I have had a total of 7 injections over the past 6 years. The one I had in 2017 lasted until a few weeks ago so I went for another one today. I also go to my chiropractor every 2 weeks. The worst my pain has ever gotten was in 2017 when I could not walk for 6 days, I had to literally crawl to the bathroom. People how have never lived with pain like this don’t understand what it does to you mentally. I have given induced birth with no pain meds and let me tell you giving birth was a cake walk compared to my back pain. All I can say is the injections have given me most of my life back and I am very happy about that
Man here so never given birth lol but I agree. I have a bulging disc pinching a nerve in my low back and OMG it's the worst pain ever. I've literally had to drag myself up the stairs at night after any sort of walking or physical activity. It's killing my spirit. I am very physically active and I haven't been able to lift weights or go to jiu jitsu. I have an epidural scheduled for the 21st of this month. Praying it helps.
I definitely know the pain you're talking about. I have a lot of pain that radiates from my lumber region also in the low sacrum area. My legs are gone!!! I haven't been able to walk in 8 months. Can't seem to lift my legs. I also have really bad neck pain that radiates into my arms and hands. I just had my 3rd spine injection two were in the L5 and the last one was in the sacrum area and I've had no relief from any of the injections.
Excellent video content! Sorry for butting in, I would love your initial thoughts. Have you heard about - Liamwaan Soothing Enlightenment (do a search on google)? It is an awesome one off guide for wiping out back pain and sciatica in 3 minutes without the hard work. Ive heard some pretty good things about it and my close friend Aubrey after a lifetime of fighting got great success with it.
I have a L-4 & L-5 herniated disc for years. Diagnosed correctly last year on MRI. Miserable pain at my job as a nurse. Miserable pain at home. Gabapentin for several months but the side effects sucks. So they did a trigger point and it kicked in within a day last for approximately 2 months. BEST TWO MONTHS PAIN FEAR SINCE 2008! Just wore off today so calling tomorrow to see what we do next. In the time I was pain fear was able to workout and make PT exercise a part of my routine. So great!
I've had steroid injections for severe back pain about 6 years ago. I felt some relief after the first one. Then I went in every 4 months or so, then twice a year. That was 2 years ago and I've had no pain since then. Miraculous!
An X-ray showed I have Degenerative Disc Disease would this injection work? I’m in so much pain when I get out of bed I feel like my lower back is going to crack and I can’t stand up straight
@@mannygonzalez7987 If your pain is going into other parts of your body. Like legs too yes. I'm on days 2 after my injection. My shooting pains have stopped. Doing basic things like walking I'm ok with so far. Getting in and out of bed no problem. But I'm also a Athletic person. So I'm waiting to build my strength up and try a slow run. Praying i do and have no pain from it. But most definitely it will help with pain. You just need to be patient and get to see a professional and have this done. If you need anymore information. Plz ask, because I'm learning as I go along to live with a damage disk on my nerve.
@@sultantipu5896 after my last post the pain come bck within a week. then I went back just last week for another set of lumbar injections in my back. Now I can walk straight with less pain. With naproxen ontop. I think stretches chiropractor regular sports massage will help. But it's a think unfortunately u have to manage for life.. it's horrible because people don't understand.. I never post nothing private about myself. But if I can share information that will help others like me and yourself all so I can learn. I'm glad too. If theres anything you want to share do so plz if can help I will. Take care
I received my first injection this past Monday. I definitely felt the steriods going in but other than that everything went fine. I rested Tuesday felt 100% better yesterday and today. I hope to get at least 6 months of pain relief from this injection.
I’m currently suffering from a herniated disc right now. I’m 24 years old and have just now found a doctor who is willing to listen to me and helped me figure this out. My first doctor who came highly recommended blew me off because of my age. I literally spent $5,000 on a trip to Florida for me and my wife and had to cancel because I blew my back out and couldn’t even walk. You tell doctors that and they just say take some ibuprofen you’ll be fine. Anyway hopefully this procedure works at least temporarily so I can return to everyday life.
Hey I know it’s been 2 years, but how are you doing now? I’ve had a slipped disk with several pinched nerves found in both legs- from knees all the way down to the feet. I was 21 years old when it started and I’m 24 and just got my injections. I’m really sorry that doctor was crappy towards you
I just had a seizure from the injection 😢 passed out 😢. So now im losing confidence. I had a laminectomy. It help relieve pain from 10 to a 6 but still constant pain😢 i wish i should have just stayed with chiropractic care
I had this recommended and reluctantly took shot 2 months ago for pain from a herniated L5-S1 . Procedure went fine, no pain.. 3 days after and since I've had all of the gnarly symptoms related to sciatica. I had zero sciatica symptoms prior. The feelings have overshadowed the original pain from the herniation. The doc said it wouldnt fix anything but may make space for some healing while I did P.T., she did not tell me anything about adverse affects. I am not trying to discourage anyone, I just wish I had listened to my gut and not taken something questionable that wasn't even f@#$ing necessary. I would trade these feelings for my worst back pain in an instant. Best of luck to all looking for relief and find yourself a GOOD doctor that explains procedures and their risks.
I hurt so bad. I had a Epidural steroid shot in my lower lombar last Friday for herniated disc. I have server night cramps on my lower right side from my back to my toes. I get 10 days of this torture that last most of the night. I have the medication Doctor gave but they do nothing. I have never been in this much pain. I just pray that this will be wort it
@@angelaemmens9235 I’m curious how this worked for you I’m scheduled for epidural steroids this coming Wednesday the 11th 2024. I’m not concerned anything’s gotta be better than this pain. Let us know how it worked out thank you
@@darrenbarmby8685 experience was fine no issues but has worn off now sadly just waiting for an appointment for a 2nd injection - it is a bit ‘hit and miss’ as I understand it but when I had the relief oh my goodness incredible for me! Good luck 🤞
How has it been? Was the injection really painful in the back? Have you gotten relief from it for a good bit of time? Herniated a disc some how and have been in so much pain for two months
@@dick8997 sorry for the delay. I am going in on monday for another injection, last one helped for over 4 weeks. The best thing that i did was get a surgical implant called a vertiflex procedure took 45 minutes and I have great relief.
@@larrymachaj7977 yea I think I'm about to be in that boat. Idn what I did to my self. Only thing I can think of was going over handlebars at motocross track at start of season re broke plated collar bone. Think I crushed disk at the same time. Freaking pain just constantly all the way down the left leg
I’ve had this procedure before but it wasn’t explained to me this well. I’m going in for another one next week so I thought I’d do a little bit of research. My doctor is trying to figure out the best treatment plan because I have worsening arthritis pain in my lower spine, along with multiple herniated desks, and chronic pelvic pain. He just did a bilateral L3-4, L4-5, L5-S1 facet for lumbar spondylitis. Fingers crossed that I get some relief. Thank you for this amazing video. I feel more prepared to handle what’s coming my way.
@melody hallelujah Are you a Doctor or what is your Profession ? I was changed from Dexamethisone 4 years ago, with the worse Psychossis lasting 2-3 years of living pain Dead and suicide was not a excape of being in a box under ground and can't breath calling for help, i knew i would not get , for i was unable to think of any thing but How or when i would get out of an ever lasting HELL FIRE. This in Gods name is no joke and why God allowed me to take that injection. today i feel some recovery and hope God is doing it. i also had bone pain Adrenal and induced cushings like syndrome. my Doctor said i did caused from Dexamethisone. He will not ever have me take the vaccine for my adrenal glands and immune had enough. Said some thing about my brain fat loss do to steroid.
I had mine 8 days ago. Needles don't bother me and didn't that day. When the steroid was injected tho it felt like my leg (the one that had been hurting so bad) was on fire from the inside. It was a horrible pain. I wrapped my arms around the table clinching it and just dealt with it because I knew I needed to be still. They used no sedation. Afterwards the Dr sat me up really quick to show me the images on the computer screen. I felt like I was in shock. I've had 3 c-sections (where I could feel some of the pain) and a tracheal resection which is a huge surgery so I don't think my pain was just from me being a wimp. I told my family I would never do that again. Then the nurse came in and told me I could leave. I drove myself home, they knew this as I had asked if I needed someone to come drive me and they said no. All that being said, the pain is 99% gone at this moment so now I know I did the right thing. I'm still trying to learn how to walk correctly as I had been walking slumped over with one leg sideways for several months. Now I just hope this took care of the problem for good. I really wish I had an answer for why it burned so horribly as the steroid was injected. The Dr acted like it was abnormal but gave me no explanation why I had the burning sensation.
I had mine yesterday and I experienced burning in my left leg, too. It was nothing unbearable, but certainly unpleasant. My back is feeling better now but it is really sore at injection site. Hopefully that eases up soon.
Jennifer Singleton 8 months later and I'm still not normal. I can function but I'm in pain 90% of the time but the pain is nothing near what it was before the epidural. It's mainly my right leg that hurts, very rarely does my back hurt. I bought an inversion table and I believe that's what has kept me from needing to get another epidural, I really don't want to do that again. I've recently been put on Gabapentin and that seems to help some too. I hope one day to be pain free but I'm going on a year of pain now so I'm not too sure about that. I hope you continue to do well.
I had mine in 2017 and cried like a baby..It was so painful but pain went away so quick after the injection and I was able to walk again...slipped disk patient
I have had three and two of them helped me. None of the three injections were painful. I was told the doctors put the medicine in slowly to avoid discomfort. Mine were done by two different docs and they both did the same. I was in and out of there in no time. Looks like it might be time for another one.
Iv had this done the 1st one did not really do anything it lasted 3 months n then l was in pain that much l could not walk l was in and out of hospital l had my 2end ones after 3 months n thay worked I had my last ones 10 days ago n it's not working l suffa with back pain and sitica n mucel spams in my legs iv got to go back in 3 months l can see it being a op if these last ones don't work so it dose work n it dose not work
Thank you mines is on this Wednesday and this was helpful C3/C4/C7 is causing me so much pain so this is my last result before another major surgery like my C5-C6 I feel so weak hopefully it works
Did you all know that Epidural Steroid Injections (ESI's) for back pain are not approved by the FDA?... and did you know that because of their unproven Safety and Efficacy record, ESI's are not approved by any Health Authority anywhere on the planet?... and did you know that an independent FDA advisory panel back in 2014 voted 15 to 7 to have ESI's banned because of serious medical event reports including death?... but the FDA said "NO" anyway! Did you also know that one year earlier in 2013 Pfizer had asked the FDA to ban their steroid Depo-Medrol (Methylprednisolone Acetate) for ESI's at all levels of the spine for the same safety reasons and yet again the FDA said "NO" because of Stock Market fears? Be smart, stay informed... a message from the EDNC.
I've been in pain 2 years finally having a nerve block to l5 in a couple of weeks it hasnt been explained to me yet that's why I'm here I've been on gabapentin which I'm convinced are causing me chest pain.i long to be able to walk without crouching over and to be able to walk pain free .
I’m in the same situation as you, L5-S1 DDD nerve block, causing sciatica pain down the left leg, and some weakness. I know what you’re going through and it sucks. I’m only 24 and this makes it feel like life is slipping by day by day, just waiting for it to be over.
2:51 Any answers? Guesses? Before I had surgery, a lumbar laminectomy for left buttock and leg pain (not neuropathy) tried lumbar epidural injections. Needle going in caused caused so much pain shooting right through whole length of sciatic nerve. But that resolved quickly and I was pain free for 3 months. But when injection wore off BOTH feet and legs became instruments of constant neuropathic pain and walking became impossible. No answer from surgeon, neurologist, pain management docs, massage, rest, exercise and stretches, icing, Icy Hot, and I don’t have diabetes or had treatment for cancer. I’m now 2 1/2 months post surgery (which I was hoping would resolve neuropathic pain) and 9 months post injections. Any feedback would be appreciated.
I suffered herniated disc and pinched nerves in both arms and legs from a car collision. I got the back injection a few weeks ago and I must say I felt almost immediate relief in my lower back.. I was sore at the injection site for a few days but it wasn’t as bad as I thought it would be. I’m just glad to have at least temporary relief for the time being..
@@shonuff515 Good. I have a herniated disc in my lower back and I'm experiencing some discomfort in my lower back when I sit or lay down and some nerve pain in my lower leg below my knee. I've improved a lot pain wise but still experiencing it. I am unsure whether to get the injections or not.
@@TheBradleyd1146 I know that feeling all too well. Hang in there.. I’ve had 2 injections in my lower lumbar say about 6 months apart and I’ve been good so far with the help of Flexeril and physical therapy..
Good for the profit margin. My dad had a month worth of benefit and that was it. I have lumbar issues from years as an electrician. I recently decided not to have this procedure based on so many people I have talked to about. And I also found out this is not FDA approved. Considering the FDA and their track record not approving this makes it a bigger no.
Had mine two days ago. Went really well without sedation. L3/L4 & L4/L5. Procedure took 15-20 minutes. A bit of pain up to 4-6 hours afterwards, minor numbness down my leg for the evening and overnight. Second morning, awoke with hip and leg pain, but back felt good. Once up and around, hip and leg pain subsides. Primary reason is for sciatica relief especially when driving or sitting for extended period of time. Cannot drive more than 1/2 hour in car without crushing pain and discomfort down back of leg and around to groin area. Hope this procedure provides relief. Not sure the many critical comments about this procedure are warranted as long as you are not getting it done by a quack. Real test will be next week (about 7 days after procedure) when I drive to my son’s house 1 hr. away. Was apprehensive and nervous about procedure, but now having done it, I will do a second or third injection if condition warrants without fear.
Hope all goes well for you mate , truly . Thank you for your honest and succinct post ; too many people on here are either spreading disinformation or are inarticulate but you speak frankly and honestly which helps as I have a family member about to receive these injections too . All the best mate from Australia 🇦🇺
@@venztower939 Follow-up: Back injection seemed to help with pain. Went from about a 6/7 down to 2/3, but has returned ?to before injection pain levels 3 months later. In the interrum, have had a steroid hip injection as well since a subsequent MRI shows a labral tear and hamstring tendonopothy causing my pain and discomfort while driving. Doctor thinks they may be two seperate issues. Rather than do repeat steroid injections, we are moving on to radiofrequency denervation where they burn the nerves causing the pain. The nerves will most likely grow back but this procedure may well provide 1-2 years of relief without subjecting me to multiple steroid injections every 3 months. Will treat leg and hamstring problem afterwards as seperate medical issue. Fix one thing at a time.
@@RJMEL24 Hope you are recovering well from the operation if you did it. My doctor recommended epidural but it seems from many experience it only soothes the nerves a couple months at best. I’m apprehensive about it and in big pain. Don’t know what to do, pleas help
@@andyl9900 had a ryzotomy done and didn’t do as well as expected. Doctor then diagnosed hip bursitis and gave me a steroid shot in hip. Pain disappeared in hip and leg almost immediately and still pain free two weeks later. Still have minor stiffness and pain in back in mornings which I think is mostly arthritis. Once I get going in the morning, it subsides and am feeling better than I have in a few years.
@@RJMEL24 glad your situation has improved my man. My mri shows a l5-s1 nerve being pinched causing leg pain and big toe weakness. My daily function has drastically deteriorated due to the pain. Doctor suggest ESI then surgery, you think this will give me my life back?
I just had the done 24 hrs ago in my hip and back feels awsome I feel a difference I could use a little more in my hip area but we will see how long it last...
Ive taken oxy 5’s and use lidocaine patches. It works best although the pain pills don’t work as much since I’ve taken them for 18 years. The steroid injections helped for pain I didn’t realize I had but didn’t help at the surgery sight
Its amazing how this doctor in the video didn't mention about the risk of getting a spine leakage causing a spinal headache which i got last month when i went for an epidural because of my herniated disc. Worst experience ever for me and i will never ever take another epidural in my life. I had massive headaches that i couldn't stand up i had to be layed in my bed for over a week. I thought the headaches would go aways after some days but it never did. I had to go to the hospital and get a procedure calles a blood patch. Thanks god after that procedure i felt great again. People i highly recommend to not take that chance with an epidural because I don't wish what i had on anybody. Get trigger points over that dangerous epidural shot
@@andyl9900 Epidurals rarely lead to CSF leaks (5 in 100,000 patients). My advice is when you're looking around at doctors to manage your pain, ask them about the risks and what the process is if something bad like a leak occurs. If they dismiss it, don't continue seeing them. If they say they'll be available immediately to fix it if it occurs, then trust your doctor. Do your research of course for any physician you see and trust your gut. If you do go the surgery route, ask your surgeon about artificial discs before fusion. Ask them if you're qualified for an articial disc, and of course, consult with multiple surgeons before trusting just one.... I've been dealing with my back issues since Aug 2020 and it's always taken me a few doctors to find one that I trust and that isn't a narcissistic ass. I hope anyone who reads this finds relief soon :( Back pain is no joke...
I would like to know why you don’t discuss that these are not FDA approved for use in spine. The product packaging says not to be se in spinal area. It has caused adhesive Aracnoiditis in hundreds, of not 1000’s of people, it degenerates you bones faster, has caused paralysis and death as well. It only works in a very low percentage of patients 20-30% yet we are all being pushed into doing this dangerous procedure! Several year ago there was a batch that was not sterile and caused severe infections for 100’s of people.
Have you had this procedure done? My doctor is really pushing for but I am really reluctant after reading your comment. He or the clinic never mentioned these side effects. He said their might be a chance of infection but it is very rare.
My doctor used ultrasound for injection in the SI JOINT. Felt very hot that night, cramping toe, chronic anxiety. He used DEPA MADRAL. What medication do you use because I haven't heard it.
I have had 2 sets of injections to m back and they have made me worse, my question is can the cortisone be flushed out of my spine as I am feeling unable to walk as a result of the injections
@@DallasBryant-rw1oh They do it wrong some times, or its just getting rid of pain but still doing other damage that is not noticed for many till they drop or drop in pain.
@@DallasBryant-rw1oh I hope a lot of people won't be hurting in the future. Many that push hard on Steroids that hurt other people and don't care to research should take it first and better not be a placebo . but then i don't really want any one to go through this. May be they do it wrong or some thing else.
Did you mention FDA has not approved epidural steroids for back injections or that a class warning on steroids was issued for serious neurological events in 2014 by FDA including stroke, paraplegia, quadriplegia, and death?
I had my epidural steroid injection August 24th... it's August 30th and no relief as of yet. My Dr. said I'd have relief in 3 days so I'm very disappointed. I was really looking forward to being able to do normal things for a while without pain. Just my experience.
Thank you for this very informative video! Been getting injections for years (facet, trigger and epidural) alternating between my back and neck. Sometimes it’s a hit, sometimes a miss 😤😩 Today I got (I believe) bilateral cervical steroid injection (I hope I have the names right-neck-upper back area) But like today as a few other times I could feel the wire pushing through, wasn’t too painful just slight discomfort (strange feeling) the whole top of my back/close to my neck is tender and a little sore. Hoping I’ll feel a little better from the procedure tomorrow and that this time it’s a HIT instead of a MISS 🤞🤞🤞🤞
My Doctor recommended this injection for me, but I'm bit worried it wouldn't help. I'm experiencing numbing, tingling, cramps in my feet, legs feel heavy. I'm waiting to be diagnosed, my Doctor thinks I mostly have varicose veins. I will be grateful for any feedback.
You may have spinal fluid leak and needed a blood patch....please do research ...arachnoiditis is no fun and might be linked to doing this...and trust me is NOOO fun which happened to me after I had this done
I had my upper back and oh my God I screamed cuz it hurts so much I felt like he had busted into something else had a all day headache really bad I ended up in the emergency room and the doctor said that I need to go back within 2 days but it was spelled on a Friday and the same thing they said about getting some blood patches but I don't know what that would feel like
@@laurarivera1992 that’s why is very important to get second or 3 opinion. If you have a great insurance they will tell you to get as much medicine they could . They make money from it
I am on my second injection. This is painful. I’m experiencing numbness in my legs and feet. I can’t cross my legs or put pressure under my feet without feeling numb. I still can’t stand or walk far. I’m talking walking a half a mile. Now I have to start cervical injection.
look into radiofrequency..that procedure is a bit painful but soooo worth it when it helps with issues like this.i had it done and ive been feeling good for two years now.(although 2 year results arent typical,usually it lasts shorter.ive been lucky)
I just had my 2nd injection and I'm now in serious pain. My arms are on fire and the nerves are firing off like crazy. It's going into my legs as well and I'm living in hell right now.
Had a steroid injection over two years ago fixed my lower back problem then now I have some mild lumba stenosis having another soon I am happy with this treatment because of my age I won’t go surgery unless I have to cheers🙏with respect run your own race and goodluck😁
Im glad im hoping its as effective as your last one or better! Im getting my first one soon im just hoping it will help. Its very frustrating the times between these mutiple dr appointments and of course they dont wanna give pain meds, but these back pains are no joke. Its just frustrating
I had 1st epidural injections two weeks ago and haven’t felt any improvement, I have a herniated disk L5-S1, in a week I’m having the 2nd shot, hopefully should feel improvement…
I have lower back pain. My doc is like what ever you ask he will write you down. From a friend I found out cortisone injections will help with pain in lower back. Now I came a cross of different therapies. Prolotherapy! Cortisone injection, prp and stem cells? I am confused which one should I go with for a better and longer lasting result and benefit? I am 28yrs of age by the way and play football, weight lifting. Please share your knowledge and experience so I can make the right decision. Regards
I just had one done yesterday. Now the disks aren't tight or inflamed. But I'm definitely suffering from nerve damage from the shot. I'm running for lyrica, transdermal patches, and iced cream. The next step is surgery. Does anyone know how long this nightmare will last?
I was in a car accident 2 years ago.Me and my disabled mother were T-boned...I fractured my L4-L5 I've had 4 injections I hasn't really helped at all🤦😥
@@DallasBryant-rw1oh So many people out that died in pain and not here to warn us. i have seen 100s on utube going through this suffering and dying of suicide for escape or just dying. God give us Grace and please find what we don't know.
@@trafficjon400 seems like a hit or miss.. my surgeon won’t operate on me unless I try the epidural first. What do you think, bail or hope for the best?
@@andyl9900 You keep looking around and asking friends or people about it. FDA Did not approve the steroid for many years and the epidural is one it did not approve by finding 1000s Sick or for life. i won't get near a steroid again if possible. some or many human hormones blood type seem to allow it with no negative effects.Dont play a chance on your hormones unless you know your dna or what ever can recover from man made hormones reacting over natural ones.
Same here as far as pain after shot. Pain last for about a week or longer. Just had my 3rd injection no relief from any of the shots. First 2 injections were in the L5. The 3rd was in my sacrum area.
I had my first injection 10 days ago and I have to say it has relieved most of my back pain but not completely. Is it a matter of giving it more time to make the effect or should I consider getting a 2nd one?
Got it Friday didn’t help at all more pain then before 🤦♀️And they called me waiting to do another 6 no way!! It might help someone else but it didn’t help me I didn’t even get any temporary relief 😞
This just masks the pain like pain meds though. Plus it can and usually does cause bone loss or brittle bones. So when it wears off, your pain comes back, 10 fold. I’ve never had relief from injections and I’ll never do it again. It’s all about that money, honey...doctors do NOT care that you’re suffering.
Masks pain if surgery will not work.. that most people like....most people will never experience that horror of pain.....the us government is killing off pain patients.. I know
I agree ! When I didn’t have insurance the dr told me . Take Advil you will be fine , your body will heal itself I and do some physical therapy. With insurance the dr was in hurry to give me 2 epidural injection for my back pain . He told me not side effects and your pain will be gone ! And when I said I will look for second opinion he got mad and told me good luck !
@@ninavanina8455 I have the same experience as you, except my spine surgeon says he won’t do surgery on me unless I try the injection first. I think it’s all about the money for them. The healthcare system in the US is evil.
@@Naturegirl1976 I'm supposed to get one next week for thoracic stenosis. Kinda nervous. I've had in lumbar l5 disc protrusion but not t11 t12 😔. Hope it works 🤞 for stenosis
Exactly the steriods detoriate your bones. The doctors should be doing surgery rather then injections for ones needing it. Ins companies don't want to pay for surgery unless you can not walk and even then they don't want to
How can Doctors do this to patients...? It states right on the bottle..of medicine "NOT" for spinal injection..Intramuscular injection "ONLY" there never has been any medicine approved for spinal injections... I pity anyone who develops Adhesive Arachnoiditis when these injections are not done properly...
One thing you didn't mention:. I've had this procedure 3X. After each one my brain became completely confused. I typically experienced chronic pain about 20yrs. After the injection, I couldn't find any pain anywhere. While this sounds great; my brain still flipped out about not being able to locate any of it; even though I knew on some level, it was obviously the steroid doing it's trick. Just couldn't wrapy head around it. It was last one just the opposite direction for being hit in the back by a hammer & I just don't know how to describe that. Still grateful however. Even if it means moving into my 4th back surgery that are really brutal as hell, very neutral. Pray for me!
There are 3 ways to tackle this, injections which lasts some time and consecutive injections live shorter, operation which can last as long as injections or even longer but the pain will come again eventually due to instability created by operation and last is just living a strictly healthy and antiinflammatory life with sun with moderate exercises. And with the last one you can delay this more but yes it can hit again. This is the dilemma of the patient. Once the homeostasis is gone and with age it goes away, there is not much to do as far as i can see. One can ask if the other is still painfree and correlates with his/her state but unfortunately our bodies are unique and an orthopedics intervention cannot do much. There is no single bullet to take away joint/muscle/nerve pain. My comment is not really relevant for autoimmune people. They have a different context.
How are Epidural Injections used to relieve pain? Epidural Injections are a very common treatment to help patients with back pain, sciatica or radicular pain. This may feel like pain coming from your back and shooting down your leg. Dr. Nikesh Seth, managing partner at Integrated Pain Consultants, talks about what an Epidural Injection is all about. An Epidural Injection is when a specific type of needle is placed into the epidural space in the spine. The Epidural space holds many nerves that leave the spine and go down your leg.
I feel like a lot of people have various results. Steroids help with inflammation. I don't think this injection is an answer for everyone. If dealing with inflammation issues causing the pain to worsen it sounds worth a shot (pun intended). Otherwise maybe seek alternatives.
It truly wasn’t as bad as I anticipated. Was it highly uncomfortable due to lying on my stomach and getting shots? Sure, but the actual procedure was okay. I did experience some burning in my left leg, but I just dealt with it and it was over soon. I did see stars for a few seconds, but that also wore off. This morning my pain level in my back has decreased enough that it’s noticeable. My injection site is very sore though, but that was to be expected. I’d say all in all- so far so good.
I was kicked in my back at fifteen. I'm 26 now both legs go numb all the time now I have a physically demanding job handling freight 30 to 50 lbs boxes all the time im worried if I go see doctors they will tell me I can't work. I need my back to not hurt anymore and if anyone is reading this who has had this problem and it was fixed with injections so they could go back to work let me know please been feeling hopeless lately anyone out there back to heavy lifting after this treatments?
RC 1994 why wasn’t it taken care of when you were 15? Since you didn’t I’m sure your nerves have been permanently damaged thus the numbness. Have you consulted a spine specialist? If anything you need to see what’s going on, a steroid shot will not fix your problem trust me. If anythjng f you even researched it’s quite dangerous if the doctor isn’t competent enough and misses the spot your life is over.
@@imscared8396i went to emergency room back then they told me I would need surgery back then but my parents basically left me on my own Ive been working on getting my dental work takin Care since i haven't been in to the dentist in like 13 years paying cash to have that done. Been working on getting insurance so I can possibly go see a specialist to get me outta this pain.
RC 1994 I feel bad my brother for your pain i can’t believe your parents didn’t have a form of insurance to cover your expenses for the surgery because now you’re gonna living with the consequences for the rest of your life. You can’t apply for medi-cal or any government assistance?
There is no way i could do heavy back work and my pain isnt that bad. Bad backs and heavy lifting are just impossible without pain and spasms. Need a new job
i had on and off back problems for 14 years. The pain would always go away, bulging disc. With my back in a weakened state i took on work for a good customer that i should have passed up. now i have a burst disc. my guess is you will eventually burst your disc and be in a whole new world of hurt. i wish you could find a good paying job that was easier on your back, good luck. stuck in a couch awaiting my shot.
I have degenerative disc disease/herniated disc and Aetna just DENIED my injection. What can I do to get them to approve it. He prescribed oxycodone but I'm afraid to take them
Just a heads up I was prescribed Oxycodone in 2009 and never thought I would become addicted. It happened and almost ruined my life. 7 years of addiction. I have been clean since August 15, 2015. Saying this out of love do not take pain pills. I am on my way to have a steroid injection and I am so nervous. Husband driving me now while I am typing this. Praying God stops this if this is not for me. Suffer the pain. I'm praying for you.
@@pennysmith4503 Thanks Penny. I work in the addiction and mental health field so I'm aware of the disease. I'm currently 7 years clean from alcohol and Marijuana. I got rid of the medication and told him not to prescribe them to me anymore, we have to find another solution. Hppe your injection goes well. Keep me updated
@@owhynot2341 Amen on trashing them. God is good like that. 😁 Congratulations on your sobriety. I'm in the surgery center now. Thank you for replying back. I will definitely let you know how it goes. And maybe ask my doctor at next appointment how to get yours approved. Doctor's office usually can find a way and work around insurance
Take them you need them take them as prescribed and no more than you are prescribed. You will be tempted to take more because of the relief that you will feel. Most people who are in horrible condition and horrible pain can’t get a dr. To write them a fda approved pain medication because of “opiate” epidemic. They used to over write pain medication and when it became a problem instead of taking the correct measurements to curb the problem they did a full 180 and they ripped people who were living a better quality of life with their pain medication and turned them to the street to find another way to get relief. Now you go to the dr. In pain and they write you psych medication that’s not appropriate for pain management. Take the pills and be smart. Be grateful for the fact that you have a dr. That is giving you a valid pain reliever for your pain. Others are are killing their liver with ibuprofen,others putting their actual life at risk during this exact procedure to get any kind of relief. The pills are way safer and will help you immensely.
Btw I am a recovered heroin addict and I know how hard it is to get off of medication that you don’t need but just because they say it’s non addictive doesn’t mean it is. I’m more physically dependent on a mood stabilizer I was incorrectly diagnosed with a mood disorder and I actually have adhd and am on the right medication now but I go three days with a non narcotic non addictive medication and I am sick as a dog with horrible symptoms from withdrawals.. fancy that but they don’t tell you that. Everyone is different and if you’re in pain then take the correct medication correctly and you won’t have a problem. You think the person who responded about going into surgery but being clean isn’t going to get a morphine iv drip is a fucking liar and the black white mentality is hurting people who need help. SMH.
It is best in this case to NOT hold back. Just raise your fat arse up off the bed a little and let it go. Piss if done properly should go over every thing in sight as well as the doctor and his assistants. You should groan loudly at the same time and crack a HUGE fart whilst saying I think that my waters have broken. All this activity will be sure to make you a very popular patient in the hospital of your choice.
My incontinence is from multiple pinched nerves in the Lumbar Spine . It prevents you from getting the message that you need to go. My damage is too advanced for surgery so pull-ups it is. Good luck.
Thank God I never got it!!!!!. This doesn't treat the problem only covers the issue for a period of time. I started with a horrible sciatic pinched nerve due to bulged discs on my lower back till 1 day I couldn't walk any more. I went to see a specialist he was gonna cut me open and shave the nerve or I could choose the epidural. A day before I came across a chiropractor who after 6 months fixed me up. I been issue and pain free for 10 years and I became a state champion minimalist runner. I say do your research.
@Doris Dickson epidurals are steroids and steroids raise blood pressure and heart rate. I know because I have heart problems and I discussed the side effects with my neurosurgeon and they said there’s a chance it could aggravate my heart. So you’re wrong.
@Doris Dickson here I’ll even provide a quote for you from Medical News Today AND I QUOTE “Having high blood pressure can trigger feelings of anxiety in some people. Sometimes, the symptoms of hypertension, which include headaches, blurred vision, and shortness of breath, can be enough to cause panic or anxiety.”
@Doris Dickson you’re absolutely incorrect. As a cardiac patient myself, high blood pressure and high heart rate 100% cause PHYSICAL anxiety. It’s not mental anxiety they’re talking about (obviously.) steroids and NSAIDS elevate heart rate and blood pressure and when that happens it causes physical anxiety. Your comments are incredibly out of line, ill informed, and dismissive to the people who suffer from the very real physical anxiety that comes along with having heart problems or from developing cardiac symptoms from certain medications. Just because your husband didn’t get paperwork that disclosed this doesn’t mean it isn’t true, and don’t you dare sit there and spew fallacy’s.
I have had a total of 7 injections over the past 6 years. The one I had in 2017 lasted until a few weeks ago so I went for another one today. I also go to my chiropractor every 2 weeks. The worst my pain has ever gotten was in 2017 when I could not walk for 6 days, I had to literally crawl to the bathroom. People how have never lived with pain like this don’t understand what it does to you mentally. I have given induced birth with no pain meds and let me tell you giving birth was a cake walk compared to my back pain. All I can say is the injections have given me most of my life back and I am very happy about that
Man here so never given birth lol but I agree. I have a bulging disc pinching a nerve in my low back and OMG it's the worst pain ever. I've literally had to drag myself up the stairs at night after any sort of walking or physical activity. It's killing my spirit. I am very physically active and I haven't been able to lift weights or go to jiu jitsu. I have an epidural scheduled for the 21st of this month. Praying it helps.
I definitely know the pain you're talking about. I have a lot of pain that radiates from my lumber region also in the low sacrum area. My legs are gone!!! I haven't been able to walk in 8 months. Can't seem to lift my legs. I also have really bad neck pain that radiates into my arms and hands. I just had my 3rd spine injection two were in the L5 and the last one was in the sacrum area and I've had no relief from any of the injections.
Excellent video content! Sorry for butting in, I would love your initial thoughts. Have you heard about - Liamwaan Soothing Enlightenment (do a search on google)? It is an awesome one off guide for wiping out back pain and sciatica in 3 minutes without the hard work. Ive heard some pretty good things about it and my close friend Aubrey after a lifetime of fighting got great success with it.
Can I smoke weed when I get home from my Back injections?
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I have a L-4 & L-5 herniated disc for years. Diagnosed correctly last year on MRI. Miserable pain at my job as a nurse. Miserable pain at home. Gabapentin for several months but the side effects sucks. So they did a trigger point and it kicked in within a day last for approximately 2 months. BEST TWO MONTHS PAIN FEAR SINCE 2008! Just wore off today so calling tomorrow to see what we do next. In the time I was pain fear was able to workout and make PT exercise a part of my routine. So great!
Is trigger point the same as the epidural steroid injection
What is Trigger Point? You said they did a trigger point?
Wqwws.
This is good to hear. Thank you
This video was very to the point on what I wanted to know. Thanks so much for putting this up for everyone to watch.
I've had steroid injections for severe back pain about 6 years ago. I felt some relief after the first one. Then I went in every 4 months or so, then twice a year. That was 2 years ago and I've had no pain since then. Miraculous!
An X-ray showed I have Degenerative Disc Disease would this injection work? I’m in so much pain when I get out of bed I feel like my lower back is going to crack and I can’t stand up straight
@@mannygonzalez7987 If your pain is going into other parts of your body. Like legs too yes. I'm on days 2 after my injection. My shooting pains have stopped. Doing basic things like walking I'm ok with so far. Getting in and out of bed no problem. But I'm also a Athletic person. So I'm waiting to build my strength up and try a slow run. Praying i do and have no pain from it. But most definitely it will help with pain. You just need to be patient and get to see a professional and have this done. If you need anymore information. Plz ask, because I'm learning as I go along to live with a damage disk on my nerve.
Congrats 👏
in total how much injection have you taken?
@@sultantipu5896 after my last post the pain come bck within a week. then I went back just last week for another set of lumbar injections in my back. Now I can walk straight with less pain. With naproxen ontop.
I think stretches chiropractor regular sports massage will help. But it's a think unfortunately u have to manage for life.. it's horrible because people don't understand..
I never post nothing private about myself. But if I can share information that will help others like me and yourself all so I can learn.
I'm glad too. If theres anything you want to share do so plz if can help I will. Take care
I received my first injection this past Monday. I definitely felt the steriods going in but other than that everything went fine. I rested Tuesday felt 100% better yesterday and today. I hope to get at least 6 months of pain relief from this injection.
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Dan Satalino plzzzz tell me your spine cord is normal only you take some injection
It is true
Congratulations
Can I smoke weed when I get home from my Back injections?
How is it feeling now? I'm considering getting it.
I’m currently suffering from a herniated disc right now. I’m 24 years old and have just now found a doctor who is willing to listen to me and helped me figure this out. My first doctor who came highly recommended blew me off because of my age. I literally spent $5,000 on a trip to Florida for me and my wife and had to cancel because I blew my back out and couldn’t even walk. You tell doctors that and they just say take some ibuprofen you’ll be fine. Anyway hopefully this procedure works at least temporarily so I can return to everyday life.
How has it gone so far? I hope the injection is assisting with the pain while you recover.
@@Mechaneer it worked for a few days but quickly wore off unfortunately.
They have no idea..it is all about number of people served.
Hey I know it’s been 2 years, but how are you doing now? I’ve had a slipped disk with several pinched nerves found in both legs- from knees all the way down to the feet. I was 21 years old when it started and I’m 24 and just got my injections. I’m really sorry that doctor was crappy towards you
I just had a seizure from the injection 😢 passed out 😢. So now im losing confidence. I had a laminectomy. It help relieve pain from 10 to a 6 but still constant pain😢 i wish i should have just stayed with chiropractic care
I had this recommended and reluctantly took shot 2 months ago for pain from a herniated L5-S1 . Procedure went fine, no pain.. 3 days after and since I've had all of the gnarly symptoms related to sciatica. I had zero sciatica symptoms prior. The feelings have overshadowed the original pain from the herniation. The doc said it wouldnt fix anything but may make space for some healing while I did P.T., she did not tell me anything about adverse affects. I am not trying to discourage anyone, I just wish I had listened to my gut and not taken something questionable that wasn't even f@#$ing necessary.
I would trade these feelings for my worst back pain in an instant. Best of luck to all looking for relief and find yourself a GOOD doctor that explains procedures and their risks.
I hurt so bad. I had a Epidural steroid shot in my lower lombar last Friday for herniated disc.
I have server night cramps on my lower right side from my back to my toes. I get 10 days of this torture that last most of the night.
I have the medication Doctor gave but they do nothing.
I have never been in this much pain.
I just pray that this will be wort it
@@angelaemmens9235 how did it go did the shot make the pain go away?
how are you now? i am getting the shot as i am having horrific sciatica
@@angelaemmens9235 I’m curious how this worked for you I’m scheduled for epidural steroids this coming Wednesday the 11th 2024. I’m not concerned anything’s gotta be better than this pain. Let us know how it worked out thank you
Looking forward to mine next week, nervous but excited for the pain relief at last! 🤞
@@darrenbarmby8685 experience was fine no issues but has worn off now sadly just waiting for an appointment for a 2nd injection - it is a bit ‘hit and miss’ as I understand it but when I had the relief oh my goodness incredible for me! Good luck 🤞
No one talks about the incredible but short lasting pain down the leg nerves when this injection finally hit's the nerves ,but it is swift.
I received my injection today and it provided instant relief. I am recovering from other back procedures that have allowed me to walk.
How has it been? Was the injection really painful in the back? Have you gotten relief from it for a good bit of time? Herniated a disc some how and have been in so much pain for two months
@@dick8997
sorry for the delay. I am going in on monday for another injection, last one helped for over 4 weeks. The best thing that i did was get a surgical implant called a vertiflex procedure took 45 minutes and I have great relief.
@@larrymachaj7977 yea I think I'm about to be in that boat. Idn what I did to my self. Only thing I can think of was going over handlebars at motocross track at start of season re broke plated collar bone. Think I crushed disk at the same time. Freaking pain just constantly all the way down the left leg
Glad I came across this video. I’m doing my research before and thanks to this and the comments, Nope, I’m not taking it.
Lol
I’ve had this procedure before but it wasn’t explained to me this well. I’m going in for another one next week so I thought I’d do a little bit of research. My doctor is trying to figure out the best treatment plan because I have worsening arthritis pain in my lower spine, along with multiple herniated desks, and chronic pelvic pain. He just did a bilateral L3-4, L4-5, L5-S1 facet for lumbar spondylitis. Fingers crossed that I get some relief. Thank you for this amazing video. I feel more prepared to handle what’s coming my way.
@melody hallelujah Are you a Doctor or what is your Profession ? I was changed from Dexamethisone 4 years ago, with the worse Psychossis lasting 2-3 years of living pain Dead and suicide was not a excape of being in a box under ground and can't breath calling for help, i knew i would not get , for i was unable to think of any thing but How or when i would get out of an ever lasting HELL FIRE. This in Gods name is no joke and why God allowed me to take that injection. today i feel some recovery and hope God is doing it. i also had bone pain Adrenal and induced cushings like syndrome. my Doctor said i did caused from Dexamethisone. He will not ever have me take the vaccine for my adrenal glands and immune had enough. Said some thing about my brain fat loss do to steroid.
Great video! Everything is true! I’m still sore on Day three, but the injection is helping big time
I had mine 8 days ago. Needles don't bother me and didn't that day. When the steroid was injected tho it felt like my leg (the one that had been hurting so bad) was on fire from the inside. It was a horrible pain. I wrapped my arms around the table clinching it and just dealt with it because I knew I needed to be still. They used no sedation. Afterwards the Dr sat me up really quick to show me the images on the computer screen. I felt like I was in shock. I've had 3 c-sections (where I could feel some of the pain) and a tracheal resection which is a huge surgery so I don't think my pain was just from me being a wimp. I told my family I would never do that again. Then the nurse came in and told me I could leave. I drove myself home, they knew this as I had asked if I needed someone to come drive me and they said no. All that being said, the pain is 99% gone at this moment so now I know I did the right thing. I'm still trying to learn how to walk correctly as I had been walking slumped over with one leg sideways for several months. Now I just hope this took care of the problem for good. I really wish I had an answer for why it burned so horribly as the steroid was injected. The Dr acted like it was abnormal but gave me no explanation why I had the burning sensation.
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I had mine yesterday and I experienced burning in my left leg, too. It was nothing unbearable, but certainly unpleasant. My back is feeling better now but it is really sore at injection site. Hopefully that eases up soon.
Jennifer Singleton 8 months later and I'm still not normal. I can function but I'm in pain 90% of the time but the pain is nothing near what it was before the epidural. It's mainly my right leg that hurts, very rarely does my back hurt. I bought an inversion table and I believe that's what has kept me from needing to get another epidural, I really don't want to do that again. I've recently been put on Gabapentin and that seems to help some too. I hope one day to be pain free but I'm going on a year of pain now so I'm not too sure about that. I hope you continue to do well.
@@kristinray7641 hey sorry to bother you but can you give us an update? Hope you are dealing with the pain well
I had mine in 2017 and cried like a baby..It was so painful but pain went away so quick after the injection and I was able to walk again...slipped disk patient
Hey can I ask you how long it lasted for? Like did it cure u
Larry Davis no it’s not a cure but reduced the back pain for about a 2 months. May consider surgery soon
I have had three and two of them helped me. None of the three injections were painful. I was told the doctors put the medicine in slowly to avoid discomfort. Mine were done by two different docs and they both did the same. I was in and out of there in no time. Looks like it might be time for another one.
Iv had this done the 1st one did not really do anything it lasted 3 months n then l was in pain that much l could not walk l was in and out of hospital l had my 2end ones after 3 months n thay worked I had my last ones 10 days ago n it's not working l suffa with back pain and sitica n mucel spams in my legs iv got to go back in 3 months l can see it being a op if these last ones don't work so it dose work n it dose not work
same hear
Same here .. are better now..
Thank you mines is on this Wednesday and this was helpful C3/C4/C7 is causing me so much pain so this is my last result before another major surgery like my C5-C6 I feel so weak hopefully it works
Did you all know that Epidural Steroid Injections (ESI's) for back pain are not approved by the FDA?... and did you know that because of their unproven Safety and Efficacy record, ESI's are not approved by any Health Authority anywhere on the planet?... and did you know that an independent FDA advisory panel back in 2014 voted 15 to 7 to have ESI's banned because of serious medical event reports including death?... but the FDA said "NO" anyway! Did you also know that one year earlier in 2013 Pfizer had asked the FDA to ban their steroid Depo-Medrol (Methylprednisolone Acetate) for ESI's at all levels of the spine for the same safety reasons and yet again the FDA said "NO" because of Stock Market fears? Be smart, stay informed... a message from the EDNC.
I've been in pain 2 years finally having a nerve block to l5 in a couple of weeks it hasnt been explained to me yet that's why I'm here I've been on gabapentin which I'm convinced are causing me chest pain.i long to be able to walk without crouching over and to be able to walk pain free .
I’m in the same situation as you, L5-S1 DDD nerve block, causing sciatica pain down the left leg, and some weakness. I know what you’re going through and it sucks. I’m only 24 and this makes it feel like life is slipping by day by day, just waiting for it to be over.
2:51 Any answers? Guesses? Before I had surgery, a lumbar laminectomy for left buttock and leg pain (not neuropathy) tried lumbar epidural injections. Needle going in caused caused so much pain shooting right through whole length of sciatic nerve. But that resolved quickly and I was pain free for 3 months. But when injection wore off BOTH feet and legs became instruments of constant neuropathic pain and walking became impossible. No answer from surgeon, neurologist, pain management docs, massage, rest, exercise and stretches, icing, Icy Hot, and I don’t have diabetes or had treatment for cancer. I’m now 2 1/2 months post surgery (which I was hoping would resolve neuropathic pain) and 9 months post injections. Any feedback would be appreciated.
It only work for about 2 weeks for me but I have many complications and fighting 3 bone diseases killing me. I just keep faith.
I’ll pray for you. Stay strong.
@@DannyWifi thank you
Faith and hope in Jesus. Just believe in the word and claim healing in Jesus name. Im going through a terrible time myself but im hanging on to truth
@@williammurgida7521 what are you going through? We can share the suffering together
@@andyl9900 pain everyday
I suffered herniated disc and pinched nerves in both arms and legs from a car collision. I got the back injection a few weeks ago and I must say I felt almost immediate relief in my lower back.. I was sore at the injection site for a few days but it wasn’t as bad as I thought it would be. I’m just glad to have at least temporary relief for the time being..
Are you still feeling better? I hope you have found some relief. I am going to get a couple of shots for the first time soon.
Are they still working for you ?
Yes, surprisingly the injection is still working for me and it’s been over a year now..
@@shonuff515 Good. I have a herniated disc in my lower back and I'm experiencing some discomfort in my lower back when I sit or lay down and some nerve pain in my lower leg below my knee. I've improved a lot pain wise but still experiencing it. I am unsure whether to get the injections or not.
@@TheBradleyd1146 I know that feeling all too well. Hang in there.. I’ve had 2 injections in my lower lumbar say about 6 months apart and I’ve been good so far with the help of Flexeril and physical therapy..
Good for the profit margin. My dad had a month worth of benefit and that was it. I have lumbar issues from years as an electrician. I recently decided not to have this procedure based on so many people I have talked to about. And I also found out this is not FDA approved. Considering the FDA and their track record not approving this makes it a bigger no.
Had mine two days ago. Went really well without sedation. L3/L4 & L4/L5. Procedure took 15-20 minutes. A bit of pain up to 4-6 hours afterwards, minor numbness down my leg for the evening and overnight. Second morning, awoke with hip and leg pain, but back felt good. Once up and around, hip and leg pain subsides. Primary reason is for sciatica relief especially when driving or sitting for extended period of time. Cannot drive more than 1/2 hour in car without crushing pain and discomfort down back of leg and around to groin area. Hope this procedure provides relief. Not sure the many critical comments about this procedure are warranted as long as you are not getting it done by a quack. Real test will be next week (about 7 days after procedure) when I drive to my son’s house 1 hr. away. Was apprehensive and nervous about procedure, but now having done it, I will do a second or third injection if condition warrants without fear.
Hope all goes well for you mate , truly . Thank you for your honest and succinct post ; too many people on here are either spreading disinformation or are inarticulate but you speak frankly and honestly which helps as I have a family member about to receive these injections too . All the best mate from Australia 🇦🇺
@@venztower939 Follow-up: Back injection seemed to help with pain. Went from about a 6/7 down to 2/3, but has returned ?to before injection pain levels 3 months later. In the interrum, have had a steroid hip injection as well since a subsequent MRI shows a labral tear and hamstring tendonopothy causing my pain and discomfort while driving. Doctor thinks they may be two seperate issues. Rather than do repeat steroid injections, we are moving on to radiofrequency denervation where they burn the nerves causing the pain. The nerves will most likely grow back but this procedure may well provide 1-2 years of relief without subjecting me to multiple steroid injections every 3 months. Will treat leg and hamstring problem afterwards as seperate medical issue. Fix one thing at a time.
@@RJMEL24 Hope you are recovering well from the operation if you did it. My doctor recommended epidural but it seems from many experience it only soothes the nerves a couple months at best. I’m apprehensive about it and in big pain. Don’t know what to do, pleas help
@@andyl9900 had a ryzotomy done and didn’t do as well as expected. Doctor then diagnosed hip bursitis and gave me a steroid shot in hip. Pain disappeared in hip and leg almost immediately and still pain free two weeks later. Still have minor stiffness and pain in back in mornings which I think is mostly arthritis. Once I get going in the morning, it subsides and am feeling better than I have in a few years.
@@RJMEL24 glad your situation has improved my man. My mri shows a l5-s1 nerve being pinched causing leg pain and big toe weakness. My daily function has drastically deteriorated due to the pain. Doctor suggest ESI then surgery, you think this will give me my life back?
I just had the done 24 hrs ago in my hip and back feels awsome I feel a difference I could use a little more in my hip area but we will see how long it last...
Hey any update? Hope you are pain free , how are you now? Did it last?
Hey, was it sore at the time??
Ive taken oxy 5’s and use lidocaine patches. It works best although the pain pills don’t work as much since I’ve taken them for 18 years. The steroid injections helped for pain I didn’t realize I had but didn’t help at the surgery sight
Its amazing how this doctor in the video didn't mention about the risk of getting a spine leakage causing a spinal headache which i got last month when i went for an epidural because of my herniated disc. Worst experience ever for me and i will never ever take another epidural in my life. I had massive headaches that i couldn't stand up i had to be layed in my bed for over a week. I thought the headaches would go aways after some days but it never did. I had to go to the hospital and get a procedure calles a blood patch. Thanks god after that procedure i felt great again. People i highly recommend to not take that chance with an epidural because I don't wish what i had on anybody. Get trigger points over that dangerous epidural shot
What else can stop the pain of a herniated disc’s?
THAT IS WHAT HAPPENED TO ME !!!!! IT CAUSED MORE PAIN THAN THE DISK CAUSED !!!!!!!
I already have empty sella syndrome so now I’m nervous about this
What did you guys end up going with? Did the epidural help?
@@andyl9900 Epidurals rarely lead to CSF leaks (5 in 100,000 patients). My advice is when you're looking around at doctors to manage your pain, ask them about the risks and what the process is if something bad like a leak occurs. If they dismiss it, don't continue seeing them. If they say they'll be available immediately to fix it if it occurs, then trust your doctor. Do your research of course for any physician you see and trust your gut. If you do go the surgery route, ask your surgeon about artificial discs before fusion. Ask them if you're qualified for an articial disc, and of course, consult with multiple surgeons before trusting just one.... I've been dealing with my back issues since Aug 2020 and it's always taken me a few doctors to find one that I trust and that isn't a narcissistic ass. I hope anyone who reads this finds relief soon :( Back pain is no joke...
I would like to know why you don’t discuss that these are not FDA approved for use in spine. The product packaging says not to be se in spinal area. It has caused adhesive Aracnoiditis in hundreds, of not 1000’s of people, it degenerates you bones faster, has caused paralysis and death as well. It only works in a very low percentage of patients 20-30% yet we are all being pushed into doing this dangerous procedure! Several year ago there was a batch that was not sterile and caused severe infections for 100’s of people.
Have you had this procedure done? My doctor is really pushing for but I am really reluctant after reading your comment. He or the clinic never mentioned these side effects. He said their might be a chance of infection but it is very rare.
Many meds are not fda approved for the purpose they are used for.
Does it help with leg numbness, weakness?
What I need to know is if I should bring my walker to the appointment or not. Very descriptive video by the way...
I was told by my doctor it can take up to 4 weeks for the injection to work. I wonder why?
Can you do this if you’re a pilot? I’m afraid it will pop up in my medical records and ground me
Nicely explained. Thank you 🙏
Had mine seven days ago and so far no relieve. Hope it get better but so far will not have one again
STEROIDS" DO NOT WORK !!!!
@@DallasBryant-rw1oh They can give the worse Psyichossis any one could ever bare lasting for years.
My doctor used ultrasound for injection in the SI JOINT. Felt very hot that night, cramping toe, chronic anxiety. He used DEPA MADRAL. What medication do you use because I haven't heard it.
1 injection 9 months ago. still steroid pysicosis mood swing depreshion head a all messed up recovering i hope but dont no . this is hell
I have had 2 sets of injections to m back and they have made me worse, my question is can the cortisone be flushed out of my spine as I am feeling unable to walk as a result of the injections
Hello how are you feeling rigth now i had mine 7 days ago and im worse...
THEY ARE PUTTING A BANDAID ON A GASH !!!!!!! , THEY ARE NOT CORRECTING THE PROBLEM !!!!!!!
@@DallasBryant-rw1oh They do it wrong some times, or its just getting rid of pain but still doing other damage that is not noticed for many till they drop or drop in pain.
@@DallasBryant-rw1oh I hope a lot of people won't be hurting in the future. Many that push hard on Steroids that hurt other people and don't care to research should take it first and better not be a placebo . but then i don't really want any one to go through this. May be they do it wrong or some thing else.
how are u now i need these injections and im terified
I wish to have this informative.. thnk u very much
I had mine today. Felt no pain under sedation
No pain is felt until after the injection is done.
Did the injection last
@@texan903 is sedation when they numb you or actual anesthesia?
Thanks for this information 👍I feel much better going to do it
Did you mention FDA has not approved epidural steroids for back injections or that a class warning on steroids was issued for serious neurological events in 2014 by FDA including stroke, paraplegia, quadriplegia, and death?
These pain Drs are jackasses who refuse to listen to thier patients and I for 1 refuse to be thier guniea pigs anymore.
@@Naturegirl1976
As do I. They can take the drill Mills and stick it where the sun doesn't shine.
Going for my first injection on the 21st of next month. Great video. Spinal Stenosis.
I had my epidural steroid injection August 24th... it's August 30th and no relief as of yet. My Dr. said I'd have relief in 3 days so I'm very disappointed. I was really looking forward to being able to do normal things for a while without pain. Just my experience.
@@cathyc2665 Mine is supposed to go between L4-L5 severe spinal stenosis. I hope yours kicks in soon.
Thank you for this very informative video! Been getting injections for years (facet, trigger and epidural) alternating between my back and neck. Sometimes it’s a hit, sometimes a miss 😤😩
Today I got (I believe) bilateral cervical steroid injection (I hope I have the names right-neck-upper back area) But like today as a few other times I could feel the wire pushing through, wasn’t too painful just slight discomfort (strange feeling) the whole top of my back/close to my neck is tender and a little sore. Hoping I’ll feel a little better from the procedure tomorrow and that this time it’s a HIT instead of a MISS 🤞🤞🤞🤞
Are the manufacturers of the corticosteroids recommended for spinal use?
My Doctor recommended this injection for me, but I'm bit worried it wouldn't help. I'm experiencing numbing, tingling, cramps in my feet, legs feel heavy. I'm waiting to be diagnosed, my Doctor thinks I mostly have varicose veins. I will be grateful for any feedback.
Hello i have same problem can you share any information about your treatment. Please
I get last week epidural injection but I’m suffering from hadeace. How long side effect it ?
You may have spinal fluid leak and needed a blood patch....please do research ...arachnoiditis is no fun and might be linked to doing this...and trust me is NOOO fun which happened to me after I had this done
I had my upper back and oh my God I screamed cuz it hurts so much I felt like he had busted into something else had a all day headache really bad I ended up in the emergency room and the doctor said that I need to go back within 2 days but it was spelled on a Friday and the same thing they said about getting some blood patches but I don't know what that would feel like
How can this be legal when its not FDA approved.
Laura Rivera
@@MyEyesBled its a bunch of bs what they can do to us.
I was just about to ask the same question! It's crazy and evil!!!
@@laurarivera1992 that’s why is very important to get second or 3 opinion. If you have a great insurance they will tell you to get as much medicine they could . They make money from it
Very informative. Thank you
I am on my second injection. This is painful. I’m experiencing numbness in my legs and feet. I can’t cross my legs or put pressure under my feet without feeling numb. I still can’t stand or walk far. I’m talking walking a half a mile. Now I have to start cervical injection.
Are you crazy? You might have arachnoiditis from last shot. Sfay away from this quackery.
Agree very painful
Agree with Jason
look into radiofrequency..that procedure is a bit painful but soooo worth it when it helps with issues like this.i had it done and ive been feeling good for two years now.(although 2 year results arent typical,usually it lasts shorter.ive been lucky)
I just had my 2nd injection and I'm now in serious pain. My arms are on fire and the nerves are firing off like crazy. It's going into my legs as well and I'm living in hell right now.
Had a steroid injection over two years ago fixed my lower back problem then now I have some mild lumba stenosis having another soon I am happy with this treatment because of my age I won’t go surgery unless I have to cheers🙏with respect run your own race and goodluck😁
Im glad im hoping its as effective as your last one or better! Im getting my first one soon im just hoping it will help. Its very frustrating the times between these mutiple dr appointments and of course they dont wanna give pain meds, but these back pains are no joke. Its just frustrating
@@Charlies_Factory the very best of luck to you🙏😁
Can someone answer my question, do the doctors drug test before anesthesia shot ?
Yes, week before they did a drug test at the hospital, then day of asked me again what medicines I’m taking.
I have one they said it only last for 2 days. For now. Not sure why then I may have to go for a long term one But now my upper back hurts not sure why
I had 1st epidural injections two weeks ago and haven’t felt any improvement, I have a herniated disk L5-S1, in a week I’m having the 2nd shot, hopefully should feel improvement…
Any improvement?
?
How can anesthesia before injections affect the pressure?
I have lower back pain. My doc is like what ever you ask he will write you down. From a friend I found out cortisone injections will help with pain in lower back. Now I came a cross of different therapies. Prolotherapy! Cortisone injection, prp and stem cells? I am confused which one should I go with for a better and longer lasting result and benefit? I am 28yrs of age by the way and play football, weight lifting.
Please share your knowledge and experience so I can make the right decision.
Regards
Stem cells obviously
I just had one done yesterday. Now the disks aren't tight or inflamed. But I'm definitely suffering from nerve damage from the shot. I'm running for lyrica, transdermal patches, and iced cream. The next step is surgery. Does anyone know how long this nightmare will last?
...you’re running from ice cream?
@@bitchpudding2945 yeah
*cold cream
@@Jordan-ln2ef weirdo
Are Epidural Steroid Injections or the corticosteroids used such as DepoMedrol FDA approved for Epidurals?
no
I had them numerous times
They did nothing for me
WAIT UNTIL YOU GET OLDER !!!!!!!
Im scared but im in soooo much pain i just wanna lay down all day i have 3 herniated discs
Just had mine yesterday do it!!!!!! It doesnt hurt at all
We have the same experienced but its ok after 1 injection last month >>>south korea
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@@kylewilliams7675 how do you feel now
@@missk3214 I feel great still
I was in a car accident 2 years ago.Me and my disabled mother were T-boned...I fractured my L4-L5
I've had 4 injections I hasn't really helped at all🤦😥
THIS CRAP IS POISON !!!!!!!
@@DallasBryant-rw1oh So many people out that died in pain and not here to warn us. i have seen 100s on utube going through this suffering and dying of suicide for escape or just dying. God give us Grace and please find what we don't know.
@@trafficjon400 seems like a hit or miss.. my surgeon won’t operate on me unless I try the epidural first. What do you think, bail or hope for the best?
@@andyl9900 You keep looking around and asking friends or people about it. FDA Did not approve the steroid for many years and the epidural is one it did not approve by finding 1000s Sick or for life. i won't get near a steroid again if possible. some or many human hormones blood type seem to allow it with no negative effects.Dont play a chance on your hormones unless you know your dna or what ever can recover from man made hormones reacting over natural ones.
@@trafficjon400 guess there’s no way to know. Does it only take one shot to screw yourself if you’re not the right person or the doctor screws up?
Outdated when regenerative medicine have come
Curious if an epidural injection help for a lumbar fusion at L4/L5 that did not fuse?
Having this done Tuesday and hope I don't use Cain for awhile
@@oldman9154 Please follow up in a couple of weeks and lets us know the outcome! I hope it works great!
Sure will
@@oldman9154 Any updates? That was 11 months ago...
I had mine yesterday sometimes it works sometimes it dosnt am sore like hell after for a week
Same here as far as pain after shot. Pain last for about a week or longer. Just had my 3rd injection no relief from any of the shots. First 2 injections were in the L5. The 3rd was in my sacrum area.
Very informative thank u
I had my first injection 10 days ago and I have to say it has relieved most of my back pain but not completely. Is it a matter of giving it more time to make the effect or should I consider getting a 2nd one?
Any side effect in this injections
I went for one but they gave me one that only last for 2 days. Not sure why
I had L4 severe pain 5 different times Like electric shock it was about billions time worse then an electric shock.
Same worst pain I ever felt
@@osorioki6314 I’m having the laminectomie the 13th of April.
Got it Friday didn’t help at all more pain then before 🤦♀️And they called me waiting to do another 6 no way!! It might help someone else but it didn’t help me I didn’t even get any temporary relief 😞
This just masks the pain like pain meds though. Plus it can and usually does cause bone loss or brittle bones. So when it wears off, your pain comes back, 10 fold. I’ve never had relief from injections and I’ll never do it again. It’s all about that money, honey...doctors do NOT care that you’re suffering.
Masks pain if surgery will not work.. that most people like....most people will never experience that horror of pain.....the us government is killing off pain patients.. I know
YOU DESERVE A MEDAL FOR TELLING THE TRUTH !!!!!!! 777
I agree ! When I didn’t have insurance the dr told me . Take Advil you will be fine , your body will heal itself I and do some physical therapy.
With insurance the dr was in hurry to give me 2 epidural injection for my back pain . He told me not side effects and your pain will be gone ! And when I said I will look for second opinion he got mad and told me good luck !
@@ninavanina8455 I have the same experience as you, except my spine surgeon says he won’t do surgery on me unless I try the injection first. I think it’s all about the money for them. The healthcare system in the US is evil.
@@andyl9900 i think the surgery is not an easy procedure.
The cost is no play in the Park for a 10 minute procedure, I feel bad for the People in pain in the lumbar region that can't afford this cost .
@melody hallelujah What are your credentials? Are you just a copy and paste BS'er ?
Where I go they don't. I've had probably had anywhere from 7 _10 procedures, and it doesn't work!! Even nerve ablation.
Agree
I can't have a epidural injections due to a fused spine surgery, stenosis, spondylosis. It fucking sucks
@@Naturegirl1976 I'm supposed to get one next week for thoracic stenosis. Kinda nervous. I've had in lumbar l5 disc protrusion but not t11 t12 😔. Hope it works 🤞 for stenosis
Exactly the steriods detoriate your bones. The doctors should be doing surgery rather then injections for ones needing it. Ins companies don't want to pay for surgery unless you can not walk and even then they don't want to
Is this Injection gives permanent pain relief life long?
No.
NO!!!!!!!
@@DallasBryant-rw1oh it could just leave you with all kinds of pains til you get sick of it. Then what ? PRAY
👎 no
How can Doctors do this to patients...? It states right on the bottle..of medicine "NOT" for spinal injection..Intramuscular injection "ONLY" there never has been any medicine approved for spinal injections... I pity anyone who develops Adhesive Arachnoiditis when these injections are not done properly...
One thing you didn't mention:. I've had this procedure 3X. After each one my brain became completely confused. I typically experienced chronic pain about 20yrs. After the injection, I couldn't find any pain anywhere. While this sounds great; my brain still flipped out about not being able to locate any of it; even though I knew on some level, it was obviously the steroid doing it's trick.
Just couldn't wrapy head around it. It was last one just the opposite direction for being hit in the back by a hammer & I just don't know how to describe that. Still grateful however. Even if it means moving into my 4th back surgery that are really brutal as hell, very neutral. Pray for me!
They’re also not fda approved! 🤷♀️
There are 3 ways to tackle this, injections which lasts some time and consecutive injections live shorter, operation which can last as long as injections or even longer but the pain will come again eventually due to instability created by operation and last is just living a strictly healthy and antiinflammatory life with sun with moderate exercises. And with the last one you can delay this more but yes it can hit again.
This is the dilemma of the patient. Once the homeostasis is gone and with age it goes away, there is not much to do as far as i can see. One can ask if the other is still painfree and correlates with his/her state but unfortunately our bodies are unique and an orthopedics intervention cannot do much. There is no single bullet to take away joint/muscle/nerve pain.
My comment is not really relevant for autoimmune people. They have a different context.
How are Epidural Injections used to relieve pain? Epidural Injections are a very common treatment to help patients with back pain, sciatica or radicular pain. This may feel like pain coming from your back and shooting down your leg.
Dr. Nikesh Seth, managing partner at Integrated Pain Consultants, talks about what an Epidural Injection is all about. An Epidural Injection is when a specific type of needle is placed into the epidural space in the spine. The Epidural space holds many nerves that leave the spine and go down your leg.
I didn’t see the need to be sedated. It was like taking a flu shot to me. They just put numb medicine in the location
I’ve had Epidurals and nerve blocks and I am a mess so think about it hard because it has not worked for me
True it did not work for me either
Hey I know this is like a year age but did you guys end up getting surgery?
I feel like a lot of people have various results. Steroids help with inflammation. I don't think this injection is an answer for everyone. If dealing with inflammation issues causing the pain to worsen it sounds worth a shot (pun intended). Otherwise maybe seek alternatives.
I’m getting a L4-5 ESI tomorrow and I’m scared! My back is already so painful and sore. Please advise!!
how was it?
It truly wasn’t as bad as I anticipated. Was it highly uncomfortable due to lying on my stomach and getting shots? Sure, but the actual procedure was okay. I did experience some burning in my left leg, but I just dealt with it and it was over soon. I did see stars for a few seconds, but that also wore off. This morning my pain level in my back has decreased enough that it’s noticeable. My injection site is very sore though, but that was to be expected. I’d say all in all- so far so good.
How are you doing now?
Then what’s going on in your body ?
I was kicked in my back at fifteen. I'm 26 now both legs go numb all the time now I have a physically demanding job handling freight 30 to 50 lbs boxes all the time im worried if I go see doctors they will tell me I can't work. I need my back to not hurt anymore and if anyone is reading this who has had this problem and it was fixed with injections so they could go back to work let me know please been feeling hopeless lately anyone out there back to heavy lifting after this treatments?
RC 1994 why wasn’t it taken care of when you were 15? Since you didn’t I’m sure your nerves have been permanently damaged thus the numbness. Have you consulted a spine specialist? If anything you need to see what’s going on, a steroid shot will not fix your problem trust me. If anythjng f you even researched it’s quite dangerous if the doctor isn’t competent enough and misses the spot your life is over.
@@imscared8396i went to emergency room back then they told me I would need surgery back then but my parents basically left me on my own Ive been working on getting my dental work takin Care since i haven't been in to the dentist in like 13 years paying cash to have that done. Been working on getting insurance so I can possibly go see a specialist to get me outta this pain.
RC 1994 I feel bad my brother for your pain i can’t believe your parents didn’t have a form of insurance to cover your expenses for the surgery because now you’re gonna living with the consequences for the rest of your life. You can’t apply for medi-cal or any government assistance?
There is no way i could do heavy back work and my pain isnt that bad. Bad backs and heavy lifting are just impossible without pain and spasms. Need a new job
i had on and off back problems for 14 years. The pain would always go away, bulging disc. With my back in a weakened state i took on work for a good customer that i should have passed up. now i have a burst disc. my guess is you will eventually burst your disc and be in a whole new world of hurt. i wish you could find a good paying job that was easier on your back, good luck. stuck in a couch awaiting my shot.
I have degenerative disc disease/herniated disc and Aetna just DENIED my injection. What can I do to get them to approve it. He prescribed oxycodone but I'm afraid to take them
Just a heads up I was prescribed Oxycodone in 2009 and never thought I would become addicted. It happened and almost ruined my life. 7 years of addiction. I have been clean since August 15, 2015. Saying this out of love do not take pain pills. I am on my way to have a steroid injection and I am so nervous. Husband driving me now while I am typing this. Praying God stops this if this is not for me. Suffer the pain. I'm praying for you.
@@pennysmith4503 Thanks Penny. I work in the addiction and mental health field so I'm aware of the disease. I'm currently 7 years clean from alcohol and Marijuana. I got rid of the medication and told him not to prescribe them to me anymore, we have to find another solution. Hppe your injection goes well. Keep me updated
@@owhynot2341 Amen on trashing them. God is good like that. 😁 Congratulations on your sobriety. I'm in the surgery center now. Thank you for replying back. I will definitely let you know how it goes. And maybe ask my doctor at next appointment how to get yours approved. Doctor's office usually can find a way and work around insurance
Take them you need them take them as prescribed and no more than you are prescribed. You will be tempted to take more because of the relief that you will feel. Most people who are in horrible condition and horrible pain can’t get a dr. To write them a fda approved pain medication because of “opiate” epidemic. They used to over write pain medication and when it became a problem instead of taking the correct measurements to curb the problem they did a full 180 and they ripped people who were living a better quality of life with their pain medication and turned them to the street to find another way to get relief. Now you go to the dr. In pain and they write you psych medication that’s not appropriate for pain management. Take the pills and be smart. Be grateful for the fact that you have a dr. That is giving you a valid pain reliever for your pain. Others are are killing their liver with ibuprofen,others putting their actual life at risk during this exact procedure to get any kind of relief. The pills are way safer and will help you immensely.
Btw I am a recovered heroin addict and I know how hard it is to get off of medication that you don’t need but just because they say it’s non addictive doesn’t mean it is. I’m more physically dependent on a mood stabilizer I was incorrectly diagnosed with a mood disorder and I actually have adhd and am on the right medication now but I go three days with a non narcotic non addictive medication and I am sick as a dog with horrible symptoms from withdrawals.. fancy that but they don’t tell you that. Everyone is different and if you’re in pain then take the correct medication correctly and you won’t have a problem. You think the person who responded about going into surgery but being clean isn’t going to get a morphine iv drip is a fucking liar and the black white mentality is hurting people who need help. SMH.
I got two EPI shots on my lower back today.
How did that make u feel? I only had one today. Wow it hurt for a minute or two. Lol
Results good or bad?
I hate operation room bcoz I always want to piss at the moment dey want to start
It is best in this case to NOT hold back. Just raise your fat arse up off the bed a little and let it go. Piss if done properly should go over every thing in sight as well as the doctor and his assistants. You should groan loudly at the same time and crack a HUGE fart whilst saying I think that my waters have broken. All this activity will be sure to make you a very popular patient in the hospital of your choice.
7316bobe 😂
Can I smoke weed when I get home from my Back injections?
✅
I did, shit made the recovery easier
They say not to...
Aracnoiditis
They didn't work & put me in bed for 3 months! 4 times it was done & never again!!! Only worked in elbows
PEOPLE DO"T LISTEN !!!! DO NOT GET THE INJECTION !!!!!!!
@@DallasBryant-rw1oh They do it wrong or its just poison.
Does spinal stenosis cause incontinence?
Not necessarily . I have it and I have never had incontinance. I heard Incontinence is a big red flag though if you have a spine problem
My incontinence is from multiple pinched nerves in the Lumbar Spine . It prevents you from getting the message that you need to go. My damage is too advanced for surgery so pull-ups it is. Good luck.
I had mine last year. It works.
Thursday - May 13, 2021.
Lucky you had a Doctor who knows what he's doing, i guess.
Did it fix the problem permanently? How are you feeling
@@andyl9900 for me, it pretty much did.
@@theephraimite I have a pinched nerve at l5-s1 that’s causing big toe weakness. I don’t think I can be permanently pain free with just the injection?
@@andyl9900 give it a try.
Doctor alued on UA-camcured me from diabetes I'm diabetes free after 2 years of suffering
Thank God I never got it!!!!!. This doesn't treat the problem only covers the issue for a period of time. I started with a horrible sciatic pinched nerve due to bulged discs on my lower back till 1 day I couldn't walk any more. I went to see a specialist he was gonna cut me open and shave the nerve or I could choose the epidural. A day before I came across a chiropractor who after 6 months fixed me up. I been issue and pain free for 10 years and I became a state champion minimalist runner. I say do your research.
Worst decision I ever made. I had one and now have chronic anxiety. If you have history of anxiety in your family be very aware.
Doris Dickson a side effect of an epidural is anxiety.
Doris Dickson I was given a paper and one side effect was anxiety.
@Doris Dickson epidurals are steroids and steroids raise blood pressure and heart rate. I know because I have heart problems and I discussed the side effects with my neurosurgeon and they said there’s a chance it could aggravate my heart. So you’re wrong.
@Doris Dickson here I’ll even provide a quote for you from Medical News Today AND I QUOTE “Having high blood pressure can trigger feelings of anxiety in some people. Sometimes, the symptoms of hypertension, which include headaches, blurred vision, and shortness of breath, can be enough to cause panic or anxiety.”
@Doris Dickson you’re absolutely incorrect. As a cardiac patient myself, high blood pressure and high heart rate 100% cause PHYSICAL anxiety. It’s not mental anxiety they’re talking about (obviously.) steroids and NSAIDS elevate heart rate and blood pressure and when that happens it causes physical anxiety. Your comments are incredibly out of line, ill informed, and dismissive to the people who suffer from the very real physical anxiety that comes along with having heart problems or from developing cardiac symptoms from certain medications. Just because your husband didn’t get paperwork that disclosed this doesn’t mean it isn’t true, and don’t you dare sit there and spew fallacy’s.
Don't do it period