What makes a perfect kick drum?

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  • Опубліковано 30 вер 2024

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  • @OscarUnderdog
    @OscarUnderdog  2 роки тому

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  • @peterelfman
    @peterelfman 2 роки тому +57

    I can't overstate how much of a learning experience this has been. All of your videos that I have seen so far have managed to expand what I understand by providing just a tiny bit more knowledge that somehow covers an enormous conceptual gap of understanding. I honestly don't' know how you choose your topics for these videos, but you're finding a niche and filling it remarkably well. Again, thank you for taking the time to put this together!

  • @SzilvayPeter
    @SzilvayPeter 2 роки тому +39

    Man, you keep addressing my most important questions without me asking! I was literally searching for the opportunity to ask about your kicks because they're always so good! And the kickdrums topic in general is indeed a very important one. Thanks for all this!

  • @MadMosquito1
    @MadMosquito1 2 роки тому +17

    Just a small suggestion: could you try to limit the volume of your keyboard in the mix? Especially for a video like this, it‘s a bit distracting

  • @nnuae
    @nnuae 2 роки тому +30

    I've watched dozens of videos of producers creating drum loops and only understood half of what they're saying.
    I feel like this tutorial arms amateurs with the knowledge needed to actually take advantage of the rest of the educational content out there. It was very needed.
    Thank you!

  • @AutPen38
    @AutPen38 2 роки тому +19

    I was impressed at how quickly you could identify what was special about each of these kicks, especially with regard to whether they hit you in the chest or the gut. I can usually only categorize them as "usable" or "rubbish".

    • @B0K1T0
      @B0K1T0 2 роки тому +1

      I can usually only crank up the distortion and categorize it as "ALLES NAAR DE KLOTEEEEE"

    • @BreakzTerrorist
      @BreakzTerrorist 2 роки тому

      cause you are noob and he's professional, simple as that. No rocket science

    • @ItsWesSmithYo
      @ItsWesSmithYo 9 місяців тому

      Really usable = chest, usable = gut, have to listen 2x = rubbish 😂 u got this friend 🫶

  • @musicandme4839
    @musicandme4839 2 роки тому +2

    Man thanks for posting stuff like this! Your keyboard noise blurs the transients of the kicks tho :(

  • @DARTYM-ch6gy
    @DARTYM-ch6gy 2 роки тому +10

    He is a great teacher in producing of music, I have took a course the industrial techno, it's really great course and excellent approach. Recommending this course who is like techno! Appreciate it Oscar for this course!

  • @MikeS-1969
    @MikeS-1969 2 роки тому +6

    Very useful, to the point and educational. Thank you.
    One small comment. Try to suppress the sound of you tapping the keyboard while playing the sounds for auditioning. It can get a little distracting at times.

    • @Nova_Afterglow
      @Nova_Afterglow 2 роки тому

      I came here to say this. The constant keyboard clicks made it hard to really focus on the pure kick sound. I made it about 8 min in before i gave up. I feel next time if you do this for claps or snares try and not record the audio of the keyboard and just dub in a voice over later.

    • @MikeS-1969
      @MikeS-1969 2 роки тому

      @@Nova_Afterglowthat would actually be ideal , but if it requires a lot of time ...can just sidechain compress the voice-over by the audio coming from the DAW and/or use a cardioid microphone.

  • @dante7228
    @dante7228 Рік тому +7

    You're really amazingly good at explaining whatever topic you decide to cover.
    I guess it's because you probably also love to dance, so you're feeling the music instead of only understanding or listening to it.
    Thank you for all your amazing content!

  • @Amistriotis
    @Amistriotis Рік тому +2

    This is brilliant... A real poem. Thank you for this... thing. I will most probably not make a kick drum, ever but I think this is precious anyway!
    ^_^

  • @KrisCadwell
    @KrisCadwell 2 роки тому +4

    I found this helpful. If you did a similar video for snares I would watch it.

  • @tomsorbma
    @tomsorbma 2 роки тому +8

    Always like your content. A good follow on from this would be a deep dive into the replationship between different styled kicks (poppy/deep/long tail/short) and complimenting basslines.

    • @IntiPeruCinema
      @IntiPeruCinema 2 роки тому

      + 1

    • @AuggyM
      @AuggyM Рік тому

      Ooo like a (specific) ‘rumble-tasting’ party/workshop , but covering general kick practices in different genres would be great to cover too!

  • @AuggyM
    @AuggyM Рік тому +1

    Oscar, LOVE your vids. You always inspire and encourage me to learn more w/ EM production!
    I really appreciated this video. However, I have a sprinkle of constructive criticism for you: ESP with this vid where u are tasting the kicks and replaying them in fast successions, could you find a way to mute or dim the sound of your keyboard clicks? The vid is still successful, but I found that the clicks slightly took me away from fully experiencing kicks. Esp w/ the kicks that have rumbles and tails that have mid-high(er) textures and frequencies.
    Sounds SUPER nitpicks, I’m so sorry; but hey, sound is the bread n butter of music production. 🤓
    Thank you Oscar, for your extremely valuable vids, keep at it💯

  • @bwrp7977
    @bwrp7977 2 роки тому +1

    Would love to be able to hear the kicks better but unfortunately the obnoxious clacking of your mechanical keyboard (?) is mixed in with the audio.

  • @jacobmiller9885
    @jacobmiller9885 2 роки тому +1

    Dude… this would have been WAY better if the mouse click was excluded when hearing the samples.

  • @TommiBenders
    @TommiBenders 2 роки тому +1

    Really interesting video, but the clicks of your keyboard are distracting AF

  • @rioceron4101
    @rioceron4101 Рік тому +1

    Amazing... as always! Thanx! You are brilliant 🖖🏿👽👌🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿

  • @Elnufo
    @Elnufo 2 роки тому +1

    too much keyboard klickery to hear nuances in the samples, especialy the klick/ attack. sad.

  • @karlstenator
    @karlstenator 2 роки тому +2

    Great video. I've been asking Ableton Live developers for years now to have the Library indexer index the long string in the "Info Text" panel - so that, imagine you typed out your description of each of these samples in their info panel - live would index it, and then searching those words would return the item you're describing. Instead, they created 7 coloured categories and called it a day. FML. 😩 The custom Info Text is accessed via right-clicking a sample/VST within your session. The info text also seems to "stick" to the sample if you place it into your User Library then re-use it.

  •  2 роки тому +5

    I spent 3 hours listening to kick samples yesterday. Perfect timing.

  • @hanspeters1796
    @hanspeters1796 2 роки тому +2

    If you can pick from like 10 billions of kicks, why would you need a "versatile" kick?

    • @HOLLASOUNDS
      @HOLLASOUNDS 2 роки тому +1

      I have kicks that fit into Techno, Hiphop, Drum and bass.

    • @hummahumma3585
      @hummahumma3585 2 роки тому +2

      Because you don't have time to go through 10 billions of kicks before starting each new track 🙂

    • @HOLLASOUNDS
      @HOLLASOUNDS 2 роки тому

      @@hummahumma3585 Honestly takes literally a few minuts to find a kick because I'll just EQ the drums anyway and use distortion.

  • @willievaughn6474
    @willievaughn6474 Рік тому +1

    Beautiful, amazing you are. Thank you

  • @ild4099
    @ild4099 2 роки тому +1

    Do a tutorial on making hardcore/gabber kicks

  • @amaxlevin
    @amaxlevin 2 роки тому +2

    Wow! You're definitely in the right business, brother. You've really exposed the unique personality of each kick. Amazing information ⚡⚡

  • @shalesetty6790
    @shalesetty6790 2 роки тому +2

    Appreciate this Oscar. You describing how these kicks hit the body (chest v gut) explains their impact in such an effective way. I didn’t realize it but I’ve been dividing sounds this way subconsciously.

  • @CatFish107
    @CatFish107 3 місяці тому

    I like this analogy. To take the next step, although there are entire galaxies of texture, flavour, and quality available in retail wine, brewing one's own has benefits not otherwise available.
    Love to patch different percussion from scratch. I appreciate learning the tasting terminology. Very helpful, even as a diy brewer / eurocrack addict.
    My favorite software drum is Trummor2 by Vult in vcv rack. So many sound sculpting parameters, and it spits out a copy of the amplitude envelope, which is very handy for ducking.

  • @redpeople2192
    @redpeople2192 2 роки тому +1

    ...be mindful, not careful... - great advice.
    As always a joy to watch and learn from. I love how you are so respectful when listening to every kick.
    As an aside, I had always EQed out the low end of kicks to make space for the bass. Should I (in general) side chain the bass instead and leave the kick's low end?

  • @sherenko11
    @sherenko11 10 місяців тому

    Hello Oscar , thankyou fot gr8 education videos ! What us the name of tha track in the beagining of this video? Imprasive stuff!!
    Thankyou about all!!!

  • @MrJansteiner
    @MrJansteiner 2 роки тому +1

    Perfect topic. Which has indeed puzzled and intrigued me loads at times. Thank you for discussing it here. 👍

  • @SecretCailev
    @SecretCailev 2 роки тому +2

    Love your nails! I hate doing them myself. Im so bad and it gets messy lol. But what coincidence! I was just looking for some kick tutorials. How lovely! ♥

  • @morsymusic
    @morsymusic 11 місяців тому

    Love this video! Quick question, have the majority of these kicks already been tagged with the Key on them or did you have to manually add the Key to each kick? Also does anyone know if Mixed In Key or another company has an app to automatically tag the Key's to single kick hits?

  • @Calpasofficial
    @Calpasofficial 2 роки тому +1

    Can you make so tutorial like this just for techno kicks? Because I'm struggling with the transients. Don't get it like the big artists like Ramon tapia or hi-lo... Would be suuuuper cool and thanks for your tutorials!

  • @Capeau
    @Capeau Рік тому +1

    click & repeat 09:09

  • @gannein
    @gannein 2 роки тому +3

    I didnt even watched the video but liked it already. Excellent concept and fine skills to teach complex concepts. Well done Oscar and thank you !

    • @HOLLASOUNDS
      @HOLLASOUNDS 2 роки тому +2

      Its actually better for the youtuber that you like mid way through the video because if you like a vid straight after clicking on it UA-cam does not count it as in the algorithm.

    • @gannein
      @gannein 2 роки тому +1

      @@HOLLASOUNDS hello you ! Thank you for the heads up ;)

    • @HOLLASOUNDS
      @HOLLASOUNDS 2 роки тому

      @@gannein 😀

  • @JoelLinus
    @JoelLinus 2 роки тому +3

    The Recondite Kick at 22:18 would be perfect for Industrial, quite Lo Fi but also white noisy, you can put a Reverb on it to freeze it infront of the white noise sound via automation, so that the white noise is audible throughout the whole track until you unfreeze it.

    • @lisotunali3807
      @lisotunali3807 2 роки тому +1

      who is stopping you? :D (i can send you the kick if you want it)

    • @JoelLinus
      @JoelLinus 2 роки тому

      @@lisotunali3807 Hell yea

  • @treyhudson73
    @treyhudson73 2 роки тому +1

    As a wine professional, I'm already intrigued...
    As someone with at least 300 kick samples, I'm hoping to purge most if I can! After all, can't we tweek them like a MOFO?

  • @lottalakshmi
    @lottalakshmi 11 місяців тому

    Great video! It would maybe be nice if you’d put a little gate on your mic, so we wouldn’t here all the clicks of your mouse and keyboard..

  • @Reallifejourney388
    @Reallifejourney388 9 місяців тому +1

    Thanks again😊

  • @adv8nturenick
    @adv8nturenick 6 місяців тому

    Is it best to just learn how to make your own kicks, or spend hours going through thousands of samples? Great content by the way, thank you

  • @cryptout
    @cryptout 2 роки тому +1

    Yooo Oscar, bedank voor de code! I had this on my radar for a while, especially for Babicz's contribution to the sample pack but it was to expensive. BTW, trying to recreate a kick with Kick2 is a good exercise.

  • @patrickrowe6745
    @patrickrowe6745 Рік тому +1

    I'm not sure why you chose to be the 'UNDERDOG' maybe with another name, your subscription numbers would be way up up. You deserve a much bigger support numbers. YOUR ARE ABSOLUTELY ONE OF THE BESTEST on UA-cam

  • @adtmsc
    @adtmsc 2 роки тому +2

    This was SO useful, as a beginner producer this is the EXACT video i've been looking for, in order to proceed comfortably with my first projects

    • @kookiespace
      @kookiespace 2 роки тому +1

      good luck and have fun :)

  • @jonborno8550
    @jonborno8550 11 місяців тому

    the sounds your keyboard makes a really annoying :( sad - otherwise a very interesting video

  • @BobbyPMusicBitcoinGaming
    @BobbyPMusicBitcoinGaming Рік тому

    Lovely wine tasting of kicks! Subscribed!

  • @averyintelligence
    @averyintelligence 6 місяців тому

    TIP: if u struggle to find kicks just go to splice and use the most popular ones in ur genre.

  • @Sm4rtS.L1nk
    @Sm4rtS.L1nk 2 роки тому +1

    Whats the banger in the intro background?

    • @OscarUnderdog
      @OscarUnderdog  2 роки тому +1

      Torc, my techno project, follow on soundcloud 😁

  • @uberanmino
    @uberanmino 2 роки тому +1

    I think doing this is really useful since it becomes easier to recognice what kicks are used for which types of songs when u listen to music

  • @kunkmaster79
    @kunkmaster79 2 роки тому

    Good content , only thing that annoyed me was that Spacebar sound 😁

  • @coolscube5062
    @coolscube5062 2 роки тому

    Good info Tutorial was more interested in the color you chose for your nails ??!!

  • @tresporros
    @tresporros 2 роки тому +1

    in old times, with AKAI MPC, I loved to tune every kick sample....mostly down, but you can turn so so kick into beautiful beast...it makes a big difference when down tuning samples (kick especially)

    • @KenshoBeats
      @KenshoBeats 2 роки тому

      Agreed 👍🏼 let the magical mpc converters do their work

  • @Anders01
    @Anders01 Рік тому

    Great review and sample pack. I will check it out.

  • @jerosajose
    @jerosajose 3 дні тому

    Zack Edward's lost twin

  • @ResetRobot1
    @ResetRobot1 2 роки тому +1

    Glad to see one of mine made the cut 😅

  • @weyamusic
    @weyamusic Рік тому

    The way you describe all these kicks makes them sound delicious

  • @luciferianjesuslover9453
    @luciferianjesuslover9453 2 роки тому +1

    Wine tasting for kicks. Love it!

  • @InVacuo
    @InVacuo Рік тому +1

    That was a lot more enjoyable than I expected 😅

  • @Bthelick
    @Bthelick 2 роки тому

    Did my last video inspire you Oscar??? I literally just did a vid on this topic!

  • @vinsonjames
    @vinsonjames Рік тому

    5:20 He figured out how they made the arrow sound effect from minecraft lmao.

  • @CatFish107
    @CatFish107 3 місяці тому

    90 Hz fundamental, piped through a cheap joyo pocket metal pedal, then an octaver, then a compressor. Just mangle the snot out of that kick, and forget the low end initially.

    • @CatFish107
      @CatFish107 3 місяці тому

      Make phone speakers clip, lol.

  • @pclairoot
    @pclairoot 2 роки тому

    Quoi? un Flamouthc qui parle de pinard? Way to go Oscar.

  • @KenoBeatZ
    @KenoBeatZ 2 роки тому

    Interesting Bassology !
    Thanks 🍷

  • @TrippyTechnologyMusic
    @TrippyTechnologyMusic 2 роки тому

    when you pulled up kick2 i actually cheer'd lol great plug

  • @diogocunha4674
    @diogocunha4674 Рік тому +1

    U re the feeling behind the technique

  • @shpongled587
    @shpongled587 2 роки тому

    No more wine spit bucket bouquets for me, I guess.

  • @Luraka1978
    @Luraka1978 2 роки тому +1

    This is definitely an AD dude 😆

    • @OscarUnderdog
      @OscarUnderdog  2 роки тому +1

      I literally spent time Googling what an “A D dude” meant 😅 I’m a bit slow. Well if its an ad its a good deal for audiotent cause i didnt get paid a dime, i even bought the samples with me own money.

  • @MaRi-yr1rs
    @MaRi-yr1rs 2 роки тому

    Alt + spacebar to play only the selected part of the sample

  • @Bangers_mostly
    @Bangers_mostly 10 місяців тому

    Hey Oscar!
    Perhaps you or some of your other viewers can help me!
    What order do you recommend a beginner watches your videos in?
    I'm brand new to production and I've just watched the 'First Hour of Making Electronic Music' video which was incredibly helpful. I'd love to subscribe to your course but it's a bit pricey for the time being so I'm relying on your UA-cam videos.
    I'm just trying to understand simple structures and song progressions, so videos Like Hi Hat strategies (gears) and Syncopation are super helpful because they tell me where to place those notes.
    However, I've been jumping around - for example, I started with Dotted Bassline then half way through switched to the Moroder's Bassline video, then to Learn Any Synth, to Subtractive Synth, to finally this video. I feel like I should have done that in completely opposite order.
    Please help a newbie out :)
    P.S I've commented this on your other posts, I don't mean to spam you, I'm just hoping some views would chime in.

    • @TheChameleon2008
      @TheChameleon2008 7 місяців тому

      Please dont ever pay for these course since most the info can be indeed found for free on better channels or you use yandex to search for the things google wont show you.

  • @blackcurrantbitter8608
    @blackcurrantbitter8608 2 роки тому

    ben sims or dj rush tutorial plz!!!

  • @damienwoods5744
    @damienwoods5744 2 роки тому +1

    Love the channel but such a shame about the keyboard noise on this one Oscar.

    • @MrSihill
      @MrSihill 2 роки тому +1

      need a soft keys keyboard for sure. Great video regardless.

  • @adamntbk
    @adamntbk Рік тому

    Listening to the space bar key

  • @alice10888
    @alice10888 2 роки тому

    Thank you for this video, you touch on very needed subjects. Really appreciate how you explain things ina very tangible way. A small minor thing - whenever you play the samples, there is this background chugging noise that is a bit distracting.

  • @DaddaPsy
    @DaddaPsy 2 роки тому +1

    Great video! When demonstrating transients, it could be helpful to just highlight the specific area you want to show and hit Ctrl+Space, that way we will only hear the part we should focus on =)

    • @adrenakrohm
      @adrenakrohm 2 роки тому

      What are you doing here? 😁

    • @DaddaPsy
      @DaddaPsy 2 роки тому

      @@adrenakrohm I don't know, I'll show myself out. There's no place for psytrance here

  • @ArthurElectric
    @ArthurElectric 2 роки тому

    Or you make your own with hardware.

  • @DafterHindi
    @DafterHindi Рік тому

    we need this video but for snares

  • @CorboWill
    @CorboWill Рік тому

    your spacebar sounds great

  • @DelasVC
    @DelasVC 2 роки тому +1

    Nice vid. I wanna say though that kickdrums are probably the most complex part of a dance track. There are details to a kickdrum and how it work and where it's individual parts have to sit that are simply not talked about _at all_ in my experience. At least not on anything that can be found on YT.

    • @imbombur
      @imbombur 2 роки тому

      How do you know it’s a nice vid when it was just posted 🧐

    • @rossmitchell4352
      @rossmitchell4352 2 роки тому

      @@imbombur 😂. Caught.

    • @DelasVC
      @DelasVC 2 роки тому +1

      Cause what I've seen so far already highlights some good points.

  • @tothefinlandstation
    @tothefinlandstation 2 роки тому

    You talked about winetasting for kicks, and called one red, but where are the whites, or sparklings, or rosés? Joking aside, probably worth thinking or talking about the acoustic properties of real physical kick drums even if you aren't going to ever use samples of acoustic kick drums in your music.

  • @lifecat8
    @lifecat8 2 роки тому

    I bought the pack. All in all it is good. But the Robert babicz ones sound very similar kinda exactly the same, but different in length. And there is a bleeding from a drumloop in it aswell. I didn't listen to all of them yet, but there are very good kicks in it. I would recommend it too.

  • @Artek604
    @Artek604 2 роки тому

    This was awesome - thak you!!! :)

  • @DanielD.mp3
    @DanielD.mp3 2 роки тому

    i'm crediting this video for single handedly creating kick drum ASMR

  • @jayeyoungson3483
    @jayeyoungson3483 2 роки тому

    Thank you for the video, perhaps a demonstration on what to do with the layering, (chopping them to suite) or even what sounds to match the naughty drum kick layers with... He ehe

  • @kookiespace
    @kookiespace 2 роки тому

    Wow, thank you so much for this video!
    I recently played my first public live set \o/ and I came away from it thinking that my kick drums really needed some work :D

  • @iamnio2869
    @iamnio2869 2 роки тому

    Amazing!!!
    And until when is it possible to take advantage of the coupon discount?

  • @rolfedrengen
    @rolfedrengen 2 роки тому

    There's only one collection of EDM kicks, and here it is: drive.google.com/file/d/1Dw8rSJLsihAjAufv7dfUrUpn4_qDqUCb/view?usp=sharing

  • @Dubsize-D66
    @Dubsize-D66 Рік тому

    Thanks mate thats so helpfull. Wanted to make a drum rack with kicks as a preset and noticed i dont know when a kick sounds good for the kind of music i make. Every kick was somehow good in some scenario but i could not make a good selection based on my needs. That will help alot

  • @Hermit_
    @Hermit_ 2 роки тому

    If u wanna techno, vengeance club sounds 3 => trance or club kicks, time stretch to fit your bpm. do nothing to it and you 're good. rumble is already on there too.

  • @MeeBilt
    @MeeBilt 2 роки тому

    Awesome video! So much useful information - I feel like a kick connoisseur 🍷🧀

  • @ARCASIAUK
    @ARCASIAUK Рік тому

    Great video. I produce dnb and find it difficult making kick drums without the click and body sounding totally disconnected. I use kick 2 but I wondered if there was a library of transients and clicks I could download to test out

  • @christiantaylor1495
    @christiantaylor1495 2 роки тому

    It's a lot easier to just make our own kicks. So many people assume it's really difficult when it's literally the easiest thing to learn to sound design.

  • @tresporros
    @tresporros 2 роки тому +1

    I do remember times when swapping KICK samples on AKAI MPC 3000:) over and over and couldn;t decide which one to take... now I got Roland TR8 and I get the kick I want in a second...it's simply choice between 808/909/707/606 and 808 and 909 variations - plus decay and tune and attack knob - it saves me hell of the time when choosing right kick for the job, important fact is house/techno edm, dance music - kick is 99% 4 to 4, so not much combination with groove, but to choose a good kick for the job is important thing. Great video by Oscar as always!

    • @marcosrotllan
      @marcosrotllan 2 роки тому +1

      I was thinking about doing exactly the same. Still doubting between tr6s and 8s.

    • @tresporros
      @tresporros 2 роки тому +1

      @@marcosrotllan I got tr8 as this is THE DRUM MACHINE:), where tr6s and tr8s are something in between, a bit of a synth, sequencer, sample player...menu diving kills music...:) TR8 got no save/load, no menu diving at all, its just WYSIWYG, improved form of original ROland TR808/909 - with faders and 2 f/x, and audio interface, and SC input:). I like instruments without menu, my eyes are getting bad:/

    • @adv8nturenick
      @adv8nturenick 6 місяців тому

      @tresporros Have you got the plugin version?

  • @starkid9736
    @starkid9736 2 роки тому

    yeah, skipping the drum samples for hours,like back in those impulse tracker days

  • @rybotekk
    @rybotekk 2 роки тому

    Watched with big pleasure. Thankyou.

  • @jtr11095
    @jtr11095 2 роки тому

    You should’ve slowed down the master tempo to slowly hear the kicks with the 2 parts going on. Great video!

  • @russianvoodoo
    @russianvoodoo 2 роки тому

    btw Tejada is spelled tekhada as a last name of a Spanish origin. I just know iw because I love this dude and I have nothing else useful to say.

  • @aegean_444
    @aegean_444 2 роки тому

    You're amazing, it's so well explained, thank you !

  • @wodanswil
    @wodanswil 2 роки тому

    Hallo Oskar, I'm having so much fun learning stuff on your channel.

  • @Kazidgeridoo
    @Kazidgeridoo 2 роки тому

    I agree with another commenter that the keyboard clicks are distracting when trying to listen to the kicks. Other than that the video is fantastic!

  • @HOLLASOUNDS
    @HOLLASOUNDS 2 роки тому

    There is no perfect kick it's what ever fits your track, most wack kicks or drums sound dope with distortion anyway.

  • @stephanechataignie
    @stephanechataignie 2 роки тому

    How did you learn to analyze samples so finely ? 😲
    Master Oscar 🙏