Marshall, Steinitz, Lasker: Best of 1890s-1910s | Games to Know by Heart - GM Ben Finegold

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  • Опубліковано 5 лип 2017
  • Grandmaster Ben Finegold looks at three memorable games from the decades around the turn of the 20th century. The "Gold Coin Game" Levitsky-Marshall is included. Did spectators really throw money at the board in appreciation?
    2017.06.22
    Stefan Levitsky vs Frank James Marshall, 18th DSB Kongress (1912): C10 French, Marshall variation
    www.chessgames.com/perl/chessg...
    Wilhelm Steinitz vs Curt von Bardeleben, Hastings (1895): C54 Giuoco Piano, Greco's attack
    www.chessgames.com/perl/chessg...
    Emanuel Lasker vs William Ewart Napier, Cambridge Springs (1904): B34 Sicilian, accelerated fianchetto, modern variation
    www.chessgames.com/perl/chessg...

КОМЕНТАРІ • 116

  • @Kabitu1
    @Kabitu1 6 років тому +57

    The Gold Coin Move, the chess equivalent of "And then the whole bus applauded"

    • @morgard211
      @morgard211 5 років тому +1

      That's extremely accurate 😂😂

  • @Dybbouk
    @Dybbouk 2 роки тому +3

    Lasker vs Napier is an old friend who has kept me company over the years. This is the best analysis I have seen however.

  • @MsUncleKevin
    @MsUncleKevin 6 років тому +126

    Ben: 'This is low rated players move, so its recommended by?'
    Arjin: ''Mike Kummer'

  • @princessaiko
    @princessaiko 6 років тому +29

    For years, I have celebrated GM Ben Finegold for the rule "Never play f3/f6." Then I heard, he had stolen/misappropriated it in blatant violation of US copyright laws. Now I like Ben even more. ;)

  • @warrenellul
    @warrenellul 6 років тому +39

    Another finegold video? Exclam!

  • @bradenstewart6270
    @bradenstewart6270 6 років тому +70

    So when is Arjun gonna teach a class and call on Finegold for all the answers?

    • @AndrewIsbell
      @AndrewIsbell 6 років тому +32

      Let's call on a random student -- Grandmaster Ben Finegold!
      No! Didn't you read your lines! Terrible!

  • @mahmoodsaba5046
    @mahmoodsaba5046 6 років тому +66

    2 finegold videos in one week ?? suspicious

    • @wemser82
      @wemser82 6 років тому +2

      mahmood saba Solid!

  • @VladimirTheAesthete
    @VladimirTheAesthete 6 років тому +56

    "Arjun likes Russian, I told him to slow down."

    • @KillianDefaoite
      @KillianDefaoite 6 років тому +6

      Vladimir Vilimaitis it's spelled "Arjun"!

  • @dextrodemon
    @dextrodemon 6 років тому +4

    yay someone just forced me into playing the marshall variation of the french defence, and now i know i need to do a daring queen sacrifice for mate, thanks!

  • @ravenlord4
    @ravenlord4 6 років тому +26

    "Some of Marshall's most sparkling moves look at first like typographical errors."
    - William Napier

  • @timolyphant9778
    @timolyphant9778 6 років тому +30

    I need to see Arjun play Ben

  • @GlennTolle
    @GlennTolle 6 років тому +4

    Ben--thanks for your great sense of humor and engaging teaching style. You actually make chess videos fun to watch. Please keep doing what you are doing!

  • @paulgoogol2652
    @paulgoogol2652 4 місяці тому +1

    The mother of all "oh no my queen" games 😮

  • @shyamdas6231
    @shyamdas6231 6 років тому +2

    Lasker vs Napier should be covered in more details. That game deserves in-depth analysis.

  • @InsanePokerClips
    @InsanePokerClips 6 років тому +2

    This is gold. He's so entertaining

  • @terrabitic7090
    @terrabitic7090 6 років тому +1

    Ben never gets old.

  • @TomasOvechkinZ
    @TomasOvechkinZ 6 років тому +74

    Another grandmaster Ben Finegold video? Is this real life?

    • @ahmedbob423
      @ahmedbob423 6 років тому +3

      Tomas Zaloudek *Grandmaster Ben Finegold

    • @Avuvos
      @Avuvos 6 років тому

      Love these vids soo much pls more :D

    • @atakanpayman
      @atakanpayman 6 років тому +2

      Suspicios...

    • @aonarchs7023
      @aonarchs7023 6 років тому +1

      of course!Terrible!

    • @AndrewIsbell
      @AndrewIsbell 6 років тому

      There are 3 more currently as "private" in the channel's finegold playlist. I suggest you subscribe to the playlist.

  • @benc6190
    @benc6190 6 років тому +6

    everyday a new finegold video pops up is like Christmas !

  • @darktechno8321
    @darktechno8321 4 роки тому +2

    12:38 "What do I have in common with him [Steinitz] ? I went to his grave."
    Wow

  • @benselectionforcasting4172
    @benselectionforcasting4172 6 років тому +1

    Ben Finegold doing a lecture with games from Steinitz, Suspicious.

  • @kinderschubser92
    @kinderschubser92 6 років тому

    HES BACK! I LOVE IT

  • @suvrob_chess1677
    @suvrob_chess1677 6 років тому +8

    finegold! raaarrrrr!!!

  • @nealsauer3006
    @nealsauer3006 6 років тому +4

    I DO know Steinitz vs von Bardeleben, so I WILL look smug. The truth hurts, grandmaster Ben Finegold. The truth hurts.

  • @Ronbo710
    @Ronbo710 5 років тому

    Ben's reactions slay me.

  • @senatorsmeagol131
    @senatorsmeagol131 6 років тому

    I really love this man

  • @augustgreig9420
    @augustgreig9420 6 років тому +32

    Is anyone here for actual chess analysis, or is everyone here for the memes?

  • @johnvandenberg8883
    @johnvandenberg8883 6 років тому +1

    Ben is the man!

  • @thijsyo
    @thijsyo 5 років тому +2

    "I got married in Hastings... but not at that tournament"

  • @fabiocanedo6345
    @fabiocanedo6345 2 роки тому +1

    In 3:00, Ben tell us about the open f-file for attacks against white, but the black king is more exposed at the same time. It always seems confusing to me, as a lower rated player, when GMs teaches these classes, they don't mention the double edged nature of the positions. So, either they dont wanna confuse telling too much, or they have a good reason to ignore other stuff, and this reason is bever explained. This makes it so hard to grasp what is going on.

  • @jonniehobby3690
    @jonniehobby3690 3 роки тому +1

    Thumbs up for accurate year pluraling

  • @citcats4377
    @citcats4377 6 років тому

    "Noteboom" as a Dutch person I never thought about pronouncing it like that, I like the english version!

  • @obersturm402
    @obersturm402 6 років тому

    WE ALL LOVE MR FINEGOLD!! HE IS NOT ONLY GREAT AT CHESS (MAYBE NOT AS
    GREAT AS MORPHY, RETI OR CAPABLANCA, BUT STILL, EASILY ONE OF THE BEST
    MASTERS ALIVE) AND HE IS FUNNY ALSO.

  • @michaelbauers8800
    @michaelbauers8800 5 років тому +1

    I wonder if he will ever get a trivia TV show called Win Ben Finegold's money?

  • @aliturk6619
    @aliturk6619 6 років тому +1

    11:20
    So that's where Ben gets his sense of humor

  • @howitsdone1238
    @howitsdone1238 6 років тому +5

    Im going to count how many jokes Ben delivers per video.

    • @jasondoe2596
      @jasondoe2596 6 років тому

      The Online Mentor just don't turn it into a drinking game - it would be fatal :D

    • @fastpace101
      @fastpace101 6 років тому

      Liar

  • @obersturm402
    @obersturm402 6 років тому +2

    I've seen all Finegold episodes (even home series), mastered FINEGOLD-WEST gambit (but please dont transpose it to Kummer line!) and with this gambit i'm simply crushing all IM's and FM's.
    my most profound conlusions after master lectures:
    never play f6 (if you forget about all Mr FIngold advices and still play this move you can simply resign)
    b4 is a bad move (too aggresive)
    dont move same piece twice in a row!!
    good bishop is better than bad bishop
    if there are only kings and opposite bishops on the board you can ask your opponent for a draw (playing for the win makes no sense because bishops cant catch each other)

  • @xDMrGarrison
    @xDMrGarrison 5 років тому +1

    Queen g3 was badass.

  • @AndrewIsbell
    @AndrewIsbell 6 років тому +5

    lmao these are the same games in a lecture from december /watch?v=hfnLOkWvkOM
    Published on Dec 27, 2016
    Grandmaster Ben Finegold shows two historical games from at least a century ago. See one of Steinitz's best at Hastings 1895 and the "Gold Coins Game" from Frank Marshall.

    • @kevinbyrne4538
      @kevinbyrne4538 6 років тому +20

      Ben said that viewers should memorize these games. Knowing that viewers didn't memorize them in 2016, he repeats them in 2017. Eventually, with enough repetition, we'll memorize them.

  • @Detherocable
    @Detherocable 6 років тому +1

    Finagled and The Great Carlini should have a face-off. :P

  • @kylen6430
    @kylen6430 Рік тому

    7:20 hey that’s me!

  • @1Ma9iN8tive
    @1Ma9iN8tive 6 років тому +4

    "Arjun likes Russian ... I told him to slow down"
    Epic chess humour

    • @scroogietw6878
      @scroogietw6878 6 років тому +1

      Isaac Bishara i dont get it :'(

    • @z-man1938
      @z-man1938 6 років тому

      Scroogie TW maybe they play faster??!z i didnt get it either

    • @NihilSubSole
      @NihilSubSole 5 років тому +3

      ORo Hasan Russian is pronounced like rushing

    • @xDMrGarrison
      @xDMrGarrison 5 років тому +2

      @@NihilSubSole Thanks xD I didn't get it when Ben said it, now I'm cracking up. Man Ben is so funny xD

  • @tiagobatista4069
    @tiagobatista4069 5 років тому

    "Ken West does it all the time by mistake" - Priceless

  • @masaya7
    @masaya7 6 років тому +28

    It's in Germany

  • @gunsimar
    @gunsimar 6 років тому

    Love

  • @Athenian888
    @Athenian888 6 років тому +1

    Ben for FIDE president!!!

  • @kylen6430
    @kylen6430 Рік тому

    “What kind of move is that?”
    I was hoping someone was going to say…”A Check!!”

  • @bonerici
    @bonerici 6 років тому +3

    I've played through Nunn's Mammoth Book of the World's greatest chess games so those first two games are very familiar but that last game . . . . how on earth. so confused.
    I am tempted to put that last game on the computer to find all the incorrect moves but I'm afraid it won't quit beeping at me until the next Finegold lesson.

  • @hellcopterts8895
    @hellcopterts8895 5 років тому

    I am a casual chess player so correct me in case i am wrong:
    8:37 isnt better to play Knight E2 check, White King has to go to H1, Black Rook F2, White Rook F2, Black Queen E1, White Rook F1, Black Queen F1 -> Check mate?
    Looks like a guaranteed mate, as played white can still survive trading both queens.

    • @Garryn_
      @Garryn_ 5 років тому

      I know this is hella late, but in this variation, after black pays Rxf2, I don't see how Qd8+ isn't immediately winning for white.

  • @steelyspielbergo
    @steelyspielbergo 6 років тому

    Ben's never heard of the Levitsky attack?

  • @Timepass-cy2ck
    @Timepass-cy2ck 6 років тому +1

    Who is aurgin (orgin) I want to see his picture more then Ben's video 😂😂

    • @JimmyLundberg
      @JimmyLundberg 6 років тому +2

      Incorrect! You were close (but not really close).

    • @ASHISHKUMARDPSG
      @ASHISHKUMARDPSG 6 років тому +3

      tamilans league It's Arjun. Look up "arjun Saint Louis". There's a video of him analysing his game with Jonathan Schrantz.

  • @mamuelpapito
    @mamuelpapito 6 років тому +12

    Why doesnt he grow his beard, i demand answers!!!!!

  • @xDMrGarrison
    @xDMrGarrison 5 років тому

    That last game lol.

  • @channelnamechannel
    @channelnamechannel 6 років тому

    Qe1?

  • @leventeadamszabo5852
    @leventeadamszabo5852 4 роки тому

    That golden shower-joke though...

  • @kiwalks6437
    @kiwalks6437 Місяць тому

    5:45 why not g6

  • @filipdilmaghani9594
    @filipdilmaghani9594 Рік тому +1

    18:31 I'm guessing Karen was in the room.

  • @thechessnerd
    @thechessnerd 6 років тому

    9:14 I’d take the Rook on c5 rather than Queen g3

  • @jsgovind
    @jsgovind 6 років тому +1

    We need kid's class. preferable 1 o clock. :D

  • @jgbarber3375
    @jgbarber3375 6 років тому +2

    So some of you are confused... but... you were confused when you walked in.
    No? Nothing? ... terrible

  • @Rotation364
    @Rotation364 6 років тому +3

    very suspicious

  • @pranayrawat1
    @pranayrawat1 3 роки тому

    why does Ben keeps on making his Bedroom eyes....ROFL

  • @Pincsi01
    @Pincsi01 6 років тому

    it's in germany

  • @cornerstonefencecompanyser8680
    @cornerstonefencecompanyser8680 6 років тому

    5:57 Rxf2 Rxf2 Qe1+ Rf8 Qxf8#

    • @danambru2917
      @danambru2917 6 років тому +1

      Qe1+ it's risky... due to Rxe1 exclam

    • @JohnSutcliffe1988
      @JohnSutcliffe1988 6 років тому +1

      Rf8 instead of Rxe1! Recommended by GM Ken West.

    • @JohnSutcliffe1988
      @JohnSutcliffe1988 6 років тому +1

      But honestly Rxf2 is the best move, cause your idea works with Qa1+ instead of Qe1+.

    • @danambru2917
      @danambru2917 6 років тому

      very suspicious...

  • @websnarf
    @websnarf 6 років тому

    @ 10:56 GM Finegold forgot to mention that Qe5 attempting to defend against Qxh2++ loses Nf3+ Kh1 Rxh2++

  • @FloydMr0709
    @FloydMr0709 6 років тому

    First omg :)

  • @Jealod24
    @Jealod24 6 років тому

    Can someone explain why there is a separate women’s class? And as a developmental psychologist I am well aware of differences seen between men and women... but these differences are negligible except at the extremes, as you would see with any distribution curve. And while men score slightly higher with spatial reasoning, again, it’s not enough to justify an entirely different chess class

    • @irainercosmic7326
      @irainercosmic7326 5 років тому

      AND ME I can't tell if you're joking or not

    • @xDMrGarrison
      @xDMrGarrison 5 років тому

      Probably nobody knows why, but men are just better at chess :P Also isn't the 2000+ level pretty much an extreme?

    • @insouciantFox
      @insouciantFox Місяць тому

      Historical reasons mostly. Now it's used to popularize the game to women, but the "men's" section is really the open section. Women are welcome in the open section, but the highest rated woman is like 2600, while the men reach into the 2800s. That's a clear separation.

  • @malachickisawesome
    @malachickisawesome 2 роки тому

    Dub

  • @PlayerMathinson
    @PlayerMathinson 6 років тому

    "Guess I'm not white"
    -Ben finegold the black guy
    At 28:25 btw and no I'm not racist.

  • @tomer2724
    @tomer2724 6 років тому

    first

  • @giakhanh-piano3849
    @giakhanh-piano3849 6 років тому

    F full
    I intelligent
    N ninja
    E Everest
    G gold
    O online
    L Lamborghini
    D dad
    All of it made in to a great Finegold

  • @backyard282
    @backyard282 6 років тому +1

    terrible

  • @giakhanh-piano3849
    @giakhanh-piano3849 6 років тому

    Why Ben is so fat????? He is a vegetarian.Please answer my question, Ben Finegold. Thank you for the video!