Extreme Vocal Mic Comparison | Best Dynamic Mics for Metal
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If you’re laying down some high-octane vocals, then you need the right tools for the job. The question remains: which mic is best for me? Sweetwater Sales Enginer Dave Dunsire is joined by David Benites of the Extreme Vocal Institute to crank up the heat on a slew of dynamic mics to determine which ones will have you sounding your best. Check it out!
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0:00 - Intro
0:36 - sE Electronics V7
2:56 - Telefunken M80
5:20 - Austrian Audio OD505
7:48 - Electro-Voice ND86
10:24 - DPA 2028
13:51 - AKG D5 C
16:34 - Neumann KMS 105
20:30 - Sennheiser e 945
23:31 - Behringer XM8500
26:29 - Shure SM58
29:36 - Outro
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I've got an Audio Technica bp40 for rock vocals in the studio and I love it. I use it the way lots of people the sm7b and I love the bp40 -- costs less than the Shure and doesn't need a cloud lifter!
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Neumann 105 for the poppy hoppy
Sennheiser e945
Full mix comparison
sE Electronics V7 2:25
Telefunken M80 4:55
Austrian Audio OD505 7:23
Electro-Voice ND86 9:31
DPA 2028 12:43
AKG D5 C 15:32
Neumann KMS 105 18:51
Sennheiser e 945 22:37
Behringer XM8500 25:31
Shure SM58 29:09
How quickly he can go from normal volume talking to straight on Growls and Screaming is insane and entertaining.
Just curious, but how else could he do it?
I definitely didn’t expect a heavy metal vocalist to speak so eloquently. I’m not into the genre, but now, I see heavy metal in a more positive way because of him.
He does a lot of vocal genres but the screams are more of an extreme metal genre as apposed to heavy metal.
Don’t let the stereotypical image of metalheads fool you. A lot of metal musicians are highly intelligent people, and many metal subgenres are extremely technical and require some serious musicianship. Metal vocals are an instrument as well- check out Will Ramos from Lorna Shore.
I think he meant Metal in general. @@MichaelDespairs
Do metal Singers voice dont give out b4 the concert over
Impressive demo! That's how you test a mic, go through different ranges, not one thing for 3 minutes straight. Professional asf.
Very cool test for this specific use case -- i think almost a 1 of a kind video.
I'd love this with some live drums onstage to get a sense of how the bleed comes through. That's a big ask, I know, but I think that'd be especially helpful when assessing condenser mics.
I *love* these mic shootouts! Thank you sweetwater, and thank you to the testers!
The DPA sounds absolutely amazing. If it's got good gain before feedback, I think it would be a game changer for live metal vocals.
the bleed is almost more important than the source sound in a live context IMO, would've been great also with just a 3 or 4 loudspeakers bashing some loud music in the near distance
@@DavideGuerri you're right
would be nice if to include Sennheiser e835 and Shure Beta58A
I think something that’s commonly overlooked with vocal mic shoots outs is not necessarily the sound of the mic but actually how much spill gets into the mic onstage. Especially in smaller venues in front of a drum kit , the spill can totally ruin a great vocal tone if you have to cut out top end cymbal frequencies from it .
David Benites is an amazing vocalist. And he makes it look so easy.
This video came at a perfect time for me. We’ll done Sweetwater! This was informative and was both very natural feeling and entertaining!
Thank you! Helped me a lot
David is a BEAST. One of the best vocalists around and a super nice guy, to boot. Had the pleasure of touring with him last year and he did amazing things for us. The M80 sounds good in a static environment but I've never had a mic want to feedback more than that one...
Wait until a singer brings his / her own no-name Chineseium wireless mic to your venue and asks to use it... I expected it to be sub par, but OMFG, it was quite literally unusable. The venue mics were Sennheiser 935 wired mics (we had no wireless mics). The Chinesium thing was thin & harsh, and the feedback was uncontrollable at concert volume, no matter what you did on the board. Sad part is, I'm pretty sure that to this day, the guy just thinks we were incompetent on the sound board and that his mic is fine.
Great video. Really helped. I know what mic I'm upgrading to for live.
Cool video- I think at the end all the backing track comparisons should be side by side.
Gotta say, I really love what I was hearing from that Austrian Audio OD505. The SM58 sounded dull compared to pretty much all the other mics. Still a great mic to have but it was put up against a bunch of other great sounding mics. The XM8500 - the $25 mic in the bunch - surprised me the most at how great it sounded here. I actually preferred it to the SM58.
Great video! Just a bummer that Shure Beta 58 and Audix OM5 or 7 are missing.
It’s all about the DPA 2028! My all time favourite stage mic!
Could you include in the next video, the akg perception P5live S and or the P3live especially against the senh - e945 and the Neum - kms 104/ 105
Many thanks for your very informative mic video 👍😎💭
I’m torn between the sE and the AKG 😅
Both sound great to me and fit in my budget!
That's some nice equipment you are parading in front of I would be happy owning any of them.
Killer shoot out🤘🏻
I think I am going for the Neumann KMS105. I already have two EV DS35, an SM57, a Beta 58 and an AKG and I love them all but I think my Warm Audio mic preamp and Warm Audio valve compressor are gonna love the Neumann.
This is great. Being a metal vocalist for about 10 years now, it was a pain to get information on what to get, when there were no tutorials or anything. Most of the time it was hunting for interviews with my favorite vocalists and hope they say what model they use. (much love to phil bozeman/Whitechapel and his audix om recommendations!)
Thank you Sweetwater and David!
Informative and entertaining. Great stuff!
That's cool, quite vibrant, quite dynamic mic.
DPA 2028 definitely the best one to me! I thought about the feedback issue too. For a second.
You can eliminate any feedback by stage position, equalizer, and control.
A professional vocalist and artist. You can hear him adapt to what he is hearing without the music. He could make any microphone work. That is the difference between someone with and without experience. Knowing what you can do, adapting on the fly, and not withering in the moment. So many so-called artists in my studio could not do that. Impressive, even though the music is not my cup of tea. I stopped on the video because I now have a metal band in the studio looking for insight. Thank you very much for doing this. Cheers!
To my ears, the Telefunken M80 stands out in a good way.
I thought the same thing so I looked it up and was surprised it didn't have great reviews. I mean, people complain about anything so I shouldn't really care.
Creation is amazing, when I see all these different expressions of it, as demonic as they sound, good stuff :D
This is both informative and totally hilarious and ridiculous.
listening to the first few, one of them sounds like the 90s in a good way, one sounds hifi, another one sounds like pop punk, I’ll keep listening
i had my slider door open, boy did i close it quick! Sounds great !
👍👌⚡thanks, very interesting. Different technologies, under extreme voice conditions, as if I don't use mics either than in a smooth way for my voice, I can hear very different results depending the mic choice, that can't be found if this kind of test is not listen attentively with studio headphones. I've a dynamic old Shure for sure🤗, and low price studio condensers, also a hand condenser Sennheiser , all that material is low price, I can't buy a more expensive one only if this add a very higher sound quality. So the first condenser capsule one is my choice here, I will go have a more detailed look, price, that's the first problem for me, as I have lot of parts to buy before, as going to modular and semi modular movable studio. Thanks for this particular screaming voices. I'm fan of OTYKEN traditional and siberian screaming band, so experiencing how the mic can interfere with hard demand is very instructive to study the way natural voices and instruments can make profit from different technologies.👌💚🧡🙏😎
As reading the comments, I wonder is most people either hear the big differences between the mics here. I'm not familiar with screaming voices, but I can appreciate ho this guy is testing his musical voice with the different mics here. Very good stuff, I appreciate. Some people are saying this is not metal voice, but, and this not extreme use, meaning for me they are not musicians but mic's cells destroyers💥. Screaming in a mic is the art to not destroy your instrument as musician!💫🤗 As I were tenn lol of years ago, Metal was Shure in the mouth, but the best ones were real musicians taking lot of care to the sound quality. But depend of the quality you can add as a singer, and also, taking care to frequencies interferences, in wich, having different mics for different situations on stage or with harmonics from other instruments, is necessary. But most peoples comments go as always, technical, band pass response, and so, but what the hear is not listened at all in the comment's results. I think this is a real problem actually for Music, as the technology is going over Music Art, and low price giving access to noise makers. In that I'm finding I've no limitation to my exigence, that's my problem, but dissociates from the small internet crowd , seems😵🙀😺👌🤗🙋🙏🧡💚
Well after seeing this video I think there is no need for a better mic but a better vocalist 😂. Really great vocalist and great comparison.
I could watch these comparison videos for days on end but I always feel like I can only properly test a mic and how it actually would sound with me if it has been around the block for a couple of times. Especially with something more pricy like the Neumann KMS 105, loved it straight out of the box no problemo, but I would've loved to inspect the sound of a used one. find this always very hard to decide plus it's kinda creepy to straight up ask "you can I use your mic please for a sec, I see you have properly abused it for years" 🤣 very thankful for this video though, I feel like with more and more extreme vocals being portrayed in our modern times and people realizing there's something else besides the SM58 we truly need more content like this to make a well informed financial decision. mics become your companions. I've had my trusty studio TLM 103 for 19 years now and I have high hopes that it may outlive me and become the companion of either my loud niece or my own kids one day :D
fun anecdotes aside - people with experience using the Neumann KMS 105 for Stoner Metal, Death Metal or such - if you are having anecdotal evidence for or against this mic in particular, I'd be very curious to know about your stories! feel free to respond
Gotta add the Beta 87a; EARTHWORKS SR40V; KSM8; KSM9; E965; BETA 58; SM86;
Can you compare the microphone Heil pr 37 with all this mics please
Overall, I think most of them could do quite well, I didn’t like the sE, Neumann, DPA or the Behringer. I would probably use something like a 47 for this actually. (prone to being wrong if I were to hear all the different possibilities) but overall, I don’t think within a certain range the microphone is the factor that makes the difference.
One of the best video ever Sweetwater
What happen to heil pr35?
For his voice AKG D5 C sounds the best. It does it all: the EQ, the texture and the details. Sepultura also uses AKG D5s, so it make sense that it would sound good. It is one of the cheaper mics from this list. 🎤🔥 Great mic is a great mic - no matter the genre of music.
Should of done a monitor feed back test
I love how natural the Neumann is
He went from Darth Vader into Donald Duck rather pretty quickly. Its awesome! 😂❤
Muy bonito el griterío, pero cuando hay que cantar cacarea lindo la gallina 😂
17:46 funny when he started to scream epic.
Good test. My only criticism is that from 10kHz up is the last octave and basically useless for vocals. On the bottom end, a rolloff cuts handling noise, plosive whumps and low freq bleed through. 20Hz flat response is asking for trouble in the real world. The host's focus on freq range importance, imo, is a bit misguided. The midrange rise is more important to the sound. I think I would go for the Sennheiser.
What happened to standard frequency response charts? Like the ones we all get to make sense of.
That's not useful at all for testing someone's voice and screams. To me this is pretty helpful.
@@Jazzguitar00 Learn to read and understand scientific graphs.
What is the Frequency range on the DPA 2028 ?
Hello, zAvAvAz! The 2028’s effective frequency range ±2 dB, at 12 cm (4.7 in) is 100 Hz - 16 kHz.
Thanks for the interest!
Cody Kraus, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1766, cody_kraus@sweetwater.com
He'd be great making sounds for the Lord of the Rings trilogy 😊
V7, AA OD505 and DPA2028 take the crown
whats the song?
I can't find it, but it sounds a lot like an Erra song, so if you like it then you'd probably really like Erra
Well, he is trying out various types of vocal sound to check out frequencies, to check out dynamics.
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Next time, have a live drummer behind the vocalist so we can compare mic bleed as well
The XM8500 is cheap af as well
Q: They all sounded good.... isn't his voice is 99% of 'the sound', and we're really just nitpicking here?
I almost dropped my phone when he first sing…
😂
Dude has a interesting voice, it's kind of funny to listen to him speak then sing, is this supposed to be funny? Because I can't stop laughing 😂
Me either !
Hilarious
I am laffing all the way thru this !
@@epiphonium I think it's funny when videos do exactly what they say they are going to hahahahaha
Like comparing Garbage Cans
And a badass heavy metal monster needs a really lightweight microphone for his huge muscular
hands and massive arms ... just on the first demo so far.
Don't worry, there are people that think your music genre sucks too.
Show the Heil Sound PR 30B Dynamic Supercardioid..
Sweetwater doesn't sell Heil unfortunately
Who actually uses this mike in a handheld metal band anyway.
@@gregpikl850 right. I meant HEIL PR 35 not PR 30B.
Screaming and fry in metal is a very low volume sound. So needing an "extreme" mic is a misnomer. Supercardiod makes sense. These vocal effects in this video should not be called metal, they should be called grunto. I wont listen to music with that grunto style and I know a lot of other metal fans wont either.
grunto
Literally what are you talking about, are you high?