@@patrickcampbell957 Also, kinda terrible micro by stats, those zealots were there forever before getting cleaned up and could've killed a bunch of scv's instead of that bunker. (not that I'd do any better cuz multitasking, but something to notice)
@@brycematthew3115 (i dont really know what i'm talking about) Relatively, I wouldn't call it terrible micro because a zealot run-by is normally 0 micro. You a-move and thats it. That's one of the things that makes it good, as it takes more effort from your opponent to deal with than it took for you to send it over, giving you more time to micro/macro.
@@brycematthew3115 If you just a-click the zealots, they do exactly what happened there, they spasm out because they won't attack idle SCVs (those are not a threat) but they also won't attack SCVs in the mineral line (bc the bunker is nearby, shooting at them). Stats would either have to hold position his zealots (then they attack whatever they're close to, would've been the smart move here) or he would've had to shift-click the SCVs one-by-one which is incredibly bad if the SCVs are pulled away. So the best option would've been to hold position 4 zealots near the bunker (killing the shielding SCVs there) and putting like 6 zealots in the mineral line on hold position (denying any mining) and then killing the bunker whenever the shielding SCVs are dead. That's a lot of micro though.
it’s really funny to listen to how Tastosis reacts to the fail scouts the amount of fail scouts in a pro game could be compiled into a new series (which I think I would fully enjoy)
Since wings of liberty with MMM play. Protoss units are slow as fuck, its very difficult for them to defend multiprong attacks properly. Its why recall, mothership cores, pylon overcharge and shield batteries were created throughout the sc2 series to help protoss with their weak defense.
@The Future Is Unity And any attempt to help protoss be able to handle that kind of thing people have never endlessly complained about and have gotten nerfed or removed in some fashion. It's kind of been the same game different day type of scenario for PvT where it's mass bio vs whatever protoss attempts to do.
@@ionracas8743 Well that's because bio opening is very safe and with tanks terran can deal with basically all protoss ground troops pretty well. Even if protoss manage to overcome terran bio, terran still have the option to abuse protoss slow movement speed to do multi prong attacks or even force a base trade. Bio is very versatile against protoss until protoss goes late game airtoss.
@@DrakonXLYR It likely means that Blizzard is going to monetize the Starcraft IP in other forms (MMO, mobile games, etc) and that all future quality RTS content will come from Dreamhaven and Frost Giant.
4:32 Stat's Zealots: "Brothers destroy this terran bunker at all cost!My life for Auir!!!" Tastetossis: "Lol look at those zealots not killing the bunker,why are we even watching them fail so miserably,they are unable to do anything,yeah totally unable to do anything at all there" Stat's Zealots : "Damn we just got savaged by the casters" Legend says those Zealots were so embarrased after this game,they left Stat's army and became bronze league zealots.
This is a really unusual build from TY. I love the build though, Marauders pretty much deal with anything but workers, adding the hellions and medivac really helps this timing. Cloak Banshee after the timing is hilarious, you force so much from the Protoss they probably won't have an observer for a while, I guess the downside to all this fanciness is the lack of a base though. 4:27 That's a fucking planetary. Man what a game though, I felt like Stats had a chance there to win if he kept 1 or two disruptors with the gateway army there.
The early game aggression did a lot of damage but in reality, it really HAD to do a lot of damage. You can see after the Banshees get pushed out that the worker count is pretty much even - and that's AFTER TY killed a ton of workers with his Banshees.
Far from OP lol, its like saying nuke is OP if it landed on opponent's army units or killing a whole mineral line. In pro games players can spot the red dots and dodge disruptor shots consistently. There is actually a proper counter play that's why its not OP. Not to mention disruptors gets the most value against bio play because of how the units can be clump up. But even so, with good micro to split and abusing the fact that protoss splash units like archons and disruptors are slow as fuck to do multiprong attack and harass, TY totally countered protoss even thou disruptors and archons are supposedly the counter to bio. Disruptors are good but definitely not OP since there's many counter play against it.
As a Protoss I actually agree that Disruptors are a strange unit. It brings a level of quasi randomness to games as it can hit very hard or totally wiff and do nothing depending on milliseconds. Starcraft 2 already has such concepts to a certain degree with splash damage, but if you compare to banelings, the baneling seems far less random. Widow mine drops, however, is something I don't like, just like the Disruptor. It can do nothing or it can end or turn the game almost instantly. You can't really compare that to a drop, a good blink, a surround or other tactics. I agree that skill does compensate a little for the randomness, but I still think the unit design is more entertainment than it is balancing for a professional scene. Same with widow mines. Banes are fine.
@@ParleLeVu banelings can wiff if you move all the drones and it explodes only 1 or 2, and you get more uses out of mines and disrupter than a baneling
@@Bullybob77 They certainly can, and they can be killed before they are in range of something to damage, but they are much more predictable and have a logical cost/benefit ratio. Widow mines for instance can kill an endless amount of workers if they are clumped, at the cost of almost nothing. 400 resourses and a medivac that usually gets away. They almost always get 4-6 workers and in disaster scenarios get your entire worker line, maybe 2 worker lines. And if they don't they will disrupt probably 300-600 resourses of lost mining time. It's simply too strong. Disruptors in capable hands can decimate an entire army because of half a second of microing somewhere else. It's brutal. Or they can end up doing absolutely nothing for a relatively high price.
Damn, that was so painful to watch for Stats. However, he still played really well, considering how much the cheese at the start hurt him. The only real counterplay I could think of is to get more vision with observers to spot the drops or some cannons to slow them down. Maybe just getting like a 11 DT hit squad to insta snipe CCs and blink away would have helped to even things up a bit since TY’s army is split up so much. (Even then his dark shrine kept getting sniped)
If Stats hadn't managed to land his Disruptor shots like 95% of the time this would've been a 6 minute game, tops. The only reason he hung on this long is he just made god-tier shot after shot with those. And you know the whole time TY was just sitting there thinking "omg I can't believe he did it AGAIN!" Stats was probably thinking the same with those non-stop main drops though.
TY had some good splits later on in the game but he did lose a LOT of bio to those disruptors early. On top of that he got a big chunk of his bio wiped by the archon flank too.
I always root for protoss but TY just outmaneuvered Stats every game that series. Stats was an absolute rock this game though - he took so much damage all game and still almost won.
I really think the load speed into medivac should be nerfed. Something like 2 units at one or something. It's not punishing enough when you screw up the drop, you just fly away instantly with the boost. Seems like a bad design to me, especialy when there is an hour distance between main and 3rd, but you can fly between them like in 1 sec...
They would not do anything cannons take too long to kill a medivac and die very fast to the dropped bio. The only counter as far as i can tell is to keep a large number of stalkers in the main and have very fast reactions to snipe the medivacs. Only terrans are allowed to easily counter other terrans drops by putting a few turrets up. Zerg and Protos dont really have a real counter other than to scout the drop in the first place.
There are so many entry point, its not possible to stop drop harass with cannons only unless you have cannons in every corner. Its better to just have some shield batteries around and warp in units to defend. Not to mention in late game with upgrades and big drops, cannon dps fall off really quickly, Terran can just drop units on the cannons and still destroy everything.
TY is literally mechanically twice as good as Stats, and on top of that he threw everything Terran had in the book - and somehow Stats still manages To stay in the game after losing SO MUCH. Balance this game already, fucking ActiBlizzard.
are you. kidding me? stats used every possible trick from the protoss and cant even beat a group of marine and. maurauder, without ghost. Balance the game already
people keep complain terran op, see how terran player come up with all these strategy and micro, whereas the other race just come up with a death ball army and A move to win
God I hate disruptors lmao I don't think there's any unit in the game that requires so much micro from the enemy to react, requires so little micro from the user to control, and deals so much damage if it isn't reacted to properly. Maybe at this level it doesn't matter as much balance-wise but they just feel so badly designed to play against.
He didn't tear the high tier army apart, he lost almost every fight against the high tier army. However he outmanovered the high tier army and instead attacked the bases. Before that he used tanks and vikings the hinder the protoss expanding towards him.
That's because with stim and medivacs bio units scale well into mid or even late game. Even zerglings with adrenaline also scale well in late game. Protoss gateway units are truly tier 1 units that basically loses much value after 10-15mins mark. If opponent does not have specific counter or splash, Terran bio with upgrades are as good as tier 3 units. Disruptors is a counter, but in this case Terran countered its counter by abusing protoss units' slow moving speed to avoid direct engagement thus won the game. This has been an old strat since wings of liberty by doing multi prong drop harass and attack against slow protoss units. Which is why blizzard came up with recall, mothership cores, pylon overcharge and shield batteries to help protoss with its lousy defense.
Terran mech and pretty much all T3 combos get absolutely raped by just about any Protoss composition ya dumbie. Also, if you think MMM vs archon, chargelot, and disruptor is easy then try it yourself ya whiny puss.
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Nice build from TY. But you have to admit that Stats defended that complex attack godlike.
I now understand why they call him the shield of aiur
True! I think his building/unit positioning + micro was pretty incredible. For not knowing till the last second, he defended very well
@@SC2HL having the Shield Batter in the mineral helps A LOT
I expected him to quit 2 minutes in. Thats what I would've done but he somehow hung on
They don’t call him the Shield of Auir for nothing.
Steven Seagal neck breaking build 😂😂
Listening to the Tastosis, the casting Archon, always puts me on the edge of my seat. Top quality casting, and great jokes too
@@Tenetri the best casters defenetly my favorites
4:27 The hold position SCV's in front of the bunker showcasing TY's galaxy brain.
Not really it's a pretty easy strat
@@patrickcampbell957 Also, kinda terrible micro by stats, those zealots were there forever before getting cleaned up and could've killed a bunch of scv's instead of that bunker. (not that I'd do any better cuz multitasking, but something to notice)
@@brycematthew3115 (i dont really know what i'm talking about)
Relatively, I wouldn't call it terrible micro because a zealot run-by is normally 0 micro. You a-move and thats it.
That's one of the things that makes it good, as it takes more effort from your opponent to deal with than it took for you to send it over, giving you more time to micro/macro.
@@patrickcampbell957 easy in a vacuum. Not easy on the spot when you have 7 other things going on
@@brycematthew3115 If you just a-click the zealots, they do exactly what happened there, they spasm out because they won't attack idle SCVs (those are not a threat) but they also won't attack SCVs in the mineral line (bc the bunker is nearby, shooting at them). Stats would either have to hold position his zealots (then they attack whatever they're close to, would've been the smart move here) or he would've had to shift-click the SCVs one-by-one which is incredibly bad if the SCVs are pulled away.
So the best option would've been to hold position 4 zealots near the bunker (killing the shielding SCVs there) and putting like 6 zealots in the mineral line on hold position (denying any mining) and then killing the bunker whenever the shielding SCVs are dead. That's a lot of micro though.
it’s really funny to listen to how Tastosis reacts to the fail scouts
the amount of fail scouts in a pro game could be compiled into a new series (which I think I would fully enjoy)
Idk if you can call it a failed scout. I’d call it close encounters of the vision kind
wrgg
No ghosts or libs required. Just pull the portoss apart without ever needing to have a head on clash
Since wings of liberty with MMM play. Protoss units are slow as fuck, its very difficult for them to defend multiprong attacks properly. Its why recall, mothership cores, pylon overcharge and shield batteries were created throughout the sc2 series to help protoss with their weak defense.
@The Future Is Unity
And any attempt to help protoss be able to handle that kind of thing people have never endlessly complained about and have gotten nerfed or removed in some fashion.
It's kind of been the same game different day type of scenario for PvT where it's mass bio vs whatever protoss attempts to do.
@@ionracas8743 Well that's because bio opening is very safe and with tanks terran can deal with basically all protoss ground troops pretty well. Even if protoss manage to overcome terran bio, terran still have the option to abuse protoss slow movement speed to do multi prong attacks or even force a base trade. Bio is very versatile against protoss until protoss goes late game airtoss.
But you need insane apm to pull it off
@@jmmasters6100 That's why I'm admiring his insane skills
When the aliens attack these men have to be earths generals
tasteless an artosis....i never tire of these two :) best casters ever
I actually love this channel keep it up
And also what do u think blizzard is planning based on what they previously released? Ill be sad if sc2 dies
@@ianstadtlander9736 I read that a bunch of SC2 and WC3 devs left Blizzard to make their own studio. Not sure what that means though
@@DrakonXLYR It likely means that Blizzard is going to monetize the Starcraft IP in other forms (MMO, mobile games, etc) and that all future quality RTS content will come from Dreamhaven and Frost Giant.
@@StarboyXL9 "Don't you guys have phones?"
Something about that 3:27 "Its a bit much..." is just so low key savage and hilarious XD
Ironically this is the game were Stats was closest to a win.
wrr
4:32 Stat's Zealots: "Brothers destroy this terran bunker at all cost!My life for Auir!!!"
Tastetossis: "Lol look at those zealots not killing the bunker,why are we even watching them fail so miserably,they are unable to do anything,yeah totally unable to do anything at all there"
Stat's Zealots : "Damn we just got savaged by the casters"
Legend says those Zealots were so embarrased after this game,they left Stat's army and became bronze league zealots.
2:57 NO MAN LEFT BEHIND!
8:40 nope, one man left behind ;)
This is a really unusual build from TY. I love the build though, Marauders pretty much deal with anything but workers, adding the hellions and medivac really helps this timing. Cloak Banshee after the timing is hilarious, you force so much from the Protoss they probably won't have an observer for a while, I guess the downside to all this fanciness is the lack of a base though. 4:27 That's a fucking planetary. Man what a game though, I felt like Stats had a chance there to win if he kept 1 or two disruptors with the gateway army there.
I hate how smart TY is and how easily he destroys my favorites.
The early game aggression did a lot of damage but in reality, it really HAD to do a lot of damage. You can see after the Banshees get pushed out that the worker count is pretty much even - and that's AFTER TY killed a ton of workers with his Banshees.
@@danlorett2184 Yeah felt like a build where TY wanted to just annoy his opponent with this opening that forces them even.
@@Necroneer - Any lesser 'Toss would've been tilted into oblivion by the 5 minute mark.
That marine control is too good almost scary to watch
Crazy game! I can't believe Stats held on for so long, they start would have demolished me!
Such a SlayerS´Boxer play, loved his build where he flew four barracks to enemy base in sc1 :D
That was absolutely insane! What an action-packed ride
this game was absolutely crazy, awesome performance from both
i know disruptor is such a hard unit to use, but man, that thing is really op well used
I wouldn't call it OP if it requires a lot of skill to use properly
Far from OP lol, its like saying nuke is OP if it landed on opponent's army units or killing a whole mineral line. In pro games players can spot the red dots and dodge disruptor shots consistently. There is actually a proper counter play that's why its not OP. Not to mention disruptors gets the most value against bio play because of how the units can be clump up. But even so, with good micro to split and abusing the fact that protoss splash units like archons and disruptors are slow as fuck to do multiprong attack and harass, TY totally countered protoss even thou disruptors and archons are supposedly the counter to bio. Disruptors are good but definitely not OP since there's many counter play against it.
As a Protoss I actually agree that Disruptors are a strange unit. It brings a level of quasi randomness to games as it can hit very hard or totally wiff and do nothing depending on milliseconds. Starcraft 2 already has such concepts to a certain degree with splash damage, but if you compare to banelings, the baneling seems far less random. Widow mine drops, however, is something I don't like, just like the Disruptor. It can do nothing or it can end or turn the game almost instantly. You can't really compare that to a drop, a good blink, a surround or other tactics.
I agree that skill does compensate a little for the randomness, but I still think the unit design is more entertainment than it is balancing for a professional scene. Same with widow mines. Banes are fine.
@@ParleLeVu banelings can wiff if you move all the drones and it explodes only 1 or 2, and you get more uses out of mines and disrupter than a baneling
@@Bullybob77 They certainly can, and they can be killed before they are in range of something to damage, but they are much more predictable and have a logical cost/benefit ratio. Widow mines for instance can kill an endless amount of workers if they are clumped, at the cost of almost nothing. 400 resourses and a medivac that usually gets away. They almost always get 4-6 workers and in disaster scenarios get your entire worker line, maybe 2 worker lines. And if they don't they will disrupt probably 300-600 resourses of lost mining time. It's simply too strong.
Disruptors in capable hands can decimate an entire army because of half a second of microing somewhere else. It's brutal. Or they can end up doing absolutely nothing for a relatively high price.
"hell yeah"
My thoughts exactly when I hear the best commantary duo on a match!
5:31 Its nice to see even pro's make the noob mistake of unseiging all their tanks like that.
Great match! Thanks for bringing it
These guys are so insanely good, mechanically of course but also mentally. I would've FF'd as soon as I saw the Barracks in my main lol
best casters for a great match , i do enjoy very much.
He’s getting savaged! 😂 such a dope game.
Man looked like a higher gamespeed they were going at it so hard!
Lol the mad man I can't believe he got the marauder in the medievac and escaped
Insane. That start had him so far behind in units lost. What an absolute boss stats is. Unbelievable.
TY plays Starcraft as if he plays Chess.
Damn, that was so painful to watch for Stats. However, he still played really well, considering how much the cheese at the start hurt him. The only real counterplay I could think of is to get more vision with observers to spot the drops or some cannons to slow them down. Maybe just getting like a 11 DT hit squad to insta snipe CCs and blink away would have helped to even things up a bit since TY’s army is split up so much. (Even then his dark shrine kept getting sniped)
Nice video, nice editing ! gj
TY takes care of his bois. No man left behind.
8:40 nope, one man left behind :D
The look on Stats face when he realized what was happening... damn.
there was no reaction on his face, when he found the barracks with his stalkers… what you talking about?
2:55 the balls on that move... :O
8:40 he missed that one, though
There's just something about blitzkrieg bio that is artful to watch
TY is the champion in the terran
They call me Numbers! Lol
More disruptors than a Romulan Warbird
stats still put up a good fight all things considering. but gg ty
Stats got dominated
@@PrettyTonyi but still won alot of engagements which kept him alive
@@Jay-vp5tn 4-0 worse beating than parting season 1
@@Jay-vp5tn a clic deathball protoss + no self damage for disruptors... Not hard to win engagements...
TY is the coolest ever Idgaf
huh, i like the little screen showing other stuff at the same time
it's so sad that Stats went down 4-0
The amount of TvTs I won on this map with proxy marauders in the main was absolutely disgusting
If Stats hadn't managed to land his Disruptor shots like 95% of the time this would've been a 6 minute game, tops. The only reason he hung on this long is he just made god-tier shot after shot with those. And you know the whole time TY was just sitting there thinking "omg I can't believe he did it AGAIN!" Stats was probably thinking the same with those non-stop main drops though.
TY had some good splits later on in the game but he did lose a LOT of bio to those disruptors early. On top of that he got a big chunk of his bio wiped by the archon flank too.
Disruptors weren't even out at 6 minutes... 6 minutes was the banshee harass.
clear evidence of how terran is brain death race
Boxer once floated 6 rax into an enemy base...
they slugging it out just like fights between gatti vs ward.
Stats is the master of defense
It rly looks like stats is crying cause he knows he has lost
I miss Ever Dream. Such a gorgeous, massive map.
the casters are the best
That's not a fight, they vaged a full fledged war
This game was amazing
this is a very intense game
I always root for protoss but TY just outmaneuvered Stats every game that series. Stats was an absolute rock this game though - he took so much damage all game and still almost won.
T>P>HU>NE>UD>ORC>Z
Just getting savaged
So satisfactory
any other player wouldve insta-died to that early game
Wow, phenomenal game!
Anyone else on a binge? XD
Those two are the best thing about SC2 casting. IDK if I could watch pro SC2 without "Numbers" and Tasteless.
Florencio posesed him
this was a great game
Amazing game . Love it
Fantastic game
What a awesome game
Thanks to the super battery patch, or Stats would have already been dead if in GSL S1.
lutou bem, mas demorou pra reconhecer a derrota
What a game!
TY made Terran look imbalance. The multi prong attack is unbelievable! Amazing game!
Why are disrupters faster than stunned marines and marauders I don’t get it
the micro on TY was insane
Awesome game
OP terran.
Gooood Game
love it :)
Great game
I wanna know the apms in this game. The announcers couldnt even keep up!
the only thing between TY and another GSL trophy is his weird inability to build workers sometimes
Weird. I always see TY overbuilding workers.
@@WuYixiang exactly
RIP SC2
Protoss is too imb now
Couldn't have happened to a more deserving race.
I really think the load speed into medivac should be nerfed. Something like 2 units at one or something. It's not punishing enough when you screw up the drop, you just fly away instantly with the boost. Seems like a bad design to me, especialy when there is an hour distance between main and 3rd, but you can fly between them like in 1 sec...
Why not build cannons in the main to pick off drop ships? Stats had the minerals.. 🤔
They would not do anything cannons take too long to kill a medivac and die very fast to the dropped bio. The only counter as far as i can tell is to keep a large number of stalkers in the main and have very fast reactions to snipe the medivacs. Only terrans are allowed to easily counter other terrans drops by putting a few turrets up. Zerg and Protos dont really have a real counter other than to scout the drop in the first place.
feedback and storm would of been better
There are so many entry point, its not possible to stop drop harass with cannons only unless you have cannons in every corner. Its better to just have some shield batteries around and warp in units to defend. Not to mention in late game with upgrades and big drops, cannon dps fall off really quickly, Terran can just drop units on the cannons and still destroy everything.
@@skychaos87 u rite, u rite
TY had a bad micro and Stats a poor macro
HELL YA
TY so strong! (Why no ghosts)
Incredible skill.
Is it just me or is watching a pro game without damaged heath bars actually painful and a lot less enjoyable.
this doesn't work on ladder but GSL )))
Ladder > GSL. Confirmed. :)
TY is literally mechanically twice as good as Stats, and on top of that he threw everything Terran had in the book - and somehow Stats still manages To stay in the game after losing SO MUCH. Balance this game already, fucking ActiBlizzard.
are you. kidding me? stats used every possible trick from the protoss and cant even beat a group of marine and. maurauder, without ghost. Balance the game already
@@nguyentuan1990 Incorrect
Como esq alguien juega con protos y pierde siempre me lo he preguntado.
I'm no experienced player, but this is cheesy right? 😂
I love watching this game .. Play it ?? Naaaah fuck that (only single player though)
Stim and win
people keep complain terran op, see how terran player come up with all these strategy and micro, whereas the other race just come up with a death ball army and A move to win
God I hate disruptors lmao
I don't think there's any unit in the game that requires so much micro from the enemy to react, requires so little micro from the user to control, and deals so much damage if it isn't reacted to properly.
Maybe at this level it doesn't matter as much balance-wise but they just feel so badly designed to play against.
“Little micro from the user”…huh? I mean, I don’t like them as a unit either, but it’s aesthetic thing.
gg
Marine marauder mine. Three units all game tearing apart expensive high tier army. Seems balanced
medivac and vikings
But requires a lot of skill to utilise them efficiently.
He didn't tear the high tier army apart, he lost almost every fight against the high tier army. However he outmanovered the high tier army and instead attacked the bases.
Before that he used tanks and vikings the hinder the protoss expanding towards him.
That's because with stim and medivacs bio units scale well into mid or even late game. Even zerglings with adrenaline also scale well in late game. Protoss gateway units are truly tier 1 units that basically loses much value after 10-15mins mark. If opponent does not have specific counter or splash, Terran bio with upgrades are as good as tier 3 units. Disruptors is a counter, but in this case Terran countered its counter by abusing protoss units' slow moving speed to avoid direct engagement thus won the game. This has been an old strat since wings of liberty by doing multi prong drop harass and attack against slow protoss units. Which is why blizzard came up with recall, mothership cores, pylon overcharge and shield batteries to help protoss with its lousy defense.
Terran mech and pretty much all T3 combos get absolutely raped by just about any Protoss composition ya dumbie. Also, if you think MMM vs archon, chargelot, and disruptor is easy then try it yourself ya whiny puss.