An opinion to your question @ 23:22. Age has to do a lot with social pressure. In Korea, people generally assume that one should be at a certain stage in life by each age group (10s should be studying, 20s should be in college, 30s should be married, etc.) While this life agenda is not uncommon in other nations, the problem is that many Koreans harshly judge on anyone that does not live along this road. This age-agenda culture also affects the way many Koreans view Donghun and Jian's relationship as "this age gap should not be romantic". This is because in most Koreans' minds, the two are in very different stages of life. Junghee's case is honestly set a bit extreme for ordinary people since she is obsessed with the same man for about 20 years. But if you sense any "age" issues lingering around her struggles and actually many points in this drama, that is probably why you are seeing that. Not too say that age-centric society is simply bad, since the drama also notes some of its good parts. Older adults being more mature and embracing younger generation, younger adult like Jian showing respect to older adult like DH as the story progresses, etc. (In episode 7, you will see that Jian does not start eating the steamed beef before Donghun takes the first bite. This is a common sign of respecting the elder, which Jian did not practice in the the eariler dinners with him like in episode 2.)
Yeah that's an interesting detail I noticed too but also notice in other dramas....the eating etiquette and it's hierarchy ...it feels like a stronger theme in Korea than in Europe the age differences....but that may also be influenced by me and who I am surrounded by...social pressure itself seems a stronger factor...thanks for explaining..👍😁
I think there is another point besides the age-based eating hierarchy at the scene you've mentioned. Yes, Jian did not start eating before he took his first bite. Jian always was the more transparent and expectant side in this relationship. Under the lack of any skinship, eating together was a blessing for her. They shared these special moments even they could not hug or kiss. Jian knows eating moments are so precious. After Donghun starts to eat, she feels that he also likes her, and her love is not one-sided. So, she starts eating after she feels relaxed.
Thank you for these wonderful reactions, and for bringing together a group of people who similarly appreciate this drama. For the IU fans here, there is a great IU TV episode filmed just after this series wrapped up, and she talks at length about the Dear Moon lyrics (she wrote), and many other thoughts about the drama. One thing I found so touching was how strongly she connected with the JH character - and spoke about trying to love without reserve (no room for hate). For those of you who aren’t already huge IU fans - do yourself a favor and learn more about her and her story. When you realize she was raised by her grandmother in poverty when young - living for a time in a single room with limited food, you then also recognize why her anxiety spiked early in the filming of this drama, leading to her hospitalization. Her performance is truly remarkable. Everything about her is pretty remarkable.
Thank you for adding this and thanks for your comments. i am so glad they managed to convince her to carry on filming! You're right..her performance is incredible.
when she said that if i ever get to be born again i want to be born in this neighborhood as if her real home that Park Dong-hoon thinks she failed to find was there.
Dong-hoon's line at 09:30 is, 'This isn't home, but she keeps mistaking it for home.' It's the nuance of being in the wrong place and wandering around without knowing how to get back home. In another scene, Dong-hoon and Jung-hee have a similar conversation while drinking. "Why is life so cheap/mean?" "It's cheap/mean because We don't love each other". I don't know how the English subtitles were translated, but the verb 'chisahada' is difficult to translate here. Usually, the dictionary says "cheap," but it has many implications, and it also means "narrow-minded", "stingy" and "ashamed." That is, it is usually used to blame others. Like, 'He's so cheap/mean'. It gives a strange nuance because it is used here about life, not people. Anyway, Jeong-hee's answer to Dong-hoon's comment is that life is miserable because everybody is stingy with love. It matches the lyrics of 'One Million Roses'. IU thinks this is a perfect answer to Dong-hoon's question, and she put the lyrics "Would you like to bloom one million roses with me?" in the song "Blueming" released after filming this drama. I think this drama has a strong Buddhist color(Dong-hoon is more of a Confucian figure than a Buddhist though). Buddhists aim to stop the pain of being born, old, sick and dying. When I see terms that are used symbolically throughout the drama, such as reincarnation or not being reborn, I naturally think of them. The funny thing is, Like Ki-hoon said, 'I won't go to the star. It's super boring,' the eldest brother says similar things in the scene where the three brothers drink in a cart bar. When Dong-hoon said, "Let's stop being born again," Sang-hoon said, "It's too bad to stop being born again. What do you do if you're not born? 'It's boring. It's fun to live. I just don't have money though.' Contrary to what Dong-hoon and Ji-an think they don't want to be reborn, they both affirm their current lives. It won't be painful if they're not born again, but there won't be a good time to spend with friends at Jeong-hee's bar. If you don't born and do nothing, you'll be bored and lonely. Everyone has own problems and pain, but they sympathize with each other and comfort each other. Jian, who even hated spring, said later, "It's okay to be born again. I can be reborn. It's ok', and 'If I were born again, I'd like to be born in this town.' This world can be hell, or a star-land. In Christian terms, 'the kingdom of God is within us.' If you feel like this isn't your home, do love. Then this place will turn into your home, into your star-land. My English sentences can be a little awkward because I used a translator. Please excuse me.
Thanks for adding this.,yeah even after watching 5 times there are still new things to discover and new connections to make and you just helped us further...thank you for your comments!👍😉
The song One Million Roses may have possibly played a large role in inspiring this drama's story... Take a look at the full lyrics. What you see in subtitles is only the chorus lyrics as people sing them. There is a My Mister OST youtube video of this song which includes the English translation of this song. Also a slightly different English translation can be found on the givemeslippers fan website. The verse lyrics seem to speak of this story of PDH and Jian. There are 3 verses which talk of someone being born on earth with the mission of loving a true love which will lead to the growth of One Million Roses. That person finally after problems and sadness meets the love that was sent to meet them suddenly as if it rained. As they continue to love unconditionally one million roses bloom and that is what allows them to return to their star. These lyrics are much more about PDH and Jian then JH and the monk it seems to me. Notice also that the last scene with this song in this episode ends with PDH walking home and faintly singing the chorus and then breaking down. Up to that point in his life he has not had a love like that and so no way home to the star. I think in the bar when talks to JH about the 30,000 year old girl he is also talking about himself continuing to be born on earth. He has thought about this alot. See hints in the middle and latter episode 4. After a team meal he talks about how he is like building built over a river bed the year he was born and how it was built in the wrong place because it won't be able to be reconstructed later when it's developed more structural issues. It will have to be torn down. He says he he is like this as he picked the wrong place (earth) to be born and would prefer to not be reborn anywhere. Also, later in episode 4 his wife is talking to the CEO in their apartment they meet at and talks about how he is lonely and makes others lonely. About how she could never make him happy. About how he seemed like someone who lost something but was confused about what that was and how he seemed to feel this world was not where he belonged. This drama is amazing.
And yes there's another connection...really well observed...when you remember these scenes it becomes clearer that he's really also mainly talking about himself...which also shows how much what ji an said resonated with him...thanks for adding that....👍😁
6:32 Acting detail that became a hot topic among Korean drama fans: The right hand in her coat pocket moves as if to say "bye bye," and then she goes home.
///Without a hateful heart/// ///Only when I give love without holding back/// I’ll be able to go back To my beautiful star that I long for.. To me, those lines contain, in a certain way, the concept of sacrificial love, which is the most sublime kind of love. To be willing to give yourself for another, self-effacingly, “just because I want your wellbeing.” Kind of hinting to the core theme of this drama. This is the most meaningful drama I’ve ever watched and I’m so glad you have started this conversation. Please, keep them coming, boss!
Yeah, the lyrics of this song is so meaningful in this context. PDH asks ‘why does she keep getting reborn if this is not her home? How can she go back to her home/ her star? ‘ she replies with the lyrics from this song - ‘without a hateful heart, if you can love without holding back, you can go back to your star’ . LJA starts loving him without holding back 💕 Every scene and every conversation takes the relationship between PDH and LJA forward. I love this drama.
For episode nine it's going to be tough to discuss just one sequence. Stephan you might a well just throw in the towel on this one. Plus, I think I speak for most of us following this series that we would happy if you covered everything... That said, I would love to hear your take on the pivotal sequences when PDH visits Ji An's guardian leading up to his confrontation with Lee Kwang Il. Ji An is feeling a bit rejected by PDH during the episode which makes the final sequence all the more powerful.
(Sorry for my poor English and hope I had expressed my opinion clearly.) In ep 9, I love the scene, LJA and PDH took the subway back to home, LJA was confused about what DJY just said, a man having meals and drinking with a woman may not represent that the man like the woman but PDH do. Caught in her confusion, LJA forgotten getting off the subway. Standing out of the subway car, PDH stared at her and looked like stunned. PDH walked out of the station and hesitated a while, then got in the supermarket nearby. Apparently, PDH was waiting for LJA back to HUGYE station instead of buying fruits for mom. Director gave us so many hints about PDH concerned at LJA more and more, even though he tried to cover up his attempt secretly.
What beats me most in this episode is the mentioned part of this Korean song's lyrics by the owner of the bar. Although I am not sure as you about reencarnation , what it's said in the song makes sense for me, in a way that you cannot "go home" (metaphorically been peaceful) if you have anger and not pure love in your heart. Which is the case of Dong hoon and Ji-An
Just Completed this series 5 minutes ago (Maybe you won't believe it) But thanks for recommending this show I never cried this much in my life till date Looking forward to other shows this please recommend me some
I just watched it again personally with some fast forwards....everything will be a disappointment after this...if you like American dramas I'd recommend better call Saul or breaking bad...something in the rain deals with modern day life problems but it's nowhere near it ...watch my review of my mister...I make a number of movie recommendations that would appeal to you I believe..
@@ManVsDrama Thanks I will watch Something in the rain cause I already watched first season of Breaking Bad and I'm gonna watch these shows some other day
@@dragonprince7 ok just warning you....you might want to murder the mother ....btw ...miseang and signal are by the same director and well worth watching....👍😜
Many people have ask for similar shows but My Mister is one of a kind. For me My Mister and Breaking Bad are the two best dramas in this world and nothing ever came close. If you're looking for a show that is as good as My Mister in term of production, go for Breaking bad or Daredevil, Vikings S1-3, these shows have cold western feels. If you want to watch warm shows like My Mister, I recommend Fated to love you (2014), Mother (2018) or Dear My Friends (2017), Empress Ki (2013) which are some of my top favorite shows in 10 recent years
I really appreciate this thoughtful analysis of Hwaiting\Paiting: ‘Fighting’ (not sure of the pronunciation). Ji An says this to PDH after their walk together and we get the wonderful loop of dialogue at the end of the episode, when she hears PDH say it to himself. Writer Park Hae Young does such a beautiful job of weaving these themes together in time throughout the series. I agree that this is when Ji an really starts to fall for PDH. She’s seeing how the fruits of her actions really impact the people around her for good or for ill and how one little word of encouragement or caring on her part can mean all the difference to someone. Which leads us to a lovely theme in MM, as Stephan pointed out - community. The friendships that offer a refuge, to the harsh and uncaring outside world. Slight Spoiler: The community that meets at Jung Hee’s bar (a kind of Sangha in Buddhism) unconditionally embraces Ji An and gives her a refuge later in the series. Her line that if she is reborn she wants to be reborn in PDH’s neighborhood breaks my heart. I’m also glad Stephan discussed Jung Hee the owner of the bar played so masterfully by actress Oh Na Ra. Her character mirrors Ji An in that they both have a past they wish to break away from. Her lines “I’m a clean woman” and others hint at something traumatic or that she is ashamed of, perhaps when she was in Thailand. I’d love to hear what others think this might be. Ji An and Jung Hee compliment each other beautifully at the end of the series.
yeah great point about Ji An noticing that her words and actions can have a positive impact on others! Honestly...the later scenes when they "take her in" it's very moving to me too and especially how Jung Hee just breaks down her barriers later is perfect! I am not sure about Jung Hee's past...what does everyone else think?
S. Korea can get very cold in winter and we see Ji-an's state of dress. The actress IU got into the habit of applying chemical heating patches to her body to stay warm, up to forty patches applied she said. She'd sometime get 1st degree burns off them. Her next series Hotel Del Luna was filmed in mid summer heat and IU couldn't decided which series shoot was more difficult.
One of the most challenging sides of being an actor or a model....they often also shoot out of season....I once shot a drama that was set in the summer in the winter....it was so cold the main challenge was to keep my jaw from shaking because it was so cold in my summer uniform..😁 give me the heat anytime👍😂
The only thing I don't like about this drama is that after watching it I put my expectations too high on other dramas and ended up disappointed. I can't move on yet. So I really thank you for dedicating your time to regularly discuss it in great detail and passionately. Talking about episode 9, I remember when Sang Hoon imagined what their mother's funeral would be like. That scene was genius, even though in another episode it was a different thing but, still great!
Yes that's a great scene...I'd just watch again from the beginning ...I saw things I didn't see before ...this series actually gets better when you already know the whole story because you can enjoy the character development👍😊
The word 'fighting' was recently added to the Oxford English Dictionary. The OED says: [Origin: Partly formed within English, by conversion. Partly a borrowing from Korean. Etymons: fighting fight v., Korean 'hwaiting'. Esp. in Korea and Korean contexts: expressing encouragement, incitement, or support: ‘Go on!’ ‘Go for it!']
This is definitely one of my favorite episodes. I love the sequence of scenes accompanied by that beautiful song, I think it shows how the characters share sadness in different ways, it makes me think that we should be more empathetic and kind to others because each of us survives our own sadness every day. The message of this drama is so human and hard, that's why I love it. I really like your vides. Sorry for my English.
thanks for adding this...there must a little flexibility with the meaning though right? I've also heard it in a context of "Let's do it" you know when a team start work or something..."way to go" usually means "good job" mmmhh ...any other thoughts?
As i know, fighting is more like "lets go! go!" In this context, it s similar to Chin up or Cheer up rather than Way to go. Fighting is used so commonly, usually at the end of conversation that it often doesn't mean much, but for Jian it means a huge step toward other people. Like her first "Thank you" to DH s friends and Jung Hee in ep 12(?) Best part is DH gave a stunned face at her when other friends took it naturally.
@@ManVsDrama There's no exact English equivalent for the way Koreans use that word. The Japanese equivalent is Ganbatte! (頑張って). In Chinese it's Jiayou! (加油, lit. "add oil!"). What it means is essentially "use more energy". Personally, I think it relates to the East Asian concept of Qi or "inner life force" and saying the phrase "fighting/ganbatte/jaioyou" is a way telling of telling someone to stimulate their inner life force to have more of a fighting spirit. Of course, this sounds convoluted when you spell it out but it's just like how there's no English equivalent for schadenfreude or deja vu.
@@s.h5243 thanks for adding that....this makes a lot of sense..you add a lot of context! I like the expression a lot ..my girlfriend and me have adopted it 👍😎I'll try the Japanese and Chinese on her to see her reaction!
You brought up another interesting but complex cultural aspect on Korea. Age thing and honorific terms, these two make our life so much more tricky i believe. You asked if the age thing is really that serious or only in drama. Even though it s becoming less so nowadays due to westinization and stuff but still in most sectors in society it s a big deal, For example in earlier episodes Jian often talked down to Dong Hoon and that mean female boss at work, which is totally inconceivable in real life. It happens only in drama. ^^;
The original song of "One Million Roses" is a Russian folk song, and the Korean version was sung by one of the most popular female singers in Korea. Her name is Shim Soo-bong. And she is a singer-songwriter, and she wrote the lyrics of the song. ENG Sub ua-cam.com/video/07Aoo594_2s/v-deo.html Live Ver. ua-cam.com/video/z3Lkc8fEsww/v-deo.html And you know that Lee Ji-eun, who played Lee Ji-an, is a singer named IU, right? IU is also a singer-songwriter, and the song "Blooming" later included the lyrics "Do you want to Bloom like a million roses with me, what do you say?"
Aha. Now you are back to reviewing two scenes in one episode. And I like it! 😁 In the next video for Ep. 9, which has multiple great scenes, I hope you will choose at least two --- one of which has got to be the last scene. Hopefully, you will also review the first scene (Ji an rushing back to the missed subway stop). Although I'm not really big on romantic scenes, I find it very touching and heartwarming.
Yeah....but look how long the video was :-) love that scene with the missed stop...it's romantic in a way only My Mister could make it! gonna be tricky! thanks for the request!
@@ManVsDrama I think all viewers don't mind the long video; most, like myself, very much welcome it! Yes, that scene .... no touching, no kissing, no talk of love, barely any eye contact, and yet it is so romantic. This is one of the many things that make this drama so exceptional. Hope you will include it in your next video!
Yes, it's very noticeable...I am often wondering what the impact of that is on society compared to Western world...both positive and negative...do you have thoughts on that?
I know it's a lot quieter.but it should be audible pls listen with headphones ...I'll make it a little louder next time....I am worried about constant copyright claims..I'll experiment a little more..
Thank you for this conversation on my favourite drama. Please come up with your videos at least one every week, otherwise it will take months to come to the last episode 😊 I can’t wait to see what everyone thinks of and interprets the last scene in the last episode. But till we reach there, Thank you for doing this.
Wish you luck; the last episode is pretty easy though, it has to be the last scene. The episodes before that will be tough, there are so many good scenes in each one of them. Good luck and can’t wait 😊
In Korea, the word "fighting" is commonly used at the following cases: 1) Use it to cheer up when you lose an athletic game. 2) It is used to overcome difficult situations together. 3) Use it to wish success before a big event. 4) It means let's do our best. 5) Also used as a pep talk between colleagues. In fact "Fighting" is incorrect use of English. We call these types of misused English words as "Konglish" (Korean-English? :-))
The 30,000 years is a reference to the Buddhist theme of reincarnation. While it could be interpreted as physically having 30,000 different lives, the concept of reincarnation is also interpreted figuratively. We all have instances where something brings us down, depresses us. This cycle of suffering is a repeating one and we are foolish to fall into that same trap, 30,000 times. It is therefore a form of self-criticism of Ji-an and Dong-hoon pities her for being self-critical.
Hey, this isn't about My Mister, but I want to tell you another great drama on Netflix recently! "You are my spring" (www.netflix.com/eg-en/title/81473201) is TV show of studio dragon that created My Mister, and Seo Hyun-Jin from "Another Miss Oh" appears as the heroine. I hope you see it!
It's misreading that, in Korean society, Jeong-hee is considered to be the age when she can no longer get in love with a man. As Dong-hoon's mom said, she could've chosen anyone she wanted in her pub. But, as Jeong-hee is portrayed as a very single-minded character, it is nonsense to say that she was prostituted in Thailand. See nothing happened with Dong-hoon for 15 days when they were in 20's while they were looking for her lover who became a monk?
First of all, great thank for your revew of “my mister” it’s one of my best tv series…. You mentioned “if lee sun kyun sing a song…..” Yeh….He sang a song for drama “1st branch of coffee prince(커피프린스 1호점)” …the song title is “ocean travel(바다여행)” My indivisual opinion is he is great actor but he is not a good singer(이선균님…죄송합니다…ㅠㅠ). I saw on a tv show he sang the song but that song was not what I thought….. Here is the link of the song which lee sun kyun sang….ua-cam.com/video/13YXdmE8BmM/v-deo.html
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An opinion to your question @ 23:22. Age has to do a lot with social pressure.
In Korea, people generally assume that one should be at a certain stage in life by each age group (10s should be studying, 20s should be in college, 30s should be married, etc.)
While this life agenda is not uncommon in other nations, the problem is that many Koreans harshly judge on anyone that does not live along this road.
This age-agenda culture also affects the way many Koreans view Donghun and Jian's relationship as "this age gap should not be romantic".
This is because in most Koreans' minds, the two are in very different stages of life.
Junghee's case is honestly set a bit extreme for ordinary people since she is obsessed with the same man for about 20 years.
But if you sense any "age" issues lingering around her struggles and actually many points in this drama, that is probably why you are seeing that.
Not too say that age-centric society is simply bad, since the drama also notes some of its good parts.
Older adults being more mature and embracing younger generation, younger adult like Jian showing respect to older adult like DH as the story progresses, etc.
(In episode 7, you will see that Jian does not start eating the steamed beef before Donghun takes the first bite.
This is a common sign of respecting the elder, which Jian did not practice in the the eariler dinners with him like in episode 2.)
Yeah that's an interesting detail I noticed too but also notice in other dramas....the eating etiquette and it's hierarchy ...it feels like a stronger theme in Korea than in Europe the age differences....but that may also be influenced by me and who I am surrounded by...social pressure itself seems a stronger factor...thanks for explaining..👍😁
I think there is another point besides the age-based eating hierarchy at the scene you've mentioned. Yes, Jian did not start eating before he took his first bite.
Jian always was the more transparent and expectant side in this relationship. Under the lack of any skinship, eating together was a blessing for her. They shared these special moments even they could not hug or kiss.
Jian knows eating moments are so precious. After Donghun starts to eat, she feels that he also likes her, and her love is not one-sided. So, she starts eating after she feels relaxed.
Thank you for these wonderful reactions, and for bringing together a group of people who similarly appreciate this drama. For the IU fans here, there is a great IU TV episode filmed just after this series wrapped up, and she talks at length about the Dear Moon lyrics (she wrote), and many other thoughts about the drama. One thing I found so touching was how strongly she connected with the JH character - and spoke about trying to love without reserve (no room for hate). For those of you who aren’t already huge IU fans - do yourself a favor and learn more about her and her story. When you realize she was raised by her grandmother in poverty when young - living for a time in a single room with limited food, you then also recognize why her anxiety spiked early in the filming of this drama, leading to her hospitalization. Her performance is truly remarkable. Everything about her is pretty remarkable.
Thank you for adding this and thanks for your comments. i am so glad they managed to convince her to carry on filming! You're right..her performance is incredible.
when she said that if i ever get to be born again i want to be born in this neighborhood as if her real home that Park Dong-hoon thinks she failed to find was there.
Dong-hoon's line at 09:30 is, 'This isn't home, but she keeps mistaking it for home.' It's the nuance of being in the wrong place and wandering around without knowing how to get back home.
In another scene, Dong-hoon and Jung-hee have a similar conversation while drinking. "Why is life so cheap/mean?" "It's cheap/mean because We don't love each other". I don't know how the English subtitles were translated, but the verb 'chisahada' is difficult to translate here. Usually, the dictionary says "cheap," but it has many implications, and it also means "narrow-minded", "stingy" and "ashamed." That is, it is usually used to blame others. Like, 'He's so cheap/mean'. It gives a strange nuance because it is used here about life, not people. Anyway, Jeong-hee's answer to Dong-hoon's comment is that life is miserable because everybody is stingy with love. It matches the lyrics of 'One Million Roses'. IU thinks this is a perfect answer to Dong-hoon's question, and she put the lyrics "Would you like to bloom one million roses with me?" in the song "Blueming" released after filming this drama.
I think this drama has a strong Buddhist color(Dong-hoon is more of a Confucian figure than a Buddhist though). Buddhists aim to stop the pain of being born, old, sick and dying. When I see terms that are used symbolically throughout the drama, such as reincarnation or not being reborn, I naturally think of them.
The funny thing is, Like Ki-hoon said, 'I won't go to the star. It's super boring,' the eldest brother says similar things in the scene where the three brothers drink in a cart bar. When Dong-hoon said, "Let's stop being born again," Sang-hoon said, "It's too bad to stop being born again. What do you do if you're not born? 'It's boring. It's fun to live. I just don't have money though.' Contrary to what Dong-hoon and Ji-an think they don't want to be reborn, they both affirm their current lives. It won't be painful if they're not born again, but there won't be a good time to spend with friends at Jeong-hee's bar. If you don't born and do nothing, you'll be bored and lonely. Everyone has own problems and pain, but they sympathize with each other and comfort each other.
Jian, who even hated spring, said later, "It's okay to be born again. I can be reborn. It's ok', and 'If I were born again, I'd like to be born in this town.' This world can be hell, or a star-land. In Christian terms, 'the kingdom of God is within us.' If you feel like this isn't your home, do love. Then this place will turn into your home, into your star-land.
My English sentences can be a little awkward because I used a translator. Please excuse me.
Thanks for adding this.,yeah even after watching 5 times there are still new things to discover and new connections to make and you just helped us further...thank you for your comments!👍😉
The song One Million Roses may have possibly played a large role in inspiring this drama's story...
Take a look at the full lyrics. What you see in subtitles is only the chorus lyrics as people sing them. There is a My Mister OST youtube video of this song which includes the English translation of this song. Also a slightly different English translation can be found on the givemeslippers fan website.
The verse lyrics seem to speak of this story of PDH and Jian. There are 3 verses which talk of someone being born on earth with the mission of loving a true love which will lead to the growth of One Million Roses. That person finally after problems and sadness meets the love that was sent to meet them suddenly as if it rained. As they continue to love unconditionally one million roses bloom and that is what allows them to return to their star.
These lyrics are much more about PDH and Jian then JH and the monk it seems to me. Notice also that the last scene with this song in this episode ends with PDH walking home and faintly singing the chorus and then breaking down. Up to that point in his life he has not had a love like that and so no way home to the star.
I think in the bar when talks to JH about the 30,000 year old girl he is also talking about himself continuing to be born on earth. He has thought about this alot. See hints in the middle and latter episode 4.
After a team meal he talks about how he is like building built over a river bed the year he was born and how it was built in the wrong place because it won't be able to be reconstructed later when it's developed more structural issues. It will have to be torn down. He says he he is like this as he picked the wrong place (earth) to be born and would prefer to not be reborn anywhere.
Also, later in episode 4 his wife is talking to the CEO in their apartment they meet at and talks about how he is lonely and makes others lonely. About how she could never make him happy. About how he seemed like someone who lost something but was confused about what that was and how he seemed to feel this world was not where he belonged.
This drama is amazing.
And yes there's another connection...really well observed...when you remember these scenes it becomes clearer that he's really also mainly talking about himself...which also shows how much what ji an said resonated with him...thanks for adding that....👍😁
Thanks for breaking down the song. My take is that Ji An and PDH are in fact soul mates.
6:32 Acting detail that became a hot topic among Korean drama fans: The right hand in her coat pocket moves as if to say "bye bye," and then she goes home.
Why did that become a hot topic? Does it have special meaning in Korea?
///Without a hateful heart/// ///Only when I give love without holding back/// I’ll be able to go back To my beautiful star that I long for..
To me, those lines contain, in a certain way, the concept of sacrificial love, which is the most sublime kind of love. To be willing to give yourself for another, self-effacingly, “just because I want your wellbeing.” Kind of hinting to the core theme of this drama.
This is the most meaningful drama I’ve ever watched and I’m so glad you have started this conversation. Please, keep them coming, boss!
Absolutely..the song is perfect for this moment...and makes a lot of sense for this drama..👍😎
Yeah, the lyrics of this song is so meaningful in this context. PDH asks ‘why does she keep getting reborn if this is not her home? How can she go back to her home/ her star? ‘ she replies with the lyrics from this song - ‘without a hateful heart, if you can love without holding back, you can go back to your star’ .
LJA starts loving him without holding back 💕
Every scene and every conversation takes the relationship between PDH and LJA forward. I love this drama.
Well said.
For episode nine it's going to be tough to discuss just one sequence. Stephan you might a well just throw in the towel on this one. Plus, I think I speak for most of us following this series that we would happy if you covered everything... That said, I would love to hear your take on the pivotal sequences when PDH visits Ji An's guardian leading up to his confrontation with Lee Kwang Il. Ji An is feeling a bit rejected by PDH during the episode which makes the final sequence all the more powerful.
(Sorry for my poor English and hope I had expressed my opinion clearly.)
In ep 9, I love the scene, LJA and PDH took the subway back to home, LJA was confused about what DJY just said, a man having meals and drinking with a woman may not represent that the man like the woman but PDH do.
Caught in her confusion, LJA forgotten getting off the subway. Standing out of the subway car, PDH stared at her and looked like stunned. PDH walked out of the station and hesitated a while, then got in the supermarket nearby. Apparently, PDH was waiting for LJA back to HUGYE station instead of buying fruits for mom.
Director gave us so many hints about PDH concerned at LJA more and more, even though he tried to cover up his attempt secretly.
What beats me most in this episode is the mentioned part of this Korean song's lyrics by the owner of the bar. Although I am not sure as you about reencarnation , what it's said in the song makes sense for me, in a way that you cannot "go home" (metaphorically been peaceful) if you have anger and not pure love in your heart. Which is the case of Dong hoon and Ji-An
Just Completed this series 5 minutes ago (Maybe you won't believe it) But thanks for recommending this show
I never cried this much in my life till date Looking forward to other shows this please recommend me some
I just watched it again personally with some fast forwards....everything will be a disappointment after this...if you like American dramas I'd recommend better call Saul or breaking bad...something in the rain deals with modern day life problems but it's nowhere near it ...watch my review of my mister...I make a number of movie recommendations that would appeal to you I believe..
@@ManVsDrama Thanks
I will watch Something in the rain cause
I already watched first season of Breaking Bad and I'm gonna watch these shows some other day
@@dragonprince7 ok just warning you....you might want to murder the mother ....btw ...miseang and signal are by the same director and well worth watching....👍😜
@@ManVsDrama Okay I will try them
Many people have ask for similar shows but My Mister is one of a kind. For me My Mister and Breaking Bad are the two best dramas in this world and nothing ever came close. If you're looking for a show that is as good as My Mister in term of production, go for Breaking bad or Daredevil, Vikings S1-3, these shows have cold western feels. If you want to watch warm shows like My Mister, I recommend Fated to love you (2014), Mother (2018) or Dear My Friends (2017), Empress Ki (2013) which are some of my top favorite shows in 10 recent years
Can’t wait to see the next ep reaction
Thanks..I'll keep them coming..thanks for being a part of it!
I really appreciate this thoughtful analysis of Hwaiting\Paiting: ‘Fighting’ (not sure of the pronunciation). Ji An says this to PDH after their walk together and we get the wonderful loop of dialogue at the end of the episode, when she hears PDH say it to himself. Writer Park Hae Young does such a beautiful job of weaving these themes together in time throughout the series. I agree that this is when Ji an really starts to fall for PDH. She’s seeing how the fruits of her actions really impact the people around her for good or for ill and how one little word of encouragement or caring on her part can mean all the difference to someone. Which leads us to a lovely theme in MM, as Stephan pointed out - community. The friendships that offer a refuge, to the harsh and uncaring outside world. Slight Spoiler: The community that meets at Jung Hee’s bar (a kind of Sangha in Buddhism) unconditionally embraces Ji An and gives her a refuge later in the series. Her line that if she is reborn she wants to be reborn in PDH’s neighborhood breaks my heart.
I’m also glad Stephan discussed Jung Hee the owner of the bar played so masterfully by
actress Oh Na Ra. Her character mirrors Ji An in that they both have a past they wish to break away from. Her lines “I’m a clean woman” and others hint at something traumatic or that she is ashamed of, perhaps when she was in Thailand. I’d love to hear what others think this might be. Ji An and Jung Hee compliment each other beautifully at the end of the series.
yeah great point about Ji An noticing that her words and actions can have a positive impact on others! Honestly...the later scenes when they "take her in" it's very moving to me too and especially how Jung Hee just breaks down her barriers later is perfect! I am not sure about Jung Hee's past...what does everyone else think?
@@ManVsDrama I agree, Jung Hee is in a perfect place to understand and care for Ji An, the female
aspect of PDH.
@@ManVsDrama Thinking more about this, I think it may be sex work on her part when she was abroad.
S. Korea can get very cold in winter and we see Ji-an's state of dress. The actress IU got into the habit of applying chemical heating patches to her body to stay warm, up to forty patches applied she said. She'd sometime get 1st degree burns off them. Her next series Hotel Del Luna was filmed in mid summer heat and IU couldn't decided which series shoot was more difficult.
One of the most challenging sides of being an actor or a model....they often also shoot out of season....I once shot a drama that was set in the summer in the winter....it was so cold the main challenge was to keep my jaw from shaking because it was so cold in my summer uniform..😁 give me the heat anytime👍😂
It was another great review Thank you so much for you time and energy I really enjoyed it
Fighting!!!
Thanks man ✊😎
The only thing I don't like about this drama is that after watching it I put my expectations too high on other dramas and ended up disappointed. I can't move on yet. So I really thank you for dedicating your time to regularly discuss it in great detail and passionately.
Talking about episode 9, I remember when Sang Hoon imagined what their mother's funeral would be like. That scene was genius, even though in another episode it was a different thing but, still great!
Yes that's a great scene...I'd just watch again from the beginning ...I saw things I didn't see before ...this series actually gets better when you already know the whole story because you can enjoy the character development👍😊
@@ManVsDramaYeah, I'm curious what ”new things” did you find after watching it again, see you next Tuesday 🤔😊
The word 'fighting' was recently added to the Oxford English Dictionary. The OED says: [Origin: Partly formed within English, by conversion. Partly a borrowing from Korean. Etymons: fighting fight v., Korean 'hwaiting'. Esp. in Korea and Korean contexts: expressing encouragement, incitement, or support: ‘Go on!’ ‘Go for it!']
Episode 8 is my favorite episode. So many good scenes.
So true...it's literally one after the other in this one! Stick around for the next one! 👍😀
This is definitely one of my favorite episodes. I love the sequence of scenes accompanied by that beautiful song, I think it shows how the characters share sadness in different ways, it makes me think that we should be more empathetic and kind to others because each of us survives our own sadness every day. The message of this drama is so human and hard, that's why I love it. I really like your vides. Sorry for my English.
Thank you so much! It's true...it builds empathy this sequence and connects the main characters struggles...btw...Your English is perfect.👍😉
In Korea, "fighting" means "way to go!"
thanks for adding this...there must a little flexibility with the meaning though right? I've also heard it in a context of "Let's do it" you know when a team start work or something..."way to go" usually means "good job" mmmhh ...any other thoughts?
As i know, fighting is more like "lets go! go!" In this context, it s similar to Chin up or Cheer up rather than Way to go. Fighting is used so commonly, usually at the end of conversation that it often doesn't mean much, but for Jian it means a huge step toward other people. Like her first "Thank you" to DH s friends and Jung Hee in ep 12(?) Best part is DH gave a stunned face at her when other friends took it naturally.
@@petitgarcon9675 yeah it feels like a massive shift somehow doesn't it? Thanks for adding that👍😎
@@ManVsDrama There's no exact English equivalent for the way Koreans use that word.
The Japanese equivalent is Ganbatte! (頑張って). In Chinese it's Jiayou! (加油, lit. "add oil!").
What it means is essentially "use more energy".
Personally, I think it relates to the East Asian concept of Qi or "inner life force" and saying the phrase "fighting/ganbatte/jaioyou" is a way telling of telling someone to stimulate their inner life force to have more of a fighting spirit. Of course, this sounds convoluted when you spell it out but it's just like how there's no English equivalent for schadenfreude or deja vu.
@@s.h5243 thanks for adding that....this makes a lot of sense..you add a lot of context! I like the expression a lot ..my girlfriend and me have adopted it 👍😎I'll try the Japanese and Chinese on her to see her reaction!
You brought up another interesting but complex cultural aspect on Korea. Age thing and honorific terms, these two make our life so much more tricky i believe. You asked if the age thing is really that serious or only in drama. Even though it s becoming less so nowadays due to westinization and stuff but still in most sectors in society it s a big deal, For example in earlier episodes Jian often talked down to Dong Hoon and that mean female boss at work, which is totally inconceivable in real life. It happens only in drama. ^^;
The original song of "One Million Roses" is a Russian folk song, and the Korean version was sung by one of the most popular female singers in Korea. Her name is Shim Soo-bong. And she is a singer-songwriter, and she wrote the lyrics of the song.
ENG Sub ua-cam.com/video/07Aoo594_2s/v-deo.html
Live Ver. ua-cam.com/video/z3Lkc8fEsww/v-deo.html
And you know that Lee Ji-eun, who played Lee Ji-an, is a singer named IU, right? IU is also a singer-songwriter, and the song "Blooming" later included the lyrics "Do you want to Bloom like a million roses with me, what do you say?"
Aha. Now you are back to reviewing two scenes in one episode. And I like it! 😁 In the next video for Ep. 9, which has multiple great scenes, I hope you will choose at least two --- one of which has got to be the last scene. Hopefully, you will also review the first scene (Ji an rushing back to the missed subway stop). Although I'm not really big on romantic scenes, I find it very touching and heartwarming.
Yeah....but look how long the video was :-) love that scene with the missed stop...it's romantic in a way only My Mister could make it! gonna be tricky! thanks for the request!
@@ManVsDrama I think all viewers don't mind the long video; most, like myself, very much welcome it! Yes, that scene .... no touching, no kissing, no talk of love, barely any eye contact, and yet it is so romantic. This is one of the many things that make this drama so exceptional. Hope you will include it in your next video!
@@ManVsDrama episode 9 is my favorite episode. Please take your time… even if you have to make another video
Ive realized I need to rewatch this show after watching your breakdown. Thank you
BTW... I really enjoy ur videos regarding my mister...excellent...
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Fighting means in Korean "Cheer up" as well as "Struggle and get over it." Including "It would be alright"
Thanks for adding this!
Enjoyed this analysis from my 'Box' and Melancholy existence. Fortunately only a University aged son to take care of.
"fighting" can also mean "lets be diligent"
Thank you so much
love your reaction
Thanks for letting me know! 👍😎
I'd like to visit my friend and drink tonight.
In Japanese they have similar word called "Ganbatte", which means "Hang in there", "Do your best", "Brace Up", or "Endure it".
Oh really ..that's interesting gotta ask my girlfriend! 👍😜
in korea age is very important..u have to respect elders..if not for accomplishments...just age itself..
Yes, it's very noticeable...I am often wondering what the impact of that is on society compared to Western world...both positive and negative...do you have thoughts on that?
one thing though...after ur comments, when we are looking at the drama on ur screen, we cant hear anything..
I know it's a lot quieter.but it should be audible pls listen with headphones ...I'll make it a little louder next time....I am worried about constant copyright claims..I'll experiment a little more..
Thank you for this conversation on my favourite drama. Please come up with your videos at least one every week, otherwise it will take months to come to the last episode 😊 I can’t wait to see what everyone thinks of and interprets the last scene in the last episode.
But till we reach there, Thank you for doing this.
I can't even think of which scenes to focus on in the last eipsode....wish me luck! I'll try to get there as soon as I can!👍😉
Wish you luck; the last episode is pretty easy though, it has to be the last scene. The episodes before that will be tough, there are so many good scenes in each one of them. Good luck and can’t wait 😊
@@deepikaghosh7824 well well well..there's a funeral...there's a goodbye there's all kinds...haha not gonna be as easy as you say! :-)
I like scenes where people meet, not where they leave 😞. I hate goodbyes and funerals ( also goodbye). Please select the happy one, let’s be happy! 😀
Me, after having watched too much anime back in the day: "Aww, she gave him a ganbatte!"
In Korea, the word "fighting" is commonly used at the following cases:
1) Use it to cheer up when you lose an athletic game.
2) It is used to overcome difficult situations together.
3) Use it to wish success before a big event.
4) It means let's do our best.
5) Also used as a pep talk between colleagues.
In fact "Fighting" is incorrect use of English. We call these types of misused English words as "Konglish" (Korean-English? :-))
Yeah it may be incorrect but it makes a lot of sense! 👊😉 Thanks for adding this!
The 30,000 years is a reference to the Buddhist theme of reincarnation. While it could be interpreted as physically having 30,000 different lives, the concept of reincarnation is also interpreted figuratively. We all have instances where something brings us down, depresses us. This cycle of suffering is a repeating one and we are foolish to fall into that same trap, 30,000 times. It is therefore a form of self-criticism of Ji-an and Dong-hoon pities her for being self-critical.
Thank you for adding this...the self criticism aspect makes a lot of sense and really adds meaning👍🙂
Hey, this isn't about My Mister, but I want to tell you another great drama on Netflix recently! "You are my spring" (www.netflix.com/eg-en/title/81473201) is TV show of studio dragon that created My Mister, and Seo Hyun-Jin from "Another Miss Oh" appears as the heroine. I hope you see it!
It's misreading that, in Korean society, Jeong-hee is considered to be the age when she can no longer get in love with a man. As Dong-hoon's mom said, she could've chosen anyone she wanted in her pub. But, as Jeong-hee is portrayed as a very single-minded character, it is nonsense to say that she was prostituted in Thailand. See nothing happened with Dong-hoon for 15 days when they were in 20's while they were looking for her lover who became a monk?
Didn't really understand that. did someone suggest she was a prostitute in thailand?? I've never heard that.?
@@ManVsDrama Yes, my comment was about the comment somewhere down there.
First of all, great thank for your revew of “my mister” it’s one of my best tv series….
You mentioned “if lee sun kyun sing a song…..”
Yeh….He sang a song for drama “1st branch of coffee prince(커피프린스 1호점)” …the song title is “ocean travel(바다여행)”
My indivisual opinion is he is great actor but he is not a good singer(이선균님…죄송합니다…ㅠㅠ).
I saw on a tv show he sang the song but that song was not what I thought…..
Here is the link of the song which lee sun kyun sang….ua-cam.com/video/13YXdmE8BmM/v-deo.html
thanks for this. sorry just found this!
Based on what Yu-ra said, I wonder if there is polygamy in Korea? Is it legal?