Apple & Polaroid's Intertwined Legacy [Instant Breakdown]
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- Опубліковано 21 сер 2024
- Those rainbow logos are only the start of the incredible mirrored pasts of Apple and Polaroid, led by truly kindred visionaries Steve Jobs and Edwin Land respectively.
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It’s a shame Dr. Land often gets forgotten in favour of Steve Jobs and others like him
The day you die is the day no one remembers your name. Edwin Land will be immortal for the foreseeable future.
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It's super interesting that Land pulled out a wallet roughly the size and thickness of our phones now and reminisced about being able to take a picture with it. What an incredible place we've made it to in 50 years. From capturing photos instantly with a Polaroid, to now capturing a photo with our phones instantly, and also being able to share that with the world instantly.
That’s one of the wildest visuals, the ultimate Landstradamus moment, and thank goodness they got it on film (this is one of very few widely circulated videos that even exist of the man). Just shows what kind of foresight that man had.
@@InAnInstant "Man's used his Big brain"
By the way Ben I have some weird trivia that I'm not sure if it's true???
*" Edwin land didn't like the sx-70 one step "*
The reason why they said it was because he didn't like the short-term profits he rather be inventive
Also I've heard that you can't find a *picture of Edwin land without him wearing a tie* I guess if you find one consider that as a rare find
Loving that halt and catch fire shirt!
IT’S THE THING THAT GETS US TO THE THING
@@InAnInstant I was 2.5 minutes in when I was like.. Wait a minute... Is that what I think it is?
Polaroid is relatively obsolete but the beauty and amazing science behind the cameras and photographs that they create still amaze people till this day and thats what i love about them, i love polaroid so much
Awesome video sir!
Why don’t you already have 500 thousand subscribers! Seriously you work is some of the best quality content on UA-cam. Period.
Thank. You. Fam! I hope the audience for this stuff continues to grow!
Thank you for this. I've always considered Dr Land on a par with Steve Jobs in terms of being a visionary. The big difference between them was that Jobs was much more of a showman. I was fortunate to attend a lecture by Dr Land in London shortly after the SX-70 was launched. Much of what he said was aimed at an audience of engineers (and thus went way over my head) but you could miss the sheer innovation of his ideas. Let's hope history treats him more kindly.
Haha, this is basically the essay I wrote for one of my seminar classes a few years ago in college. Would've been useful for research back then
Amazing video as always, Sir Ben! It's fascinating how similar these two companies are so similar. Imagine if Land tried to pull a Jobs, would be kinda interesting to see a digital camera with that signature rainbow stripe.
If (quite a few) things went differently, who knows, maybe Polaroid could have remained the innovator they always were and remained at the forefront of technological evolution. Imagine if they’d stayed ahead and debuted the Polaroid phone in 2005, stunning audiences and making Blackberry users question their very reality.
Both of them had never gone for marketing research as they were not seeing themselves creating products but
LIFESTYLE
I love the sounds in this
Thank you for noticing that!
Thank God you didn't connect today's Polaroid with the Polaroid of days gone by. Oskar's attempt to duplicate Jobs duplicating Dr. Land during the debut of the Impossible I-1 was embarrassing, especially when he snapped an "instant" photo of the audience and showed them an ambiguous undeveloped print (which required 45 minutes to fully process - Ain't No Body Got Time Fo Dat) and upon realizing this...he just shrugged. Ever since then, we are fortunate that he stopped trying to elevate himself to the status of being a cult visionary. Great vid. History spot on.
Such great quality and topics, I wish you a ton of success!
Thank you so much Siana!!
Orson Welles said it the best; "WHEN I AM GONE,...THEY WILL ALL LOVE ME" - James D. Watkins, artistic director of PHOENIX PRODUCTIONS.
What a great premise, theme and topic! Very interesting... I enjoyed this a lot. Nicely done!
Thanks Jackie! Appreciate that!
The level of quality this channel brings, is by far greater than channels with millions of subs. You definitely deserve a much bigger following, however I am glad to be here so early!
Haha thanks mate, I can only hope we can get more eyes on these. Still unclear what the size of the audience is for content like this. Hoping it’s yoked!
Fascinating. Never heard of him until a few days ago when I started researching Instax and Polaroid. The film of him pulling out his wallet imagining a camera so small it fit in the pocket, you took a picture, and put it back in your pocket, was very prescient. Back then it would have sounded almost insane, although he imagined a film camera with instant film, and tiny spy cameras did exist.
That clip is absolutely incredible, especially the amount it resembles an iPhone - just the perfect “genius inventor predicting the future” footage. I think Land would have been very happy with the state of digital imagery; the function of phone cameras is sort of what he wanted all along.
Very interesting video, Ben! I never knew how similar these men were regarding their visionary powers. We all know the Steve Jobs legacy, but your video compares Land’s methods and it’s quite revealing. Great job. Anthony.
Thank you Anthony! They are definitely two of the most compelling geniuses of the 20th & 21st centuries. But few know of Land's true impact, especially on Jobs. Thank you for watching!!
superb video!
A few things I learned over the years while learning about the similarities between both companies was that, the 30 pin connector is very very close to the size of a flash bar socket size. You can almost fit it in there, not sure if that was Steve Jobs’ intention. Another thing was how white iphone faces were almost like when you look at polaroids, and how the rainbow colors for Polaroid’s logo are the same shades as apple’s rainbow logo.
Another great , well shot and informative video Ben 👍🏼
Your videos are great dude!
Yo thank you Jason!!
Really enjoying your videos Ben, looking forward to see more of them. Keep up the good work!
Thanks Cap!
Great video! Keep it up. I wish more people would see this, you're making interesting videos with great production and quality
Thank you mate!
Great and important channel, KEEP ON!!!
Love the music by the way!
Thank you mate! Keeping on!
How do you not have more subscribers wtf
I'm working on it 😂😂😂
You my friend, are a truly a Polaroid nut (in the nicest possible way). Those of us that are into both brands have long held these views :) It's weird that the younger generation do not make the link that Polaroid were HUGE!
Truly! It’s hard to even imagine the scale of Polaroid to people who just regard it as a niche thing. Well, it is now, but it had bonkers heat for 25 years.
Superb, as always.
Great video.
Thank you mate!! Appreciate you watching the vids ✌🏻
Superb video thank you for educating me today. Brilliant!
Thanks Em!!
i love your videos
It's soo interesting that Steve Jobs was soo interested at polaroid
Anyway nice video Ben!
Thanks BP!
Nice idea of subject !
I have to say something that MAYBE it's a bit controversial, because Jobs in the US was a very respected and revered figure. But, after reading the biography of Jobs I didn't like him that much in many senses (I'm more fan of Steve Wozniak, the "brains" behind the first Mac computer), but I will focus on photography and related.
I'm not trying to argue or create controversy. I'm just explaining all the info I have about those two figures and why I prefer the "original" over the "copy".
TLDR: Edwin Land was more capable, better, more innovative and deserved more merits than Jobs. Specially because Jobs didn't invented nothing, just turned "pretty/flashy" actual existent technology, with the exception of the iPod and maybe the iPhone (just in the app store concept and app software system if we don't count the disaster of WebApps, and even with iPod, actual MP3 players were much better and versatile than iPods because of their constraints such as iTunes sync and so on).
Edwin Land was an expert on the field he worked while Jobs, IMHO at least, was suffering something I call, the "Hideo Kojima syndrome", a creative visionary that wanted something at all costs, but he just provided the ideas and direction (sometimes a bit of design maybe), but he NEEDED capable and expert people to actually make reality of all of his ideas because he was almost illiterate (I repeat, ALMOST, he had some knowledge but he would be impossible for him to really create and design all the products with that precision, specially in the Jobs/Wozniak era). And of course, when all was allright, was THANKS TO HIM, not their team, not their workers and designers (with the exception of Jonathan Ive) that were that much capable of making Jobs dreams and imagination into real life, but thanks to Jobs.
Edwin Land on the other way, was an active worker and director of his projects. The only limitation is that it was one man and hundreds of patents on, for example, the SX-70. He was not only a visionary, but a real "man of science". In the so called "Hideo Kojima syndrome" joke I did earlier, he would have been the equivalent of an alternate universe Kojima that DID ACTUALLY knew programming, assembling, texturing, shading, composing music and sound, etc...".
Also, Edwin Land inventions in Polaroid, many of them are for ART, something not bound to technology or even programmed obsolescence. A brilliant polaroid picture will be always art as much as an oil on canvas, no matter the format or camera, and after the Polaroid first death, people was asking for a return. An 80gb iPod model actually is just...a pretty and beautiful obsolete, almost useless, gadget, except if you use 3rd party software to make it live again. Tech world is so ethereal that you cannot really grow bonds with it...OK, maybe the iMac G4 "Flexo" and Mac OS X "Tiger" with Aqua/Brushed metal Interface are the only exceptions. Do Apple will make a comeback with it? for me this was the real "Polaroid SX-70 pinnacle" equivalent in Apple.
It would be unfair also to compare how Jobs treated their workers compared to Land (Jobs was rumored of having short temper, anger bursts and was very hard to work or empathize with him, to the point of even avoiding Jobs in the elevator), specially because I don't know how Land treated their employees. Land, the worst I know about him, was that he was so stubborn about the Polavision that finally has to resign his position as Chairman in Polaroid because he was literally ruining it. If someone has some info for more comparison would be nice.
That's why I prefer Edwin Land. He was a real man of science and also charismatic enough to make the original "distortion of reality fields" in their keynotes and public demonstrations. A real historical figure that was more far away from his era than Jobs when invented modern Macs and even OS X.
Definitely good points made here, I've read the Jobs biography and yeah, I mean he was a ferocious asshole (but a genius nonetheless). Maybe the most striking thing I learned from that book was that Steve Jobs smelled bad, not ideal. I suppose I certainly could have mentioned in this video the major differences you've pointed out, specifically their technical aptitudes. Edwin Land was a scientific genius far beyond what Jobs actually provided to Apple, and both of them had their blindsides, but I think Jobs' advantage is that he turned over MULTIPLE world-changing projects. Whether or not he had the technical mastery to build the machines themselves is perhaps less globally relevant to the fact that he repeated his success with many impactful releases.
The way I look at it, you could compare the iPod to the SX-70. If Jobs had stopped at the iPod, people would still love him. Just as people love Edwin Land who more or less "went out" with the SX-70. Jobs, however, then advanced to the iPhone. Land never got to that next level, creating "the next SX-70" that would set them up for the future. Polaroid was a technology company and after Land blew it with Polavision, that technology never turned over into the next generation. Jobs kept pushing and that's why his work is still so prevalent to our daily life. Can you blame Land for giving up? I don't know. But he had 20+ years of good work left in him that he didn't use to create anything else notable (after Polaroid he still actively worked, but abandoned products essentially).
All this being said, I still am a Landboy, obviously, and agree with most all of your points here!
@@InAnInstant Good points there! Agree in that way too ;)
Albeit I'm more an "Android/Linux" boy lol, but I have to admit that the war for cellphones was starting with iPhone, and that made Android and the other projects further advance. Something positive...
Another similarity is the design of the first iPhone and Sx70 when closed. They both have a similar shape and a connection port at the bottom (flash port / charging port)
In that footage of him mimicking a camera with his wallet, he does that motion to the lightening port 😂
I’m sure someone has pointed out that SX-70 is merely chrome plated plastic. That said, another similarity between the two is that neither company wanted you messing with their fab creation. Both created special screws to keep you out. The SX-70 used 1mm square Robertson bit, never used by anyone else and still nearly impossible to find. Apple used their lovely Pentalobe screws to slow down iPhone meddlers.
I’m sure people will be commenting “the SX-70 is actually chrome plated plastic” for years to come, strangely no one acknowledges that chrome plating...is a metal layer. Anyway, indeed about the “hack-proof” method of encasing these bad boys and also the “closed system” of the product ecosystem is a major similarity.
Where are the Edwin Land Oscar-bait biopics??
In my script drawer, next to my Kodak/Polaroid fan fic
I just wanted to say, I'm not sure if this is true but my great grandpa worked for polaroid in 1948, I that Acurate?
That’s probably something you would know better than me.
In An Instant, I just didn’t think Polaroid existed in 1948, I just figured it might have been very strange to try and introduce a new type of film, right when the public was just being introduced to film
Polaroid was founded in 1937 so it’s totally accurate that your great grandpa might have worked for them in 48
Ben
*(not backwards compatible)*
And another weird fact I have a dog named Ben , Like no joke
Yo.. send me an SX-70 or an SLR680. Just kidding.. Unless.. No its ok.. or maybe?
Sincerely, Finn
Haha...unless. No lol just kidding. Or maybe? Ha only a joke then. Or if... 👉🏻😳👈🏻
@@InAnInstant No i was just joking lol.. unless.. no its ok.. not really.. it is.. I'll be fine.. no i won't.. I'll save up for one.. my parents said that i need to start saving up for a car.. maybe just one more expensive purchase.. no.. yes.. idk
Finn Nahrung probably go with a car... unless?
@@InAnInstant haha no. unless.. no. INSTANT PHOTOGRAPHY FOREVER!!!.
Do not like apple at all. but I love Polaroid :)
Although the 'metal' SX-70 is plastic, with a brush chromed plating.The camera body (apart from the braces for the bellows) is all plastic.
Indeed.
SX-70 is not metal, only the frame inside. The outside is just galvanized plastic. Sadly, it can break easily at the
hinges. 😟
Figured multiple people would comment this haha, slip of the tongue.