How to DESTROY Anyone in an Argument

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  • Опубліковано 16 чер 2024
  • Philosophers are often thought of as truth-seekers, but often people are more interested in the mucky world of simple debate, and there is a sardonic, sarcastic essay by Schopenhauer that can help us out here - "On the Art of Being Right". In here he compiles a series of tactics used (often highly dishonestly) to secure victory in an argument even when one is misinformed, or just downright wrong. And this is just what we will look at today, so that we can learn how to destroy anyone in an argument. And also, why we probably shouldn't
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    00:00 The Art of Being Right
    01:32 "So What You're Saying Is..."
    03:43 "What I'm Saying is..."
    06:02 Endless Questions
    09:09 Control the Metaphors
    13:05 The "Strength" of Common Sense
    15:36 Interru-
    17:14 Make Your Opponent Angry
    19:04 Toss a Word Salad
    21:14 Miscellaneous Pointers
    23:18 The Lessons of Deceit

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  • @unsolicitedadvice9198
    @unsolicitedadvice9198  Місяць тому +412

    To clarify - this video is sarcastic - these techniques are dishonest.
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    • @Hydra27real
      @Hydra27real Місяць тому

      No replied

    • @technoblademc7233
      @technoblademc7233 Місяць тому +2

      Like if ur not gay 👇

    • @jamesrichardson1684
      @jamesrichardson1684 Місяць тому +6

      You should make a video that tells people how to combat logical fallacies like this

    • @Baconzilla01
      @Baconzilla01 29 днів тому +3

      Soooo should I send this to my debate team?

    • @TypicalOven
      @TypicalOven 26 днів тому

      What if they're a discord packer

  • @fabbrimichele3696
    @fabbrimichele3696 Місяць тому +7269

    what if they have a knife

  • @Filosofos1
    @Filosofos1 Місяць тому +4830

    People who use this win arguments: 🤓
    People who use this to recognize disingenuous debating tactics and avoid using them themselves: 🗿

  • @gasteralfrondes2364
    @gasteralfrondes2364 Місяць тому +1600

    politicians learns from bro 💀

    • @sesaarinen
      @sesaarinen Місяць тому +47

      They wouldn't be there if they didn't knew the tricks. This is all pretty standard, but he presented it all in a very entertaining manner. Kudos to him!

    • @Immdumb
      @Immdumb Місяць тому +5

      ​@@sesaarinen you missed the joke

    • @sangitaboruah1470
      @sangitaboruah1470 Місяць тому

      ​@@sesaarinenhe didn't understand the joke😂😂😂

    • @sesaarinen
      @sesaarinen Місяць тому

      @@Immdumb Apparently yeah 🤣🤣 what was it?

    • @xSakuraStrawberryx
      @xSakuraStrawberryx Місяць тому +2

      @sesaarinen haha, no worries you're good. The joke was that, this youtuber, 'Unsolicited Advice' is very smart about winning debates, hence this comment is saying politicians get all their tricks from this youtuber.
      Have a good one!

  • @pork5877
    @pork5877 Місяць тому +3629

    Thank you for this. My grandma wont stand a chance

    • @troyop2790
      @troyop2790 Місяць тому +121

      Go get em tiger!

    • @arnanthachai5427
      @arnanthachai5427 Місяць тому +33

      You may win in debate but if there is a winner also there is a person who seeks for rematch(in violence)

    • @TheBleachDemon
      @TheBleachDemon Місяць тому +42

      Its all fun and games until she pulls out the slipper

    • @StarryxBu77erfly
      @StarryxBu77erfly Місяць тому +17

      U may win against her but the chancla won't stay still

    • @Zipxa_Raya142
      @Zipxa_Raya142 Місяць тому +4

      same

  • @XanderVJ
    @XanderVJ Місяць тому +1613

    "Let's learn how to destroy people with facts and logic... without using either".
    That has to be the ultimate UA-cam video hook of all time.

    • @Hydrax_Real
      @Hydrax_Real Місяць тому +4

      Frfr if u use logic then your argument = non yapping

    • @ketchup4471
      @ketchup4471 Місяць тому +5

      What if nobody else understands your logic? Then you still appear as the fool

    • @mehmetcagrdogan2753
      @mehmetcagrdogan2753 21 день тому +4

      ​@@ketchup4471then you become a trrorist

    • @GeedeeGD
      @GeedeeGD 20 днів тому +1

      Yeah this is must be UA-cam how to!

    • @bryanmagdaleno
      @bryanmagdaleno 18 днів тому

      ​@@mehmetcagrdogan2753 In that case, nobody can keep me from yelling b*mb in a crowd anymore 😈

  • @nunote2362
    @nunote2362 Місяць тому +720

    This is why I dislike public debates, as they seem to always be doing these kinds of things. It's never about finding some kind of truth, it's to thrash your opponent and fool the audience into "your truth".

    • @TWIlktitbliktvim-ty7td
      @TWIlktitbliktvim-ty7td Місяць тому +1

      why is it just about public debates why not debates in general ? why not with words in general ?

    • @nunote2362
      @nunote2362 Місяць тому +54

      @@TWIlktitbliktvim-ty7td because of I'm having a discussion with a friend, there's no audience that we're trying to convince we're right to. A lot of these tactics are meant to steamroll your opponent, and have the audience think you're right, not actually convince the second party of anything. So these tactics are a lot more prevalent when there's an audience to convince.
      And just, if you're watching a debate, it's a public debate, if it was a private debate, you wouldn't be seeing it. The aforementioned discussion with a friend would be private, but if it was recorded and made public, then it's public.

    • @LuckyAngel_girl
      @LuckyAngel_girl Місяць тому +4

      @@nunote2362 damn that was a good reply

    • @Vinos-yt
      @Vinos-yt Місяць тому

      @@nunote2362 Than you can convince your friend using these tricks and making your friend the "audience"

    • @nunote2362
      @nunote2362 Місяць тому +11

      @@Vinos-yt that doesn't work, because these tactics are quite offensive to the second party. You will not be convincing anyone by asking them pointless questions and not letting them answer, or refusing to listen to their answers.
      That like saying I'll convince them by plugging my ears and yelling loudly. That's just not how these tactics work, and to say so shows a, frankly staggering lack of understanding of their functionality.
      See at the end there I used the idea of using larger words to sound smarter and more official, and some people reading may have agreed with me on just that, but all it would've done was make out conversation confrontational, and never would've convinced you. Rather it would make your dog your heels in harder because it's condescending.
      These strategies are not to convince your opponent, and they never will. They are strictly to make you look like you won to a third party, by shutting down your oppositions ability to make any point that doesn't serve you. If that's how you talk with your friends, then you probably won't have them for long.

  • @emmalynwashere
    @emmalynwashere Місяць тому +670

    the video title should be How to gaslight and get away with it

    • @evanwillett1635
      @evanwillett1635 Місяць тому +9

      fr. I want a video on how to fight against somebody using these tactics. It pisses me off when people win arguments without any actual evidence and instead just berate you until you succede.

    • @rulesmash7990
      @rulesmash7990 Місяць тому +5

      ​@@evanwillett1635 that's basically how many arguments work buddy just get over it and focus on something else productive

    • @squeakermcgee
      @squeakermcgee Місяць тому

      frfr

  • @Jaeger_Bishop
    @Jaeger_Bishop Місяць тому +1594

    Basically, this guy could title the video, "Lying Congressional Style", and be right on the mark.

    • @unsolicitedadvice9198
      @unsolicitedadvice9198  Місяць тому +380

      The backup title for this video was "the art of dishonesty" but I thought it was a bit abstract

    • @morowenidi4621
      @morowenidi4621 Місяць тому +40

      I honestly felt a bit misled by current title. Usually just telling true statements wins anything, you dont really need much else. "The art of dishonesty" feels better.

    • @Jaeger_Bishop
      @Jaeger_Bishop Місяць тому

      @@morowenidi4621 If true statements won every argument, the various crises within the U.S would have been delt with, instead of sending money to fight foreign wars....one of which is already lost but no one wants to admit.

    • @rights_are_god_given
      @rights_are_god_given Місяць тому +26

      ​@@unsolicitedadvice9198A Politicians guide to versions of truth.

    • @MarkTutorials1
      @MarkTutorials1 Місяць тому +15

      ​@@morowenidi4621 a proverb in my country goes like "a brilliant lie is better than unorganized truth"

  • @copykatninja
    @copykatninja Місяць тому +318

    My brain went straight to: "I'm dishonest, and a dishonest man you can always trust to be dishonest. Honestly. It's the honest ones you want to watch out for, because you can never predict when they're going to do something incredibly... stupid," (Captain Jack Sparrow).

  • @TheRealCaptainGold
    @TheRealCaptainGold Місяць тому +256

    1. Form a strong argument (the hard part). Understand burden of proof.
    2. Memorize all fallacies.
    3. Point out any fallacies used by opponent.
    4. Focus the conversation; don’t let them divert to another topic. Call them out when they’re being disingenuous. Put them on the spot.
    Follow those steps and your opponent is forced to argue on merit. Sprinkle some charisma and theatrics, and you won’t have any issues. Persuasion Tactics don’t work when someone not only knows them but also has the better argument. It’s why no amount of cheap tricks will get a flat earther to win a debate. 😉

    • @ukkisragee9983
      @ukkisragee9983 Місяць тому +9

      You forget that these people never lose arguments either. They can always just invent a reason for being correct or decide that you're stupid for not understanding their arguments no matter how vague or filled with holes they are.

    • @TheRealCaptainGold
      @TheRealCaptainGold Місяць тому +1

      @@ukkisragee9983
      Moving the goalposts, semantic fallacies, ad hoc explanations, vagueness, etc. all fallacies you can easily point to and call out, thus placing these people on the defense.

    • @kylezdancewicz7346
      @kylezdancewicz7346 Місяць тому +2

      @@TheRealCaptainGoldWell actually you like zombie apocalypses which means your a geek, which means your argument is invalid… (some internet user probably)

    • @TheRealCaptainGold
      @TheRealCaptainGold Місяць тому

      @@kylezdancewicz7346
      Oh yeah? Well, prove that you aren’t a geek. 🤓 Until then, you too are a geek and hence your argument is also invalid. 👌🏻😂

    • @kylezdancewicz7346
      @kylezdancewicz7346 Місяць тому

      @@TheRealCaptainGold Well since your a geek that counter argument is invalid.

  • @BardovBacchus
    @BardovBacchus Місяць тому +456

    "An argument isn't just contradiction." -
    "Can be" -
    "An argument is a collection of statements to establish a definite proposition. " -
    "No it isn't." -
    "Yes it is! It isn't just contradiction." -
    "Look, if I'm going to argue with you, I must take up a contrary position." -
    "But, it isn't just saying, 'No, it isn't'." -
    "Yes, it is." -
    "No! It isn't!"

    • @unsolicitedadvice9198
      @unsolicitedadvice9198  Місяць тому +139

      "If you want me to go on arguing, you'll have to pay for another 5 minutes"

    • @BardovBacchus
      @BardovBacchus Місяць тому +22

      "I don't want to argue about that." @@unsolicitedadvice9198

    • @vixendagreece
      @vixendagreece Місяць тому +23

      Monty Python, my beloved
      It seems that arguments are both capable of overwhelming genius
      And outright comedic idiocy
      But one thing’s for sure, they forever will remain entertaining

    • @NotMadeOfManitobaFlour
      @NotMadeOfManitobaFlour Місяць тому +2

      @@vixendagreece Ni!

    • @grapenut6094
      @grapenut6094 Місяць тому +2

      ​@@NotMadeOfManitobaFlour We want.. A shrubbery.

  • @waftsofpetrichor
    @waftsofpetrichor Місяць тому +386

    People need to realise that debates are not about winning, they’re about learning.
    Edit: People in the replies have made me realise that it actually depends on the situation, and that's true. In court, for example, it is about winning. Thank you for correcting me. :)

    • @minhtrietquach1519
      @minhtrietquach1519 Місяць тому +12

      What? Can you explain more of this to me?
      I kinda understand debate is not to win but understand huh. Maybe understand the other person's perspective perhaps? And learn from it?

    • @abdulwasay9231
      @abdulwasay9231 Місяць тому +13

      Nah, that would imply I give a shit for their opinion, which I dont.

    • @TwitterChannelOfficial
      @TwitterChannelOfficial Місяць тому +6

      i learned that my debate opponent fighter has an AK-47 on his pocket

    • @sesaarinen
      @sesaarinen Місяць тому +13

      Sometimes it's about learning how utterly dumb the other person really is. (On a more serious note, for a debate actually be about learning it should require both parties have at least similar knowledge over the issue and at that point it's mostly about the perspective)

    • @fuze9923
      @fuze9923 Місяць тому

      ​true, from experience ​@@sesaarinen

  • @ayushsingh5517
    @ayushsingh5517 Місяць тому +15

    "if you cant dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit" - quote of the century

  • @shainathegreat4456
    @shainathegreat4456 Місяць тому +46

    Thank you for this,those kids in preschool didnt stand a chance

  • @m.c.martin
    @m.c.martin Місяць тому +63

    The funny thing is, I’ve used one simple Japanese Philosophy Trick to win just about every argument I’ve ever had, which makes most of this advice redundant.
    “The best weapon you have is your enemies/(opponents).”
    For example, if someone insults you, riff off of their insult, rephrase it a bit differently, and throw it back at them. That is because psychologically they are insulting you the way they think will hurt you, but indirectly revealing what types of insults hurt them. Thus why you should never be the first to throw insults.
    In debate, you have their presented ideas, and you can either counter what they are saying, you already have their stance, just counter it with either historical facts, or present a time they contradicted themselves. Or ask questions about what they said.
    Remember, if you can answer their questions, but they can’t answer yours in return, you’re actually the one winning.

    • @mo-s-
      @mo-s- Місяць тому +2

      I will steal your tactics 👍

  • @nys8971
    @nys8971 Місяць тому +34

    Confidence stills plays a huge role in debate, being able to stand in front and say all the bullshit with a straight face makes for a more compelling argument

  • @folasadeakinla4929
    @folasadeakinla4929 Місяць тому +163

    That introduction was genuinely the funniest one minute of my life omg😭😭😭

  • @jdubs681
    @jdubs681 Місяць тому +153

    How to win every argument: the use and abuse of logic by Madsen Pirie is a great quick read that outlines the different types of fallacies used in debate. Just being able to recognize a fallacy when it’s being used helps tremendously.

    • @unsolicitedadvice9198
      @unsolicitedadvice9198  Місяць тому +19

      Ah I will have to give it a read!

    • @pedrogames443
      @pedrogames443 Місяць тому

      Thx

    • @ExistingSmiles
      @ExistingSmiles Місяць тому +1

      I learned fallacies in 7th grade as apart of my school, i can confirm learning fallacies is useful for arguing

    • @DawnAfternoon
      @DawnAfternoon Місяць тому +1

      @@ExistingSmiles Or to use the fallacies as a leverage to assert their lack of knowledge to the "audience", debate isn't only about winning a point it's also convincing third parties about your point

    • @TshidiMPule
      @TshidiMPule Місяць тому +1

      I know a few logical fallacies but I haven't any means of refuting them without seeming incompetent. Do you, perhaps, know any?

  • @FeastOfVermin
    @FeastOfVermin Місяць тому +33

    This really shows how a debate is a very unefficient form of communication and should be avoided except for entertainement purposes.

  • @zawadmuttaqi5597
    @zawadmuttaqi5597 Місяць тому +61

    Reddit tutorial

  • @clemintyne7898
    @clemintyne7898 Місяць тому +11

    Saving this to my “stuff that I should study for MUN, but I don’t care enough to do so” list

  • @sebastian7191
    @sebastian7191 Місяць тому +18

    Good to see the comments are aware that argument and discussion should strive for learning and not “winning”, everyone should be aware of these tactics though to avoid doing them. Or being frustrated when encountered with someone disingenuous.

  • @kif-zallrhat1870
    @kif-zallrhat1870 Місяць тому +72

    So what you're saying is that we should all have the money to subscribe to your patreon in order to see more videos like this? That's not the point of UA-cam.

    • @Stinkymoe
      @Stinkymoe Місяць тому +4

      Loolll

    • @lilly3161
      @lilly3161 Місяць тому +8

      Dude mastered it already

  • @TINA11199
    @TINA11199 27 днів тому +7

    Yea yea a handsome man on internet teaching us how to debate.
    An absolute yes

  • @Arizoo-
    @Arizoo- Місяць тому +65

    You have no idea how much I love your videos, I’m a university student and every single day I watch your videos, my classmates find it hard to understand what you’re saying because first of all English isn’t our first language, second u mostly talk about Dostoevsky & they don’t know him , so I have to translate what you’re saying and give em information about Dostoevsky etc but they really enjoy watching your videos. Me and some girls in my class sit together and play your videos in morning and during lunch break .
    I want to be just like you sir , I want to gain more and more knowledge about philosophy and other things , even though im a zoology major student but I have really great interest in literature and philosophy. And one more thing you truely deserve millions of subscribers . Much love, pls keep posting more and more videos , you’re an inspiration ❤

    • @unsolicitedadvice9198
      @unsolicitedadvice9198  Місяць тому +12

      Ah thank you so much! That is very kind!

    • @Arizoo-
      @Arizoo- Місяць тому +1

      @@unsolicitedadvice9198 thanks for replying 🤍🤝

    • @DJWESG1
      @DJWESG1 Місяць тому +2

      See Donna harraway, no need to thank me

    • @Arizoo-
      @Arizoo- Місяць тому

      @@DJWESG1 I will , for sure 🤍

    • @manubishe
      @manubishe Місяць тому +3

      Great, there will be a zoologist that knows her words and thoughts.
      More power to you

  • @polyliker8065
    @polyliker8065 17 днів тому +3

    "You're essentially forcing their minds to continuously jump from issue to issue, never letting them rest long enough to form a coherent thought."
    As someone that has adhd, all i can say that i have been traininv myself for this exact thing.

  • @brrryan2908
    @brrryan2908 Місяць тому +21

    LOVE your sarcasm, humor, delivery, etc! LOL!

  • @startingwithsmartness859
    @startingwithsmartness859 Місяць тому +38

    Never do this kind of things in debate.
    But still watch to aware of these things to know what your opponent exactly doing so you have a idea to correct him/her.

  • @Shozey2110
    @Shozey2110 28 днів тому +7

    Those kindergarteners dont stand a chance.

  • @princetzl5533
    @princetzl5533 Місяць тому +13

    a person that uses all these techniques isn't someone worth arguing with

    • @yabrofenko
      @yabrofenko Місяць тому +2

      It's nice to know where those insta ppl I've been arguing with learned from 😂 Now I can do the same for them (:

    • @asheater
      @asheater Місяць тому +1

      At the end of the day, arguing isn't about logic, it's about winning the sayed argument. Even if it's with these outrageous "tips"

    • @danielluskan4752
      @danielluskan4752 Місяць тому

      isnt argument and debate a different thing?

  • @Btd-Marc
    @Btd-Marc 21 день тому +2

    A great reminder is that, just because your opponent is very confident that they’re right and haven’t admitted to being wrong, doesn’t mean you’re wrong. People are close minded in arguments and debates, what matters more is you know for a fact you destroyed that person in front of everyone and the audience will let you know that.

  • @zexor98
    @zexor98 Місяць тому +5

    Thankyou for your videos, they are my favourite videos on youtube. Not only are you clear and concise but you deliver it in a way that it is intriguing and a joy to listen to.
    So thankyou good sir! We need more creators with your enthusiasm on the subjects they speak of.

  • @thecarnew5334
    @thecarnew5334 Місяць тому +5

    If you have a short attention span like most of us, here’s the basics:
    Step 1: “so what your saying is…(insert outlandish/exaggerated version of opponents argument)”
    Step two: make a sensible argument when they aren’t looking and once they do say “get a load of this guy, he wasn’t paying attention” or “get a load of this guy, he doesn’t think (insert sensible comment here)”
    Step three: flood them with questions so they get mentally drained
    Step four: say the downsides to make them look evil
    Step five: say something that isn’t true but also say it’s “common sense”
    Step six: interrupt the person to make them look foolish later
    Step seven: make the opponent angry so they look foolish
    Step eight: say sentences that are too fancy or complicated like “why shall I debate with this foolish looking person?”
    Step 9: basically a bit more logical normal fighting
    Step 10: the lessons of deceit
    Step 9 and 10 are convoluted (and have the actual numeral symbols) because you’ll have to watch those yourself. It’s good for him and your attention span. Anyways bye bye!

  • @mossycliffs
    @mossycliffs Місяць тому +3

    dude i love your videos. not only do i learn a lot but also have a smile on the face for the entirety of it. sense of humor is immaculate, the jokes just keep on going and going. love it!!!!!!!!

  • @yesyesyes-mz3pb
    @yesyesyes-mz3pb 21 день тому +6

    Instructions unclear i won a debate against my teacher now im failing 3 classes.

  • @sethshams
    @sethshams Місяць тому +15

    Omg, i was litterrally searching right now for a video on f...king hellish people that interrupts endlessly and malignantly any exchange of ideas in a debate and you just happened to publish your video so i'd like to thank you so much for this smart move of yours ! I've read this book of Shopenhauer and i was wandering if he talked about this problem precisely you did a great job synthesizing his book

    • @crowleeisonfire
      @crowleeisonfire Місяць тому

      Yea thers someone in my uni like that. I'm great at logical good faith or at the very least educated deabting, was in the debate team for my school for a long while. But dude literally does every single thing listed in this video. I felt like I was just being crazy or something but Holly shit I'm starting to think I might not be

  • @kevinsayes
    @kevinsayes Місяць тому +10

    Love it man. Keep going, I think you’ve got something good going on here with the channel; you’re good at this. Thanks for the vid

  • @nuubda_shreyan
    @nuubda_shreyan Місяць тому +2

    The grammar, deep voice, and vocabulary makes me attracted to this video like a magnet

  • @MuffinDogg
    @MuffinDogg 22 дні тому +2

    I would pay to watch two people who follow these principles argue

  • @robitpower
    @robitpower Місяць тому +5

    I've used these methods in real life, and now I have a closely dedicated group of people who want to keep me happy all the time. How nice of them! 11/10 would recommend again!

  • @koolunit
    @koolunit Місяць тому +29

    He is right on the money. I used to train ppl both in collegiate debating and real life debating. Schopenhauers tricks work in both settings, even if the collegiate debating world tries to count only logic and sound reasoning. A debate is the proces of impressing your 'rightness' unto the audience, not to defeat your opponents logic. Ware those who forget this

  • @remrem_
    @remrem_ Місяць тому +3

    Your channel is a gold mine- i just joined the debates club at my school and i have been given a topic to debate so that they may deduce my skills. Your videos are very infromative and have been helping me immensely in my preparation, i feel like im gonna be able to give a really good first impression now (by gaslighting the living daylights out of my opponent). Thank you :)
    Btw, great book recs

  • @AnnieAnn_xyz
    @AnnieAnn_xyz Місяць тому +4

    Problem is when your opponent has seen this video too!!!

  • @konstantinos_p4466
    @konstantinos_p4466 Місяць тому +4

    Piers Morgan has learnt that book by heart

  • @tylerwarwick7975
    @tylerwarwick7975 Місяць тому +4

    I am so damn glad I found this channel, thank you for consistently making such great videos.

  • @moonlight-oe4en
    @moonlight-oe4en 6 днів тому

    I love how, contrarily to other youtubers, you’ve got a positive way to convey ur message
    You’re dynamic, not negative or too serious or pessimistic and while what you say is interesting and you keep the main informations without giving too much examples, we appreciate listening to you and your attitude makes it even funnier.
    Keep it up!

  • @darknewt9959
    @darknewt9959 4 дні тому

    An absolute masterclass. If nothing else, the best explanation of Motte and Bailey arguments I've yet to see.

  • @KonikaTheWhiteChihuahua
    @KonikaTheWhiteChihuahua Місяць тому +4

    Can’t wait to see the video where we’re able to fight these type of arguers that just want to win. Or point it out to them/others

  • @Heaz847
    @Heaz847 Місяць тому +3

    Another great video. I love logic and philosophy so finding your channel is right up my street!

  • @Zoroastro11220
    @Zoroastro11220 Місяць тому +2

    I’m not a English native speaker and i love your mastery of the language. Thanks to it i learn every day new words (not the usual ones that you hear in shorts or more generally in garbage content) and expression that help me develop a whole new approach to the language.

  • @palemoonlight96
    @palemoonlight96 Місяць тому +20

    What an amazing video, please do more practical philosophy/rhetorics like this
    also love how expressive, humorous and lively you always are!!

  • @Corvid-Conquest
    @Corvid-Conquest Місяць тому +17

    Thank you for this crash course in the Vaush school of debate!

  • @wetwillyis_1881
    @wetwillyis_1881 Місяць тому +32

    Easiest way to win an argument is when someone starts using these techniques against you to just simple reply: “cope.”

  • @MrAhmed-dx5hw
    @MrAhmed-dx5hw 18 днів тому +4

    Me watching this a week before the students president speach at my college 💀.

  • @conquef
    @conquef Місяць тому +2

    i do not argue to win, i argue for a chance of more awareness of my thoughts and others, also for a choice to change my or their worldview for the better, so no thank you.

  • @MrPatrickslovell
    @MrPatrickslovell 15 днів тому

    Brilliant! Outstanding delivery. I was rolling!

  • @apostleoffate2028
    @apostleoffate2028 Місяць тому +59

    "What a smart and handsome man, I wish my boyfriend were like him" - I really died of laughter for a few moments! Nice one mate!😂
    Edit: "If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit!" - OMG🤣

  • @golDroger88
    @golDroger88 Місяць тому +13

    The sad reality is that communication is only 20% verbal and Logos itself plays an even more irrelevant part. To convince someone you must appeal to his emotions, you cannot escape from that truth.

    • @daanschone1548
      @daanschone1548 Місяць тому

      Seems like you really want to believe that.

    • @golDroger88
      @golDroger88 Місяць тому +2

      @@daanschone1548 That's my life experience. Just look at politics to see what works and what doesn't.

    • @daanschone1548
      @daanschone1548 Місяць тому +1

      @@golDroger88 you use words as "sad reality" and "cannot escape from the truth", but now you say it is just your personal opinion?

  • @TheRealMakani
    @TheRealMakani 16 днів тому +1

    I will never show this to my brother... He has already subconsciously mastered half of these techniques, no need to add any more fuel to the fire.

  • @alexleung133
    @alexleung133 10 днів тому

    One of the most useful thing to learn regardless whether will you use it or not

  • @for_fox_aches
    @for_fox_aches Місяць тому +4

    I cant wait to see you in a debate and/or forum/round table. Please make that happen.

  • @infinitiger
    @infinitiger Місяць тому +2

    This was such a delightful video. Thank you 😆

  • @kezia8027
    @kezia8027 Місяць тому +2

    Not going to lie, given the current level of discourse about, well, everything... I was apprehensive about the title, thankfully the description has relieved me of the majority of those concerns, and now to enjoy another thorough, detailed philosophy analysis!

  • @trungquang5102
    @trungquang5102 Місяць тому +12

    The best way to win a debate is not to debate.

  • @DiogenesOnYT
    @DiogenesOnYT Місяць тому +3

    This is pure rhetorical persuasion. Going to apply some of these strategies for WUDC!

    • @Haqueip
      @Haqueip Місяць тому +1

      Bro don't 💀, I think your opponent is still smart to point out

  • @erica.5620
    @erica.5620 Місяць тому +2

    Fucking love the raw sarcasm in this. Subbed
    Good to know so you can point them out, but the point of argument/debate isn't to win, it's to seek the truth. We are surrounded by what is real at the end of the day.
    Most ideas are wrong, with a middle ground civil approach, you can both leave better people.

  • @kezia8027
    @kezia8027 Місяць тому +2

    I've got to admit, as much as it pains me to admit, I've been guilty of falling into this habit. From my recollection it seems to be mostly around topics I have a personal/vested interest in, usually surrounding human rights, so I can see how I could fall into this habit. Thank you for raising this in a way that allows for a detached, objective analysis, without assigning blame or guilt. Assuming the persona of "debate bro" really helped to convey your points clearly, and illustrate how, where and why they can go wrong. The various iterations of the "puppy dilemma" was a fantastic comparison to highlight how absurd yet also on the face of it logical-seeming these arguments can be.
    This is one of my favourite of your vids so far! I just hope you don't burn yourself out with all the content you're creating lately!

    • @alena-qu9vj
      @alena-qu9vj Місяць тому

      But there is no way to say where the "truth" is especially around such topics as human rights. The more personal/emotional interest in any topic, the more the "truth" is just rationalization of your (mostly subconsciouss) emotional preference. And one's smart brain is always able to find "logical" arguments, which persuade the one foremost.
      And it is also very human to use "unlogical"/emotional arguments in such a debate. After all, we are no AI (yet).
      Moreover, what's good about "winning" an argument by fair and logical means, when the real reality does not function like this by no means?

    • @kezia8027
      @kezia8027 Місяць тому

      @@alena-qu9vj I'm not sure that's an accurate statement. There are SOME truths to the universe, and when we discuss human rights, we are talking within a framework of humanity which limits the scope, again allowing much more ability to define the parameters. Human rights are a function of a human society, they are rights that come about as part of existing within a society.
      Existing within a society inherently will be different to not existing within a society, and as such any distinction would always be man-made (whether conscious or unconscious), by virtue of the society needing to be manmade.
      I think you're misconstruing 'truth' with 'morality' which ironically, is essentially in my opinion, the issue with people who use these types of 'debate' and where the illogical premises tend to begin. Truth exists outside of morality.

    • @alena-qu9vj
      @alena-qu9vj Місяць тому

      @@kezia8027 Sorry, but I think it is you who misconstruct truth with morality.
      While I agree that there is a universal „truth“ out there in the realm of ideas, for us material people living in a relative dualistic world, this ideal truth is only accessible via our subjective indivdual perception, which differs in every individual according to their character and experience. There is no universaly approved consensus on which this universal „truth“ may be - thats why all those passionate debates. I hope you do not believe or even preach that it is YOU who knows the truth.
      Any „charter“ of human rights is just a virtual construct having no justification in the real life, where it is always the powerfull ones who force their rules on the weak.
      There is a general sense of morality - specific to different societies and times, and laws which are here for imposing this morality on society - also conforming to respective societies.
      Sorry, „human rights“ today are often just a pretext for the powerfull to force their rules on people or countries, while pursuing their own very selfish goals.

    • @kezia8027
      @kezia8027 Місяць тому

      @@alena-qu9vj No worries, I can see you have a very high opinion of yourself, and an inability to communicate your thoughts concisely which often seems to coincide with an egoistic confidence in the self and the very points you fail to adequately explain or justify.

    • @timjrgebn
      @timjrgebn Місяць тому +1

      I think many who get into philosophical discussions, me included, forget what is actually practical and useful to the world.
      What's a construct, ultimate truth, morality, etc. can be debated all day long. People have dedicated their lives to it. And like the OP said, human suffering can really fuel those debates. And that's understandable. Humans naturally prefer not to suffer...
      But, what is useful to a human? The physical power that "allows" you to disregard the growing consequences of suffering? The social power to convince people what is "necessary" suffering? Without getting into specifics, certain powers that are showing a deep lack of regard for human suffering have now (if you go outside to see) lost nearly all their social power globally. This is leading to a decline in their physical power. That's measurable. And it has been measured and observed with previous societies as well.
      So again, what's a useful discussion then? The relationships between forms of power, human suffering, etc.? Or what are constructs, truths, morality, etc.? To me, at least, one is more measurable than the next.
      This is why when people ask me what I consider the most useful sub-field of philosophy, I tell them analytical philosophy. It's at least measurable and usable. Otherwise, we end up debating in the clouds with our eyes closed, at least that's been my experience through the decades.

  • @josephcolon5812
    @josephcolon5812 Місяць тому +36

    Learning chess tactics: 🤓
    Learning debate tactics: 🗿

    • @Thiger_
      @Thiger_ Місяць тому +4

      So what you are saying is that every chess player is a nerd and is not respectable ?

    • @Jungleali
      @Jungleali Місяць тому +2

      @@Thiger_ so what I’m saying is, chess is a game about a lot of strategies and thinking, however practicing it professionally doesn’t pay off at all.
      So if you play chess, you are a nerd

    • @Thiger_
      @Thiger_ Місяць тому +2

      @@Jungleali So what you are saying is that playing chess is not worthy, and this way you shouldn't make it a profession ?

    • @TechnologyQuest369
      @TechnologyQuest369 Місяць тому +1

      ​@@Thiger_
      Unlimited debate loop 😂

    • @kwxh
      @kwxh Місяць тому

      @@Jungleali playing chess does pay off, many grandmasters made millions of dollar in their career, so it does pay off, but only when youre extremely good

  • @Anand2024
    @Anand2024 Місяць тому +3

    0:19 just when I was thinking about this topic you appear 💯
    Thank you 👍🙏

  • @skeletonizer7512
    @skeletonizer7512 19 днів тому +1

    Its crazy how my mom uses all of these tactics when we argue

  • @name_adi
    @name_adi Місяць тому +1

    That was a nice cautious video about logical fallacies.. thank you!

  • @OldenTreeCult
    @OldenTreeCult Місяць тому +5

    Alright one tip in and he’s already using fallacies 😂😂😂

  • @Didartie
    @Didartie Місяць тому +7

    My mind keeps saying "ben Shapiro?"

    • @Nx3ato
      @Nx3ato Місяць тому

      Mu mind

    • @Didartie
      @Didartie Місяць тому

      @@Nx3ato lmao I didn't even notice! Thanks

  • @soulhitsstudio2222
    @soulhitsstudio2222 26 днів тому +1

    Amazing video! Keep uploading videos its very interesting in this content. Lots of thanks

  • @michaelogbole7369
    @michaelogbole7369 Місяць тому +1

    The video I didn’t know I wanted but definitely needed

  • @lightpriv3425
    @lightpriv3425 Місяць тому +20

    how to be unlikable and difficult to speak to -- a guide

  • @TwoDudesPhilosophy
    @TwoDudesPhilosophy Місяць тому +35

    Humongous swollen
    P…
    I mean brain!

    • @unsolicitedadvice9198
      @unsolicitedadvice9198  Місяць тому +14

      Haha! I couldn't resist

    • @TwoDudesPhilosophy
      @TwoDudesPhilosophy Місяць тому +9

      @@unsolicitedadvice9198 pipijokes, the pinnacle of philosophy!

    • @for_fox_aches
      @for_fox_aches Місяць тому +1

      ​@unsolicitedadvice9198 We love you because you can't lol. Finally got a patreon I see. Get ready to be rich.

  • @MvsicAdd7ct
    @MvsicAdd7ct 7 днів тому

    I don't think I'll be able to use these tactics, but I love the vocab enrichment I'm getting from this video. Perfect for my preparation for my upcoming English exam 🤓

  • @kyrogreed
    @kyrogreed Місяць тому

    got a debate competition in a few weeks, thanks for the help 🙏🙏

  • @yeetusdeletus8204
    @yeetusdeletus8204 Місяць тому +4

    Will use the information provided to manipulate the populace and outlaw burger king fries.

  • @MyeshaFatima505
    @MyeshaFatima505 Місяць тому +3

    Another video lets goooo

  • @JarrynEmms
    @JarrynEmms Місяць тому +2

    You should do a video on how to counterattack someone who does these techniques on you. Great video btw!

  • @stayflippinghard1
    @stayflippinghard1 Місяць тому +1

    love it your channel inspires me to make my own vids about philosophy . This vid was so funny defiantly Gunna uses some of these

  • @ItachiUchihaisamartyr
    @ItachiUchihaisamartyr Місяць тому +6

    Honestly this is kind of evil, don't actually use this knowledge against someone, but learning about it can lead to better understanding of when you are being manipulated.

    • @senxue
      @senxue Місяць тому +3

      Oh so you think it's better to act as a bystander while people are unknowingly manipulated simply because you know better. How selfish

    • @mehmetcagrdogan2753
      @mehmetcagrdogan2753 21 день тому

      ​@@senxue What he's saying is that ordinary people who've never come across this video might be manipulated. So judging by your own words sir, you are very disturbed with the idea of people acknowledging this. Is it maybe that you're using these techniques on behalf of manipulating everyone else? Are you a manipulator sir? Maybe you use these techniques to convince the police that the body under your basement isn't yours!

  • @Ram-ansh_Raghuwanshi
    @Ram-ansh_Raghuwanshi Місяць тому +4

    I like the Debating skill of Vivek Ramaswamy !!! 🔥✨✊

  • @FrancFrag5299
    @FrancFrag5299 Місяць тому +1

    Most debators are equipped against these fallacies and rebuttals with the "call them out on it" move.

  • @zyleafpunch5684
    @zyleafpunch5684 Місяць тому +2

    This video is pure gold

  • @besharam2049
    @besharam2049 Місяць тому +5

    Hii can you make a video on how to become more articulate

  • @Soliloquy-gy6zf
    @Soliloquy-gy6zf Місяць тому +5

    ⚠️ Debates are for the ignorants.
    You don't debate those with opinions.
    You give them Knowledge.
    "Destroy"... is what teenagers aim for.
    You don't destroy anyone.
    You educate them with love.
    Quit ego tripping and humble yourself.
    You're still a child

  • @NeverAStraightAnswer
    @NeverAStraightAnswer Місяць тому +1

    Pause at 5:11. Here I am again; I can’t get enough of this guy.
    Is he not the greatest, literal greatest communicator on logic and reason in our society today?
    I say that without a shred of incredulity. No straw man. I for one have received a college education, listened to many many speakers since then, observed even more debates.
    Take a bow mr British man, whoever you are, because you having the ability to understand and communicate these truths so eloquently means you are very conscious of them and are above them. All of them.

  • @ekaitzsanchez6356
    @ekaitzsanchez6356 14 днів тому

    This video is great! I don't like the kind of debate where they use those techniques but I think it's better to know and identify them in order not to fall on them.
    Btw the way you talk along with your expressions and stuff is great, very understandable and enjoyable to watch🤙🤙

  • @A_M2001
    @A_M2001 Місяць тому

    Just came here after losing an argument now it’s time for round two

  • @creepysleeping4901
    @creepysleeping4901 Місяць тому +2

    Cracking channel lad 👍

  • @kabukiblooki
    @kabukiblooki Місяць тому +1

    It is such a relavant book in the model day,good video❤

  • @marynallon1537
    @marynallon1537 23 дні тому +1

    I needed this for the major task for school😂😂

  • @theb1gf00t
    @theb1gf00t 20 днів тому +1

    Arguing with me is pointless. I purposefully chose the wrong side just to piss people off.

  • @dmitrifydodrovichkaramazov
    @dmitrifydodrovichkaramazov 9 днів тому

    This video reminds me of Machiavelli's The Prince. Just like it, here the backhanded and sinister tactics of powers are being exposed through sarcasm. Great explanation! Will remember when I've got to debate a modern-day sophist.

  • @theambitiousduck
    @theambitiousduck 12 днів тому

    thanks, I needed this to have a rational discussion with my mother ❤

  • @Oreo63769
    @Oreo63769 Місяць тому

    I am so glad i found this channel 😮