Why do people carry this gun? Taurus Judge performance.
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The Taurus Judge Public Defender is one of those handguns I've never fully understood the perceived utility of. The Taurus Judge is a .410 shotgun first, and a .45 LC pistol second. How does the Judge perform with various .410 shotgun loads? We find out!
#taurus #judge #revolver
the longer barrel might be a better option. and i usually shoot slugs and long colt through mine, but i agree with Tim on this pistol. great video . 😎
The Pachmayer grip makes this gun feel 100% better. I shoot Hornaday 225gr LeverEvolution 45 Colt and it has always functioned and had decent groups at 10yds or less. I like it because it's light and handy.
That grip works wonders. Makes shooting mine a thousand times better.
If you are running 45LC, a revolver dedicated to that cartridge would be much more accurate.
@@chris.3711 It is the grip Taraus should ship on this gun. That short one is worthless.
@@Kyle-sr6jm True, but this is light and cheap.
@@Kyle-sr6jm Dedicated .45LC revolvers tend to be MUCH more expensive. Also most of those are single-action revolvers. So that's not a viable alternative to the Taurus Judge.
I have one of these.. I like to shoot the Hornady critical defense rounds. The rounds that’s are specifically designed for pistols tend to run just fine. I’ve had issues with birdshot and the primers falling out binding up the the cylinder.. self defense maybe. But it’s a handful compared to even a single stack 9. I definitely agree with the novelty gun aspect
I fully agree that .410 bird shot may not be the most lethal choice for self defense. That being said, self defense doesnt mean kill your attacker. It means defend, to create a means of escape, to stop the current situation. Id be willing to bet that nobody would take a load or 2 in the face and not be phased. under pressure, spray and pray.
Ah, a humanitarian! See and they say gun owners want to kill people its not true
Never, ever say that in front of a prosecutor or judge. If you say that you used a lethal weapon in a situation wherein you didn't feel you actually needed lethal force...you're going to prison for a long time.
@Charles Eye I agree with you, however I think you miss understood me. Im most def not saying to use a lethal weapon in a non life threatening event. Im saying you dont need to turn your attacker into pink mist to become safe and escape the attack. Hope that clears it up.
If somewants to kill you you dont give them a second chance
I can even finish this video. Why would anyone use the Judge without using ACTUAL defensive shotshells designed for the judge rifled barrel? You're ragging out on it about "spread" meanwhile GunSam did a test months ago and got a 5 inch spread at 25 yards! All buckshot hit in small area with individual wound paths per 1 trigger pull. You're either intentionally making the gun look bad by running shotshells that are known to jam and underperform or you're just uninformed. If you're taking about energy levels, there are several 45 colts near the 500lbs of force level out of a 2.5 inch barrel that run reliability. The gun will shoot hundreds of different combinations of very different loads, might as well do research and run KNOWN reliable loads that perform before making a video. I understand the merit of 9mm etc and I have dozens of them, but the judge is simply underrated because of uninformed videos like this, limited ammo choice or not. This video is essentially like running 9mm CCI rounds for defense and calling the 9mm "bad."
The problem is there are so many different loads that reviewers aren't willing to research the best ones, so you end up with videos like this.
Well said. The Judge and Governor are both fantastic for their intended purpose - and reliable.
Gun only works at 25 yards? Cringe
@@manilikefirearms7499 Average self-defense encounter is under 7, but they use actual data so there's that. I think over 3x the average is pretty safe.
@@manilikefirearms7499far enough so that it can’t be taken away from you ! It does the job ad long as you know how to handle a weapon. Maybe you want a 338 Lapua w scope ?
You should have tried the critical defense 410 ammo made for the judge.
jam issue did not finish one box. One, two shots then froze cylinder. Might be high pressure deform shell. Need rubber mallet next range day.
Win PDX1 had about a 10” spread @21 ft with 4 disc impacts from a range rental Judge. Home defense? Sure thing. I wouldn’t wear it out the door though. Also, per the FBI’s report related to .40S&W, I’m more interested in wound channels than foot pounds of energy.
Those rounds are about max what the gun can handle in my opinion. What I carry in mine (first 2 rounds) then some 250 grain .45 last 3 rounds. Never had an issue it with in 5 years. Got the Poly one as well.
I like the Remington Defender three hardened copper disks and shot behind it. Lotta hurt for one trigger pull- ya got five
@@chrisbrowning977 those are good too. I prefer not to have the extra shot behind it. I use my extra of those as a camping round now.
I own one and I’ve been happy with it ever since. Just one or many tools I’ve acquired
i remember that Winchester pdx1 load that had like 3 disks in in and some buck shot and they claimed it to be the best self-defense load you could get.
I bought some for my governor when they came out. I still have a couple boxes lying around. I think I also have a couple boxes that include 45LC and 410 shells in the same box
3 disks and BIRD shot.
The birdshot makes it look impressive on paper.
Just bought a 12ga load that has a slug with 3 00 buck shot in it
I have the public defender and I really like to load it with the PDX1 rounds. I think they are the best general purpose self-defense rounds someone can use in such firearms.
As a judge owner, the cylinder lockup is a you problem. I almost exclusively fire 410 (slugs, 00 buck, and bird) and I've never had an issue.
I just recently bought that same revolver but in black. Why did I get it? Well it was in my long bucket list. It did interest me as it shoots shotgun shells and 45 LC. 410 and 45 LC was very hard to find during the ammo shortage. I have been buying some 410 and 45 LC even if I didn't have a Judge lol. It's light and Taurus revolvers have been growing on me. Wish I bought it a year ago for mid $300's as I purchased at $459 at my LGS. Haven't shot it yet but will do very soon. Hopefully no issues and I won't need a rubber mallet!
Remember .45 Colt is also used in some Winchester 92s and some modern production Henry rifles/Uberti clones. And a lot of Colt SAAs and clones use .45 colt. Definitely not only for the judge. I definitely recommend handloading if you want to shoot much .45 colt, and if you want to shoot black powder or +P(Do NOT shoot +P in a normal judge, and if you shoot black powder be ready to do some cleaning) it's pretty much required to handload.
I “HAD” a judge years ago, had being the operative word. The whole point of a gun is to hit something at a distance. The Judge is highly lacking in this area of performance. Second as a carry pistol it wasn’t much smaller or lighter than a 44mag Ruger Super RedHawk with a 7 1/2” barrel. The main difference between these two is the Ruger can drop a dear at 100 yards compared to the Judge 3 yards.
I do want to point out that the Ruger Super RedHawk with a 7 1/2 inch barrel is entirely impractical Carry Pistol and yet somehow people find a way to justify calling the Judge a Carry Pistol 🤷🏻♂️
Ive had a S&W Governor for 8 years. Its actually really fun gun, and the federal 000 buck handgun ammo is my go-to defensive load.
Only issues ive had in terms of reliability were with short brass 410 birdshot. It doesnt like to eject those.
Everything else runs great. Ive even managed to get lucky and hit a couple skeet in flight with it.
While looking up the history of the LeMat revolver, a dual caliber firearm, I was reminded of Taurus' "The Judge". I knew of only one person that carried this particular handgun for personal protection: he was actually a real Judge and showed me his gun in his office/chambers.
The LeMat is an awesome gun man!!
Judge: “I declare the defendant… *guilty.”*
* pulls out Taurus Judge *
* MISSES *
I had a steel framed Judge with a 7 inch barrel. It was my favorite revolver. I prefer autoloaders for home defense regardless of caliber.
I love my judge. Works well for me as a truck gun or backup to my pistol
I remember buying into the hype when these hit the market. I decided to go the S&W Governor route because it had 6 rounds instead of 5 and the ability to chamber 45 ACP using moon clips. It had a nice trigger; especially when cocked in single action. But with its tiny barrel you have a snub nose that is huge. I ended up selling it because it was just a range toy and never became a serious consideration for EDC.
LOL because it has never been an EDC gun. You chose a gun based on being able to shoot 45 ACP when every other ACP gun shoots better with less bulk and weight? That's on you, guy. Don't blame the gun because you didn't buy the right one for your application
Only judge I’ve ever seen in person was carried by a guy who ended up having a felony warrant, and was already a felon. The judge is the quintessential “don’t know anything about guns but I’m buying one” gun
I get similar results with my Bond Arms derringer. I have a 3.5" barrel for .410/.45LC...I only could find 3" 000 shells, so there's only 1/2" of usable barrel length (yeah, 2.5" shells and/or longer barrel may help). I fired the first 2 rounds at 10 ft and got surprisingly good results...then everything else was barely hitting the outboard edges of the silhouette. Moved the target to about 3-4 ft away and results were still crap, no center of mass hits. And please don't say "it's a get off me/touching distance gun"...why bother with something that only holds 2 rounds, can't be used past a few feet, and isn't significantly smaller than the current crop of micro-9mm pistols. It's a novelty gun, like the Judge...but at least I can change calibers and barrel lengths easily. That's about the only thing it has going for it. As always, good review and let the data do the talking.
You shouldn’t see any better performance out of the shorter shells, since it’s not going to be constricted in the bore yet. In other words, that extra length in the cylinder (when using a shorter shell) isn’t helpful.
in 1846 it was a GREAT option for your wife.
@@jackjohnson291 No cylinder...I was referring to the Bond.
@@undercoverhustler37 😆Yep!
I have a Judge. Only bought it for moles. Has worked both times I’ve used it so far. Does not upset, or surprise, me with your video.
I have one of the bigger guns with steel frame and I can say its surprisingly accurate in .45colt. These should be marketed as a .45colt revolver for self defense use, that can also use .410 in a pinch for niche utility applications, instead of the other way around. Would also like to see a gun in .45colt ONLY with shorter cylinder.
That would be the 455 tracker
You should check out Hi aliyah maximum expansion in 45Lc. They are made for these guns. There are a few UA-cam videos on it. Very impressive rounds.
@@anthonyaubuchon765 and also very finicky not to mention that cant be loaded to +p speeds because the judge/governer arent rater for 45 colt +p
I really got into the Judge pistols , bought three of them . The lightweight 4 inch barrel has some kick it . I first shot the three buckshot rounds which had a triangle pattern . The 4 shot loads were better hitting like this
.... across the chest area isn't bad . I like the Public Defender Judge the best . I think the S&W one would be good with that extra round . I never bought one due to the price .
I absolutely love my raging judge magnum. I only shoot 454 and 3inch 410 but still it's been an amazing revolver
Lehigh Defense Maximum Expansion round has turned this into a very good self defense gun
Boom. I'm glad someone made the Judge do something that any 45 Colt can't do better.
@@olysean92 Professor. You can't shoot 220 grain loads in " any" Colt 45
My cousin had a polymer frame Taurus in .357 Mag about 12 years ago. Cheap gun, I think he paid about $350 for it. The polymer frame started to come apart after he shot it roughly 100 times. I told him to get rid of it and he did. That's my one and ONLY experience with a Taurus polymer frame! That one experience swayed me away from Taurus for good.
Thanks for sharing this, Tim. My cousin bought one of these years back. We loaded it with the buck, bird and 45 colt. Also some disc/buck loads that in theory were pretty cool. From 15 yards away, shooting at a "door-sized" piece of drywall, the only shot I was able to hit the door with was the 45 colt. And it was about 4ft off from where I was trying to hit. Took my edc out and reassured myself it wasn't me. I'm not an exceptional shot. That gun is not serious for protecting your life. I would recommend everything else.
Thanks, I think they are fine for snakes, range but basically a safe queen, especially the raging judge magnum with the long barrel looks loony tunes😂
You bought a gun intended for a specific application and got upset that it didn't do something totally different? LOL it patterns just great on that snake coiled up hissing at your livestock 10-15 ft away
@@evocati6523 Maybe you should read posts twice before commenting lol. I didn't buy it nor did I expect it to do something it wasn't built for. Simply sharing my experience. I sell guns for a living so I'm familiar with capabilities. From my experience, I'd rather have 22 birdshot for snakes especially nowadays when 410 is over a dollar a shell.
I highly recommend the Judge to anyone with failing vision. Until I had my cataract surgery the Judge kept me safe with the.410; now the .45 long Colt and my new eyes are getting along just fine! By the way I’m 75 with years in law enforcement. The polymer frame and one inch barrel were your first two mistakes. The 3” steel Judge is a totally different weapon, I’ve never had a problem one.
I recently bought the all steel 3" version and it seems to be a solid gun and so far I've had no issues at all. This video has me questioning my purchase a little, but the polymer version he is using is not the same gun as the all steel.
Older people love this gun for whatever reason, it must be because they buy into the marketing hype of a "shotgun round in a handgun" but don't know how to use the internet to actually do some research on how gimmicky it is. They think it's like having a 12 gauge in a revolver - that's not how physics works. My 90 year old uncle carries one of these. Absolute kudos to him for carrying a gun in the first place, he is already well ahead of 99% of people out there... but I just wish it was a better gun.
Maybe you should ask him why he carries it rather than make baseless assumptions......you might learn something
@@mcameron6031 he carries it for self defense, same reason I carry a gun... he chose that thinking the 410 coming out of that snub-nose barrel will have the same devastating effect as a full size shotgun, and that he won't have to be as precise with his aim. I'm not sure what I can "learn" from that, other than what I already know... that being, he doesn't really understand what makes a good, effective sidearm choice.
@@BertieW0osteryou can learn a hell of a lot from a 90 year old.
Mine runs great. Federal .410 handgun puts all 4 pellets of 000 Buck the size of my fist at 7 yards all day. I love it
The first vid i saw of the Judge was it being marketed for automotive defense against carjackings, and that was it. All shots were fired from the driver's seat and all the targets were right up against the passenger door.
I have kinda always wished Taurus would make a 45 colt version of the judge with a shorter cylinder, though I think taurus did make a 45 colt snubby years ago
They used to make a.45 Colt on their Tracker frame same as the Judge, the Judge sold 10x as many per unit so they dropped it. Used to have one, it was accurate, shot tighter groups at range over the Judge, but both guns were employed in similar distances overall for myself and others and it was in turn sold for the latter.
They used to have the model 450 which was a 5 shot 45 Colt.
my revolver failure...a spurless Taurus 605 with Cor-Bon 125gr 357 magnum; 3rd shot...the primer pushed out & almost cold welded itself to the breech face; took it back to where I bought it & they beat the cylinder open; sold the gun shortly afterward to a coworker...he traded it on a Ruger SP101; he stated the timing was a bit off and got some spit back with magnum rounds; offered him a partial refund to cover part of the $$$ put towards his Ruger...it was refused but our 'gun life' relationship fell off (avoided me at the range outside of work...oh well); the year was 2001...
onto the Judge concept...fully steel variants make more sense as added mass & weight might mitigate the possibility of primer pull
This pistol is meant to be used within a specific range. Typically thats from within about 30 feet to putting it right up against their belly. We’re not looking to snipe somebody from across the grocery store here. If you want to have some actual statistics then according to the FBI 7 yards the average distance of lethal confrontations across decades of study.
Obviously it’s for when me and the boys need to take down a shield while the thermal drill is going.
What I remember them saying it was for up close like from inside a car because the rifling causes the pellets to rapidly spread
I've had an Ultra Light Judge DAO with color case hardened trigger and bobbed hammer. It has a rail attached with a Crimson Trace pistol light attached. The only ammo used is 4 pellet Federal 000. It has about an 8 inch spread the length of my hallway. It is super fun to shoot but kicks like a mule with it being so light. But my wife can shoot it. It works in my situation. Out in the country with no neighbors. Of course if more is needed, an AR and a 500 20 gage is grabbed instead. I don't use a screwdriver to hammer nails (mostly lol). Right tool for the job. It's not my primary, just another tool in the toolbox. Use what you want but train on whatever you choose.
You literally got the cheapest model. Get the upgraded versions and try again. Also the slug rounds on this is awesome
I own a judge I don't carry it for a defense gun.. but is a fun gun to shoot.. because of its versatility.. as I get older I come to realize that not every gun has to be a defense gun... but most of my guns are just fun to shoot...
Okay buddy.
If it's not tacti-cool then it's useless.
@@susanissajoke Lol..tacti-cool...I like that...
@@dmmjq2 I actually got that phrase from Hickok45, when he was making the same joke in a video
A friend bought one of these after I talked him into getting a revolver.. he quickly turned it in in favor of a gp100. He only has glocks for handguns now. I keep my collection slim by choice these days but always have at least one revolver, and of course it's the judge! JK.. It's a S&W 60-15, I Love the 38/357 combo and I can still get little shotshells if I want em.
The Taurus is fantastic. We had a blast (no pun) with one back when they were first released.
Great range gun for snakes and pretty damn good at self defense I’m sure. 45 LC is a fun old cartridge and 410 will mess someone’s day up if they get smacked by it.
Haven’t tried the SW yet.
Btw we used handload 410 with rock salt, metal shavings and tiny nails sealed with crayola wax. Worked great.
I bought the crayons just for that purpose.
@Fou
It’s safe and it’s an old practice when making varmint loads. Basic wax usually but Crayons work just as well. Bought the 72 count from 1980’s with the built in sharpener. I use only the best crayons ;)
Any idiot who says revolvers don't malfunction has never had a bullet jump crimp, as I've had with my S&W 329 PD with Winchester White Box (anemic) .44 mag factory loads. Took a screwdriver to get it working again.
Edit-I have a BFR .45/.410 with a 6" barrel and its buckshot patterns are BARELY passable. I killed a grey fox at 10 yards and had to shoot it twice.
Sounds like crap ammo
I wonder if the clearance issues are specific to the polymer judge. My metal frame one has never had a problem rotating the cylinder with different loads.
I know it's a stupid gun but it's pretty fun to run random stuff through into soda cans in the woods.
I have had the same jamming issues with mine
You can tell what Tim thinks of it as he just lays it in the water 😂
Unfair to use the Taurus Judge as your example to disprove the “revolvers never fail”. It has always been a dumpster fire and it’s bad even by Taurus standards. Revolvers have to be kept clean to be reliable, but given remotely reasonable care the good revolvers are extremely reliable. I own several revolvers that I have had since the 1980’s and they have never failed a single time. S&W and Ruger.
So are you saying "Revolvers never fail" ?
@@stefanmolnapor910 of course not. Using the Taurus judge to disprove the idea that revolvers are reliable is no different than using first generation Sig P365 pistols to disprove the reliability of autoloaders. There are really good and really bad examples of each type of firearm. I can say without hesitation that none of my revolvers have ever failed, with the exception of my old Model 10 competition revolver which simply wore out. I bought it used and fired around 300k rounds without issue til it started having issues due to wear. I also have autoloaders that have never failed me. But I have seen some low quality examples of each type that fail regularly.
I bought my public defender Exclusively for Lehigh defenses maximum expansion. Give that particular round a looksee and then consider the weapon
Just this last week a guy (young but not a gun guy) came into my shop to look at this exact gun. Apparently one of his buddies said it was the best gun possible for self defense. Usually at this point I just nod and smile, since no one is gonna take my word over bubba back home’s word but he asked if I agreed. “Honestly, man I don’t.” He asked which gun I would recommend and I just waved at the entire counter and said, literally pick one.
The deal breaker is that the Taurus Judge is not designed to take 45acp. The S&W Governor is designed to withstand higher pressures and to take 45acp with moonclips. The Governor is more expensive, but is significantly more versatile.
They tried to bring out a big brother in 28 Gauge but it didn't get off the ground.i think that a 20 Gauge one would be interesting and that's just the size and the recoil!
It was pretty obvious you had your opinion before you started. I have the judge with the 3" barrel in stainless steel. I haven't tried the ammo you had the most issues with, but have shot a lot of different ammo with no problems. As far as the shot shell goes, I was kinda surprised you was making an issue with the spread. As a gun guy I would think you know any time you shoot shot through a rifled barrel, it will have more spread than a smooth bore barrel. That being said, I use this as my truck gun. I drive a truck over the road. It stays in my sleeper and have the cylinder set so my first two rounds are 410 number 6 shot. If I'm woken up in the middle of the night with someone coming in my truck. As they come across the seat, I'm not going to be my best shot, and the last thing I want to do is miss and send a stray round through my windshield and take a chance of killing a driver parked across from me. Knowing how much the shot shell will spread, what doesn't hit him won't go much past my windshield. I mean, we are definitely within that 3' range or less. The next 3 rounds are 45 LC. Hialeah maximum expansion. For anybody that owns one of these or the Jury, I strongly suggest checking out those rounds. They are specifically made for these revolvers and are very impressive rounds.
I have noticed a bit of bias in several videos.
I wish Taurus offered the opportunity to buy them as an NFA item with a smoothbore barrel. If it was smoothbore it would be awesome. The barrel rifling just fucks up the accuracy totally.
I have never had a problem with any of my judges and I have 10 of them its a great gun and I carry it everyday
almost bought one thanks for changing my mind and saving my life.
I think keeping a 22mag revolver with snake shot is probably a much better option if snakes are your concern.
I know I'm going to get some hate for this, I like revolvers for the collection aspect. I would never use a revolver for self defense/home defense in 2023 when the bad guy is more than likely going to have at least 15 rounds.
When I shot 357 out of my Ruger lcp I'm pretty sure I felt your pain lol that hurt so bad to shoot I had to switch hands through 6 rounds. 38 special felt like 9mm though.
.19cal BBB is not a buck shot size. It's in the larger US bird shot size between 18cal BB, and .20cal F shot community used for duck hunting.
The first pistol I bought when I turned 21 was a Taurus model 66 .357 magnum. It would not accept aluminum cased .357/.38 the rims were too fat to allow it to rotate the cylinder. Crazy accurate gun though with a 6" barrel.
I won mine it’s really fun, mine doesn’t do the longer 410s ( only test 1 then load 2 etc for fit )
I almost commented "Paul Harrell already did this" but that's like saying "Simpsons did it" lol.
Great vid.
The judge was supposed to be like a trail gun for snakes or something (close up ) not at ranges. That way you have a little more versatility on the trail if you want to pop a grouse or stop a couger. And gives you more versatile ammo options, its definitely not to designed to be a long range self defense gun, its a woods or very close range gun.
It's definitely a bit of a gimmick, but a cool gun nonetheless and more versatile then hundreds of other options.
This makes me wonder if you made a full brass .410 shell from primer pocket to hull if it would solve the sticking problem,but not sure that’s possible or a thing.basically I’m thinking something that looks like a Nagant revolver round.
You live in a duplex or apartment and dont want to shoot through a wall and hit your neighbors.
You have bad shoulders and cant handle a shotgun.
You have trouble racking a pistol back.
You like the gun.
It will work if you point it in the general direction a bad guy.
To claim it’s not a self defense weapon is stupid. Are there better options,maybe, but it still spits lead. You want to be at the end of that barrel when it goes off? No? I didn’t think so.
I know some people from “the club of no return” that carry large caliber handguns
19:10 that slug looks brutal!!!
"Why do people carry this gun?" Because they can. Because free country. Don't like it? Don't carry it. It's that simple.
I’ve always wanted one. Taurus could’ve easily named it Blackbeard or some other pirate/blunderbuss themed name.
Great video, and an "on-the-nose" opinion of this gun. I received one of these as part of my dad's collection when he passed (Public Defender, standard frame). My dad had bought this gun because he lived in rattlesnake country, and it was very effective at dealing with them. This is an interesting weapon, but not one I would have purchased myself, the snakes where I live are few, and not poisonous, so no reason to kill them. With the stock grips and my large hands, this thing hurts to shoot, no matter the round; this is solved by larger aftermarket grips at the sacrifice of concealability, not a big deal for me. Given that I have other, better options for self defense, this gun sits in my safe, and is taken out from time to time when I go out plinking. The best reason I have for owning this gun is that it makes me think of my dad.
I’ve owned my Judge for a few years and have never trusted it. I tried to use it to hit a grouse that was about 10’ from me and the bird shot .410 never even touched it. It’s better with Cowboy load .45LC, but it’s still not great. I’ve tried to sell it but nobody wants it for more than $250. I do not recommend.
I know have the Judge my dad bought some time ago it has a 4 or 5 inch barrel. His is a Taurus.
Someone at the gun store was so set on one of these as his first and only gun. I was thinking to myself have fun at the range with that one.
I believe this is the only gun Brazil has better than the US version. Simply due to the fact that the brazilian Judge is smoothbore and that makes the spread A LOT better.
Got it for 53% off on 2021 black friday here, it has been my bedside gun ever since.
I love my public defender got it soon as it came out... never had a single malfunction... I normally shoot 00 buck or 000 buck... occasionally shoot critical defense or Winchester pdx1...all the 410 I shoot hurt...so I prefer to shoot long colt... but I absolutely would choose any reliable semi-automatic pistol over a revolver any day... but if that's all i have...it's better than a pointy stick...
I had one of these found the federal 410 handgun did the best in mine it was a 3" barrel version, I no longer own the gun carry a 10mm nowadays the range just isn't there for the judge and honestly the 9mm in the real world testing I've done :not jell: test it didn't even come close to 40cal
Wow, didn’t realize .410 slugs were so light. 1/4 ounce isn’t much of a slug. I’d go with .45 Colt. Never have understood The Judge for any use except pests.
Most people I know that carry these pack them during bow season so they can shoot grouse/snakes. These have way more uses other than Home defense, try hitting and thinking about other uses for these types of guns other than Home Defense.
Never had a problem with mine but I've seen others bind up with certain ammo choices. They're adequate for a lot of tasks but not really great at any. They're fun range toys that can be useful in a pinch.
I think the Judge would be great for popping balloons😂
I think its the price that makes people defend it out of reflex, its the middle of road price wise and the only things cheaper are .22 revolvers or a few taurus .38 revolvers, new revolvers in .357 and bigger cost around 700 or higher so get a taurus and defend it
At across the room range buckshot can be extremely effective but one factor to consider... Have you tried to find a 45LC double action at reasonable prices lately?
As to your comparing to the 9mm my guess that very few people are trying to decide between a wonder nine and a big bore revolver.
Sir. This is a 410 revolver.
@@susanissajoke Which also fires 45 Colt just fine. All other 45 Colt options are quite a bit more expensive and hard to find.
@@mkshffr4936 I know l. I was more making a joke where it seems like everyone just ignores the fact it shoots 45
@@susanissajoke Gotcha. I look at them as an ugly 45 that can shoot better snake loads. 😊
One of the worst people I ever worked with behind the gun counter claimed he carried one of these, And then one day he called over the phone to quit I couldn't be happier about it,Enough said.
The main thing is that this and similar platforms are basically popular because people think about the power of a 12ga but they are getting much less. The gun is huge for such a short barrel and barrel is where power is developed. Is it maybe a decent nightstand gun? Maybe. I think its more of a toy than anything in this configuration. Some of the other variants are pretty cool though.
I have carried the Public Defender for years. I have put over 1000 rounds through it, usually no more than 50 rounds .45 & 15 rounds of .410 PDX at one session. I love the way this gun feels in my hand. I HAVE NEVER, NEVER, EVER, EVER had Any of the problems you are having. EVER!! I don't know why you are having any problem. I have never had the cylinder stick, ever. I never had a jam.
🤥 suuure
@@susanissajoke You are just clueless
@@thomascenate7920 yeah okay bud
If you wanna give your assailant a warning shot,this would be the ideal firearm
11:10 that's because KE means nothing. Recoil and collisions are all the realm of momentum. A 272gr column of buckshot going 770 fps may have comparable energy to a 124gr bullet going 1100 fps, but it has the momentum of that bullet going over 1500 fps - hence the much more intense recoil.
A gun that doesn't do anything well except MAYBE pest control... yet I've never had trouble with my .357 snakeshot. And it was the only thing I could find during some ammo shortages!
You could also shoot 454 Casull in the Judge
Prime candidate for 'The Gauntlet'.
I've always wanted a judge just to have and use as a range toy. I'd never carry that for edc and only carry for snakes while hunting
Would the result fair better if the revolver have a standard full barrel length like 6' or 7½'?
I'm not really a fan of stubby barrel gun. The same reason why I fell in love with the M14 and L1A1 SLR.
"guys the thermal drill go get it"
I look at the Taurus Judge like I look at a 40$ katana you buy at the mall. It looks cool to those who don't know much about the field but is at best a high priced show piece and a mediocre range toy. But if you are one of the people who bought one and enjoy owning it and shooting it more power to you at the end of the day it is still a gun and fulfills a purpose if if there are better options for doing so.
i got the same one but i got a full grip installed and shot hornady critical defense round and carry it for bears and with practice can be very effective i also carry during snake season. i like it and carry it over most. not A good conceal carry
Those are perfect guns for the battlefield today as FPV drone protection. Birdshot in it for as many pellets as possible. Birdshot pellets will destroy the propellers on an FPV drone and knock it out of the sky.
Because a 410 round to the face at close range is dealing some serious business
I’ve always wondered about the 45’s in the Judge. To be able to shoot 410’s your going to have a long bullet jump for the 45’s to get to the lands of the barrel. Tell me if I’m wrong but it seems the accuracy would leave a lot to desire.
I debated getting one for a couple years. Always thought it was a joke. But, I went and bought one. Actually it is a fun range toy. It'll never be my carry gun. But, it can be a good get off me gun. I like it more now that I have moon clips for 45acp ammo. It shoots them great with no problem. I like it, it's a keeper.👍
Only thing about the moon clips. It would be faster to load a 1911 magazine.
I have shot several varieties of ammo extensively in this pistol. When you use proper quality ammo you do not have those problems.
I’ve never had a problems with cylinder seizing. I am not familiar with your shells but they appear to be 3”. You cannot 3” shells in a judge. Gun is a great gun and fun to shoot. My dispersion on my shells never is that bad. My guess result of wrong shells
When i think of these types of pistols, i think of point blank defense. Such as car jacking, or snakes.
Watch MAC throw shade for 20 minutes? Yes please.