I don't even have an aluminum boat, why am I even here... well at least I now know how to add floats, how to apply gator glide, and how to paint a jon boat. Great videos lol, got me wanting a boat now just to use this newfound knowledge.
Excellent video! I'm thinking about some float pods for my 16' X 50" river bass boat. Further, as a retired law enforcement official, I appreciate the thin blue line, thank you.
I would highly recomend getting an air powered rivet puller. Will solve your tight corner pull problems and sooooo much time/fatigue in the long run if you do a lot of boat work.
New to the channel just got a grizzly 1648 SC. My first “tiny” boat. Get rid of the flapper wheel and try this. I work on aluminum trains this was a game changer for us. Scotch-Brite Clean and Strip XT Pro Disc - Rust and Paint Stripping Disc also Scotch-Brite Clean and Strip XT Pro Extra Cut Disc
I am new to your channel and I want to tell you that I had a great time watching your crazy video and hopefully you make more of these videos and also hopefully that your channel blows up because I think you definitely got great potential. UA-cam is supposed to be putting entertainment and educational and I think it fits right in. Good luck with the channel man.
Thank you Alex, I really appreciate that. I love making videos and showing my crazy ideas. I got many more insane ideas coming up soon, I think everyone will be excited about some of the upcoming projects. I really do hope the channel blows up as well so I can afford to do bigger and better boat builds for you guys.
Thanks bud! Glad you are enjoying it. I will have to check out your channel as well, I love watching other youtubers with great minds that think alike! YEE YEE!
@@EPGunman You should see the videos before editing.... 10 minutes of video makes for about 2 hours of me cussing, stumbling over my words, saying off the wall stuff... yeah it's entertaining to say the least.
@@SendItJonBoats lmao I can relate!!! One reason I don’t make any type of videos!!!! I would banned quickly because I am quite colorful when I speak lol.
I have a 14’X60” welded aluminum boat with a tunnel hull and a 70hp Johnson. The outboard weighted the back end of the boat down with the 12 gallon gas tank and batteries in the back of the boat so I did the exact same thing you did to mount them I just did not use sealed rivets and I used 25 rivets per float pod and they are solid! Used a bunch of 5200 fast cure and I can stand on them no problem, great to sit on when in the water and to climb in and out of the boat. Float pods did exactly what I wanted them to ( raised the back end 6” and kept water from coming over transom when coming off plane) after seeing you method I had to try it and do it for myself!
Thank you for this bro this is how I'm doing it. Hoping the angle works out though because if not this method wouldn't work out would it? Worried about burning through while welding them
Just found your channel while searching for a solution to my same problem. I am also putting an outboard that is too heavy for my jon boat. Figured somebody had a solution, you gained a new follower at the unicorn intro😂😂😂 good stuff man. Looking forward to watching your other videos
My floats were tig welded on but I changed the drain plugs to wrench tighten and cut off the 2 handles so nothing for branches to snag ! I like this install and save the $650.00 I paid for tig welding also put traction pads on top if I ever did need to climb in that way on a Lowe 18ft Big Jon !
I have heard the same thing James, as long as the install is clean the 5200 seems to last a really long time. These pods are holding up really well so far.
@@SendItJonBoats I was looking for if the pods were lasting. I like the idea of this. I’ve been thinking about pods but welders here are expensive. Just found the channel and love it.
@@SendItJonBoats do you post the material list for the rivet washer bit size. Awesome video sir, I'm going to order these so my son and I can try putting them on our flat bottom boat
@@SendItJonBoats i like your channel bud. I've just fixed some "bolt on" versions as well as cut the bottoms open to get the pitch right. The angled bottom you got going on will cause the boat to porpoise uncontrollable. Unfortunatly one pod profile doesn't fit every hull but Beavertail does not care about that. Best thing to do is to go have a quality fabricator build a set of pods specifically designed for your hull.
@@DustinApple Any advice going forward ??? because I have not been able to find any reliable source of information about what angle and height the pods are supposed to be, so I just went with what Beavertail said in the instructions. But that makes sense they are just out to sell pods, they could care less if they actually work or not.
@@SendItJonBoats there's some personal preference involved. Flat and flush is my favorite witch gives the most floatation but hinders turning a lot. For most cases the front of the pod being flush and the back of the pod 1/2" above will allow it to retain moderate turning. It's also popular to mount the pods 3/4" from the bottom. That step will allow the water to break suction from the bottom of the pod and will be sportier to turn. It almost retains the same manners on pad that way. The problem with your current setup is the bottom angle is to great. Water suction will want to pull the pod down. It will want to lift the nose uncontrollable to the point to where when you get on pad the front will crash hard into the water and begin a violent porpoise. Ive learned this lesson the hard way. No amount of trim angle will help.
@@DustinApple Thanks for finally steering me in the right direction.... no one ever has good info on how the pods affect performance. Does running a longtail mud motor make any difference or does this just apply to outboards and short tails?
Awesome build!!! Oh my...."Did he just use stainless steel washers?" hahahaha. I did the same on mine, and also used 3M 5200 on the bare aluminum surface. So, no worries in sight👍
Ha Ha... I caught hell on my other channel in the comments everytime I used stainless, so I made sure to point it out in all my new videos. People get relentless in the comments because they know they can't get punched in the mouth.
I noticed holes in my jon boat hull around the factory installed stainless screws in the transom. It appeared that plastic washers were used and probably sealant but it failed over the years. Be very careful!
@@SendItJonBoats I wouldn't have ANY problem standing in your garage with a beer in my hand telling you what a dumbass you are. I do it all the time. Never been punched. Ya just gotta know how to call someone a dumbass without insulting them....it's a skill
@@edstimator1 I've been called worse... You couldn't insult me if you tried. This was an experiment to see if it would work, and it worked just fine. The keyboard warriors and nay sayers don't have the balls to try something different and put it out there on the internet like I do. If it was an epic fail, I would gladly do a video and tell everyone not to do what I did, but that's what experiments are for, to test out different ways of doing things. But who knew that something as simple as putting float pods on the boat would draw out some much controversy!
Awesome stuff dude. Check out a place called “ wicks” for odd parts with aluminum and the yard store for tooling with rivets. Everything you’re doing is kinda in a way aviation stuff. They way you did it works end of the day man got it done🫡. In the future etch and alodien the metal dramatically help with corrosion. Spread that sealant all over the surface from one end to the other and bolt or cleco squeeze the two surfaces together. Then lay out either a lot of smaller rivets in a checker board pattern and squeeze them in wet with sealer. Or use big rivets and do doublers or strips or metal on the back of your transom no need for washers then. Just watch some aviation sheet metal videos or something prolly. Be better informed for ya than me. Again love your setup dude really wana do the same in the future can’t thank you enough for all the videos dude bravo getter done build buddy! Cheers 🍻
I like it. I turned to youtube to see if anyone had tried something different cuz fuck cutting an access panel. best idea yet with the rivots. but..... now that you have run it.. how'd it do??
It did great and I love it! I will be doing an update video soon and I want to cover some float pods myths as well because everything I read online I found from experience was false.
Is your boat 36” or 48” wide? I’m thinking about getting small float pods to help with the weight of my new 15hp Mercury. I’m afraid that my 1436 isn’t wide enough. I will only have 14” between the pods.
We shall see what happens.... Doubt I will even own this boat in 5 years, but even then the 5200 and the paint layer in-between should help prolong it.
What did you do to prep the 3M 5200 for paint? Sorry if you mentioned it in the painting video, but I can’t remember if you said anything about it or not. Love the channel! It’s saved me a ton of time while working on my boat.
Man I added those to my boat by welding year ago and they have been fine and I thing they work to a degree. However, I want to now add a Hunt Deck to the rear using the pods to complete that build. I look on UA-cam and no one has done this. Any advice you can give please reply. I have access to Aluminum welding and will buy necessary aluminum to make this work,
@@SendItJonBoats that is where I got mine. Get the bigger size though, the smaller size it will break with the 3/16 rivets, even though it says it's rated for them. Once I got the bigger one, no problems with 3/16 SS rivets. Put over 100 of them in the top cap.
Hello, I'm a recent subscriber just working my way through your library. I'm learning a lot, so, thanks for that. I apologize in advance. Plenty of people have already made plenty of comments about the stainless screws in aluminum. I'm still gonna add mine. If you're aluminum, and somebody ran a stainless steel screw through you, well, you've been screwed. The good part, is that since it's a stainless screw, it won't leave a mark. So nobody else has to know that you've been screwed. I have a question; what is the collection of colorful, sort of gourd shaped things, hanging on the wall behind you?
BWWAAAHHHHAAAA that was the funniest thing I have heard all day! I am so screwed! LOL Thanks for joining in Bob, glad to hear you are enjoying the videos.
@@bob2161 Oh sorry, I missed the last part of your question. Those colorful things are called speed shapes. I own a hydro dipping shop and we use those plastic speed shapes as samples for new patterns and customers can look at them. Since the weather has been so crappy lately I have been filming inside the shop when I can to stay warm. I also have a hydro dipping channel as well, where I do weekly hydro dipping videos. Channel is ATF Hydrographics, or All Things Fun Hydrographics.
@@SendItJonBoats thanks for the response. I've looked them up and now I know. I will have to check out your other channel after I've caught up on this one. I'm learning a lot. It seems we have similar senses of humor. I have to ask about this channels name. The term "Send it", to me, conjures the image of a spotter and a, let's call him a ballistic projectile delivery specialist (keep the algorithm happy), laying prone, on some ridge top. When I picture that, and the unicorn mounted warrior in your intro hollering "Send it", well, it's pretty hard for me to not giggle and grin. (How's that for a run on sentence?) Is my imagination on track or has it jumped the rails?
I have a silly idea that I have been pondering. What if you were to put insulation panel on the bottom outside of the boat then fiberglass over? What that increase buoyancy since the foam is then technically between the bottom and water?
You can use stainless steel washers and bolts on aluminum with no issues at all if you put a plastic washer in between the aluminum and the stainless or if you can't find thin plastic washers then you can even use duct tape!!! I have worked on and built and rebuilt semi trailers for my whole life and alot of trailer manufacturers will even use just packing tape to put between aluminum and steel or stainless steel. Just as long as the steel doesn't touch the aluminium directly. The reason is when steel and aluminum touch eachother it causes a chemical reaction between the two metals and causes electrolysis and it will turn chalky white and eat away at the aluminum like rust does to steel and before you know it the aluminum will disappear around the steel. And also if you had a big daddy pop rivet gun you could get into those corners better and those blindhead rivets that you used are the right choice for any rivet used on a boat hull and would be my go to for being water tight.
@@SendItJonBoats I never even replace batt lol sure it's time for a up grade but why I used it every day used to drill threw plow studs till drill motor was smoken bout 5 years ago it just didn't quick it's in my box kinda retired but still works!
It wouldn't add any extra floatation, it has been tried before and all it does is give moisture a potential place to get trapped and either water log the foam or start molding.
Is there room between the pods to run an outboard? I don't use mud motors but thinking the benefits of getting on plane quicker and floating more shallow and level would be nice, although I don't remember seeing pods with a regular outboard. Perhaps it isn't noticeable enough to be worth it
They make the pods in different sizes so you can get a size that will allow you to run an outboard if you want. Mine are the medium and on my 1648 I would have plenty of room to run an outboard and not have any turning issues.
I had a set of floats tig welded on my 18 ft Lowe Big Jon. I think it weakened the metal and the one float is tearing away and will leak. I'm probably going to add pieces of aluminum diamond plate to the inside installing a new set on a 16ft boat.
Awesome vids and explanations on the process. Did you use more rivets on the second pod and why? Sorry if this has been explained already. I’m using your method when I do mine as I’ve used 5200 for a lot of crazy stuff and it’s held on like the last fruit of a loon on worn underwear.
I ended up putting eight rivets total in each pod, and I think I added the last few after the camera was off because it was getting dark. They held up great and 6 would have been plenty
I’ve heard that the pods can negatively effect steering when using an out board instead of a long tail. Has that been your experience? Do you have any info about that? Thanks
Im running a longtail mud motor, the pods wonts affect anything for turning. On an outboard or short tail mudmotor you would have to measure before you installed them so it wont mess up your motor turning.
@@SendItJonBoats The small ones are 15.5 wide. So they will not work if you add 2 of them because the bottom of the boat is 30 inches from one end to another. Could these be installed under the boat maybe at the back some how?
@@SendItJonBoats I don't want to put pods on it. I just want to make it at least legal. The plate says 300 lbs or 2 person. Or 355 lbs persons, gear, and motor. Well, I could not go fishing out on the water with my brother. Because we are about 455 total weight ourselves. I do not want to get stopped by the game warden and them saying you are over weight. I would assume when they stop people they check the weight capacity sticker.
That would be really cool. I have seen a few made that go across the entire back of the boat and they look great. Should add a lot of buoyancy the back end.
Appreciate that Rusty Nail. They seem to be holding up well so far. I am going to run them for a year and do a follow up video to see how they hold up long term.
@@SendItJonBoats ok, thank you. My boat has storage boxes on each side that are welded in. I would have to cut access holes in each to get to the inside of the transom for the rivets (or bolts if I did it that way). As much as i like the adhesive concept, and even have the 5200 on the bench.....might be stuck with finding a welder. But I'm still thinking as I have to cut holes to get to the old waterlogged floatation foam ...... thank you. Pls keep up the great video's!
What about a plate on the back side? I have use 3/16" 2" flat in areas like that also got a section of aluminum plate up to 1/4" for heavy stress areas. BTW Looks great. Great job!
I thought about trying a plate on the inside of the transom, but I figured I might as well try it without it since we are experimenting. So far its holding up fine. All that 5200 really stiffened up the transom once it cured. I am going to run it for a year and see what happens and do a follow up video.
I was filming in my hydro dipping shop, and the things on the wall are called speed shapes... they are just samples of the hydro dipping patterns we have. If you want to check out my hydro dipping channel it is ATF Hydrographics. We use those speed shapes all the time to test out new patterns and designs.
@@SendItJonBoats would the medium size work well with a 1436 or should I use the small ones? More flotation the better but room for the engine is another story
@@nate4036 You would have to measure how much room your motor needs to turn fully from side to side, then figure out which one will fit and allow it to turn without smacking the pod
no over the top dramatised theatrics like so many others, great information (i've never heard of 3m 5200, thank you) and funny "guess what has two thumbs and doesn't care ? points at self" that was funny right there, won me over subbed.
I would have done threaded rivet nuts in the float pods, drilled through holes in the boat, and bolted them on with thread lock, and 3M 5200 in between for waterproofing.
I am not really sure on the math part or volume part, hopefully someone smarter than me can help. I know that I can but a 250 lb motor on the back, plus me at 240, and my buddy who is about 180 on the back of the boat and water barely comes up to the top of the pods. So It does add a good bit of flotation.
Pretty sure it’s only bad in salt water to mix the metals, I got a jon that had steel bolts in the transom and they were super corroded around the holes that were drilled and tiny pin holes all over where corrosion ate into the transom. The new jon I have was only ran in fresh water and has steel in it for the outboard and rod holder mounts and has no corrosion what so ever🤘🏻🎣 just make sure to always rinse salt water and never Moore it in salt and it will be just fine!
Good points.... and I agree completely. I only say that stuff in videos because the internet keyboard warriors and aeronautical space engineers love to comment and talk crap about using dissimilar metals. When I had this video on my hydro dipping channels I had quite a few nasty comments and emails about it and it got old quick.
They have held up great, not a single complaint. I am working on a follow up video this next few weeks since there has been so many questions about them.
No, they only help keep the back of the boat riding higher in the water. They do not add any side to side stability. Need to make the boat wider to do that.
I am really curious on how well the pod mod job is holding up ? I have been working on a way to install a set of these pods on my 18 foot starcraft. I will be hitting sub. On your channel.
@@SendItJonBoats that is awesome to hear on both parts . Can't wait to see the video. What was the ballpark price tag on those pods ? I think you mentioned in the video on where you got them from but not sure . I am thinking about making a custom set for my boat but it would depend on the price of buying prefabbed pods .I appreciate the reply send it Jon boats .
Holding up amazing and they work great. I cant recommend them enough. I have drug that boat all over the place by the pods, picked it up, rolled it over, hit stumps, smashed into boat docks... still holding on just fine.
If I was a smart man... that would have been a great idea, but I didn't think of that... and the hardware store was a lot easier. LOL. Next time, I will use your idea because thats really smart. Wish I would have thought of that!
I like your mounting method its simplicity is the selling point you just need to do a very careful job of placement before drilling and putting on that sealant
Nope, foam will not do anything and will not add floatation. It only helps if you swamp the boat to keep it floating longer while you bail the water out.
I did it the same way but instead of washers I used 1/8 thick aluminum plate I bought 4x8 sheet and scribed the whole inside of the transom and yeah that 5200 is no joke, I run a 25merc 2stroke and there's zero flex anywhere on a 1448 Lowe
The southern sarcasm makes me feel like I’m watching my own kinfolk on here. Love it
LOL. Yeah we got some funny southern sarcasm for sure! Much more to come.
Finally a video where someone takes you through step for step
I like to break down nice and simple for folks that want to try it out.
I don't even have an aluminum boat, why am I even here... well at least I now know how to add floats, how to apply gator glide, and how to paint a jon boat. Great videos lol, got me wanting a boat now just to use this newfound knowledge.
LOL. I am glad you found the channel and sounds like you have the boat bug now! Time to start shopping for a cheapo jon boat! LOL
It's good to see you show the bloopers as well as the good stuff,keep it going
Thank you Steve... just trying to keep it real and entertaining. Appreciate you watching.
Excellent video! I'm thinking about some float pods for my 16' X 50" river bass boat. Further, as a retired law enforcement official, I appreciate the thin blue line, thank you.
Thanks Steve. Glad you enjoyed the video
I would highly recomend getting an air powered rivet puller. Will solve your tight corner pull problems and sooooo much time/fatigue in the long run if you do a lot of boat work.
New to the channel just got a grizzly 1648 SC. My first “tiny” boat. Get rid of the flapper wheel and try this. I work on aluminum trains this was a game changer for us.
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I am new to your channel and I want to tell you that I had a great time watching your crazy video and hopefully you make more of these videos and also hopefully that your channel blows up because I think you definitely got great potential. UA-cam is supposed to be putting entertainment and educational and I think it fits right in. Good luck with the channel man.
Thank you Alex, I really appreciate that. I love making videos and showing my crazy ideas. I got many more insane ideas coming up soon, I think everyone will be excited about some of the upcoming projects. I really do hope the channel blows up as well so I can afford to do bigger and better boat builds for you guys.
This method is a total game changer with regard to installation. Great video and thanks for sharing this knowledge!
Glad I could help. Just a cool idea and wanted to try it. Worked out great.
Ok I subscribed. Going back in time to see your channel’s history
Welcome aboard!
Found your channel a few minutes ago and I'm already hooked. Just subscribed.
Thanks bud! Glad you are enjoying it. I will have to check out your channel as well, I love watching other youtubers with great minds that think alike! YEE YEE!
Yeah the bloopers could have been a video by themselves!!! That was awesome!!!
LOL... everyone loves the bloopers, that why I include them in every video. Thanks for watching, glad I could make you laugh.
@@SendItJonBoats it also lets people know that it’s ok to goof up even in the simplest of tasks. Great video !!
@@EPGunman You should see the videos before editing.... 10 minutes of video makes for about 2 hours of me cussing, stumbling over my words, saying off the wall stuff... yeah it's entertaining to say the least.
@@SendItJonBoats lmao I can relate!!! One reason I don’t make any type of videos!!!! I would banned quickly because I am quite colorful when I speak lol.
I have a 14’X60” welded aluminum boat with a tunnel hull and a 70hp Johnson. The outboard weighted the back end of the boat down with the 12 gallon gas tank and batteries in the back of the boat so I did the exact same thing you did to mount them I just did not use sealed rivets and I used 25 rivets per float pod and they are solid! Used a bunch of 5200 fast cure and I can stand on them no problem, great to sit on when in the water and to climb in and out of the boat. Float pods did exactly what I wanted them to ( raised the back end 6” and kept water from coming over transom when coming off plane) after seeing you method I had to try it and do it for myself!
AWesome to hear it went well for you. I really like it so far and it has worked great for me.
Still holding up?
Thank you for this bro this is how I'm doing it. Hoping the angle works out though because if not this method wouldn't work out would it? Worried about burning through while welding them
Been working great on my boat, no complaints yet.
Just found your channel while searching for a solution to my same problem. I am also putting an outboard that is too heavy for my jon boat. Figured somebody had a solution, you gained a new follower at the unicorn intro😂😂😂 good stuff man. Looking forward to watching your other videos
Awesome my man, welcome to the channel. The pods will help for sure. I love mine
1/8" flat alum stock make great washers. How have they held up with all the water pressures of motor use and such?
Why didn't I think of that.... because im a retard. Good idea.
My floats were tig welded on but I changed the drain plugs to wrench tighten and cut off the 2 handles so nothing for branches to snag ! I like this install and save the $650.00 I paid for tig welding also put traction pads on top if I ever did need to climb in that way on a Lowe 18ft Big Jon !
I use either nylon or neoprene washers under SS washers to isolate the two metals, but I tend to overkill.
Good tip, I didnt even think of that. May be overkill but if it works who cares! I will add that to the next one!
Please do a follow up video about how the float pods are doing are they still solid is the glue pilling ex.
I am working on a video for it. Log story short, they held up fine, not a single issue.
Used 3M 5200 20 years ago on my 38 foot Topaz. It really does hold forever. If things are clean.
I have heard the same thing James, as long as the install is clean the 5200 seems to last a really long time. These pods are holding up really well so far.
@@SendItJonBoats I was looking for if the pods were lasting. I like the idea of this. I’ve been thinking about pods but welders here are expensive. Just found the channel and love it.
@@SendItJonBoats do you post the material list for the rivet washer bit size. Awesome video sir, I'm going to order these so my son and I can try putting them on our flat bottom boat
A 3/4 inch hole saw in 3/16 inch aluminum plate will make perfect washers.
Very good idea! Why did I not think of that!
@@SendItJonBoats That's what the internet is for ! we get great ideas from EACH OTHER !!
1436 hull? Could you recommend best shaft length? I was wondering if 100" shaft would work for stock 1436? Thanks for informative video-
Thinking about doing this but then aluminum brazing the edges.
That is completely doable.
keep on bolting pods to boats guys! as a fabricator i love to see yall pull into my driveway after you've ripped them off.
Thanks for the words encouragement Dustin. Appreciate you watching the video.
@@SendItJonBoats i like your channel bud. I've just fixed some "bolt on" versions as well as cut the bottoms open to get the pitch right. The angled bottom you got going on will cause the boat to porpoise uncontrollable. Unfortunatly one pod profile doesn't fit every hull but Beavertail does not care about that. Best thing to do is to go have a quality fabricator build a set of pods specifically designed for your hull.
@@DustinApple Any advice going forward ??? because I have not been able to find any reliable source of information about what angle and height the pods are supposed to be, so I just went with what Beavertail said in the instructions. But that makes sense they are just out to sell pods, they could care less if they actually work or not.
@@SendItJonBoats there's some personal preference involved. Flat and flush is my favorite witch gives the most floatation but hinders turning a lot. For most cases the front of the pod being flush and the back of the pod 1/2" above will allow it to retain moderate turning. It's also popular to mount the pods 3/4" from the bottom. That step will allow the water to break suction from the bottom of the pod and will be sportier to turn. It almost retains the same manners on pad that way. The problem with your current setup is the bottom angle is to great. Water suction will want to pull the pod down. It will want to lift the nose uncontrollable to the point to where when you get on pad the front will crash hard into the water and begin a violent porpoise. Ive learned this lesson the hard way. No amount of trim angle will help.
@@DustinApple Thanks for finally steering me in the right direction.... no one ever has good info on how the pods affect performance. Does running a longtail mud motor make any difference or does this just apply to outboards and short tails?
Awesome build!!! Oh my...."Did he just use stainless steel washers?" hahahaha. I did the same on mine, and also used 3M 5200 on the bare aluminum surface. So, no worries in sight👍
Ha Ha... I caught hell on my other channel in the comments everytime I used stainless, so I made sure to point it out in all my new videos. People get relentless in the comments because they know they can't get punched in the mouth.
I noticed holes in my jon boat hull around the factory installed stainless screws in the transom. It appeared that plastic washers were used and probably sealant but it failed over the years. Be very careful!
@@SendItJonBoats I wouldn't have ANY problem standing in your garage with a beer in my hand telling you what a dumbass you are. I do it all the time. Never been punched. Ya just gotta know how to call someone a dumbass without insulting them....it's a skill
@@edstimator1 I've been called worse... You couldn't insult me if you tried. This was an experiment to see if it would work, and it worked just fine. The keyboard warriors and nay sayers don't have the balls to try something different and put it out there on the internet like I do. If it was an epic fail, I would gladly do a video and tell everyone not to do what I did, but that's what experiments are for, to test out different ways of doing things. But who knew that something as simple as putting float pods on the boat would draw out some much controversy!
@@SendItJonBoats Hey dude....I liked it! And I respect your willingness to try something new. You're my kind of guy.
Awesome stuff dude. Check out a place called “ wicks” for odd parts with aluminum and the yard store for tooling with rivets. Everything you’re doing is kinda in a way aviation stuff. They way you did it works end of the day man got it done🫡. In the future etch and alodien the metal dramatically help with corrosion. Spread that sealant all over the surface from one end to the other and bolt or cleco squeeze the two surfaces together. Then lay out either a lot of smaller rivets in a checker board pattern and squeeze them in wet with sealer. Or use big rivets and do doublers or strips or metal on the back of your transom no need for washers then. Just watch some aviation sheet metal videos or something prolly. Be better informed for ya than me. Again love your setup dude really wana do the same in the future can’t thank you enough for all the videos dude bravo getter done build buddy! Cheers 🍻
How did the boat draft before the pods come paired to with them ? Looking into building some for my 14' skiff.
When I put them on I had nothing in the boat so they made no difference. Now that I got it loaded down I can tell it is helping a lot.
The Beavertail flotation pods are back on Amazon I’ve ordered a set for my 1648 Alumicraft
Oh cool, I didn't know they had them back on amazon again! Awesome sauce!
Dave Crowley, I have a 1648 alumacraft, which pods did you buy and how did they work?
Thanks
I like it. I turned to youtube to see if anyone had tried something different cuz fuck cutting an access panel. best idea yet with the rivots. but..... now that you have run it.. how'd it do??
It did great and I love it! I will be doing an update video soon and I want to cover some float pods myths as well because everything I read online I found from experience was false.
@@SendItJonBoats Sweet, looking forward to it
Is your boat 36” or 48” wide? I’m thinking about getting small float pods to help with the weight of my new 15hp Mercury. I’m afraid that my 1436 isn’t wide enough. I will only have 14” between the pods.
I have a 48 inch bottom. You can get the smaller pods for a 36 no problem.
How is the longevity of the 5200 holding up, keeping the pods on?
I have personally used aluminum rivets on a stainless piano hinge on a leaning post. In five years i flipped it up and it fell apart. I wish you luck
We shall see what happens.... Doubt I will even own this boat in 5 years, but even then the 5200 and the paint layer in-between should help prolong it.
Hey man where in GA are you located?
Oxford
What did you do to prep the 3M 5200 for paint? Sorry if you mentioned it in the painting video, but I can’t remember if you said anything about it or not. Love the channel! It’s saved me a ton of time while working on my boat.
Nothing special, jut cleaned and blasted it like it wasnt even there.
Hey have a couple questions on float pods ..i have a 14 ft boat and want to put a slightly biger motor will that help??
Yes it will help.
Man I added those to my boat by welding year ago and they have been fine and I thing they work to a degree. However, I want to now add a Hunt Deck to the rear using the pods to complete that build. I look on UA-cam and no one has done this. Any advice you can give please reply. I have access to Aluminum welding and will buy necessary aluminum to make this work,
Pretty simple, cut some aluminum to fill in the gap between the pods, and weld er' up!
First of your videos i've seen, loved it! You got another sub !! For installing a rubrail, I bought a cheap pneumatic rivet gun, worked great.
Nice, I need to get a pneumatic rivet gun one of these days. Next time I am at harbor freight I may need to grab one.
@@SendItJonBoats that is where I got mine. Get the bigger size though, the smaller size it will break with the 3/16 rivets, even though it says it's rated for them. Once I got the bigger one, no problems with 3/16 SS rivets. Put over 100 of them in the top cap.
@@fishingismydrug1 Great info. i will definitely give that a shot next time I am doing rivets! Thank you.
@@SendItJonBoats Your welcome Sir!
Question for ya. My hull walls are pretty low on a v Hull 14ft. Would it benefit to add them on a normal boat that isn’t a John boat?
They would help get the back end floating higher.
nice vid !!! aluminum hardware can be found in aircraft parts supplier ...
if you go to a small flying club you'll probably score free
Nice tip Jorge... Never knew that even existed. I am going to try to find one near me and see what I can find. Awesome info thank you very much!
How about any fasteners company?
@@frogmanpipes9561 AVIALL will also have such hardware ....good luck !
Awesome channel! Videos are great keep em coming
Thanks Mark! Many more videos coming soon! Glad to have you aboard the crazy train... or crazy boat in this case. LOL
How has this method held up for you so far in use? Rivets wearing out and getting sloppy? Thanks for the great content!!
Holding up just fine, not a single loose rivet and have hit several stumps and boat docks, no issues. Will be doing a follow up video soon.
the entire boat is made with rivets
@@jerrybear3081 exactly
Hello, I'm a recent subscriber just working my way through your library. I'm learning a lot, so, thanks for that. I apologize in advance. Plenty of people have already made plenty of comments about the stainless screws in aluminum. I'm still gonna add mine. If you're aluminum, and somebody ran a stainless steel screw through you, well, you've been screwed. The good part, is that since it's a stainless screw, it won't leave a mark. So nobody else has to know that you've been screwed.
I have a question; what is the collection of colorful, sort of gourd shaped things, hanging on the wall behind you?
BWWAAAHHHHAAAA that was the funniest thing I have heard all day! I am so screwed! LOL Thanks for joining in Bob, glad to hear you are enjoying the videos.
@@SendItJonBoats I would still like to know what those colorful things are that are hanging on your wall. 😃
@@bob2161 Oh sorry, I missed the last part of your question. Those colorful things are called speed shapes. I own a hydro dipping shop and we use those plastic speed shapes as samples for new patterns and customers can look at them. Since the weather has been so crappy lately I have been filming inside the shop when I can to stay warm. I also have a hydro dipping channel as well, where I do weekly hydro dipping videos. Channel is ATF Hydrographics, or All Things Fun Hydrographics.
@@SendItJonBoats thanks for the response. I've looked them up and now I know. I will have to check out your other channel after I've caught up on this one. I'm learning a lot.
It seems we have similar senses of humor. I have to ask about this channels name. The term "Send it", to me, conjures the image of a spotter and a, let's call him a ballistic projectile delivery specialist (keep the algorithm happy), laying prone, on some ridge top. When I picture that, and the unicorn mounted warrior in your intro hollering "Send it", well, it's pretty hard for me to not giggle and grin. (How's that for a run on sentence?) Is my imagination on track or has it jumped the rails?
@@bob2161 You are absolutely on the right track! I like pew pews and going fast so put the two together and ya SEND IT!!!! LOL
I have a silly idea that I have been pondering. What if you were to put insulation panel on the bottom outside of the boat then fiberglass over? What that increase buoyancy since the foam is then technically between the bottom and water?
You can use stainless steel washers and bolts on aluminum with no issues at all if you put a plastic washer in between the aluminum and the stainless or if you can't find thin plastic washers then you can even use duct tape!!! I have worked on and built and rebuilt semi trailers for my whole life and alot of trailer manufacturers will even use just packing tape to put between aluminum and steel or stainless steel. Just as long as the steel doesn't touch the aluminium directly. The reason is when steel and aluminum touch eachother it causes a chemical reaction between the two metals and causes electrolysis and it will turn chalky white and eat away at the aluminum like rust does to steel and before you know it the aluminum will disappear around the steel. And also if you had a big daddy pop rivet gun you could get into those corners better and those blindhead rivets that you used are the right choice for any rivet used on a boat hull and would be my go to for being water tight.
Thanks Jason. Glad you enjoyed the video.
I have that drill. Had it for ten years and still works and used as a work horse it will never break. Myn looks like hell I'll send u a pic of u want
I Love my porter cable 18v. Had it for about 7 or 8 years, still works great. Had to buy a new battery on amazon and it works great.
@@SendItJonBoats I never even replace batt lol sure it's time for a up grade but why I used it every day used to drill threw plow studs till drill motor was smoken bout 5 years ago it just didn't quick it's in my box kinda retired but still works!
That is mod is super badass. This how the #pocketrocket will support the harley motor forsure.
Pocket will have much larger pods that are getting custom built. Gonna need a lot of pod to float that big ol motor.
Rivet packs usual show what size to drill for the head.
Yeah... if your a smart man and dont throw the box away.
To bad you didn't find a small 1/8 aluminum plate to reinforce the inside with! Are these still working for you I want to do them?
Just wonder if you could also drill small hole on inside & fill with spray foam to help with the Floats???
It wouldn't add any extra floatation, it has been tried before and all it does is give moisture a potential place to get trapped and either water log the foam or start molding.
Arent you that send it jon boats guy?
I hope so.... that guy knows his way around around a slick bottom and a nice pair of float pods.
Make your own alu washers with Hole saw..any thickness /size ya want
Genius.... why didn't I think of that!!!! DUH!
Is there room between the pods to run an outboard? I don't use mud motors but thinking the benefits of getting on plane quicker and floating more shallow and level would be nice, although I don't remember seeing pods with a regular outboard. Perhaps it isn't noticeable enough to be worth it
They make the pods in different sizes so you can get a size that will allow you to run an outboard if you want. Mine are the medium and on my 1648 I would have plenty of room to run an outboard and not have any turning issues.
I had a set of floats tig welded on my 18 ft Lowe Big Jon. I think it weakened the metal and the one float is tearing away and will leak. I'm probably going to add pieces of aluminum diamond plate to the inside installing a new set on a 16ft boat.
ohhh thats not good. Sometimes the welder overheats the metal and it can weaken it a lot.
what are those things u have hanging on the wall? its driving me crazy because i have no idea.
Speed shapes. They are test pieces for my hydrodipping company.
Awesome vids and explanations on the process. Did you use more rivets on the second pod and why? Sorry if this has been explained already. I’m using your method when I do mine as I’ve used 5200 for a lot of crazy stuff and it’s held on like the last fruit of a loon on worn underwear.
I ended up putting eight rivets total in each pod, and I think I added the last few after the camera was off because it was getting dark. They held up great and 6 would have been plenty
I’ve heard that the pods can negatively effect steering when using an out board instead of a long tail. Has that been your experience? Do you have any info about that? Thanks
I have never tried it with an outboard so I have no idea
Great video! I’m looking at doing the same to my 1542 topper.
What size boat is this and are these the large pods?
Those are the medium pods from Beavertail. They worked perfect in my boat.
I would like to see the finished product with motor on the water to see if any interference with tight turning?
Im running a longtail mud motor, the pods wonts affect anything for turning. On an outboard or short tail mudmotor you would have to measure before you installed them so it wont mess up your motor turning.
Any update on how it held up after a year?
ua-cam.com/video/2eNfTaHZIGs/v-deo.html
Did an update video. There ya go
I think my drain plug is offset to the right side. May have to make float pods according so they don't block drain !
Yeah don't want to block the drain, you would always take it to a welder and have a new one put in.
Will these work on a John Boat that is 30 inches in flat width on the bottom? I notice the size chart is for boats at least 40 inches wide.
The smalls may work, but you will have to measure them and see.
@@SendItJonBoats The small ones are 15.5 wide. So they will not work if you add 2 of them because the bottom of the boat is 30 inches from one end to another. Could these be installed under the boat maybe at the back some how?
@@loopster40 I wouldn't waste the time or effort on a 30 inch wide boat. Better off getting a wider boat if you really want pods.
@@SendItJonBoats I don't want to put pods on it. I just want to make it at least legal. The plate says 300 lbs or 2 person. Or 355 lbs persons, gear, and motor. Well, I could not go fishing out on the water with my brother. Because we are about 455 total weight ourselves. I do not want to get stopped by the game warden and them saying you are over weight. I would assume when they stop people they check the weight capacity sticker.
@@loopster40 They may in some areas, not where I am so I do not worry about it too much
I've been thinking of making some pods on a matching plate of aluminum that fits to the back of my entire boat's transom.
That would be really cool. I have seen a few made that go across the entire back of the boat and they look great. Should add a lot of buoyancy the back end.
If i add these to my boat, would i need to change the boat length on title and registration?
You could have used an aluminum plate the size of your floats as a stiffener insteadof washers. Just a thought.
Looks good.
That's actually a good idea, I did not think of that.
@@SendItJonBoats I'm an engineer but not a good painter.
I binge watched your build videos and you gave me some great ideas for my boat.
Send it!
@@markjob7736 Heck yeah man, send it!
You’d put a plate on the inside of the boat? That would evenly distribute the stress right ?
What thickness would you suggest ?
@@stumblin_bummblin9774 1/4 " to 3/8" thick
Why would you not use a Teflon washer in between the washer and the boat ??
Couldn't find any local. Should have ordered some.
thanks for the info. looking good.
Appreciate that Rusty Nail. They seem to be holding up well so far. I am going to run them for a year and do a follow up video to see how they hold up long term.
@@SendItJonBoats sound's good , i will be waiting to see . good luck.
What are the rivets for whenn the adhesive is what's doing the work ?
Extra strength and to hold the pods in place while the 5200 cures. That stuff takes days to set up!
@@SendItJonBoats ok, thank you. My boat has storage boxes on each side that are welded in. I would have to cut access holes in each to get to the inside of the transom for the rivets (or bolts if I did it that way). As much as i like the adhesive concept, and even have the 5200 on the bench.....might be stuck with finding a welder. But I'm still thinking as I have to cut holes to get to the old waterlogged floatation foam ...... thank you. Pls keep up the great video's!
Are your pods still on after 2years? Wanting to try this.
What about a plate on the back side? I have use 3/16" 2" flat in areas like that also got a section of aluminum plate up to 1/4" for heavy stress areas. BTW Looks great. Great job!
I thought about trying a plate on the inside of the transom, but I figured I might as well try it without it since we are experimenting. So far its holding up fine. All that 5200 really stiffened up the transom once it cured. I am going to run it for a year and see what happens and do a follow up video.
Bro video is great on question tho what are those things hanging behind you when talking ?
I was filming in my hydro dipping shop, and the things on the wall are called speed shapes... they are just samples of the hydro dipping patterns we have. If you want to check out my hydro dipping channel it is ATF Hydrographics. We use those speed shapes all the time to test out new patterns and designs.
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How are they holding up?? I am thinking about putting a fan drive on my 1238 jon!!!!
Holding up great, I would do it again in a heartbeat.
@@SendItJonBoats Awesome love love love your videos!!!
@@bobbyyoung7836 Thank you so much, glad you are enjoying the videos. Many more fun ones to come
So are the pods still attached to the boat after 2 years?
Wonder how these would work on a 17ft bass tracker? I hate how low the back of the boat sits in the water.
Would probably work great, I highly recommend them. Helped my boat not squat in the back and they ran fine.
What size float pods did you end up using? I see that beaver tail has three options available.
I used the medium size. They fit perfect for my 1648. if my boat was wider I would have got the Large pods for more floatation.
Ok cool, I have a 1648 as well. I’ll order the medium. Thanks for the info
@@casanova2xm No problem, good luck. I am sure you will love them. I love mine.
@@SendItJonBoats would the medium size work well with a 1436 or should I use the small ones? More flotation the better but room for the engine is another story
@@nate4036 You would have to measure how much room your motor needs to turn fully from side to side, then figure out which one will fit and allow it to turn without smacking the pod
Does it change the wake of the boat?
Yes it does, I got a lot of video footage of it and will be doing a full review video soon.
@@SendItJonBoats ok, thanks
What did you do with the drain holes in the pods ??
I put drain plugs in them. Hasn't Leaked yet.
no over the top dramatised theatrics like so many others, great information (i've never heard of 3m 5200, thank you) and funny "guess what has two thumbs and doesn't care ? points at self" that was funny right there, won me over subbed.
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching
Would that work on Aluminum bass boats?
Sure would. Been on over a year and not a single problem.
I've thought of this many times. Usually about 3:15 AM but I've never seen it done. It worked???
LOL The best ideas come late night hours and in the shower! Yes it worked really well. I love it!
@@SendItJonBoats Fantastic! The build looked pretty pro. I liked it.
@@edstimator1 Thank you!
Did you mention where to buy those pods ?
Yes, I got mine from amazon, but a few places sell them. Cabelas, Backwater, Beavertail
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Thank you for the sub!
I would have done threaded rivet nuts in the float pods, drilled through holes in the boat, and bolted them on with thread lock, and 3M 5200 in between for waterproofing.
I could have done a lot of things, but I wanted to try this and experiment to see if it will work. It worked.
How much flotation does that give you? How much cubic feet of volume do they add?
I am not really sure on the math part or volume part, hopefully someone smarter than me can help. I know that I can but a 250 lb motor on the back, plus me at 240, and my buddy who is about 180 on the back of the boat and water barely comes up to the top of the pods. So It does add a good bit of flotation.
Pretty sure it’s only bad in salt water to mix the metals, I got a jon that had steel bolts in the transom and they were super corroded around the holes that were drilled and tiny pin holes all over where corrosion ate into the transom. The new jon I have was only ran in fresh water and has steel in it for the outboard and rod holder mounts and has no corrosion what so ever🤘🏻🎣 just make sure to always rinse salt water and never Moore it in salt and it will be just fine!
Good points.... and I agree completely. I only say that stuff in videos because the internet keyboard warriors and aeronautical space engineers love to comment and talk crap about using dissimilar metals. When I had this video on my hydro dipping channels I had quite a few nasty comments and emails about it and it got old quick.
Thinking about building a boat
Do it, so much fun... and lots of cussing, throwing things, being broke.... bunches of fun.
How have these held up for you over the past 7 months? Wanting to do the same but not sure if I should have a shop do them or do them myself
They have held up great, not a single complaint. I am working on a follow up video this next few weeks since there has been so many questions about them.
Any update after a few months use? No errant float pod drifting in the lake?
Nope, they are still on there, and holding up really well. I would do it again in a heart beat. I got an update video coming soon.
@@SendItJonBoats what size engine did you squeeze on it and what was the clearance like?
Mine is bolted on with stainless steel nuts and bolts and sealer
cool
question, what do these help with? stability?
No, they only help keep the back of the boat riding higher in the water. They do not add any side to side stability. Need to make the boat wider to do that.
I am really curious on how well the pod mod job is holding up ?
I have been working on a way to install a set of these pods on my 18 foot starcraft. I will be hitting sub. On your channel.
They are holding up fine and I love them. I am working on a follow up video so I can show everyone how they have done. I get asked about them daily!
@@SendItJonBoats that is awesome to hear on both parts . Can't wait to see the video.
What was the ballpark price tag on those pods ? I think you mentioned in the video on where you got them from but not sure . I am thinking about making a custom set for my boat but it would depend on the price of buying prefabbed pods .I appreciate the reply send it Jon boats .
@@ferrellcat5860 NEw update video is out now. I think I paid about 320ish after shipping for mine.
@@SendItJonBoats thanks for the Info . I already watched it the day you uploaded it .
Can I just use the 5200 without rivets?
I wouldn't. The Rivets do the bulk of the holding, the 5200 is just for good measure.
How's the install holding up?
I'm about to order some for my boat and am torn on what method to stick them on with.
Holding up amazing and they work great. I cant recommend them enough. I have drug that boat all over the place by the pods, picked it up, rolled it over, hit stumps, smashed into boat docks... still holding on just fine.
@@SendItJonBoats
Good deal, thanks for the reply.
Good info🤩👍👍💪
Thanks for watching, glad you enjoyed it.
You didnt think of just making your own aluminum washers? Seems like an easy piece of hardware to fab
If I was a smart man... that would have been a great idea, but I didn't think of that... and the hardware store was a lot easier. LOL. Next time, I will use your idea because thats really smart. Wish I would have thought of that!
OOOR..plan ahead and buy some aluminum washers?
@@edstimator1 Will you be my secretary and track down hardware for me before I start a project ? I will pay you in sandwiches and beer!
@@SendItJonBoats lol...love it!
I like your mounting method its simplicity is the selling point you just need to do a very careful job of placement before drilling and putting on that sealant
Yes be very careful when drilling. It's one of those measure 14 times and drill once.
How many rivets did you end up using
8 on each pod.
Did you fill your pods with foam?
Nope, foam will not do anything and will not add floatation. It only helps if you swamp the boat to keep it floating longer while you bail the water out.
@UCXYVFXnAKWRXQggQstHAvIA I agree, however, wouldn't it add weight to your boat on one side of it flooded?
I did it the same way but instead of washers I used 1/8 thick aluminum plate I bought 4x8 sheet and scribed the whole inside of the transom and yeah that 5200 is no joke, I run a 25merc 2stroke and there's zero flex anywhere on a 1448 Lowe
Could have used bar steel and used it across the spread of all three rivits for transom strength
Thats a good idea. I did not think of that.
You think this would work on a 12 ft vhull😁?
Sure will