Last year I was forced to update my perfectly fine 84 channel MOTU setup because of OS / HW incompatibility (thanks Apple!).. I am now running an Antelope Orion 32 + Gen 4 and two SSL XLogic Alpha Link Live-R for a total of 90 channels of I/O. The routing capabilities of the Antelope Control Panel software is just incredible, especially the matrix window (not explored in this video), and I am able to recall mixes from the old setup seamlessly..!
I've been looking at the Metric Halo LIO-8mkIV. The converters have been getting excellent reviews for their sound quality. It also includes and extensive Metric Halo plug-in package. Seems like a good value if you don't need preamps. They also have the ULN-8mkIV which does include preamps.
@@hoborecyou covered a bunch, and showed some new things i didn’t know about! tips in general for anybody with this interface, be careful not to accidentally click those preset buttons on the front if you don’t have them properly set up, may have done that one or twice :)
5 years with Orion 32 gen2 - no issues! 1 year with Gen4 - no issues! 1 year Amari - no issues! 1 year Antelope Atlas i8 - no issues..... baaaaad devices!))
I actually sold my Flock 64 patchbay and bought two Orions G4. Now I can send all my gear (comp/eq) anyway I want in Ableton easily just like using a plugin with a click of a button. 🤙🏼
I have a doubt, using the antelope patch. For example, If send the sound from the output of a preamp to the input of a compressor, do an A/D and a D/A conversion , isn't it? I understand that it's important remember not to digitally clip. 🤔
@@hoborec funnily enough never on the 2bus but i do it with single tracks when recording and buses while mixing. most of the time it's accidental 😂but as i said it sound good most of the time and so i leave it at that. also tried gaining it down on multiple occasions and liked the clipped version better
There are other converters with dsp mixers, for example the lynx aurora. For me the biggest most important question is the dsp mixer and how it operates. With lynx you can make a seperate mix for all outputs, I think. Is that possible with the orion?
Can this be used with a 24 Track Tape Machine and a 24 track console? I mean, wouldn't I need 24 in/out for that? what happens to the other 8 channels if I only have 24 channels on console & tape machine? Will that mess everything up?
That is what I used my earlier Orion 32 for. At the moment I don't have my 24 track but that's the plan for the near future. I mean it never hurts with extra ins/outs. You can route monitoring to the musicians through them if you don't want to waste auxes on the console for example.
I have the new RME UFXIII and Im kind of wishing I had the antelope. I prefer USB connections, which I like about RME but the damn thing has like NO freakin analog inputs/outputs. Whats the freaking point of that? I should have researched better, but RME is a solid company. The Antelope reports of issues and bad service scared me off
Don't worry, you have an interface for the next 10 years and the UFX are expandable if you need more analog inputs and outputs. RME are the masters of PC drivers.
@@Rhuggins Look at the Ferrofish options in the future if you want to expand I/O. They have for example the Pulse 16 converter, a 16in/16out analog/adat (SMUX up to 96khz) converter for $1099 and with MADI option (192khz) for $1350.
I have the UFX 3 too in combination with ferrofish Pulse 16 hooked up over madi, i have enough inputs and outputs and all is contolled over Totalmix, and i give some phone calls to RME in Germany for a couple of questions, and they helped me a lot there....and i love this Setup. so dont worry you did the ricght choice just upgrade your UFX with a cheap behringer IN OUT or go for Ferrofish and you will be fine. Totalmix is awesome with the Remotecontrol ARC USB
@ im just really concerned about conversion quality, if I expand with the ferrofish I dont want it to be any less good than RME conversion if that makes sense
Iam trying to record four instruments using obs, antelope facebook group suggest sending all instruments to one of the mixers, then send the main left and right from mixer to obs, iam only familiar with routing, iam using galaxy 32, brand new out the box sitting for 3 months, care to share?
Antelope has a bad service, my mic stopped working after 2 years and 3 month, estimated cost for repair for the little SMD-board inside: 400-600 euros! for the price, i get a full SSL violet EQ
I will never buy antelope again after my nightmare with Discrete 4 Synergy core. Had 4 times my computer remotely operated, thunderbolt never worked, antelope launcher crashes so i couldnt turn on phatnom power, afx2daw never worked, effects somedays worked and some other not, every update destroy the previous stability, they didnt have 32bit processing and the implementation was awful, some of the adaptes consisted in having publicity on the antelope launcher. Auraverb was a chorusy reverb totally crap. Once you buy you cant get out, i had a 2 channels recording and have clicks on it. Lame. My experience.
@ I’ve read all that stuff too. That’s why I think it’s important to share my experience too. It wouldn’t be realistic if everyone who bought Antelope gear had bad experiences. Antelope would have gone out of business a long time ago if that was the case. What’s your experience?
What Interface are you using right now?
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Last year I was forced to update my perfectly fine 84 channel MOTU setup because of OS / HW incompatibility (thanks Apple!).. I am now running an Antelope Orion 32 + Gen 4 and two SSL XLogic Alpha Link Live-R for a total of 90 channels of I/O. The routing capabilities of the Antelope Control Panel software is just incredible, especially the matrix window (not explored in this video), and I am able to recall mixes from the old setup seamlessly..!
I've been looking at the Metric Halo LIO-8mkIV. The converters have been getting excellent reviews for their sound quality. It also includes and extensive Metric Halo plug-in package. Seems like a good value if you don't need preamps. They also have the ULN-8mkIV which does include preamps.
Audient evo 16
@@darvinreed2314 That's a solid interface. I use it for mobile recordings.
@@darvinreed2314 marvellous!
Thanks for having me! 🙌
You Rock my friend!
Thanks for the great video!!
Got this interface just a few months ago. Love it. Crazy how many channels I can run.
@@aidanswiftofficial cool! Any tips on stuff I missed in the video?
Thanks ever so much Aidan for sharing
@@hoborec exactly! Any tips Aidan?
@@hoborecyou covered a bunch, and showed some new things i didn’t know about! tips in general for anybody with this interface, be careful not to accidentally click those preset buttons on the front if you don’t have them properly set up, may have done that one or twice :)
LOVE Ulf's channel! Thanks for the great video guys
Me too
Thanks Tim!
@@spitfiremusic3997 marvellous!
Thanks so much Tim 🙏
Means a lot
@@spitfiremusic3997🙌🙏
nobody is hoping i'm doing marvellously well in that video. 😓
Damn.... forgot. Hope you're doing marvellously well
I am!!! I hope you're doing marvellously well!!
@@hoborec next time my friend! Haha
🔥 I love Antelope gear
Marvellous! Thanks for sharing!
5 years with Orion 32 gen2 - no issues! 1 year with Gen4 - no issues! 1 year Amari - no issues! 1 year Antelope Atlas i8 - no issues..... baaaaad devices!))
Is it silent? I have a Lynx Aurora that buzzes a little
My Orion 32 gen 1 never gave me any issues either. 10 years.
Thanks ever so much for sharing!
@@hoborec marvellous!
@@AmiliaCaraMia I had two Lynx's for years and they didn't have any issues, is it a grounding problem?
No comments on how frickin' sick that little practice amp at 14:10 sounds??? 🤣
Haha apparently not....wait! Yes, THIS One!
Don't forget Glenn Fricker, play youre weekly playlist please! Sorry for this. Now I'm going to watch the video.
Every day!
Every day here!
@@hoborec each and every day!
I also run my 2a before the 76
I think we should start a huge internet debate on which way is the right way ;)
@hoborec 🤣 that was a dope comment
@@hoborec compression before limiting every time! LA2A (or DBX 160) into an 1176
@@Furybeatsgme haha indeed!
Exactly!
I actually sold my Flock 64 patchbay and bought two Orions G4. Now I can send all my gear (comp/eq) anyway I want in Ableton easily just like using a plugin with a click of a button. 🤙🏼
Not worried about the multiple paths of conversion then?
I have a doubt, using the antelope patch. For example, If send the sound from the output of a preamp to the input of a compressor, do an A/D and a D/A conversion , isn't it? I understand that it's important remember not to digitally clip. 🤔
I sometimes send mixes through the conversion loop because it sounds good
@@mirkomarkovic3438 have you tried clipping it as limiting?
@@hoborec funnily enough never on the 2bus but i do it with single tracks when recording and buses while mixing. most of the time it's accidental 😂but as i said it sound good most of the time and so i leave it at that. also tried gaining it down on multiple occasions and liked the clipped version better
Thank you. 😊
Thank YOU!
Thank you Ulf
Ulf Rules!
Thank you for making me feel welcome =)
This guy looks like he would tear you up in a street fight. haha good vid. thanks
Probably the last thing I would do 😅
@hoborec that's why Europe has all the migrants attacking women without repercussion lol 😆
@@woodendoors9532 ‘scuse me? Where do you get your news? 🤨
He is very a gentle, kind man! Big fan of Ulf's!
There are other converters with dsp mixers, for example the lynx aurora.
For me the biggest most important question is the dsp mixer and how it operates.
With lynx you can make a seperate mix for all outputs, I think. Is that possible with the orion?
@@ProfDrDrN0 I don’t use that feature much but if I got it correctly there are four separate mixes in the dsp
Can this be used with a 24 Track Tape Machine and a 24 track console? I mean, wouldn't I need 24 in/out for that? what happens to the other 8 channels if I only have 24 channels on console & tape machine? Will that mess everything up?
That is what I used my earlier Orion 32 for. At the moment I don't have my 24 track but that's the plan for the near future. I mean it never hurts with extra ins/outs. You can route monitoring to the musicians through them if you don't want to waste auxes on the console for example.
@@hoborec Thanks for the info! This seems like a very good price.
I have the new RME UFXIII and Im kind of wishing I had the antelope. I prefer USB connections, which I like about RME but the damn thing has like NO freakin analog inputs/outputs. Whats the freaking point of that? I should have researched better, but RME is a solid company. The Antelope reports of issues and bad service scared me off
Don't worry, you have an interface for the next 10 years and the UFX are expandable if you need more analog inputs and outputs. RME are the masters of PC drivers.
@ yeah but another RME converter is like 3 more thoudand for another 16ins and outs. So its more about the total value proposition
@@Rhuggins Look at the Ferrofish options in the future if you want to expand I/O. They have for example the Pulse 16 converter, a 16in/16out analog/adat (SMUX up to 96khz) converter for $1099 and with MADI option (192khz) for $1350.
I have the UFX 3 too in combination with ferrofish Pulse 16 hooked up over madi, i have enough inputs and outputs and all is contolled over Totalmix, and i give some phone calls to RME in Germany for a couple of questions, and they helped me a lot there....and i love this Setup. so dont worry you did the ricght choice just upgrade your UFX with a cheap behringer IN OUT or go for Ferrofish and you will be fine. Totalmix is awesome with the Remotecontrol ARC USB
@ im just really concerned about conversion quality, if I expand with the ferrofish I dont want it to be any less good than RME conversion if that makes sense
whats the lowest buffer to record> can it go down to 128buffer?
I'm running it at 128. It goes down to 32.
Marvellous question!
@@hoborec thanks for sharing
Orion Studio Rev 2017,Still loving, but sometimes i had some software issues
Iam trying to record four instruments using obs, antelope facebook group suggest sending all instruments to one of the mixers, then send the main left and right from mixer to obs, iam only familiar with routing, iam using galaxy 32, brand new out the box sitting for 3 months, care to share?
I'm just getting to know OBS myself so I can't really add anything to that.
@@hoborec please let us know when you know!
Antelope has a bad service, my mic stopped working after 2 years and 3 month, estimated cost for repair for the little SMD-board inside: 400-600 euros! for the price, i get a full SSL violet EQ
Oh it sucks when things break right after warranty expires =/
Seems like it would have been cheaper to just replace the mic?
I will never buy antelope again after my nightmare with Discrete 4 Synergy core. Had 4 times my computer remotely operated, thunderbolt never worked, antelope launcher crashes so i couldnt turn on phatnom power, afx2daw never worked, effects somedays worked and some other not, every update destroy the previous stability, they didnt have 32bit processing and the implementation was awful, some of the adaptes consisted in having publicity on the antelope launcher. Auraverb was a chorusy reverb totally crap. Once you buy you cant get out, i had a 2 channels recording and have clicks on it. Lame. My experience.
NO THANK YOU.
If you buy from Antelope you have only yourself to blame. Literally, lol.
Guess I've been lucky the last 10 years then 😎
@@hoborec If it works for you that's great. Unfortunately the internet is full of people that aren't so lucky.
@ I’ve read all that stuff too. That’s why I think it’s important to share my experience too. It wouldn’t be realistic if everyone who bought Antelope gear had bad experiences. Antelope would have gone out of business a long time ago if that was the case.
What’s your experience?
Antelope. Very good sounding convertors. Maybe the shittiest drivers on the market...
So I've heard, but never had any issues.
@@hoborec indeed, same here! I heard that many years ago before I started using them
Who’s that bull?
Don't be a prick son.
@@chelseapensionerfor real
Just me
@@AmiliaCaraMia Fancy you oh ginger sweetness! 🥰
@@hoborec Perfectly appropriate and well presented video my friend. Don't need some random mug making stupid remarks about your appearance!🤜🤛