I like the 'Dead School' moniker. When you watch the Props box set, you can see something shift in the mid-90s. The bikes changes, street riding take on a skateboarding influence and the grunge fashion is replaced by khakis and Fox t-shirts.
The pedals didn’t destroy your shins when you slipped a pedal like the hutch or some of those sharp pedals did. I always liked the haro bikes paint and grafics. I worked at my uncle’s bike shop back then. We sold lots of GT.
Fully on board with the "dead school" terminology. I have the chrome '21 Ground Master and it rules. I wish that one came with those Fusion flatland pegs, though!
I like the dead school Era term. My 91 DB Reactor and my 94 Robi Pro fall into that category. I'll keep the term going here on the east coast. It fits the era and it just sounds bad ass.
Yeah I would say when the threadless system became standard is when "mid-school" started. I count anything from 75-95 to be old school and anything older is vintage/antique
What type of adapter is on the brake lever to be able to run the dual cables on the upper gyro cable? I keep trying to find something like that to run on my 2021 lineage I’m building, but don’t necessarily know what it’s called to search for it? I’ve seen dual break levers that look bulky and are expensive! Any info would be helpful!
The chrome on the Lineage rims is poor quality. They look good when new but 12 months after purchase my rims started bubbling. The bike has never been wet and it’s always been stored inside☹️
I am on-board with throwback bikes having better materials and geometry than their predecessors. But I am not sure about pivotal seats and half-link chains. What is wrong with a KMC 510 and a basic railed seat?
Im sure it has a half link chain because this is a flat specific bike and a lot of riders are very specific about back end lengths. I have ran half links since they came out and there is nothing wrong with them if they are installed properly. I love a railed seat but that just really doesn't help a manufacturer who all ready has molds for pivotal seats waiting to be filled. Also a railed seat costs more and is heavier. On paper you want a bike as light as you can get for sales purposes. Easy switches though if you grab one of these. :)
"dead school" bro that's absolutely absurd. You are saying that the era when some of the most important innovative bike tricks were invented was when things should be called the "dead school era" based on parts changes. So you're saying dead school was during the heyday of Chase Gouin, Kevin Jones, Paul Osicka, Matt Hoffman, Dave Mirra, Jay Miron, Jesse Puente, Chad Degroot, Edgar Placencia, Trevor Meyer, Pete Brandt, Joe Rich, Scott Powell, Dave Freimuth, Krt Schmidt, Rooftop, Chad Johnton, Rick Molitierno, Nate Hanson, MIke Forney and Dennis McCoy Mongoose era? What are you even talking about? The only reason we call anything "new school" now is because we point to that era as insane progression. Bikes during the time of your alleged "dead school" era are Standard Shorty, Hoffman Big Daddy, Hoffman EP, Haro Megatube, Homeless, Holmes, Morales etc.
These actually don't have chrome rims due to restrictions on chroming worldwide. Every chrome rim I have seen in the last 3 years will end up flaking in about 3 to 6 months. Haro actually had chrome ones on a previous year and had to deal with nightmare of them all flaking. The chroming process now just isn't achievable on aluminum like it was 20 or more years ago without all the restrictions. Chrome on steel will still hold up but its still not as nice as 80's chrome. As for the price tag that is about spot on for a high end bike if you build it from scratch nowadays. If you add the parts up on this bike or something similar it will be in that ballpark.
@@SnakebiteBMX thats good to know, have you heard how the chrome is holding up on the 2021 chrome lineage ground masters? I live in Canada and thats the only one my bike shop can get and for about $500 less than the new black one.
@@duanevh3790 Id honestly be scared of most chrome on aluminum after the pandemic. No where will always be random parts that prove me wrong but the odds are stacked against ya.
@@SnakebiteBMX not sure if I was clear, i meant the 2021 chrome groundmaster frame not rims, I thought since the frame & forks were 4130 chromoly not aluminum they might hold up better? unless you're saying the quality lately would be the same. thanks
I thought the GT I purchased was expensive until I saw what the modern Haro's are going for. With the BG Master I wanted, I'd easily be talking 2 grand for the exact setup I want.
I like the 'Dead School' moniker. When you watch the Props box set, you can see something shift in the mid-90s. The bikes changes, street riding take on a skateboarding influence and the grunge fashion is replaced by khakis and Fox t-shirts.
I agree completely. It went from no money and no sponsors to the Midschool era being more lucrative than the mid 80's!
The pedals didn’t destroy your shins when you slipped a pedal like the hutch or some of those sharp pedals did. I always liked the haro bikes paint and grafics. I worked at my uncle’s bike shop back then. We sold lots of GT.
I had a '94 Haro Group 1 Si and those pedals would bite your leg off.
Fully on board with the "dead school" terminology. I have the chrome '21 Ground Master and it rules. I wish that one came with those Fusion flatland pegs, though!
I have the Zolatone Master as my daily rider! I love it! Yeah I think Deadschool fits the 89' to 94' era perfectly!
Dan Cortese😂😂 MTV sports. Thanks for the memories
Ha! Thats right! I could see his damn face but couldn't remember his name!
Sweet haro! My dream ride as a kid..and still
Dan cortez was his name..i think
Wow what a good looking haro! Love it!
I like the dead school Era term. My 91 DB Reactor and my 94 Robi Pro fall into that category. I'll keep the term going here on the east coast. It fits the era and it just sounds bad ass.
Yeah I would say when the threadless system became standard is when "mid-school" started. I count anything from 75-95 to be old school and anything older is vintage/antique
Love this setup 😍
I'd prefer the graphics on the rear of the seat post. That way, you can add a nice decal on the front of the fork to add to the colorway of the bike.
What type of adapter is on the brake lever to be able to run the dual cables on the upper gyro cable? I keep trying to find something like that to run on my 2021 lineage I’m building, but don’t necessarily know what it’s called to search for it? I’ve seen dual break levers that look bulky and are expensive! Any info would be helpful!
87-88 is when old school was at it's peak and at it's best, in my honest opinion.
What a nice machine.
first video of the black 2023 I have seen, did they just start arriving in stores? would be nice to see someone do tricks on it
we need the shad bike check love that master bashguard frame
Ill try and do one soon.
Good to see the checker pig is alive and well
Its running actually pretty darn good!
You said coming down from Seattle. Where you from? I'm in chehalis wa
The chrome on the Lineage rims is poor quality. They look good when new but 12 months after purchase my rims started bubbling. The bike has never been wet and it’s always been stored inside☹️
Wait. Hold on. Did the camera operator just grind the brake cable at 2:02?
It may have happened lol
The lineage haros are so sick! Odyssey trail mix are the best metal pedals made imo. I always enjoy the vids guys 🤙
Agree the trail mixes are a great pedal! But the feel of these to me is just spot on!
What year did Hoffman get on the wheaties box?
UA-cam won’t let me remove my stupid comment after remembering who it was incorrectly.
I am on-board with throwback bikes having better materials and geometry than their predecessors. But I am not sure about pivotal seats and half-link chains. What is wrong with a KMC 510 and a basic railed seat?
Im sure it has a half link chain because this is a flat specific bike and a lot of riders are very specific about back end lengths. I have ran half links since they came out and there is nothing wrong with them if they are installed properly. I love a railed seat but that just really doesn't help a manufacturer who all ready has molds for pivotal seats waiting to be filled. Also a railed seat costs more and is heavier. On paper you want a bike as light as you can get for sales purposes. Easy switches though if you grab one of these. :)
I liked the old school railed seat as well. With the pivotal, the seating angles aren't exactly how I like my seat.
Is this considered a flatland bike?
yes
I want one but with 24" wheels
I have that same seat on my 2000 Haro 540 Air and it's not comfortable to sit on at all. Does Haro make any stealth seats that are softer?
Lets be honest there really has never been a BMX seat designed with comfort in mind.
Thanks for the reply.
The seat feels better now. I had it installed wrong before.
Nice bike i got 1991 and 1992 sweet bikers
Beauty!
Which website would be safe for me to order this beautiful bike
I think Haro's website may still have some. If not you could check Albes.com
@@SnakebiteBMX ok thank you
@@Joseramos1 I just bought one from Gabe Weed -Cheap Goods BMX for a lower price than anywhere else, he should still have one in stock
By the way did you know Rosa parks was a fed ops?
Woooo😮
"dead school" bro that's absolutely absurd. You are saying that the era when some of the most important innovative bike tricks were invented was when things should be called the "dead school era" based on parts changes. So you're saying dead school was during the heyday of Chase Gouin, Kevin Jones, Paul Osicka, Matt Hoffman, Dave Mirra, Jay Miron, Jesse Puente, Chad Degroot, Edgar Placencia, Trevor Meyer, Pete Brandt, Joe Rich, Scott Powell, Dave Freimuth, Krt Schmidt, Rooftop, Chad Johnton, Rick Molitierno, Nate Hanson, MIke Forney and Dennis McCoy Mongoose era? What are you even talking about? The only reason we call anything "new school" now is because we point to that era as insane progression. Bikes during the time of your alleged "dead school" era are Standard Shorty, Hoffman Big Daddy, Hoffman EP, Haro Megatube, Homeless, Holmes, Morales etc.
How much it weigth?
I love running into people that call it “Hairo” 🤣 k bye
2 grand and they couldnt even put out chrome 48 rims? wow is right
These actually don't have chrome rims due to restrictions on chroming worldwide. Every chrome rim I have seen in the last 3 years will end up flaking in about 3 to 6 months. Haro actually had chrome ones on a previous year and had to deal with nightmare of them all flaking. The chroming process now just isn't achievable on aluminum like it was 20 or more years ago without all the restrictions. Chrome on steel will still hold up but its still not as nice as 80's chrome.
As for the price tag that is about spot on for a high end bike if you build it from scratch nowadays. If you add the parts up on this bike or something similar it will be in that ballpark.
@@SnakebiteBMX thats good to know, have you heard how the chrome is holding up on the 2021 chrome lineage ground masters? I live in Canada and thats the only one my bike shop can get and for about $500 less than the new black one.
@@duanevh3790 Id honestly be scared of most chrome on aluminum after the pandemic. No where will always be random parts that prove me wrong but the odds are stacked against ya.
@@SnakebiteBMX not sure if I was clear, i meant the 2021 chrome groundmaster frame not rims, I thought since the frame & forks were 4130 chromoly not aluminum they might hold up better? unless you're saying the quality lately would be the same. thanks
Didn't know about the EarthThumpers messing with chrome. Seems like a valid explanation. Bastards. @@SnakebiteBMX
I'd just get rid of the awful stem and handlebars.
Dan Cortese vibes. lol
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Are they having a joke with that price! 😮
Guess you haven't looked at bike prices since a Dyno Slammer was available! :)
I thought the GT I purchased was expensive until I saw what the modern Haro's are going for. With the BG Master I wanted, I'd easily be talking 2 grand for the exact setup I want.
Made in china or Taiwan ?
at about 0:14 they close up on the box and the bottom of label it says made in Taiwan
bussin lmao
Yeahbill buu it but tgey r park people not trail people