Turcksmachine and the factories to produce it, and the landfills to hold the containers, and the extra diesel burned during regen, and more diesel fill-ups because of low MPG, and the increased engine wear resulting in shorter vehicle lifespans resulting in more factories needed to build more parts and vehicles. Absolutely a great idea! :-(
Besides I really don't understand why people have a problem with this system. It's simply a fluid that lowers your toxic emissions into enviroment , isn't that a good thing ?
I have an '03 F350 & never even heard of DEF until this video. Did some online reading as I was curious & just want to pass on a thanks for educating me about this. Great video!
I literally just did this last week. Got Diesel the day before but he DEF pumps were occupied. The next day after work I stop and gas station on the way home. Since I wasn't getting Diesel and only putting DEF in I left my truck running. While I was putting my credit in I was also on the phone with BASS PRO where they lied to me about work they did on my boat. I was upset and distracted. Ended up putting two and half gallons of DEF into running truck before I realized what I was doing. Shortly later it errored out with "water in fuel". Had truck towed to Chevy dealership. (only 4500 miles on it) I about crapped my pants when quote came back at $16,000. That does not include engine. $5500 parts and 64 hours labor. Here is where my luck turned. Turns out I wasn't cheap when I bought my Comprehensive Policy and ended up being covered by my policy.
Let's see,..the fuel cap is green...the DEF cap is blue...the green cap is 2x the size of the blue one...and the openings are different sizes...I suppose if you;re blind and terminally stupid you could confuse the two. In that case, I don't think putting the DEF on the opposite side of the truck would do anything at all. Maybe if the DEF cap was on Mars and you had to go to a completely different planet that might solve the confusion.
@@buckhorncortez I don't get it either. What really astounds me is we had some kids at work manage to fill the DEF tank with diesel. The three of them had to purchase a funnel to accomplish this and not one had the lightbulb in their head go off🤔
Or you can just pay attention on what you’re doing.....imagine that 🤪 The big green refill cap means fricken diesel fuel and the much smaller blue refill cap mean fricken DEF. Oh wait it gets better it even says it on the caps 😱
My wife accidentally put gasoline in my diesel. She drove it home and then realized it. I had it towed to the shop. They wanted $4000 to replace a whole bunch of crap and clean out the tank. I said I can’t afford it right now so I brought it home. I cleaned out the tank, put fresh diesel in it cleared the codes and I haven’t had a problem since that was two years ago
Haha. Just bought first diesel. When I get to a pump now I talk to myself as I read and triple check pump colors and labels to myself about what I am about to do, then look at my truck fuel caps and intentionally open the correct cap for what I am about to do, then pray to God about what I am about to do. 😂
Thanks for the straight-up what NOT TO DO vid. Didn’t even think about what would happen when I kick the key to on. Imagine that flatbed truck guy might do that just to make sure the steering wheel wasn’t locked during load/unload. Best to just disconnect the battery to make sure someone else doesn’t mess it up when you’re not looking!! Thanks again Wade!!
Ralf Risberg same here brother. Old skool six2 Detroit, and when i went to replace my daily gasser with a diesel pick-up, i knew i was buying a pre-01/01/2007 truck simply to avoid the whole DEF issue.
I never owned a diesel before fall of 2018 when I went looking for a diesel to pull a 10,000 + cargo (13,000 +/-) fifth wheel. I didn't want to struggle up hills so decided I definitely needed to go diesel. I researched and researched and talked to diesel owners and decided on a few things, I didn't want anything that took DEF, or anything that had a DPF or overly aggressive EGR, and noted 2006 was the cutoff. I also didn't want a 4x4 because it's rarely needed, added expense and costs MPG. One more consideration was I didn't want a truck that had been molested in anyway. I ended up finding a well maintained 2006 Duramax 6.6 (LBZ w/LLY tune) with some surface rust on the frame and needing some minor repairs and TLC. The truck has 125K on the clock and I'm putting some work into it but at 61 I'm hoping it will last me the rest of my life, I would rather put money into this older truck than buy anything 2007 or newer. The only other diesel I would have considered would have been a 7.3 Powerstroke but those are getting harder and harder to find as well.
"Just there for the free booze" ... best Wade quote of the century. Great information, so glad I have a '02 Cummins, except when we start talking VP44s.
Great video! BUT, too late for me, as a couple of weeks ago, I added a very small amount of DEF to my fuel tank on my 2018 F250 6.7TD. I made this lame-brain mistake at a fuel station that sells DEF at the pumps. Just not paying attention, I inserted the nozzle into my diesel fuel inlet-which I had just finished filling completely full. I had pumped in maybe a quart of DEF when I realized my mistake and immediately stopped (some of it had splashed out due to the tank being full). I then proceeded to fill my DEF tank. Not knowing how serious this could be, I started my truck and drove home-about 10 miles. By the time I arrived home, my “water in fuel” warning was on. I immediately drained the fuel/water separator under the truck-did that a couple of times. Then, I replaced the water separator filter, and the engine mounted filter (had those two items in my shop). For the next few days, I continued to drain fuel from underneath my truck, until I got down to about a 1/2 tank of fuel. Then, I refilled my truck. I’ve driven many miles in the past couple of weeks, without any issues. Truck starts fast, runs smooth, no further WIF alerts, nothing. So here is my concern-do I have a ticking timebomb that could go off at an point in time? Is there anything I should be doing at this point? My local Ford dealer’s service manager said they see several trucks every year that have this same thing happen, and his recommendation was to continue to drive it, but to know that trouble could still be in my future. One last thing, we use our truck to tow our fifth wheel, and we got several trips on the calendar for this spring, beginning in March. One is about 800 miles away, in April. So, what advice would you give me around “next steps”?? Also, what about the traveling with the fifth wheel? I just saw your UA-cam site and subscribed to it-hopefully I’ll still have this truck for a good long while-we love it! Thanks very much!
Just curious to know what your outcome was. Did u drain your fuel or just top it off? I've got a 2013 and I've got the same situation, very small amount of def added to fuel, drove it 10 miles now water in fuel lights are on. Ive got a quarter tank of fuel but hate to drop tank. If this worked for u, i may try what you did. Thanks in advance
A kid put gasoline put in my Duramax a couple years back at a local full-service station. Luckily for them, I shut it down the second my engine, "coughed", so there was no damage to the system. But it did cost the station $150.00 for towing, $580.00 to drain and clean the system, plus a new filter, another 36 gallons of fuel, and I talked the owner into two additional fill-ups for my inconvenience. The kid got fired for being an idiot. P.S. My Duramax was bought brand new in 2003, and has 93,000 miles on it. Living in N.Y., rust is a problem, so I had it painted, and restored, "body off" a couple of years back. Replaced some of the running gear, all of the lines, the exhaust, etc. I'm 68, so I plan on driving it into my grave!! None of that DEF crap for me.
LOL "full service." I remember the gas stations in Canada were all that way in the 70's and 80's. They must have thought people were too stupid to pump their own fuel. Ok some people are, but this is a simple enough task that anyone can make the mistake, and the full service station people are certainly not going to be less prone to these mistakes of habit, since they do this even more than anyone else.
Good comment but I would humbly recommend to reprocess your idea of driving your truck to the grave. My grandpa passed away back in 2019 and a hearse drove him to the grave. Seek out the face of Jesus Christ and you will find the Way, the Truth & the Life. He will take you to places further than your grave and beyond this life. Amen! I love you man!
I almost threw up when I dumped 3 gallons into my fuel tank two weeks ago. I had to start it for just about 5 seconds so I could put it in neutral and start it down hill to roll in front of my work shop. Well I dropped the full tank of fuel ( ouch $120 worth) and drained it. Washed it out with garden hose real good. The pickup pump and lines and fuel filter on the tank. Installed it and added 3 gal of power service and a gallon of Power service 911. Mixed with 5 gal of fresh fuel. Drove it for a while then added 5 more gallons. Drove it 230 miles then added a full tank. Kept adding Power Service 1 gal per full fuel tank. Drove it another 300 miles then changed both fuel filters. Cut them open and let them dry for a few days. Not one spec of crystal any where on any of either filter. I guess I lucked out. On a side note I did it twice before on my 2011 6.7. That was at 45k miles..Only a qt or so. Just drained the first filter every few miles then changed the filters out while adding lot's of power service for a while. Traded it in at 165k and still running smooth. No issues there. On a side note. Why didn't I just call Ford to come and tow it while it was just in the tank and I hadn't started it at all? Had too many important things to be done the next day and 1 week after and another 1 week after and another 1 week after. I went for it. At that point I didn't care what happed to the truck. Either it was going to run and do that all or frig it. I now have a locking gas cap that should help.
I hate DEF.. We deal with it daily, I spilled some on my pants leg by accident and it burned like acid. I agree it's corrosive as hell and bad for engines.
Mixing diesel and DEF makes a very confused concoction.... The diesel naturally wants to protect and lubricate everything. The DEF, being derived from fertilizer (urea) naturally wants to rust and curode most things it comes in contact with.... We use diesel on all our fertilizer equipment after a good steam cleaning at the end of the season... Takes about 4 gallons to coat everything that fertlizer comes in contact with. Still amazes me that some one though urea would work in an exhaust system.... Curodes bridges, overpasses, even the trucks it's used on... (Hence, why exhaust systems for DEF are all stainless) But hey, what would I know about what fertilizer will do to metal?? I've only used it for 50 years....
He right about every word. I did this precicly. 1HZ Toyota Coaster Motorhome 2000, put AdBlue in ( Diesel Exhuast Fuel) at the service station, drove vehcle 14 kilomters and it stopped. Long nightmare story short it wrecked the injector pump and the engine has be rebiult as it's got serious blowby now. See my channel for heap videos on trying to trouble shoot and fix it. Absolute nightmare stuf should be warning all over the service stations.
@Game Bred Duramax thats why the EPA makes you use DEF and they put all that other crap on diesels, its so you would burn more fuel and breakdown more and burn your trucks up faster
@Game Bred Duramax Me too last winter, Double R Diesel MM3 tuner Ray is the best, 5"cat back straight pipe, CCV and throttle valve delete and yesterday put in a S& B air filter... The truck loves breathing again. :)
Yep, but if you do any maintence research yourself you soon learn that Al Gore's and Obama's blue tec exhaust recycling back into the intake is a lose lose. Brain dead dems tree huggers who want everybody riding the gvernment bus/train. I run one of 6 different hp tunes and 4 different sounds tunes. mostly run +120 HP with 12V sound tune. Truck loves it. When I tow I use a +30 HP tune. @Game Bred Duramax
Hello $10,000 repair bill. Thankfully, my truck stop needing DEF once this roving band of thieves came in the night and stole some stuff out of my truck. I tell you , it was crazy! 😜
thanks for your post I used your cat fuel adapter to run cat filters on my duramax, that was the best improvement to the truck, wow what a difference in performance
Hey Wade this is Jim again with the old 91.56 row under the hood hey listen thanks for doing this video I work with a company that runs diesel equipment I am periodically I got to stop and put DEF in the tank DEF tank and yeah I never knew cause that much damage I just dead but thank you for that information your videos are always great job I like your demeanor you have a good day guy by
I just pumped 33 gallons of gasoline into my LMM at a BP station l, then drove it over 100 miles. It ran like shit at an idle, and a raped ape at highway speeds. I towed my truck home, drained my tank, changed my filters after pumping diesel through my fuel lines, and have zero damage to my truck. As a matter of fact, all my injector balance rates are right on, and I’m running beautiful.
I just did that mistake. Put about 1 liter DEF (AdBlue) into my diesel tank. I was tired and distracted... realised while I was holding the bottle. Luckily it happened in front of the workshop. I didnt know that I shouldnt start the engine, though. I moved the car a few mteres. Workshop guys drained the tank. The following day I changed the fuel filter. Dont see any damage yet but reported situation to the insurance company. I lost nerves on that but hope it all gonna be all right. They really should put a large mark on the bottles and pumps with a clear sign that it´s super dangerous to the engine, if one does a mistake. I didnt realize the danger after I googled it all afterwards. At least Im smarter for the future.
I always liked my old 6.5 mechanical injected Chevy. Burned 5 gallons used cooking oil once due to station being out of diesel fuel. 10 gallons gasoline by accident topped off with diesel and quart of transmission fluid. Never bothered it. Tuff engine. These newer engines cannot take the abuse.
The DEF system is the worse thing they could have ever done to diesels..nothing good comes out from it. It cost more to replace the mess than to delete it!
@@tater0909 and what are those fumes? they are carbon the same stuff we are made out of and the same as all life is made of and the same thing thats in the smoke from the california forest fires. the EPA is just scam agency to make govt all powerful.
@@tater0909 many new trucks especially the UPS trucks i have been around smell like they are burning bleach when they go past. i dont see how that is cleaner than an old diesel that barely smells. just like a lot of cars that stink because of their converters
My Euro 6 BMW Diesel thankfully meets the standard without DEF or Ad Blu as we call it in Europe. Ad Blu is just another thing to detract from the cost saving of owning a diesel.
All depends how much. I put two quarts in. Was on phone talking not paying attention and added it to the tank. Drained fuel water seperator immediately and ran Diesel Kleen 911 in it. Full bottle. Drained seperator 4 more times over next 3 days of heavy driving. Added another bottle of 911. Ran tank and changed fuel filters. Ran seafoam through intake. Not one issue. I dont recommend doin it but if it happens... it doesnt have to be the end.
I have a 1984 Chevy K30/M1008 with the lowly 6.2 diesel. It's a totally mechanical engine that I can fix with a cresent wrench and pump pliers. It's never left me anywhere. LOL
I had an 86 K30/M1031 before this one. Bank's turbo wth a super duty 700R4 behind it. I'd out run 6.5's all day long. The 4.56 gear ratio killed these engines.
funny but not funny.... I actually just put def in the fuel tank by not paying attention and worrying about the load on my truck. Caught it by the time I'd say about a qt and a half went in. The mechanic drained it and two-cycled it but this was after I started it. Didn't know the horror stories of what this could do only being a cdl driver for 3 months. Anyway, the mechanic told me it wasn't a lot and to run it. Ran it about 100 miles today, I told him tomorrow to drop it and clean it. Probably going to lose my job... FUCK DEF
My Mom accidentally did this on her 2016 ram, it cost 10,000. They have their auto insurance through Farm Burou and they covered the whole thing thankfully.
your customer must have emptied those corn squezen jars before he left home, the cap is blue and say DEF only on the cap.. great video super informative.
Good video. This is my second time to watch one of your videos. The first one I got 4 minutes in and had learned nothing, not because I know a lot, but you talked a lot. So I left, glad I stayed for this one.
Question: Did you have issues immediately after putting the DEF in your fuel tank? How much damage was done and what was the fix? My insurance also will cover the repair, but hoping, and praying, that I didn’t put enough DEF into the tank (about a quart or so) to cause long-term damage. If it does, then we’ll figure it out with our Ford dealer. Thanks!
Mine is an 04 dodge with a common rail system. I worked on those from 95 from the injection pump period starting on engines made in the 60s that were still around to the 2014 def emmision systems. When I found out the exhaust gas recirculation set up was going on them in 2001 then the 07 and 10 emmision were comming , being the problems they caused with gas engines and the engineers that acknowledged that a loss of 20 % of the fuel economy was a guarantee due to that with reduced engine life. At the time they had the technology for it but the oils were not up to par they said for commercial purposes. I got mine in 04 when the common rail set up came available on the 5.9 which was similar to the set up on the N14 and I liked that set up.😁
I’ve had my F350 7.3L for 20 yrs now. Never heard of that stuff. Now I have. Googled it. Still not sure what it does. I’m glad I saw the video though. Thanks!
Basically according to modern emission standards , diesel engines produce too much nitrus oxide. In order to fix that a DEF fluid is injected into exhaust , where cemical reaction occurs and NO is broken into individual atoms of oxyegen and nitrogen.
@@OldFarmAcresJoelK. Don't know how your engine uses DEF or whether you are putting it into correct tank, but in my case (MAN truck/living & working in EU) I haven't seen any issues . If you are experiencing issues with your truck , you should probably see the mechanic.
New driver(3 months), paying more attention to paperwork and the load then anything else. Today, I probably pumped about 1 1/2 qts in before catching it. What a horror, hopefully our mechanics can fix it and I didn't do too much damage. They changed the filter and drained some of the tank, adding whatever they added (couldn't tell you what maybe something to flush the water or a lubricant? like I said new to diesel and def) and told me it shouldn't shut down on me so I drove it today. Researched it later on and from the horror stories I see, even the smallest amount can cause massive damage and costs just from turning a key. Tomorrow hopefully they can drop,drain, and clean the tank and flush it. Hopefully god is on my side. I couldn't imagine 50 gallons, how in the hell do you even pull that off when it doesn't take that much to fill a def tank. Were the diesel and def pumps right next to one another and he used the wrong pump as oppose to filling the wrong tank?
That truck does not even have a DEF tank. Small amounts will pass without a problem. Large amounts are catastrophic. Fyi the driver was released from our employment.
@@jbear4910 wow so there wasn't even a def tank. I mean I feel dumb for doing what I did but I have been running and pushing like crazy and telling myself I need to slow down and take a few days vacation where I can work out of my head because before this I was on the truck as a helper for 2 yrs pretty much doing the drivers job... paperwork, planning, securing cargo, loading etc and never take off or use PTO. That's my worry though, I feel like I might lose my job for this... I needed a vacation where I could relax and get focus, not unemployment, sheesh
@@SegoMan please tell me. I recently changed out my CP3 pump from Thoroughbred Diesel along with new belt. I inspected everything while I was in there. All looks good. What are you referring to?
Thanks for the info, very valuable. I have my vauxhall vectra 1.9 cdti on extensive engine repair and is seated for about 6 months with a full tank. Now I'm 100% sure, that I have to take out the fuel, clean the tank and refil it with fresh diesel.
I recently picked up a 2011 ford f350 6.7 and found put that it has a full emissions delete. That would have to have a tune on it since it doesnt have any of the cats or dpf or anything like that anymore correct? And if it does is there any way we can get a tuner and flash our own tune on it or since it has a tune is it going to he locked to that previous tuner? Any info and help is much appreciated.
I go to the DEF pump only for filling my DEF. Never would I buy a box of it simply because it gives your mind something to think about besides pumping def. opening the box, attachment of the spigot - all this can take my one-thing-at-a-time brain focus away lol If I use the pump it’s a separate transaction and I’ve already just fueled up so I’m less likely to undo the green cap. Just my 2 cents on how I do it. My 6.7 f250 is brand new so I’m overly cautious with her lol
WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot Sure will. I’ve heard that because if the bio characteristics. It is difficult to find Bio here in Ohio at least in my area.. I like good old fashioned crude only for my truck!
Just watched a driver put def in his fuel tank and drive off... I wonder how far he'll make it.. I tried to warn him but he didn't really speak English.
Oh man 🙄 I accidentally glugged about 1cup of ad blue into my diesel van before I realised. That was 4 days ago, been hearing a couple noises that are different I just put it down to cold start, oh man I messed up. I'm self employed and need my van daily, it's only 2 years old 😭
2013 ram 6.7 gallon def in my tank /even made home/ just replaced fuel filters and drain fuel tank and .................... no problems ................
Is there any high pressure fuel pump that can be used on the Ford 6.7 besides the CP4.2? Any ideas why Ford is the only manufacturer that continues to use a known problematic pump? Thanks for the video.
About a gallon of DEF was put in my 2016 F350 6.7L and immediately realized the mistake. Vehicle has not been moved, engine has not been started and key has not been installed so no low side fuel pump operation. I have drained most of the tank (siphon) and plan on dropping and cleaning it thoroughly by rinsing with water and detergent. Will wipe it down as much a possible and then dry overnight. Any special considerations for cleaning the fuel sending unit or will wash and rinse be sufficient? Thanks.
How did this work out for you? I had the same exact game plan. Except I wasn’t planning on using a detergent 🤔 I have dropped the tank and drained the 25 gallons and a quart of DEF fluid out, I’ve been wiping all surfaces I can with clean lint free rags(hard to reach the ends on a 48 gallon tank). Then a final wipe with a rag with isopropyl alcohol and then a dry rag before it evaporates. Next I plan on flushing with a garden hose then drain, wipe and tilt it on its side overnight to drain every drop to one side. I plan on dumping fresh diesel on the low side pump or submerging it in a bucket full of diesel not quite sure yet. I’ll change filters and I like the idea the video owner mention of running 3 gallons of fresh diesel on the low side only just not sure where I should disconnect it at to do this?
Cleaning worked great. I did use detergent and wiped and dried thoroughly. I did replace filters, however did not flush lines with diesel. My key was never operated so the low side never pumped any of the contaminated diesel. After reinstalling tank, I filled full with fresh diesel. It will take several cycles to completely fill the lines so be patient. I would say if you did not operate the key following contamination, this will be sufficient. If key was operated, then lines will need to be flushed. Videos show the flushing is accomplished by disconnecting the line at the final filter and flushing into a container. Needless to say I will never make that mistake again!!!!! Good luck.
@@JohnBaggerly yes! Fortunately for me as well I never inserted the key after I made the mistake and I disconnected the batteries to stay on the safe side. I just want to run some fresh clean diesel through the pump since it was submerged in the contaminated diesel just in case there is anything in the pickup.
Happy 4th of July 🇺🇸 everyone! Question: Do new Fords have issues with the fuel system contamination ?? Brother-in-law bought a brand new F350 back 2019. 7-4-2021: The truck has 38K miles and he had issues with the fuel system. Ford claims he has a contaminated fuel system due to “DEF in the gas tank” ??? He swears he has never mixed fuels. I saw the samples of fuel. It’s not crystallized or cloudy, if anything it looks like oil in the fuel. Ford is saying it’s a $13K job to fix (obviously not covered under warranty). He’s not the only person I know that was given the same solution by Ford. Is this some defect with Ford? Is there a way DEF can mix with diesel somewhere in the fuel system similar to how the EGR-coolers fail and allow coolant into the exhaust? Any advise would be greatly appreciated! I’d hate for other to cough up $13k for something Ford should be responsible for.
Okay Thoroughbred Diesel, what about contaminating the DEF? Someone put a gallon jug of windshield washer fluid on top of the shop DEF tank. A driver pulled up and, after years of using the hose and nozzle to fill his DEF tank with the clear DEF, he just grabbed the jug of blue fluid and poured it in. The dealer charged pocket change short of $1,200 to flush the DEF system. Was it really that critical to dismantle and flush the system or did the boss get taken?
Yes. DEF contamination is as critical as fuel contamination. Once you affect the DEF fluids ability to do its job, then your are looking at the possibility of sooting up the DPF which will decrease its life. It would be an expensive replacement.
@@thoroughbreddiesel Swapping out a DPF wasn't the worst job in that shop (unless they were still really hot!) but I always wondered how much the company paid to have them cleaned.
Over the years I have seen people put diesel in gas vehicles, gasoline in diesels, and even one guy was told he needed some gas line anti freeze so he put Dex Cool anti freeze in his fuel tank. Now diesel owners need to watch real close where they put DEF.
Charles Kettering I saw a guy pour a quart of oil in his coolant reservoir. I asked what he was doing and he told me the oil tank was low. Couldn’t believe it so I just walked away.
Here's a real good one , a guy came into Advance Auto parts and said he needed stuff for an oil change. Then went out and promptly dump five quarts of oil in his engine. Thankfully someone say what he did and stop him from trying to start his car.
I knew someone with a Chevy cobalt, they asked me what this strange ticking sound was. 4.5 quarts latter there was no ticking. People these days just gas and go. Most don’t change their oil on a normal basis. Let alone check it.
I had a car in the shop one day and tried to drain the oil nothing came out. The oil was so old it was waxy like grease. The new diesels have such tight tolerances in the high pressure fuel pump they can barely tolerate low sulfur diesel without grenading
Could you do a video of different diesel fuels like B5 or B20 diesel? Also is it bad for older trucks or does it not matter. I accidentally put B20 diesel in my 2001 Cummins, will it damage my truck? Thank you
I got a question say ratio wise it was the other way around 6oz of diesel in a 4 gallon def tank. Is it a huge deal or would that be able to work itself out over time? I’ve heard both ways.
And there's why with a fleet of 28 trucks I have only 3 oil burners..as they died off I went to gas engines. I'm getting 500,000+ miles out new gas engines..and none of the headaches of EPA diesels
I added def to a mason jar of diesel fuel and it separated perfectly. I don’t think it’s necessary to remove the tank. You can drain it several ways including allowing the fuel water separator do the job since def goes straight to the bottom of the tank. My ford has two fuel filters and will remove any grit that may come through. The fuel water separator and filters are there for a reason.
I just bought a new RAM 2021 and got that cheap red thin plastic cap, I was like, what the hell is this. I just paid 90K for a truck and this is what came on it! BS. I also own a F-350. I did not know it was capless at the time. So the factory wants to ship it to the dealer with that plastic cap cover on it but then they expect you to remove it and use it capless??? The factory must not have faith in the capless system, if so why are the shipping it to the dealer with cap on it? Just recently, when I was fueling the truck, I placed it on my on bed and the damn wind blew it behind the truck cab and the bed and I couldn't get it out. Then I had to add DEF and just as the DEF tank fueled up. About a tablespoon of DEF splashed over into the diesel closure flap and I started freaking out because the DEF started slowing draining and disappear before I could get a rag and soak it up! I thought it was going into my fuel tank. I was so pissed off, and thinking why in the hell would they design something like this. In my opinion, there should be a cap on the diesel because you don't want to risk ANY getting into these tanks. I went and bought some water remover and pour it in the tank. I was in the middle of a long road trip on my way back home when this happened pulling my 5th wheel and drove 500 miles in one day, no issues. So assume everything should be fine. So ANY (ie water or DEF) liquid that sits on top of your fuel flap first closure will LEAK down into the filler tube, I hope to GOD that is draining on the ground somewhere. If it's just sitting between the filler tube then the next time you fuel up. You're draining that into your tank. The next time you fuel up add a little diesel on top of the first closure flap and you'll see what I am talking about, it will slow drain.
I put exxon fuel efficient in my 5.9 liter cummins dodge 3500 and it begin to miss on start up and going uphill it would stall out.This is in summer months,would exxon fuel efficient be to thin for warm summer months for this vehicle?
They should make the DEF a triangle opening and the DEF spouts the same. Then you can't stick it into the round Fuel hole. And if someone does, they should take away their license
Just take a fuel line off underneath and turn the fuel pump on through the fuse box. Literally takes 5 minutes. Way to scare people. A little DEF will not hurt the fuel.
I too put it in the wrong hole on occasion. It's best just to play dumb!
Tyler English I’m sure the shop is going to play u dumb 🙃
lol
@@Saltyglass it look to me you didn't understood what he meant .. nothing to do with cars :P
@@athrunzala5337 the usual response is "wrong hole you asshole"
@@thecustommuffler 🤣🤣🤣
DEF, saving the environment, one plastic container at a time-
Turcksmachine and the factories to produce it, and the landfills to hold the containers, and the extra diesel burned during regen, and more diesel fill-ups because of low MPG, and the increased engine wear resulting in shorter vehicle lifespans resulting in more factories needed to build more parts and vehicles.
Absolutely a great idea! :-(
@@gobdeep yes sir excellent analysis
And destroying billions of dollars in parts that make contamination to produce at the same time.
And let's not talk about all the materials that have to be mined out of the earth for electric cars.
Government making extra money 💰 for the cauffers
I think I'm safe I don't own any Def, nor will I ever own a truck that needs it.
Besides I really don't understand why people have a problem with this system. It's simply a fluid that lowers your toxic emissions into enviroment , isn't that a good thing ?
@@karlomoharic3992 no it does more harm than good, don't drink the EPA coolaid.
@@karlomoharic3992 no it destroys your engine
I have an '03 F350 & never even heard of DEF until this video. Did some online reading as I was curious & just want to pass on a thanks for educating me about this. Great video!
Thanks! Glad we educated you about this potentially very costly mistake.
We used to all laugh about exhaust fluid. Now we have it. Quit laughing about blinker fluid. Its next
I literally just did this last week. Got Diesel the day before but he DEF pumps were occupied. The next day after work I stop and gas station on the way home. Since I wasn't getting Diesel and only putting DEF in I left my truck running. While I was putting my credit in I was also on the phone with BASS PRO where they lied to me about work they did on my boat. I was upset and distracted. Ended up putting two and half gallons of DEF into running truck before I realized what I was doing. Shortly later it errored out with "water in fuel". Had truck towed to Chevy dealership. (only 4500 miles on it) I about crapped my pants when quote came back at $16,000. That does not include engine. $5500 parts and 64 hours labor. Here is where my luck turned. Turns out I wasn't cheap when I bought my Comprehensive Policy and ended up being covered by my policy.
Yikes! Glad it may work out with that policy. This mistake can be very very costly. Very easy to do when distracted.
I refuse to purchase a new diesel truck because of the ‘pigpiss ‘ DEF’. The input port should be on the other side of the truck.
Let's see,..the fuel cap is green...the DEF cap is blue...the green cap is 2x the size of the blue one...and the openings are different sizes...I suppose if you;re blind and terminally stupid you could confuse the two. In that case, I don't think putting the DEF on the opposite side of the truck would do anything at all. Maybe if the DEF cap was on Mars and you had to go to a completely different planet that might solve the confusion.
@@buckhorncortez I don't get it either. What really astounds me is we had some kids at work manage to fill the DEF tank with diesel. The three of them had to purchase a funnel to accomplish this and not one had the lightbulb in their head go off🤔
dude he had gas and diesel keys and people still got the wrong fuel in the wrong system
You can still delete them after warranty expires.
Or you can just pay attention on what you’re doing.....imagine that 🤪 The big green refill cap means fricken diesel fuel and the much smaller blue refill cap mean fricken DEF. Oh wait it gets better it even says it on the caps 😱
Thank you for your kind words and when i get a diesel I'll check back.
My wife accidentally put gasoline in my diesel. She drove it home and then realized it. I had it towed to the shop. They wanted $4000 to replace a whole bunch of crap and clean out the tank. I said I can’t afford it right now so I brought it home. I cleaned out the tank, put fresh diesel in it cleared the codes and I haven’t had a problem since that was two years ago
Glad it turned out OK!
Haha. Just bought first diesel. When I get to a pump now I talk to myself as I read and triple check pump colors and labels to myself about what I am about to do, then look at my truck fuel caps and intentionally open the correct cap for what I am about to do, then pray to God about what I am about to do. 😂
Thanks for the straight-up what NOT TO DO vid. Didn’t even think about what would happen when I kick the key to on. Imagine that flatbed truck guy might do that just to make sure the steering wheel wasn’t locked during load/unload. Best to just disconnect the battery to make sure someone else doesn’t mess it up when you’re not looking!! Thanks again Wade!!
Thank god i have an old diesel so i don't have to have that glorified piss in it 😎
Same here 6.5 Detroit !
Ralf Risberg same here brother. Old skool six2 Detroit, and when i went to replace my daily gasser with a diesel pick-up, i knew i was buying a pre-01/01/2007 truck simply to avoid the whole DEF issue.
I'll get the missus to do it while I film her and then post it on the internet.
Amen firstgens rule !! 6 In a row ready to tow
I never owned a diesel before fall of 2018 when I went looking for a diesel to pull a 10,000 + cargo (13,000 +/-) fifth wheel. I didn't want to struggle up hills so decided I definitely needed to go diesel. I researched and researched and talked to diesel owners and decided on a few things, I didn't want anything that took DEF, or anything that had a DPF or overly aggressive EGR, and noted 2006 was the cutoff. I also didn't want a 4x4 because it's rarely needed, added expense and costs MPG. One more consideration was I didn't want a truck that had been molested in anyway. I ended up finding a well maintained 2006 Duramax 6.6 (LBZ w/LLY tune) with some surface rust on the frame and needing some minor repairs and TLC. The truck has 125K on the clock and I'm putting some work into it but at 61 I'm hoping it will last me the rest of my life, I would rather put money into this older truck than buy anything 2007 or newer. The only other diesel I would have considered would have been a 7.3 Powerstroke but those are getting harder and harder to find as well.
DEF works good for waterboarding
It's not called waterboarding if you use diesel
LMAO
"Just there for the free booze" ... best Wade quote of the century. Great information, so glad I have a '02 Cummins, except when we start talking VP44s.
L D Brush I'll take the VP44 on my 2000 over this DEF BS!
L D Brush had a 01 Cummins.....what a nightmare....money after money problem after problems....never again and I’m a dodge guy!!!
Owning a newer Diesel engine is definitely a headache with all emission laws
4:09 nice rip
For those in the UK, DEF is AdBlue.
4:09 are you ok pal?
OMG seriously >_<
I missed it
😂
Great video! BUT, too late for me, as a couple of weeks ago, I added a very small amount of DEF to my fuel tank on my 2018 F250 6.7TD. I made this lame-brain mistake at a fuel station that sells DEF at the pumps. Just not paying attention, I inserted the nozzle into my diesel fuel inlet-which I had just finished filling completely full. I had pumped in maybe a quart of DEF when I realized my mistake and immediately stopped (some of it had splashed out due to the tank being full). I then proceeded to fill my DEF tank. Not knowing how serious this could be, I started my truck and drove home-about 10 miles. By the time I arrived home, my “water in fuel” warning was on. I immediately drained the fuel/water separator under the truck-did that a couple of times. Then, I replaced the water separator filter, and the engine mounted filter (had those two items in my shop). For the next few days, I continued to drain fuel from underneath my truck, until I got down to about a 1/2 tank of fuel. Then, I refilled my truck. I’ve driven many miles in the past couple of weeks, without any issues. Truck starts fast, runs smooth, no further WIF alerts, nothing. So here is my concern-do I have a ticking timebomb that could go off at an point in time? Is there anything I should be doing at this point? My local Ford dealer’s service manager said they see several trucks every year that have this same thing happen, and his recommendation was to continue to drive it, but to know that trouble could still be in my future. One last thing, we use our truck to tow our fifth wheel, and we got several trips on the calendar for this spring, beginning in March. One is about 800 miles away, in April. So, what advice would you give me around “next steps”?? Also, what about the traveling with the fifth wheel? I just saw your UA-cam site and subscribed to it-hopefully I’ll still have this truck for a good long while-we love it! Thanks very much!
Just curious to know what your outcome was. Did u drain your fuel or just top it off? I've got a 2013 and I've got the same situation, very small amount of def added to fuel, drove it 10 miles now water in fuel lights are on. Ive got a quarter tank of fuel but hate to drop tank. If this worked for u, i may try what you did. Thanks in advance
A kid put gasoline put in my Duramax a couple years back at a local full-service station. Luckily for them, I shut it down the second my engine, "coughed", so there was no damage to the system. But it did cost the station $150.00 for towing, $580.00 to drain and clean the system, plus a new filter, another 36 gallons of fuel, and I talked the owner into two additional fill-ups for my inconvenience. The kid got fired for being an idiot. P.S. My Duramax was bought brand new in 2003, and has 93,000 miles on it. Living in N.Y., rust is a problem, so I had it painted, and restored, "body off" a couple of years back. Replaced some of the running gear, all of the lines, the exhaust, etc. I'm 68, so I plan on driving it into my grave!! None of that DEF crap for me.
LOL "full service." I remember the gas stations in Canada were all that way in the 70's and 80's. They must have thought people were too stupid to pump their own fuel. Ok some people are, but this is a simple enough task that anyone can make the mistake, and the full service station people are certainly not going to be less prone to these mistakes of habit, since they do this even more than anyone else.
Good comment but I would humbly recommend to reprocess your idea of driving your truck to the grave. My grandpa passed away back in 2019 and a hearse drove him to the grave. Seek out the face of Jesus Christ and you will find the Way, the Truth & the Life. He will take you to places further than your grave and beyond this life. Amen! I love you man!
I almost threw up when I dumped 3 gallons into my fuel tank two weeks ago. I had to start it for just about 5 seconds so I could put it in neutral and start it down hill to roll in front of my work shop. Well I dropped the full tank of fuel ( ouch $120 worth) and drained it. Washed it out with garden hose real good. The pickup pump and lines and fuel filter on the tank. Installed it and added 3 gal of power service and a gallon of Power service 911. Mixed with 5 gal of fresh fuel. Drove it for a while then added 5 more gallons. Drove it 230 miles then added a full tank. Kept adding Power Service 1 gal per full fuel tank. Drove it another 300 miles then changed both fuel filters. Cut them open and let them dry for a few days. Not one spec of crystal any where on any of either filter. I guess I lucked out.
On a side note I did it twice before on my 2011 6.7. That was at 45k miles..Only a qt or so. Just drained the first filter every few miles then changed the filters out while adding lot's of power service for a while. Traded it in at 165k and still running smooth. No issues there.
On a side note. Why didn't I just call Ford to come and tow it while it was just in the tank and I hadn't started it at all? Had too many important things to be done the next day and 1 week after and another 1 week after and another 1 week after. I went for it. At that point I didn't care what happed to the truck. Either it was going to run and do that all or frig it.
I now have a locking gas cap that should help.
After this happened to me. I put a locking gas cap on my truck just as a safty measure. One extra step required to mess up.
I hate DEF.. We deal with it daily, I spilled some on my pants leg by accident and it burned like acid.
I agree it's corrosive as hell and bad for engines.
Mixing diesel and DEF makes a very confused concoction....
The diesel naturally wants to protect and lubricate everything.
The DEF, being derived from fertilizer (urea) naturally wants to rust and curode most things it comes in contact with....
We use diesel on all our fertilizer equipment after a good steam cleaning at the end of the season... Takes about 4 gallons to coat everything that fertlizer comes in contact with.
Still amazes me that some one though urea would work in an exhaust system.... Curodes bridges, overpasses, even the trucks it's used on... (Hence, why exhaust systems for DEF are all stainless)
But hey, what would I know about what fertilizer will do to metal??
I've only used it for 50 years....
It's all part of the big plan/scheme...
Ever had that galvanized fence post that everyone pissed on when you were kids? Bet it aint there today
@@thecustommuffler exactly...
We can’t afford all this go green bull chit
@@TheREALLibertyOrDeath it's actually worse for the environment, but that don't want people to know that
He right about every word. I did this precicly. 1HZ Toyota Coaster Motorhome 2000, put AdBlue in ( Diesel Exhuast Fuel) at the service station, drove vehcle 14 kilomters and it stopped. Long nightmare story short it wrecked the injector pump and the engine has be rebiult as it's got serious blowby now. See my channel for heap videos on trying to trouble shoot and fix it. Absolute nightmare stuf should be warning all over the service stations.
Sorry to hear that.
Thanks for sharing this. I think most of us know that its not a good mix, but I doubt everyone knew how catastrophic this could be!!!
Delete and never use DEF fluid again
@Game Bred Duramax thats why the EPA makes you use DEF and they put all that other crap on diesels, its so you would burn more fuel and breakdown more and burn your trucks up faster
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@Game Bred Duramax Me too last winter, Double R Diesel MM3 tuner Ray is the best, 5"cat back straight pipe, CCV and throttle valve delete and yesterday put in a S& B air filter... The truck loves breathing again. :)
Yep, but if you do any maintence research yourself you soon learn that Al Gore's and Obama's blue tec exhaust recycling back into the intake is a lose lose. Brain dead dems tree huggers who want everybody riding the gvernment bus/train. I run one of 6 different hp tunes and 4 different sounds tunes. mostly run +120 HP with 12V sound tune. Truck loves it. When I tow I use a +30 HP tune. @Game Bred Duramax
Well said! I’m Deleted and happy😎
Hello $10,000 repair bill. Thankfully, my truck stop needing DEF once this roving band of thieves came in the night and stole some stuff out of my truck. I tell you , it was crazy! 😜
You're probably the same clever guy who claims he lost all of his guns in a boating accident...
thanks for your post I used your cat fuel adapter to run cat filters on my duramax, that was the best improvement to the truck, wow what a difference in performance
Donaldson makes cat filters
Hey Wade this is Jim again with the old 91.56 row under the hood hey listen thanks for doing this video I work with a company that runs diesel equipment I am periodically I got to stop and put DEF in the tank DEF tank and yeah I never knew cause that much damage I just dead but thank you for that information your videos are always great job I like your demeanor you have a good day guy by
Thank you. Glad you learned about the danger with putting DEF in the wrong tank. The world must know!
I just pumped 33 gallons of gasoline into my LMM at a BP station l, then drove it over 100 miles. It ran like shit at an idle, and a raped ape at highway speeds. I towed my truck home, drained my tank, changed my filters after pumping diesel through my fuel lines, and have zero damage to my truck. As a matter of fact, all my injector balance rates are right on, and I’m running beautiful.
I just did that mistake. Put about 1 liter DEF (AdBlue) into my diesel tank. I was tired and distracted... realised while I was holding the bottle. Luckily it happened in front of the workshop. I didnt know that I shouldnt start the engine, though. I moved the car a few mteres. Workshop guys drained the tank. The following day I changed the fuel filter. Dont see any damage yet but reported situation to the insurance company. I lost nerves on that but hope it all gonna be all right. They really should put a large mark on the bottles and pumps with a clear sign that it´s super dangerous to the engine, if one does a mistake. I didnt realize the danger after I googled it all afterwards. At least Im smarter for the future.
Sorry to hear that happened.
I always liked my old 6.5 mechanical injected Chevy. Burned 5 gallons used cooking oil once due to station being out of diesel fuel. 10 gallons gasoline by accident topped off with diesel and quart of transmission fluid. Never bothered it. Tuff engine. These newer engines cannot take the abuse.
The DEF system is the worse thing they could have ever done to diesels..nothing good comes out from it. It cost more to replace the mess than to delete it!
Biology majors don't fix trucks..Technology majors do ..good video wade
Trucks should not even have that crap on them. Mine still does and I hate it. Let the engine breath. And do what it's suppose to.
the EPA wants your trucks to not even run and thats why they put all that fake pollution crap on there
mike cubes yea. They say they don't want us breathing diesel fumes. But the fumes from the def is way worse.
@@tater0909 and what are those fumes? they are carbon the same stuff we are made out of and the same as all life is made of and the same thing thats in the smoke from the california forest fires. the EPA is just scam agency to make govt all powerful.
mike cubes stand behind a diesel that has it. You can smell it
@@tater0909 many new trucks especially the UPS trucks i have been around smell like they are burning bleach when they go past. i dont see how that is cleaner than an old diesel that barely smells. just like a lot of cars that stink because of their converters
All the heavy equipment we have now requires the DEF catalytic exhaust system to meet tier 3 compliance. Nothing but problems with them
Why doesn’t someone make a locking DEF cap? A lot of damage can be caused by putting other stuff in there too!
My Euro 6 BMW Diesel thankfully meets the standard without DEF or Ad Blu as we call it in Europe. Ad Blu is just another thing to detract from the cost saving of owning a diesel.
Happened to a guy at our workplace a couple of montgs ago... F350, ran about 10 minutes then shut down. $31000 CAD to fix it.
Bummer.
Keep the old diesels running and you won't be broke down alongside the road!
All depends how much. I put two quarts in. Was on phone talking not paying attention and added it to the tank. Drained fuel water seperator immediately and ran Diesel Kleen 911 in it. Full bottle. Drained seperator 4 more times over next 3 days of heavy driving. Added another bottle of 911. Ran tank and changed fuel filters. Ran seafoam through intake. Not one issue. I dont recommend doin it but if it happens... it doesnt have to be the end.
Yet another outstanding “Wade Video”! I have an ‘02 Dodge so I don’t need to worry about DEF, but still a very informative video.
You're welcome. Happy to help.
I have a 1984 Chevy K30/M1008 with the lowly 6.2 diesel. It's a totally mechanical engine that I can fix with a cresent wrench and pump pliers. It's never left me anywhere. LOL
You're lucky. I had a 6.2 years ago. That bastard broke down all the time!
I had an 86 K30/M1031 before this one. Bank's turbo wth a super duty 700R4 behind it. I'd out run 6.5's all day long. The 4.56 gear ratio killed these engines.
4:10-4-11 he drank that def🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
*puts def in fuel tank, now the fuel tank is doing regens*
funny but not funny.... I actually just put def in the fuel tank by not paying attention and worrying about the load on my truck. Caught it by the time I'd say about a qt and a half went in. The mechanic drained it and two-cycled it but this was after I started it. Didn't know the horror stories of what this could do only being a cdl driver for 3 months. Anyway, the mechanic told me it wasn't a lot and to run it. Ran it about 100 miles today, I told him tomorrow to drop it and clean it. Probably going to lose my job... FUCK DEF
this is why i love my 5.9 cummins. Less shit to buy and less shit to worry about breaking
My Mom accidentally did this on her 2016 ram, it cost 10,000. They have their auto insurance through Farm Burou and they covered the whole thing thankfully.
oh its ADBLUE..wondered whoel video what is DEF lol..
4:07 LMAO what was that noise???
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your customer must have emptied those corn squezen jars before he left home, the cap is blue and say DEF only on the cap.. great video super informative.
Good video. This is my second time to watch one of your videos. The first one I got 4 minutes in and had learned nothing, not because I know a lot, but you talked a lot. So I left, glad I stayed for this one.
Glad it was helpful!
This happened to me. Very important to know that most insurance companies will cover this. Mine did.
Question: Did you have issues immediately after putting the DEF in your fuel tank? How much damage was done and what was the fix? My insurance also will cover the repair, but hoping, and praying, that I didn’t put enough DEF into the tank (about a quart or so) to cause long-term damage. If it does, then we’ll figure it out with our Ford dealer. Thanks!
Mine did to. Just was honest with them. Could have lied and said crazy ex girlfriends did it to vandalize my truck.
wow. Can you share what you said and what company and type of coverage you have. I have full with Allstate
My friend owns a towing company and about once a year one of his drivers screws up def, gas, diesel. One even pumped the hydraulic tank with fuel
Yeah, LOL... I can totally believe that. Unfortunately, ya just can't fix stupid!
They should make the def whith a 2 inch hose that way it will be safe no to doit
Mine is an 04 dodge with a common rail system. I worked on those from 95 from the injection pump period starting on engines made in the 60s that were still around to the 2014 def emmision systems. When I found out the exhaust gas recirculation set up was going on them in 2001 then the 07 and 10 emmision were comming , being the problems they caused with gas engines and the engineers that acknowledged that a loss of 20 % of the fuel economy was a guarantee due to that with reduced engine life. At the time they had the technology for it but the oils were not up to par they said for commercial purposes. I got mine in 04 when the common rail set up came available on the 5.9 which was similar to the set up on the N14 and I liked that set up.😁
Interesting information, thanks, I thought maybe it would be caught by the water separator, shows what I know.
I’ve had my F350 7.3L for 20 yrs now. Never heard of that stuff. Now I have. Googled it. Still not sure what it does. I’m glad I saw the video though. Thanks!
You're welcome. Happy to help.
7.3 best engine ever made
Basically according to modern emission standards , diesel engines produce too much nitrus oxide. In order to fix that a DEF fluid is injected into exhaust , where cemical reaction occurs and NO is broken into individual atoms of oxyegen and nitrogen.
Karlo, def fluid is the worst thing for diesel engines making hard to breath and getting hot. It's all epa regulations.
@@OldFarmAcresJoelK. Don't know how your engine uses DEF or whether you are putting it into correct tank, but in my case (MAN truck/living & working in EU) I haven't seen any issues . If you are experiencing issues with your truck , you should probably see the mechanic.
@4:09 - I guess having that extra Danish was a bad idea....
Gas station sushi 🍣
We had someone pump 50 gallons of DEF into a diesel tank on a 2010 Mack. He started it and it ain't gonna be cheap.
Oh my!
It's about a $16,000 repair
New driver(3 months), paying more attention to paperwork and the load then anything else. Today, I probably pumped about 1 1/2 qts in before catching it. What a horror, hopefully our mechanics can fix it and I didn't do too much damage. They changed the filter and drained some of the tank, adding whatever they added (couldn't tell you what maybe something to flush the water or a lubricant? like I said new to diesel and def) and told me it shouldn't shut down on me so I drove it today. Researched it later on and from the horror stories I see, even the smallest amount can cause massive damage and costs just from turning a key. Tomorrow hopefully they can drop,drain, and clean the tank and flush it. Hopefully god is on my side. I couldn't imagine 50 gallons, how in the hell do you even pull that off when it doesn't take that much to fill a def tank. Were the diesel and def pumps right next to one another and he used the wrong pump as oppose to filling the wrong tank?
That truck does not even have a DEF tank. Small amounts will pass without a problem. Large amounts are catastrophic. Fyi the driver was released from our employment.
@@jbear4910 wow so there wasn't even a def tank. I mean I feel dumb for doing what I did but I have been running and pushing like crazy and telling myself I need to slow down and take a few days vacation where I can work out of my head because before this I was on the truck as a helper for 2 yrs pretty much doing the drivers job... paperwork, planning, securing cargo, loading etc and never take off or use PTO. That's my worry though, I feel like I might lose my job for this... I needed a vacation where I could relax and get focus, not unemployment, sheesh
Hi Wade, thanks for the useful knowledge!
Thank you. That is why we make the videos.
Thank the diesel gods I have a 2005 Dodge Diesel.
Check those clamps on the injector lines, esp #4..
Ask me how I know this..
@@SegoMan please tell me.
I recently changed out my CP3 pump from Thoroughbred Diesel along with new belt. I inspected everything while I was in there. All looks good.
What are you referring to?
New emissions:
Adds hole right next to the fuel fill
New emissions:
"Good luck"
Thanks for the info, very valuable. I have my vauxhall vectra 1.9 cdti on extensive engine repair and is seated for about 6 months with a full tank. Now I'm 100% sure, that I have to take out the fuel, clean the tank and refil it with fresh diesel.
Good luck!
@@thoroughbreddiesel Is there anything peticular additive etc that would clean out the trace def crystals that remained on parts inside if any ?
I recently picked up a 2011 ford f350 6.7 and found put that it has a full emissions delete. That would have to have a tune on it since it doesnt have any of the cats or dpf or anything like that anymore correct? And if it does is there any way we can get a tuner and flash our own tune on it or since it has a tune is it going to he locked to that previous tuner? Any info and help is much appreciated.
I go to the DEF pump only for filling my DEF. Never would I buy a box of it simply because it gives your mind something to think about besides pumping def. opening the box, attachment of the spigot - all this can take my one-thing-at-a-time brain focus away lol If I use the pump it’s a separate transaction and I’ve already just fueled up so I’m less likely to undo the green cap. Just my 2 cents on how I do it. My 6.7 f250 is brand new so I’m overly cautious with her lol
Personally i would think oh I'm at a pump, it goes in the fuel tank. Where as with the box I have to go buy it, open it, assemble it and then pour it
Neo Craft steer clear of bio diesel as much as possible. These trucks do not like it and neither will your wallet when stuff starts going wrong.
WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot Sure will. I’ve heard that because if the bio characteristics. It is difficult to find Bio here in Ohio at least in my area.. I like good old fashioned crude only for my truck!
I never really understood why they put the DEF filler right next to the fuel filler. Its like they want you to mess up.
Yea me too than again someone put the crap house next to the fun factory on our ladies. I don't complain.
Just watched a driver put def in his fuel tank and drive off... I wonder how far he'll make it..
I tried to warn him but he didn't really speak English.
Oh man 🙄 I accidentally glugged about 1cup of ad blue into my diesel van before I realised. That was 4 days ago, been hearing a couple noises that are different I just put it down to cold start, oh man I messed up. I'm self employed and need my van daily, it's only 2 years old 😭
1 small diesel mistake is buying a 6.7 in the first place. BUT its what kelp the doors of the shop open the first 2 years.
The Duramax is what keeps my friends shop open
@@jondavidbristow9819 i try not to deal with Duramax
@@MadsWorld34 yeah my buddy says he hates them the most
What was that noise at 4:08 to 4:12
hahaha, exactly! I would call it a „Lunch-echo“.
@@jommonox In Louisiana, we call it "hocking a loogy"
Sounds like trying to disguise a fart.
Notjo King I kept replaying it 😂😂 it’s called a frog gargle
luke R I bet Iv watched that 100 times laughing each time
2013 ram 6.7
gallon def in my tank /even made home/ just replaced fuel filters and drain fuel tank and .................... no problems ................
Diesel mechanic at a very large shop where we get our work done tells people to buy the 10 cylinder gas option.
Is there any high pressure fuel pump that can be used on the Ford 6.7 besides the CP4.2? Any ideas why Ford is the only manufacturer that continues to use a known problematic pump? Thanks for the video.
Glad I got a old one.
7 new injectors eh i guess ide just replace all 8
a 'set' of new injectors
About a gallon of DEF was put in my 2016 F350 6.7L and immediately realized the mistake. Vehicle has not been moved, engine has not been started and key has not been installed so no low side fuel pump operation. I have drained most of the tank (siphon) and plan on dropping and cleaning it thoroughly by rinsing with water and detergent. Will wipe it down as much a possible and then dry overnight. Any special considerations for cleaning the fuel sending unit or will wash and rinse be sufficient? Thanks.
Get it clean. All of it. That’s the best advice I can give you. Make sure that you drop the tank and do not skimp on any of the cleaning.
How did this work out for you? I had the same exact game plan. Except I wasn’t planning on using a detergent 🤔
I have dropped the tank and drained the 25 gallons and a quart of DEF fluid out, I’ve been wiping all surfaces I can with clean lint free rags(hard to reach the ends on a 48 gallon tank). Then a final wipe with a rag with isopropyl alcohol and then a dry rag before it evaporates. Next I plan on flushing with a garden hose then drain, wipe and tilt it on its side overnight to drain every drop to one side. I plan on dumping fresh diesel on the low side pump or submerging it in a bucket full of diesel not quite sure yet. I’ll change filters and I like the idea the video owner mention of running 3 gallons of fresh diesel on the low side only just not sure where I should disconnect it at to do this?
Cleaning worked great. I did use detergent and wiped and dried thoroughly. I did replace filters, however did not flush lines with diesel. My key was never operated so the low side never pumped any of the contaminated diesel. After reinstalling tank, I filled full with fresh diesel. It will take several cycles to completely fill the lines so be patient. I would say if you did not operate the key following contamination, this will be sufficient. If key was operated, then lines will need to be flushed. Videos show the flushing is accomplished by disconnecting the line at the final filter and flushing into a container. Needless to say I will never make that mistake again!!!!! Good luck.
@@JohnBaggerly yes! Fortunately for me as well I never inserted the key after I made the mistake and I disconnected the batteries to stay on the safe side. I just want to run some fresh clean diesel through the pump since it was submerged in the contaminated diesel just in case there is anything in the pickup.
"Very expensive" - can you give a ballpark estimate?
Depends. You would have to check with your local mechanic.
2001 Dodge Cummins 4x4 2500 6spd manual, 90k mikes. What’s DEF....
Exactly.
Ima about to do this to that spineless project of mine ....
4:09 what was that?! 😂
Happy 4th of July 🇺🇸 everyone!
Question:
Do new Fords have issues with the fuel system contamination ??
Brother-in-law bought a brand new F350 back 2019.
7-4-2021: The truck has 38K miles and he had issues with the fuel system. Ford claims he has a contaminated fuel system due to “DEF in the gas tank” ??? He swears he has never mixed fuels. I saw the samples of fuel. It’s not crystallized or cloudy, if anything it looks like oil in the fuel.
Ford is saying it’s a $13K job to fix (obviously not covered under warranty).
He’s not the only person I know that was given the same solution by Ford. Is this some defect with Ford? Is there a way DEF can mix with diesel somewhere in the fuel system similar to how the EGR-coolers fail and allow coolant into the exhaust?
Any advise would be greatly appreciated! I’d hate for other to cough up $13k for something Ford should be responsible for.
Okay Thoroughbred Diesel, what about contaminating the DEF? Someone put a gallon jug of windshield washer fluid on top of the shop DEF tank. A driver pulled up and, after years of using the hose and nozzle to fill his DEF tank with the clear DEF, he just grabbed the jug of blue fluid and poured it in. The dealer charged pocket change short of $1,200 to flush the DEF system. Was it really that critical to dismantle and flush the system or did the boss get taken?
Yes. DEF contamination is as critical as fuel contamination. Once you affect the DEF fluids ability to do its job, then your are looking at the possibility of sooting up the DPF which will decrease its life. It would be an expensive replacement.
@@thoroughbreddiesel Swapping out a DPF wasn't the worst job in that shop (unless they were still really hot!) but I always wondered how much the company paid to have them cleaned.
Over the years I have seen people put diesel in gas vehicles, gasoline in diesels, and even one guy was told he needed some gas line anti freeze so he put Dex Cool anti freeze in his fuel tank. Now diesel owners need to watch real close where they put DEF.
Charles Kettering I saw a guy pour a quart of oil in his coolant reservoir. I asked what he was doing and he told me the oil tank was low. Couldn’t believe it so I just walked away.
Here's a real good one , a guy came into Advance Auto parts and said he needed stuff for an oil change. Then went out and promptly dump five quarts of oil in his engine. Thankfully someone say what he did and stop him from trying to start his car.
I knew someone with a Chevy cobalt, they asked me what this strange ticking sound was. 4.5 quarts latter there was no ticking.
People these days just gas and go. Most don’t change their oil on a normal basis. Let alone check it.
I had a car in the shop one day and tried to drain the oil nothing came out. The oil was so old it was waxy like grease. The new diesels have such tight tolerances in the high pressure fuel pump they can barely tolerate low sulfur diesel without grenading
Could you do a video of different diesel fuels like B5 or B20 diesel? Also is it bad for older trucks or does it not matter. I accidentally put B20 diesel in my 2001 Cummins, will it damage my truck? Thank you
I got a question say ratio wise it was the other way around 6oz of diesel in a 4 gallon def tank. Is it a huge deal or would that be able to work itself out over time? I’ve heard both ways.
Both ways its going to be contamination. And even those small amounts will be a bad deal.
And there's why with a fleet of 28 trucks I have only 3 oil burners..as they died off I went to gas engines. I'm getting 500,000+ miles out new gas engines..and none of the headaches of EPA diesels
How do you make money on gas engines ?
You're suprised? It's a Ford owner.
DEF is misable(sp?).....
i guess don't keep your new diesel running while fueling if theres a chance you can slip up until you get enough money to delete it
I added def to a mason jar of diesel fuel and it separated perfectly. I don’t think it’s necessary to remove the tank. You can drain it several ways including allowing the fuel water separator do the job since def goes straight to the bottom of the tank. My ford has two fuel filters and will remove any grit that may come through. The fuel water separator and filters are there for a reason.
I just bought a new RAM 2021 and got that cheap red thin plastic cap, I was like, what the hell is this. I just paid 90K for a truck and this is what came on it! BS. I also own a F-350. I did not know it was capless at the time. So the factory wants to ship it to the dealer with that plastic cap cover on it but then they expect you to remove it and use it capless??? The factory must not have faith in the capless system, if so why are the shipping it to the dealer with cap on it?
Just recently, when I was fueling the truck, I placed it on my on bed and the damn wind blew it behind the truck cab and the bed and I couldn't get it out. Then I had to add DEF and just as the DEF tank fueled up. About a tablespoon of DEF splashed over into the diesel closure flap and I started freaking out because the DEF started slowing draining and disappear before I could get a rag and soak it up! I thought it was going into my fuel tank.
I was so pissed off, and thinking why in the hell would they design something like this. In my opinion, there should be a cap on the diesel because you don't want to risk ANY getting into these tanks. I went and bought some water remover and pour it in the tank. I was in the middle of a long road trip on my way back home when this happened pulling my 5th wheel and drove 500 miles in one day, no issues. So assume everything should be fine.
So ANY (ie water or DEF) liquid that sits on top of your fuel flap first closure will LEAK down into the filler tube, I hope to GOD that is draining on the ground somewhere. If it's just sitting between the filler tube then the next time you fuel up. You're draining that into your tank. The next time you fuel up add a little diesel on top of the first closure flap and you'll see what I am talking about, it will slow drain.
Unfortunately most times this F up will happen at the pump of a gas station
Not surprised it was a ford owner.
...ffuuunnnnyyyyy! But true!
Yes because you are wayyyyyy smarter than any ford owner
I put exxon fuel efficient in my 5.9 liter cummins dodge 3500 and it begin to miss on start up and going uphill it would stall out.This is in summer months,would exxon fuel efficient be to thin for warm summer months for this vehicle?
Fuel is accidentally put into the def tank can you start the vehicle, cause any damage ?
I don’t advise it, there will be a level on contamination there.
If you were to put gas in your diesel and drove it. How long and what signs would you get from this happening?
It would lean out and eventually stop running.
They should make the DEF a triangle opening and the DEF spouts the same. Then you can't stick it into the round Fuel hole.
And if someone does, they should take away their license
Or make them wear that piss water as cologne!
do i have to put bluedef on my diesel truck? im new to diesels
Depends. Check your owner's manual.
Just take a fuel line off underneath and turn the fuel pump on through the fuse box. Literally takes 5 minutes. Way to scare people. A little DEF will not hurt the fuel.
Unfortunately this customer is gonna buy me a boat
Destroys Every Fuel