So glad Ghostship stay true to driller's design philosophy across the new weapons and updates. The versatility in his kit are so amazing I don't want to play anything else.
**every** class's design philosophy is true on the new weapons. I was against the idea that we need more weapons because every weapon needs to accompany class's ideas and gameplay and it would be harder to accomplish the more weapons we have but the way Ghostship did that is amazing now with 3 both primary and secondary weapons for each class i don't know if we really need new weapons again and honestly with the new bar of uniqueness and quality of the gameplay each new weapon introduced i don't know if even Ghostship will reach this new bar but i will be really glad to see them do it again
One of the effects the T3 temperature mod claims is keeping frozen/ignited targets in that state. I'm curious how well that works on Dreadnoughts? Freezing a dread normally requires pretty tight timings to get the damage in, and I'm thinking of running the wave cooker to extend that opportunity.
I think they've fixed blistering necrosis to work properly now. Additionally, a better strategy for using it is adding a weakpoint to an armored portion of the bug then using flamethrower to damage both the bug and the weakpoint. Reverse order also works well, especially with temp shock.
Question: are you sure the Wave Cooker uses individual raycasts? Given other mechanics in this game and how the Wave Cooker appears to work, I would have expected it to draw a volume (probably a capsule). Can you hit a bug behind another bug while AIMING at the bug up front? Suppose I can test this myself if I don't forget... Either way, irrelevant. Either it's like Payday shotguns or Payday Graze :)
Damn, knowing how Blistering Necrosis works is actually really disappointing. I do hope it gets patch because it's such a cool idea for a sort of support build.
I'm the opposite, driller doesn't have primary weapons that benefit from weakpoints besides ice spear, so a multiplier for your radial damage to boost your single target is very welcome. I've had good success on elimination with sludge blast + necrosis
@@kubaGR8 They have been doing well for me. Blister a prat and throw an axe on it, seems to pretty much take it out. Sludge pump shotgun OC helps too when built for numerous fragments. There was some good vids on the "cancer ray".
@@brockwidmann9210 I guess it works if you set off the blister with the AoE part of the axe. So like, land the axe right next ot it on a Praet's ass. Landing them directly on it seems like a bad idea, though.
June 2nd's patch changed the Necrosis mod dramatically: Now, they count as a 1.5x weakspot (+50% damage) and if they're on 2x or x3 weakpoint, they'll instead become a x2 or x3 weakpoint On top of this, blisters now properly transfer all overkill damage to the target; it's no longer capped by it's remaining HP.
A lot of people view Blistering Necrosis as a "Spawn weakspots for your team OC" but honestly with the way it works and it is shipped it seems to be another "Complement your primary" option. You get a ton of value with it from your direct stream damage multiplication damage carrying over and the 80 extra damage is some nice burst. Remember, if they got more legs than two, the warcrimes continue
The issue is how fast the boils break, and the weapon switch time. If you want boils to multiply primary damage you will need to repeatedly swap back to cooker to spawn more boils because the boils get popped very quickly by all your primaries. Swapping back and forth each time winds up slowing things down a lot compared to using boils to boost cooker damage, since you're also attempting to spawn more boils at the same time that way.
@@LazyMaybe With the flamethrower you're better off running temp shock for single target damage. With Cryo the blisters are redundant since you can just freeze enemies; plus you could use Ice Storm for a massive damage boost or just destroy frozen enemies with your Subata/Drills/Allies instead. And the Goo Cannon can't fire through enemies, so requires much more effort to be effective. This on top of Goo having really good DoT, which the boils will ignore entirely. Plus why do that when you can stack Corrosion, Floor Corrosion, Irradiation, and two types of neurotoxin for huge DoT and slowdown. (Wavecooker has it's own Neurotoxin seperate from the grenade/Gunner effects)
@@LazyMaybe I found it useful to spread boils around a crowd or stuff a beefy enemy with them, swap to the crisper (face melter, usually) for a massive damage boost Amazing for deleting any dreadnaught, pretorians and set enemies up for later when I see them away
I do think the Colette does, in a number of its strengths, have a lot of overlap with the Drillers primaries, but I also really like just how reliable it feels at longer ranges. I've never really been too fond of the EPC and the Subata only really feels good with the full auto OC to me, at which point it does feel pretty nice but also becomes pretty unreliable at long ranges. So for that I do quite like this as a new option, even if it does feel a bit weird to use since it doesnt quite give the feedback most other guns do when shooting em. Edit: Okay I have found one big issue with the gun after a while, and that is that it does not make a microwave "ding" sound whenever it overheats, and really thats just inexcusable.
You know it’s starting to seem like the main theme for this set of weapons is meant to broaden utility. They aren’t the strongest weapons outside some niches but they end up providing some support that wasn’t their at the time. And I know many min maxers will see the numbers and think “trash weapon” not seeing this and throw it away. As I think these weapons can be cause for some interesting combos. Having said that, the Wave Cooker has got to be the most complicated tool I think this game has ever seen. And I thought one of Engie’s weapons could of taken that title. But no, this damn thing has so much going on and stuff you just can’t see if you are just looking at numbers and be kind of baffled by. The blisters OC being just the cherry on top of this Erdrich horror of a dessert. So glad this video could end up helping me what I want out of this weapon. Edit: Do got to wonder if those alternative modes would be useful if you use them as the main weapon. Like always being on wide mode, Etc. Wonder how useful that would be.
People who min max don't know what they're missing, especially with the crossbow or the wave cooker. Pheromone darts on a Boltshark maxed for ammo efficiency makes for a great utility for getting bugs to attack each other, with very little need to replenish ammo if you use the darts right and remember to pick up any you miss.
About Blistering Necrosis: enemy projectiles can hit and hurt them. If you put a blister in the mouth of an enemy that can spit projectiles, it will block the shot and deal +50% dmg to the enemy itself.
After running a several missions with it, i very much liked it. Easily, the Cooker is a perfect successor for the Heavy Hitter EPC when used with Sludge Pump. Perfect secondary for the Sticky Flames CRSPR too. Just love the feeling of bursting enemies from the inside out.
Just did a haz5 with the mega power supply. It was like spraying the grunts with boiling hotdog water. Yeah it worked but I was REALLY regretting not using the penetrant OC.
I love the colette, idk why it gets so much hate... Being able to clear giant swarms on naedocites from the other side of the map just feels so satisfiying. Also I noticed that the desintegration kill animation prevents exploders from detonating which comes super handy to save your team mates from being sneak upon.
Blistering necrosis has been cleanly patched: - Weakpoint bonuses now apply when shooting blistering necrosis blisters. - If a boil from blistering necrosis is on a weak point that gives a higher damage multiplier than 1.5x the boil will copy the weak points multiplier. - Damage transferred from shooting blisters is no longer dependent on how much health the blisters have left. - Removed the cap for how much damage the blisters can transfer to the enemy at once.
Edit: Blistering Necrosis has been fixed! See ua-cam.com/video/TnKzURdC24M/v-deo.html Also, here's a more accurate explanation of wave cooker hit detection: ua-cam.com/video/UyEQMmi7G5U/v-deo.html If it's unclear, all footage is hazard 5 and 4-player scaled enemies except for the footage of blistering necrosis, which is hazard 4 1-player scaled so that the damage numbers are straightforward. Other drg test/info videos: ua-cam.com/play/PLqTo6tQ9tCOrABARyls3C94qzGo6TW3h_.html
Even though they patched repeated tier 5 A, it will still work with any stick flame build. Just lay down some fire, use the cooker to hit the temp shock whilst they are in the fire, and you can trigger the temp shock over and over as long as they bug is in stick flames! it is possibly the best single target damage to ammo consumption the driller has as this time.
Blisters got buffed a couple weeks after this video came out - Weakpoint bonuses now apply when shooting blistering necrosis blisters. - If a boil from blistering necrosis is on a weak point that gives a higher damage multiplier than 1.5x the boil will copy the weak points multiplier. - Damage transferred from shooting blisters is no longer dependent on how much health the blisters have left. - Removed the cap for how much damage the blisters can transfer to the enemy at once.
Yeah, I talked about these changes(and some others), it's just awkwardly split up across a couple more videos due to when the updates came out. They're uh... ua-cam.com/video/TnKzURdC24M/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/video/UyEQMmi7G5U/v-deo.html ...in these two.
Man the weapon is so strange compared to anything else in the game. Its a shame necrosis performs the way it does currently. Seems like it could be a very fun over clock with some fixes!
I personally enjoy being a war criminal with the sludge pump, tier 3a, 5a, radioactive oc, and neuro nades. Something about seeing all the status effects pile up is just sooo majestic, especially when my fellow dwarves add to it. I had clipped myself melting a bulk dett with my squad, with the slow from both my cwc and my sludge, the acid dot, the neuro from my nades and wave cooker, rads from the oc, electric from my engie and scout, his ifg and pheromone arrow, and heat from engies beamer.... There was like 9 different stats on the thing and it dissolved so fast it couldn't even move 5 meters from where it spawned directly in front of us lmao
I notice that the Temp-ShockOTron seems to outshine the other builds for gun, similar to how people almost always run Thinc-Containment-Field on the EPC. Which is a shame because I also like the DoT stacking build but blowing up hordes of fronzen/burning grunts while doing big damage to the big bugs at the same time just seems way better.
I used to run thin containment field on EPC until I realized that I could build it for fire damage and use it to set my sludge puddles on fire, making for a really decent crowd control build since I only need to shoot the sludge a couple times to set it on fire and then keep on laying down sludge since the sticky flames on the sludge will keep on spready as long as there's more sludge connected to it, and it will remain for as long as the sludge remains. Honestly, it's better than a sticky flames build for the flamethrower, though it does leave you without a decent ranged secondary for far away targets that need to be taken out.
I think the devs knocked it out of the park with this secondary. With boiler ray builds I can finally comfortably take single-target, utility, or ammo-hungry primaries which opens up a lot of builds for Driller. Definitely my favourite of the bunch.
A lot of the new secondaries feel very... gimmicky? The Wave Cooker is probably the biggest example of this. It's a decent enough gun on its own, albeit overlapping with the Driller's primaries. But the whole Temperature Shock thing feels like one giant gimmick of constant weapon swapping. To each his own, obviously, but it seems like far too much work to me.
@@FallingSport Oh, sure - nothing specifically wrong with it. It just explains why I've spent so much time trying to figure out what to do with those things and coming up blank. Neat ideas, for sure, but probably not for me. Nice to see the game being supported regardless.
I just came up with the exact same ideas of using the wave cooker with ice spear and sludge blast, super cool breakdown of that idea though and loved the throughly broke down analysis’ thanks for the great content.
Honestly I am growing to like the Sludge Blast and Colette combo a lot. Ice spear is also really good. It also offers a refreshing way to play driller.
love that this vid cleared up the wave cookers damage type and the effect of boiler ray. I had interpreted boiler ray as an effect like shatter for the cryo, but knowing its actually like the t5 crispr mod is super helpful. I was also confused why it didn't seem to do double or normal damage to mactera, doing half fire damage clears that up too. I still think this gun could use some balancing, focus lens seems very useless for not increasing damage potential per ammo or per heat, and tiers 2 and 3 are pretty boring/obvious for a vast majority of builds. that plus the guns weak performance with raw damage makes it pretty boring to build, you generally optimize for secondary effects and sustain and thats it. the dps focused ocs, wide lens, and clip size don't have much use.
Wait, maybe it was patched or something, but, isn't collete 3b gives you changing temperatures to neutral(freezing burnings and heating frozens) and temerature shock, and 5c just spreads temperature for chain reaction?
t3b spreads temperature from frozen and burning targets to neighboring bugs. t5c instantly spreads 50 cold or 25-50 heat to everything in a 2 meter radius of where the bug gets temp shocked. the problem that lazy missed, is that t5c can only take effect when the shock occurs, which is only a 25% chance. without t3b shots won't spread temperature until the shock occurs.
I'm shocked by how much I enjoyed this weapon. Even my unoptimized random builds felt satisfying. The range is amazing and the wide firing scope means it deletes far away small targets. The ammo economy is solid and the sound effects are very satisfying.
I like to use Gamma lense along side the sludge. If you build it right you can completely remove all movespeed from some big enemies aswell as deal huge amounts of DOT.
This has to be one of the best video game videos I've ever seen. You answered many questions and some I didn't even know I wanted to ask. You are the gold standard for videos that explain things, thank you.
So on the DRG wiki it says that the blistering necrosis weak spots have the frozen material flag, does this mean that the ice storm damage bonus to frozen creatures applies to the blister? I've been running the two together and it feels like it does, but I'm not really positive. It still doesn't seem like a bad build since you can get more damage in on targets that are harder for ice storm to freeze.
Honestly for me the wave cooker without the temp shock mod is borderline unusable. The damage output was way too low so it just ate through ammo. But after unlocking that mod it can shred most enemies combined with the flamethrower or cryo cannon. Note: i have yet to unlock any of the overclocks for it so i cant comment on those.
For me Wavecooker outshines every other secondary when paired with Cryocannon Every Cryocannon user ran into this situation once - there is a huge batch of frozen enemies and what to do with them? Pickaxe? Subata? Axe? Even C4? This gun with little to no ammo used just evaporates patch of frozen enemies + from my observation you only need to freeze 1 enemy in order to kill a whole batch of enemies - temperature amplifier spreads Freeze to other enemies. Not Cold, Freeze (icicle state) Even on haz 5 it is very unlikely that you'll run out of ammo with cryo + wavecooker due to how ammo preserving this combo is. Definetely worth testing out ;)
14:23 This is not a good move especially on cryo. Bugs cannot get much slower than frozen and it guarantees a chain where sometimes just the shock cloud wouldn't.
Molly getting in the was as per usual at ~7:50 Also, I really have been using this weapon all wrong, and am very glad I clicked on this video. Thank you for the information.
Woah this is such a comprehensive breakdown. Love how you discuss how diff builds perform while always considering the cooker's role in your entire loadout
You know talking about how the driller got a new wave clear option, when he's packed full of those makes me wonder how the new guns would fare on other classes. I'm curious if the other clean OC can be used for something, the liquid cooling something one. it seems pretty good, esp if you stack fire rate or forgo heat management otherwise.
The cooling OC is fine, it's just that mega power suppy's benefits are so huge. Increases your ammo by 50% if you take damage, and gives a big enough RoF boost that even if you take one of the cooling mods in tier 2 instead of RoF, you still end up with higher RoF.
I suppose that puts a bow on the situation with most clean OCs. a lot are good, but none are *exceptional* so there's no reason to take them. thanks though!
RIP the wavecooker, they totally butchered it in a recent patch by "fixing" it. this gun is really just absolute garbage on haz 5 and furthermore on EDD haz.
This breakdown was incredibly useful and very well put together. I play on haz 3 primarily and I was somewhat disappointed in how this weapon performed when I tested it out. Thanks for giving me some ideas on how to tweak it a bit. I would love to see breakdowns like this for every weapon eventually. Great work.
hello, this is insane data, did the necrosis OC get patched since ? i went for a gamma contamination build bc I like it a lot (like you), for the 4th perks, why A over B ? I was thinking like this : if better fire rate => more chance to apply the radiate effect quickly but I might get wrong on this, and with the slug pump, what is your build for sinergy ? thanks you :D
BN did get patched after this: ua-cam.com/video/TnKzURdC24M/v-deo.html Also either 4A or 4B is fine. You can't get the actual beam hitbox to be very wide at all with gamma contamination, so going with rate of fire is reasonable, but being potentially able to catch more bugs is still nice.
One of my favourite things to do is to cover a dreadnaught in blisters, then charge shot with impact damage overclock on the sludge pump. You can nearly 2 shot the twin dreadnaughts like that.
Dude your DRG info videos are so fkin unbelievably good. All clips are amazing, wether it's the shooting range mod thingy or the real use clips. That's a shit ton of effort to make this, man, appreciate it very much. Definitely one of the most interesting guns in this game. Before release I thought this would be the least interesting new secondary :D 12:23 thats how I actually use it, the combo to get rid of a group of guards/slashers/macteras :) 19:05 but what if you keep shooting with wavecooker only? How much better than non-OC is it then (on tanky targets)? 19:55 DUDE LOL Current fav: CCBBC-LCS, paired with a BBBCB-TC Cryo, heavily relying on axes for the single target dmg. But after this video I'll try to play around alot with this gun! Notes for myself (I guess I'll watch this at least 3-5 times lol): 5:26 7:12 8:40
As a driller main I love this video! Thanks for making such a comprehensive and easy to follow explanation of such a complicated weapon. Would love to see more builds from you as well.
I love that this weapon works so well with Sludge blast, it really is like a support weapon. Temp shock is cool but I dislike using flamethrower and cryo cannon
How much of this is still accurate? Also that last recommended build is literally the same as the one I was just about to take in, except I took more ammo rather than wider range. Thanks for explaining how the damage works for this gun, I kept thinking that shrinking the crosshair would make it easier to hit things, and save ammo, but it was pretty much a total waste this entire time! I would say that it's still worth it cause of weakpoint damage, but if it still doesn't do weakpoint damage to this day, then I have zero reason to not take wide lens over focused lens in nearly any case!
Flawless overview of it's strengths/weaknesses, usage cases, scenarios. The video sports excellent BGM too! Recognized everyone and made me smile while being educated on the weapon.
Regarding gamma contamination, I feel like different enemies have different proc chances for the DoT. Oppressors I've shot with it almost never receive the effect, while the odds for rival robots feels much higher than 25%. I've found this OC particularly useful when tagging those wily patrol bots and distant sniper turrets.
Wow that was very informative! At first look and trying the weapon out I really did not like it (Too addicted to the Subata I guess) and after watching this it looking a lot better!
The wave cooker is a genuinely terrifying weapon irl. Like fuck, you're cooking them alive with it similar to a well, microwave! Like that's gotta be a war crime!
I'll usually play Subata when Sludgepumping, but recently the radiation along with the mod that is good for sludgepump (dunno if T5A or T5C) has been a godsend working with my friend who likes to waste ammo at all opportunities. Really efficient is what I'm trying to say. It feels correct to have.
i second Lazy's fav sludge build. Its got decent single target, aoe, and CC and you can change how you play depending on the situation to kinda enhance one of those. The CC esp is way more consistent with slidge/cooker combo, bugs even on haz 5 come to almost a complete halt. and on top of that, you dont get in the way of heat/freeze effects. great team build like cryo, but still fun and effective.
This was very well made. The footage fits the information displayed perfectly and makes understanding what difference everything makes much easier to understand.
I see tracks from Rabi-Ribi's OST in the credits and heard them in the video, have I come across a UA-camr that is a fan of said game? I love Rabi-Ribi and am currently playing through Cocoa Mode at Hell difficulty.
So let me get this straight, a cop flips on his lights to pull you over, you don’t , you split some lanes, he pulls ahead of you and then you start to drive like a maniac trying to get away? You say you’re not putting anyone in danger but driving +100 MPH on a 2 lane road weaving traffic certainly is. That cop has every responsibility to get you off the road ASAP when you’re driving like that. His cars got lights and sirens so drivers know he’s coming and can get out of the way. I’d bet most of these poor folks that you were putting in danger with this stunt, never even noticed you until you were on top of them. I can’t believe how completely inconsiderate some people can be for the well being of others. If you didn’t want to get a dumb ticket, well congrats you gave the police a dozen very legitimate reasons to put you away, which you for some reason decided to post all the evidence of on the internet. Real genius.
The "can't hit weak points" is a truth with some modifications. It can't deal weak point damage, but it will deal damage to weak points and thereby count towards popping them on enemies such as Mactera Goo Bombers and Bulk Detonators, and more importantly the new Rock Pox-Infected enemies which it will basically instantly kill due to their low weak point health and the fact that they instantly die once all weak points have been popped.
It feels way too powerful. I can snipe many web spitters with this thing better than scout with gk2 or m1000. I hope they'll buff the scout primaries and give us Haz6
At first I wasn't that impressed with the weapon, the sound and effects were not that satisfying, and the different lenses didn't seem to change much. However now with the exothermic reactor it synergizes really well with a flamethrower, and the necrosis OC is pretty fun on bigger targets. Plus it's REALLY useful on the any of the small aliens at any range, any deletes exploders with them actually exploding. Plus with the wide angle lens, it destroys swarms of neocytes better than anything else.
The first overclock I ever got for Diller was gamma ray, I still use it lol. I can delete large targets pretty quick AND essentially fire and forget at long range targets like spitters and sniper turrets?! Wave Cooker my beloved...
This gun continues the trend of most, if not all of driller's weapons violating the Geneva Convention, or being easily modifiable in a way that would do so. About the only safe ones are C4 (and barely so) and the HE grenade, unless it's made of plastic.
I hated the driller's first two wacky secondaries when i started playing as a driller. But... After unlocking my personal handheld microwave of destruction, I fell in love with driller finally
So glad Ghostship stay true to driller's design philosophy across the new weapons and updates. The versatility in his kit are so amazing I don't want to play anything else.
You mean the various flavors of war crime?
Driller main best main
Also warcrimes
What philosophy, war crimes?
**every** class's design philosophy is true on the new weapons. I was against the idea that we need more weapons because every weapon needs to accompany class's ideas and gameplay and it would be harder to accomplish the more weapons we have but the way Ghostship did that is amazing
now with 3 both primary and secondary weapons for each class i don't know if we really need new weapons again and honestly with the new bar of uniqueness and quality of the gameplay each new weapon introduced i don't know if even Ghostship will reach this new bar but i will be really glad to see them do it again
I thought the fire/ice spreading was the major part of the chain reaction and not the shocks mist, good to know that it isnt
Another excellent DRG weapon breakdown video. Please upload more of these!
"roughly as good as the other secondaries". I want to like the temp shock feature, but I hate switching weapons every 5 seconds.
One of the effects the T3 temperature mod claims is keeping frozen/ignited targets in that state. I'm curious how well that works on Dreadnoughts? Freezing a dread normally requires pretty tight timings to get the damage in, and I'm thinking of running the wave cooker to extend that opportunity.
I can never seem to build up statuses on dreads. It never works.
@@the_furry_inside_your_walls639 dreads cannot be ignited, but they can be frozen, though it takes a good bit to do so
I think they've fixed blistering necrosis to work properly now. Additionally, a better strategy for using it is adding a weakpoint to an armored portion of the bug then using flamethrower to damage both the bug and the weakpoint. Reverse order also works well, especially with temp shock.
Driller is the chef. Brûlée, fridge and mircowave.
Rabi Ribi my beloved
Question: are you sure the Wave Cooker uses individual raycasts? Given other mechanics in this game and how the Wave Cooker appears to work, I would have expected it to draw a volume (probably a capsule). Can you hit a bug behind another bug while AIMING at the bug up front? Suppose I can test this myself if I don't forget...
Either way, irrelevant. Either it's like Payday shotguns or Payday Graze :)
Damn, knowing how Blistering Necrosis works is actually really disappointing. I do hope it gets patch because it's such a cool idea for a sort of support build.
I'm the opposite, driller doesn't have primary weapons that benefit from weakpoints besides ice spear, so a multiplier for your radial damage to boost your single target is very welcome. I've had good success on elimination with sludge blast + necrosis
The impact axes work well on the blisters from Necrosis ;)
@@brockwidmann9210 Do they? I thought that one-shotting the blister would mean only doing the 80 poison damage.
@@kubaGR8 They have been doing well for me. Blister a prat and throw an axe on it, seems to pretty much take it out. Sludge pump shotgun OC helps too when built for numerous fragments.
There was some good vids on the "cancer ray".
@@brockwidmann9210 I guess it works if you set off the blister with the AoE part of the axe. So like, land the axe right next ot it on a Praet's ass.
Landing them directly on it seems like a bad idea, though.
June 2nd's patch changed the Necrosis mod dramatically:
Now, they count as a 1.5x weakspot (+50% damage) and if they're on 2x or x3 weakpoint, they'll instead become a x2 or x3 weakpoint
On top of this, blisters now properly transfer all overkill damage to the target; it's no longer capped by it's remaining HP.
So it's a viable overclock now?
@@andreacarnevale3152 So it would seem.
@@justafurrywithinternet317 I can't not read that phrase in Commodore James Norrington's voice, from the first Pirates movie...
@@evage99 Yeah, I didn't even think of that.
Thanks for the info!
A lot of people view Blistering Necrosis as a "Spawn weakspots for your team OC" but honestly with the way it works and it is shipped it seems to be another "Complement your primary" option. You get a ton of value with it from your direct stream damage multiplication damage carrying over and the 80 extra damage is some nice burst.
Remember, if they got more legs than two, the warcrimes continue
The issue is how fast the boils break, and the weapon switch time. If you want boils to multiply primary damage you will need to repeatedly swap back to cooker to spawn more boils because the boils get popped very quickly by all your primaries. Swapping back and forth each time winds up slowing things down a lot compared to using boils to boost cooker damage, since you're also attempting to spawn more boils at the same time that way.
@@LazyMaybe With the flamethrower you're better off running temp shock for single target damage.
With Cryo the blisters are redundant since you can just freeze enemies; plus you could use Ice Storm for a massive damage boost or just destroy frozen enemies with your Subata/Drills/Allies instead.
And the Goo Cannon can't fire through enemies, so requires much more effort to be effective. This on top of Goo having really good DoT, which the boils will ignore entirely. Plus why do that when you can stack Corrosion, Floor Corrosion, Irradiation, and two types of neurotoxin for huge DoT and slowdown. (Wavecooker has it's own Neurotoxin seperate from the grenade/Gunner effects)
@@LazyMaybe I found it useful to spread boils around a crowd or stuff a beefy enemy with them, swap to the crisper (face melter, usually) for a massive damage boost
Amazing for deleting any dreadnaught, pretorians and set enemies up for later when I see them away
For future reference please not that blistering necrosis has been patched
Funny how it would combo really well with a subata
I do think the Colette does, in a number of its strengths, have a lot of overlap with the Drillers primaries, but I also really like just how reliable it feels at longer ranges.
I've never really been too fond of the EPC and the Subata only really feels good with the full auto OC to me, at which point it does feel pretty nice but also becomes pretty unreliable at long ranges. So for that I do quite like this as a new option, even if it does feel a bit weird to use since it doesnt quite give the feedback most other guns do when shooting em.
Edit: Okay I have found one big issue with the gun after a while, and that is that it does not make a microwave "ding" sound whenever it overheats, and really thats just inexcusable.
Driller does the ding when you overheat it while shooting an enemy
I'd say they fixed it, I remember the gun making a ding sound. 😂
You know it’s starting to seem like the main theme for this set of weapons is meant to broaden utility. They aren’t the strongest weapons outside some niches but they end up providing some support that wasn’t their at the time. And I know many min maxers will see the numbers and think “trash weapon” not seeing this and throw it away. As I think these weapons can be cause for some interesting combos.
Having said that, the Wave Cooker has got to be the most complicated tool I think this game has ever seen. And I thought one of Engie’s weapons could of taken that title. But no, this damn thing has so much going on and stuff you just can’t see if you are just looking at numbers and be kind of baffled by. The blisters OC being just the cherry on top of this Erdrich horror of a dessert. So glad this video could end up helping me what I want out of this weapon.
Edit: Do got to wonder if those alternative modes would be useful if you use them as the main weapon. Like always being on wide mode, Etc. Wonder how useful that would be.
People who min max don't know what they're missing, especially with the crossbow or the wave cooker. Pheromone darts on a Boltshark maxed for ammo efficiency makes for a great utility for getting bugs to attack each other, with very little need to replenish ammo if you use the darts right and remember to pick up any you miss.
About Blistering Necrosis: enemy projectiles can hit and hurt them. If you put a blister in the mouth of an enemy that can spit projectiles, it will block the shot and deal +50% dmg to the enemy itself.
Get trolled, acid spitter
After running a several missions with it, i very much liked it. Easily, the Cooker is a perfect successor for the Heavy Hitter EPC when used with Sludge Pump. Perfect secondary for the Sticky Flames CRSPR too. Just love the feeling of bursting enemies from the inside out.
It's great with a cryo cannon built for quick freezing enemies too.
Just did a haz5 with the mega power supply.
It was like spraying the grunts with boiling hotdog water. Yeah it worked but I was REALLY regretting not using the penetrant OC.
I love the colette, idk why it gets so much hate... Being able to clear giant swarms on naedocites from the other side of the map just feels so satisfiying.
Also I noticed that the desintegration kill animation prevents exploders from detonating which comes super handy to save your team mates from being sneak upon.
People who hate on the wave cooker don't know what they're missing.
Preventing exploders from detonating feels very nice on Escort missions with Exploder outbreaks...
Blistering necrosis has been cleanly patched:
- Weakpoint bonuses now apply when shooting blistering necrosis blisters.
- If a boil from blistering necrosis is on a weak point that gives a higher damage multiplier than 1.5x the boil will copy the weak points multiplier.
- Damage transferred from shooting blisters is no longer dependent on how much health the blisters have left.
- Removed the cap for how much damage the blisters can transfer to the enemy at once.
Edit: Blistering Necrosis has been fixed! See ua-cam.com/video/TnKzURdC24M/v-deo.html
Also, here's a more accurate explanation of wave cooker hit detection: ua-cam.com/video/UyEQMmi7G5U/v-deo.html
If it's unclear, all footage is hazard 5 and 4-player scaled enemies except for the footage of blistering necrosis, which is hazard 4 1-player scaled so that the damage numbers are straightforward.
Other drg test/info videos: ua-cam.com/play/PLqTo6tQ9tCOrABARyls3C94qzGo6TW3h_.html
How do you disable enemy AI?
Also does cooker benefit from frozen status damage multiplier? Think I saw someone mentioning about it on discord
I use cheatengine. And yes, cooker benefits from frozen.
@@LazyMaybe Ah damn, hoped disabling AI was just a matter of changing something in difficulty files
Even though they patched repeated tier 5 A, it will still work with any stick flame build. Just lay down some fire, use the cooker to hit the temp shock whilst they are in the fire, and you can trigger the temp shock over and over as long as they bug is in stick flames! it is possibly the best single target damage to ammo consumption the driller has as this time.
How do you get the test area you film your videos in?
Blisters got buffed a couple weeks after this video came out
- Weakpoint bonuses now apply when shooting blistering necrosis blisters.
- If a boil from blistering necrosis is on a weak point that gives a higher damage multiplier than 1.5x the boil will copy the weak points multiplier.
- Damage transferred from shooting blisters is no longer dependent on how much health the blisters have left.
- Removed the cap for how much damage the blisters can transfer to the enemy at once.
Yeah, I talked about these changes(and some others), it's just awkwardly split up across a couple more videos due to when the updates came out. They're uh...
ua-cam.com/video/TnKzURdC24M/v-deo.html
ua-cam.com/video/UyEQMmi7G5U/v-deo.html
...in these two.
Man the weapon is so strange compared to anything else in the game. Its a shame necrosis performs the way it does currently. Seems like it could be a very fun over clock with some fixes!
I personally enjoy being a war criminal with the sludge pump, tier 3a, 5a, radioactive oc, and neuro nades. Something about seeing all the status effects pile up is just sooo majestic, especially when my fellow dwarves add to it. I had clipped myself melting a bulk dett with my squad, with the slow from both my cwc and my sludge, the acid dot, the neuro from my nades and wave cooker, rads from the oc, electric from my engie and scout, his ifg and pheromone arrow, and heat from engies beamer.... There was like 9 different stats on the thing and it dissolved so fast it couldn't even move 5 meters from where it spawned directly in front of us lmao
I notice that the Temp-ShockOTron seems to outshine the other builds for gun, similar to how people almost always run Thinc-Containment-Field on the EPC.
Which is a shame because I also like the DoT stacking build but blowing up hordes of fronzen/burning grunts while doing big damage to the big bugs at the same time just seems way better.
sludge pump on its own is really strong though, GC microwave is more to compliment that than the other way around
I used to run thin containment field on EPC until I realized that I could build it for fire damage and use it to set my sludge puddles on fire, making for a really decent crowd control build since I only need to shoot the sludge a couple times to set it on fire and then keep on laying down sludge since the sticky flames on the sludge will keep on spready as long as there's more sludge connected to it, and it will remain for as long as the sludge remains. Honestly, it's better than a sticky flames build for the flamethrower, though it does leave you without a decent ranged secondary for far away targets that need to be taken out.
I think the devs knocked it out of the park with this secondary. With boiler ray builds I can finally comfortably take single-target, utility, or ammo-hungry primaries which opens up a lot of builds for Driller. Definitely my favourite of the bunch.
Loved the "not pictured: a team of randoms doing this competently". great breakdown too.
A lot of the new secondaries feel very... gimmicky? The Wave Cooker is probably the biggest example of this. It's a decent enough gun on its own, albeit overlapping with the Driller's primaries. But the whole Temperature Shock thing feels like one giant gimmick of constant weapon swapping. To each his own, obviously, but it seems like far too much work to me.
They definitely are, but I like it because the other secondaries aren’t gimmicky so it just lets you try more things.
@@FallingSport Oh, sure - nothing specifically wrong with it. It just explains why I've spent so much time trying to figure out what to do with those things and coming up blank. Neat ideas, for sure, but probably not for me. Nice to see the game being supported regardless.
I just came up with the exact same ideas of using the wave cooker with ice spear and sludge blast, super cool breakdown of that idea though and loved the throughly broke down analysis’ thanks for the great content.
Honestly I am growing to like the Sludge Blast and Colette combo a lot. Ice spear is also really good. It also offers a refreshing way to play driller.
(Am I the only one who doesn't take a tier 4 mod for the fancy animation?)
So basically its a payday 2 shotgun laser beam
love seeing some breakdowns for the new content, i am too busy with work to do the legwork right now so this is awesome
The way this thing shoots reminds me of how the BFG works in the original Doom games
I think part of the Blistering Necrosis mechanics were re-used for Rockpox bugs.
love that this vid cleared up the wave cookers damage type and the effect of boiler ray. I had interpreted boiler ray as an effect like shatter for the cryo, but knowing its actually like the t5 crispr mod is super helpful. I was also confused why it didn't seem to do double or normal damage to mactera, doing half fire damage clears that up too.
I still think this gun could use some balancing, focus lens seems very useless for not increasing damage potential per ammo or per heat, and tiers 2 and 3 are pretty boring/obvious for a vast majority of builds. that plus the guns weak performance with raw damage makes it pretty boring to build, you generally optimize for secondary effects and sustain and thats it. the dps focused ocs, wide lens, and clip size don't have much use.
Wait, maybe it was patched or something, but, isn't collete 3b gives you changing temperatures to neutral(freezing burnings and heating frozens) and temerature shock, and 5c just spreads temperature for chain reaction?
t3b spreads temperature from frozen and burning targets to neighboring bugs. t5c instantly spreads 50 cold or 25-50 heat to everything in a 2 meter radius of where the bug gets temp shocked. the problem that lazy missed, is that t5c can only take effect when the shock occurs, which is only a 25% chance. without t3b shots won't spread temperature until the shock occurs.
I really wanted to like this weapon but TCF is just way too powerful (damage and utility wise) so I always end up switching back.
I'm shocked by how much I enjoyed this weapon. Even my unoptimized random builds felt satisfying. The range is amazing and the wide firing scope means it deletes far away small targets. The ammo economy is solid and the sound effects are very satisfying.
I like to use Gamma lense along side the sludge. If you build it right you can completely remove all movespeed from some big enemies aswell as deal huge amounts of DOT.
This has to be one of the best video game videos I've ever seen. You answered many questions and some I didn't even know I wanted to ask. You are the gold standard for videos that explain things, thank you.
Thanks for "Aurora Palace" from Rabi-Ribi
So on the DRG wiki it says that the blistering necrosis weak spots have the frozen material flag, does this mean that the ice storm damage bonus to frozen creatures applies to the blister? I've been running the two together and it feels like it does, but I'm not really positive. It still doesn't seem like a bad build since you can get more damage in on targets that are harder for ice storm to freeze.
The problem i have with this weapon is it does what the cryo and flame thrower already do MELT HORDES. Driller has very limited single target damage.
Honestly for me the wave cooker without the temp shock mod is borderline unusable. The damage output was way too low so it just ate through ammo. But after unlocking that mod it can shred most enemies combined with the flamethrower or cryo cannon.
Note: i have yet to unlock any of the overclocks for it so i cant comment on those.
For me Wavecooker outshines every other secondary when paired with Cryocannon
Every Cryocannon user ran into this situation once - there is a huge batch of frozen enemies and what to do with them? Pickaxe? Subata? Axe? Even C4? This gun with little to no ammo used just evaporates patch of frozen enemies
+ from my observation you only need to freeze 1 enemy in order to kill a whole batch of enemies - temperature amplifier spreads Freeze to other enemies. Not Cold, Freeze (icicle state)
Even on haz 5 it is very unlikely that you'll run out of ammo with cryo + wavecooker due to how ammo preserving this combo is.
Definetely worth testing out ;)
14:23
This is not a good move especially on cryo. Bugs cannot get much slower than frozen and it guarantees a chain where sometimes just the shock cloud wouldn't.
The Blistering Necrosis boils can block projectiles.
I once covered a Hiveguard’s face with them and she couldn’t shoot a single fireball
Could the blistering necrosis OC allow for growths on armor?
Maybe it'll help bypass defences like oppressor's or dreadnaught's armor?
it does
That music when he talks about blistering necrosis just says "oh boy I gotta explain this one"
I fucking heard that Rabi Ribi soundtrack, you can't hide from me
what in the fuck is necrosis, the clown music is completely appropriate
Blistering could be potentially pretty good if you use it on dreadnoughts from the front
What is the name of this training room where you spawn enemies? Could someone tell me?
Heard rabi ribi ost, instantly knew was a man of culture.
Hell yeah Ive been waiting for this, Thanks Lazy
I love deep rock science. Thank you for your service miner!
I don’t use ether of the t 4 weapon perks just so I can use the fidget animation.
This is something small, but I appreciate the mod you're using for your damage numbers. It reminds me of borderlands 1 or 2 damage numbers.
Molly getting in the was as per usual at ~7:50
Also, I really have been using this weapon all wrong, and am very glad I clicked on this video. Thank you for the information.
Woah this is such a comprehensive breakdown. Love how you discuss how diff builds perform while always considering the cooker's role in your entire loadout
YES YES YES I wanted to understand this gun more. Thank you
You know talking about how the driller got a new wave clear option, when he's packed full of those makes me wonder how the new guns would fare on other classes.
I'm curious if the other clean OC can be used for something, the liquid cooling something one. it seems pretty good, esp if you stack fire rate or forgo heat management otherwise.
The cooling OC is fine, it's just that mega power suppy's benefits are so huge. Increases your ammo by 50% if you take damage, and gives a big enough RoF boost that even if you take one of the cooling mods in tier 2 instead of RoF, you still end up with higher RoF.
I suppose that puts a bow on the situation with most clean OCs. a lot are good, but none are *exceptional* so there's no reason to take them.
thanks though!
You know whats weird though?
You can give the flying rocks in escort duty boils
RIP the wavecooker, they totally butchered it in a recent patch by "fixing" it. this gun is really just absolute garbage on haz 5 and furthermore on EDD haz.
What they did?
This breakdown was incredibly useful and very well put together. I play on haz 3 primarily and I was somewhat disappointed in how this weapon performed when I tested it out. Thanks for giving me some ideas on how to tweak it a bit. I would love to see breakdowns like this for every weapon eventually. Great work.
"I love you, kitchen gun!"
What a stupid and unintuitive weapon.
The kitchen appliance goes hard
You're doing Karl's work, comrade, thank you.
These are the in-depth analysis vids I never knew I needed.
Amazing work and thanks :)
Blasted kitchen appliance...
hello, this is insane data, did the necrosis OC get patched since ? i went for a gamma contamination build bc I like it a lot (like you), for the 4th perks, why A over B ? I was thinking like this : if better fire rate => more chance to apply the radiate effect quickly but I might get wrong on this, and with the slug pump, what is your build for sinergy ? thanks you :D
BN did get patched after this: ua-cam.com/video/TnKzURdC24M/v-deo.html
Also either 4A or 4B is fine. You can't get the actual beam hitbox to be very wide at all with gamma contamination, so going with rate of fire is reasonable, but being potentially able to catch more bugs is still nice.
@@LazyMaybe and which perks and OC you recommand with gamma contamination with the sludge pump ?
One of my favourite things to do is to cover a dreadnaught in blisters, then charge shot with impact damage overclock on the sludge pump. You can nearly 2 shot the twin dreadnaughts like that.
Excellent breakdown !
Makes me actually want to try out the wavecooker .. Have felt it too weak everytime i did so.
Helpful and very underrated content
Cooker was very confusing for me to understand at first but this helped a lot
Hypothermia- hypothermia boom 💥 😂😂 this my kind of use
Dude your DRG info videos are so fkin unbelievably good. All clips are amazing, wether it's the shooting range mod thingy or the real use clips. That's a shit ton of effort to make this, man, appreciate it very much. Definitely one of the most interesting guns in this game. Before release I thought this would be the least interesting new secondary :D
12:23 thats how I actually use it, the combo to get rid of a group of guards/slashers/macteras :)
19:05 but what if you keep shooting with wavecooker only? How much better than non-OC is it then (on tanky targets)?
19:55 DUDE LOL
Current fav: CCBBC-LCS, paired with a BBBCB-TC Cryo, heavily relying on axes for the single target dmg.
But after this video I'll try to play around alot with this gun!
Notes for myself (I guess I'll watch this at least 3-5 times lol):
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7:12
8:40
Is this guide still up to date or not anymore?
There is a followup talking about wave cooker and minigun, you might want to watch it too
As a driller main I love this video! Thanks for making such a comprehensive and easy to follow explanation of such a complicated weapon. Would love to see more builds from you as well.
Neat it's a payday 2 shotgun any hit full damage
Not quite, I get into the hit detection a bit more accurately here: ua-cam.com/video/UyEQMmi7G5U/v-deo.html
Hey @LazyMabe
What Sludge Pump Build to use with Waver Cooker Gamma OC ? I have the Disperser OC for for it.
I love that this weapon works so well with Sludge blast, it really is like a support weapon. Temp shock is cool but I dislike using flamethrower and cryo cannon
How much of this is still accurate? Also that last recommended build is literally the same as the one I was just about to take in, except I took more ammo rather than wider range.
Thanks for explaining how the damage works for this gun, I kept thinking that shrinking the crosshair would make it easier to hit things, and save ammo, but it was pretty much a total waste this entire time! I would say that it's still worth it cause of weakpoint damage, but if it still doesn't do weakpoint damage to this day, then I have zero reason to not take wide lens over focused lens in nearly any case!
Flawless overview of it's strengths/weaknesses, usage cases, scenarios. The video sports excellent BGM too! Recognized everyone and made me smile while being educated on the weapon.
Regarding gamma contamination, I feel like different enemies have different proc chances for the DoT. Oppressors I've shot with it almost never receive the effect, while the odds for rival robots feels much higher than 25%. I've found this OC particularly useful when tagging those wily patrol bots and distant sniper turrets.
Wow that was very informative! At first look and trying the weapon out I really did not like it (Too addicted to the Subata I guess) and after watching this it looking a lot better!
Okay but how are you doing the weapon testing? Where did you get this empty room and the docile enemies and how do I also get it?
The wave cooker is a genuinely terrifying weapon irl. Like fuck, you're cooking them alive with it similar to a well, microwave! Like that's gotta be a war crime!
I'll usually play Subata when Sludgepumping, but recently the radiation along with the mod that is good for sludgepump (dunno if T5A or T5C) has been a godsend working with my friend who likes to waste ammo at all opportunities. Really efficient is what I'm trying to say. It feels correct to have.
The entire time I used this i assumed it just spawned an AOE where the target hit. Had no idea it could hit enemies at different ranges.
i second Lazy's fav sludge build. Its got decent single target, aoe, and CC and you can change how you play depending on the situation to kinda enhance one of those. The CC esp is way more consistent with slidge/cooker combo, bugs even on haz 5 come to almost a complete halt. and on top of that, you dont get in the way of heat/freeze effects. great team build like cryo, but still fun and effective.
i use slow fall OC on my pump tho. love that shit.
This was very well made. The footage fits the information displayed perfectly and makes understanding what difference everything makes much easier to understand.
I see tracks from Rabi-Ribi's OST in the credits and heard them in the video, have I come across a UA-camr that is a fan of said game? I love Rabi-Ribi and am currently playing through Cocoa Mode at Hell difficulty.
So let me get this straight, a cop flips on his lights to pull you over, you don’t , you split some lanes, he pulls ahead of you and then you start to drive like a maniac trying to get away? You say you’re not putting anyone in danger but driving +100 MPH on a 2 lane road weaving traffic certainly is.
That cop has every responsibility to get you off the road ASAP when you’re driving like that. His cars got lights and sirens so drivers know he’s coming and can get out of the way. I’d bet most of these poor folks that you were putting in danger with this stunt, never even noticed you until you were on top of them. I can’t believe how completely inconsiderate some people can be for the well being of others.
If you didn’t want to get a dumb ticket, well congrats you gave the police a dozen very legitimate reasons to put you away, which you for some reason decided to post all the evidence of on the internet. Real genius.
The "can't hit weak points" is a truth with some modifications. It can't deal weak point damage, but it will deal damage to weak points and thereby count towards popping them on enemies such as Mactera Goo Bombers and Bulk Detonators, and more importantly the new Rock Pox-Infected enemies which it will basically instantly kill due to their low weak point health and the fact that they instantly die once all weak points have been popped.
It feels way too powerful. I can snipe many web spitters with this thing better than scout with gk2 or m1000.
I hope they'll buff the scout primaries and give us Haz6
I like the Wave Cooker cuz I came to DRG from Warframe and stacking DoTs and Status effects is already ingrained in my DNA.
At first I wasn't that impressed with the weapon, the sound and effects were not that satisfying, and the different lenses didn't seem to change much. However now with the exothermic reactor it synergizes really well with a flamethrower, and the necrosis OC is pretty fun on bigger targets.
Plus it's REALLY useful on the any of the small aliens at any range, any deletes exploders with them actually exploding.
Plus with the wide angle lens, it destroys swarms of neocytes better than anything else.
The first overclock I ever got for Diller was gamma ray, I still use it lol. I can delete large targets pretty quick AND essentially fire and forget at long range targets like spitters and sniper turrets?!
Wave Cooker my beloved...
This gun continues the trend of most, if not all of driller's weapons violating the Geneva Convention, or being easily modifiable in a way that would do so. About the only safe ones are C4 (and barely so) and the HE grenade, unless it's made of plastic.
I hated the driller's first two wacky secondaries when i started playing as a driller. But... After unlocking my personal handheld microwave of destruction, I fell in love with driller finally