The Japanese and Chinese debaters find it difficult to argue and defend their points not because they have weak arguments but because of the language which they haven't mastered to use yet.. Good fight though!!
@@Andioooop come on as a britt i would say the best way to learn or master english is to communicate and talk to people !! and i think there english is pretty good considering they are from a country where englsh is not used that much
@@Andioooop That's not exactly logical. If I'm disabled, it doesn't mean I shouldn't have a shot at life. Just because their English isn't as affluent doesn't mean signing up isn't worth it.
@@werren894 Sorry I think other Asian countries as mentioned have more than enough capability to compete. It's just a fact of exposure of this competition and choice of involvement. Just a kind thought.
@vital views What crap is that. Indians don't have to prove their competence, look at the global corporate leaders and you will be able to come out of your cave to see where the world is moving.
Sarah h Completely disagrees.. English is not an issue but the way you prepare for debate. Its better to simply deliver your ideas what ever accent you have as far as its being presented calmly without chewing the words!!
You just showed nationalism which was against their argument, while trying to complement them at the same time. I find that funny😊 I know this is real late.
Feeling proud of Singaporean team because he is Singaporean, is national pride. National pride does not equates to nationalism. I love my country does not means I hate another country.
@@nizzismith5545 THAT IS NOT NATIONALISM. you have no idea what nationalism is it really is. because you’re happy for someone from the same country is not what nationalism is, nationalism is where you feel as your country is better than others and that you are more than other people from different countries. What you’re talking about is patriotism, patriotism is being prideful for the country that you live in, it does not mean you think of people less than. so next time you want to comment an incorrect comment. think.
She can speak rapid english but not all her stand are in line with the subject while the Japanese arguments were good only he finds it hard to speak English fluently.
@@phlow9417 in dirty way of course, ppl didn't like details about the problem in this planet and human just being optimistic that globalization would cure it/solving the issues which lead to cancer, it destroys america.
@@phlow9417 not globalization i mean global citizen, bcoz it uses the same concept, America state is a concept like global citizen so America doesn't exist in the first place just a concept and system by design, America is like the "guinea pig" of the future because the elites is not actually indigenous it is win by the war and everybody mix and culture plot like middle east back then and it destroys them, global citizen needs to be carefully discussed and addressed properly because culture plot would happen and destroying identity or being ignorant is not right, war is easy for mental revolution but it's wrong for civilized ppl, unless if u a refugee u won't understand.
This is so wrong. Debating is mostly about word playing and manipulating. Native English speakers will have overwhelming advantages over ESL speakers that’s not fair in a competition.
although i dont think singaporeans are native english speakers, but they do have english as their main language. and therefore have an advantage over their asian counterparts.
@@audyw4411 Everything in Singapore is in english from education to traffic signs, They have english as one of their official language. So if they grew up and were educated with english therefore it's their native languages at least one of them
Well, that is not entirely false. Look at Japan, South Korea and China right now. Most of theit population don't speak english well, but they were able to rival western powerhouse in terms of economic performance.
The first speaker must have scored pretty well for social studies since she basically reiterated everything in the 3rd issue (Globalization) of the textbook for some of her points
Exactly. its propaganda. It comes from the top -down. It is not a naturally occuring idea, although some factors leading to globalization are... not to the extent that the propaganda proposes
I love how the second korean girl at the closing government said that,(@ 42:38) although korea has anti sentiment towards japan she herself still loves them.😍 Ohh best girl in the debate
it was a luck of Singaporean students, for they got opening government in this debate since their country is a global one where many people with different cultures live there and their mother language is English. They explained their reasons well. As an Indonesian, I also agree to be a global citizen, so people can accept others easily as they used to do. In my opinion, becoming a global citizen surely makes people not become racist more, although not all people who have a great feel of nationalism are racist.
Ikr the more global countries like Singapore and Korea got the side for global citizens and the More nationalistic countries like China and Japan got the side for nationalism. But a Singaporean's mother language is not English, but their schooling is in English and most of them are more proficient in English than their mother tongues
This was such a easy topic for the proposing team to win because the world is on the way to globalization. I wonder what would have happened if the winners played the opposing team.
@pegan farm "islamization" ? Do you really think that people enter Islam forcibly ? if you think so , then you know nothing about islam , i suggest you to get to know islam before talking about some world war 3 or losing identity non sense , apparently you have no answers why islam is the most fastest growing religion in the world?
@pegan farm I'm shocked by your claims . with all due respect : 1 - Islam spreads through the message of peace no one is forcing anyone to accept it 2 - I'm talking about CONVERTED people besides non initially born Muslims 3 - again , you seem through your comment holding a grudge against Islam. why ? I don't know maybe you believe and consume everything the media says . .. Seriously what's there hurtful searching up info about Islam ? Read all the religious books then compare them . then you get why people convert to Islam .
@@ktp0294 I absolutely respect your opinion . in fact it's rightfully justified but those people you're talking about aren't Muslims . Islam prohibits any act of violence or aggression towards innocent peaceful people . Yes violence is authorized in some cases like defending own homes or even responding if necessary in case of any exterior aggression. Hence those people you're are bringing into this discussion are not civilized and 100% defying the teachings of Islam. Even true Muslims are stating this , it's unseen to the majority of the globe because the media is politically biased and spreads misinformation at any given moment . But over all the majority of Muslims don't blow themselves like it's some kind of good doing.
Students arguing against this motion clearly had a hard time providing coherent and effective argument against the motion not only because they seem to lack necessary language skills and confidence but also because they don't believe in what they are arguing against. Evidently, these students are taught to skillfully repeat talking points and not to think for themselves or even attempt to genuinely highlight differences between nationalism and globalism. They are trained to misrepresent and vilify what is considered to be politically incorrect or even mildly unorthodox. Thinking they are in the forefront of understanding and awareness unwittingly they help to perpetuate a new kind of dogma.
you welcome different type of people who are DESERVING, immigrants moving in forcefully is a different problem even Singapore does not allow that, and this is the main problem USA and European countries are facing. there is a big difference. imagine them coming in, not following the law and crying humanity when forced to follow the rules people already following.
globalist country sure u are, but doesn't mean that it is right. and plus, singapore only accept rich immigrants. i doubt singapore will accept poor malaysians in for example.
Man, this basically went as expected since the current international trend is geared towards globalization. It would've been more interesting if the opposing side won, but their stand is pretty difficult to defend.
I agree. When all the debaters and the whole audience STARTS from the viewpoints of: - Trump is evil - man made global warming is a given - globalization is better than nationalism ...... the end result of the voting can be easily predicted.
Singapore and Korea team were impressive to me. It doesnt mean I choose Korea because I am Korean. They organized and prepared what they have an opinion of the topic well. Language might be hard for the others. I think they are also able to do that same way as those students I mentioned if they use their own language. The most important thing that we should know is they are young but they can speak out about the global issues using another language! We better clap for them, not judging.
I refuse to clap to someone who is an ideologically possessed demon spouting one-sided political doctrine which I disagree for several reasons like incomprehensible speech due to multiple strings of contradiction and manipulation which can result to subtle mentality corruption because of weak/pathetic political perception towards the unpredictable world of deception (especially from the Singaporean kids whos country is basically an economic puppet among commonwealth states of the British empire to get access to Asian countries' geopolitical events.)
This was extremely unfair. They put the strongest speakers (Singaporeans as English is their first language). They had the easiest point to argue for. I understand that it was based on the lots but... the other speakers with other languages as their first language had to fight for ideas that are very hard to couch for and I think that we should all applaud lmao. From our homes because this is extremely difficult. I am from Korea but if I had to argue against native Koreans, rapping their arguments at 90 miles per hour in Hangul, I would combust right then and there.
Contradiction. (debate mode on) It doesn't make the competition fair, it makes it worst. Because the Singaporeans would find in-ear translator useless and defeats the purpose of an 'English language' debate
This is not a debate this is actually how good you are in English as a Language and how fluently you can speak it , which will ultimately think other people to give you points.
ikrr same , I was hoping for subtitles because their ideas seemed really interesting. I think this show would have been even better if the students could speak in their mother tongue and translators could translate for them because it is a bit unfair because they couldn't present all their ideas in the short time.
Both government benches did a fantastic job. I wish I was this eloquent in high school. Bravo! However, to be fair, this was a difficult motion to oppose. One argument I can think of is this: Using education as a tool to promote the concept of global citizenship over a nationalist mindset will mean restructuring the education syllabus and potentially removing access to certain parts of our culture. Taking language as an example, promoting a globalist mindset would mean that more widely-spoken languages in the world take priority over our mother tongue. For instance, if you're a Thai citizen, you might have to learn English, Mandarin, Hindi, AND Spanish in school. Although beneficial in an international context, this realistically means that less attention and emphasis will likely be given to the Thai language. Taking history as an example, promoting a globalist mindset would mean that if our history textbook remains at the same number of pages, a majority of those pages will educate students on international history. It will teach us the biggest and deadliest wars, the most influential dictators, the most prominent treaties and agreements. It sounds fantastic, but if everyone (regardless of nationality) only knows about the 'important' parts of history, who will remember the 'smaller' parts of history? This isn't to say that those knowledge are mutually exclusive. However, everything comes at a cost. Including new parts into a syllabus means replacing existing parts. Ideally, we would love to learn as much about the world as possible. Realistically, however, one cannot expect students to take on 20 subjects if they had previously been only taking 10.
If it’s really a intelligent school debate, then english should ignored (since content is more important for solving these problems, think again many wars started because content lost in translation).
Singapore team is dang good as expected(firstly their official language is English and Singapore is a big cosmopolitan/multicultural nation so globalisation is a pretty big and important topic there) Korea team is well done as well I’m not familiar with their education system but they know what they are talking about👍
Do you think its coincidence that Japanese and Chinese teams got to defend Nationalism vs Globalization and they both don’t speak English as well as their opponents? :D
@@meowmeowyoongi8403 I liked the points they considered in favour of globalisation ...I also liked the points South Korean team considered ... It was rational n balanced ... I respect hardwork of every participant ... Its not about language its about content... Overall a great effort ...
homo sapien33 they knew what they were talking bcs they speak english. You can see others wanted to speak a lot too but they were struggling in explaining what they actually wanted to share/say. Actually, language is important ofc. Singapore can speak whats in their mind clearly, ofc bcs they are fluent in english:)
You guys said that the reason why the opposite group didn't have a big support was because they don't have english as a mother language, but I still think that's not a big factor in the debate. I sought a lot of these, and I see that people who have a good argument can change peoples mind even if there is an accent
The quote "When all think alike, then no one is thinking" is not from Einstein but from Walter Lippman. Einstein must be rolling in his grave right now from all the erroneous quotes credited to his name.
I think it's so hard to get a fair assessment in terms of audience agreement here because I feel like the majority of people nowadays have a globally-oriented mindset and everyone brings their own implicit biases with them even when they try not to. That's not to take away from team Korea or team Singapore, but I think it was much harder to argue a pro-nationalist opposition and have the audience agree with you, language barrier aside.
how a debate works is you're given a motion and a side, opposition and proposition. a motion can be presented one-sided or neutral statement - that's how it is. however, for any motion there will always be two sides e.g. agree/disagree for a one-sided statement, both sides will have limitations and different perspectives. whether you're able to deliver enough points and/or examples is dependent on your skill, general or relevant knowledge and mentality (confident, anxious etc) during the debate. there's nothing unfair about it.
I personally think the entire debate was somewhat a big disadvantage against the opposition considering that they're not really fluent in speaking English. If you let a fluent English speaker debate against a non-English speaker, for sure most people would probably prefer the English speaker because obviously English is the universal language, and. Maybe if the opposition party had more fluent speakers, people would understand their position very well.
And am I the only one who think the argument of Japanese team has a flaw? The 2nd speaker claimed that school education should provide students with their own choice for what to learn and should not force them to learn what the government or politicians want. But then, it violates their argument as well, because Japanese team was for the education of nationalism, not for individual's right, so that it is way far from the team's initial point of argument. So, at the point i heard his argument, i wondered what i was hearing. But even the judges doesn't seem to have recognized it.. how weird it is...
Yep once you're in the opposition you can change your motion as long as it still follows that you are against the og motion. And as a government you can just change how you define the motion to put it in your favor.
I feel debates should have translator earpiece that every person could wear. So that the debater can speak in their native language. They do this in the united nation, when they allow different countries to speak. This way it is more authentic and easy for them to debate.
Seriously. I've been binge watching these. I love seeing students debating over world problems. Makes me believe that we can change the world our older generations messed up :)
I feel like even though Government did a great job, Japan had some pretty good points too. It was just not coherent enough, so if they’d been speaking in Japanese it would’ve been a bit fairer.
@@vskys3910 I don't know if there's a rule to speech 5 min, Because from my experience and also debate competition that I had watch each speaker have 7:20 to speech. Let's see wudc that use British parliamentary and each speaker have 7:20 to speech. So if there's a rule to speech 5min , I just know it by Arirang 😂
Everybody's talking about the Singaporeans, but don't forget the Korean girls, English is not their native language and they nailed it. I don't know how is the process of participation of the schools on the show, but if their English pronunciation is not clear, they shouldn't participate, unfortunately. The opposition might had really good arguments, but was really hard to understand what they said (again, unfortunately).
Opposition ( china and Japan) had valid real world points,IT WAS BLOODY LANGUAGE THAT WAS THE PROBLEM, Singaporean one was very utopian approach tho no hate. Kudos to the young minds from🇮🇳
nationalism can win easily if they keep asking gov what is mechanism of implementation to avoid certain country from losing their national identity if school teach globalism instead of nationalism. Moreover, about solving world problems, if individual understand well enough how global trade works people will against terrorism, understand well enough abt climate change people will donate to combat climate change. and if people have strong love to their country, refuges issue will not exist at the first place. Nationalism is more important to be taught at school, so that students will contribute to their country and solve local issues, (pollution, poverty, harmony and political stability). If each citizen take care of their country, global problems will not exist. Ohh yaa abt skin color, is a job of that country to tell their citizen that citizenship is not based on skin color. -love from Malaysia
"if citizen take care of their country, global problem wouldn't exist" Well, wait until USA and Russia make a move! I think it easier to give an argument at the government side because the inexorical advance that we called as civilization is moving slightly fast, globalisation is affecting significant role, the world apparently become more connected so people understand each other better, because of social media and internet people could see the other side of a world easily, government could give a command and make a move just by foreshadowing the circumstances from screen, conscious or unconscious we are doing everything indeed pretty close to remotely, globalisation is important sincerely the digital currency such as crypto currency is more easier to convert (and more fair) If the world has only one currency (I know there is a lot of counter argument about 'only one currency'), and apparently we can dispersed misunderstood if we understand what every person said(the solution would be: every people understand one global language, and in order to reach that point we must teach globalisation in school). I'm not telling you to abandon your local language but because of globalisation its very important to learn global language that majority of people conceive! And who knows probably in the future there is gonna be one country, erased the border across the land; and form only one country at this terrestrial, and that country name is earth
@@muhammadridho7680 " its very important to learn global language that majority of people conceive! " so what sort of global language do you imply? also, what kind of majority of people do conceive this? how can we define if someone is considered as either majority or minority?
@@gunchimisakhdono7632 Do some research on how many countries in Africa have English as a national language actually, and it doesn't correlate that one language could make a country great
I think when they try to speak or explain something they start panicking and talk very fast........ I understand that but they should honestly work on calming themselves down because others will not hear what they're saying, they should work on that nervousness
Citizenship is a legal concept. Citizenship is granted by a government. There is no World govt so there cannot be any World citizenship. Think of the world as a neighborhood with many homes. You live in one home with your family. Similarly, the planet consists of many homes or countries. You can care about the whole neighborhood but will always be the owner of your own home where you live with your family. It's the same with your country as well.
The second korean girl was too good. I understandood everything she said so calmly,clearly to the point without shouting rapping or yelling fancy words
There was no criticism about China in the whole debate- protectionism and nationalism were only debated from US or Brexit pov. - That's how you know children are slave to a particular perspective while learning about broader world scenarios.
Tbh, opposition team is already in a huge disadvantage, since their argument (despite all the reasoning) is not so valid in the modern world we now live in. And their poor command of English puts them in an even more disadvantaged position. I don’t know a lot about debating. I believe it’s about you making points and justify them in various ways to persuade the audience. But without basic command of a language, it is very hard to make your speech clear and easy to for the audience to comprehend in the first place. Also, not to mention that debates are very responsive and have time constraint.
Basically the Japanese debaters were avoiding Singaporean debaters' questions lol.However, Singaporean and Korean debaters were lucky and it was an advantage for them by representing in the opening and closing government.
Park Jin-ha from team Korea was the most impressive of all. To me, she actually brings the team to a wonderful win. Because the first girl from Korea was actually confusing me due to the lack of order to present the arguments. Before Park Jin-ha came, I thought that Singaporeans will win but after her debate, I was sure that Koreans will win.
Am I the only one who only can exactly understand what Singaporean and Korean teams said, but not Chinese and Japanese teams? And is that possibly because I am Korean? Pure curiosity! As watching this video, I became afraid I'm not gonna be able to communicate with Chinese and Japanese. It was so hard to comprehend what they were saying.. and I am seriously curious that might be because I am Korean, so it is not hard for me to understand Korean's English, who have the same origin with me, and Singaporean's, whose 1st language is English. Looking forward to your opinions!!
최지인 we have different accent & different language, thats why. Dont make other people look bad because they cant speak english they way you want, why everyone should be like you? I mean japanese and chinese maybe dont want to speak with u too
I’m Korean American (born and raised in a english speaking environment) and honestly there was a bunch of words that I couldn’t comprehend from the Chinese and Japanese team, so it’s more likely that their origins don’t really have to do with you not understanding them.
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The Japanese and Chinese debaters find it difficult to argue and defend their points not because they have weak arguments but because of the language which they haven't mastered to use yet.. Good fight though!!
well why sign up in the 1st place
@@dyfrigshandy Perhaps, they wanted to see if they could communicate in English better.
jay jay They shouldn’t have signed up if they haven’t mastered the language.
@@Andioooop come on as a britt i would say the best way to learn or master english is to communicate and talk to people !! and i think there english is pretty good considering they are from a country where englsh is not used that much
@@Andioooop That's not exactly logical. If I'm disabled, it doesn't mean I shouldn't have a shot at life. Just because their English isn't as affluent doesn't mean signing up isn't worth it.
Hope that debaters from other asian countries like india, philippines, indonesia, malaysia,etc will be given a chance to join this competition
the chance exist we just cannot compete
@@werren894 true
Yeah i wanna join too
@@werren894 Sorry I think other Asian countries as mentioned have more than enough capability to compete. It's just a fact of exposure of this competition and choice of involvement. Just a kind thought.
@vital views What crap is that. Indians don't have to prove their competence, look at the global corporate leaders and you will be able to come out of your cave to see where the world is moving.
I think singapore team has a huge advantage with English as their first language..
Yeah 😂😂😂
Sarah h Completely disagrees.. English is not an issue but the way you prepare for debate. Its better to simply deliver your ideas what ever accent you have as far as its being presented calmly without chewing the words!!
Nope. It's not their first language.
@@christopherjayjunio7444 It is. Singaporean here.
Sarah h not they first language
Singaporeans people are Chines/ Malay / India
I'm Singaporean and incredibly proud of our team, but the Koreans were absolutely impressive here and deserved their win :)
You just showed nationalism which was against their argument, while trying to complement them at the same time. I find that funny😊 I know this is real late.
Feeling proud of Singaporean team because he is Singaporean, is national pride. National pride does not equates to nationalism. I love my country does not means I hate another country.
@@nizzismith5545 THAT IS NOT NATIONALISM. you have no idea what nationalism is it really is. because you’re happy for someone from the same country is not what nationalism is, nationalism is where you feel as your country is better than others and that you are more than other people from different countries. What you’re talking about is patriotism, patriotism is being prideful for the country that you live in, it does not mean you think of people less than. so next time you want to comment an incorrect comment. think.
The second speaker of Singapore is freaken explosive (literally) :3
I like her confidence
shes expressive, explosive no
UA-cam is My addiction agreed
Indian Genes
She can speak rapid english but not all her stand are in line with the subject while the Japanese arguments were good only he finds it hard to speak English fluently.
I think if Japanese students are able to speak English fluently, they would win because their information was quite good for me.
I disagree. Nationalism can’t win because we are already moving to globalization.
@@phlow9417 in dirty way of course, ppl didn't like details about the problem in this planet and human just being optimistic that globalization would cure it/solving the issues which lead to cancer, it destroys america.
Deez Nut how does globalization destroy America?
@@phlow9417 not globalization i mean global citizen, bcoz it uses the same concept, America state is a concept like global citizen so America doesn't exist in the first place just a concept and system by design, America is like the "guinea pig" of the future because the elites is not actually indigenous it is win by the war and everybody mix and culture plot like middle east back then and it destroys them, global citizen needs to be carefully discussed and addressed properly because culture plot would happen and destroying identity or being ignorant is not right, war is easy for mental revolution but it's wrong for civilized ppl, unless if u a refugee u won't understand.
Deez Nut wait so having different cultures in a state is bad? How so?
It's hard to believe that they are a bunch of high-school students
Agreed their debates are too easy
@@schadenfreudeegoism7485 not for everyone... There are schools with students who can't even discuss an easy topic or use all the formal words
@@schadenfreudeegoism7485 yes
This is so wrong. Debating is mostly about word playing and manipulating. Native English speakers will have overwhelming advantages over ESL speakers that’s not fair in a competition.
骑士黑暗 Huh?
although i dont think singaporeans are native english speakers, but they do have english as their main language. and therefore have an advantage over their asian counterparts.
yet in fact, south korean win the debate. i think it's also unfair if the judges are mostly korean.
"This is so wrong."
Not really. They knew what they were signing for.
I'll even say that they wouldn't be able to debate in any other language.
@@audyw4411 Everything in Singapore is in english from education to traffic signs, They have english as one of their official language. So if they grew up and were educated with english therefore it's their native languages at least one of them
the debaters from japan tells me that english doesnt really matter in making a country a great country. woa.
Well, that is not entirely false. Look at Japan, South Korea and China right now. Most of theit population don't speak english well, but they were able to rival western powerhouse in terms of economic performance.
what does the language English have to do with making a great country? this comment does not make a one bit of sense
Obviously sarcasm is not a international language. LOL
@YourМилк I totally agree
l do agree with them
The first speaker must have scored pretty well for social studies since she basically reiterated everything in the 3rd issue (Globalization) of the textbook for some of her points
lmaoooo
Then it means the textbooks are good
Exactly. its propaganda. It comes from the top -down. It is not a naturally occuring idea, although some factors leading to globalization are... not to the extent that the propaganda proposes
Just listening this for my N levels this year. Any globalisation news videos you've got??
O levels who? I only know a debate show, instead of breaking my wrist and trying to write as much as I can like my life depends on it-
the way how the japanese girl refuse, "sorry no thank you" is so cute.
37:02
And the other one 37:29
Anime 😍😍
kawaii
she was so polite with it, i refuse POIs just by waving my hand and shaking my head pls T-T
I love how the second korean girl at the closing government said that,(@ 42:38) although korea has anti sentiment towards japan she herself still loves them.😍 Ohh best girl in the debate
Me too
Yeah it was super sweet
But they showed china instead of Japan???
it was a luck of Singaporean students, for they got opening government in this debate since their country is a global one where many people with different cultures live there and their mother language is English. They explained their reasons well.
As an Indonesian, I also agree to be a global citizen, so people can accept others easily as they used to do. In my opinion, becoming a global citizen surely makes people not become racist more, although not all people who have a great feel of nationalism are racist.
Ikr the more global countries like Singapore and Korea got the side for global citizens and the More nationalistic countries like China and Japan got the side for nationalism. But a Singaporean's mother language is not English, but their schooling is in English and most of them are more proficient in English than their mother tongues
I love how even though some students are not fluent in English they are giving it their best I wish I had such opportunities while growing up 😢
same since I was a child I like debating even if it is just a class activity :( I hope I would have a chance in the future
CHRISTIANA THOMAS YOU ARE VERY GOOD SPEAKER
Yes ,she speaks and point out her vision so clearly
This was such a easy topic for the proposing team to win because the world is on the way to globalization. I wonder what would have happened if the winners played the opposing team.
@pegan farm "islamization" ? Do you really think that people enter Islam forcibly ? if you think so , then you know nothing about islam , i suggest you to get to know islam before talking about some world war 3 or losing identity non sense , apparently you have no answers why islam is the most fastest growing religion in the world?
@pegan farm I'm shocked by your claims . with all due respect : 1 - Islam spreads through the message of peace no one is forcing anyone to accept it 2 - I'm talking about CONVERTED people besides non initially born Muslims 3 - again , you seem through your comment holding a grudge against Islam. why ? I don't know maybe you believe and consume everything the media says . .. Seriously what's there hurtful searching up info about Islam ? Read all the religious books then compare them . then you get why people convert to Islam .
@@ktp0294 I absolutely respect your opinion . in fact it's rightfully justified but those people you're talking about aren't Muslims . Islam prohibits any act of violence or aggression towards innocent peaceful people . Yes violence is authorized in some cases like defending own homes or even responding if necessary in case of any exterior aggression. Hence those people you're are bringing into this discussion are not civilized and 100% defying the teachings of Islam. Even true Muslims are stating this , it's unseen to the majority of the globe because the media is politically biased and spreads misinformation at any given moment . But over all the majority of Muslims don't blow themselves like it's some kind of good doing.
pegan farm I don’t agree with you, but those are some good arguments if you were to play a part in this debate
No. It is the opposite.
It doesn't matter if you're fluent in speaking English. I believe that japanese and chinese students have good point of view.
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL HOW FITTING ARE THE COUNTRIES AND THE SIDES OF THE MOTION IM WHEEZING
Seriously, too real man 💀💀 too real.
Students arguing against this motion clearly had a hard time providing coherent and effective argument against the motion not only because they seem to lack necessary language skills and confidence but also because they don't believe in what they are arguing against. Evidently, these students are taught to skillfully repeat talking points and not to think for themselves or even attempt to genuinely highlight differences between nationalism and globalism. They are trained to misrepresent and vilify what is considered to be politically incorrect or even mildly unorthodox. Thinking they are in the forefront of understanding and awareness unwittingly they help to perpetuate a new kind of dogma.
That’s why the topics should be more open, although I loved this topic. Would have loved to see the opposite team argue for globalisation.
Singapore is truly a global country, we can't disagree on that. We welcome different types of people here. Hence, im proud Singaporean
you welcome different type of people who are DESERVING, immigrants moving in forcefully is a different problem
even Singapore does not allow that, and this is the main problem USA and European countries are facing.
there is a big difference.
imagine them coming in, not following the law and crying humanity when forced to follow the rules people already following.
globalist country sure u are, but doesn't mean that it is right.
and plus, singapore only accept rich immigrants. i doubt singapore will accept poor malaysians in for example.
LOL, Singapore have one of the most strict Law in the world, Singapore is just a city/state, much easier to monitor people,
it's a city state
You get 42 of 50 lights.
Man, this basically went as expected since the current international trend is geared towards globalization. It would've been more interesting if the opposing side won, but their stand is pretty difficult to defend.
I agree. When all the debaters and the whole audience STARTS from the viewpoints of:
- Trump is evil
- man made global warming is a given
- globalization is better than nationalism
...... the end result of the voting can be easily predicted.
in conclusion, the host is pretty af
Wowy 😃
Ya whts her name?
Pretty, but a generic plastic surgery looking face
she looks like Naeun from Apink
@@mrnarason nahh...if she did plastic surgery...she would have done her nose....
Singapore and Korea team were impressive to me. It doesnt mean I choose Korea because I am Korean. They organized and prepared what they have an opinion of the topic well. Language might be hard for the others. I think they are also able to do that same way as those students I mentioned if they use their own language. The most important thing that we should know is they are young but they can speak out about the global issues using another language! We better clap for them, not judging.
Agree
👍
I refuse to clap to someone who is an ideologically possessed demon spouting one-sided political doctrine which I disagree for several reasons like incomprehensible speech due to multiple strings of contradiction and manipulation which can result to subtle mentality corruption because of weak/pathetic political perception towards the unpredictable world of deception (especially from the Singaporean kids whos country is basically an economic puppet among commonwealth states of the British empire to get access to Asian countries' geopolitical events.)
Chinese boy is so amazed with the first speaker of Korea 😂😂
This was extremely unfair. They put the strongest speakers (Singaporeans as English is their first language). They had the easiest point to argue for. I understand that it was based on the lots but... the other speakers with other languages as their first language had to fight for ideas that are very hard to couch for and I think that we should all applaud lmao. From our homes because this is extremely difficult. I am from Korea but if I had to argue against native Koreans, rapping their arguments at 90 miles per hour in Hangul, I would combust right then and there.
Well if u don't know Korea's first language isn't english either but they delivered their points very nicely
their school choose them knowing their english level so its not the other country's fault, really !!
This debate is so educational,interesting,informative. I just hope children can learn from this.This what you call intelligence.
Nationalism is more to do with psychology and culture. It's a feeling and faith of belonging.
Chinese and japanese had a point.
Good argument
they should give in-ear translators so everyone can speak the language they are the most comfortable in to make it fair
That defeats the entire point of the competition 😂
That's not how an international debate happens
Contradiction. (debate mode on) It doesn't make the competition fair, it makes it worst. Because the Singaporeans would find in-ear translator useless and defeats the purpose of an 'English language' debate
The topic was so advantageous to the opening govt than the oposition. The opposition had good points but their accents were very heavy. I enjoyed it👍💫
Punctuation who?
This is not a debate this is actually how good you are in English as a Language and how fluently you can speak it , which will ultimately think other people to give you points.
I was struggling to understand Japanese and Chinese debaters
english is not their first language
Soo true....
I didn't struggle with Chinese members though I'm a Japanese 😂
They speak pretty clearly to me 😊 I don't have trouble with accents 😊
ikrr same , I was hoping for subtitles because their ideas seemed really interesting. I think this show would have been even better if the students could speak in their mother tongue and translators could translate for them because it is a bit unfair because they couldn't present all their ideas in the short time.
The Prime minister and Deputy prime minister really knew how to put forth their argument! Very well done!!
Both government benches did a fantastic job. I wish I was this eloquent in high school. Bravo!
However, to be fair, this was a difficult motion to oppose. One argument I can think of is this: Using education as a tool to promote the concept of global citizenship over a nationalist mindset will mean restructuring the education syllabus and potentially removing access to certain parts of our culture.
Taking language as an example, promoting a globalist mindset would mean that more widely-spoken languages in the world take priority over our mother tongue. For instance, if you're a Thai citizen, you might have to learn English, Mandarin, Hindi, AND Spanish in school. Although beneficial in an international context, this realistically means that less attention and emphasis will likely be given to the Thai language.
Taking history as an example, promoting a globalist mindset would mean that if our history textbook remains at the same number of pages, a majority of those pages will educate students on international history. It will teach us the biggest and deadliest wars, the most influential dictators, the most prominent treaties and agreements. It sounds fantastic, but if everyone (regardless of nationality) only knows about the 'important' parts of history, who will remember the 'smaller' parts of history?
This isn't to say that those knowledge are mutually exclusive. However, everything comes at a cost. Including new parts into a syllabus means replacing existing parts.
Ideally, we would love to learn as much about the world as possible. Realistically, however, one cannot expect students to take on 20 subjects if they had previously been only taking 10.
If it’s really a intelligent school debate, then english should ignored (since content is more important for solving these problems, think again many wars started because content lost in translation).
Singapore team is dang good as expected(firstly their official language is English and Singapore is a big cosmopolitan/multicultural nation so globalisation is a pretty big and important topic there)
Korea team is well done as well I’m not familiar with their education system but they know what they are talking about👍
That lady moderator is everything.❤
I have the feeling that the nationalism team had it harder because of the language
3:00 The British guy clapping for himself..... LOL
Its self love and self appreciation.
😂😂
I know right 😂😂😅
That was cute though
I came down to the comment section to see if anyone commented on that and here it is. 😅 self appreciation is cool. Claps 🙌
Do you think its coincidence that Japanese and Chinese teams got to defend Nationalism vs Globalization and they both don’t speak English as well as their opponents? :D
I'm wondering what would this debate become if ever Filipinos are one of the participants.
Jay Jay yeah same
It will be.
Yassss
IMONG MAMA GOVERNMENT
You’d be surprised, Filipino debaters are very articulate
Thank you for sharing your experience.
Love from Nepal 🇳🇵
I think the opposition not being fluent and their heavy accent hinders in getting their points across to the audience.
Singapore was impressive ...
@@meowmeowyoongi8403 I liked the points they considered in favour of globalisation ...I also liked the points South Korean team considered ... It was rational n balanced ... I respect hardwork of every participant ... Its not about language its about content... Overall a great effort ...
homo sapien33 they knew what they were talking bcs they speak english. You can see others wanted to speak a lot too but they were struggling in explaining what they actually wanted to share/say. Actually, language is important ofc. Singapore can speak whats in their mind clearly, ofc bcs they are fluent in english:)
Basically the topic is very much in favor of the opening teams period....
اللهم ان كان اسمي في السعداء فأثبته فيهم وان كان في الأشقياء فامحه عنهم واجعله في السعداء اللهم آمين
8:03
When you did not take a bath and trying to smell yourself to check if the smell is noticeably 😂😂😂😂😂😂🤦🤦
please let them debate switch with their opposing sides, let's see if its still gna be the same
🙌🏾This platform is so inspiring. I loved this
Unfortunately these kids haven't experienced hunger .
They are not ready yet
You guys said that the reason why the opposite group didn't have a big support was because they don't have english as a mother language, but I still think that's not a big factor in the debate. I sought a lot of these, and I see that people who have a good argument can change peoples mind even if there is an accent
The way someone speak and behave really affect and it can impress listeners more than contents
The quote "When all think alike, then no one is thinking" is not from Einstein but from Walter Lippman. Einstein must be rolling in his grave right now from all the erroneous quotes credited to his name.
Lollllllllllll
I think the motion was one sided. My sympathy to the opposition trying to put up their case.
I think it's so hard to get a fair assessment in terms of audience agreement here because I feel like the majority of people nowadays have a globally-oriented mindset and everyone brings their own implicit biases with them even when they try not to. That's not to take away from team Korea or team Singapore, but I think it was much harder to argue a pro-nationalist opposition and have the audience agree with you, language barrier aside.
The Singaporean group had so many points for their argument, deserving more points than they got. This competition seems bias and selective.
how a debate works is you're given a motion and a side, opposition and proposition. a motion can be presented one-sided or neutral statement - that's how it is. however, for any motion there will always be two sides e.g. agree/disagree for a one-sided statement, both sides will have limitations and different perspectives. whether you're able to deliver enough points and/or examples is dependent on your skill, general or relevant knowledge and mentality (confident, anxious etc) during the debate. there's nothing unfair about it.
Education is Etiquette and it helps People to bypass the rules of basic sociological functioning to produce better and better states of being
I personally think the entire debate was somewhat a big disadvantage against the opposition considering that they're not really fluent in speaking English. If you let a fluent English speaker debate against a non-English speaker, for sure most people would probably prefer the English speaker because obviously English is the universal language, and. Maybe if the opposition party had more fluent speakers, people would understand their position very well.
And am I the only one who think the argument of Japanese team has a flaw? The 2nd speaker claimed that school education should provide students with their own choice for what to learn and should not force them to learn what the government or politicians want. But then, it violates their argument as well, because Japanese team was for the education of nationalism, not for individual's right, so that it is way far from the team's initial point of argument. So, at the point i heard his argument, i wondered what i was hearing. But even the judges doesn't seem to have recognized it.. how weird it is...
No. They only simply oppose the motion.... It does not mean they support the opposite motion.
Yep once you're in the opposition you can change your motion as long as it still follows that you are against the og motion.
And as a government you can just change how you define the motion to put it in your favor.
impressive speech by cristina thomas and korea team.
Why I am thinking the moderator's voice and accent sounds like Rose 😭 I realised she looks like Rose as well :"))
she has an aussie (australian) accent
I feel debates should have translator earpiece that every person could wear. So that the debater can speak in their native language. They do this in the united nation, when they allow different countries to speak. This way it is more authentic and easy for them to debate.
Why arent channels like this on an actual tv channel. Like cbbc or something? Much more entertaining than the other rubbish
Seriously. I've been binge watching these. I love seeing students debating over world problems. Makes me believe that we can change the world our older generations messed up :)
I feel like even though Government did a great job, Japan had some pretty good points too. It was just not coherent enough, so if they’d been speaking in Japanese it would’ve been a bit fairer.
the closing government speech blurts all the point of the globalization perfectly
It says British parliamentary debate, but why each speaker just have 5 minutes speech?
rock veena bcz the rules honey. british parliamentary debate just has 5 minutes speech
@@vskys3910 but isn't the speakers supposed to speak 7:20 ? Let's see the wudc use British parliamentary and each speaker has 7:20 to speak
in my experienced, each person from opening and closing government to the opening and closing opposition have 5 mins to speech
but i could be more than 5 min, that is 15 sec (max).
@@vskys3910 I don't know if there's a rule to speech 5 min, Because from my experience and also debate competition that I had watch each speaker have 7:20 to speech. Let's see wudc that use British parliamentary and each speaker have 7:20 to speech. So if there's a rule to speech 5min , I just know it by Arirang 😂
The GURLLL Park Jin ha slayyyyyed like really i love the way she was saying and she was so amazingggg loved the she nailed it ✨
I wonder what these kids do after 10-15 years down the line
I hope that they'll invite Filipino debaters as well. I am a debater and I'm a Filipino 😊🇵🇭 Hahahaha 😂
hahahahahaa Filipino here..sana may internatiol gay debate rin😂
Yeah... Sana nga mag invite sila ng pinoy😊 para naman mas maging interesting pa ang usapan haha😅
@@fem_mia9385 Gay Debate talaga? 😂
@@luciolys5523 Para 'di maging light yung atmosphere sa venue nila. Filipinos can intensify debates.
@Delfin Sapalit But sometimes, hazards give some development. Lols! 😂
I think there should be the chance to debate in the language they are comfortable in.
People join this debate to improve their English
Can't get what the Chinese speak at first.
Listen to the Japanese.
Wow, the Chinese team's English skill is so good.
Everybody's talking about the Singaporeans, but don't forget the Korean girls, English is not their native language and they nailed it. I don't know how is the process of participation of the schools on the show, but if their English pronunciation is not clear, they shouldn't participate, unfortunately. The opposition might had really good arguments, but was really hard to understand what they said (again, unfortunately).
Opposition ( china and Japan) had valid real world points,IT WAS BLOODY LANGUAGE THAT WAS THE PROBLEM,
Singaporean one was very utopian approach tho no hate.
Kudos to the young minds from🇮🇳
nationalism can win easily if they keep asking gov what is mechanism of implementation to avoid certain country from losing their national identity if school teach globalism instead of nationalism. Moreover, about solving world problems, if individual understand well enough how global trade works people will against terrorism, understand well enough abt climate change people will donate to combat climate change. and if people have strong love to their country, refuges issue will not exist at the first place. Nationalism is more important to be taught at school, so that students will contribute to their country and solve local issues, (pollution, poverty, harmony and political stability). If each citizen take care of their country, global problems will not exist. Ohh yaa abt skin color, is a job of that country to tell their citizen that citizenship is not based on skin color.
-love from Malaysia
"if citizen take care of their country, global problem wouldn't exist"
Well, wait until USA and Russia make a move!
I think it easier to give an argument at the government side because the inexorical advance that we called as civilization is moving slightly fast, globalisation is affecting significant role, the world apparently become more connected so people understand each other better, because of social media and internet people could see the other side of a world easily, government could give a command and make a move just by foreshadowing the circumstances from screen, conscious or unconscious we are doing everything indeed pretty close to remotely, globalisation is important sincerely the digital currency such as crypto currency is more easier to convert (and more fair) If the world has only one currency (I know there is a lot of counter argument about 'only one currency'), and apparently we can dispersed misunderstood if we understand what every person said(the solution would be: every people understand one global language, and in order to reach that point we must teach globalisation in school). I'm not telling you to abandon your local language but because of globalisation its very important to learn global language that majority of people conceive! And who knows probably in the future there is gonna be one country, erased the border across the land; and form only one country at this terrestrial, and that country name is earth
@@muhammadridho7680 " its very important to learn global language that majority of people conceive! "
so what sort of global language do you imply? also, what kind of majority of people do conceive this? how can we define if someone is considered as either majority or minority?
অনেক দিন পর Arirang, it was one of my favourite TV channel. ঈসা হ্যাঁ। সমস্ত প্রশংসা আল্লাহর।
the debaters from japan show me that English doesnt really matter in making a great country. whoa.
Good governance, hardwork, education. That's the key I think. Mastering English doesn't guarantee you to be better. That's just a comdition.
because there is no common language only some African country speaks french. Japan don't need English, as everyone speaks Japanese more than English.
KK
Don't need the post the same comment twice
Dumbass
@@gunchimisakhdono7632 Do some research on how many countries in Africa have English as a national language actually, and it doesn't correlate that one language could make a country great
Very good topic. I hope someday to live in a world without borders.
They all gotta learn how to breathe first before learning to debate
DEPUTY PRIME MINISTER IS KINDA DANGEROUS!!!!!! LOOK AT HOW SHE DEFENDED THE POI FROM THE OPP. SHE IS A STAR!!!!! THUMP UP MY GIRL
Great debate . I watch the same video more than 3times a day😄
I think when they try to speak or explain something they start panicking and talk very fast........ I understand that but they should honestly work on calming themselves down because others will not hear what they're saying, they should work on that nervousness
Absent of Indian students make me little disappointment
nobody cares
@@mehbubulalam7889 shut your mouth on every comment you no life rascal
@@mehbubulalam7889 Likewise
@@shakedash367 shut up u insolent deuce
no one want to see Indians over there besides Indians.
I'm watching this to learn how to improve my performance in speech and debate they are phenomenal debaters
honestly, if everybody got rid of the "we think", or "the house thinks" the arguments would sound so much more assertive
In near future, we soon will see the debate on ''One World Order'' , "One World Leader".....
Omg ,my college student's brain hurts
Would allowing them to speak in their comfortable language give it a more smooth debate rather than trying to say the correct word in english?❤
Citizenship is a legal concept. Citizenship is granted by a government. There is no World govt so there cannot be any World citizenship. Think of the world as a neighborhood with many homes. You live in one home with your family. Similarly, the planet consists of many homes or countries. You can care about the whole neighborhood but will always be the owner of your own home where you live with your family. It's the same with your country as well.
The second korean girl was too good. I understandood everything she said so calmly,clearly to the point without shouting rapping or yelling fancy words
Hate the government interruption of opposition in annoying way not like others
There was no criticism about China in the whole debate- protectionism and nationalism were only debated from US or Brexit pov.
- That's how you know children are slave to a particular perspective while learning about broader world scenarios.
Tbh, opposition team is already in a huge disadvantage, since their argument (despite all the reasoning) is not so valid in the modern world we now live in.
And their poor command of English puts them in an even more disadvantaged position.
I don’t know a lot about debating. I believe it’s about you making points and justify them in various ways to persuade the audience.
But without basic command of a language, it is very hard to make your speech clear and easy to for the audience to comprehend in the first place.
Also, not to mention that debates are very responsive and have time constraint.
My personal, Singapore team is the best 👏👏👏
Only because of their impeccable English, I suppose
Basically the Japanese debaters were avoiding Singaporean debaters' questions lol.However, Singaporean and Korean debaters were lucky and it was an advantage for them by representing in the opening and closing government.
Park Jin-ha from team Korea was the most impressive of all. To me, she actually brings the team to a wonderful win. Because the first girl from Korea was actually confusing me due to the lack of order to present the arguments. Before Park Jin-ha came, I thought that Singaporeans will win but after her debate, I was sure that Koreans will win.
i think the 2nd student from korea is awesome and i think for the language barirer other teams didn't express well except singapore and korea
I am from Cambodia. I very much like and support your debate. It’s useful to watch
Am I the only one who only can exactly understand what Singaporean and Korean teams said, but not Chinese and Japanese teams? And is that possibly because I am Korean? Pure curiosity! As watching this video, I became afraid I'm not gonna be able to communicate with Chinese and Japanese. It was so hard to comprehend what they were saying.. and I am seriously curious that might be because I am Korean, so it is not hard for me to understand Korean's English, who have the same origin with me, and Singaporean's, whose 1st language is English.
Looking forward to your opinions!!
최지인 we have different accent & different language, thats why. Dont make other people look bad because they cant speak english they way you want, why everyone should be like you? I mean japanese and chinese maybe dont want to speak with u too
Me as not from those countries but can understand
Me from other country understand them very well.. I guess their accent are different that's why to some people they don't understand it very well.
I’m Korean American (born and raised in a english speaking environment) and honestly there was a bunch of words that I couldn’t comprehend from the Chinese and Japanese team, so it’s more likely that their origins don’t really have to do with you not understanding them.
I understand all of them
Is anyone else watching Intelligence just to listen to the host’s accent. It’s so clear and nice to listen to😂
The first Singaporean girl has a very posh nerdy look and I wish I had that :(
Singaporean.. I'm really convinced by the way u deliver