All those who are talking sway bar disconnects are correct. Not much flex when the sway bars are still hooked up. The difference between bound-up and disconnected was amazing on my old TJ....
You really need to disconnect the sway bar. It's as important as airing down your tires. You are missing out on 2 of the most important off-roading advantages you can get by airing down and disconnecting.
I enjoyed watching the excitement you had as a new jeeper, love that you could afford such a nice upgrade. After viewing your video it was obvious this was a real learning experience for you. I have not looked but I can only hope there was a Part 2 made. People can be cruel with some of their comments . You owe it to yourself to make another one with some of the HELPFUL suggestion that were offered. Thanks for making it.
I have a very similar Jeep (2013 2-Door Sport S) on a AEV 3.5” lift and 35” Toyo Open Country R/T tires and 3.73 gearing and it really does well on the trail. I use it a lot on the highway too and it rides well, especially after getting used to the handling.
Kristopher Klassen Avoid Rubicons. Not only are they overpriced for the additional equipment, but those electric discos are very susceptible to rusting out over time. As a result, you'll eventually be replacing them with manual discos or a Currie Anti-Rock, anyway.
Great side by side comparison of stock vs lifted. Just check to make sure the brake lines are long enough at full droop and that your rear shock is not mounted upside down.
I just had to drop a comment because I noticed your North Pole Alaska t-shirt & that’s where I’m watching from! Just bought my first Jeep this week & can’t wait to get it out in the Alaskan wilderness 👍🏼
The new shocks seem like an odd mounting system. They will definitely be applying extra load to the stock bracket that has now been drilled out. I had a similar concept, bolt on kit on a Toyota pickup when I was younger. After a couple 1000 miles offroad the welds on the lower shock mounts fatigued and one side developed a crack. And a similar story with my father's '83 Chevy Suburban that had a dual shock system using the stock lower mounting point. they just weren't designed for the extra forces of the larger diameter pressurized gas shocks. It's just like your mechanic was saying about your driveshaft, It'll work with the lift, but it's going to wear out and fail on you a lot sooner.
Ha HA. A lot of my off road miles were actually on the Baja course over a couple of camping trips. Totally agree that the end user is responsible. I lean more to reliability focused decisions now even if it means less offroad ability. Don't need to get further down a trail if you can't get back;)
Interesting that you broke one side. Ive seen plenty of single shear shock mounting. Its usually fine as long as it's shock only. If its a spring mounting point as well then i would expect it to fail quickly.
Yeah, Steve, both personal cases with it were just using aftermarket kits that switched from the stock, unpressurized, single shocks to dual, pressurized gas shocks. no springs involved. Both aftermarket kits were marketed as improving offroad handeling and installed with the idea that they would help handle the hundreds of miles of dirt driven each time we go to Baja. They did help stiffen the ride and reduce body roll while loaded down with gear, but they both failed on the 3rd or 4th trip with the kits installed.
Never heard that myth. I also don't offroad "as rough as I can". Yes, things will break. I was just offering a thought, similar to the mechanic in this video, that many aftermarket kits add additional stress to the vehicle. It doen't mean you shouldn't lift your jeep. It's just a trade off to concider.
Couple quick and easy tips: - Air down more (shoulda got beadlocks if you really want to run off-road). The tires aren't really wrapping around anything at all. - Disconnect the sway bar. They make quick disconnect kits. - Make sure you've got plenty of brake line for your wheel travel. There's nothing quite like pulling out a brake line 3 miles up a steep trail and trying to figure out how you're gonna get down with no brakes. - locker locker locker locker locker - and gears. It would make the trails soooo much smoother and easier even with the "lsd" that wranglers come with (which is really just an open diff controled by the opposite brake - I.E. sucking power)
Colorado for 60+ years, gone every where I wanted on NASTY roads with 205/55-17's and never seen some place I couldn't get there and back, yes with a winch too. Those shocks are stellar! nice
Joe Mulgrew well he's working with a couple of dumbass kids that don't know their ass from a hole in the ground, but think they are experts. I'd be disinterested as well
I gave a thumbs up because I liked some of your detail and the fact that you tried to show a lot of what the mechanic was doing. Good video over all. I've been 4 wheel driving a lot and surprisingly I've seen basic 82 4x4 Jeep with some decent tires make it up steeper and more challenging climbing or off roading. YOU DO NOT NEED A LIFT.
Tyfunk 02 should be a very 1st upgrade, my opinion. I dont go far on road. Havent had a sway bar on the tj in years. In fact never had 1 on the old cj. Lmao when we got the tj, couldnt believe it had a REAR swaybar too. Removed ! Gone ! Looks great up in my garage attic. The wife drives her jku pretty far. I leave that 1 alone. Lol . i consider the jku offroad when it is in the garage.
That would not be recommended with the stock driveshaft on a '12+ JK with that much lift. Regardless of the exhaust spacers, disconnecting the swaybar could cause the driveshaft to make contact with the exhaust crossover, tear the boot, and damage both the driveshaft and the pipe. The driveshaft should be replaced first.
It does, but that's irrelevant. The issue is with the lift and the resulting angle of the stock driveshaft. Rubi or not, the driveshaft could make contact with the exhaust pipe that runs underneath it and damage both. Many lifted Pentastar JKs typically need an aftermarket driveshaft if you want to disconnect the front swaybar and have the driveshaft clear the pipe when getting that extra articulation.
I ran 10 on my suzuki jimny and slid down a rock front left tire came off the rim, wasnt a fun job trying to pry it back on with a crowbar on the trail😂 but yeah you definitely feel the difference, i run 15 psi after that just to be safe, make sure to keep something handy to pry the tires back on just in case
This looks great for the conversion that you did. In the video I did notice that you have tension on the brake caliper hose when the spring is fully extended. I did a similar conversion to my Disco 2 and my mechanic added in new brake caliper hoses so there is no tension on it during rock crawling.
A lot of folks in the comment section complaining about the guys bothering Devon the mechanic. I get it, I too feel for the Devon trying to do his work in peace lol... but I DO appreciate getting a first person view of the process.
3.73 gears are perfect for 35”s. I ran heavy 35” Toyo RTs for 42k miles on a 16 JK with 3.21s and never had a problem. I have a 17 JKU with 3.73s now and honestly I feel the 3.21s were better for highway cruising with the lower RPM range. I can’t tell much difference RPM wise on the highway from 4.10s in a Rubicon and 3.73s, but the 3.73s are much more responsive in the city. Between the 3 gear sets I think 3.73 is the perfect compromise. I like your lift, but think 2.5” would have been a bit better to decrease the articulation of your driveline. With 35s you’re not getting a lot of extra benefit doing 3.5” on the lift. Can always get custom fenders or cut your stock ones for better flex. Oh and as everyone has mentioned. Get a $40 set of quick disconnects sway bars!
It amazes me how many people want to talk trash to this kid. People need to get over themselves. It takes guts to put yourself out there, and this is produced 1,000 better than most of the garbage out there.
People always want a lift and bigger tires, but for better performance off-road, nothing is more helpful than a rear locker. My first mod would be a rear locker and sliders/protection.
Sway bar disco makes a huge difference in articulating on trails. You probably wouldn't have even slipped disconnected. It keeps all tires better planted to the ground giving better off-road stability and traction.
Very nice modifications. And as already has been said, you'll improve articulation and increase traction (by keeping all four tires on terra firma) if you add some sway bar quick disconnects. Very cheap in comparison to the amount of kit you've already installed!
35s are overkill for that trail. You should've driven to the other end of Bunce and did the Iron Clads trail. I've taken my old YJ with 33s on all of these trails many times. A locker really makes all the difference even if it's just a front locker. For $250 (Spartan) and an couple hours it's absolutely worth it. Wheeling with the sway bar connected an fully inflated tires makes things much tougher than they need to be! You should get an Anti-Rock from Currie or some JKS disconnects and air down to 15 PSI (plenty safe as is in you won't pop a bead and you can drive on the road safely to air back up). 3.5" isn't too agressive of a lift but you could've gotten away with a 2" lift! This would kept your CG lower. To avoid rubbing the fenders you just remove the front ones from a JK (or get something aftermarket) and remove the rear fender flares.
I heard them say they were trying to emulate the conditions and etc of the stock setup. No disconnects. Tire pressure. Etc. in the future they have lots of things to upgrade to make it a great off roader.
Would like to see a total cost and a review on how the lift affects on-road handeling. Good video. I am looking for more of this style. Showing the difference in performance and the actual install...
I enjoyed this video and it's good to see you kept the mistake in about getting the wrong size bolts - we've all done things like that. A shame so many "experts" have seen fit to drone on about "sway bars" whatever they are (anti-roll bars presumably). Constructive criticism is one thing, personal insults says more about the insecurity of the poster rather than the person it was written about.
Man, I put a 4.5 inch lift on my jeep, with an air Ox locker in the rear. You won't even know how to act with a locker. You gotta get that done, I also installed onboard air. Best mods I ever dreamed of.
From factory tyres and height, to a modest 4.5 inch lift and 33 to inch BF Goodrich All Terrain tyres, the difference is incredible on and off the road. On ice and snow, the Jeep sticks like velcro. On a pitted. Country road, the ride is much smoother and stable because of the added width of the tyre. Should you lift your Jeep? In mud and rock, the old Jeep is near unstoppable. The answer is yes. But, going above 33 inch tyres it is recommended to buy new differential gears. But do not let that stop you. When it comes to tyres, bigger is always better.
u right 3.71 or more would make it feel better ...plus added 35 tires i would put a bigger Rotor for better brake .... in my opinon they did a wonderful Job .... haters stay away...its all bout jeep lovers....Jeepers
We is said so many times. And only 1 person was doing any work. I feel bad for Devon, I'm sure he was much happier when that was over and they were gone.
It's been about 6 months now. What is your assessment of the lift and tires? How are the adjustable shocks holding up? Are you happy with the larger tires and stock gearing? How is the on road handling with the lift and tires?
Really enjoyed the format of the video, grat way to illustrate the difference between before and after. -Looks like something was leaking / dripping on to the front diff.....
Love these before and after vids. I purchased my first JKU this year, got her in Gobi (my Gobi Fox). All of my cash is strapped down for my wedding in October. I'll have to wait till next year for a similar setup as yours. How has your gas mileage changed from stock kit? Thanks for Sharing
Yeah yeah ...... about discon front bars and all that , but that fricking Jeep looks goood ! I’m pretty sure he air down , discon sway bars and lock diff at trails 💪🏻
You should add some quick disconnects on the front sway bar. JKS makes some good ones. Get some nice axle flex and better traction. You wont be as tippy.
Did plane crash trail years ago with my stock jk with little trouble. Think I hit my trailer hitch a few times, but nothing major. Need to see how she runs it now with a 2.5". Thanks for the reminder!
Rear shock mounting seems odd with the reservoir and adjuster orientated down vs up. I'd think having all that under water and mud regularly doesn't seem ideal. Also take those shackles off and spray paint them with a rubberized paint, you won't have to listen to the clanking and you'll preserve the pumper paint.
You would expect a bolt on lift kit that goes on a totally Metric Vehicle, to also be Metric. Mixing the two on a vehicle would drive me crazy. Most modern mechanics have very little “freedom unit” tools in their boxes anyway. Unless they specialize in classics.
+japhethwar Mall Crawler? Have freakin' seen our other videos. We drove a Wrangler to the 50 highest points in all 50 states. A 37,000 mile on and off road....road trip.
The Fast Lane Car He was talking about the lift, not the Jeep. And I agree, a locker or two would be a great upgrade for you. They'd probably help out in more real/everyday life scenarios than your short arm lift and tires.
I agree that an inexpensive but effective rear locker is probably the best first upgrade to wheeling. Detroit lockers in the rear aren't expensive, but take some getting used to on the road around corners.
Am I the only one that noticed a potential problem? 1) You torqued the lug nuts back on with an impact wrench. 2) It looked like TWO of you were straining to get the wheel on. How do you plan to change a flat? Did you remember to swap the spare for a 35"? I just want you to be sure you can get it changed before you're out somewhere stuck.
JEEP COMMUNITY HELP QUESTION: Yes I'm ignorant on this, so comparing a 2 door vs 4 door which one would have less chance of roll over going up and down a hill? Which one could trail ride grip better? Which one would get high centered first? I ask because hopefully in 2 years I'll be in a situation to be able to get a Rubicon. In my opinion I like the 2 door soft top look, but I like the room in 4 door to sleep in, or take kids fishing. I'll definitely get the roll cage upgraded first in case of car crash or accident. Safety is my first priority. Thanks everyone
You guys have the manual trans right? The gearing on that really helps make your axle gearing pretty usable. Although if you want to enjoy better power delivery and better crawl ratio you'll move to something like 4.56 in your case. First things first get some quick disconnects for that sway bar and do another video showing how worth it they are. It is night and day I promise.
All those who are talking sway bar disconnects are correct. Not much flex when the sway bars are still hooked up. The difference between bound-up and disconnected was amazing on my old TJ....
Refreshing to see someone actually drive a BLD equipped vehicle properly. Most people don't understand it.
Guy seemed real irritated by having a camera on his face while working. Also what's this "we" you speak of? I saw one guy doing the work.
He did plenty of work, didn't you see him put the center caps on the wheels?
You just read my mind. Devin's looked quite anoyed by constantly having a camera on his face.
Then Thomas mentioning "we"? Pff.
He's working on a Sunday morning and the job's probably taking twice as long as it should because they're filming.
Anyone else think he lost the bolts on purpose? So the guys would leave him alone?
I got the same vibes and thought the same thought
I'm concerned about the location of the rear shock reservoirs and adjustment knob. Seems like they'd take a beating.
I think they’re upside down honestly. Watched another channel of this kit installed and they had them flipped
Congratulations, Tommy! Your Jeep looks great and will be delivering some very good times for you. I'm incredibly stoked for you.
You really need to disconnect the sway bar. It's as important as airing down your tires. You are missing out on 2 of the most important off-roading advantages you can get by airing down and disconnecting.
Yep. That's because he's a noob, just got into wheeling or simply a poser with no real intention of wheeling. Hopefully he will learn one day.
Air the tires down to 10psi and disconnect the front sway bar and it will be SO MUCH better!!!!!
Over all LOVED the video. More like this please!
You should of shown the toll drop ledge like you did when it was stock and the sliders almost touched. That would be a good side by side comparison.
joshua Maneely I agree, I kept waiting for him to show the difference. That was kind of a "duh"!
They don't have their sht together
I enjoyed watching the excitement you had as a new jeeper, love that you could afford such a nice upgrade. After viewing your video it was obvious this was a real learning experience for you. I have not looked but I can only hope there was a Part 2 made. People can be cruel with some of their comments . You owe it to yourself to make another one with some of the HELPFUL suggestion that were offered. Thanks for making it.
I have a very similar Jeep (2013 2-Door Sport S) on a AEV 3.5” lift and 35” Toyo Open Country R/T tires and 3.73 gearing and it really does well on the trail. I use it a lot on the highway too and it rides well, especially after getting used to the handling.
Sway bar disconnects are a great bang for your buck
Turtle Berdley the lift kit they bought comes with quick disconnects.
Buy a rubicon and electronic disconnect swaybars come standard
Kristopher Klassen Avoid Rubicons. Not only are they overpriced for the additional equipment, but those electric discos are very susceptible to rusting out over time. As a result, you'll eventually be replacing them with manual discos or a Currie Anti-Rock, anyway.
But he did not use them!!!!
Joe Stacks his hand might be to weak to disconnect them you don’t know
Great video, but PLEASE DISCONNECT THE SWAY BARS FOR FOR THE LOVE OF GOD!
No chance… it is not a RUBI
Great side by side comparison of stock vs lifted. Just check to make sure the brake lines are long enough at full droop and that your rear shock is not mounted upside down.
I just had to drop a comment because I noticed your North Pole Alaska t-shirt & that’s where I’m watching from! Just bought my first Jeep this week & can’t wait to get it out in the Alaskan wilderness 👍🏼
2 years later still helping people thanks m8 i really enjoyed seeing your experience
The new shocks seem like an odd mounting system. They will definitely be applying extra load to the stock bracket that has now been drilled out. I had a similar concept, bolt on kit on a Toyota pickup when I was younger. After a couple 1000 miles offroad the welds on the lower shock mounts fatigued and one side developed a crack. And a similar story with my father's '83 Chevy Suburban that had a dual shock system using the stock lower mounting point. they just weren't designed for the extra forces of the larger diameter pressurized gas shocks.
It's just like your mechanic was saying about your driveshaft, It'll work with the lift, but it's going to wear out and fail on you a lot sooner.
Ha HA. A lot of my off road miles were actually on the Baja course over a couple of camping trips. Totally agree that the end user is responsible. I lean more to reliability focused decisions now even if it means less offroad ability. Don't need to get further down a trail if you can't get back;)
Interesting that you broke one side. Ive seen plenty of single shear shock mounting. Its usually fine as long as it's shock only. If its a spring mounting point as well then i would expect it to fail quickly.
Yeah, Steve, both personal cases with it were just using aftermarket kits that switched from the stock, unpressurized, single shocks to dual, pressurized gas shocks. no springs involved.
Both aftermarket kits were marketed as improving offroad handeling and installed with the idea that they would help handle the hundreds of miles of dirt driven each time we go to Baja.
They did help stiffen the ride and reduce body roll while loaded down with gear, but they both failed on the 3rd or 4th trip with the kits installed.
Where is this myth that you don't break things going offroading as rough as you can? Of course things will break. And get fixed.
Never heard that myth. I also don't offroad "as rough as I can". Yes, things will break. I was just offering a thought, similar to the mechanic in this video, that many aftermarket kits add additional stress to the vehicle. It doen't mean you shouldn't lift your jeep. It's just a trade off to concider.
Couple quick and easy tips:
- Air down more (shoulda got beadlocks if you really want to run off-road). The tires aren't really wrapping around anything at all.
- Disconnect the sway bar. They make quick disconnect kits.
- Make sure you've got plenty of brake line for your wheel travel. There's nothing quite like pulling out a brake line 3 miles up a steep trail and trying to figure out how you're gonna get down with no brakes.
- locker locker locker locker locker - and gears. It would make the trails soooo much smoother and easier even with the "lsd" that wranglers come with (which is really just an open diff controled by the opposite brake - I.E. sucking power)
Colorado for 60+ years, gone every where I wanted on NASTY roads with 205/55-17's and never seen some place I couldn't get there and back, yes with a winch too. Those shocks are stellar! nice
I hope someone bought that Devon guy a steak, he did not look happy about working Sunday morning....
That mechanic is totaly uninteristed.
Joe Mulgrew well he's working with a couple of dumbass kids that don't know their ass from a hole in the ground, but think they are experts. I'd be disinterested as well
He's like "Shut up! Working here." Actually I'm the same way. I can't multitask.
He's actually a super cool mechanic and probably the cheapest/best value in Boulder. Highly recommend Devon if you are in the area!
Give him a break. Not everyone is used to being questioned on camera whilst they work
It's called being a man intolerant to a couple of douche bags😎.....I felt his pain through the camera
I gave a thumbs up because I liked some of your detail and the fact that you tried to show a lot of what the mechanic was doing. Good video over all. I've been 4 wheel driving a lot and surprisingly I've seen basic 82 4x4 Jeep with some decent tires make it up steeper and more challenging climbing or off roading. YOU DO NOT NEED A LIFT.
Disconnect your front sway bar!!
Tyfunk 02 should be a very 1st upgrade, my opinion.
I dont go far on road. Havent had a sway bar on the tj in years. In fact never had 1 on the old cj. Lmao when we got the tj, couldnt believe it had a REAR swaybar too. Removed ! Gone ! Looks great up in my garage attic. The wife drives her jku pretty far. I leave that 1 alone. Lol . i consider the jku offroad when it is in the garage.
That would not be recommended with the stock driveshaft on a '12+ JK with that much lift. Regardless of the exhaust spacers, disconnecting the swaybar could cause the driveshaft to make contact with the exhaust crossover, tear the boot, and damage both the driveshaft and the pipe. The driveshaft should be replaced first.
Spanked78 Doesn't the rubicon have electronic swaybar disconnects?
Yes. This isn't a Rubicon.
It does, but that's irrelevant. The issue is with the lift and the resulting angle of the stock driveshaft. Rubi or not, the driveshaft could make contact with the exhaust pipe that runs underneath it and damage both. Many lifted Pentastar JKs typically need an aftermarket driveshaft if you want to disconnect the front swaybar and have the driveshaft clear the pipe when getting that extra articulation.
air those tires down to 10 psi and you'd be even more impressed! nice job.
Justin King really impressive till the tires come off like mine did 😂 but yeah good shout pal
Benjamin Downward I run 10 all the time without issue
I ran 10 on my suzuki jimny and slid down a rock front left tire came off the rim, wasnt a fun job trying to pry it back on with a crowbar on the trail😂 but yeah you definitely feel the difference, i run 15 psi after that just to be safe, make sure to keep something handy to pry the tires back on just in case
perhaps making use of those swaybar quick disconects that he just bought... that could make some difference too
Angry Canadian theres no such thing as an angry Canadian
This was really cool being able to see everything going into the lift.
This looks great for the conversion that you did. In the video I did notice that you have tension on the brake caliper hose when the spring is fully extended. I did a similar conversion to my Disco 2 and my mechanic added in new brake caliper hoses so there is no tension on it during rock crawling.
Disconnect the front sway bar links dude. Helps a bunch off road. Great looking jeep/lift.
A lot of folks in the comment section complaining about the guys bothering Devon the mechanic. I get it, I too feel for the Devon trying to do his work in peace lol... but I DO appreciate getting a first person view of the process.
3.73 gears are perfect for 35”s. I ran heavy 35” Toyo RTs for 42k miles on a 16 JK with 3.21s and never had a problem. I have a 17 JKU with 3.73s now and honestly I feel the 3.21s were better for highway cruising with the lower RPM range. I can’t tell much difference RPM wise on the highway from 4.10s in a Rubicon and 3.73s, but the 3.73s are much more responsive in the city. Between the 3 gear sets I think 3.73 is the perfect compromise. I like your lift, but think 2.5” would have been a bit better to decrease the articulation of your driveline. With 35s you’re not getting a lot of extra benefit doing 3.5” on the lift. Can always get custom fenders or cut your stock ones for better flex. Oh and as everyone has mentioned. Get a $40 set of quick disconnects sway bars!
Mechanic: I’m missing 2 pins
Them: well get it
Guy: I can’t believe that actually worked they are finally gone
It looks like you are stretching your rear brake lines when the real axle is articulating whilst off road.
nitropaul Williams great catch
nitropaul Williams i was gonna say the same thing. Can’t just lift and leave the old brake lines on
nitropaul Williams these guys obviously don't know very much about off roading or working on cars in general.
It amazes me how many people want to talk trash to this kid. People need to get over themselves. It takes guts to put yourself out there, and this is produced 1,000 better than most of the garbage out there.
People always want a lift and bigger tires, but for better performance off-road, nothing is more helpful than a rear locker. My first mod would be a rear locker and sliders/protection.
the shock reservoir on the bottom doenst seem like a good position...
Deine Mutter yeah i agree...seems like it’s upside down
It is for them....when it breaks guess what happens next😎
Yea this also seemed strange to me.
Sway bar disco makes a huge difference in articulating on trails. You probably wouldn't have even slipped disconnected. It keeps all tires better planted to the ground giving better off-road stability and traction.
Lockers, lockers, lockers! And now with those big tires you should regear your diff too. Sway bar disconnect Tommy!
A lot of hate in these comments. It’s his Jeep and he can do whatever he wants. Don’t like don’t watch
Very nice modifications. And as already has been said, you'll improve articulation and increase traction (by keeping all four tires on terra firma) if you add some sway bar quick disconnects. Very cheap in comparison to the amount of kit you've already installed!
Anyone else notice how well Tommy is doing in front of the camera? Really coming into his own
I wouldn't worry about the negative comments!! You boys are doing a good job and good videos 👍👍
35s are overkill for that trail. You should've driven to the other end of Bunce and did the Iron Clads trail. I've taken my old YJ with 33s on all of these trails many times. A locker really makes all the difference even if it's just a front locker. For $250 (Spartan) and an couple hours it's absolutely worth it. Wheeling with the sway bar connected an fully inflated tires makes things much tougher than they need to be! You should get an Anti-Rock from Currie or some JKS disconnects and air down to 15 PSI (plenty safe as is in you won't pop a bead and you can drive on the road safely to air back up).
3.5" isn't too agressive of a lift but you could've gotten away with a 2" lift! This would kept your CG lower. To avoid rubbing the fenders you just remove the front ones from a JK (or get something aftermarket) and remove the rear fender flares.
If you off-road disconnect the front sway bar, you will be amazed at what your Wrangler can really do.
I heard them say they were trying to emulate the conditions and etc of the stock setup. No disconnects. Tire pressure. Etc. in the future they have lots of things to upgrade to make it a great off roader.
Omg dude you gotta disconnect that sway bar!
Disconnect your sway bar. I have a 16 jku with a 2.5" spacer lift and 33's and I can do more than that with the sway bar disconnected
Ben Drinkin same setup. I dig it. And very much agree
its a sport, not a rubicon!
Daniel Hagen just because it’s a sport doesn’t mean you can’t disconnect. It’s just a few bolts and something to tuck the sway bar up.
The jeep looks beautiful and more rugged with those 35 "s . Really enjoyed it.
Would like to see a total cost and a review on how the lift affects on-road handeling. Good video. I am looking for more of this style. Showing the difference in performance and the actual install...
Boy, I've never seen JK shocks with the reservoirs on the bottom like that. Seems kind of vulnerable
993mike , I was thinking the same thing.
Those rear shocks need to get turned around. I'd break those adjustment knobs off on the first run.
993mike Me too
993mike they're upside down imo
Going to rip it off by a rock
Best video on the Fast Lane Car yet. Nice work
I enjoyed this video and it's good to see you kept the mistake in about getting the wrong size bolts - we've all done things like that. A shame so many "experts" have seen fit to drone on about "sway bars" whatever they are (anti-roll bars presumably). Constructive criticism is one thing, personal insults says more about the insecurity of the poster rather than the person it was written about.
It looks much better now. Did you all do a speedometer correction to adjust for the tire difference?
KYDashcam yes the mechanic did.
Disconnecting your front sway bar helps a lot, try it and see what you think.
Thanks for the ride... The lift seems like a home mechanic can do it. Nice job.
Lmao, if I was the shop owner, I would totally like TFL come by film it. It is a free advertisement.
Great video Tommy, I did a budget version of yours and took it to Black Bear then Moab. It performed great and I love my Jeep
I'm surprised your dad wasn't following behind in his Raptor saying "But I can do it faster". 😜
Well done. Informative, good camera work, nicely narrated. Great job, thanks.
Re-gear, disconnect sway bar, air down and get a lift with your reservoirs up out of the way of making contact with big rocks.
Love this Tomny. I just bought a 16 JKU Sahara.
Got my whillys 16 last Saturday
so much young guys with a YT car channel nowadays, the good side is the aftermarket parts can go full throttle
more offroad on this channel!
Man, I put a 4.5 inch lift on my jeep, with an air Ox locker in the rear. You won't even know how to act with a locker. You gotta get that done, I also installed onboard air. Best mods I ever dreamed of.
Man, that rattle in the exhaust or whatever it is would be the first mod id tackle!!! Nice vid, chuck a rear locker in and you're sweet!
Good video. I liked the before, install, and after format. You guys are always a little nerdy but it's cool.
From factory tyres and height, to a modest 4.5 inch lift and 33 to inch BF Goodrich All Terrain tyres, the difference is incredible on and off the road. On ice and snow, the Jeep sticks like velcro. On a pitted. Country road, the ride is much smoother and stable because of the added width of the tyre. Should you lift your Jeep? In mud and rock, the old Jeep is near unstoppable. The answer is yes. But, going above 33 inch tyres it is recommended to buy new differential gears. But do not let that stop you. When it comes to tyres, bigger is always better.
u right 3.71 or more would make it feel better ...plus added 35 tires i would put a bigger Rotor for better brake .... in my opinon they did a wonderful Job .... haters stay away...its all bout jeep lovers....Jeepers
Really enjoyed the video! The Jeep looks awesome!!
We is said so many times. And only 1 person was doing any work. I feel bad for Devon, I'm sure he was much happier when that was over and they were gone.
It's been about 6 months now. What is your assessment of the lift and tires? How are the adjustable shocks holding up? Are you happy with the larger tires and stock gearing? How is the on road handling with the lift and tires?
That's really a good choice of hardware there Tommy! Nice work. Now for a rear ARB locker and on-board compressor. Maybe put a TORSEN in front?
Devon is for sure the right guy for this job... Knight Industries Two Thousand
Gears, disconnect rear sway bar and install lockers then it'll be something
This is one of my favorite videos you have done
Really enjoyed the format of the video, grat way to illustrate the difference between before and after. -Looks like something was leaking / dripping on to the front diff.....
Welcome back Tommy!! Haven’t seen you in a while.
"Gotta lube it up and find the hole"
Giggity!
Bye bye axles and brake lines
What jeep year is this ?
The rear axle is fine but rip the front
Love these before and after vids. I purchased my first JKU this year, got her in Gobi (my Gobi Fox). All of my cash is strapped down for my wedding in October. I'll have to wait till next year for a similar setup as yours. How has your gas mileage changed from stock kit? Thanks for Sharing
That sawn-off bump stop is gonna rust, since Devon didn't put any coating on the blank metal before installing the speed bumps.
Yeah yeah ...... about discon front bars and all that , but that fricking Jeep looks goood ! I’m pretty sure he air down , discon sway bars and lock diff at trails 💪🏻
Fun video. Next time you should use the sway bar disconnects.
You guys need to disconnect the sway bar links! You'll get much more flex and performance on the rocks.
I'm sold, want to get a Jeep Wrangler Sport now.
You should add some quick disconnects on the front sway bar. JKS makes some good ones. Get some nice axle flex and better traction. You wont be as tippy.
Did plane crash trail years ago with my stock jk with little trouble. Think I hit my trailer hitch a few times, but nothing major.
Need to see how she runs it now with a 2.5". Thanks for the reminder!
Why is the sway bar still connected, and it will need gears if you Daily drive it. Good video by the way
Exactly it makes 10 x diffrence even on a stock Jeep. quick disconnects are well worth it
This is why you start with a Rubicon
You better worry about the "Geometry" of the drive shaft .. the angle, is pretty important. Like the guy said, it could be trouble down the road.
Tommy's Alaska shirt rocks.
Great video and love the new look! You have come a long way from getting stuck up goldmine hill in the snow. 😊
I have done the t-33 plane crash trail many times. in a mostly stock yj.. and also a tj . it's one of my favorite day trip trails.
Rear shock mounting seems odd with the reservoir and adjuster orientated down vs up. I'd think having all that under water and mud regularly doesn't seem ideal. Also take those shackles off and spray paint them with a rubberized paint, you won't have to listen to the clanking and you'll preserve the pumper paint.
Great video.... almost makes me miss my jeep. Can't wait to see it when you lock it up .
How can you expect us to trust you when you don't even know the difference between a metric and standard bolt?
I agree...that seemed like something a young kid would do....not young men...especially men talking about offroad upgrades
They hardly know the difference between a nut and a bolt
What is a standard bolt? You mean 'imperial'....
You would expect a bolt on lift kit that goes on a totally Metric Vehicle, to also be Metric. Mixing the two on a vehicle would drive me crazy. Most modern mechanics have very little “freedom unit” tools in their boxes anyway. Unless they specialize in classics.
Travis Prillwitz the control arms are freedom units
Nice Vid! Love watching TFL Jeep coverage!
Guys, they probably had to get his permission to film there. It's not a public place (on the contrary, it's his own shop).
A four hundred dollar locker would have been a far better upgrade than that mall crawler lift.
+japhethwar Mall Crawler? Have freakin' seen our other videos. We drove a Wrangler to the 50 highest points in all 50 states. A 37,000 mile on and off road....road trip.
The Fast Lane Car He was talking about the lift, not the Jeep. And I agree, a locker or two would be a great upgrade for you. They'd probably help out in more real/everyday life scenarios than your short arm lift and tires.
japhethwar yup a locker is a must even if all you have is two wheel drive
I agree that an inexpensive but effective rear locker is probably the best first upgrade to wheeling. Detroit lockers in the rear aren't expensive, but take some getting used to on the road around corners.
@@MrJoshItIs I think he has a limited slip rear differential. Not full lock, but doesnt that help?
Am I the only one that noticed a potential problem?
1) You torqued the lug nuts back on with an impact wrench.
2) It looked like TWO of you were straining to get the wheel on.
How do you plan to change a flat? Did you remember to swap the spare for a 35"?
I just want you to be sure you can get it changed before you're out somewhere stuck.
JEEP COMMUNITY HELP QUESTION: Yes I'm ignorant on this, so comparing a 2 door vs 4 door which one would have less chance of roll over going up and down a hill? Which one could trail ride grip better? Which one would get high centered first? I ask because hopefully in 2 years I'll be in a situation to be able to get a Rubicon. In my opinion I like the 2 door soft top look, but I like the room in 4 door to sleep in, or take kids fishing. I'll definitely get the roll cage upgraded first in case of car crash or accident. Safety is my first priority. Thanks everyone
Nice. What's next? Sway bar disconnects for more articulation?
Anyone else notice Anthrax “time” playing when he went in for the lift?
You guys have the manual trans right? The gearing on that really helps make your axle gearing pretty usable. Although if you want to enjoy better power delivery and better crawl ratio you'll move to something like 4.56 in your case. First things first get some quick disconnects for that sway bar and do another video showing how worth it they are. It is night and day I promise.