Props to Samsung for giving customer support for a 17 years old device
Yea i was even suprised that they even bothered .
@@danielivanov930 I bet it was someone who hated their job and finally got a call from someone nice with a different problem. I did the same when I worked for apple support.
@@inescostanr1 This.
@@inescostanr1 Maybe I should call HP for my DVD-RAM not working in their drive...
He lucked out, Samsung and Apple normally have trash customer support
Huge props to Samsung for actually going through the effort of troubleshooting a 10+ year old product and providing some customer support for it! Now THAT'S some reliable service right there.
@@brookerobertson2951 Yip? More like yip hooray.
Samsung? You mean the nice callcenter worker from god knows which poor country paid minimum wage, you'd better be thankful.
@@Akirilus still better than a kick in the balls. who makes the thing your typing on ? phone them for help and see what happens. lol
@@Akirilus Yeah yeah, capitalism bad yada yada, good luck finding a call center worker for ANY company that isn't set up like that.
he probably got lucky and someone who is enthusiast in this old tech saw his ticket xd
Working in customer service, I can totally relate with the Samsung CS. I would stay full time over the phone to help with something out of the ordinary tech support call. Removes our job boredom. Kudos to that CS guy and your efforts. More powers...
Would that reduce your pay or make managers mad if you take that much time on the phone?
@@LuisMan123 depends on the call center and how they track things. where I used to work not at all! If anything you'd get a pat on the back if it was high profile enough. "You managed to fix someone's obscure problem which we had no documentation for and they were happy with the results. Congratulations"
I work with support as well and do the same thing but my bosses aren’t happy about it since the company gets paid by the companies we do support for by the call not by the minute so they want you to take no more than a few minutes per call.
Piques, it piques your interest. Comes from the French word for "prick", like it pokes you the right way. Not actually related to the "peak" of your interest.
hey, he’s back
As somebody that works in IT Support, that Samsung technical support analyst deserves a medal. And a big bonus.
it is impressive that he really took care about the issue.
Agreed! They tanked their MTR when I’m sure any manager would have been fine with them ignoring a call for a device that’s now old enough to legally vote
It's crazy how portable PCs got shat on during that time. It would be cool to see more.
Ahead of its time probably
Launched very close after psp. That was 250. Quater of the price.
Edit: $1000 in 2005 adjusted for inflation was worth around 1500 usd today... ooff
There were some good ones, but many had horrible design choices. Like in video you can see 1,8" ZIF-HDD. It's so, so incredibly slow storage media that it's absurd. Also UI's just weren't suitable for display sizes etc. Who honestly wants to use PC with less than 10" display? I had EEE-series Asus and it had 7" display. It was almost unusable. These days I have many 12-13" laptops and I find that to be the idea size for laptop. Also as today, high-end models costs so much that for average joe it just doesn't make sense to buy one.
@@jothain yeah, they were SLOW. You had to want one, it's nothing like today.
I worked in an office with an executive who LOVED ultra portable PC's. He got a special exemption to have a non standard UMPC style laptop. It was super cool, but my god it was slow. I'm not exaggerating when I say it took 20 minutes to reboot and load our standard winXP setup which only took about 4 minutes on our worst hardware.
It was atrociously slow. All because of the 1.8" or whatever size ipod style hard drive it used. I despised working on that computer, my day went to sh1t when a trouble call or software request from him came in because I knew I'd be at that desk for 2 hours simply waiting for the computer.
@@obvious_giraffe8386 precisely
Having dealt with Samsung support before, I am *stunned* they were even willing to talk about this one, let alone dig in and actually help. That rep deserves a promotion!
7:00 - "It was under that box about please consult corresponding mother" A common Windows XP Pitfall.
These were wildly popular in Korea. There was one guy in IT I worked with who absolutely loved the Sony UMPC because it offered him a much easier set up for on the floor IT work at the server farm or somewhere in the office. I managed to snag a WiBrain UMPC with Ubuntu for pretty cheap in Yongsan and took that baby home to install Knoppix STD for work. I still got it kicking around here somewhere. I'm really excited that Steam Deck kind of kicked off the UMPC revival here tho, and I love that GPD basically kept it alive all these years with their og Win handheld (which was lowkey the best IT tool I ever got my mits on).
I have a Q1 Ultra that I use quite regularly for car diagnostics. And it works great for old XP games that won't run on modern windows.
a small part of me wants to get one and is telling myself i would use it..
Whats a q1 ultra ?
This is a new record, in 18 hours you've managed to make this tablet and every other one like it either extremely expensive £300 or so, but also the chargers are now £25 not £8 congrats.
Wow
LOL I was thinking the same thing.
Hate how whenever UA-camrs make a thing about this prices of e waste soars
@@Balrog-tf3bg If its e-waste to you, then it shouldn't matter at all?
@@StriderVM nah I like finding cheap tech to tinker with for my own amusement then list for resale
He's back! Also, even Samsung predates the Steam Deck by like... 17 years?
>tablet pcs didn't exist till the steam deck
@@PlastiGomi XDDD
Cries in Sony vaio.
@@PlastiGomi I mean... I guess we ignore the other table pcs from the last 3 or 4 years now?
@@stevemclovin1566 Cries in HTC Shift.
Great video! Hope the channel isn't dying like Low spec gamer
he's coming back, he just has uni
@@lambda1234 where is the dc server tho? I cant join it. It says invitation expired
If it wasn't for guys like you then little gems like this would be lost to history. Sure, there might be an odd website or blog somewhere buried on the interwebs but these kind of videos really help.
Mad props to Samsung too 👀
Glad to see you're back!
I remember having the same language issues you had when translating it from russian to english way back in 2012 or 2013, while reinstalling windows and then using an english to portuguese patch I found online back then.
Only way i found out of these bugs was upgrading to vista. I think thats the only time upgrading to vista solved anything
"I think thats the only time upgrading to vista solved anything"
Haha that made my day!
Thank you!
So glad to see another upload! I like this little tablet quite a lot, UMPCs from this era had a lot of charm even if they were a tad underpowered. Nowadays it makes a great retro PC gaming box for the pocket, beats the heck out of an XP virtual machine on a phone in my opinion.
A tad underpowered wouldn't have been a problem if not for the fact most of these cost at least or well over a grand.
I used to use quite a few of these back in like 2008. We were using them at events for taking green screen photos with phones, bluetoothing it to the little PC, then uploading that directly to a web server for people to retrieve their photos. Besides the horrendous speed of how slow the HDD was, these little things actually ran quite well. And powered with an external battery, they'd run all day long. We even had some attached to mobile arms off backpacks and stuff so our brand ambassadors were completely mobile.
I wanted a UMPC so bad when I was a teenager, I loved the form factors and how small they were considering they were a full PC, and at the time they seemed so futuristic.
I have two later models of this, the Ultra ans Ultra Premium models. They actually have tiny keyboards built in, half on each side of the screen. I think they're super cool, really fun to mess around with older games on. Would have been amazing to have had one when they were new!
Oh great, I own one of these too.
It's interesting how your copy of XP Tablet PC gave a lot of issues, mine went fluidly.
Also, no, you can't install 10 or 11, 11 is a defo no since it's 64-bit only, and 8.1 or 10 won't start the installer because the CPU is missing PAE.
Thankfully however Windows 7 and Vista are supported on it, and I've booted them alongside XP thanks to a 256GB ZIF SSD. Super smooth.
Now only if I can get a new battery...
(P.S. Minecraft 1.7.10 with Optifine at low ran at 7fps)
1.16 with sodium could run at 15-20fps
I have the Q1 ultra, I run windows 10 from a live USB...it's limited to the USB 2.0 bus speed tho but still cool. internally, it has an XP msata SSD. I have the SSD connected via an IDE ZIF to msata board :)
batteries are only proprietary if you don't know how to solder, dig in and replace it!
Can you install Android on it?
@@ShadowGD_OfficialYT ....
I bought a Samsung Q1 in 2006. It still works until this day. I run a Linux distro on it and use it routinely to interface with other equipment in my lab.
This was a great video. Took me back. 🙏
You are back. Cheers. Love your stories. Hope you always keep on doing these.
This is exactly the content I subscribed for! Much love from Germany, you legend
This looks like a hell of a lot of fun. I've had a bit too smooth a year with computers and I yearn for some painful troubleshooting. I might treat myself.
fantastic return video!!! Glad to have you back!!! hope all is well!
this era tech is always fascinating!!! so slick---might hafta find one!@!
I think you single handedly raised the demand for these!!! not 30 $/Pounds anymore!!! 😁
Its good to see a new video. Also what a device. That would be a dream computer for me back in time
I loved the UMPC form factor ... when it was done well. I was an early user of the Viliv S5, which had noticeably useful features like Bluetooth for a wireless keyboard/mouse, a SIM card slot for a data plan modem, and GPS. And it was small enough to (barely) fit into a lot of my pockets. It was a lot more convenient than a laptop for contract work on-the-go, both on site (when allowed) and nights in dingy hotel rooms. Also IN THE CAR with a suction-cup mount it made for an excellent GPS to navigate unfamiliar distant locales. It was way more capable of smartphones at the time, and ran all of the developer apps I could ever need, including things like MS Office, MS Visual Studio, GIMP and Audacity. Plus it played some games. It was brilliant!
It strikes me as so strange that this form factor stayed so niche, as it was everything I could ever want when I was on the go. With Skype it even made real phone calls. (Though I'd have preferred UMPCs to eventually include real phone systems. Which they still don't.) The Viliv S5 even had an FM radio. Whereas today you rarely even find SIM modems or radios in UMPCs. Heck, you can rarely even find a modern UMPC with more than one USB port either, as if it won't be constantly tied up for charging, which is weird considering how cut-down their feature sets usually are today. WHY?! Either give them hardware features built-in OR give them USB ports to add those features. (I'd prefer built-in, but you take what you can get.) It's the weird cut-down cost-saving nonsense that makes most UMPCs, then and now, pretty freaking useless as laptop replacements. That, and most won't fit into a pocket anymore, in spite of technology getting better and better. And why so few get a decent docking station...
Honestly, all these years with them, and still no one, including their manufacturers, understand them. But maybe with the modern resurgence as portable game consoles, like the Steam Deck, maybe, just maybe, someone will finally get it right again, as the ultimate laptop replacement for people on-the-go and in-the-know.
i actually owned one of these. was never able to actually install any other operating system on it. after a few years in storage, i went back to it just to see the screen had smashed. Nice to see what it could have became of it
do you still have it?
@@charlesanderson1321 nope, somewhere in a trash heap now I'm afraid
For someone who played Quake on the N95 and HTC Universal back then, this is awesome!
"Nokia N95: It's what computers have become"
do you think it could have been the old hdd causing installation woes? those old mini ide hard drives aren't known for longevity, and ssd upgrades are pretty easy to come by with the popularity of ipod ssd upgrades.
I imagine your video made this device quite popular, as I tried to buy one three days after the video was released and the lowest price I could find was $130. Great video! Made me miss windows xp for some weird reason.
$130 parts only, $230 for a working one lmao. I'll stick with my Steam Deck that can already run all my old XP games. For $30 maybe but hundreds for a device that doesn't even have proper support anymore and has a hodge podge of drivers that requires you to be multilingual, no thanks.
I recall back in 2011-2012 they were on Ebay for ~£130 fully working
This is not a drill everyone, Budget Builds is finally back.
You should be thanking me
It’s great to see you back, and it’s amazing Samsung support actually helped out with a 15 year tablet
This whole thing is just...super awesome! I had no idea this thing existed. As a Steam Deck owner I would have LOVED this back in the day.
Holy sh...
It's actually like a scaled down XP-era laptop.
That must be the cutest little hard drive I've ever seen.
I hope you are okay budget builds
That was a really nice review and an excellent device - never would I have known that something that has a lot in common with the Steam Deck, would have been available in 2005/2006...
And no, these won't stay under the radar now you've done a review about them.
The UMPC I salivated over wishing I could afford at the time was the OQO Model 02. I still kind of want a Model 01+ or Model 02. Being quite rare bits of tech I find it unlikely however :(
I was obsessed the OQO M2 and UMPC's around 2007 at their peak. There were websites dedicated to selling them. They were ahead of their time and very powerful. But also very expensive. Also Netbooks were a thing too.
OQO is definitely top of the class for UMPC's. Model 02's are phenomenal even now-a-days.
@@shockrocker976 Problem is the 02s are all dying now, hard drives failing etc and batteries bloating.
It was only a couple of days ago when I was lying in bed looking for something to watch on UA-cam.
And I thought to myself. I wonder where budget builds is, it's been a while.
And now after seeing the trouble you have had with this. I see why it's been a while.
You have more patience than me mate 🤣
Glad to see you're doing well
Prices of these have increased on eBay so you’re probably right the radar has picked them up. This video was filmed back in October 22 correct?
I would be very impressed if you decided to make a video using this device, rendering, mixing, and all that. A short 30 second sketch about drinking tea and browsing second hand sites would be good.
I got my start on a different channel using windows xp movie maker
There was a tool to overclock those GMA 900 chips in xp to 400 mhz if I remember. I think it also worked on the GMA 950. The software vertex shading ready killed the frame rate for some things still but it helped
Such a wonderful surprise that you uploaded a video! And what an interesting device indeed!
In around 2020, I've got the Lenovo T410 from recycling, it had one of the first SSDs in it (weird 1.8 micro SATA) and the reason why they tossed it out, the "dead" SSD, it decided to lock in Read Only mode. I've searched for firmware for it (it was crucial's OEM model) and found it, tried it and it failed to detect SSD (the issue was that default BIOS setup is AHCI, and software only works with legacy IDE emulation mode, that I've learned much later) I've contacted crucial support being sure that they'll laugh on me at best, but the guy on the line was really nice and helpful, after my complains about firmware missing on their site, he found it and emailed me the files, the same ones I've found and failed to install due to AHCI, but still kudos to them, and shame to intel to removing BIOSEs for "old" motherboards. SSD fixed itself after firmware update by the way, laptop still rocks Windows 10 like a champ.
The amount of patience to go through constant error is truly commendable. Knowing this made it a hell of a lot cooler!
They're upwards of 200 now on ebay
Great video, and kudos to the Samsung support for helping to get it up and running, I'm surprised they didn't just say it's no longer supported.
Though you're putting the device at a potentially high risk by taking that thing online especially without antivirus running on it. Granted there's probably less of them spreading around the internet, though years ago it was possible to almost immediately become infected with worms or trojans due to how far out of date it is and no longer receiving security patches. It's possible that time-frame has mostly passed with less and less XP devices being on the internet, though I would have connected it to an isolated SSID with firewall rules to only allow the device to talk to the internet and nothing else locally as a safety precaution, especially if you have any other retro devices on your network as well.
Those 1.8 inch hard drives were also used on the Dell Inspiron D430. Good news you can upgrade to an MSATA ssd with the right hardware. Made my Dell a lot quicker.
I happen to have one of those (as well as the Samsung NP-Q1) as I fix laptops as a hobby. It can run Windows 10 with all drivers installed, but either the underclocked/underpowered Core2 Duo or the weeny HDD really make it sluggish.
I have a samsung phone (s23u) for the first time now and absolutely love it. Like samsung in general. Now I like them even more. The fact that they spent so much time helping you make the device work is awesome. And this thing looks like such a cool device. Imagine having that back in 2006
Here's me, waiting for mr Budget-Builds to come back from Uni
BRUH I NEVER LOST HOPE
I remember Sony made an even smaller UMPC using the 1.2GHz Core 2 Solo ULV cpu. It used a 4.5" 1024x640 touchscreen, I think, and ran on WinXP Professional. It had a slide-out keyboard. Neat little thing. I think when new, they were asking 2 grand for it...
Never heard of this, but wow thats great, even looks good. reminds me of the wii u pad.
So happy you're back! Good stuff, love dumb handheld computers like this. We missed ya :)
My science teacher had an xp tablet in 2004, as an aspiring nerd I was blown away by such capabilities
Love the old devices you look into and bring back to people's attention
Were people not aware of GPD when they were making tiny laptops/handheld PCs before the Steam Deck?
I really wanted the first GPD Win back when it came out but it was too expensive and hard to get. The newer ones were/are even more expensive :D Even the first one would have been a pretty nice upgrade from my HP Stream 7
No, those are incredibly niche. They primarily sold through crowdfunding and they didn't even sell a lot there.
The legend is back, glad to see a new video. Love the content you make and distribute for us to enjoy!
On the USB stick , i find some older USB2 sticks are better for older devices or doing things like bios/firmware updates. I keep a 512mb ancient hardly USB 2.0 disk about for just stuff like this . I have tried to update firmware on some very high end kit from modern USB3 disks and had problems , throw it on that old 512meg disk and boom problem solved.
The usb boot driver in bios couldn't cope with sticks higher that 2gb and used usb 1.0 speeds as supporters for usb 2 would have needed more code.
I do the same
I genuinely thought this channel was dead. Nice seeing a new fun video from you again 👍
That is an impressive portable computer. That Samsung actually helped troubleshoot such an old computer running an OS not supported for nearly a decade is... impressive :) Sadly the processor, while it supports PAE, does not advertise it in the CPUID instruction. Later revisions of the architecture did. Windows, starting in Windows 8, requires PAE and will refuse to boot. Linux has a patch where you can pass forcepae that will allow it to use PAE even if CPUID does not report it. There were a few patches for Windows 8 (note: not 8.1) but any update will break it. So Windows 7 is the last version you can install without patching and patching is fragile for Windows 8. Windows 11, furthermore, does not support 32-bit computers at all. For the graphics, Intel has a driver for Windows Vista, but not Windows 7. However, the Vista driver appears to work for people who upgraded from Vista to 7 with that GMA 900 (though it is not WDDM driver so no Aero). If you want to try to upgrade to Windows Vista or 7, that is potentially feasible without weird patches.
Wow!
I never even knew these existed!
I'm currently an intel Mac (Catalina) enthusiast (for audio),
but I fondly remember WinXP back when I recorded with Adobe Audition 3.0, and I clutched onto that OS legit until Windows was like:
Come on man! Let it go! LMAO!
XP was one of the most freakin' stable Microsoft OS IMO.
Great video!
my comment was deleted for having a link, but I had said that I know how to fix the archived recovery images, you just need to go into the $oem folder and delete all of the MUI files, and edit the autorun to exclude them. I spent hours trying to fix this same Russian problem when I used those images on my q1 ultra
the sec_rm iso includes all of the OEM restoration stuff, like wallpapers, drivers, screensavers and whatnot, and special 2007 bloatware!
you're like the jeremy clarkson of old dated tech, I love it
Did you run out of budget for the next video? Just kidding lol
I was thinking about UMPCs/Palmtops and thought, "I haven't seen Budget Builds in a while. I wonder what he's posted since I last checked in." I saw this was your newest video and I couldn't remember if I'd watched it. After about twenty seconds I remembered that I had. Then I watched the whole thing again! I just wanted to take a moment to let you know that I enjoy your channel's content and I hope you're doing well wherever you are. Cheers from Kentucky.
God, I remember seeing these things as store demos when I was in high school and being bewildered at the form factor.
They were expensive, too, like $1,300 or something.
They later made versions running Vista that handled as well as you can imagine.
Factoring inflation it really puts into perspective how cheap the Steam Deck really is for what it offers. At least the base model
WOOT!!
You are back!!
I thought you had died or gone to jail!!!!
Now, onto watching the video....
Same chip as the original Asus Eee PC (aka the 701). 900mhz Celeron M 353. It's quite a pringle of a chip but yes, Windows 10 32-bit does somehow run on them lol.
Eeepeecee
Been having a rough time of it and your videos always help me unwind (plus they let me appreciate my hardware alot more 🤣) Welcome back and happy new years 😊
*checks your pulse*
Are you okay? We love you and your videos, and we miss you!
so hyped that there's still new uploads i hadn't seen one in a while, glad to see the retro pc goat back
This thing is even weirder than I thought. I kinda love those UMPCs, they still seem so futuristic to me. I mean, a whole proper PC in an almost pocket size, modern tablets are pretty boring in comparison lol
By the way, if you didn't know, you can fully update Windows XP and actually restore its Update feature with legacy update. I don't know if updating XP would actually make a difference in performance, but that would be an interesting video idea maybe.
Yeah huge props to Samsung for the tech support on this device because you don't know how many people who worked for Samsung at the time when this device was new are still working there now and still remember this device and how it even worked. Also it is amazing how well this device ran the games you threw at it with that GMA 900 adapter that it had in it. A true early SteamDeck.
You okay mate?
Been six months.
Yeah
man have i missed your content. it's always a pleasant surprise when you upload a new video. You make me feel at home, as corny as that sounds. Keep it up!
what happend to this channel??? no uploads for ages
There's a new vid
We need to get you into GMA overclocking. Desktop version runs at 400MHz but ultra mobile was often limited to 166.
Budget I’m ur biggest fan 😍
That SC3K music in the background is so charming. Thank you.
Please come back bro
I had one of these back in the day. I did a torture test on it by having it on and operating while running it through a dishwasher. It survived and was still working when it finished the drying cycle. Shockingly well built machine.
have you stopped making videos?
WOW Cool Stuff. The only UMPC category device i had use is HTC Advantage
But can it run steamos
Someone get bringus studios here now
Man I missed your videos.
Welcome back :)
can it run crysis ?
I was obsessed with UMPC's around 2007 at their peak. There were websites dedicated to selling them. They were ahead of their time and very powerful. But also very expensive. Also Netbooks were a thing too.
I used Toshiba Libretto's pre year 2000 xd. User experience not so different from the one in the video actually. Running Windows 98, some Pentium chip and it was quite fun! Keyboard integrated!
I would never have had the patients or ingenuity to get this thing running. Kudos.
Good stuff, good to see you upload again, and less than a day after I commented on your last video :)
I've always been fascinated by UMPCs and mini laptops back in the day and even today I love my Chuwi Minibook.
i brought myself a Steam Deck the other day, its been amazing so far, and I'm not even close to getting everything I what running it but it's such a refreshing PC experience I've found joy in gaming for the first time in the better part of a year. then along comes your video I find it mind-blowing this is a path we have been down in the past. its also got me nostalgic for the XP tablet experience, need to add windows XP duel boot to my steam deck wish/to-do list XD
For web browsing, there is now Mypal which has a beta release based on Firefox 68 (Quantum) great way to browse the web on XP and 2000 (with extended kernel). I'd recommend giving that a shot at some point.
I was getting worried :) Glad to see you back.
gotta love this guy's content, I've lost interest in pc videos but somehow his format is just as entertaining
I found one of these at a computer recycler in high school (around 2015) and I used the hell out of.
Since this is before the nintendo switch came out, all my friends joked that it was a prototype for the "Nintendo NX" because of the resistive touch screen.
Actually, I think I remember once trying to set up a lan party with it and my Latitude D610 at the lunch table.
Good times.
Welcome back man 😊 hope you've had a great Christmas 😊
Thanks for the video.
In a follow up video you should try to upgrade it as far as possible (faster CPU & mSATA SSD if possible) and compare the results to the benchmarks in this video.
Would be pretty interesting imo.
Greetings! Your video came up as a recommend one for me and I’m glad it did! It was nice seeing someone else with one of these UMPC’s! I have two that I’ve had for quite a while. Both where second hand eBay purchases so I did not have much more than the unit’s which one is lacking a charger! On my main one, it has the stock operating system. I’m not sure if I can make an image to have to install to yours as I’ve never had any luck moving older OS’s from one system to another.
Oh man this device was my dream! Eventually I got a Sony Vaio UX which was brilliant!
Really cool video, man!! Thanks for all of the effort!
Interesting fact: the GMA900 has only pixel shaders, but no vertex shaders, yet support Shader Model 2.0; the GMA basically orders the CPU to calculate vertices and T&L and then the graphic core simply takes the credit.
Yep. Windows Vista didn't officially support the GMA900 or have drivers for it, it was the infamous "Vista Capable" saga.