The BEST Dumble I've EVER Played!

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  • Опубліковано 18 гру 2024

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  • @VertexEffectsInc
    @VertexEffectsInc  Місяць тому +6

    TABLE OF CONTENTS
    00:00 - Intro Jam
    00:35 - Introducing Dumble ODS 119
    01:10 - Commissioned by Kim "Kimbo" Davis
    01:15 - Unique Specs & Mods
    02:18 - Speaker Cabinet Specs
    03:05 - Our Objectives, Scope, & Process
    05:05 - Overdrive Tones with Les Paul
    06:34 - Overdrive Tones with T-style Guitar
    08:14 - Lead Tone with Les Paul
    10:05 - Clean Into Overdrive (PAB On) with Les Paul
    12:10 - Clean Tone with Les Paul
    13:30 - Clean Tones with S-style Guitar
    12:56 - Final Thoughts on ODS 119
    16:35 - Outro Jam

  • @jackprice7828
    @jackprice7828 Місяць тому +9

    The thing that jumps out to me right away is the incredible rich harmonics in the overdrive. Harmonics that only a tube amp can create. In the high mids, there is an incredible saturation thats just beautiful!

  • @Rummy73
    @Rummy73 Місяць тому +2

    What you are doing for the history of guitar and recording is phenomenal. Great gear specimens and player interviews.

  • @Guuu32
    @Guuu32 Місяць тому +2

    So incredible that you get to document all these dumbles! :o

  • @periloustemple8290
    @periloustemple8290 Місяць тому +1

    All of the playing and tones were just massive. But, Mason: that bit at the outro just grabbed me! Lovely!

    • @VertexEffectsInc
      @VertexEffectsInc  Місяць тому +1

      Oh wow, thanks! We just needed something to finish out the video and Gabriel was already gone.

  • @jsack4
    @jsack4 Місяць тому +3

    Love this series and YES this amp sounds amazing. Keep 'em coming!

  • @jamesemerson4102
    @jamesemerson4102 Місяць тому +2

    Sounds great guys... just listen to those upper harmonics 😍 The sound is one thing but the feel is another aspect that makes this circuit so enjoyable to play. The sag from the old transformers.. the quick/lively response, the touch sensitivity and dynamic range... I thought it sounded great with every guitar in this video, too.

  • @GuiitarBilly
    @GuiitarBilly Місяць тому +1

    This is the tone I expect to hear from a Dumble amp. The bluesy, singing chirpy tone Larry and especially Robben got from their Dumbles. Thanks for this demo. Btw, pretty sure Larry used a Boogie on the studio recording of Room 335.

    • @VertexEffectsInc
      @VertexEffectsInc  Місяць тому +2

      When I spoken to him, he thought he'd moved past Boogie's by then. Definitely by the "On Solid Ground" record. Nevertheless, a lot of the live performances of Room 335 were all Dumble.

  • @surfrduede
    @surfrduede Місяць тому +1

    Mason, amazing sounding amp and review. I think the money aspect of these rare amps is what brings out haters. I would not buy a Jackson Pollack print to hang on my wall, but I can understand why collectors pay millions to own an original. Like Dumble these are unique and important pieces.

    • @VertexEffectsInc
      @VertexEffectsInc  Місяць тому +2

      I think so too...I think it'd be the same conversation if there were only 200 Marshall amps ever made. A Marshall Plexi is an equally great sound to a great Dumble amp, as it a nice AC30, or a Twin Reverb clean. Any of these amps, reduced to limited numbers, we would be having the same conversation about. The price definitely makes it easier to disregard. I agree, it's too much money for the amp, but Dumble didn't make these prices. Not that it was cheap to get it through him, but I think at his max he was around $50K for an amp, and not the $200-300K they ended up fetching on the used market. Again, $50K isn't cheap, but if he's only making a few amps a year, when you consider his time and parts cost, he wasn't getting rich off these amps, it was the collectors that were.

  • @rdvgrd6
    @rdvgrd6 Місяць тому +12

    But does it have a buffer

  • @mikeodendahl
    @mikeodendahl Місяць тому +1

    very cool, Mason. Thanks

  • @johnmiller3804
    @johnmiller3804 Місяць тому +1

    Hi 👋 Mason ,
    Looks and sounds like this was super fun!
    I really enjoy your content!
    Your pedals are pretty awesome too !
    I have the SSS srv, I run a 3699 Fuzz into it to get my fav bloated fuzz tone !

  • @rickclark4714
    @rickclark4714 Місяць тому +2

    It’d be hilarious if the camera panned around and the mic is in front of a katana 50 combo….first gen. 😂

  • @Starch1b2c3d4a
    @Starch1b2c3d4a Місяць тому +3

    Gabe plays these songs like he learned them yesterday

    • @VertexEffectsInc
      @VertexEffectsInc  Місяць тому +1

      Not sure what that means, but if you can play it better, show us!

    • @danielconrad764
      @danielconrad764 Місяць тому +1

      Honestly Mason, I second the comment. I could see future owners of Dumbles being negatively affected by subpar playing on the amps. Would much prefer your playing in any event as you've got great feel. Not hating on Gabe (I think you need to own your successes and shortcomings in equal measure), just giving honest feedback after watching many of your vids, which I love.

  • @JamminJim42
    @JamminJim42 Місяць тому +3

    If Vertex was able to get THAT Dumble sound in a pedal............mmmmmmmmmmm.

    • @Grant_Ferstat
      @Grant_Ferstat Місяць тому +1

      Yep. It's both rich and tight.

    • @VertexEffectsInc
      @VertexEffectsInc  Місяць тому +1

      We've done our best here: www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/UltraPhonmkII--vertex-effects-ultraphonix-mk-ii-overdrive-pedal - but again, no pedal can compete with a real tube amp for overdrive.

  • @BOSSenjoyer
    @BOSSenjoyer Місяць тому +1

    You might want to send it to a Dumble-Approved tech because that sounds like a cranked 1990s solid state practice combo

    • @VertexEffectsInc
      @VertexEffectsInc  Місяць тому

      Godspeed in recovering your hearing. Hope you get well soon!

    • @BOSSenjoyer
      @BOSSenjoyer Місяць тому +1

      @VertexEffectsInc Legit sounds terrible in this video. Keep up the good work lol

    • @Mike_Spor
      @Mike_Spor Місяць тому

      @@VertexEffectsIncI’m blaming it on his Android phone speakers.

  • @loulagro2315
    @loulagro2315 Місяць тому +4

    To the people that are dogging the Dumbles sound, or who are like meh, ....... Please provide in your comment a link to a video clip of you playing the amp that sounds so much better to you...... I bet that would be REALLY interesting, lol ........

    • @JJDon5150
      @JJDon5150 Місяць тому +1

      I'll bite on this. This Dumble isn't doing anything any modern high gain amp can't do. This is a $1,000 Friedman JJ Jr for example. ua-cam.com/video/FEXZ4DdH3gg/v-deo.html

    • @VertexEffectsInc
      @VertexEffectsInc  Місяць тому +1

      @@JJDon5150 sounds great, but I don't think folks would use a Dumble for that high gain sound...it's definitely more of a blues/fusion amp. I think the Friedman is a great amp, but not an apples to apples comparison tone-wise.

  • @jxjz8416
    @jxjz8416 Місяць тому +2

    Tommy Cougar Mystic Blues Star does THIS thing... hands down

    • @VertexEffectsInc
      @VertexEffectsInc  Місяць тому

      How do you know? Have you played this Dumble and compared it to the Mystic Blues in the room? It's no knock on those amps, but you've got no reference point for how these amps would stack up in the same room with the same mics.

  • @ChillLoungeBurner1
    @ChillLoungeBurner1 Місяць тому +1

    its so chewyyyyyy!! love it!

  • @metart93
    @metart93 3 дні тому

    Does anyone know what the speakers are behind the desk? Looks like Bowers and WIlkins maybe? Curious to know the model.

  • @thesoundpurist
    @thesoundpurist Місяць тому +2

    Is this an old vintage LP there?

    • @VertexEffectsInc
      @VertexEffectsInc  Місяць тому +1

      No, I think that's a mid 2010's Tom Murphy aged Les Paul. It belongs to Gabriel.

  • @thesoundpurist
    @thesoundpurist Місяць тому +2

    What are the power tubes?

  • @stanesposito2664
    @stanesposito2664 Місяць тому +1

    I believe Lowell George played single coils with his Dumble (Strat).

    • @VertexEffectsInc
      @VertexEffectsInc  Місяць тому +2

      Yes, he was one of the view. Bonnie Raitt as well, but most of the guys people reference as the "Dumble" players are humbucker players for sure.

  • @mattwinegar527
    @mattwinegar527 Місяць тому +1

    Incredible sounding amp, I can only imagine what it'll sell for. Also, My god... What studio is that? Look at those Nautilus N801's all around.

    • @VertexEffectsInc
      @VertexEffectsInc  Місяць тому +1

      It's the BEST one I've come into contact with as far as ODS amps go. They seem to be getting upwards of $250K these days (or more). That's Igloo Studios in Burbank.

  • @haloworld121212
    @haloworld121212 Місяць тому +2

    Please make a preamp pedal based on this amp, i love your SSS but i think we need an ods style preamp 😂 ❤

    • @VertexEffectsInc
      @VertexEffectsInc  Місяць тому +2

      We do, Ultraphonix MKII, and it's on sale right now for early Black Friday deals at Sweetwater: www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/UltraPhonmkII--vertex-effects-ultraphonix-mk-ii-overdrive-pedal

    • @kevinmackfurniture
      @kevinmackfurniture Місяць тому +1

      I own and love the SSS so much, I also bought the Nux knockoff. Similar, but different. I stack them, using the SSS as the always on tone and the Nux to create an extra boost/od.

    • @haloworld121212
      @haloworld121212 Місяць тому

      @ seems like a good idea! How close is the nux knockoff to a dumble style od?

    • @kevinmackfurniture
      @kevinmackfurniture Місяць тому

      @haloworld121212 enough to make Vertex make a video about whether Nux had cloned their SSS..... Which is a dumble clone....so...ya know.

    • @kevinmackfurniture
      @kevinmackfurniture Місяць тому

      @@haloworld121212 you can tell the difference in the pots and switch. The SSS has a wider usable range. The better quality pots, may have something to do with that.

  • @waynegram8907
    @waynegram8907 Місяць тому +2

    Is Vertex going to make a Kim Kimbo Davis SSS pedal with the mods? The lead guitarist from the band America live on midnight special looks like he is using a DUMBLE amplifier which you should look into to make a video lesson about it and which America songs he used the Dumble amplifier, CLICK here to watch the video ua-cam.com/video/GtihZaEViOM/v-deo.html

    • @VertexEffectsInc
      @VertexEffectsInc  Місяць тому +1

      Don't think so, since Kimbo didn't use an SSS. I'll check out the video.

    • @waynegram8907
      @waynegram8907 Місяць тому +1

      @VertexEffectsInc I meant is vertex going to make a dumble ODS 119 kimbo mods pedal?

    • @VertexEffectsInc
      @VertexEffectsInc  Місяць тому +1

      @@waynegram8907 No plans to do so.

  • @wakjob961
    @wakjob961 Місяць тому +1

    What, no 8-string headless laying around to try it with? ;-)

  • @DjTroublemaker
    @DjTroublemaker Місяць тому +1

    from the first notes!!!!

  • @ClassicSciFiandBeyond
    @ClassicSciFiandBeyond Місяць тому +1

    I heard that someone is reviving the Dumble brand? Since Dumble is a soft spot for many players, what is YOUR take on the news?

    • @VertexEffectsInc
      @VertexEffectsInc  Місяць тому +2

      Yes, the owners of the Dumble estate are said to be making the amplifiers again. I believe their hand was forced because they have to, in good faith, be producing amplifiers to sell in order to protect their trademark. There were companies in Europe attempting to remake Dumble amplifiers with their name and likeness that I believe Dumble's estate managers were in litigation with and came to the conclusion that they needed to be actively making amps with the Dumble name in order to preserve his legacy. I'm sure will be many hard decisions they'll have to make moving forward to keep the brand and name alive that might have been at odds with how Dumble might have done things in the past but may be necessary in the survival of the Dumble name.

    • @ClassicSciFiandBeyond
      @ClassicSciFiandBeyond Місяць тому

      @@VertexEffectsInc As long as they can assemble a tight enough crew, all with the focus and dedication...I'd love to see them coming from the legendary past!! I'm excited!!

  • @h20s56
    @h20s56 12 днів тому

    Just saying, if you need pedals...Let's just say I have heard the same or better with Two-Rock, Fender etc... We can keep our nostalgia of this.

  • @drebatista
    @drebatista Місяць тому +2

    But, does it djent?

    • @VertexEffectsInc
      @VertexEffectsInc  Місяць тому +3

      Couldn't say...it's illegal to play that through a Dumble in some states.

  • @tubingforever
    @tubingforever Місяць тому +1

    Overdrive was kinda so-so to me, but that clean is probably the best clean I've ever heard.

    • @VertexEffectsInc
      @VertexEffectsInc  Місяць тому +1

      Sounds pretty damn good on my studio monitors...doesn't get more "Dumble" than this.

  • @StuartwasDrinkell
    @StuartwasDrinkell Місяць тому +1

    Knowing I'll never know the air and push of this tone makes me sad!

    • @VertexEffectsInc
      @VertexEffectsInc  Місяць тому +2

      You may...hope you get a chance to play through one someday. They turn up at certain shops from time to time.

  • @AmiGuitar
    @AmiGuitar Місяць тому +3

    You could have said you were playing any overdrive pedal and i would have believed you

    • @VertexEffectsInc
      @VertexEffectsInc  Місяць тому +2

      Is that more indicative of inexperience with Dumble amplifiers or overestimating what's possible from a solid state distortion pedal? Remember there are some folks that thing Sizzler is just as good as Ruth's Chris. Could just be a case of "Tone Beer Goggles."

    • @csl4159
      @csl4159 Місяць тому

      The sound has that solid state fizziness to my ears

    • @VertexEffectsInc
      @VertexEffectsInc  Місяць тому +1

      @@csl4159 godspeed in recovering your hearing! Wishing you all the best in your recovery ❤️‍🩹

    • @jamesemerson4102
      @jamesemerson4102 Місяць тому

      No overdrive pedal can create that type of richness or complexity in the harmonics. The only thing I've tried that comes even remotely close is the Kingsley valve pedals. Listen to the high notes specifically. You can just hear the harmonics swimming around. Sounds great. Also don't forget that the amp is being mic'd up and recorded direct in and would definitely sound much bigger/more 3D in the room. These amps are also about the feel. There is nothing quite like playing a good one yourself. The attack/response you feel from the amp is very lively and fast. They're just so alive.

  • @StuCrombie
    @StuCrombie Місяць тому

    The nembrini plug ins based off this version

    • @VertexEffectsInc
      @VertexEffectsInc  Місяць тому +1

      Based off this serial number just an Overdrive Special? I doubt they had this one, and each ODS sounds different as they're basically custom suits made for the player.

    • @StuCrombie
      @StuCrombie Місяць тому

      @VertexEffectsInc yeah I ment The Overdrive special, one word these days can get you in trouble "version" 😂 yeah I know he tailored each amp to a player, but there must of been standard models, I worked in an amp repair shop doing speakers in 1995, I probly seen a dumble there unless it all went back to Dumble themselves, I just wasnt into amp tone back then just everything high gain and high ohm pick ups 😂

  • @thiagocesaro
    @thiagocesaro Місяць тому +2

    Eventually Joe Bonamassa and John Mayer will have all the Dumbles.

  • @jhesbol
    @jhesbol Місяць тому

    Beautiful amp. Feel the need to mention that Larry's tone would be far less saturated, but it all sounds so damn good!

    • @VertexEffectsInc
      @VertexEffectsInc  Місяць тому +1

      Depends on the Larry Carlton era..."On Solid Ground" has some gain to it so does "Larry and Lee". I think he was also using a Valley Arts more on some of those as well so it doesn't have quite as much saturation as the ES-335 due to the single coils (albeit they were often active EMGs on the VA guitars).

  • @marki7661
    @marki7661 Місяць тому

    If I had the money where I could justify buying a Dumble, I would try and find a Trainwreck Express and Liverpool instead

    • @VertexEffectsInc
      @VertexEffectsInc  Місяць тому +1

      Trainwreck amps are amazing, but it's not a replacement for a Dumble. Not sure this is an apples to apples comparison.

  • @BOSSenjoyer
    @BOSSenjoyer Місяць тому +1

    I'd rather have a Super Reverb or Bassman but then again I use my ears not forum words

    • @VertexEffectsInc
      @VertexEffectsInc  Місяць тому

      I don't think anything here contests that both of those amps (Super and Bassman) have great sounds, however, they're not compared here so there's no frame of reference for how these might sound recorded in a room relative to the Dumble in video. I'm not sure how forums come into play here as most of those members have never played (or seen) a Dumble. We're using our ears and talking about what we hear and the adjectives used are aligned with that.

    • @BOSSenjoyer
      @BOSSenjoyer Місяць тому

      @VertexEffectsInc Just because something is expensive doesn't mean it's actually good. I'd take a Hot Rod DeVille over this, sorry.

  • @lorcazola
    @lorcazola Місяць тому +1

    TONEX IT and I'll buy IT !

    • @VertexEffectsInc
      @VertexEffectsInc  Місяць тому +5

      The "Blow Up Doll" of tone...sounds just like the real thing, huh?

    • @ushnicyuvnikof2748
      @ushnicyuvnikof2748 Місяць тому

      Captures are so bad. I can't believe we are in capture land in 2024. If an amp is set up just rite for a certain guitar and player, your squire with 80% weaker output pickups is going to make that capture useless to you.

    • @jeewilly321
      @jeewilly321 Місяць тому

      Closed minded and ignorant opinions. Tone models and captures vastly increase the ease of playing with many different types of amps/tones. Plus, not everyone can afford or even have space to own amplifiers.

    • @jeewilly321
      @jeewilly321 Місяць тому

      ​@@VertexEffectsIncabsolutely ignorant comment

    • @HALWASRIGHT
      @HALWASRIGHT Місяць тому +1

      @@VertexEffectsIncHahhahahahahahahaha! Holy shit that made me laugh because it's so true!

  • @BeefNEggs057
    @BeefNEggs057 Місяць тому +1

    Very mediocre especially tone and playing.
    You should play the demos. You’ve gotten really good.

    • @BOSSenjoyer
      @BOSSenjoyer Місяць тому

      5yrs of googling Dumble every day sound

    • @VertexEffectsInc
      @VertexEffectsInc  Місяць тому

      I thought Gabe played great. I couldn't have played as well.

  • @JoseATW
    @JoseATW Місяць тому

    No disrespect intended here, but I wish more than anything we could hear this played by someone else, playing literally anything else other than the typical Robben Ford/Larry Carlton/John Mayer riffs. These amps sound amazing, and it’d be great to hear them in a different context.
    No offense, Gabe. It’s nothing personal :/

    • @VertexEffectsInc
      @VertexEffectsInc  Місяць тому +1

      Jose, for the purposes of keeping the player and sounds consistent across most of these Dumble videos we opted to keep the song choices similar for reference so you could compare various serial numbers and have a relative baseline. Furthermore, these are the types of sounds these amps tend to excel at, where playing metal or CCM might not have a desirable result. I'll keep this in mind for our next one where maybe we do some separate sound examples that might not be as typical.

  • @Turboyeehawguitar
    @Turboyeehawguitar 7 днів тому

    Did he do any metal amps for like iommi or was it all blooze boomer shit😂. Im joking

  • @shanemcconnell1736
    @shanemcconnell1736 Місяць тому +4

    This year the dumbbell has become last year’s Klon, only harder to find if not impossible, guitar players are just kind of ridiculous, I only listen to the first bit of rhythm playing you were doing didn’t sound special at all to me, none of my favorite guitar players have ever used a dumbel, spellcheck wanted to call it a dumbbell, I guess that’s what you are, if you buy one

    • @VertexEffectsInc
      @VertexEffectsInc  Місяць тому +7

      As far as rare gear, Dumble has the Klon beat for decades and even more so now that Dumble is no longer living. It's a great sounding amp, but not for everyone, just as other classic amps: Fender, Marshall, Vox, also aren't for everyone. You may not be willing to spend the money (nor am I) to get a Dumble, but nobody loses money on them if/when they decide to buy them. They're only increasing in value and anyone I know that's bought one and sold it (typically to get another Dumble) has at least made their money back plus 30% appreciation on top of it (if not more) even it they're only owned it for 1-2 years. One of my biggest gear regrets was not buying an ODS when I had a chance to get one for $42,000. I saw the same amp recently sold for $250K a few years ago. That would have been a sound investment. Now you can't touch an Overdrive Special for anywhere close to that.

    • @shanemcconnell1736
      @shanemcconnell1736 Місяць тому

      @ I heard that Dumbo used to make you pay two grand just to get in line to get an amp, that was your down payment and some people never heard from him again? So it’s kind of like playing the lottery you spend two grand and hope that somebody makes the amp for you, if he doesn’t get around to your name on the list, you don’t get the money back, nice guy

    • @jetairliner9660
      @jetairliner9660 Місяць тому +4

      Wow, you must really be an extraordinary person, and player!, to be able to lay down the law on a Dumble amp in such a self confident way! Truly impressive! And the way you backed up your opinion with unnamed favourite guitar players REALLY put everyone into place! Oh, and the way you explained your elaborate misspelling of the word Dumble was just poetry. Kudos! Champ!

    • @shanemcconnell1736
      @shanemcconnell1736 Місяць тому

      @ it’s quicker to name the people that on a Dumbo than the ones that don’t don’t you think, and you know who doesn’t own one Mr. jet airliner ,Steve Miller

    • @jazzafly257
      @jazzafly257 Місяць тому

      ​@shanemcconnell1736 if you're even dumbbell enough yourself to put Steve Miller in the same UNIVERSE as Robben Ford, Larry Carlton, Carlos Santana and John Mayer, my guess is you ain't got ears!!

  • @Paralung
    @Paralung Місяць тому

    I've played better Dumbles. Not even in my top 50 Dumbles.

  • @jamesprice6381
    @jamesprice6381 Місяць тому

    Pretty sure i saw the gut shot of that amp @ ampgarage, n BLV is act solid state FX loop! !

    • @VertexEffectsInc
      @VertexEffectsInc  Місяць тому +1

      I didn't see inside, but I don't think it did as there are no controls from the send or return level on the back and just adding a cable to the send/return of the loop degraded the tone significantly which made me thing it's likely passive.

  • @HC-nm7gk
    @HC-nm7gk Місяць тому

    Guys the real magic is in the hands 🪄

    • @VertexEffectsInc
      @VertexEffectsInc  Місяць тому +1

      What about the brain? If you just have hands, what good are they?

    • @HC-nm7gk
      @HC-nm7gk Місяць тому +1

      @ okay the brain and the hands 😂

    • @BOSSenjoyer
      @BOSSenjoyer Місяць тому

      ​@@VertexEffectsIncIf the brain is running off of pixiedust forum mojo and isn't connected to the ears, maybe?

    • @VertexEffectsInc
      @VertexEffectsInc  Місяць тому

      @@BOSSenjoyer huh?

  • @Stereostupid
    @Stereostupid Місяць тому

    Great amp but man i think trainwreck Liverpool tweed bassman and old Marshall jtm/plexi sound way better IMHO i don't get the fascination of a tweeked bandmaster bassman circuit being worth 150k 😂thats just stupidity the vibrolux sounds just as good if not better in ways

    • @VertexEffectsInc
      @VertexEffectsInc  Місяць тому +1

      I love the Trainwrecks too, they didn't seem to maintain their mystique the same was as the Dumbles, but equally great sounds (just totally different). I think it's reductive however to say that it's just a tweaked "Bandmaster" or whatever (all Fender front ends on the mid 60's amps are the same BTW). The same could be said (if we're being reductive) about Trainwrecks. It's just a Plexi or VOX, etc. If you know the reference amps well and then play a Dumble or a Trainwreck, you quickly understand they're their own thing.