Excellent job Shawn in explaining how the sole of the club should be at address! I will definitely take note of your advice and make adjustments if needed. I also just found you channel on You Tube and have become a new subscriber. Looking forward to working my way through your library!
This is one of the best golf instructors on UA-cam and it’s not even close. I’ve been following his instruction over the past 4-5 months and I’ve taken 10+ strokes off my game. I get so many compliments on my swing every time I hit the course. Grip, chipping, tempo, you name it he’s got it. Shawn and Team thanks sooo much. I’m a big fan and watch your videos right before I head to the range.
Hey David! Thank you for taking the time to write in, so happy that you are enjoying your golf and applying these simple techniques to your game man! 👍😀👌💪
So, the stiffer the shaft the less droop, the more the club should be flatter at address? Generically speaking, of course. Love all your videos and insight.
Typically, if you need stiff shafts it is because you can move them, and with more G force, droop ends up about the same…to a robot with same speed, yes, less droop!👍😀
I tried this today. The results were instant. I was already playing well, but this simple, easy, change took me to a new level, on all my clubs, straight through driver. Amazing difference!
Thanks Shaun. For some silly reason I my irons flat at address. I just tried with the toe up and and I was making a completely different ball strike. Felt so much better. I even hit my 5 iron really well. Can’t believe I’ve been addressing the ball like that for so long 🙃
That is the biggest trap in the game; to be static at address with the ball instead of feeling dynamically engaged to collect the ball from where it and releasing it into the flight you want it to go to the target with.
Great Video - got a question as my current swing high hands in setup, and sole completely on the ground and grip bottom pointing way above my belt bucket - but then WHILE impact my hands are way more down (also my hole body and head more than compared to setup) and therefor the shaft is more shallow and while this pushing the clubbed into the ball and I am hitting with heel / shanks etc.. So i am wondering if that high hands COULD - in this case - leads to heel strikes although you are showing that tow down at setup is probably more a toey hit in impact...
First off, Okay! Holy crap Shawn! I have been watching a ton of your videos and it has helped me hit my irons faster, longer, harder with more consistency (now i just need my distance control to adjust for the newfound distance). But this video, THIS VIDEO, was an ABSOLUTE GAME CHANGER for me. I was setting up with the sole of my club flat with the ground (or maybe even more towards the toe on the ground). I just hit the range for the past hour, hit about 80 balls. Once i dialed in the feel of dropping my hands lower and lifting the toe of the club up at address, the change in my swings was unfathomable! Especially on my 5 wood, 3 wood and driver. I cant even remember the last time I even wanted to hit my driver. I would top it, chunk it, duff it, whatever. Even when I got decent contact it would go maybe 10-15 feet in the air, carry maybe 150-175 most times and run out to maybe 225. Today at the range, I was CONSISTENTLY carrying my drives 250y plus. The ball flight was exactly what i was looking for too. No actual data from a launch monitor but the flight was easily 90-100ft high. WAY better than my normal 15-30 feet high. The set up has brought my ball flight back to a bit more of a fade than I would like but I can work that out fairly easily (I hope). Was carrying my 3 and 5 woods around 200-220 pretty consistently as well. With numbers carrying down as expected from 4 iron to SW. I know this video is already over a year old but, my word, this video was a game changer for me today. You are an absolute gem of a teach Shawn!
This is why lie angle is so important in making sure your clubs fit you. You can buy an impact board for around $10, and it’s worth that just to have one on hand so you can check it occasionally. I’ve played the game for 65 years, and I learned the hard way that lie angle is absolutely critical for your iron game. If your irons are too upright for you, the heel will dig in and you’ll hit everything left (for a right-hander). If they’re too flat, the toe will dig in and you’ll hit everything right. Take it from an experienced old man, make sure your lie angle is correct before even starting to work on your golf swing.
Just saw a lesson video you posted where you explained this to a student, also urging him to lower his hands. I did both of those things today and I suddenly gained distance and was hitting really flush shots, even with a 4 iron. Amazing day, all thanks to the grounding and hand position tips. Thanks Shawn!
Nice one. I’ve recently been taking lessons from my local golf pro, the lessons have made such a difference. I watch these videos to supplement my lessons. If you guys are looking to seriously improve go and get a lesson from a pro who can give real time feedback.
Hi Shawn. I have always played with my hands up but not high like you've just shown and suffered from the shanks, yesterday I lowered my hands and yes my arms hung naturally and felt more comfortable toe of the club up and guess what no more shanks hit the center of the club every time, golf is fun again.
Thanks this helped me huge. Going from using a flat sole hands high for years and this year changing my swings. Having the toe up a bit I was really confused
I've been watching you for a year or so and I struggled with the super strong grip,I now understand why and the reason for me is because I'm standing to upright almost straight, back issues I guess but I'm good now and still standing up right, habits I guess. I even got some ping g25 irons that are green dot and still blocking to the right. Like a baby fade,always missing the green on the right and short, I've lost lots of distance this year at 71. I did manage to get get my cap down to a 9 from the white tees , in the summer months but now back to a 12 cap . I live in abbotsford BC where we play almost all year round and I played over 200 rounds a year out in royalwood in chilliwack BC. But going back to the super strong grip when I do that I hooked the crap with my irons we are talking left of left hahaha, but now I understand the posture issue and lowering of my body and hands, I will continue to work on this and I will work also on staying behind with the body tilting back and not lunching like obviously I'm doing now trying to keep it straight. My drive's are always in the middle at under 200 like landing at 180 my golfing buddies call me buntman lol. I play with a friend that hits a 100 yards or more than myself and he's a +1 cap , So you see my dilemma in wanting more length and getting on the green so I can putt which I do well. Shawn thanks for sharing and listening to my wows Harvey Buntman
Hey Harvey! You need to get with our premium channel at www.wisdomingolfpremium.com and see the “senior series” and the “long and straight driver series” to start with and then send in your swing for analysis and I will point you to the videos that will get you to your next level.
This is a really really important video!! The suggested dynamic aspect of the body posture and club head during the golf swing are absolutely critical. Just watch any professional swing and you'll see they all do these things consistently.
You simply cannot have THE SAME low hands with Driver as with irons; you cannot have the same distance from the hands to body with driver vs irons as the shaft length is very different! See “distance to ball with all clubs Shawn Clement” on youtube and an oldie but goodie “swing plane update shawn clement” This is one of the first things I address in the primary Driver video on my premium channel.
Love your videos Shawn. For some reason the opposite works better for me. I went to a pro years ago and he changed my toe up position to a flat position and it changed my game dramatically. I immediately became more consistent and less stress on my back as I was standing taller.
i'm a firm believer of natural 2 plane swing. my guess is, lots of compensation needed if you try to bring your hands to the same spot at impact as it is at adress (looking from behind). so not only toedroop in calculation. therefore toe up pretty much at adress for me, and it works well and effortlessly.
Yes, always try the clubs before you buy them; either go to a PGA tour superstore and hang out for a day and try out the different irons that are more suited for your game and then book a fitting to see which shafts and lie angle and length would go with them; or take the plunge and go to Club Champion and tell them I sent you and to treat you properly as I will be supervising the specs once they are done if you are a member of our premium channel.
@@golflessons - I am proud to say that I have been an Eagle member for more than three years!! :) I will give see if I can arrange with Club Champion for sure - Thanks for the quick response!!! Oh yeah and thanks for allowing me to really get enjoyment form such a great game!!
@@tomparisi804 you are so welcome! Next video analysis, confirm with me that you are going and I will tell you what to look for when you go for your fitting on the audio file!
@@golflessons Thanks Shawn will do - BTW really appreciate the assistance!! BTW do you do any touring where you give lessons when not home in Canada? Are these dates posted somewhere if you do?
Thank you for the video I am so happy that I already ordered my new golf clubs and they are 1 inch longer and one upright that is such a coincidence that you are making this video I am so thankful...
Sean, this video is awesome! This is exactly one of the issues that I am having playing golf. Thank you for explaining this! Now I know why I have been hitting pushes and hitting the ball of near the heal of the golf club!
Not sure how i ended up here but wow! My iron game has been dreadful lately and I was ready to sign up for lessons. Going to try this first! Never knew this!
Shawn explains the physics well. Dynamic vs static analysis makes sense when high speed angular forces in play. It sounds complicated but then not when thinking about a simple task like cutting grass!
This is great info, thanks Shawn. On May 24th, I had total right knee replacement. I'm impressing the physical therapist with my flexibility so far. do you have any golf instruction to do while I wait for my surgeon releases me to return to golf? Thanks, I always pick up something when re-watch your videos!
With this new way to grip the club like an umbrella and posture I was hitting the ball straight or a little draw last night at the range. Thank you very much for the videos. Do you have any on putting.
Just don’t try to keep it flat; you take your dynamic posture, you pre-deploy the arm-club unit to the dynamic arc you are going to be delivering with and bring this to the ball.
@@golflessons I think that is what I’m doing when I hit bad. I try to get the bottom flat at address. This really helped. I usually hit my driver great but it happens from time to time I get too upright
Shawn, will the bending of the shaft also affect the ball placement at address e.g. slightly closer to the toe? A good player in my local club gave me the advice to place the ball ever so slightly closer to the toe when playing with more flex shaft because of the bending of the shaft. Never read/heard that anywhere else. Thanks!
It is dependant on how the individual sees the ball from their vantage point; some of my students actually think they see the ball in the centre of their club when they have it off the heel and some have it off the toe. It could have been in that spirit that this individual was speaking...😝😀👍
I have known this for years but I really think it exposes the need to have a fitting to suit one's swing. If one uses a more Moe Norman. Little Mo , Bryson, or Hogan swing stance then they will need a more upright clubhead to account for this downward force in the downswing. Then do we also have to examine the shallowing of the club on the downswing and see how this affects the lie? These boards are readily available and as always the proof is in the pudding. Are you getting the results you want?
Does this apply to hybrids and higher lofted fairway woods as well? My confidence at address is high with the irons but not so much with my hybrid and fairway wood. I feel like I’m missing something at address with those clubs as compared to my irons. Any tips/videos would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
See all the “fairway woods shawn clement” videos and see the concept of how they should ride the turf first and then the set up should fall into place.
How do you know if your clubs need lengthened? I’ve noticed at 6’3 a lot of the time my hands look too low. Is that because of lie angle or shaft length and should I look into it or just hold the club more straight up and down.
Arm length (or wrist to floor distance) would be a main factor IMO. Changing to a longer shaft will also make a clubhead heavier to swing. If your clubs feel good to swing I´d just make sure the lie angles fit your swing.
What if you swing less than 90 mph and have a regular flex shaft do I still need to do this at address? Love the video. I have been putting my club flat on the ground
You are hitting AT THE BALL instead of delivering through the arc-blur over the intermediate point and into the flight plan! See “pulling shots left shawn clement” as a start!
So when I am looking at my irons at the face, the grooves do not travel all the way to the toe of the club, it stops short about a 1/2 or more. The vertical/stopping line should be pointed towards the player slightly is what you are saying?
It’s ironic that I’m seeing this because my PingG Irons that were fitted to me, I’m 6’1” half inch longer My swing then I stood too much upright with very little knee bend. Since trying to duplicate your posture and knee bend I notice that club stood toe up which freaked me out but the ball went straight. Talk about misconceptions
Little details the make big differences! 👌👍 You feel like your ass is to grass and the hands lower than ever; then you take a video from down the line and…wow! Looks really good!
What makes him different is the fact he is delivering through the ball and not at the ball; 99% of golfers who set up the way I show in this video are thinking of matching their set up with how the club sits and being static with the ball and then get ready to hit the ball as their target.
I always feel that I can't get the club head flat, instead the heal seems to be off the ground at setup. Is this because I need more upright clubs? I'm very tall at 6'6" tall and have difficulty getting any lower at setup without feeling like I'm doing a squat at setup.
I must be the only person playing golf that goes against this teaching. After playing this game for about 30 years I was encouraged to get “fitted” for some game improvement shafts. This was before all the high tech equipment but not before the marking board. After a series of trial and error it was determined that the shafts that Ping had in my new irons was way too stiff for anyone even John Daly. After my new shafts were put in I was put on the marking board.
I don't see how the shaft bends the way you show at the beginning of the video during the unloading of the shaft when it comes through impact. If you swing it like an axe I can see the head/shaft bend that way. When you see slow motion of swings the shaft is loaded the other way. That's the lag tension you want for more speed through impact no?
So from a technical physics reaction, should the amount of toe raise at address change with each club as the physical club speed changes the amount ofdroop of the club head?
The key here is to not try to sole it flat; each club has a different length and ALSO A DIFFERENT LIE; take a look at the specs page of any iron model and you will see the lies get more upright as the shaft lengths get shorter.
And, the prep to each shaft before assembly; each shaft gets tipped (trimmed from the bottom) and then cut from the top (butt of shaft) according to the club head’s weight; as the clubs get shorter, their head weight is heavier...
Totally disagree. Laying the club flat solved a slice for me. Toe up, slice city. I played minor league ball and semi-pro for 25 years. The biggest detriment my golf swing is my "baseball" swing. Bad analogy. I stopped golfing, very rarely anyway, because one game (baseball) does not help the other(golf). BUT I will remember to take a piece of plywood out on the course and hit off of it instead of the ground.
Hi Shawn - I’m a premium member as well and love the content. I just noticed my irons are flat on the ground and I hit them pretty solid. When I put the toe up just slightly I feel much more hunched over and I hit a couple of good ones but also hit 2 6 irons in a row off the neck and badly skulled them left (I’m a lefty). Any advise? - thanks
Hey Brian! It is not about the sole of club being raised; it is about not trying to keep it flat. If you feel your posture is solid and allowing you to deliver through the ball towards the target with flush contact, DON’T TRY TO FIX WHAT IS NOT BROKEN!! 😀👍
I get that with the heel flat it ruins your grip and posture forcing you to be more upright, but you don't explain how, when you bend over more with the toe up. It's going to magically flatten at impact. Why won't the toe still be up?
Because of all the G-forces in the swing that make the shaft bow when the toe of club pulls down on it; I say it in the video but it’s hard to absorb 100% of anything the first time watching😝
What you are missing is how human anatomy shallows out the club in the downswing so naturally without thinking when YOU ARE DELIVERING A NICE THROW TO THE DIRECTION OF FLIGHT! Look at how a baseball player sjallows out the bat as he commits to a pitch!
Thank you so much! This swing allows me to carry my driver over 300 yards both right and left handed and score at even par at any course I play; so much fun! I LOVE MY SWING!!
Excellent job Shawn in explaining how the sole of the club should be at address! I will definitely take note of your advice and make adjustments if needed. I also just found you channel on You Tube and have become a new subscriber. Looking forward to working my way through your library!
Welcome home John! You will see quite a wonderful evolution since 2007! 😀👍
This is one of the best golf instructors on UA-cam and it’s not even close. I’ve been following his instruction over the past 4-5 months and I’ve taken 10+ strokes off my game. I get so many compliments on my swing every time I hit the course. Grip, chipping, tempo, you name it he’s got it. Shawn and Team thanks sooo much. I’m a big fan and watch your videos right before I head to the range.
Hey David! Thank you for taking the time to write in, so happy that you are enjoying your golf and applying these simple techniques to your game man! 👍😀👌💪
Agree 100%!!
So, the stiffer the shaft the less droop, the more the club should be flatter at address? Generically speaking, of course. Love all your videos and insight.
Typically, if you need stiff shafts it is because you can move them, and with more G force, droop ends up about the same…to a robot with same speed, yes, less droop!👍😀
I have watched hundreds of golf instruction videos and once again you are the only one out there discussing things like this. You are awesome!
Thank you very much! How the human attaches the tools to itself is a big deal! 👍😀
I tried this today. The results were instant. I was already playing well, but this simple, easy, change took me to a new level, on all my clubs, straight through driver. Amazing difference!
I cant believe I'm just finding this out... Thankyou Shawn! Love all your videos
better late than never Joe!!
Fighting this toe hit problem for years. You resolved the problem in four minutes.
So happy I was able to help Herb! 😀👍
Thanks Shaun. For some silly reason I my irons flat at address. I just tried with the toe up and and I was making a completely different ball strike. Felt so much better. I even hit my 5 iron really well. Can’t believe I’ve been addressing the ball like that for so long 🙃
That is the biggest trap in the game; to be static at address with the ball instead of feeling dynamically engaged to collect the ball from where it and releasing it into the flight you want it to go to the target with.
Great Video - got a question as my current swing high hands in setup, and sole completely on the ground and grip bottom pointing way above my belt bucket - but then WHILE impact my hands are way more down (also my hole body and head more than compared to setup) and therefor the shaft is more shallow and while this pushing the clubbed into the ball and I am hitting with heel / shanks etc..
So i am wondering if that high hands COULD - in this case - leads to heel strikes although you are showing that tow down at setup is probably more a toey hit in impact...
First off, Okay! Holy crap Shawn!
I have been watching a ton of your videos and it has helped me hit my irons faster, longer, harder with more consistency (now i just need my distance control to adjust for the newfound distance).
But this video, THIS VIDEO, was an ABSOLUTE GAME CHANGER for me. I was setting up with the sole of my club flat with the ground (or maybe even more towards the toe on the ground).
I just hit the range for the past hour, hit about 80 balls. Once i dialed in the feel of dropping my hands lower and lifting the toe of the club up at address, the change in my swings was unfathomable!
Especially on my 5 wood, 3 wood and driver. I cant even remember the last time I even wanted to hit my driver. I would top it, chunk it, duff it, whatever. Even when I got decent contact it would go maybe 10-15 feet in the air, carry maybe 150-175 most times and run out to maybe 225.
Today at the range, I was CONSISTENTLY carrying my drives 250y plus. The ball flight was exactly what i was looking for too. No actual data from a launch monitor but the flight was easily 90-100ft high. WAY better than my normal 15-30 feet high. The set up has brought my ball flight back to a bit more of a fade than I would like but I can work that out fairly easily (I hope).
Was carrying my 3 and 5 woods around 200-220 pretty consistently as well. With numbers carrying down as expected from 4 iron to SW.
I know this video is already over a year old but, my word, this video was a game changer for me today.
You are an absolute gem of a teach Shawn!
Amazing how small details make a big difference when you are aligning everything around a nice task to a target! way to go! 👍💪👌
Shawn, I think you are living in my brain. I was just struggling with this and trying to figure out a consistent way to to set up!
Haha, yes! And you are welcome Brother!
Thank you Shawn. For all the videos you put out for free.
This is why lie angle is so important in making sure your clubs fit you. You can buy an impact board for around $10, and it’s worth that just to have one on hand so you can check it occasionally. I’ve played the game for 65 years, and I learned the hard way that lie angle is absolutely critical for your iron game. If your irons are too upright for you, the heel will dig in and you’ll hit everything left (for a right-hander). If they’re too flat, the toe will dig in and you’ll hit everything right. Take it from an experienced old man, make sure your lie angle is correct before even starting to work on your golf swing.
Just saw a lesson video you posted where you explained this to a student, also urging him to lower his hands.
I did both of those things today and I suddenly gained distance and was hitting really flush shots, even with a 4 iron. Amazing day, all thanks to the grounding and hand position tips. Thanks Shawn!
Amazing what a little leverage can do! Now you can see why Keegan Bradley can paste it from that posture!
Thanks a bunch for this one. It explains why those errant shots off of the toe happen in my swing.
Take care.
I love the beach ball analogy!
Nice powerful visual! 👍😀
This was a good one, great to see you outside!
Nice one. I’ve recently been taking lessons from my local golf pro, the lessons have made such a difference. I watch these videos to supplement my lessons. If you guys are looking to seriously improve go and get a lesson from a pro who can give real time feedback.
Hi Shawn. I have always played with my hands up but not high like you've just shown and suffered from the shanks, yesterday I lowered my hands and yes my arms hung naturally and felt more comfortable toe of the club up and guess what no more shanks hit the center of the club every time, golf is fun again.
👊👍🫶👌💪
Thanks this helped me huge. Going from using a flat sole hands high for years and this year changing my swings. Having the toe up a bit I was really confused
I've been watching you for a year or so and I struggled with the super strong grip,I now understand why and the reason for me is because I'm standing to upright almost straight, back issues I guess but I'm good now and still standing up right, habits I guess. I even got some ping g25 irons that are green dot and still blocking to the right. Like a baby fade,always missing the green on the right and short, I've lost lots of distance this year at 71. I did manage to get get my cap down to a 9 from the white tees , in the summer months but now back to a 12 cap . I live in abbotsford BC where we play almost all year round and I played over 200 rounds a year out in royalwood in chilliwack BC. But going back to the super strong grip when I do that I hooked the crap with my irons we are talking left of left hahaha, but now I understand the posture issue and lowering of my body and hands, I will continue to work on this and I will work also on staying behind with the body tilting back and not lunching like obviously I'm doing now trying to keep it straight. My drive's are always in the middle at under 200 like landing at 180 my golfing buddies call me buntman lol. I play with a friend that hits a 100 yards or more than myself and he's a +1 cap ,
So you see my dilemma in wanting more length and getting on the green so I can putt which I do well. Shawn thanks for sharing and listening to my wows Harvey Buntman
Hey Harvey! You need to get with our premium channel at www.wisdomingolfpremium.com and see the “senior series” and the “long and straight driver series” to start with and then send in your swing for analysis and I will point you to the videos that will get you to your next level.
Thanks for the video! What about woods?
See our “fairway woods shawn clement” and “driver speed and smash shawn clement” videos
This is a really really important video!! The suggested dynamic aspect of the body posture and club head during the golf swing are absolutely critical. Just watch any professional swing and you'll see they all do these things consistently.
Thank you for the great comment! 👍😀
This is a game changer for me ! The toe up technique has elevated my game! Thxxxxx
I go back and forth with driver and low or high hands. I'm only 5'10 and low hands feels strange. What do you advise for driver and shorter people?
You simply cannot have THE SAME low hands with Driver as with irons; you cannot have the same distance from the hands to body with driver vs irons as the shaft length is very different! See “distance to ball with all clubs Shawn Clement” on youtube and an oldie but goodie “swing plane update shawn clement”
This is one of the first things I address in the primary Driver video on my premium channel.
@@golflessons Thanks, I will check those out.
With your mention of this last week, I took it to the range and then played my lowest round this season......THANK YOU!
Right on David! When things go well on the course, it is the greatest feel! 👍😀👌💪
Love your videos Shawn. For some reason the opposite works better for me. I went to a pro years ago and he changed my toe up position to a flat position and it changed my game dramatically. I immediately became more consistent and less stress on my back as I was standing taller.
I am sure there is context there; some are too crouched and need a pick me up! 👍😀
i'm a firm believer of natural 2 plane swing. my guess is, lots of compensation needed if you try to bring your hands to the same spot at impact as it is at adress (looking from behind). so not only toedroop in calculation. therefore toe up pretty much at adress for me, and it works well and effortlessly.
100% explains my constant push. Im a south paw and had to compensate by aiming my stance right.
Hey there Shawn - another great video!!! I am going to get fitted for a new set of clubs and was wondering if you had a recommendation. Thank you!
Yes, always try the clubs before you buy them; either go to a PGA tour superstore and hang out for a day and try out the different irons that are more suited for your game and then book a fitting to see which shafts and lie angle and length would go with them; or take the plunge and go to Club Champion and tell them I sent you and to treat you properly as I will be supervising the specs once they are done if you are a member of our premium channel.
@@golflessons - I am proud to say that I have been an Eagle member for more than three years!! :) I will give see if I can arrange with Club Champion for sure - Thanks for the quick response!!! Oh yeah and thanks for allowing me to really get enjoyment form such a great game!!
@@tomparisi804 you are so welcome! Next video analysis, confirm with me that you are going and I will tell you what to look for when you go for your fitting on the audio file!
@@golflessons Thanks Shawn will do - BTW really appreciate the assistance!! BTW do you do any touring where you give lessons when not home in Canada? Are these dates posted somewhere if you do?
@@tomparisi804 will be doing a road trip in October; send me an email at info@wisdomingolf.com and tell me where you are and I will let you know!
Thank you I was having trouble with my irons . This is the answer I needed
Thank you for the video I am so happy that I already ordered my new golf clubs and they are 1 inch longer and one upright that is such a coincidence that you are making this video I am so thankful...
Great vid big bro !!!
Sean, this video is awesome! This is exactly one of the issues that I am having playing golf. Thank you for explaining this! Now I know why I have been hitting pushes and hitting the ball of near the heal of the golf club!
You are so welcome! This is a very common issue that can easily be fixed! 😀👍
Great video as always so the heel should be down and toe tilted up off the ground correct ?
Not sure how i ended up here but wow! My iron game has been dreadful lately and I was ready to sign up for lessons. Going to try this first! Never knew this!
Shawn explains the physics well. Dynamic vs static analysis makes sense when high speed angular forces in play. It sounds complicated but then not when thinking about a simple task like cutting grass!
What is that plastic board for? Where do you buy it?
Just a lie board you get from the manufacturers when you fit their clubs
Awesome video!
I absolutely must remember this at all times.
Does this have to do with proper fitting or proper address?
Both!😀👍
This is great info, thanks Shawn. On May 24th, I had total right knee replacement. I'm impressing the physical therapist with my flexibility so far. do you have any golf instruction to do while I wait for my surgeon releases me to return to golf? Thanks, I always pick up something when re-watch your videos!
Some short game! 👍😀
With this new way to grip the club like an umbrella and posture I was hitting the ball straight or a little draw last night at the range. Thank you very much for the videos. Do you have any on putting.
You are welcome; and you bet we have putting!! Just search “putting shawn clement’s wisdom in golf”
@@golflessons Thank you sir, you are the best.
Toe up on driver too?
Just don’t try to keep it flat; you take your dynamic posture, you pre-deploy the arm-club unit to the dynamic arc you are going to be delivering with and bring this to the ball.
@@golflessons I think that is what I’m doing when I hit bad. I try to get the bottom flat at address. This really helped. I usually hit my driver great but it happens from time to time I get too upright
Shawn, will the bending of the shaft also affect the ball placement at address e.g. slightly closer to the toe? A good player in my local club gave me the advice to place the ball ever so slightly closer to the toe when playing with more flex shaft because of the bending of the shaft. Never read/heard that anywhere else. Thanks!
You won't do,it's nonsense
It is dependant on how the individual sees the ball from their vantage point; some of my students actually think they see the ball in the centre of their club when they have it off the heel and some have it off the toe. It could have been in that spirit that this individual was speaking...😝😀👍
Great video, thanks!!
I have known this for years but I really think it exposes the need to have a fitting to suit one's swing. If one uses a more Moe Norman. Little Mo , Bryson, or Hogan swing stance then they will need a more upright clubhead to account for this downward force in the downswing. Then do we also have to examine the shallowing of the club on the downswing and see how this affects the lie? These boards are readily available and as always the proof is in the pudding. Are you getting the results you want?
Exactly, we always want to take a dynamic approach to one’s anatomy and swing speed combined...
Does this apply to hybrids and higher lofted fairway woods as well? My confidence at address is high with the irons but not so much with my hybrid and fairway wood. I feel like I’m missing something at address with those clubs as compared to my irons. Any tips/videos would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
See all the “fairway woods shawn clement” videos and see the concept of how they should ride the turf first and then the set up should fall into place.
How do you know if your clubs need lengthened? I’ve noticed at 6’3 a lot of the time my hands look too low. Is that because of lie angle or shaft length and should I look into it or just hold the club more straight up and down.
When you get to the wedges, you feel like they are junior clubs and they feel uncomfortable to swing; that os a great indication!
Arm length (or wrist to floor distance) would be a main factor IMO.
Changing to a longer shaft will also make a clubhead heavier to swing. If your clubs feel good to swing I´d just make sure the lie angles fit your swing.
What if you swing less than 90 mph and have a regular flex shaft do I still need to do this at address? Love the video. I have been putting my club flat on the ground
Do you have a video UA-cam video that addresses going across the line at the top of the backswing ?
Just watched your video on a hands low swing, I have been doing this but hit deep divots with the irons what’s wrong 😤😤
You are hitting AT THE BALL instead of delivering through the arc-blur over the intermediate point and into the flight plan! See “pulling shots left shawn clement” as a start!
Big fan. I applied this and lost distance and my downswing got much steeper. Where do you think I went wrong?
Are you throwing the club out to the target or trying to hit the ball?
Does this apply to driver as well?
See my response to brushymtngolfer...👍😀
So when I am looking at my irons at the face, the grooves do not travel all the way to the toe of the club, it stops short about a 1/2 or more. The vertical/stopping line should be pointed towards the player slightly is what you are saying?
Another way to look at it! 👌👍
Like the beach ball analargy.
It’s ironic that I’m seeing this because my PingG Irons that were fitted to me, I’m 6’1” half inch longer My swing then I stood too much upright with very little knee bend. Since trying to duplicate your posture and knee bend I notice that club stood toe up which freaked me out but the ball went straight. Talk about misconceptions
Little details the make big differences! 👌👍
You feel like your ass is to grass and the hands lower than ever; then you take a video from down the line and…wow! Looks really good!
Good video
what about the way Bryson DeChambeau swings the same plane swing and what about the same length clubs????
What makes him different is the fact he is delivering through the ball and not at the ball; 99% of golfers who set up the way I show in this video are thinking of matching their set up with how the club sits and being static with the ball and then get ready to hit the ball as their target.
And one length is fine; works very well; see the videos I did for that!
How often should one get their irons checked and adjusted with the board?
If you have forged heads, every year; if their are cast heads, never.
I always feel that I can't get the club head flat, instead the heal seems to be off the ground at setup. Is this because I need more upright clubs? I'm very tall at 6'6" tall and have difficulty getting any lower at setup without feeling like I'm doing a squat at setup.
Look at the Ping static fitting chart; follow the instructions and see if your specs match up!
@@golflessons Thanks!
Hi Shawn - i really love this video - this could be one of your better vids!!!
I notice when you show the sole of the club the lines are not perpendicular to the face, does this represent a very open face?
I must be the only person playing golf that goes against this teaching. After playing this game for about 30 years I was encouraged to get “fitted” for some game improvement shafts. This was before all the high tech equipment but not before the marking board. After a series of trial and error it was determined that the shafts that Ping had in my new irons was way too stiff for anyone even John Daly. After my new shafts were put in I was put on the marking board.
I don't see how the shaft bends the way you show at the beginning of the video during the unloading of the shaft when it comes through impact. If you swing it like an axe I can see the head/shaft bend that way. When you see slow motion of swings the shaft is loaded the other way. That's the lag tension you want for more speed through impact no?
You would have to see it with a phantom camera at 20 000 frames per second...
@@golflessons ah, yeah I can't see that fast 🤣
So from a technical physics reaction, should the amount of toe raise at address change with each club as the physical club speed changes the amount ofdroop of the club head?
The key here is to not try to sole it flat; each club has a different length and ALSO A DIFFERENT LIE; take a look at the specs page of any iron model and you will see the lies get more upright as the shaft lengths get shorter.
And, the prep to each shaft before assembly; each shaft gets tipped (trimmed from the bottom) and then cut from the top (butt of shaft) according to the club head’s weight; as the clubs get shorter, their head weight is heavier...
Club design should take care of this physical phenomenon, so the answer is NO.
Totally disagree. Laying the club flat solved a slice for me. Toe up, slice city. I played minor league ball and semi-pro for 25 years. The biggest detriment my golf swing is my "baseball" swing. Bad analogy. I stopped golfing, very rarely anyway, because one game (baseball) does not help the other(golf). BUT I will remember to take a piece of plywood out on the course and hit off of it instead of the ground.
Hi Shawn - I’m a premium member as well and love the content. I just noticed my irons are flat on the ground and I hit them pretty solid. When I put the toe up just slightly I feel much more hunched over and I hit a couple of good ones but also hit 2 6 irons in a row off the neck and badly skulled them left (I’m a lefty). Any advise? - thanks
Hey Brian! It is not about the sole of club being raised; it is about not trying to keep it flat. If you feel your posture is solid and allowing you to deliver through the ball towards the target with flush contact, DON’T TRY TO FIX WHAT IS NOT BROKEN!! 😀👍
Shawn Clement’s Wisdom In Golf Lessons thanks Shawn
Lower hands, hands hanging vertically below your axis point, much better face control, less fat shots,
I get that with the heel flat it ruins your grip and posture forcing you to be more upright, but you don't explain how, when you bend over more with the toe up. It's going to magically flatten at impact. Why won't the toe still be up?
Because of all the G-forces in the swing that make the shaft bow when the toe of club pulls down on it; I say it in the video but it’s hard to absorb 100% of anything the first time watching😝
I fail to understand how you get the club in the slot from such a steep backswing. I mean, it's completely vertical 🤷♂️
What you are missing is how human anatomy shallows out the club in the downswing so naturally without thinking when YOU ARE DELIVERING A NICE THROW TO THE DIRECTION OF FLIGHT! Look at how a baseball player sjallows out the bat as he commits to a pitch!
Subtitles are messing up this vidéo. They cover the most important part of the screen
I do not agree, specially with wedges low hands at address cause heel shots that tend to hook and take big divots.
the question is, are you delivering THROUGH THE BALL AND INTO YOUR FLIGHT PLAN with the fastest part of the swing well past the ball?
that's a terrible swing
Thank you so much! This swing allows me to carry my driver over 300 yards both right and left handed and score at even par at any course I play; so much fun! I LOVE MY SWING!!
That’s an ugly ass swing