Down Shifting For Rally Driving

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  • @MegaKei1
    @MegaKei1 3 роки тому +38

    Rally driving is just soooo technical. I love learning new techniques. Thanks guys!

  • @BpgaMusic
    @BpgaMusic 3 роки тому +80

    i can't wait to save up the money to attend this school. give me like 6 years lol

    • @kennethgamble5498
      @kennethgamble5498 3 роки тому +6

      Worth every penny

    • @bobsanders9500
      @bobsanders9500 3 роки тому +6

      I wish that I had done the course a few years earlier than I did. It might have prevented a few accidents and saved a lot of money in repairs.

    • @jubbydubby8275
      @jubbydubby8275 3 роки тому +2

      I'll see you there lol

  • @marstedt
    @marstedt 3 роки тому +68

    Is there a way you could record (datalog) the pedal pressures and then overlay it on the inside & outside cam videos? Doesn't have to be a graph or too detailed, even just three coloured dots / indicators on the bottom of the frame.

    • @floflospeed24
      @floflospeed24 3 роки тому +6

      Nice idea ! I think that with an odb reader and an app, it won't be too difficult to see the throttle opening %, speed, rpm...

    • @jchrizzy6995
      @jchrizzy6995 3 роки тому +2

      This would be really helpful for me too! Good idea

    • @seanalicea6921
      @seanalicea6921 3 роки тому +2

      Yeah all 3 pedal percentages on a slider would be super helpful

    • @TrafficCheck1126
      @TrafficCheck1126 3 роки тому +2

      that's a solid idea

  • @bobsanders9500
    @bobsanders9500 3 роки тому +2

    Great video Max. Really helpful explanation.

  • @thatrallycarguy
    @thatrallycarguy 3 роки тому +2

    I've been watching you guys for a long time and I'm thinking about taking your guys's driving school dirtfish is just too expensive and you guys are just as good but another great video to add to your collection thank you so much

  • @Chimera6297
    @Chimera6297 3 роки тому +5

    by some coincidence I was watching another team o'neil video and this one popped up lol

    • @BradsHacks
      @BradsHacks 3 роки тому +2

      Welcome to UA-cam's algorithms

  • @minchannyein7822
    @minchannyein7822 3 роки тому

    I could like turning down the shift...thank for your type of 3.

  • @cybersteel8
    @cybersteel8 3 роки тому +5

    At the end of the video, the conclusion didn't really say much. "Certain things you need to be cautious of" - reiterating these would have been useful. What are the "certain advantages"? When it depends on certain things, what are the options and how do I choose which technique to use? This part of the video was a great opportunity to really explain the decision making and factors that play into those decisions. The video feels incomplete and is missing some important information. The demonstration was great though.

    • @ragweedmakesmesneeze
      @ragweedmakesmesneeze 6 місяців тому

      I was thinking the same thing...I still don't know when/why to use these different techniques.

  • @Ashish-er4kz
    @Ashish-er4kz 2 роки тому

    I wish I could attend these schools in reality. But this seems like a far fetched dream

  • @pengdu7751
    @pengdu7751 3 роки тому +9

    can shift lock be used on AWD as well?

    • @CBD47
      @CBD47 3 роки тому +1

      Depends to momentum distribution in the car. Shift lock could be usefull only in rwd-behavior cars. Otherwise you have only add more understeer

    • @gelatnous_cube6118
      @gelatnous_cube6118 3 роки тому

      @@CBD47 you just correct for under steer by e break or left foot breaking

    • @CBD47
      @CBD47 3 роки тому +1

      @@gelatnous_cube6118 shift lock is just a wheel lock perfomed by transmission without brakes. So for rwd-behavior cars it will be rear wheels block = handbrake, like for handbrake turn but with correct gear and rpm benefits on exit. Otherwise for fwd-behavior cars we will have just blocked front tires and slip out of corner

    • @gelatnous_cube6118
      @gelatnous_cube6118 3 роки тому

      @@CBD47 ahh i see

  • @sirrevalot2543
    @sirrevalot2543 2 роки тому

    Was each method applied in sertain order because of the drive type?

  • @theinz89
    @theinz89 3 роки тому +1

    how do you think the new crosstrek sport would do as a beginner rally car?

    • @CherokStarsRacing
      @CherokStarsRacing 3 роки тому

      As a real rally car platform? Like to prepare for stage rally? With a roll cage? Not sure what you mean.

    • @theinz89
      @theinz89 3 роки тому +2

      @@CherokStarsRacing I guess to be more specific I'm looking for something that I don't have to modify much in order to have some safe/spirited fun on dirt roads, similar to what they do in their "will it rally?" series. I'd imagine with the power boost in the sport it might compare to the Paceman S video they did a while back?

    • @CherokStarsRacing
      @CherokStarsRacing 3 роки тому +2

      @@theinz89 oh yeah! We have cross treks that rally cross with us. Rally cross is basically a closed dirt course with no roll cage needed. Basically just a helmet. It’s fun and a great place to get to toss your car around. But it definitely depends on what you’re looking to do. Our rally car is a non turbo, 140hp car that is an absolute blast!

  • @willitdonut8895
    @willitdonut8895 3 роки тому +1

    So which one is the fastest and the safest?

    • @Teamoneilrally
      @Teamoneilrally  3 роки тому +3

      Depends on so many variables. All of these are great options but the vehicle you are driving, the road surface, the severity of the corner, how fast you are going and many more all factor in to your decision. The best one really is the one that is most likely to keep you on the road and not break the car.

    • @willitdonut8895
      @willitdonut8895 3 роки тому +2

      @@Teamoneilrally Woah 😳... That actually was well said... Damnn.
      Do rally drivers follow that same principle?

  • @galdror9001
    @galdror9001 3 роки тому

    Does this apply also to cars which have semi automatic transmissions?

    • @codysykes5568
      @codysykes5568 2 роки тому +4

      If you're talking about a sequential gearbox (pull back to gear up push forward to gear down) then it's up to the driver's discretion whether you want to gear down before/during/after a turn. So just to build on what was demonstrated, it comes down to driver preference and skill set as well as the drivetrain (rear wheel drive, front wheel drive, 4 wheel drive).
      The only real important difference here is that a sequential gearbox only needs a clutch for launch, clutch kicking, or sometimes for shifting if you're going really hard in a low gear you may want to use the clutch as a precaution.
      Basically a sequential helps you drive faster through faster shifts, easier to manage than an H pattern with clutch, lower risk of money shifting (going from 4th to 3rd instead of 5th) and that sort of thing.
      I'm no expert by any means so I hope I helped a bit =]

  • @bagzdadniga4184
    @bagzdadniga4184 3 роки тому +1

    Wow Mezing👍😂

  • @L3THALXFOX
    @L3THALXFOX 3 роки тому

    Wheres wyatt

  • @preworkoutcoffee2604
    @preworkoutcoffee2604 3 роки тому +1

    huh

  • @Mpeterson1286
    @Mpeterson1286 3 роки тому +2

    "Heel/toe is too hard"
    🤦

    • @bobsanders9500
      @bobsanders9500 3 роки тому

      I agree. Best used in track racing not rallying.

    • @brandonnhol
      @brandonnhol 2 роки тому

      Heel and toe isn’t used as much in rally compared to road racing so yeah

    • @Mpeterson1286
      @Mpeterson1286 2 роки тому +2

      I use it daily driving in traffic for the silky smooth deceleration and when you need to get that cool mid-drift downshift playing backroad rallycar.
      I find it extremely useful. 🤷‍♂️